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Speaker 2: gonna do. We're gonna walk through a surprise for each team,
Speaker 2: and we're gonna go pretty rapid fire through that. It's
Speaker 2: just a guy that we've been really impressed by because
Speaker 2: you know, like I feel like we've done a lot
Speaker 2: of negative commentary on some teams recently. We're kind of
Speaker 2: due for a scrubbing. We're due to like burn some
Speaker 2: sage and just say positive things about thirty people. So
Speaker 2: I've got the NL, Peter's got the AL But first,
Speaker 2: I'm still buzzing about that Mariner's Yankees game on Tuesday Night,
Speaker 2: thirteen innings, the Mariners walk it off one nothing. That
Speaker 2: was Luis Castiover's Garrett Cole Part two. Part one, Luis
Speaker 2: Castillo took the Hill in the Bronx already up six
Speaker 2: to nothing. Part two was as advertised that was an
Speaker 2: ace off Andres Munoz had a dick on the table.
Speaker 2: Ninth inning for Seattle, Matt Brash shut it down where
Speaker 2: all As Chapman looked good. That really really felt like
Speaker 2: I was watching it and I could see the breath
Speaker 2: of these guys like that felt like cold weather, late
Speaker 2: October baseball.
Speaker 3: I think you are exactly right. But the Yankee had
Speaker 3: so many opportunities to put runs across the board and
Speaker 3: they did not. One of the worst base running performances
Speaker 3: I've seen by a team maybe this year. I mean
Speaker 3: the Yankees, it felt like, made six to seven outs
Speaker 3: on the bases that could have resulted in runs. Should
Speaker 3: the Yankees have won, probably, but it's baseball, and the
Speaker 3: Mariners won, And that just goes to show that the
Speaker 3: Mariners are truly a playoff caliber team when you can
Speaker 3: go and face the Yankees with Garrett Cole on the
Speaker 3: bump and you have an ace to be on the
Speaker 3: same side and be pretty much better than him. And
Speaker 3: on that front, if the Yankees play the Mariners in
Speaker 3: any of these series, Let's say the Mariners make it
Speaker 3: out of the Wild Card, they should go in fully
Speaker 3: confident that they can bang with the Yankees. They've proved
Speaker 3: it during the regular season, they've proved it in that
Speaker 3: ace off, and the Mariners are legit. Yankees, You're in trouble.
Speaker 2: Can I just say that the bullpens before Jonathan Lewizaga
Speaker 2: in the thirteenth combined for eight no hit innings or
Speaker 2: eight one hit innings pardon because Chappin allowed to hit.
Speaker 2: The Yankees had three hits, all three were singles in
Speaker 2: that game. Looking at the Mariners, Luis Castillo eight innings,
Speaker 2: three hits, seven punch outs, Andres Muno struck out the
Speaker 2: side in order in the ninth. In the tenth, Paul
Speaker 2: Seawold a one two three inning with a punch out,
Speaker 2: Matthew Festa in the eleventh a one two three inning,
Speaker 2: and then Matt Brash two hitless innings with three punch outs.
Speaker 2: That bullpen, like we talk often about the improvements that
Speaker 2: they made with Castillo. You know, we even talk about
Speaker 2: au Hineo Suarez a good bit because he's turned into
Speaker 2: a really solid power bat for them. But a guy
Speaker 2: popping up like Festa, a guy having the type of
Speaker 2: year like Seawald is having, Andres Munoz who felt like
Speaker 2: a throw in in the Austin Nola deal with ty
Speaker 2: frant and Tremall.
Speaker 3: Dude is just Edwin Diaz two point zero, a young
Speaker 3: version of him. It seems like on the on the Mariners,
Speaker 3: he blows cheese and he's got the same sort of
Speaker 3: breaking ball. Is he Edwin Diaz? Not, of course, not
Speaker 3: relax Mets fans, but he looks like a young version
Speaker 3: of him, and the Mariners had that young version in
Speaker 3: Edwin Diaz. He's on the fast track to being one
Speaker 3: of the better relievers in the sport.
