WEBVTT - #122 - Dame Dash 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:11.119 Where we rolling. Hey's we rolling, bitch? We might be Hey, welcome, welcome, 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:16.720 Look man, it's the boulet Cap Podcast. We got a special, 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:27.360 special special interview today with Dame Dash. Now Dame Dash 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:29.320 is someone who has a kid. Was you know, kind 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:33.120 of like the epitome of a hip hop entrepreneur to me, 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:37.000 you know, like watching backstage seeing Dame and just being 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:41.640 the guy behind the rock a fella rockaware, just empire. Man, 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:45.560 he's a legend, He's a visionary. Uh. We actually went 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:48.959 to his studio, which was not far up the road 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:52.760 from our studio and sat down with him. He had 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:56.360 you'll notice some drums in the background, his band was 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:59.480 jamming out and we had a dope conversation. There was 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:05.280 a lot of inebriation. I'm just gonna I'm just not 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:07.959 even gonna be honest with you. Let's just be honest. 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:12.080 I ate trooms with Dame Dash before the interview started, 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:16.960 and the shrooms hit me right about when the interview started, 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:22.240 and I'm pretty sure they hit him as well. So 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:25.280 with that being said, so many gems in this one 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.960 on shrooms with Dame Dash. It's the bulet Camp Podcast. 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:34.040 The Legend, the visionary. The CEO. Shout out to his 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.640 stut go to Dame Dash Studios, Man, watch this ship 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.680 on Fox soul on to be all that go support 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:42.320 the homie. We appreciate his time. Very busy guy, and 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.000 he sat down with us and that this is the interview. 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:48.680 All right, look bulet camp podcast. We got a legend 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:53.840 about to roll up some O. G Yeah, Dame Dash, 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:56.960 what's up? Man? Appreciate you sitting down, bro. I mean 0:01:57.080 --> 0:01:59.680 I came through to my spot. Hey let me yeah, 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:01.680 I've I feel like it's a really inspiring space too. 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:04.280 I got to kind of just see you rehearsing with 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:09.800 your band. Just tell tell me about Dame Dash Studios 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.280 where we are. You know, I saw you in there 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:14.200 jamming out with the band. Shouts to the homie Alien, 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:18.320 your drummer who I've known for a long time. Well, 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:22.040 really this is like a spaceship and we like time trap, 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:25.520 you know, and it's a place where, like, you know, 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:28.680 anything that inspires us, we just do you know what 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:34.720 I mean? So it's music, movies, it's books, it's cartoons, educations. 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:38.240 You know, I'm a television network, but the programming is 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:41.440 are things that inspire me. You know, whatever I'm feeling, 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.760 I gotta do And I feel like that's the magic, 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.520 you know, that's the trick. You know, that's the goal, 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:49.840 to be able to monetize things that you would do 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:53.600 for free. So we're just hanging out. That's everyone's going left. 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:56.639 I feel like, right, how to make it? Really we're 0:02:56.680 --> 0:03:00.320 not really meant to work our whole life or that's 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:03.200 a slave mentality. We're meant to fucking party in that 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:06.160 funnel home life. But you got to figure out what 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.880 is a healthy party? You know, what's a sustainable party? 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.960 How can you feed your family off of Like why 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:15.720 do you have for they things you don't like to 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:17.520 feed your family? In fact, why do you have to 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.600 be separated from your family to feed your family? You 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:22.200 know what I mean? Why do you have to do 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.040 it in times that your family would be spending with you, 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.560 Like when the sun's out and son's not out, my 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:31.480 son's sleep my baby sleep yep, so he ain't missing 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.440 any dreaming And that's some real shit. Like the time 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:35.480 you would actually want to spend with your kids is 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:37.440 during the day. But then you if you have a 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:40.440 nine to five, well you're behind a desk, But where's 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:44.680 your kid behind a desk eight dollars a day. It's 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:46.840 just training him to fucking be all right with sitting 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:49.160 behind a desk when the sun's up, when he should 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:52.080 be in the fucking ocean looking at some water, running 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.400 around in the garden or something. You know what's crazy 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.760 is I got to give you Pops man, because you 