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Speaker 2: Oh do you want about using?

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Speaker 3: Will be luck.

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Speaker 4: For it's time to bank?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Turkey, Turkey behind us. Hey, it's flat Friday.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in. It's morning Combat Special Holiday mail bag episode

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Speaker 2: here on Wednesday or Friday.

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Speaker 4: Excuse me.

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Speaker 2: November twenty eighth, all of the twenty fives. Hopefully you

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Speaker 2: have been cleared of bail after your assault at Walmart

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Speaker 2: over that big TV, and you're back to hear this

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Speaker 2: program Brian Campbell, Luke Thomas offering you a happy holidays.

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Speaker 4: Here LT.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have fun today. We're gonna hear from the

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Speaker 2: damn people. And if they didn't already know, let me

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Speaker 2: tell them. Today's episode of MK presented by DraftKings and

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Speaker 2: you know DraftKings, the crown, it's yours, it's yours, LT. Well,

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Speaker 2: in the space time continuum, we are recording this full

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Speaker 2: disclosure before Thanksgiving? How was your Turkey day, Luke?

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna guess it was pretty good because I will

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Speaker 4: have gone to my brothers. Who is It's tough to

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Speaker 4: say who's the best cook in the family between him

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Speaker 4: and my sister.

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Speaker 1: Maybe my sister. But if she's one A, he's one B.

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Speaker 4: He's right there, and he's certainly very very very good,

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Speaker 4: and I'll probably have been high the whole time. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's great. That's great.

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Speaker 2: By the way, they don't know how good you cook

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Speaker 2: when it comes to MMA hot takes Luca. Okay, you know,

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Speaker 2: if only they.

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Speaker 4: Get that Walk Friday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, waka waka.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you taking time out of your holiday weekend

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Speaker 2: to deal with us here. We did put out the

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Speaker 2: call to you at Morningcombat at gmail dot com the

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Speaker 2: email so very shortly we will get to all of

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Speaker 2: your mail bag questions in written form and video form.

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Speaker 2: We truly appreciate the effort you guys put in to

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Speaker 2: help make this show fun for you today. Also want

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Speaker 2: to tell you, speaking of Black Friday, it's going on

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Speaker 2: right now. It already started. We're in the midst of it. Yes,

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Speaker 2: the Black Friday Morning Combat merch sale. Who would have

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Speaker 2: thought this was coming? You see those percentages off head

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Speaker 2: to Morningcombat dot shop right now we're cleaning out the inventory.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five percent off t shirts, fifty percent off posters.

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Speaker 2: November twenty sixth to November thirtieth is the sale. If

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Speaker 2: you ever wanted to wear our clothes but said, nah, bra,

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Speaker 2: that price a little bit too high. Today is your chance,

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Speaker 4: The inventory is getting quite thin. This is the chance.

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Speaker 4: This is the window. We're just giving this stuff away

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Speaker 4: for free. So go get it and enjoy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wrap your family in it. It'll be fantastic for you.

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Speaker 2: We'll have a special guests on today's program. Hold on, hey,

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Speaker 2: it's Reggie Jay. Welcome, it's Reggie Jet. Oh wow, we're

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Speaker 2: squirmersh today. Yeah right, buddy, you're good, you're good. All right,

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Speaker 2: there we go. Look, no, no jokes about the end

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Speaker 4: Okay, he's uh, he'll be the first one.

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Speaker 2: He's doing a good enough job making enemies at home

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Speaker 2: and eating the Christmas tree, which you know inevitably makes

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Speaker 1: So that does he eat or do you guys put

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Speaker 2: It's a fake tree that has fake snow on it,

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Speaker 2: Speaking of extra members of our team, let's tell hello

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Speaker 2: to the third member. He's a producer, director, Bong enthusiasts

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Speaker 2: coming at you hot and heavy on Black Friday. Straight

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Speaker 2: out of that Ausse's testy, it is Luke noseda excuse me,

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Speaker 2: Luke Thomas Noceda of the main card minute, how are.

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Speaker 4: You for it?

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Speaker 5: I'm doing great, guys, I'm full from all that Thanksgiving food.

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Speaker 5: Most importantly, we got the prop Quiz Championship out BC

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Speaker 6: It is a banger. I'm assuming we haven't recorded I win.

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Speaker 2: We haven't filmed yet.

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Speaker 4: Did I win?

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Speaker 2: I'm not the betting favorite against Young's.

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Speaker 4: At what a ride? What a journey?

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Speaker 2: I just have to close my door from Reggie.

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Speaker 4: Luke.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you tell people some nice holiday greetings?

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Speaker 1: All right, my daughter made me a card.

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Speaker 2: She would love Reggie Jackson.

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Speaker 4: By the way, my daughter loves cats. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: First question of the Black Friday from our friend Colin.

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Speaker 2: He says, I have a question about quote wins aging well,

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Speaker 1: Upper bound limits?

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Speaker 1: The statute to limitations?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the statute of limitations on both?

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Speaker 5: Kay?

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Speaker 4: If I am acting rapie in the workplace, but no

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Speaker 1: It can hold for a good long while.

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Speaker 4: But like anything, there's limits of this kind of stuff.

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Speaker 7: Yo Luke BC and Long Island Luke. We never know

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Speaker 4: No one would predict that.

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Speaker 7: Armand versus Habib, Yahya, Roriguez versus Auto, Steve Bay versus Fador.

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Speaker 4: Enjoyed the thought experiment.

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Speaker 2: I like this thought experiment, Luke. It's sort of sometimes

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Speaker 4: Probably not.

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Speaker 2: But what happens if you put five foot ten Rocky

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Speaker 2: That changes the equation, although that's not necessarily what this gentleman,

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Speaker 1: I've got one for you. I got one.

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Speaker 4: And the reason why I can say this is because

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for it, Marcus. Let's keep on going down

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Speaker 2: He says, Hey, Luke in BC, got a question for

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Speaker 4: I can tell you the women's divisions have done the

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Speaker 2: But well, straweight has decomposed, but the other I mean,

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Speaker 4: Fila fly Yeah, Flyway, you're right now by the way Way.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you that. And I think all the all

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Speaker 2: And then you have evolution. Luke, you know it's evolution, baby, right?

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Speaker 4: Evolution baby?

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Speaker 2: Yeah therek you thank you very much for that. We

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Speaker 2: have a fellow known as Danger Mouse, a longtime friend

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Speaker 2: of the show from the UK. He's part of the

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Speaker 2: Just Bleed Radio boys and Luke you know we've recovered

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Speaker 2: from that falling out ahead of the London trip. I

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Speaker 2: really don't remember what happened, but I do love me

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Speaker 2: some Danger Mouse. Is he going to show his face?

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Speaker 2: Let's see.

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Speaker 8: I have you pair of wa washed bleeders, Danger Mouse

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Speaker 8: hear from Just Bleed Radio where we're still waiting for

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Speaker 8: that interview. B say, at this rate, we might have

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Speaker 8: to offer your shot to Luke.

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Speaker 6: You work for Luke Now.

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Speaker 8: I really want to act a Dakota Ditch of a question,

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Speaker 8: but I come to think of a good one. So

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Speaker 8: my question is there are now ten male double champs, Randiktua,

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Speaker 8: bj Penn, Joe Sempierre, Daniel Comier, Colin McGregor, Henry sa Hudo,

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Speaker 8: John Jones, Alex Preira, Ilio Tuporia, and of course, most

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Speaker 8: recently is Makachev put the minota.

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Speaker 4: Wor's the best, least impressive? Is the most impressive?

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Speaker 8: However you really want to word it, I don't mind cheers, guys,

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Speaker 8: hopefully talk to you in person. So shout out to

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Speaker 8: all the dunks in the chat room.

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Speaker 2: I do uh just pleaed radio that appearance. I gotta

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Speaker 2: get that done.

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Speaker 1: I'll do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Danger Mouse, thank you for the time put into creating.

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Speaker 4: That is a hard question, and the question, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, look, how do you define how you're going to

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Speaker 2: define this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Go ahead?

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Speaker 2: Is it like who was more impressive in the two

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Speaker 2: weight classes they toppled?

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Speaker 1: So I know I have a way, I have a

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Speaker 1: way to yes. I mean, here's someone brought this up

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Speaker 1: to me.

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Speaker 4: It's like, hey, didn't JDM have like an insanely difficult

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Speaker 4: first title defense? You got to fight the best guy

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Speaker 4: in the goddamn sport, Like that's not easy. And someone

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Speaker 4: had asked me in my live chat like what's another

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Speaker 4: example of one? And I was like, it wasn't the

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Speaker 4: same as that. But for example, JDMS sorry Junior Docentos,

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Speaker 4: jds's first title defense after beating Kane was actually remember

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Speaker 4: because King was really fucked up? Was Kane again? But

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Speaker 4: this time it was completely healthy Kane and he got

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Speaker 4: destroyed as a consequence, Right, So like.

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Speaker 2: What I wanted dead wrong? That didn't JDS defend the

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Speaker 2: belt against Frank Murr first?

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Speaker 1: He might have.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's imagine a world where Kape Alaskaz was the

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Speaker 4: first Either way, you see what I'm saying, Like, evaluate

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Speaker 4: the way in which they became champ, not just by

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Speaker 4: the wind that they got there, but who had beaten

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Speaker 4: the very best guys and and claimed titles in those

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Speaker 4: weight classes by to the extent we for the first question,

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Speaker 4: whose wins have kind of like held up over time?

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Speaker 4: What did it mean to beat those guys both at

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Speaker 4: that moment and in a lasting way? I mean, I

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Speaker 4: would say, like for me, shudos Uh one is probably

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Speaker 4: gonna be a little bit lower on the list.

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Speaker 2: Do you downgrade Connor only as a result of how

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Speaker 2: successful he was? Meaning that he one punched all though?

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Speaker 2: And we never really got to see what that fight

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Speaker 2: would it turned into, and then he forced Eddie off

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Speaker 2: of his wrestling and kind of just you know, Snake

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Speaker 2: charmed him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think so. I think Connor's is gonna

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Speaker 4: be a little bit higher. People are gonna hate this,

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Speaker 4: but I put Potons a little bit lower, not at

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Speaker 4: the bottom, but maybe at the bottom has.

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Speaker 2: Well considering the lack of MMA experience when he came in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but again it's who he beat. How difficult was

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Speaker 4: it to beat the guys that he beat? Yes, obviously difficult,

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Speaker 4: but we're talking about the very best male champ champs

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Speaker 4: number one.

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Speaker 2: Long I look as a great query. Do we discount

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Speaker 2: Daniel Cormier because he never beat John Jones for either

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Speaker 2: of those?

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Speaker 1: Again, it's not about that, it's who did he beat?

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Speaker 1: What do you value that at?

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Speaker 2: Okay, then who is the most impressive two division champion

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Speaker 2: based on this criteria?

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Speaker 4: I mean, one thing you have to consider is the

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Speaker 4: weight that Katre gave up to become heavyweight champion is

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Speaker 4: no bullshit and did it twice.

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Speaker 1: By the way.

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Speaker 4: He was a champion early in the UFC thirties era,

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Speaker 4: which he eventually lost to Josh Barnett and then came

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Speaker 4: back in the UFC sixties and then off retirement after

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Speaker 4: getting slept by Chuck Hoddell back to back, came out

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Speaker 4: of retirement and beat the fuck out of Tim Sylvia,

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Speaker 4: who is a goof but was a gigantic goof, a

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Speaker 4: true ogre. I don't know, I only why don't you

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Speaker 4: pop in here?

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Speaker 2: Even though Bisping was a weak champion, GSP was retired

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Speaker 2: for five years, moved up in wait and won the belt.

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Speaker 1: I got to put that up high, dude, what do

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Speaker 1: you think?

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Speaker 5: I feel like it might be recency biased, but like

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Speaker 5: in today's modern UFC, Islam has to be like top

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Speaker 5: of the list here, just do it in fifty five

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Speaker 5: and one seventy in the year twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 6: Like that's kind of fucking wild.

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Speaker 1: It's up there.

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Speaker 5: I'm looking at a graphic that's missing a few. It's

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Speaker 5: an older graphic and it has a Manda nouonas on it.

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Speaker 5: And I know we're talking men only, so there's a

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Speaker 5: few I'm blanking on right now.

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Speaker 2: But uh, I mean, I know it's it's apples and oranges,

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Speaker 2: but good lord, I mean, who she I mean you know,

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Speaker 2: Mishaute and Chris Cyborg like that's that's pretty uh, But

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Speaker 2: I get it's a different world over there, all right,

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Speaker 2: who's the most impressive mail you're gonna offer? Maybe Islam,

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Speaker 2: I mean has got big names in doing that, and

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Speaker 2: he knocked out in the first round Charles Olivera and

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Speaker 2: Alexander Volkanowski.

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Speaker 4: I mean he was up there, BJ Penn two, I

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Speaker 4: mean BJ Penn beat Matt Hughes and then who did

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Speaker 4: he beat?

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Speaker 1: So he beat a bunch of guys. Obviously.

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Speaker 4: Jens Pulver was an early one of those Diego Sanchez.

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Speaker 2: San Shirk for the wealth.

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Speaker 4: He beat the fuck out of Sean Shirk. So, I

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Speaker 4: mean he by the way that that's a name that

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Speaker 4: modern fans won't know. Beating Sean Shirk was a big deal.

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Speaker 1: Of course.

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Speaker 4: St Peter early p D guy, right, big time. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the muscle shark really was doing,

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Speaker 4: but he certainly looked the part.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't eating for taste, Luke, I'll tell you that

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Speaker 2: it's right.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 4: So also Saint Pierre's I think up there in that

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Speaker 4: middle ground, yeah, I probably put poets on somewhere in

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Speaker 4: the middle ground.

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Speaker 1: I think, and then towards the bottom.

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Speaker 2: So GSP and Randy Cooter in the top four, right.

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Speaker 1: With Islam and who else? Ilia?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Maybe because he finished everybody too. That's the other part.

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Speaker 2: Connor Connor finished all that.

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Speaker 4: Connor's up there too. Yeah, yeah, I want to.

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Speaker 2: Take it away from him because the ease at which

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Speaker 2: he won both of those kind of didn't allow us

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Speaker 2: to see how he would really do against them. But

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Speaker 2: then again, they had their chance and he knocked him out. Looks,

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Speaker 2: so what are you going to do?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, all right, I've given it as much

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Speaker 4: thought as I possibly can. Yeah, Lucas, Lucas done.

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Speaker 2: Let's move on. Here's mad, he says Luke and BC.