Speaker 2: He is absolutely incredible. So that game was awesome, and
Speaker 2: no timely hitting certainly helped the cause. But I am
Speaker 2: a sucker for the low scoring games. I know a
Speaker 2: lot of people like offense, A lot of people like
Speaker 2: the long balls, and I like offense too. I like
Speaker 2: when offenses are clicking, but games like this. There are
Speaker 2: some really enjoyable nine to eight games in the postseason,
Speaker 2: but I feel like the most enjoyable games in the
Speaker 2: regular season are not nine to eight. They're one nothing
Speaker 2: at thirteen in eights. That's why we're baseball freaks, because
Speaker 2: we would rather watch one zero game. I mean, I'm
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Speaker 3: That's what they call me, mister corporate on a lot
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Speaker 3: Might as well use our code if you want to
Speaker 3: full deposit match, might as well. But one of my
Speaker 3: favorite bets of the year. You know, we even tracked
Speaker 3: them last year. Unders were my most profitable because I
Speaker 3: target the pitchers. You know, I like a game that
Speaker 3: lacks offense, and I target those because everybody usually likes overs.
Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is we're the baseball freaks where
Speaker 3: we'd rather enjoy some of this. But I have to
Speaker 3: say there's nobody on the East Coasts for the Yankees
Speaker 3: who enjoyed that game last night. I don't care who
Speaker 3: you are, because there's just no way. It was good
Speaker 3: to see Garrett Cole turn into seven inning, four hit,
Speaker 3: no run, eight K type performance, But to stay up
Speaker 3: till three in the morning just to see a base
Speaker 3: hit loss is not what Yankee fans signed up for,
Speaker 3: and especially when it's at two thirty in the morning.
Speaker 3: West Coast baseball not ideal, but for West Coast fans
Speaker 3: of the Mariners as about as ideal as it gets.
Speaker 2: That's why we love this sport in I mean, we
Speaker 2: love it because but like it rips our heart out
Speaker 2: as fans, you know what I mean. It is such
Speaker 2: a ruthless sport and it makes you stay up until
Speaker 2: two thirty in the morning to watch a four and
Speaker 2: a half hour game, and it like the beauty is
Speaker 2: you come back and you've got another game at four
Speaker 2: to ten the next day. It is awesome. This sport
Speaker 2: is is awesome in that regard. One more thing before
Speaker 2: we get to our surprise on each team. We've got
Speaker 2: the Field of Dreams game coming up tonight. That's the
Speaker 2: Cubs in Reds and Dyersville, Iowa. And I remember why
Speaker 2: you're looking at me like that, isn't it Friday? No,
Speaker 2: it's Thursday.
Speaker 3: It is Thursday. Yes, sue me. I'm not a real
Speaker 3: baseball guy, just not a real baseball guy. What I
Speaker 3: will say is Drew Smiley and Nick Lidolo being the
Speaker 3: pitching matchup is objectively hilarious in Iowa because if we had,
Speaker 3: I like, I can't think of.
Speaker 2: A better one. You've just got two lanky load of
Speaker 2: mid nineties left handers that like might get some strikeouts,
Speaker 2: but for the most part, it's ground balls and fly balls,
Speaker 2: and there will probably be a couple of balls hit
Speaker 2: into the corn. The reason I bring this game up
Speaker 2: is because last year, and this is one of the
Speaker 2: very few times we've ever done this, I had a
Speaker 2: game that night. I think you had another obligation that night,
Speaker 2: and we were both going to be watching the Field
Speaker 2: of Dreams game passively. But before any of this happened,
Speaker 2: just watching the build up to White Sox Yankees, We're like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is going to under deliver, you know, Like Field
Speaker 2: of Dreams. It was a fine movie, but I don't
Speaker 2: know how I can live up.
Speaker 3: To the hype.
Speaker 2: Obviously, the game was great, but the theater and the
Speaker 2: presentation that Fox put on proved us so ridiculously wrong
Speaker 2: that I got back. Yes, if I got.
Speaker 3: Back, I did like it. I did like it a
Speaker 3: lot more than I thought I would, But I still
Speaker 3: didn't love it, because I'm not the biggest fan of
Speaker 3: that movie. But to your point, it did surprise me
Speaker 3: how much I liked it versus what I thought going in.
Speaker 2: Yes, it surprised both of us to the point where
Speaker 2: I got back from my game at like twelve thirty
Speaker 2: that night, right after Ta hit the walk off home run,
Speaker 2: and I recorded something. I recorded like thirty sec. I
Speaker 2: recorded a thirty second disclaimer saying, like we fucked up.
Speaker 2: We were so wrong about this. This was awesome. Disregard
Speaker 2: ten minutes of commentary about the Field of Dreams game
Speaker 2: before we even watched the Field of Dreams game, so
Speaker 2: that even though it's Drew Smiley and Nick Lidolo, I
Speaker 2: am going to watch the shit out of that game.