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:00.160 had that Breakfast Club interview a few years ago go 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.920 where you talked about ownership, and that shit really like 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:09.000 resonated with me, so that that was my purpose. I wanted, yeah, man, 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.960 cause you know, like I've done radio for so long 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:18.000 and have worked for you know, the ihearts, the conglomerates 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:20.800 of the of the radio industry, and uh, at the 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:23.640 end of last year, I walked away from like terrestrial 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.960 radio in a sense of working for anybody and just 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.679 started my own syndicated radio show, start my own podcast, 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:34.320 and now I'm on Hell of Markets and all those 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:35.960 companies like iHeart, you know, like I have a partner, 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:39.080 I own it. Uh you know what I'm saying, Like 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:40.960 I still and I'm still on Real ninety two three 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:42.560 in La. But I'm on Real ninety two three in 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:45.679 La every night on my own terms and it promotes 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:48.360 everything you're doing that you w one hundred and I don't. 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:49.600 I don't. I don't work for them. You know what 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:50.880 I'm saying. I used to work for iHeart you know 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:52.960 what I mean? My checks used to say iHeart media 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.680 and and you know, I kind of feel like like 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:59.520 that interview you did, Man, was a lot of inspiration 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:01.080 for me. So I just want to give you props, Man, 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:04.320 because that's some real shit. Like, you can't really say 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:10.000 you're a boss unless you're unless you're actually about unless 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.479 you actually have employees, you know what I'm saying it 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:14.719 like hey or somebody. Unless you actually have a business, 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:16.880 unless you're losing money to make money, unless you know, 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:20.040 unless you're taking that risk that gambled as as yours. 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.480 You know, unless you're a founder of something that came 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.599 from your brain. Yeah, you know, something that inspired you 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.440 and that you still behind failessly. Now, I've been seeing 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:30.680 you in there jamming out with your band bro and 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:33.200 kind of talk about what blue Rock is because I 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:36.240 saw I saw that that's something obviously for people who 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:39.599 don't know, Man, Black Rock was an incredible body of 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:42.400 work that you put out over to what was that 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:47.200 two thousand and six seven. Yeah, the first time I 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.960 ever heard the Black Keys was on that album. Yeah, 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:53.840 I feel like that album doesn't get talked about enough, 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:58.599 you know, probably by people that wouldn't appreciate it, you know, right, 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.520 those kinds of things. To me, it's like drugs. You know, 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:04.840 you don't advertise them, you're just word of my mouth. 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:06.479 It's so good people who just like if you know, 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:09.080 you know, type shit, right, That's the way I like it. Yeah, 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:12.480 for me, it's not about pop culture. It's about people 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:16.240 that are like minded. It's about a cold and the 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.920 epic where we're speaking in the room saying that's something 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.040 and no one else understands, right, because we're talking to 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:26.920 the boss, where everybody else is talking to slaves. Some 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:28.920 real shit. Like you'd be having a conversation in a 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:31.840 room full of thirty people and only two people are 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.520 on the same wavelength. It'd be rare that I even 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:37.040 have that conversation and let myself be in that situation. 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.560 I've actually been able to architect where I don't have 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:43.719 to be around morons anymore. It's beautiful thing, bubble, you know, 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:46.280 it's a beautiful thing. I feel like too. You kind 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.200 of have had a lot of a big hand in 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.279 in bringing the Black Keys kind of to like the 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.719 forefront of like No, No, No No, No. I broke the 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.000 Black Keys, There's no doubt about it. No one knew 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.120 who they was. They didn't even do That's what I'm saying. 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.360 They didn't make video. They didn't even know what it 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:03.960 was like to actually have bread, oh, what it looked 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:07.359 like to spend it. I burnt them out and now 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:09.039 they're one of the biggest rock groups in the world. 