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Speaker 2: I've been wondering this one for a while. Kelvin Gasolam

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Speaker 2: is one of my favorite fighters, says Matt. Do you

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Speaker 2: think if he were more disciplined that he could have

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Speaker 2: spent the most of his career at one fifty five?

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Speaker 2: I feel like even at one seventy he carried a

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Speaker 2: bit of loose change. I think this is an automatic

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Speaker 2: one million percent, right, Luke, I mean he.

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Speaker 1: Would have been best suited for a one sixty five division.

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Speaker 2: True, but if he would have had the discipline to

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Speaker 2: keep the body weight down. The idea that he has

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Speaker 2: wrestling an incredible chin and he's a Southpaul who can

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Speaker 2: box and can land hard. Yeah, I mean, we saw

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Speaker 2: the best of him in that Anasanya interim middleweight title bout,

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Speaker 2: but he was an undersized middleweight for the majority of

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Speaker 2: his run, and he clearly lacked the elite level discipline

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Speaker 2: when it came to the constant weight misses, and to

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Speaker 2: the writer's point here, the fact that he has carried

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Speaker 2: loose change at middleweight for a long time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm less convinced by the what

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Speaker 4: ifs on this one. I mean, I think you would

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Speaker 4: have gone further than he did, I mean by in

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Speaker 4: important ways, but.

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Speaker 1: Become champion, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that is a lightweight era that's gonna be

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Speaker 2: tough on him. And how with the with those weight cuts,

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Speaker 2: even with discipline, have taken away from the from the

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Speaker 2: stamina of his game, from his.

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Speaker 1: Or his or his considerable chin.

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Speaker 4: You know, that's that's also a fair point.

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Speaker 2: Those things do need to be considered, all right. Our

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Speaker 2: next thank you Matt for that question. Our next video

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Speaker 2: question comes from Louisville's finest, I believe, unless there's anyone

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Speaker 2: else known as Saul.

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Speaker 9: When I say mk all day, this is what I mean.

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Speaker 9: I have to sit from church way too many for

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Speaker 9: one man. Uh, you can't get this one. No more

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Speaker 9: promotional math practice anyway. What are y'all's favorite seasonal treats?

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Speaker 9: I love the Little Debbie treaty cakes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, first of all, Luke, as we always.

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Speaker 1: That's asane, that's insane.

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Speaker 2: His commitment to the brand is just phenomenal. I love that. Wow.

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Speaker 2: All right, Luke's seasonal treat favorites. You know the pumpkins

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Speaker 2: spy slatte type of things here that only come out.

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Speaker 6: Are you a.

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Speaker 1: Pumpkin beer guy?

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Speaker 2: No, never happened.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 4: I tried to be a pumpkin beer guy. I couldn't

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Speaker 4: do it. There's one beer I've had that was pretty good.

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Speaker 4: This was a long time ago. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: it's even still around. Pump King You ever had that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? See, the thing is when you dial up the aggression,

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Speaker 2: Like I love a high level double ipa that has

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Speaker 2: like some form of citrus taste to it. But there

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Speaker 2: are some where they dial up the aggression of the

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Speaker 2: flavor that they're promoting so much that the spices and

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Speaker 2: sugar are gonna cause me to have a headache much faster.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, do I really want this much, this

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Speaker 2: extreme pumpkin taste? You know what I mean? I like, no,

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I want to point out I was making videos for

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Speaker 4: Espionation in twenty thirteen and twenty fourteen telling people that

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Speaker 4: IPA's double IPAs were the grossest shit on earth, and

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Speaker 4: I have historically oh no, no no, I got insane

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Speaker 4: pushback at the time. Only for ten years later every

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Speaker 4: fucking content creator on ig making the exact same point.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I was ahead of you bitches by over

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Speaker 4: a motherfucking decade.

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Speaker 2: Those are the next generation people who are not growing

661
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: up with the craft beer revolution. Like people don't understand.

662
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: When you and I first started drinking beer, our options

663
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: were American lagger like that was freaking it, okay, gross

664
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: piss the same beer the Long Island Luke drinks purposely

665
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: every weekend, all right. Then we lived through the beginning

666
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: of this craft revolution, and you had different options, and

667
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: you had really good ambers, and you had really good porters,

668
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: and you had this. Then we lived through the absolute

669
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: ipa craft beer. Oh my god, we're drinking gourmet shit,

670
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Treehouse Brewery where we're traveling

671
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: across the country to get one can of Alchemist or

672
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: Pliny the Elder on the West Coast.

673
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 5: Pliny the Elder butt overrated beer alchemist, Teddy Topper, let's

674
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 5: go BC.

675
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 6: I'm with you.

676
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 5: You know, people want to talk shit about your palette

677
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 5: with melons and stuff, but you got a great palette

678
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 5: for beer there, Thank you so much.

679
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: So here's what's happening.

680
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 4: He has the palate of a tather and then drinks

681
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 4: this absolute nonsense. No, here's why I have indicas. There's

682
00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 4: a common denominator there.

683
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: Influencers today are not part of that era. So rightfully

684
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: they're going, Wait, we can legally get weed, or we

685
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: could take great care of ourselves. Why are we gonna,

686
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: you know, hang out.

687
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 4: In the wood. No, it's because it tastes that, and

688
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 4: it's always tasted bad.

689
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: It is it is.

690
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: It is hard on the palate. It is not pleasing

691
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: to don't have.

692
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: A sophisticated enough palate to be able to handle the

693
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 2: craft of it. It's the same thing with certain you know, music, Luke, you.

694
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 6: Know what I mean.

695
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I like all kinds of music.

696
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 4: I don't spend time necessarily like apportioning my free time

697
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 4: to artistically take it in, but I don't necessarily dislike

698
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 4: it in the ways you might imagine.

699
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: All right, I mean we could be different people. You

700
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 2: can't make me like cucumber or pickles, which are cucumber

701
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: and drag Luke, I want.

702
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 4: You to know that, all right, Yeah, you need to

703
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 4: because they're delicious. Also, more to the point, you know,

704
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 4: the older I get, it's like, don't get me wrong,

705
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 4: I have certainly there's a there's a beer locally, and

706
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 4: it might even be an ipa, but it's like, it's pretty,

707
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 4: it's pretty mild relatively speaking, called Raised by Wolves. I

708
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 4: can have one glass of Raised by Wolves and it's

709
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 4: basically fine. It's even quite quite pleasant at times. But

710
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 4: as a general rule, the order I get I feel like,

711
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 4: and Anthony Bordain made this point, He's like, what is

712
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 4: the for example, BC, And it's a different thing than

713
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to enjoy a nice beer versus I'm

714
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 4: trying to pair a beer with a nice thing to eat.

715
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 4: But what I would say is Anthony Bourdain has made

716
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 4: this point, which was, if you're gonna eat, for example,

717
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 4: you're gonna go eat Chinese food, not even just take out,

718
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 4: but like even halfway decent Chinese food. Like what kind

719
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 4: of beer is gonna marry best with that? And the

720
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 4: answer is it's gonna be your standard kind of you know,

721
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 4: ordinary pilsner. Like that's just what it's gonna be. And that,

722
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 4: to me, is a much more refreshing experience overall than

723
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 4: just trying to muddle through triple dogfish head ip a,

724
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 4: fuck your mom, going to assassinate your palette with bullshit

725
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 4: and dog piss?

726
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: All right, you're going too far, but I get it.

727
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I get the premise of what you're saying,

728
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: but let's just not act like lucas sophisticated in every category.

729
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: No, I'm not in every category, but you're just wrong

730
00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: about beer. I'm sorry.

731
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 2: I mean, you know what it comes to, like music,

732
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 2: death metal, hygiene. You know you're sometimes on the outside

733
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: look at it.

734
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 4: Just because I like farting in your mouth does not

735
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 4: make me on hedge.

736
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: Do you want to answer Sowl's question?

737
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 4: Is there some so we do the pumpkin thing? I

738
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 4: don't know about that. So what are some other ones?

739
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: What are like?

740
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: What are like other Okay, so think of food that

741
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: like only comes out Christmas time or whatever, you.

742
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: Know, Easter?

743
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 4: What about Easter? I mean it's just more candy, right, Yeah.

744
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 2: A lot of it is candy based. I mean you

745
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: know when those when those mini eggs start coming out, Luke, Right.

746
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 4: You know, Oh, the Cadbury I do, like, I mean,

747
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 4: I haven't had a Cadbury egg and I don't know

748
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 4: how long, but like when I was a kid, the

749
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 4: Cadbury eggs, those were like the king shit for Halloween

750
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 4: or sorry Easter. I don't drink pumpkin spice lattes, as

751
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 4: I mentioned, I don't drink pumpkin beer really long Island, Luke,

752
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 4: What are we missing? What are some holiday foods and

753
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 4: treats that are relevant here?

754
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 6: If we're talking like this time of year, you gotta

755
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 6: go like cinnamon e stuff, you know.

756
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: Oh, meat pie, you gotta go, meat pie, you gotta go.

757
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 4: I'll do hot chocolate with marshmallows for like Christmas or

758
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 4: like my dog or likes to go get it. It's

759
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 4: a fun little thing that we do.

760
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 2: All right, that's a fair basic one. But yeah, I'm

761
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: trying to think of what else is like specifically tied

762
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 2: to a certain holiday or season that we, for whatever reason,

763
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 2: don't get the other months of the year.

764
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 4: You know, are there July fourth treats because everyone associates

765
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 4: it with like beer, hot dogs, that kind of burger.

766
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I've been eating hot dogs since the beginning.

767
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 9: I don't.

768
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's probably the only time I'll willingly

769
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: drink shitty beer, you know, outside with the can in

770
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: the hand, you know, with all the yeah, you know America, baby. Yeah,

771
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 2: maybe I.

772
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 4: Feel like Christmas has all of them because you have

773
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 4: you have all the cookies you can eat, you have

774
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 4: all of the things you can drink, and the food

775
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 4: and the merriment.

776
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: I feel like that's your that's really the Yeah.

777
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 2: My my grandmother always made chocolate cream pie on Thanksgiving

778
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: and Christmas, and it was you never had it the

779
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: rest of the year, and it was, oh, yeah, that's great,

780
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: love it, love it, Thank you, Mima. R I p

781
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 2: all right, let's go to Jacob. He says, how would

782
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: you match everyone up at one? Here's Jacob's idea. Luke Volkanovski,

783
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 2: Laron Murphy Mulvsar versus usev zlal Diego Lopez versus Yaeir,

784
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 2: al Joe versus Steve Garcia, and bonus question what would

785
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: be the odds for each fight? He's asking us a

786
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: lot here, Luke, how would you match up the top

787
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: end of the UFC featherweight division right now? Would it

788
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: align with what Jacob just laid out?

789
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: All right?

790
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 4: So I'm looking at the matchups here. Vulc versus Larone,

791
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 4: Moulvsar versus the Law, Diego versus Yair. That's a that's

792
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 4: the Diego versus Yaya is a Yes' vote me yes

793
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 4: on that? Aljo versus Steve Garcia.

794
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: I don't hate that.

795
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 2: By the way, they just announced that for the first

796
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: paramount on UFC card in January's there's rumors that it's

797
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: going to be Arnold Allen against Lord Silva, which is

798
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 2: a great.

799
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 4: Fight, Luke, great fight, phenomenal fight.

800
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: It's forty five.

801
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all right.

802
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: I would do I mean whatever we want. I would do.

803
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 4: Vulcan versus Mauvesar.

804
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you do?

805
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: I do Loon?

806
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 4: I do Loroon versus Aljo and versus Steve Garcia.

807
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, what do you think the odds would be.

808
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 2: Let's just talk about the title level Long Island. Look

809
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 2: can chime into Vulk versus Murphy. What are your odds

810
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 2: for that Long Island?

811
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 5: I'd go vulc minus one fifty sorry, minus one seventy

812
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 5: five larone plus one fifty something like that.

813
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: Look, do you give Mostar better odds than he just

814
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 2: gave Laron?

815
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 3: No?

816
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: About the same?

817
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: All right, all right, They're both the same challenge, just

818
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 2: in different wrapping paper ultimately in different styles makes them

819
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 2: not the same at all. Luke, all right, you're saying

820
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: they got the same chance. Okay, that's what they got,

821
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: which is no chance. I don't know. I think Vulk's vulnerable.

822
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if he gets past another title defense.

823
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,479
Speaker 1: Well, if it's Moulsar, I think he could.

824
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 4: If it's a striker, I'm like, you know, that is

825
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 4: also interesting.

826
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: Most Star is like jacked cut ripped in the gym.

827
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 2: He's got to develop a singularly dominant finishing skill, does

828
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: he not?

829
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: Who's this again?

830
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, move Loev.

831
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 4: He's been gone along enough where I'm kind of curious

832
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 4: to see what else he's put together.

833
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: You know, maybe nothing by the.

834
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: Way your boys. Shavkat was on Areial. He said, uh,

835
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 2: end of February, maybe March.

836
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 6: He's ready.

837
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 4: He's ready, Luke, It's it's time.

838
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: The king is back.

839
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 4: All right, there we go.

840
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: We have another video question from someone named Sidney Luke.

841
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: Will this be a male or female?

842
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 4: Do we have male viewers?

843
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: Come on, brother, let's be serious.

844
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 10: Okay, So my question is more of an opinion that

845
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 10: I want to get your guys' take on. I feel

846
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 10: like the issue with specialists in the UFC is that

847
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 10: they don't spend enough time game planning around whatever they're

848
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 10: best at. If you contrast that with Islam or Krabev's

849
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 10: team in general, they know that wrestling is their core,

850
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 10: and they look at different ways to really put that

851
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 10: game plan into place, like using like kicks against JDM

852
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 10: or other types of things that then set up the takedowns.

853
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 10: In addition to them having different types of takedowns, other

854
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 10: people who come into with high bad degrees of wrestling

855
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 10: other things assume the wrestling will be their game plan,

856
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 10: their striking or game plan they're grappling. So I feel

857
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 10: like that that's going to be potetually a problem anytime

858
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 10: you're a special if you don't game plan to implement

859
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 10: your specialty and just assuming will be there. Also, PC,

860
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 10: you have not been live streaming, you have been rambling,

861
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 10: and I've been listening to some new music.

862
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 11: I want to get your opinions on.

863
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 12: So hopefully you come back soon.

864
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 10: Thank you guys.

865
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, bitch, get to work.

866
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, it's about time I get back to work.

867
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: H Sid, Thank you Sid for that question. He looks

868
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: like a guy with good cable management. Luke, But what

869
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: did you think about his question regarding game planning specialism

870
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: all that?