Speaker 3: I'm going to watch the shit out of it. Not
Speaker 3: because of those pitchers, although Nick Lidolo is incredibly fascinating
Speaker 3: as a left hander, but Manfred's overnighting juice balls over
Speaker 3: to the Futures game. Combine that with the corn humidity.
Speaker 3: ARM and I were talking about that just an hour ago,
Speaker 3: about the cornfields. How that adds a little extra juice
Speaker 3: in there. There will be balls of fly in at
Speaker 3: the Futures game.
Speaker 2: Right the Field of Dreams game.
Speaker 3: What did I say, Field of Truth game. I'm in
Speaker 3: my prospect arm and I were just talking prospects as well.
Speaker 3: From the futures game. I got a little different hats on,
Speaker 3: but prijepects is the hat I'm currently wearing. US coaches
Speaker 3: Baseball God.
Speaker 2: Corporate, You're ridiculous. All right, let's get into the surprises again.
Speaker 2: One surprise every team ALE or NL.
Speaker 3: First, let's go with the AL.
Speaker 2: Why now First, Okay, you're gonna lead us through the AL.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna lead us through the NL. We're gonna go
Speaker 2: pretty rapid, fire man. I mean, it's gonna be like,
Speaker 2: you know, you name the guy sentence I give you,
Speaker 2: you know, not even a rebuttal, just like, hey, he's
Speaker 2: been really good, and then we move on.
Speaker 3: He's been really good. And also another disclaimer. I came
Speaker 3: in with the ALE, he came in with the NL,
Speaker 3: so there could be slight disagreements, but I feel like
Speaker 3: we're pretty we're hand in hand in some of a
Speaker 3: lot of these things. I usually start with the ALE East.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start with the AL West this time. Let's say,
Speaker 3: whoa dude. I know, I'm throwing us off a little bit,
Speaker 3: making Yankee fans weight, making oriole fans the hottest team
Speaker 3: in baseball. Waight, yeah, Astros, I'm going with Christian Javier.
Speaker 3: He's earned it third in starter era on the Astros
Speaker 3: that includes Justin Berlander and Framber Valdez, but he leads
Speaker 3: all of the Houston Ashros starters in strikeouts per nine innings.
Speaker 3: Christian Xavier in his three point one four era has
Speaker 3: not only proved me definitely wrong, but he has been
Speaker 3: just one of the better pitchers in the American League overall.
Speaker 2: Is this you waving the white flag? Or do we
Speaker 2: have to wait until his fifteen year career is over.
Speaker 3: I I was talking about with Colby just an hour
Speaker 3: ago as well, we have to wait until the Hall
Speaker 3: of Fame ceremony for me really to wave the white
Speaker 3: flag because with Andrew ben attendee, I called it early
Speaker 3: and then he went on a really good road stand
Speaker 3: with the Yankees road trip. Christian Xavier, now that he's
Speaker 3: playing really well, I'm going to extend the timeline. And
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm being very fair, very fair.
Speaker 2: No, you're being super fair. So as soon as a
Speaker 2: guy goes over four, if you said they're going to suck,
Speaker 2: you know we can call it. Say hey, I told you.
Speaker 2: But when you say that a guy is not as
Speaker 2: good as you think yet he is putting together one
Speaker 2: of the better seasons among starting pitchers in the American League.
Speaker 2: We gotta wait, we got to see this thing through
Speaker 2: to the finish life.
Speaker 3: Put me on MLB Network. There we go, next one,
Speaker 3: next one, Seattle Mariners. We were just talking about him.
Speaker 3: Au Henny O Swarez. I think has been the biggest surprise.
Speaker 3: Remember when the big trade was for Jesse Winker. Au
Speaker 3: hen Swarez has been straight up better. He's walking at
Speaker 3: a twelve percent rate, one of the highest in his
Speaker 3: career besides that twenty twenty season, and he's tied for
Speaker 3: the team lead in home runs with Julio Rodriguez at eighteen.
Speaker 3: We still have pretty much two months left of the season.
Speaker 3: I think he's going to approach thirty home runs. He's
Speaker 3: been one of the Mariners' best hitters in a lineup
Speaker 3: that really does need him. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the other argument could be made for ty
Speaker 2: France because I wasn't expecting ty France to do that,
Speaker 2: though I was, I was surprised by it. But I'm
Speaker 2: a little bit more surprised that a Henio Suarez is
Speaker 2: as good as he is, because again, he was an afterthought.