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.160 So but you know, my beef with them is that 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:15.240 they never ever showed the appreciation to those artists that 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.000 broke them, which was hip hop and never George Jones 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:21.080 the most depths. Those guys didn't even know who they were. 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:22.560 They did it just because they trusted me, and then 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:23.920 all of a sudden they blew up and they were 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:29.520 like yo, they were gone. Their ideals changed. That's how 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:33.800 I looked at it. Pat McCartney was very disappointing to me. Wow, 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.160 And you know, telling them, I said, so, well, we 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:38.240 got to give you your flowers in the rock world too. Man. 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:39.760 You know what I'm saying, shout out to Dame Dash. 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:43.240 We gotta because because I'm a fan of of of 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:46.080 of of of that. Uh. I appreciate the leg of 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.920 of what you did man and what you continue to work. 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:50.560 It was a black rock too, That's what I'm saying. 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:52.800 You were telling me about that. But those guys were missing. 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:54.280 They didn't want to put it out and I didn't 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.080 feel like chasing them to put it up. But it 0:07:57.120 --> 0:08:00.920 had sean price on it, tile lip quality. You know, 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:06.560 whiz Khalifa fucking currency before Black and Yellow Wi's Khalifa? 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:12.280 What is? What is blue rock? Blue Rock is my 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:16.880 music division within my media empire. It's where it's really 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:22.440 my therapy. Like I do music for fun. I'm a monetizer, 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:26.360 don't get it twisted, but it's not urgent to me 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:28.760 to monetize. It's not about when it's like, I'm building 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:32.280 a catalog of things that will be considered vinyl for 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:35.560 people that appreciate real music and instrumentation, and just like 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:38.360 you know, the effort it takes. You know, it took 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.480 us two days to set the room up just to record, 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.360 because it's an art. If you look at what they're doing, 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:49.440 they're recording in different rooms, recording live. It's an art, 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:52.720 you know. Yeah, I was watching this documentary on Netflix 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.360 No on Disney Plus about the Beatles and they're doing 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:58.000 exactly what I've been doing. I'm like, the Beatles been 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:04.680 copying me. That's how I felt. You know, that's fair man. 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:08.400 I definitely think you know, you've laid a lot of 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:10.040 the groundwork for a lot of the stuff that's popping 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:12.520 right now. So you know, I thought the biggest compliment 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:15.560 that Kanye gave me was the original black hipster. The 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:18.200 original black hipster, Yeah, because that's I feel like that's 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.520 what every kid wants to be. And I really I 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:23.360 guess if Kanye said it, If Kanye said it right, 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:26.079 who we kind of look as the guy who brought 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:30.040 wearing pink polos to hip hop and you know, kind 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:34.120 of normalizing like certain aspects of fashion and music. If 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:37.640 he said it, then well he made it everything that's 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:41.080 unnormal to be normal. Yeah. I mean, I feel like 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:45.079 that Drink Champs interview obviously was a moment that we'll 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:48.719 live for hip hop, that will live on forever. All 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:53.240 our interviews are Anybody in My Bloodline interview was classic. 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:58.479 But what Kanye said about you essentially being the architect, 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:03.600 being the visionary, I mean I remember as a kid 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:07.800 seeing you on backstage and being like, man, this guy's 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:10.480 this guy's the that's that's the CEO, right. I remember 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:12.800 you yelling at DJ Clue for wearing the deaf jam 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:16.760 leather jacket and just being like, man, like, I fucked 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:20.120 with I fucked with that. Just that mindset. They're like, yo, no, 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:23.920 we're Rockefeller. Like. They made it easy for me to 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:29.319 be me. You know, I like being batman the villains 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.360 and people that are doing wrong, but a hero to 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:35.680 those that need to be protected our culture. So you know, 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.200 they were a lot of fun to me, making examples. 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:39.920 You notice I shaped all that shit. You saw it 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.400 because I captured it, yep. I just wanted you to 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:45.280 see that. You know, that's how I treat them, sucking motherfuckers, 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.600 and y'all could treat them the same way too. That's 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:50.400 why I showed it and captured it. I want you 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.280 to see the truth. They make you believe that there's 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:55.400 something they're not and that you need them and you don't. 