871
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 6: So? I think.

872
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 4: Like bow Nicol might be an example of that too,

873
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 4: right where he's like, you know, the wrestling will just

874
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 4: be there, how much thought you have to put into

875
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 4: the component pieces around it? I think it's a in general,

876
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 4: a very trenchant opser. What I would say, though, is

877
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 4: I would also argue like it's not necessarily a limiting

878
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 4: factor either in certain cases like okay, here's a great example.

879
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 4: Hamsa Chremaiah always is clear he's like, I don't game plan.

880
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 4: I don't game plan at all, And it's because he

881
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 4: has developed such a skill level and an ability over

882
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 4: his peers that he trusts so completely that he doesn't

883
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 4: need to to capture a UFC title. So what I'm

884
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 4: going to say though, is that will eventually catch up

885
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 4: with him. I mean, again, you can be so talented

886
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 4: that you can get away from these other factors. The

887
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 4: one I'm trying to make is he's clearly got enough

888
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 4: skill to win a UFC title without game planning really

889
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 4: around what he's doing. On the other hand, I think

890
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 4: that the reason that Habib and his team have had

891
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 4: the success that they've had is that I look at

892
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 4: their focus on building the composite pieces around their core

893
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 4: identity as a function of having been taught how to

894
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 4: do coaching at a high level. In other words, that

895
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 4: kind of thinking about your game is another kind of

896
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 4: skill that you have to nurture and develop, and they

897
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 4: have by virtue of the circumstances of Abdulma not being there,

898
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 4: Abib getting out taking on that mantle, but having the

899
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 4: influence of like dissecting games, that's its own separate kind

900
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 4: of skill set, and the very best teams and the

901
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 4: very best coaches and the very best fighters to an

902
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 4: extent obviously as well, they kind of developed that over

903
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 4: time and that for me, it can change your upper

904
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 4: bound limit. But what it also can really do is

905
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 4: maintain longevity, whereas hamzat if once the game catches up

906
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 4: a little bit or he begins to wane physically and

907
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 4: you don't really have an identity about what you're going

908
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 4: to do and what you're going to build around that

909
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 4: will catch up with you. I mean again, not in

910
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 4: like some kind of like, oh it will ruin his career. No,

911
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 4: but there might be a loss in his future that

912
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 4: shouldn't have happened but for the fact that he never

913
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 4: really exercised these muscles.

914
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 2: Do you think more people will follow the glover to

915
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 2: share a game plan which is was considered a you know,

916
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 2: elite boxer with a good ground game. When he went

917
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: to the title level against John Jones, we kind of

918
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 2: counted them out after a couple of losses, particularly that

919
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 2: UFC two oh two devastation delivered by Rumble Johnson. Yeah,

920
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: he completely stayed with it, reimagined himself wins a title

921
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: in his early forties, completely built around going back to

922
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: the basics of his bread and butter and making himself

923
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 2: a better and more lights out wrestler and submission expert.

924
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: That's how he built longevity, Luke, and he's also Brazilian

925
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 2: in a maniac in the best ways, and that was

926
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 2: a great chance.

927
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 4: I mean, I think you have to build around what

928
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 4: comes natural to you, rather than one style works the

929
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 4: best or one I mean, there's, of course there's going

930
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 4: to be a shared set of best practices. Yes, but

931
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 4: I don't I don't you know, he's the blueprint for

932
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 4: a different kind of guy maybe, right, you see, like, yeah,

933
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 4: there's there's a he's look, could you really say that

934
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 4: Poetson would be Poeton without Glover? To he might still

935
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 4: be a high achiever, but it's that correct pairing, you

936
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 4: know what I mean?

937
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: This asn't buy that man a truck and motorcycle if

938
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 2: he didn't exactly exactly.

939
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 4: But it may not work for other people too. I mean,

940
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 4: I'm sure Glover's going to be good for a lot

941
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 4: of fighters, But you get the point I'm trying to make.

942
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's a prototype. I'm just saying,

943
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 4: thinking about your game in this way. Do I talk

944
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 4: to Dean Thomas about this once? Like Dean was telling me,

945
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 4: so few fighters really do it. They think about certain

946
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 4: parts of it, you know, certain things that they like

947
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 4: to do for sure, but they don't really think about

948
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 4: building a game and strategies and avenues and routes to

949
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 4: attack and what they look like and what the what

950
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 4: the antecedent causes of this are. They just don't put

951
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 4: in that kind of thoughtful work. The very very best

952
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 4: ones do, like you can imagine, for example, Kayla Harrison,

953
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 4: does you know? And these things lead to it. But

954
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 4: I don't think it's That's the other part too. I

955
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 4: don't think this is just specific to wrestlers. I think

956
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 4: there's a lot of fighters that don't put in nearly

957
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 4: as much thought into game planning as you might imagine.

958
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 2: Sometimes though, it comes with your success level, which equals

959
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 2: your financial ability to become better. I say that because

960
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: I got an interview coming out with Alexandre Pantosia on

961
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 2: the BCX in which, when I specifically talk to him

962
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 2: about this current eight fight win streak, him going from

963
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: you know, sort of a tough out and this division

964
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 2: in his early thirties to becoming arguably the second greatest

965
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: champion in its history, top five pound for pound, and

966
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 2: at thirty five, like he's just you know, becoming this

967
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: complete force. And I was like, two years ago you

968
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: beat Moreno by just outdogging him, and now you're making

969
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 2: it look easy against everybody. And he legitimately said, when

970
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 2: you become a champion, you get more money. You then

971
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 2: can afford to truly level up your game and live

972
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 2: a year round lifestyle that is constantly aimed at putting,

973
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,479
Speaker 2: you know, investing your money back into yourself and that's

974
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 2: how you get to this level. Luke, that's interesting to

975
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 2: think about.

976
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another way to do it.

977
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 2: Sure, he's building longevity on that, you know, in a

978
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 2: lot of ways training, you know, being able to afford

979
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 2: to I ain't at att rubbing elbows with hor Gucci

980
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 2: and Adriano Morich and all those fellas right now.

981
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: That's very true.

982
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 2: Yes, look, we're gonna take a break from the shout

983
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: out and the questions of the fans for a second

984
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: here because I don't know if you watched the Ariel

985
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: Hawane Show this week when MVP promoter Nakiso Baderian came on,

986
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: your best friend huh, proceeded to dunk on the MMA

987
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: media industry me and by proxy, due to last name affiliation,

988
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: accidentally you as well, And I was like, damn, this

989
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: guy a little bit saucy, if not spicy. I know

990
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: who to call. Who you gonna call? I'm calling Quervo?

991
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: All right, this right here? Shots fired? All right, this

992
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 2: is shots Fired, brought to you by Quervo. Now is

993
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 2: a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila

994
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: before we play this. I'm just gonna set up what

995
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: the origin of this beef is. I was ever a

996
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: fan of Paul versus Gervonte Davis. I was outspoken against that,

997
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 2: and when the fight was inevitably canceled, I put out

998
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 2: a tweet that basically said, not enough people talking about

999
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: the fact that the tickets for Jake versus Take were

1000
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 2: not selling like at all, and Nikisa, you know, followed

1001
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: up with a response of that's funny. Here we go

1002
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: to the Arl Hawana show.

1003
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 11: Did tweet yesterday or no, maybe it was a couple

1004
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 11: of days ago something regarding the boxing and MMA media

1005
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 11: and I just wanted to get some clarity. Seeing some

1006
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 11: of the tweets by boxing and MMA media today makes

1007
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 11: you realize a lot what are you referring to here?

1008
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 3: I think like even media members have become social media influencers.

1009
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: They try to put out like you know, statements that

1010
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 3: are not appropriate if you're a real journalist. From my perspective,

1011
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 3: everyone is looking to put out content that engages.

1012
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: And so what happens is like when I.

1013
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 3: When I see a Dan Raphael like, Lol, this can't

1014
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 3: be real, blah blah. It's just like that would never

1015
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 3: be okay in the old world of traditional media, right.

1016
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 3: Or Brian brought what's Brian's last names Campbell Thomas, what's his.

1017
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 11: Name, Brian Campbell? Yes, if you're talking about CBS sports.

1018
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 3: I who was so anti UFC and Dana White in

1019
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 3: the past.

1020
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: Now I see him.

1021
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 3: Taking shots at like m VP or Jake Paul suddenly

1022
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 3: and saying, you know, saying stuff that just is very

1023
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 3: odd to me. So I just think it just shows

1024
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 3: you that true journalism with full integrity is being is

1025
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 3: becoming murky, right because because people really want to be

1026
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 3: heard and seen and feel like they're getting engagement.

1027
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 4: Interesting.

1028
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 2: Interesting there, Hey, Brian Thomas, Uh now a good time

1029
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 2: to enjoy that tequila? That evented tequila? Wish I had some?

1030
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 4: Right now?

1031
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: Let me talk about Brian Campbell Thomas right here and

1032
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 2: what Nickisa said, Look, uh mm, a journalist sports combat

1033
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 2: sports journalism. Journalism is murky right now. It has been

1034
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: and it has continued down that trend. Why a lot

1035
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: of different combinations, A big one being the fact that

1036
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 2: the major UH promotions are you know, so exclusively signing

1037
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 2: these exclusive deals with networks, networks by proxy having their

1038
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: own in a lot of cases, websites that are sort

1039
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: of tied to them could couldn't in a lot of

1040
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: ways change the temperature of the coverage you are providing.

1041
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 2: You mix that with the with the you know, onset

1042
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 2: of the YouTube era social media. You can become a

1043
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 2: quote unquote journalist just by becoming popular, not going through

1044
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 2: the traditional you know, collegiate journalism studies and paying dues

1045
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: up the ladder. I'm obviously closer to you know, the

1046
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,479
Speaker 2: more traditional sense. But I think what Nikisa's upset about

1047
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 2: right there is his belief that I'm suddenly just dunking

1048
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 2: on MVP and him and but the one the reality is, Look,

1049
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if these promoters like, we're never gonna

1050
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: be their friends. They may like us when we give

1051
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 2: coverage that to them feels very positive, and they're always

1052
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 2: inevitably not gonna like us when we give coverage that

1053
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 2: is negative toward them. This isn't me suddenly dunking on MVP.

1054
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 2: This is me saying what I said from the beginning

1055
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 2: that Jake versus Tank was a comical gimmick fight during

1056
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: an era when Jake Paul could really use a real fight.

1057
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 2: Considering we're coming off of the Mike Tyson debacle, of

1058
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 2: which I was very negative about, but he doesn't seemed

1059
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 2: to be referencing that now and the Chavez Junior a bout,

1060
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 2: which I was also very negative about. Could you argue

1061
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 2: back in response to what I said on Twitter and which,

1062
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 2: by the way, I was referencing the actual Ticketmaster seating map,

1063
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 2: which did show that only a third of the arena

1064
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 2: appeared to be full two weeks out. Could you argue

1065
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: and say, like Ariel did during that sequence, that the

1066
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 2: gate doesn't matter, it's the Netflix money.

1067
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 4: You can argue that.

1068
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: Could you argue that they were going to paper the

1069
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 2: building anyway, which happens a lot at the highest level

1070
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: in boxing, to make that crowd full. You can make

1071
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 2: that argument. Could you also make the argument that it

1072
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 2: was two weeks out, if they would have kept that

1073
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 2: fight going, a lot of tickets would come in last minute,

1074
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 2: including if they discounted the prices. Sure, you can do

1075
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 2: all of that. But at the time that fight was

1076
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: canceled because of this civil lawsuit against Jervonte, and suddenly

1077
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 2: the moral police within was like, wait, we can't do

1078
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 2: this fight. And it seems to be the case by

1079
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: the way, it seems like Netflix was sort of like, Okay,

1080
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 2: this is too far. We don't want this. We can't

1081
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: act like there was huge demand for the fight. The

1082
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: ticket sales say something, don't they They do, so it's

1083
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 2: cute to call me out right here.

1084
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, like I've.

1085
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 2: Given MVP positive coverage. I wrote a really nice feature,

1086
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 2: actually two of them in the same week about MVP

1087
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 2: going so aggressively into women's boxing. At the time that

1088
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: I wrote that they were looking to raise money to

1089
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 2: try to become like a real competitor for what Turkey

1090
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 2: was doing. I gave him positive press when it mattered.

1091
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 2: But like media, even though the lines are constantly blurred,

1092
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: are never gonna truly be your friend. Why because Hey,

1093
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: there's people that think that we can't have opinions as media.

1094
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: We're critics. I write editorial columns. We're critics. We have

1095
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 2: these shows and these platforms to give our opinion. Is

1096
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 2: it entertainment, is it cloud chasing?

1097
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 4: Is it a lot of things? Yeah, it's all those

1098
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 4: at one and you know, in one.

1099
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 2: But I think that's a little soft to call out

1100
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: that specific incidence and to take this stance in modern days,

1101
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, he was on a show that

1102
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 2: they don't talk negatively about him. So that's the irony

1103
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 2: in him calling me out for that.

1104
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 4: Look, yeah, I mean, this is just a silly thing

1105
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 4: for him to say. I'm not gonna sit here in

1106
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 4: donklin nick he's a even though we definitely could. But

1107
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 4: what I will say is for his edification and everybody

1108
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 4: else is please understand and that it's the year twenty

1109
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 4: twenty five, it's almost twenty twenty six, and here is

1110
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 4: what you are up against, not just you, me, all

1111
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 4: of us. This is the world that we now live in.

1112
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 4: We have allowed, through a variety of different changes tooth

1113
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 4: technological and then policy choices, to destroy journalism as such. Okay,

1114
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 4: we have we have allowed Google and Facebook or now

1115
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 4: Meta to take away basically all of the ad dollars

1116
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 4: that power to genuine journalism, and what's left in that

1117
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 4: wake or it's just a series of podcasts like this one,

1118
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 4: but also some media outlets that are left. They also

1119
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 4: can't really lean into journalism by virtue of the corporate

1120
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 4: model that requires ad clicks, which requires access. We have

1121
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 4: taken out all of the firewalls and protections, and in

1122
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 4: the baked business model that makes consistent, well paid and

1123
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 4: well schooled and very you know, in what he describes

1124
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 4: as kind of like this halcyon days of journalism that's over.

1125
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 4: It is over, Nikisa. It is never coming back, not

1126
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 4: in sports media, not in political media, nothing. You can

1127
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 4: find some people hanging on to it because our individual

1128
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 4: circumstances or business models and very small amounts that make

1129
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 4: it possible, but as an industry wide practice, it's never

1130
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 4: coming back.