Speaker 2: He was a salary dump in that deal. He might
Speaker 2: have depleted the return. It was Williamson. They might have
Speaker 2: gotten more for a winker if they left Suarez out
Speaker 2: of the deal. But Suarez has been really good. I
Speaker 2: mean what, he's fourth among the Mariners in war I
Speaker 2: think too, Yeah.
Speaker 3: He's he's he had below the Mendoza line for the Reds.
Speaker 3: Last year. He was terrible. He's terrible, He's a salary dump,
Speaker 3: and now he's one of the better hitters on the Marions.
Speaker 3: To your point, though totally agree, like ty France is
Speaker 3: an honorable mention here. But I felt like at the
Speaker 3: beginning of the season we were all so pro ty France,
Speaker 3: like we've bet Arham has been pro Ty France. It
Speaker 3: seems like since he was on the Padres as a prospect,
Speaker 3: as a dude who just continues to hit, so we
Speaker 3: maybe we didn't imagine that he'd be one of the
Speaker 3: best overall first basement in baseball. But I think we
Speaker 3: all thought that he would be really good. That's the
Speaker 3: only reason I didn't Adam, Yeah, I understand. Moving on
Speaker 3: to the Texas Rangers and this one I was talking
Speaker 3: with Colby because you could say brock Burke who's been
Speaker 3: a phenomenal rookie reliever for them. But you could say
Speaker 3: Jonah him their catcher. But I think a lot of
Speaker 3: people thought he would take the next step. He's always
Speaker 3: been a great defender. But a one eighteen WRC plus
Speaker 3: for him. But I think the answer is clear here,
Speaker 3: Jack Martin Perez, are you kidding me? Remember when he
Speaker 3: was on the Red Sox and was an absolute afterthought
Speaker 3: and now he was an All Star, shoved in the
Speaker 3: All Star Game, and he's been one of the best
Speaker 3: pitchers in the American League this year. He's a full
Speaker 3: win better than any pitcher in terms of f War.
Speaker 3: He's the era leader in terms of starters on the Rangers.
Speaker 3: Martin Perez to just continues to say, f the numbers.
Speaker 3: I'm that guy.
Speaker 2: You've got no rebuttal For me, I have no rebuttal.
Speaker 2: I did not expect Martin Perez to be a good
Speaker 2: major league starting pitcher this year, and he's a great one.
Speaker 3: I almost laughed when they signed him Angels. This one
Speaker 3: is also pretty easy for me because he's been overall
Speaker 3: one of the best players on their team. Taylor Ward,
Speaker 3: the dude has been better in the WRC plus department
Speaker 3: than sho Hao Tani. He's been better in the f
Speaker 3: ward department if we're just talking hitting than sho Hao Tani.
Speaker 3: Borderline All Star. Been one of the bright spots on
Speaker 3: a really disappointing Angels team. But at least they found
Speaker 3: another guy. Also want to shout out Luis ran Hifo,
Speaker 3: who's been great as of late. But over the full
Speaker 3: season from April to August eleventh, Taylor Ward has been
Speaker 3: one of the better players on this team, probably the
Speaker 3: third overall best player.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the team that has run out Andrew Velasquez for
Speaker 2: ninety eight games, who has an OPS that is four
Speaker 2: ninety Yeah, that's incredible. Taylor Ward is performing well. And
Speaker 2: I think that a lot of people thought that Taylor
Speaker 2: Wood was going to be good this year. Nobody thought
Speaker 2: that Taylor Wood was going to do this this year.
Speaker 2: They thought it was gonna be Marsha n Adell and
Speaker 2: Taylor Ward might be that fourth outfielder and he would
Speaker 2: be good. He would solidify a spot on the bench.
Speaker 2: Taylor Ward has now solidified a spot in the lineup
Speaker 2: every day dude.
Speaker 3: The Angels next year with Mike troutcho Oh Tawny, Taylor ward.
Speaker 2: They're gonna be great. They're gonna be so good, coolproof.
Speaker 2: There's no shot they missed the postseason.