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.760 And behind closed doors, certain people kiss ass and certain 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.559 people make them kiss the I make them kiss the 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:04.240 ring or to make them bend the knee, I'll break 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:07.400 that back till they been the knee, and I think 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:11.679 that that is something that can be applied self awareness 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.520 of who you are and our culture represents. Were the 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:18.400 jewel of the universe, and the only way to control 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:19.920 the jewel is to make the jewel think that the 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.960 jewel is not the jewel. I'm not going for that 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:26.600 dumb shit. I know I'm the jewel. I shine and 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:30.960 my culture shines. I think that that has kind of 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:35.720 been the blueprint of the music industry right, making artists 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:39.520 think that they need the labor culture, make us fight 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:43.360 each other and fucking protect our oppressor like they fucking 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:48.040 are the plug. It's a good program, you know, kudos 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:51.880 to the enemy. But once we're aware of it, why 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.040 keep letting them winning that way? Knowing that it's just 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:57.520 a mental thing. Physically we kick ass and mentally too. 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:02.360 We just have to know it. And it takes. It takes, 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:04.719 like I feel like, finally takes doing it. But I 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.160 feel like, finally there's like a new generation of artists 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.840 that all the kids is listening. So I was invested 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.520 in the first place. I was like, these old motherfuckers 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:16.160 do not listen. They're just stubborn, they're complacent. They just 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:20.320 want to survive, get the next advanced check, survive, never 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:23.240 recoup and be depressed and then be like, what the 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:26.040 fuck I don't consider that living. Yeah, I feel like 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:30.480 they're finally this era of artists. At least it seems 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:34.720 like a young A lot of these younger kids understand. Yeah, 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:39.559 they do. But we do have to stop glorifying us 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:43.480 killing each other, because that's just them celebrating. That's a 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:46.440 w every time one of us gets hurt, and it's 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:48.800 us doing it to each other. Every time us doing 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.920 it to each other, and then the suicide mission, the 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.320 bad food we keep putting in our body. How are 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:59.480 you gonna trust your oppressure oppressor to feed you pissing 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.800 on your foot? Ooh, bro, I would never let my 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:06.320 enemy feed me. That doesn't make sense. It's not logical. 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:09.840 I never let the person that's knocking me down get 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.959 me food, religion, or anything. I'm not listening to nothing 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:16.080 you're saying because it's only to control me. I'm aware 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:20.320 of that. I think we all are. But everybody's pussy. 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.920 That's the problem. Fear is implemented. It's a program to 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:27.839 stop us for making our dreams come true. And most 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.360 of the things we're scared of never happened until you 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.760 think about it so much that you manifested. You know, 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:35.920 when you're sitting around thinking about shit you're scared of, 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:37.880 that means you're not doing nothing about it. Because when 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:40.719 you're doing shit, you ain't thinking about the past. You're 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:43.719 thinking about what's in funny, you know. So if you 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.000 got time to reflect, that's too much time. You should 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:49.640 be working. Too much time reflecting the sucker shit to 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:54.040 me's lock in your wounds. I'd rather fight, And that's 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.400 what I want to be famous for fighting. I don't 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:58.640 want to be famous for rapping. I don't want to 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:01.160 be famous for acting. I want to be famous for 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:03.480 kicking some fucking ass to those that deserve it and 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.040 helping people that I look. And that's what I'm gonna 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:10.080 go down to history for an ask kicker. Fear is 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:14.240 definitely the one thing right that keeps everybody in their place. 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:16.160 You know what I'm saying. We think of people who 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:19.840 won't take that risk to start their own business, or 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.600 we're talking about artists earlier, or don't even tell the truth. 