1131
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: So that's the first thing I would say.

1132
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 4: The second thing I would say is the idea that

1133
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 4: opinions that he doesn't like are the subject of people

1134
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 4: not doing their job is the exact inversion of reality.

1135
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 4: Even the Walter Cronkites of their time, again a very

1136
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 4: different business environment as well as a media environment. Even

1137
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 4: those guys had opinions and they pretended to the audience

1138
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 4: that they didn't certainly there are ways in which you

1139
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 4: can couch it and it doesn't cover your work so

1140
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 4: nakedly in a way that gets in the way of it,

1141
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 4: and that that's the argument you can have. But the

1142
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 4: reality is by letting the audience know what our opinions are,

1143
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 4: we are not pretending to be something that we are not.

1144
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 4: By the way, I don't claim the mental journalists bec

1145
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,959
Speaker 4: he can speak for himself, but I certainly don't because

1146
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 4: I don't do journalistic work because also I want to

1147
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 4: pay my morege Welling, I finished it. But the idea

1148
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 4: is like if you want to pay your bills trying

1149
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 4: to do that Nikisa, who is paying people in sports

1150
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 4: media to do journalism? Brother?

1151
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 9: Who is it?

1152
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 4: I would love to know who that is because I

1153
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 4: don't see them. People call themselves that shit, but they

1154
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 4: don't really do that shit. John Nash does journalism, you

1155
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 4: know what pays for that substack subscribers get his opinion,

1156
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 4: and also he gives his opinion. But just be serious, like,

1157
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 4: who's paying for sports journalism? Pablotory gets away with it

1158
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 4: because he's a special case. It doesn't exist, the Kisa,

1159
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 4: it does not exist. So the point I'm trying to

1160
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 4: make is and it's an olive branch.

1161
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: I really am meaning this.

1162
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 4: We are going to give opinions because that is actually

1163
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 4: how you build authenticity with the audience, so they know

1164
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 4: where you're coming from, and then you and they can

1165
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 4: all decide whether or not you like the opinion, whether

1166
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 4: you dislike it, maybe where the colors, the coverage, maybe

1167
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 4: whether it doesn't. We are never going back to the

1168
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 4: era that you imagine that we had because everyone in

1169
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 4: every part of the media ecosystem destroyed it. Welcome to

1170
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 4: the desert of your reality.

1171
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 2: True. And also, if you're gonna be a circus fight

1172
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 2: promoter of what you've done an impeccable job, I'll give

1173
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 2: you a lot of credit. I always do. But if

1174
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 2: you're gonna roll out circus fights like Tyson Paul, like

1175
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 2: Jake Tank, you're gonna.

1176
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 4: Go Let's be honest, like dude, Jake Paul has been

1177
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 4: an enormous success. We've interviewed him a bunch of times.

1178
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 4: He's clearly got a lot going on, and he's clearly proved,

1179
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 4: to excuse me, proved a lot of people wrong, you

1180
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 4: and me included on several occasions, Nikisa as well. These

1181
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 4: are not people who are successful by accident, and I

1182
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 4: recognize as much. But the Mike Tyson fight was complete ass.

1183
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 4: It was terrible to watch. It was a waste of

1184
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 4: everyone's time. It was embarrassing for the sport. And we're

1185
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 4: gonna say as much. And if you don't like that fact,

1186
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 4: or anyone else that doesn't like that fact, tough shit.

1187
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 4: I don't know what to tell you.

1188
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: It was bad.

1189
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 4: And the Javes Junior fight was also bad. It's been

1190
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 4: a lot of bad now to that end BC, to

1191
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 4: that end AJ fight. Okay, I don't know if it

1192
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 4: makes sense on the other direction, but I can certainly

1193
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 4: with draw all the things that I had criticisms about

1194
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 4: about these other two fights. Fine, ill, I will remove that.

1195
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 4: And there's different things you can say about it. But fine,

1196
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 4: But like this idea that like there owed some level

1197
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 4: of neutrality as a way to like minimize criticism for

1198
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 4: turning in bad product. This is twenty twenty five, Like,

1199
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, those days are completely over.

1200
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, And this is twenty twenty five, and that was

1201
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 2: shots fired, brought to you by Cuervo. Now's a good

1202
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 2: time to enjoy it. The tequila that invented tequila. Let's

1203
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 2: keep the fun rolling with the people here, Joseph says, boys,

1204
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 2: let's get some fight stories from your past. If you

1205
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 2: won't do that or don't have any, let's go through

1206
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: the rankings and predict who's champ at the end of

1207
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six for each division. Big kisses. It's Joseph Luke.

1208
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 2: Does he want you to regale stories of fights you

1209
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 2: were in? And if you are unwilling or there aren't any,

1210
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 2: he wants you to predict who will end this calendar year.

1211
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, who will be the champion at the end

1212
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,720
Speaker 2: of next year and each year FC division?

1213
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 4: Who the fuck knows that? I mean, I'm not a fighter, Luke,

1214
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 4: I'm a lover.

1215
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: All right, all right, I'll do some of these. I'll

1216
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: still say morob okay forty five? I don't know, dude, I.

1217
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 2: Mean, let's start at the top one twenty five. Men,

1218
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 2: we're talking about a year and a month from now,

1219
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 2: who's the champion. That's tough, josh Van.

1220
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: It might be josh Van, I mean, or it may

1221
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: not be too like me.

1222
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 5: So again, Pantosia think keeps it, yeah, beats Van defends

1223
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 5: it twice next year?

1224
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 2: Now, come on, Kyoji hor Gucci. Come on, come on,

1225
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 2: come on.

1226
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 6: He ain't beating him. Come on, Gouc doesn't have it.

1227
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 2: Gooch had it on the mats to train him, all right,

1228
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 2: but he didn't teach him everything he knew. Okay, uh,

1229
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 2: you think Morob still Luke, no moving up?

1230
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 4: Just stay with it, Morob, I think keeps it?

1231
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 2: No bro a healthy Yumar beats him head to head.

1232
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 6: Okay, Rob's going to have it in twenty twenty nine.

1233
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 6: Rob is holding on.

1234
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got I I don't, I didn't. I don't

1235
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 4: agree on nomore.

1236
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 2: All right, it's not going to be vulk a feather.

1237
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 2: So who is it gonna be?

1238
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 4: I don't think it's gonna I don't know that one true.

1239
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 4: I truly Movsar Molsar. Maybe, I don't know.

1240
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 2: I don't know who it's going to be. That's a

1241
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 2: wide open division at the moment. Let's move over to lightweight.

1242
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 4: La Leando Luke.

1243
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 2: The legend.

1244
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 4: I'll say l Leanda, Yeah, I'll say el Matador.

1245
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 2: I think it's trending toward Almatador at the moment. It's

1246
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 2: also in that deep ass, that deep ass f division

1247
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 2: of welterweight. It's still trending Islam. I'm the best fighter

1248
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 2: in the world right now.

1249
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna say Chef cut rock Monov for middleweight

1250
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 4: middleweight seemed better?

1251
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 2: No, No for oh, for shot hamza I was saying,

1252
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 2: So you're saying shav cut over is that's an interesting take?

1253
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 4: Okay?

1254
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.

1255
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 2: Do you believe in Hamzad holding it down for another

1256
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 2: year being I.

1257
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 4: Do, yeah, especially since he's not he might compete only

1258
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 4: once next year, in which case, By the way, remember

1259
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 4: how everyone got after Dean Thomas for saying this is

1260
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 4: exactly what's gonna happen, and it's starting to happen, and

1261
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 4: everyone killed him for saying that. I'm like, Dean proved

1262
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 4: everybody right or sorry, we prove himself right.

1263
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you.

1264
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 2: Predict that John Jones would come to Kadirov's son's birthday party, Luke, and.

1265
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 4: Then I don't know if he I don't know if

1266
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 4: you let that one slip, you know?

1267
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 12: All right?

1268
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 9: Uh?

1269
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 2: Do you think Poeton no, he's moving up to heavyweight?

1270
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: I agree, yeah, I agree.

1271
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 2: It might be year's time again, it might be.

1272
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: Just do you think Olberg gets it?

1273
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 12: Nah?

1274
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 4: I don't.

1275
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 2: But if he shows me that. I mean, he'll show

1276
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 2: me something big, but I don't I think that is

1277
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 2: a proto.

1278
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 4: Division still probably probably.

1279
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 2: Heavyweight, Luke heavyweight. This is a heavy question.

1280
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 4: That's a different one. I'm tempted to say Gable Steveson

1281
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 4: to be honest with you, but I won't go that far.

1282
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:00,919
Speaker 13: Hmm.

1283
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 2: John Jones, No no, no, no, no.

1284
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 4: No, no, dude, How funny would it be if it's

1285
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 4: Corteza Costa?

1286
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: How funny would that be?

1287
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 3: That?

1288
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 2: Would Tom Asper always put some respect?

1289
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 12: Then?

1290
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 2: Probably to probably Yeah, women's strawweight Mackenzie Durton, Nah, no,

1291
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 2: Jong Whaley will be the champion at the end of next.

1292
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 4: Year, probably or Tatiano Suarez.

1293
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: True true, uh chef Chenko.

1294
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 6: Now see, she's.

1295
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 4: Starting to get real up there in age, which case,

1296
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 4: I don't know how much longer she's got in her

1297
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 4: and she just.

1298
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely dominated Whaley. Come on, come on, bra all right?

1299
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 4: No, but okay, here's the thing, Like pieces of her

1300
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 4: game are going away each year. Everyone surely notices this, right,

1301
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 4: he's rounding out the other pieces. Look what she did

1302
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 4: to totally fair, but eventually that's going to come to

1303
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 4: a close too. And you've let the other pieces go

1304
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 4: like it's a game that they all play, right, we

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Speaker 4: all know it. I'm just saying like you're losing offense

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Speaker 4: year over year.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I don't know how that one.

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Speaker 2: I changed my welterweight pick to your slab.

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Speaker 4: I'm a slob, luke, that's you.

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Speaker 2: And to close it off, is it gonna be Kayla,

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Speaker 2: Amanda Valentina or Julie Anna.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be Valentina. I think Valentina's gonna

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Speaker 1: go up.

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Speaker 2: You think she beats Kayla.

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Speaker 4: I think Kayla may have one or two left fights

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Speaker 4: total left, you know what I mean? I don't she

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Speaker 4: might even have just one. Like if the next fight's

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Speaker 4: Amanda new Nest, Jim, I just call it to day.

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Speaker 4: That cut, that cut is that cut? Is so what?

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Speaker 4: That's one of the worst cuts I've ever seen. Like

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Speaker 4: no human should be doing what she's doing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give you five seconds to answer this. There's

1323
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Speaker 2: one UFC champion currently under the age of thirty? Who

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Speaker 2: is it?

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Speaker 1: Say it again? There's one UFC champion?

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Speaker 2: Uh yes, isn't that wild?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: One dude. One I would have guessed that TAMAIAV.

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Speaker 4: Was under thirty.

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Speaker 1: No, but he lost all that time, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean?

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Speaker 2: Getting that back? All right, let's get another video loaded

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Speaker 2: up here. This one's from Alexander What.

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Speaker 12: A Beltie in BC. It's your boy romping Bronco. I'm

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Speaker 12: here at my work station where I fix up old

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Speaker 12: film cameras that are almost as washed as you, guys,

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Speaker 12: and I've got two questions for you today. First question,

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01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 12: what's the po box you guys use? I'm sure you've

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Speaker 12: mentioned it at some point.

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Speaker 1: I just forgot.

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Speaker 12: I've got a care package I want to send you, guys,

1342
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Speaker 12: and I'd love to get it there before Christmas if possible.

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Speaker 12: Second question, operating under the assumption that the UFC is

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Speaker 12: actually going to try in twenty twenty six, what are

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01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 12: the first three headlining fights that you want to see?

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Speaker 12: So January, February, and March. I would really like to

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Speaker 12: see Aspinall versus Gone Too in January, if Tom is

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Speaker 12: able to see, I think it'd be great to get

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Speaker 12: the fight going. February'd be really nice to see Ilia

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Speaker 12: fight Arman and your mind which you may vary on this,

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01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 12: but you know, having Ilia fight in the month of

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Speaker 12: Love could be an interesting storyline. For some BC in March,

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01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,959
Speaker 12: Volkanovski fight ev Louev potentially give him an opportunity to retire.

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Speaker 12: I are in Australia. Those are my thoughts. I would

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Speaker 12: love to hear what three fights you think they're going

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Speaker 12: to go with. Thank you again so much for the show.

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01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 12: Can't wait to hear what you guys think.

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Speaker 4: Well, I man, he's got some old ass cameras on there.

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01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 2: Shut out to that guy. What do we call him again?

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Speaker 4: He's thing Bronco. Yeah, Alexander, thank you for that.

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Speaker 1: Put up the PO box address on the screen.

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01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 2: There you go, everyone. If you want to send us

1363
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 2: contraband or vinyl or comic books or just you know,

1364
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 2: anthrax you can read. You can send it for your

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01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 2: audio only listeners.

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Speaker 4: We have a PO box.

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Speaker 2: Send it to Morning Combat fifty five, Gerard Street, g

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Speaker 2: E R ar D PO Box fifty seven, Huntington, New York,

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Speaker 2: one one seven four three. There you go, rewind it,

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Speaker 2: write it down. Thank you.

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Speaker 4: By the way, while the show was going on, I

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Speaker 4: mean started before the show, but while the show was

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Speaker 4: going on, Habib and Connor are still tweeting each other

1374
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 4: like it's still happening.

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Speaker 2: They're still tweeting about uh, Connor.

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01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 4: Accused Habib of rug pulling his fans for some kind

1377
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 4: of like NFT ship.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even sure what he sold, to be honest with.

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Speaker 4: You, and then oh so the papaka yeah, like the

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01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 4: Kabibe went out back at him and that was when

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Speaker 4: the show started.

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Speaker 1: And now Connor has responded to that. So this one

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01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: is kind of ugly.

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Speaker 2: Going back the question right here, question right here, I

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01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 2: don't think he would break uh promise to mother and

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Speaker 2: father except for the fact that he said this. This

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01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 2: grudge match is never over, but the war between them

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01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 2: is never over. Would Connor Habib too, with Habib coming

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Speaker 2: out of retirement at any catchway be the biggest fight

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Speaker 2: in the company history above their first matchup.

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Speaker 1: Not above the first, but he'd be number two.

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 4: Who else would do? Who else?

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01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: I mean who else?

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01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 4: Wow? You know you could bring you could bring Ronda back.