Speaker 3: God damn it. I hate that team all right. I
Speaker 3: lost all my buddy of them too. Just burn my
Speaker 3: wind total ticket. I've talked about this podcast before moving
Speaker 3: on to the Oakland A's There's a lot of good
Speaker 3: options here. I've been very intrigued with what a guy
Speaker 3: like Jeams Kaprillion has been able to show lately overall,
Speaker 3: but and Paul Blackburn, of course has been great, but
Speaker 3: he's been regressing a ton lately. I was surprised to
Speaker 3: see that he is a four to eight ERA right now.
Speaker 3: So the guy I went with, Cole Irvin hit a
Speaker 3: four to eight e RA last year, two nine to
Speaker 3: four ERA this year. He leads all Oakland starters in ERA.
Speaker 3: You should see this man at home in front of
Speaker 3: forty people. This could be the greatest picture on the planet.
Speaker 3: He's got a one six six ERA at home, absolutely
Speaker 3: dominates in the coliseum that is falling apart. Cole Irvin
Speaker 3: doesn't care. He like sleeping in his own bed and
Speaker 3: shoving in Oakland and overall over this full season he's
Speaker 3: been one of the better left handed pitchers in the
Speaker 3: American League. He truly has been if you're looking at
Speaker 3: the production.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of all the way in on what
Speaker 2: Cole Irvan has done so far this year. And I
Speaker 2: was gonna say Blackburn because Blackburn was the All Star,
Speaker 2: but Cole Irvin, Like at the end of the year,
Speaker 2: if you were to guess who the All Star was
Speaker 2: on this team, it's it's that guy. Cole Irvin has
Speaker 2: been phenomenal for them this year. He has been the
Speaker 2: one phenomenal player for them this year that is still
Speaker 2: on the team. I mean, they're in a really bad spot.
Speaker 2: I was also just looking at the a's head shots
Speaker 2: and Paul Blackbird and AJ Puck look way too similar
Speaker 2: Amish with the red long beard, pretty gross, So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go with the guy that is a bit more
Speaker 2: cleaner kept.
Speaker 3: Also, AJ Puck has been good too.
Speaker 2: Puck's been good. Puck Puck has been good. They drafted
Speaker 2: him as a starting pitcher, like who's what fifth overall
Speaker 2: and now he's resurfaced as a bullpen guy. If he's
Speaker 2: a bullpen guy, great, but this is in underwhelming development
Speaker 2: for AJ Puck.
Speaker 3: I'd say I just really liked him in college, and
Speaker 3: I was afraid that he was gonna bust and he
Speaker 3: believes it hard. At least he's found a role though,
Speaker 3: Like he's not a I never made the major leagues
Speaker 3: and never made it at all. Like he can still
Speaker 3: be really, really nasty, and I'm just I'm excited for
Speaker 3: a guy that I rooted for in college. Move on
Speaker 3: to the Al Central. Twins was tough. Twins was tough,
Speaker 3: but I went with Luisa Rise. Yeah, is it that
Speaker 3: surprising that he's hitting three twenty nine. I think it is,
Speaker 3: But this is a guy who's hit in this sort
Speaker 3: of range. Last year he hit around two ninety four.
Speaker 3: But the WRC plus is what I'm looking at. He's
Speaker 3: always around one hundred to ten. Now he's got a
Speaker 3: one forty WRC plus. Luisa Rise has not only been
Speaker 3: one of the best hitters in the Vision, he has
Speaker 3: been one of the best overall hitters in baseball. This year.
Speaker 3: Has the lowest amount of strikeouts of any hitter in baseball.
Speaker 3: Great contact bat reminds you of old baseball Tony gwyn
Speaker 3: He's not Tony Gwinn, I know, but the guy who's
Speaker 3: hitting three thirty who doesn't strike out at least reminds
Speaker 3: you of that type of hitter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say that I was not expecting Joan
Speaker 2: Doran to be this good in this role. I think
Speaker 2: Doran is probably the guy for me. I also think
Speaker 2: the other guy for me in a positive light is
Speaker 2: Nick Gordon. I was not expecting Nick Gordon have a
Speaker 2: seven to fifty ops And I thought Nick Gordon was
Speaker 2: a waste of a roster spot and they were out
Speaker 2: of options for him, so they were just holding him
Speaker 2: and there were better options elsewhere. No, Nick Gordon should
Speaker 2: be playing for a team that's good.
Speaker 3: Yes the way I looked at it. And there will
Speaker 3: be a reliever on this list. The only way I
Speaker 3: would put a reliever is if he was other worldly dominant.