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.640 You know. I did an experiment last week because I 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:28.960 was like, I don't understand how people are depressed. It's 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:32.240 so much fun to be healthy. And I was like, 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:34.440 there were some things that were bothering me with people 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:35.760 that were close to me, and I said, I'm not 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:39.960 going to talk about what's bothering me for until at 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.840 least they talk about it. And they didn't talk about it, 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.240 and I internalized it, and I was sad a little 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:47.640 bit every day because of that, and I was like, Fuck, 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:50.600 this is what depressure is. I'm never doing that again. 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:54.240 So I dealt with it. I articulated in a different way, 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.240 because the only way to change a scenario is to 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.840 do it different. You know. The thing about people is 0:14:59.880 --> 0:15:02.040 that be like, oh, what is it always happening this way? 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.360 Because you fucking do it the same way every day. 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:08.160 You react the same way, you move the same I mean, 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:10.240 how do you expect a different result if you're not 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:14.040 doing anything different, you know? So I decided to approach 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.720 it a different way, and I wrote like letters and 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:18.560 shit and then it worked itself out. But at the 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:20.120 end of the day, what I know is I'm never 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:24.600 gonna ever let anything that's bothering me faster faster, because 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.640 that causes sadness, which causes cancer. It's not healthy to 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:32.160 be unhappy. Laughter is key as well. Laughter is key, man. 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:33.840 I feel like, yeah, I mean, just being here for 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:35.440 the last few hours, I feel like you kind of 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:39.040 have a great environment for creatives here for just nothing 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:41.120 that's a vibe in here. Man, this is what this is. 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:43.680 You know, sometimes you got to Macaveli yourself for peace. 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:46.280 I need the people leave me to fuck alone so 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:49.400 I could actually work on me and art detect the 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:51.680 environment that I could do daily to the extent that 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:54.320 I don't even see time. I can't. I'm like fifty, 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:55.800 and I'm like, what the fuck out that happened? I 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.920 don't feel fifty. I don't feel It's so much fun. 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.840 It's more fun than when I was. Wow, it's crazy. 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:04.240 That says a lot, man. That's why people should invest 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.880 in their future. See, when I was twenty five, I 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:08.760 looked at what I wanted to be doing in twenty 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:10.480 five years. It was like, I'm definitely not gonna be 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:14.200 trying to shake a fucking bottle on the stage. You 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:17.880 know I did that, right, of course. Of course. I 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:21.160 just saw you reenact the Dame dash Dance. From the 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:22.960 way it is happening, bro, I just saw that, I 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.200 was like, yo, you nailed it, like and then and 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:29.080 I just saw it dance I was you'd have thought 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:31.520 it was it was it was ninety nine or two thousand. Again, 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.480 it's my dance. If I ever can't do my own dance, 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:37.400 that's real fucked up. And it's like a it's like 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:39.800 a it's as much of a dance as it's just 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.400 like a moment. It's like a lot of moments, bro. 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.200 If you notice, it was like the Dame Dash dance 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:47.240 is like thirty different dances. It was every time I 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:49.480 fucking danced in a video and got captured. It was 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:54.320 just you know, me being free. How the freedom looks 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:57.200 like that dance? How was it? You know? It's really 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:59.480 funny when people try to do it. It It looks simple, 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:01.560 but you just can't do it. That doesn't look simple 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:03.480 to me. A little kickback and I'll be like, it's 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:05.680 simple to me. A little spind down to the floor, 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:08.240 the spin of the floor, want to smooth, it's like 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:11.000 an a one mixtape move on the floor with a bottom. 