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Speaker 4: You know, imagine you have to play the hits like

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Speaker 4: Ronda Misha.

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Speaker 1: That would be big. Ronda Holly too would be big.

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Speaker 2: That would be very big, old and washed. Did you

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01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 2: see Mayor Eric Adams wants to investigate Dylan danis beat down,

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01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 2: so he's probably gonna go after John pork uh So

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01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 2: to answer Alexander's question, and he made good fight picks

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01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 2: right there. I would go to porious r yuki in

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01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 2: in January, give me aspinall gone to in February and

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01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 2: give me all right this Liam won't fight, he's got Ramadan.

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01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 2: Then give me what's that third match up? Luke, what's

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01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 2: the third sexy match up? What was his third matchup?

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Speaker 1: I forget?

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Speaker 4: I mean, you just think about the most exciting talents

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Speaker 4: in the sports.

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Speaker 1: So it would be.

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Speaker 4: It would be Ilia Arman, for sure. It would be

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Speaker 4: you know, the biggest rivalry. It would be Tom and

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01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 4: they're not gonna do it. I'm just saying it'd be

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01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 4: Tom and or John Jones and Poeton, like one of

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Speaker 4: the two. It would be is I mean this mom

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Speaker 4: against I and Gary would be great.

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Speaker 2: But all these pushing that Usman thing hard hard.

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Speaker 4: I mean again, they might go usbl It's not the

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Speaker 4: one I care about the most? Which one do I

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Speaker 4: care about more? I would give it to Gary over

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Speaker 4: Rusmann just on meritocracy. What's the other one there? Like

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01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 4: hamzav versus who that's the other part too, Like Who's

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Speaker 4: he's a Fluffy Hama versus Fluffy become fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but im Avov deserves it more.

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Speaker 1: Right, he does. He does. Yeah, you're right, he does.

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Speaker 1: That's not as exciting.

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Speaker 4: It's not as exciting.

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Speaker 1: No, no, yeah, but you're right Imovov for sure.

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Speaker 2: All right, it's kind of where we're at. I do hope, obviously,

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Speaker 2: we all hope that they come out guns blazing in

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01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 2: the paramount era, that the removal of that second paywall

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01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 2: allows the sport to grow in this country and and

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Speaker 2: become hot. I mean, I wish they would just identify

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01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 2: four or five rivalries that are going to be hot

1437
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 2: as shit and go back to the old way of

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01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 2: building those up, you know.

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Speaker 1: What I mean? I love that. But we've got Marek

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Speaker 1: Shape in charge.

1441
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, what happens. Let's hear from Tyler Hey LTBC

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01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 2: and the l I L. I've been following MMA for

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01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 2: almost twenty years and saw a prime Bjpenn Rain at

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01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 2: lightweight during his prime. There's a double negative, right, No,

1445
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 2: or maybe it's just too much of that one word?

1446
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 2: Is it crazy to think that a prime BJ and

1447
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 2: his skill set would still be competitive in the modern

1448
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 2: lightweight division at the title level? Also, what is your

1449
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 2: perspective on the impact in role Hawaii has played in

1450
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 2: the history of MMA. I'm born and raised in Hawaii,

1451
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 2: but have been working and living on the East Coast

1452
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 2: the last ten years, six in the DMV area, four

1453
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Speaker 2: the last four in the NYC. So Luke start off

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01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 2: with this, does the BJ Penn of Prime Lightweight Era

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Speaker 2: compete with Taporia, Sarukian, Patty Gai Chee.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, okay, yes, I think he could beat any

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Speaker 1: of them.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he ain't being Taporia right now.

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Speaker 1: He could beat Taporia Prime Prime Bjpen, Yes he could,

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Speaker 1: all right.

1461
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 2: What is your perspective on the impact and role Hawaii

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Speaker 2: has played in the history of m M A.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's this, there's a stat in boxing where

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Speaker 4: it's like, in terms of land area, Puerto Rico has

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01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 4: produced more champions in boxing than any other like similar

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Speaker 4: sized territory anywhere else on Earth. And it just kind

1467
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 4: of tells you that culturally, what can be produced when

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Speaker 4: you know you have some of the right ingredients in place,

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Speaker 4: and you know, again there's there's cultural importance around boxing.

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Speaker 4: Look what they can produce baseball too, obviously with Puerto

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Speaker 4: Rico and other sports. You know, I'm not sure Hawaii's

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Speaker 4: on quite like that level in terms of the amount

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Speaker 4: of champions, but it's got a similar kind of feel

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Speaker 4: where it's this small land mass and there are just

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Speaker 4: a series of circumstances that are created there where fighting

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Speaker 4: takes on a culturally outsized role. And look at the

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Speaker 4: consequences of that. I mean, I might say it's like

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01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 4: down they're bad, Like I'm almost like they're most for

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01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 4: the most part, good about So it could be some

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Speaker 4: consequences to fighting that are bet as a cultural practice.

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Speaker 4: But you just you know, the amount of champions they produced,

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Speaker 4: the amount of talent overall that they produced this tiny,

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Speaker 4: tiny island nation, it is significant. They've had some of

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01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 4: the very best fighters ever and you know guys not

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01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 4: less so Bjpenn. But although there was a lot of

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01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 4: truth to it too, but certainly in the case of Max,

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Speaker 4: Max never left the islands.

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Speaker 1: You know, Max never went.

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Speaker 4: To Aka or at TBC, He never changed coaches, he

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01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:33,560
Speaker 4: never changed inside the island itself, he never changed you know,

1491
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 4: the gym that basically is the one that got him

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Speaker 4: to the dance. Like, how many places are that remotely

1493
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Speaker 4: located like that have that kind of a the ability

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Speaker 4: to produce world class talent in that kind of a way,

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01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 4: you know, as consistently generationally as Hawaii has been able

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01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 4: to do. And there's so many Hawaiian fighters you've just

1497
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 4: never even known about, you know, Ronald machine Gun John

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01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 4: and there used to be Hawaii used to be the

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Speaker 4: epicenter of some of the most exciting fights happening outside

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Speaker 4: the UFC. It was a promotion there called Icon Sport.

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01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 4: It used to be called super Brawl. You see. They

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01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 4: would have super heavyweight fights there and because of the

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01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,560
Speaker 4: Japanese influence, there would be a little bit of connectivity

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01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 4: between that scene and the American scene. Robbie Lawler fought

1505
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 4: at Icon Sport, Jason Mayhan Miller fought at Icon Sport.

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01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 4: I think even Tim Sylvia fought. I mean a bunch

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01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 4: of guys during that era all thought there because Hawaii was.

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01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 1: So preeminive bcly.

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01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 4: Last thing I'd say on this is, you know, there

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01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 4: are good things you can say about the promotional abilities

1511
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 4: with Scott Cocher, and there's criticisms you can make, and

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01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 4: that's true of any promoter. I think one of the

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01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 4: good things that he really understood, and I don't know

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01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 4: how much it meant to modern fans, but Hawaii's pre

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01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 4: eminence and the place that it holds in the sport

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01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 4: is quite legitimate, and he would bring those shows back

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01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 4: to Hawaii, those Bellator shows, which I thought was just

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01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 4: such a grand gesture. It's really a shame UFC has

1519
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 4: never been there and they refused to go because of

1520
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 4: Penny pinching. It's like they've got all the money in

1521
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 4: the world. I just feel like a UFC Hawaii event

1522
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 4: would be such a home run. And it's we're waiting

1523
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 4: for it to happen.

1524
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 2: Max in a BMF title fight the top it it's.

1525
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 1: Can you imagine? Can you imagine?

1526
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1527
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 2: I mean we wouldn't know televin Key Papa, you know,

1528
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 2: Big Papa without without Hawaii's Mma. You know who's the

1529
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 2: other guy we like off that island?

1530
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 6: Luke, Dad's back up on this.

1531
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, That's what I'm talking about. Okay, and the

1532
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 2: Pineapple Princess, Luke, Thank you Hawaii. All right, let's keep

1533
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 2: the fun moving right here, we have Don Agan of

1534
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 2: Irish fame. It sounds like with a video.

1535
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 1: What's up Luke and BC Day one?

1536
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 14: Donk here, Donogan Anderson, I've been there since the bomb shelter.

1537
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 14: I've watched your show longer than I think I've watched

1538
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 14: any other show ever, and that's really fucking depressing.

1539
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 1: My wife doesn't understand it, but I keep coming back

1540
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 1: for more.

1541
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1542
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 14: I got one question for you to wash pieces of shit,

1543
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 14: and I can say that because I'm twenty five, even

1544
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 14: though I look like I'm thirty five. What is your

1545
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 14: worst slash best gas station bathroom experience? Preface that by

1546
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 14: saying my worst is I made fun of a trucker

1547
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:16,719
Speaker 14: for leaving a stall without washing his hands, like fixing

1548
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 14: to leave.

1549
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 2: The bathroom, and he got so mad he threatened to

1550
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 2: shive me.

1551
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 1: What is yours? Thank you all for everything you do.

1552
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:24,839
Speaker 1: Have a great thanksgiving.

1553
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 2: All of my gas station bath ones are like just disgusting.

1554
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 2: You're on vacation driving through the South on the way

1555
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 2: to Florida and you ope, you know, the guy working

1556
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 2: at the grosest gas station ever opens up with the

1557
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 2: lock the grossest bas the reverend. There's literally just you know,

1558
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,640
Speaker 2: four feet of shit dripping down the wall of the

1559
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 2: bathroom and you're just like, how did I get here?

1560
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 2: Or when you get off the highway at like the

1561
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 2: rest stop in New York State and there's a hole

1562
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 2: in the stall wall and you're like nine years old, going,

1563
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 2: you know, dropping a deuce. You turn around, there's like

1564
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,679
Speaker 2: a grown man trucker next to you, just looking at you. Look.

1565
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 2: I've had some of those experiences.

1566
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 1: Could I'll be honest with you.

1567
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 4: Driving is hard on me for my anxiety, and it

1568
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 4: always has been, but it's certainly gotten worse to the power.

1569
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 4: I barely drive hardly at all anymore.

1570
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:15,599
Speaker 2: I love driving long distance. Luke.

1571
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 1: Oh, it's that's due.

1572
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 4: Honestly, if someone says you have to drive seven hours

1573
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 4: or eat a bullet, I'm going to eat a bullet.

1574
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 4: I mean, that's just what it's gonna be. Say goodbye

1575
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 4: to my wife and family, and it's called a day.

1576
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 4: So I don't really have a ton of like pure

1577
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 4: I mean, I've had terrible bathroom experiences, but I don't

1578
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 4: know about how many have been specifically located to the

1579
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 4: gas station or good ones for that matter, either. I

1580
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 4: mean I could tell I went to like a do

1581
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:42,679
Speaker 4: you know Royal Farms? B See, yes, So Royal Farms

1582
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 4: is like the wuah wah of Maryland, and there's waas

1583
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 4: in Maryland as well, but Royal Farms is like a

1584
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 4: Maryland based version of that. I didn't know anything about

1585
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 4: Royal Farms, and I went into one of the bathrooms

1586
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 4: and I couldn't believe how pristine it was. But this

1587
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:58,799
Speaker 4: is not a particularly interesting story. Again, the worst bathroom

1588
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 4: story is independent of gas stations that I've had, have

1589
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 4: all been. It was the Renaissance Festival, which was I

1590
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 4: mean that comode brother that haunts me in my dreams.

1591
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 4: They do abortions in that just doing abortions and civil

1592
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 4: war surgery. Just limbs in there and shot gangreen, blood

1593
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 4: and piss and shit and then on the good side,

1594
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 4: sorry on the The other one was again the one

1595
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 4: in Turkey where the guy was tearing out pages of

1596
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 4: the phone book for one lira to go dump in

1597
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 4: a hole in the ground, and there was flies everywhere,

1598
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:34,640
Speaker 4: landing on you, you know what I mean.

1599
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 2: Driving alone at like midnight on the New Jersey Turnpike

1600
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 2: one time got off at the rest stop. There were

1601
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 2: three pissars and three shitters. I was in the last

1602
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 2: shitter alone at night. Somebody enters. They come all the

1603
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 2: way down to my stall where I'm dropping a deuce,

1604
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 2: and they're like shaking the door trying to get the

1605
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 2: lock open, and I'm like.

1606
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 6: What are you doing?

1607
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 2: The like I gotta go so bad, and I'm like,

1608
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 2: there's o there you could go, and the other ones

1609
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 2: and they just the entire time that I was there

1610
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 2: until I finished, they were trying to get the door open.

1611
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 2: I I there was like, was this a George Michael invite?

1612
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what it was, Luke, but I could

1613
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 2: not have packed up quicker. And it's just like, here,

1614
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 2: have it, get out of it.

1615
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 4: How often have you walked in on someone who was

1616
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 4: just too lazy to lock the stall?

1617
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's happened too. It's enough, John, again, thank you

1618
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 2: for looking thirty five. We're done with this gross question.

1619
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, Joseph Airbank.

1620
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 2: Look, have you ever accepted a gas station proposal on

1621
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 2: the bathroom?

1622
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 3: No?

1623
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:28,679
Speaker 2: All right, that's fine, that's fine.

1624
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 1: Do you think I'm some kind of fucking No.

1625
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 2: I know a dude who drove across the country and

1626
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 2: he had stories at like the you know, Iowa truck

1627
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 2: stops where like truckers have propositioned him for sex.

1628
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 4: But yeah, see this thing, I'm not on the road

1629
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 4: in enough places for me to have stories like this,

1630
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,839
Speaker 4: I mean on my feet in places non gas station related.

1631
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 4: But yeah, I've heard the bathrooms in public bathrooms in

1632
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 4: Japan or you can eat off the floor, but I'm

1633
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 4: not going to try it.

1634
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 2: All right, Gabe is here, He says, sub Luke, BC

1635
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 2: and crew, what are the best foods, fights, movies and

1636
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 2: music to enjoy? While Hi? Thanks y'all.

1637
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 4: Now, BC, this is going to sound like a real

1638
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 4: fucked up answer, I firmly believe. I mean, okay, let's

1639
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 4: let's sort of break this down very very simply. Why

1640
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:19,560
Speaker 4: why do people do drugs.

1641
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 2: To enhance and push anxiety and depression behind them?

1642
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 4: That can be a reason, that's certainly one of them.

1643
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 4: But the basic idea is that euphoria confers experiential benefit, right,

1644
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:32,799
Speaker 4: I mean, this is the basic idea.

1645
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 2: Philosophies, they just want to know what you get.

1646
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm getting to it. I'm getting to it. I'm getting

1647
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 1: to it. I'm getting to it.

1648
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 4: Hold on, this is this fuck you long, Islan Luke,

1649
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 4: because this applies to you mostly, which is the point

1650
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 4: is that it's supposed to. Again, it doesn't always do

1651
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:50,719
Speaker 4: this for not always these reasons. There can be any

1652
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 4: kind of maladaptive behavior around it. But the basic idea

1653
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 4: is that it brings you a degree of temporary, however

1654
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 4: real euphoria. The reason why I bring that up is

1655
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 4: because I don't think there's one genre of movie or

1656
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 4: food or anything like.

1657
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 1: The idea is.

1658
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,799
Speaker 4: In the words of Doug Stanhope, he's talking about alcohol.

1659
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:14,480
Speaker 4: I just take a mundane situation and I pour alcohol

1660
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 4: on top of it, and all of a sudden, it's

1661
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 4: a lot better. It's the same why do people smoke

1662
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 4: we before they go to a concert because it makes

1663
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 4: the concert better, or a movie, or you know, before

1664
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 4: a big feast. It just makes what you're gonna have

1665
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 4: even better. There are caveats to that, but as a

1666
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 4: general rule, you see, I challenge the premise of the

1667
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 4: question because it's almost universal in terms of its application.

1668
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 2: Thank you for wasting our time with that answer that

1669
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,640
Speaker 2: and say musically, I'm definitely going in Radiohead. There is

1670
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 2: just a next level when you're in the eighth row

1671
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:51,760
Speaker 2: of being able to understand the Let's let's pick the

1672
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 2: second greatest album in rock history in Rainbows by Radio

1673
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 2: Ahead and put that as an example. You put the

1674
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 2: headphones on, you have such alternating rhythms going on that

1675
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 2: the only way to really decode and understand and be

1676
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 2: within that is to be deep in that A throw.

1677
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 2: You could argue on movies, Luke, sometimes you just like,

1678
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 2: if I'm on an airplane and I'm sitting in Delta eight,

1679
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, give me Harold and Kumar, give

1680
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 2: me just some slapstick ridiculousness. But at the same time, Luke,

1681
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 2: I've sat in the A throw and saw uncut gems

1682
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 2: at a astronomical level. There's no genre, and it was

1683
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 2: no but that genre whatever you want to call that.

1684
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,600
Speaker 2: And I don't mean like neo noir or whatever. I mean, like,

1685
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 2: you know, the set for that example of a movie.

1686
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 2: The Safti brothers have mastered that ability to take these

1687
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 2: scenes and make them so intense and where you're just like,

1688
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 2: I just want to get off this ride, and then

1689
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 2: you know, five minutes later another scene hits. That is

1690
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 2: a good spot to be in for that type of stuff.

1691
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 4: Lukey, I got high and rewatched I hadn't seen in

1692
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 4: so long. There will be blood, yes, but Daniel day

1693
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 4: lewis holy shit, brother.

1694
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean food wise, you know, whatever gets

1695
01:18:59,280 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 2: you through the night.

1696
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 4: I mean what I mean, long on, Luke, wait in here.

1697
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 4: I'm not saying people don't have their favorites like they

1698
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 4: would experientially, long isl look you there. Yeah, I'm not

1699
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:09,560
Speaker 4: saying people don't have their favorites, or you might like

1700
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 4: a certain thing a little bit more. But my general

1701
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 4: rule is, like the point of doing that not all

1702
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 4: drugs on in all context, but in general, is to

1703
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 4: lift the overall experience. More broadly, I don't think of

1704
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 4: it in terms of like, oh I had to, I'm

1705
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 4: gonna eat Taco bell sober too.

1706
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1707
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you say that, like something like chocolate, you go

1708
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 2: to a whole nother level in the a throw.

1709
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 4: I mean it's like you're but I do that for

1710
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 4: almost anything.

1711
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 5: On I'm gonna say that everything, Like Luke said, it's

1712
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 5: just whatever you're into will be more fun if you're high.

1713
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.

1714
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,599
Speaker 5: But to answer this person's question, I feel like movies

1715
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 5: in particular, like, Okay, there's difference between like BC said,

1716
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 5: watching a movie on an airplane. I know you were

1717
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 5: sitting in a throw, but how about like watching a

1718
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 5: movie in like an imax theater with like the surround

1719
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 5: sound and it's some weird movie where it's like, oh,

1720
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 5: this shit could actually happen and now you're or like

1721
01:19:57,840 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 5: Black Mirror.

1722
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:00,600
Speaker 6: You ever watch Black Mirror high, That's it'll fuck with

1723
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 6: your mind, Like I like.

1724
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 2: Watching Kind of a Woman on weed.

1725
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, the back of a twenty dollar bill.

1726
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 2: Unch of condoms back, I don't know, we didn't use them. No,

1727
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 2: Just to close on that, I have a certain sets

1728
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 2: of genre and music that are so greatly escalated by that,

1729
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 2: you know, Radiohead, Pink Floyd level of production. Uh, certain,

1730
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 2: certain uh progressive.

1731
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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna I can say this listen to Yes

1732
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 4: or or you know, I can say this, you know what,

1733
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 4: you know what album Again, I'm just I mean, who

1734
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:35,640
Speaker 4: gives a fuck about my opinions on hip hop? But

1735
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 4: I'll just say one album that critics like that I

1736
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 4: also liked this year was the New Clips album and

1737
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 4: it was produced by Pharrell and you know it, dude,

1738
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 4: It's like, just look at the critical reviews, like it's

1739
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 4: just a really really well made album. Certainly that's one

1740
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 4: of those albums, and some of the songs lend themselves

1741
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 4: to with maybe like a well not all of them,

1742
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 4: but a more measured kind of pace where you can

1743
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 4: kind of slowly absorb it in ways that you hadn't before.

1744
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 4: And some experiences lend themselves great so I definitely got

1745
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 4: a better ability to hear that one in particular.

1746
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 2: Dude, if I'm gonna listen to Miles Davis, you know,

1747
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 2: bitches brew, I can't handle that.

1748
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 1: Sober You ever listened to outcasts of Clemini?

1749
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 3: Hi?

1750
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:14,560
Speaker 2: I have not.

1751
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:16,919
Speaker 4: That's a fun experience.

1752
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 2: All right, in the interest of time, let's let's let's

1753
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 2: speed through. Here's Josh E with a question.

1754
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 12: Good, I am kay.

1755
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:26,799
Speaker 1: Question for the milebag.

1756
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 12: What's your favorite Australian food? Doesn't even have to be discontinued,

1757
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 12: all right, jeez.

1758
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 2: Let's go right to our Australian food expert, Luke.

1759
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 9: No.

1760
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 1: Look at our fan base. They look just like us.

1761
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,640
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say sausage rolls is probably the best Australian

1762
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 5: like meal.

1763
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 6: I would or like a meat pie.

1764
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:50,719
Speaker 5: But snack wise, I'm a big fan of Smith's potato

1765
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 5: chips or shapes, which are like crackers that come.

1766
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 6: In different flavors.

1767
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 1: Call them shapes.

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01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 6: It's like a brand shapes.

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01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 2: I don't have experience with Australian food outside of beat

1770
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 2: by the French Canadian?

1771
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,639
Speaker 4: How about how about Foster's Australian for beer?

1772
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 6: I do want to eat crow or kangaroo? We should say.

1773
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,639
Speaker 5: For the last Monday's episode when I said that kangaroo

1774
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 5: tastes like chicken, a lot of people shitting on me

1775
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 5: for that.

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01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 6: I want to say, I was like ten years old

1777
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 6: when I tried kangaroo.

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01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 4: I don't fuck remember right, you're dead wrong?

1779
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 2: All right, let's keep it going here. Here's Andrew. Good

1780
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:22,480
Speaker 2: morning you beautiful degenerates. Who are your top five terminators?

1781
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 2: Meaning you can beat them on the scorecards, but no

1782
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 2: matter how bloody and bust it up, they are just

1783
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 2: going to keep coming. Andrew's list is Olegg taktarof, Robbie Lawler,

1784
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 2: Clay Guida, Diego Sanchez Korean zombie.

1785
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 4: Thank you for all you do.

1786
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:42,759
Speaker 2: That's a great list, Luke, I'm gonna add Darren Elkins

1787
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 2: and Nate the Train. In terms of modern zombies.

1788
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you got to add them up there

1789
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 1: for sure.

1790
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:52,600
Speaker 2: The old Barbarina is a zombie who Brian Barberina.

1791
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 4: Yes that that applies. Then don't have to think about

1792
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:00,040
Speaker 4: that because it's.

1793
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 2: Justin Gaichi first and forem. I mean, you can kill

1794
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 2: that zombie.

1795
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 1: But you know, yes, yes, but these are good choices

1796
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 1: by you. Well, now who else?

1797
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 5: First of all, I had Elkins and land We're ready

1798
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 5: to go BC nail those. I wrote Marvin Vittori just

1799
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:16,600
Speaker 5: for his chick, like he'll just keep getting hit in

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01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 5: the head coming.

1801
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 4: Is there a woman who's had like an insanely amazing chin.

1802
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 2: Jess Cat Andrage it just she Yeah, you're right, we

1803
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 2: look at that.

1804
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 1: But yes, yes, even though.

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01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 2: You wanna fight. She got her ass kicked royally for

1806
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 2: three and a half rounds and then would not stop

1807
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 2: coming late and was like kind of landing and hitting

1808
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 2: and hurting. Joanna like she just walks, she walks through everything.

1809
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 4: Luke, that's fair.

1810
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there you go. All right. Uh, speaking of timing,

1811
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 2: I want to tell you about right now because right now,

1812
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 2: if you put the camera on me, it's a good

1813
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 2: time to remember where Tequila's story truly began. Hey, here's

1814
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 2: a history lesson for you. In seventeen ninety five, Crvo

1815
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 2: invented tequila, and since then all Cervo has done is

1816
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 2: stayed true to its roots. Same family same land, same passion,

1817
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 2: so much so that two hundred and thirty years later,

1818
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 2: Quervo is still right here and every pore in every margarita,

1819
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:13,599
Speaker 2: in every celebration. So enjoy the tequila that started it all, Quervo,

1820
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 2: the tequila that invented tequila Proximo Quervo dot com. Please

1821
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 2: drink responsibly. And speaking of Quervo, programming notes Monday, This

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01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 2: coming Monday, what is that? December first, Monday in studio

1823
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 2: eleven am. Eastern Metal Lark Morning Combat UFC three twenty

1824
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 2: three pregame preview LTBC Jed Meshu Numero Dos. We're gonna

1825
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 2: get down with the blanco Luke, if you know what

1826
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:48,679
Speaker 2: I'm saying. We're gonna get after it Quervo style, setting

1827
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 2: the stage for all things UFC three twenty three. Then

1828
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 2: we'll be back on Friday with a remote show. We

1829
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 2: will follow up on what happened in the week on

1830
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 2: three twenty three. We'll get you set up by the

1831
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 2: way for that people. The Sea pay per view coming

1832
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 2: up in San Antonio. Well, I have Chris al Jerry

1833
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 2: on the show as well. So a fun week coming up.

1834
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 2: And don't forget Monday for Quervo. Let's go Jed Bclt.

1835
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 2: We're gonna get after it, Luke, I'm gonna get after it,

1836
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 2: all right, great stuff, all right, let's keep the fun going.

1837
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 2: Here's Whitehead, Whitehead on Black Friday. Let's hear from Whitehead.

1838
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 15: Here at the ESPN offices where Brian Campbell has been

1839
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 15: caught doing whippets in the back, eating out of the sink,

1840
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 15: just generally being a nuisance to the public. Nonetheless, my

1841
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 15: question is would you rather have a Jon John's son

1842
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 15: or a Ronda Rowsi daughter?

1843
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 2: First of all, Whitehead, is he reporting from the Bristol Mothership.

1844
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:47,599
Speaker 2: I don't know this, gentleman, but my reputation there still

1845
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 2: precedes itself. Luke, would you Is he asking would you

1846
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 2: rather have John Jones as a son or Ronda Rowsei

1847
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 2: as a daughters?

1848
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 4: I think that's what he's saying, and I think how

1849
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:57,560
Speaker 4: could the answer be anything other than Ronda Rowsei is

1850
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:01,639
Speaker 4: the choice here? I mean, yeah, got, we are all flawed.

1851
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 4: We are all flawed, but then there are some flaws

1852
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 4: that appear to be much worse than others. I'll take

1853
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 4: Rhonda's flaw.

1854
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 2: It's like, let me be Happa's father.

1855
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 8: In law.

1856
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 2: Let me do that. I like Travis Brown, I never

1857
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 2: had Yeah, yeah, they used to call to your friend.

1858
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:21,720
Speaker 2: But outside of that, I never had an issue with him.

1859
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 1: You know, all right, I'm happy for you BC with what.

1860
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:31,759
Speaker 4: Your friend, your friendship or whatever the fuck.

1861
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 2: Your friend shop. Yes he did bad things.

1862
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 4: Now, no talking to fucking Travis Brown.

1863
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I like, I've never had a problem with

1864
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 2: Travis Brown. It's Honda housey who I'm like, uh yeah,

1865
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:42,680
Speaker 2: all right, there you go.

1866
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:44,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, cool guy for the most part.

1867
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:48,599
Speaker 2: Thank you Whitehead for the question. Let's go over to Barry.

1868
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:51,600
Speaker 2: With twenty twenty five coming to an end, who are

1869
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 2: some fighters you can't see making big moves off the

1870
01:26:55,840 --> 01:27:00,839
Speaker 2: rankings in twenty twenty six? Luke, what about featherweight Steve Garcia.

1871
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 4: I mean, he's already made a big move. This is

1872
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 4: where the movement gets even harder. So I don't know, Okay,

1873
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 4: Josh Van could really be the apex example of this,

1874
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 4: where he goes from you know, outside of the top

1875
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 4: fifteen one year and then to the champion in the next.

1876
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 4: That'd be pretty big. That'd be pretty big. I'm trying

1877
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 4: to think at bantamweight now because Morobs mostly cleaned that out.

1878
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 4: Forty five seems like you got some real movers and

1879
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 4: shakers in there. Fifty five, dude, soar yu can? I

1880
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 4: mean he's kind of been hanging around the top for

1881
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 4: a long time.

1882
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 2: I don't think these guys really fit that question. Isn't

1883
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 2: he really kind of asking who, like maybe right now,

1884
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 2: is at the end of the top fifteen rankings or

1885
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 2: not ranked that we think would just arrive on the scene.