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:23.639 I don't know now, uh obviously you know, and I 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.879 do it. When I performed, Yeah, I was gonna say, like, 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.280 you know, you. You're getting there jamming out and you 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:31.440 have a band, you have a you have a full band, 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:35.119 you're singing like I got to hear some music, you know, 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:37.879 rock star? Yeah, Like like is that something? I mean, 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:40.080 obviously you're you're gonna monetize whatever you do, right, But 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.040 like you said, music, it's just it's just therapeutic for 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:46.480 you as well. Right. You know what happens is usually 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:50.520 how it started was coait for a second son, how 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.280 song was coming around and doing artistic things, and I 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:54.720 was like, I don't give a fuck. If your show's 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:58.159 not right, it doesn't matter. So I was like, I 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:01.600 sign your live, be a real artist, and go get 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:04.600 yourself a band. And he got a band. They were 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:08.480 all right, but you know, I was starting to rehearse 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:10.719 him to show him how to do it, and then 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.040 I ended up firing all them and ship. But you know, 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:16.080 and it just turned into me just fucking making just 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.119 as many songs. It's like a competition. Matter of fact, 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:22.399 I'm gonna let him take you real quick. So what 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:25.119 happened with the Blue Rock boot Campus and walking through it. 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:27.760 He's been in the boot camp for three years, so 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:30.760 the Blue Rock boot Camp is something that is whole document. 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:34.960 What do you required? What are you required to do? Man, 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:40.639 give us the rundown. You're definitely gonna. You're definitely gonna. 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:45.360 If you have fear, he's gonna. He's gonna mirror whatever 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:47.919 you have in you and you canna have to overcome that. 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.200 And it's amazing because it's like on some real like 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:55.359 Karate Kid Master Splinter, it sounds like, it sounds deep 0:18:55.560 --> 0:19:00.479 because I realized how much anger I have and and 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:02.240 and it was so funny because there was moments where 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:06.360 I was like, seeing that mirror and you overcome that, 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:08.200 and then you you have love. You have no choice 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:10.840 but to have love after that because the fear is hatred. 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:13.280 We have to understand that anyone who does have fear, 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:15.840 it has hatred and if you have hatred, you can't 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:18.800 have love. But yeah, so when we when we were 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:20.840 doing that, and then it became like every night it 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:22.959 was like he'd go do a song. Then he'd be like, 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:24.440 and then I go do a song, and then we 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:26.639 go back and forth, and it was like I'm calling 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:34.919 you up, yeah, performing wise, yes, yes, in the street whatever. 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:38.120 I'm never gonna send somebody to do something, gonna do myself. 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:40.439 That's some real ship. That's how everybody should be. If 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:42.680 I'm up there doing it, then you better be doing 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:45.520 it at least as good as me or better, way 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:49.880 better fifty right right, right right. That's some real ship. 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:53.240 And the whole process is gonna be you know, every 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:55.760 step of it. He's gonna be there and he's gonna 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:57.920 you know, if you if you're gonna like he always says, 0:19:57.960 --> 0:19:59.720 you ain't gonna hustle me, you know what I mean? 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:01.960 So if you show up and you do it like, 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:03.800 he's gonna be there and he's gonna be like, O, 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:07.600 this is you know, it's not only the performance. What 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:10.720 else you gotta come from. You gotta come with the visuals. 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.840 You gotta come with that. I got a whole TV 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:18.600 show now, it's a whole Entourage Curby Enthusiasm show. Oh wow, 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:22.600 you can't be performing. What happens is every two, every 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:26.320 a certain day, I let all the artists that I 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:29.320 know come through and I have the band and they 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:32.359 gotta perform. But you can't just perform. You gotta come 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:35.159 and bring a visual screen. You gotta bring an experience, 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:38.159 you know what I mean? Like, you know, so I 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:42.720 was shooting, shooting and edited every week for real, for real, 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:45.239 Like I think that that's that's something like like like 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:48.280 we talked about earlier, Like that might be one of 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:53.639 the only things from the older era of music, development 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:56.159 of artists, development of Let me tell you that that 0:20:56.320 --> 0:21:00.520 that you know you had that rock chain for sure? 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:06.520 What's cleifland Jay electronic? Yep, all of them were in 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:09.600 DED one seventy two. I made all of them practice. 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:13.520 You don't see what I'm saying. Starting shout out to 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:16.920 Stally Rick Chris, one of the best. Chris, one of 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:19.240