1886
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 4: Are you to me, you know what to facilitate this conversation,

1887
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 4: Let me put the rankings up and I can give

1888
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 4: you a better answer.

1889
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:54,639
Speaker 2: He's saying, who's gonna make big moves up the rankings?

1890
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 2: So it wouldn't necessarily be somebody.

1891
01:27:56,600 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 4: Like David Martinez at one thirty five. That's a guy

1892
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,840
Speaker 4: you should watch. He's very talented. I like his game

1893
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 4: a lot, still got a lot of issues, but I

1894
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 4: look at him and I'm like, he's got big potential.

1895
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:11,759
Speaker 4: B See, I wouldn't ride off jay On Silva at eleven.

1896
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 4: He's got that fight with Arnold Allen coming up. But

1897
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 4: I know he fell short against Diego Lopez, but there's

1898
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 4: still some time to iron that out.

1899
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 2: I think Apriel Bonfieme is moving at Welter Waite, so

1900
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 2: that's a good guy to watch.

1901
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 1: He's yeah, he's on his way. He's on his way.

1902
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 4: But there's a lot of elderly ones in that division.

1903
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 2: We're both gonna say Gable Steveson because he's probably gonna

1904
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 2: make his UFC debut for soon and will be a

1905
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:33,679
Speaker 2: factor quick.

1906
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:35,679
Speaker 4: But what about Vault Walter Walker.

1907
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 1: Walter Walker might move up.

1908
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:40,719
Speaker 4: It's possible there you go, all right.

1909
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 6: What about the guy who just called out Walter Walker,

1910
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 6: Hoke it.

1911
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 4: Tema Clein Fatima. Clein's sitting at twelve. I think she's

1912
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 4: gonna end the year higher than twelve, for sure.

1913
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 2: I agree with you on Josh Hoked. I think he'll

1914
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 2: get a big push. He's got quick hands, he seems

1915
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:00,679
Speaker 2: to be a good athlete. He's craying, but they don't

1916
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 2: they don't mind that, So he's gonna rise there as well.

1917
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 2: Don't don't sleep on Yarslav Amislav, who's coming in here.

1918
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 2: He could end up being a player of I mean,

1919
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:13,560
Speaker 2: the Belacher guys have not done great lately, but he

1920
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 2: could end up being a player in that regard. I mean,

1921
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 2: what about somebody like Macy Barber, who is ranked five,

1922
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 2: but we're like she's forgotten about because of the injuries.

1923
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 4: Uh, and also like she's just inconsistent, like even when

1924
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:30,560
Speaker 4: she performs well, she'll have a health issue or you know.

1925
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 4: And I don't wish it upun her obviously, but it's

1926
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:35,919
Speaker 4: hard to get too excited until it feels like that's resolved.

1927
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 4: All right, and then as long Island looke.

1928
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 2: Let us know Amasov will be making that debut against

1929
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 2: Neil Magne.

1930
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:41,639
Speaker 1: Will love that fight.

1931
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 4: Yep, very good fight.

1932
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 2: We'll see that, all right, Let's keep the fun going.

1933
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 2: Here's our guy Joe at Rundomn Cheeks with a question.

1934
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 4: Hey there, gents, run them cheeks seventeen seventy five.

1935
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 1: Here got our question for you guys.

1936
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 4: If you had to pick an MMA fighter to give

1937
01:29:57,479 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 4: you a tour of their home country, who would it

1938
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 4: be and what would the country be? For example, a

1939
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 4: tour of Scotland from Paul Kraig.

1940
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 1: By the way, you guys, ever heard of jerk heard?

1941
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 2: What did you say?

1942
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 6: Jerk me? Dude?

1943
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 2: He's shout out to Joe by the way. Uh at

1944
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:21,799
Speaker 2: former marine Luke, former marine. He's wearing the bomber jacket

1945
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:23,680
Speaker 2: in the hot tub, which is great getting it.

1946
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 4: I love that jacket, by the way, that jacket's great.

1947
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, well done his question. I would say, I know

1948
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 2: almost nothing about the country Georgia, not the state.

1949
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 4: I know enough about that state.

1950
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 2: I'd like if Morob could show me around Georgia, maybe

1951
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 2: we'll get she loves the gloves out there too to Yeah,

1952
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:47,560
Speaker 2: that would be one answer. I know you're probably not

1953
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:50,759
Speaker 2: going to pick Chamaiev and the Chechena region of Russia,

1954
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 2: especially with John Jones living there now, it's dangerous to

1955
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 2: do that. I mean, what about like Long Island, Luke

1956
01:30:58,840 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 2: wants Johnny Walker.

1957
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 4: I think it was Scotland. Everyone in Scotland did.

1958
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 2: Bang all through Scotland. Where else are we thinking here, Luke?

1959
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 2: Somebody that would be like an ambassador for that country

1960
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 2: and it would be awesome.

1961
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 4: I there, Now, do you have a veritable pick of

1962
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:17,160
Speaker 4: anyone you want? But you could do starting with Rio

1963
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:18,679
Speaker 4: Jose Ado to Brazil.

1964
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1965
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:21,880
Speaker 4: I've never been to Brazil. I really really want to go.

1966
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 2: I'd like to roll with the King of hero if that,

1967
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 2: if that happened, because you know, whenever they send a

1968
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 2: Fighter with UFC cameras abroad. They always send Nina drama

1969
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 2: with them, Like, what if they sent us instead?

1970
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 4: What if they send us to Argentina to hang out

1971
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 4: with Eileen Petiz.

1972
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:38,879
Speaker 2: Dude, that'd be Actually, that's my pick right there, Fiona,

1973
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 2: that's my pick right there. Okay, MK, in your house, Fiona.

1974
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:46,519
Speaker 4: I could have gone to Argentina for Halloween because xFC

1975
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 4: had a showdown there, but I missed last Halloween because

1976
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:51,599
Speaker 4: my dog was dying and I couldn't miss it two

1977
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:53,879
Speaker 4: years in a row, so I had to decline.

1978
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:57,879
Speaker 2: What about Prohatska in the Czech Republic.

1979
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 4: I've been to the Czech Republic, but I certainly be

1980
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 4: a game to go see his village with two guys

1981
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 4: hanging out in his room.

1982
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 2: Drinking in the bars. He'll be a hero. I mean,

1983
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 2: that's these are good picks, Luke.

1984
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would like to see. You know, another place

1985
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:14,719
Speaker 4: I've never been is, you know, Northern Ireland with Paul Hughes.

1986
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 4: I'd love to go to Belfast. I check that place out,

1987
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 4: you know.

1988
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:20,560
Speaker 2: Now, would you take Joshua Van and go to me

1989
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 2: and mar.

1990
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 4: I try to go place a little more stable, Okay, you.

1991
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 1: Know, how about how about Japan with Kyoji Horgucci.

1992
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 4: That'd be sick, you know, all right, all right Japan,

1993
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:37,599
Speaker 4: I just said I'm down for that, alright, you kind

1994
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:38,680
Speaker 4: of Hamden Hall, you went like this, You.

1995
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:42,600
Speaker 2: Went, well, I was trying. I had a Pavel Chevchenko

1996
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:44,880
Speaker 2: joke in the cylinder, but I was like, I don't

1997
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 2: think it's up the bar, so I'll just leave that out. Yeah,

1998
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 2: all right, let's hear from Michael Hey, says big fan

1999
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 2: fellas Luke, what are your top three favorite BC skits

2000
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 2: and bits that he revisits all of the time? Me, see,

2001
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 2: what are your top three lukeisms? Keep up the good work. Look,

2002
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:04,679
Speaker 2: we already know that she eight is your least favorite,

2003
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:07,560
Speaker 2: like men do would be your second least favorite. But

2004
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:10,800
Speaker 2: what are your favorite BC skitz ad bits.

2005
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 4: Like specifically anti shop jokes?

2006
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 2: No, no, just like what recurring jokes or bits or

2007
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 2: whatever that that I do.

2008
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 4: So one of the ones I love and hate the

2009
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:25,720
Speaker 4: most simultaneously is like, you know, study abroad, I just

2010
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:27,560
Speaker 4: met her or whatever some bullshit like that.

2011
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 1: You know, that's one.

2012
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:32,520
Speaker 2: Those are the old guy jokes that populated my childhood.

2013
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 4: Just so people know, right, Yeah, and then I'll say

2014
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 4: something like vitality and you'll imagine that I said vitology,

2015
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:42,679
Speaker 4: and then you'll then you'll shoehorn in, you know, great

2016
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:45,160
Speaker 4: Pearl Jam album, like you'll do that kind of stuff

2017
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:48,800
Speaker 4: like great Pearl Jam album, great Radiohead song, great, you know, yeah,

2018
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 4: kind of thing like that. That's another one you do.

2019
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:52,680
Speaker 4: And then the last one is probably the crying and

2020
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 4: masturbating you do at the bus stop.

2021
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 2: That's really okay, that makes no sense. Uh, look, yeah,

2022
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 2: thank you, Long Island. Look, let's give Luke some flowers here.

2023
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 2: I mean, he's got some good bits here, you know

2024
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 2: what I mean? The uh, what do you think about

2025
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 2: him sending me the the three am flatulence over the

2026
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 2: audio text?

2027
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:12,400
Speaker 6: No? I saw in Luke's live chat.

2028
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 5: Someone was like, oh, can we add Luke's fucking flatuance

2029
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 5: to the MKA sound on board?

2030
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 6: And I was like, absolutely, I wrote in your chat Luke.

2031
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 6: I was like absolutely not.

2032
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:23,200
Speaker 4: I'm not out of that.

2033
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:27,559
Speaker 2: But I just like when Luke uses just like random

2034
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:29,760
Speaker 2: big words that just don't make sense, and it's just.

2035
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 1: Kind of like don't make sense to a non reader.

2036
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:34,800
Speaker 2: Perhaps, Yeah, that's that's one of my favorite bits, to

2037
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:36,680
Speaker 2: be quite quite candid with you.

2038
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's trying to make is the upper bound limits?

2039
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 4: Uh, You're I get a lot of shit for your

2040
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 4: mileage may vary too, Yes there, what's that word you? Oh?

2041
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 2: The temerity? Tamarity will always be my favorite.

2042
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:50,720
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas bitch in totality.

2043
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:53,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, how tamaar of me to bring that up. All right,

2044
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 2: let's keep the fun going here, Carl has a video

2045
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:56,960
Speaker 2: for us.

2046
01:34:59,120 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 1: Hey, that one.

2047
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 13: Carl tuning in here from a very cold northeast of England.

2048
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 13: First and foremost, I want to say a big thank

2049
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:07,599
Speaker 13: you to the job that Luke and Brian have done

2050
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:10,280
Speaker 13: over these past six years. I've followed more in combat

2051
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 13: pretty much since day one, so the opportunity to be

2052
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:15,600
Speaker 13: part of the Thanksgiving Q and A is one I

2053
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 13: would really appreciate. With that being said, my question is this,

2054
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 13: if you were to put prime Ronda Rousey in the

2055
01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:26,600
Speaker 13: modern women's bantamweight division, how highly do you think she

2056
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 13: would be racked? I personally think that the current version

2057
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 13: of the division hasn't evolved all that much, and I

2058
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:36,720
Speaker 13: still think Ronda had the traits to still challenge a

2059
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:39,600
Speaker 13: lot of the people in that top five, someone like

2060
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 13: a Juliana Painnier of a kel Pennington that kind of ILK.

2061
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:45,639
Speaker 13: I'm going to put that to you guys once again.

2062
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 13: I want to say thank you so much for having

2063
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 13: me on and a happy Thanksgiving to everyone from over

2064
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 13: here in the UK.

2065
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:58,679
Speaker 2: Dude chout to Carl first of all, badass Hando Bisping

2066
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:01,679
Speaker 2: two poster behind him. I mean, thank you for showing

2067
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 2: us the lover right there. I also think that's a

2068
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:06,599
Speaker 2: good question. So Luke, he's saying prime Randa, so before

2069
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 2: the chin and you know her self reported c issues

2070
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:15,840
Speaker 2: have really taken over maybe short of Amanda and Kayla.

2071
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:18,680
Speaker 2: Do you think prime Ronda is still a problem for

2072
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 2: everyone thirty five or out there today?

2073
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:23,120
Speaker 4: So let's pull up the rankings because I actually feel

2074
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:24,760
Speaker 4: like she would still be highly ranked me be see.

2075
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:26,160
Speaker 4: I mean one thing you have to remember. This may

2076
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:31,559
Speaker 4: not sound right, but it's true. Everyone's like, oh, Ronda

2077
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 4: fell apart so quick.

2078
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 1: But one thing that I've.

2079
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:36,719
Speaker 4: Because she had two losses and then just left the sport,

2080
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:39,640
Speaker 4: right sure, But one thing that I feel like the

2081
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:42,880
Speaker 4: home fight it kind of exposed and you know what

2082
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:44,679
Speaker 4: was true in her career was you got to remember,

2083
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:47,640
Speaker 4: like Ronda was not as good at fighting as some

2084
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:50,799
Speaker 4: of the other women, but was a a plus level athlete.

2085
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 4: I talked to DC about this once. He was like,

2086
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:54,559
Speaker 4: you know, she was a lifelong athlete, just a very

2087
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 4: different kind of person. When they're internationally competitive, you know,

2088
01:36:57,560 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 4: from a very very young age, they're just they could

2089
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:01,960
Speaker 4: do much more with their body and they're much more capable.

2090
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 4: And that's really true. And she had this aggressive style

2091
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 4: of submissions, right you see where she would clinch up

2092
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 4: with you, throw you, and then she's immediately in transition

2093
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 4: launching into a submission that is still going to get

2094
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 4: you a bunch of wins in the modern women's one

2095
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty five pound division, Like, can it take

2096
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 4: her all the way to where it took her before

2097
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 4: BC if we were starting fresh, No, I don't know

2098
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:26,559
Speaker 4: that it would necessarily, but it would go very far.

2099
01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 4: So here's the top ten currently in that division BC,

2100
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 4: Miranda Maverick. Do I think that a modern Rousey could summer?

2101
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 4: There's no question in my mind. You know, Coride Silva,

2102
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:40,760
Speaker 4: I don't know, Tracy Cortes probably, Jazzdavissius, yes, I'm a Unis, yes, Barber, yes,

2103
01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 4: Blanchefield probably.

2104
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 2: Bus through and strikes with her and beats her.

2105
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:48,160
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that they wouldn't also win, but I'm saying,

2106
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 4: could I imagine her just overwhelming them very quickly, Yes,

2107
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:53,840
Speaker 4: Grosso Silva and then Fiereal. Probably the buck stops there

2108
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 4: because she's got a really strong judo in a good

2109
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 4: long job.

2110
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:57,559
Speaker 2: Bara, we're talking about.

2111
01:37:57,560 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, what am I doing to look at the

2112
01:37:58,520 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 1: wrong division. I'm so sorry.

2113
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:04,640
Speaker 4: I apologe Jacqueline Cavalcanti, Yes, Carol Jsa, You're gonna be

2114
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:07,840
Speaker 4: a little more difficult. Aileen Perez, Yes, Macy chazon Cha's

2115
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 4: excuse me. Probably h Ierine eden A Aldonna. Maybe she's

2116
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 4: got a good long job, good for work. A little

2117
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 4: harder to say. Jannasanto's same. But you know, Raquel Pennington

2118
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:21,040
Speaker 4: up at two? Do I think Ronda could sub her out?

2119
01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:22,720
Speaker 4: Like again, I'm not saying that there wouldn't be a

2120
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 4: world whereth they fought ten times, Raquel doesn't win seven

2121
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:27,439
Speaker 4: of them. But that was the whole point about when

2122
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 4: Rowsey was doing. Rowsy was just overwhelming before anyone had

2123
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:33,880
Speaker 4: a second to adjust, because that style of attack which

2124
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:36,800
Speaker 4: came from Judo was so unusual at the time, and

2125
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:38,680
Speaker 4: I still think it would be vi. I would say

2126
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:40,880
Speaker 4: of the top ten BC, she could still get what

2127
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:41,879
Speaker 4: three or four wins.

2128
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 2: Maybe even five. This division has not evolved at all.

2129
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:48,320
Speaker 2: The fact that Pennington and Bueno Silva fought for that

2130
01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 2: title when both were just like kick punch, kick punch,

2131
01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 2: gas out, I mean, there was like so basic of

2132
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:57,600
Speaker 2: where we are. I don't disagree with that, Luke. One

2133
01:38:57,640 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 2: of my other favorite bits are legitimately one of my

2134
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 2: favor favorite bits is when when you you know it's

2135
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:05,960
Speaker 2: a priority for you to get the pronunciation of the

2136
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 2: Hispanic or Spanish based fighters correct. And I love when

2137
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:10,960
Speaker 2: missus Thomas sends you the voice note and then you

2138
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:13,160
Speaker 2: play it out, so it's like, you know, we head

2139
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:15,840
Speaker 2: to that, and then you know, conversely, the white skin folks,

2140
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, fuck them, that's.

2141
01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:20,559
Speaker 4: My fa fuck them, fuck them, fuck them all right, all.

2142
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 2: Right, two more and then we're out of here quickly.

2143
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 4: Taylor B. What are the best and worst parts about

2144
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 4: growing older?

2145
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:28,160
Speaker 2: I watched a mail Bag episode from two years ago,

2146
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 2: and you both looked much happier and healthier. Well, we

2147
01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:33,320
Speaker 2: were getting paid a lot more, so I imagine there's

2148
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:37,280
Speaker 2: more bad parts than good parts. In MK history, when

2149
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 2: we are the fattest, is when we are the most

2150
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 2: well paid, in happiest questions about it. H But Luke,

2151
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:46,559
Speaker 2: there's a lot of bad. One of the bads at

2152
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:49,879
Speaker 2: forty seven for me is that a lot of mornings

2153
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:52,879
Speaker 2: to get out of bed, I have to like activate

2154
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:55,799
Speaker 2: my lower back, my hip and my upper ass area

2155
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:58,599
Speaker 2: that just randomly are so stiff that I can't even

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Speaker 2: roll over without pain. That part sucks. That part sucks

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Speaker 2: a lot.

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Speaker 1: What's the good part?

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Speaker 2: I would say wisdom. I would say that even though

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Speaker 2: I still, you know, I still struggle with anxiety and depression,

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Speaker 2: and I'm fighting the good fight overall. I just like,

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Speaker 2: you know, you've been through enough battles in your life

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Speaker 2: and you've come out the other end. You you know,

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Speaker 2: whether you're putting your faith in something solid or you

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Speaker 2: just you know, believe you can bounce back. It's never

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Speaker 2: easy going through a trial, but the accumulation of like

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Speaker 2: I've been through this before, or I've been through worse,

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Speaker 2: or you know, when you're twenty three and the world

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Speaker 2: ends you, it's a lot easier to fall apart, right like,

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Speaker 2: but with the mental maturity of having gone through stuff

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Speaker 2: and knowing that that life is cyclical, that we go

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Speaker 2: through tests, but that you know this isn't the end.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It helps me a lot, Luke, I

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Speaker 2: don't know about you.

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Speaker 1: I mean good parts youdom.

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Speaker 4: Wisdom is a complicated one because, yes, you have seen

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Speaker 4: enough things in life by the time you've done two

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Speaker 4: twenty year rotations on this earth that patterns repeat and

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Speaker 4: you're able to avoid, certainly some of the worst mistakes

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Speaker 4: and recognize the time for change.

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Speaker 1: Like that's real.

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Speaker 4: But you see one thing that's been really difficult for me,

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Speaker 4: and it's better now. But you know, getting older and

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Speaker 4: getting more getting wiser about the world also means getting

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Speaker 4: wiser about understanding who you actually are and some of

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01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:35,680
Speaker 4: the bullshit you've been telling yourself for so long that

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01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:38,439
Speaker 4: just comes unraveled as you get older, and then it

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Speaker 4: becomes a little bit hard to be like, Okay, well

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Speaker 4: then what does that mean that that's this thing I've

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01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:46,920
Speaker 4: been saying about myself, either positively or negatively, actually isn't true.

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Speaker 4: And then you have to kind of figure out how

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Speaker 4: to move forward from there. That is actually way more

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Speaker 4: challenging than any other part of aging because the physical part, yeah,

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01:41:56,560 --> 01:41:59,639
Speaker 4: it sucks, but honestly, man, if you stay moving around,

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Speaker 4: stay to a routine, you don't have to go crazy

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01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:08,680
Speaker 4: deep squats, push, pull, hinge lift, throw, walk around, you'll

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Speaker 4: basically be okay for the most part.

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Speaker 1: You'll have a good life.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: It's the Honestly, I think the biggest battle with aging

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Speaker 4: is you have this long worldview. The worldview I had

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Speaker 4: in my teens was pretty close to the one I

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01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 4: had in my twenties, was pretty close to the one

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Speaker 4: I had in my thirties. The one I have now

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01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:32,280
Speaker 4: is pretty different. And getting to that position and all

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01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:34,960
Speaker 4: the things that fall apart as a consequence, and then

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01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:37,160
Speaker 4: you have to understand the world in very different terms.

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Speaker 1: That has been really, really hard. I think.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, that is interesting, I would say also too,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this relates to you, Luke, Like,

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01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:47,760
Speaker 2: I feel like if I can go back and redo

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01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:50,960
Speaker 2: my twenties with the confidence and belief in myself that

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01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:54,040
Speaker 2: I have now, that I could accomplish anything. So I

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01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:57,800
Speaker 2: feel like as I get older, I don't know, I

2215
01:42:57,840 --> 01:42:59,800
Speaker 2: get out of my own way more, which means I

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01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 2: have much more self confidence and belief in myself, and

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01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:05,720
Speaker 2: it really fuels you to do almost anything you want.

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01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:06,519
Speaker 2: I also feel like.

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01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:08,040
Speaker 4: Wisdom brings obviously the problem.

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Speaker 2: Well really, I feel like wisdom brings the ability to

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01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:14,679
Speaker 2: really enjoy the simple things in life so much more.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what's what's one of the best parts about

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01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:18,920
Speaker 2: getting older seeing your kids grow? I can't wait to

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01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:21,240
Speaker 2: be a grandfather, to be to be honest with you,

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01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:23,320
Speaker 2: my wife's always like, slow your role here, let's let

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01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:25,439
Speaker 2: the kids grow. I'm not looking for them to knock

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01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 2: anybody up. I'm just saying that those are some of

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01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:30,480
Speaker 2: the joys that I can't wait to see. I appreciate

2229
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:33,200
Speaker 2: when I'm outside at midnight taking the dogs out to

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01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:35,679
Speaker 2: crap and I look up at the sky and see,

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01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:37,960
Speaker 2: you know, a full moon, and it's just beautiful things

2232
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:40,559
Speaker 2: like that that I would have ran past and didn't

2233
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 2: you know, wouldn't have noticed in the past. Maybe also

2234
01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:46,240
Speaker 2: it's a rejection of all this technology that's controlling our

2235
01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:48,680
Speaker 2: brain and taking over that it's easier. I don't have

2236
01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:51,639
Speaker 2: reading stamina anymore, but I can put on a record

2237
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 2: and just you know, be enthralled through the headphones. Look,

2238
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:58,200
Speaker 2: there's some of those simplistic natures that I like with

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01:43:58,360 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 2: growing old, but the physical part does suck pretty bad.

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Speaker 4: Luke.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 4: It does.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I would say least on this.

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01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:07,880
Speaker 4: I've become much more in touch with my own limits,

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01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 4: and I think that has affected my confidence, to be

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01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:14,080
Speaker 4: perfectly honest with you, my confidence used to be much

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01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:21,479
Speaker 4: easier and more sturdy. It's not as sturdy as it.

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01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:22,760
Speaker 1: Once was, for sure.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Luke, there are no limits, brother.

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Speaker 4: I wish that was true. It is you.

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Speaker 2: If you're a man in a box, it's because that

2252
01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:34,800
Speaker 2: box was put around you. Put it around yourself.

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01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:36,640
Speaker 4: Now that could be true too, That could be true too.

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01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 4: I can, I can.

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Speaker 1: I can believe that right, we.

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Speaker 4: Believe in you.

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Speaker 2: Final one is a video question. This is David s

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Speaker 2: sending for Austin of JBR. Does that mean Sandin Dave Sandein?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's walk.

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Speaker 16: Shout out to morning Combat. I'm three fucking deep this Monday,

2262
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:14,440
Speaker 16: the week of Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: I hope you and your.

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Speaker 16: Families have a wonderful holiday weekend as well as the

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Speaker 16: rest of the holiday season. That being said, lt BC,

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Speaker 16: what are your predictions and three each for the first

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01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 16: year of Paramount plus and the UFC also shout out

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01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:44,960
Speaker 16: to the JBR crew and this is your boy, no special,

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01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:47,920
Speaker 16: fuck you, Let's get this ship.

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Speaker 2: So look, that's Austin. I believe of JBR. I'm not

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01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:56,280
Speaker 2: really sure, but that's what the paper said. He was

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Speaker 2: thank you for that, Luke. What are your three?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 2: This is asking hopes predictions for the.

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Speaker 1: Paramount, like, just what will change?

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Speaker 2: I think that's Austin AKA no special, Thank you Austin.

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Speaker 1: Can I just tell you I don't have proof of this.

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01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna kind of figure this out.

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Speaker 4: I think that the move away from pay per view

2280
01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:19,000
Speaker 4: will be very well received and will lead to a

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01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 4: modest but real bump in interest in MMA and potential viewership,

2282
01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:28,040
Speaker 4: certainly around the bigger events. Like I definitely think that

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01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:29,519
Speaker 4: they're gonna look at that and say we made the

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01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:32,840
Speaker 4: right call. However, I do not believe it will be transformative.

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01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 4: I do not believe this will return us to twenty

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01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:37,479
Speaker 4: sixteen or something like that. I just don't think that's realistic.

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01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:42,000
Speaker 4: That's one two. I think Gable Steveson, is this the

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Speaker 4: first year?

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Speaker 1: First year?

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01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:45,280
Speaker 4: We said, yeah year, yeah, So I'll hold that one

2291
01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:46,720
Speaker 4: because I was gonna say it's gonna become champion, but

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01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:49,120
Speaker 4: that's probably twenty twenty seven, so I'll hold on to

2293
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:49,439
Speaker 4: that one.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna make MMA a coverage fun again, Luke, because

2295
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be there. I'm gonna be on the road.

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01:46:57,280 --> 01:46:58,080
Speaker 1: I will tell you this, BC.

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Speaker 4: I think after UFC White House, it's going to be

2298
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 4: an interesting moment where I wonder if the UFC will

2299
01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 4: dial down a little bit some of the political messaging

2300
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:14,439
Speaker 4: and or currency that they've engaged in. I actually feel

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01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:16,200
Speaker 4: like that might blow up in their face a little bit.

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01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:19,800
Speaker 4: So that's two. And I think for the sport itself, PC,

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01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:21,719
Speaker 4: I don't think we're going to have many American champs

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: I do believe that.

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01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:25,560
Speaker 4: I think my prediction is it's going to be a

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01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:27,160
Speaker 4: lot of what you got already. It's going to be

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Speaker 4: international MMA running running the show.

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Speaker 2: I hope, And I'll just give you one because I

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01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:39,439
Speaker 2: hope they play up personalities, rivalries and matchups over where

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01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:43,000
Speaker 2: what the ESPN era became, which was just about content

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01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:47,760
Speaker 2: filling farming out the factory. So I hope that you know,

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01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 2: whatever rivalries they identify whether it's Ilia versus Patty or

2314
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:55,000
Speaker 2: what have you, that they fuel those that they really

2315
01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:57,920
Speaker 2: make this shit seem big again, that they're stars that

2316
01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:00,640
Speaker 2: are identified. I think you do that, you spray that

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01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:03,080
Speaker 2: to the masses. You're gonna get a bump, You're gonna

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01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:05,360
Speaker 2: get a buzz, You're gonna get an improvement in the

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01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:08,719
Speaker 2: sport will feel hot again. So that's ultimately my hope

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Speaker 2: slash prediction there. Thank you Austin for sending it in.

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Speaker 5: Any final message, Yeah, everyone, tune in Jose versus BC

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Speaker 5: dropping in about thirty minutes over a main car minute.

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Speaker 6: Let's see who wins. Let's see who wins.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna find out. We're gonna find out. LT enjoy

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Speaker 4: Yes, Happy holidays, BC, Happy holidays to all of the

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Speaker 4: MK donks. Big special thanks to anyone who sent in

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Speaker 4: a question, a video, anything. We really really appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys so much. No drinking and driving this weekend. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: no drinking and driving. Love call Uber, get a bike,

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Speaker 4: don't do dumb shit, protect yourself and each other.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Monday pregame preview you FC three twenty three brought

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Speaker 2: Thank you MK.

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Speaker 4: We out