Speaker 2: And Douran has been otherworldly dominant has he?
Speaker 3: Though, Like if you look at you know, some era leaderboards,
Speaker 3: you know he's over two and there are plenty of
Speaker 3: VRA guys who are under two. He has been phenomenal.
Speaker 3: He's been the best reliever in that pen. But I
Speaker 3: just didn't put him there because Luisa Rise hid three thirty.
Speaker 3: I don't think if I told you Luisa Rise would
Speaker 3: not only have the lease amount of shrike cuts in
Speaker 3: baseball and lead the league in batting average, not just
Speaker 3: the American League, but the entire sport. I think you
Speaker 3: would have been surprised over if I said, Yo, look
Speaker 3: at how good Joan Durant is and how nasty he is.
Speaker 3: Do you think he could be a really good reliever?
Speaker 3: I think you would have said, yes, That's kind of
Speaker 3: how I interpreted it in my mind. But you're also
Speaker 3: not wrong there with the Nick Gordon p and Joan
Speaker 3: duran has been surprising. He has been really good. I'm
Speaker 3: not trying to take anything away from him. That's just
Speaker 3: how I thought it.
Speaker 2: Another one, real quick on Minnesota. A guy that is
Speaker 2: surprising me negatively is Carlos Korea and arm and I
Speaker 2: had talked about that in a recent episode, but I
Speaker 2: was expecting Correa to be a lot better than he
Speaker 2: is this year. So that is surprising with a different
Speaker 2: definition than what we are using.
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to u brag, but do you remember
Speaker 3: what I.
Speaker 2: Don't don't brag Correa. You could still make the argument
Speaker 2: that Korea is more valuable in the long term than
Speaker 2: Corey Seeger, So you.
Speaker 3: Could who's having the better year.
Speaker 2: I will I will say that, Correa.
Speaker 3: Just Baseball Show listeners who've been listening to us for
Speaker 3: a while, you're hearing through the mic. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: I understand.
Speaker 3: Move on to the Cleveland Guardians. Andre Samenez. Yeah, clearly,
Speaker 3: this dude is one of the best second basemen in
Speaker 3: the entire sport. He's one of the fifteen best hitters
Speaker 3: in the sport. If we're looking at WRC plus this season,
Speaker 3: that park a just sat that we love so much.
Speaker 3: One hundred is league average, and he's got out like
Speaker 3: a one forty three. He's been forty three percent better
Speaker 3: than average. He has the same f war as Jose Altuve,
Speaker 3: the guy who everybody calls the best second basement in baseball.
Speaker 3: Andres Jmenez has been phenomenal.
Speaker 2: For the Guardians.
Speaker 3: If we're talking about best hitters on the Guardians, it's
Speaker 3: Jose Ramirez, then it's Andres Jmenez this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, honorable mention, Stephen Kwan, But Andres Semdez is the
Speaker 2: clear cut answer.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Let's move on to the your Chicago White Sox.
Speaker 3: This one was sort of challenging, but the more I
Speaker 3: looked into it, there was a clear answer here, and
Speaker 3: that's Johnny Cueto. I mean, you guys signed him as
Speaker 3: kind of an afterthought, and now he's the second best
Speaker 3: starter on the White Sox that we're looking at ERA,
Speaker 3: is Michael Kopek the second best starter on the White Sox. Yes,
Speaker 3: if we're looking at production ERA, he's second with an
Speaker 3: ERA under three, and he's third in f war among
Speaker 3: pitchers on the team.
Speaker 2: You know, I was.
Speaker 3: Even considering putting Dylan cease because the fact that he
Speaker 3: has a one to nine to eight ERA, he's been
Speaker 3: a top three pitcher for looking at that stat unbelievable.
Speaker 3: But I still gave it to Quato because if I said, hey,
Speaker 3: when the White Sox signed Jenny Quato, I bet you
Speaker 3: will have an R under three, you would have sent
Speaker 3: me off the podcast saying, dude, I don't know if
Speaker 3: you can actually talk baseball anymore. I mean, that's an
Speaker 3: asinine take.
Speaker 2: Correct. Yeah, I think my biggest surprise for the White
Speaker 2: Sox is Tony Laruso, the fact that he's still here.
Speaker 2: But aside from that, I think he did well with
Speaker 2: the Quato selection.
Speaker 3: What do we say at the beginning of this episode,
Speaker 3: We'll be nice, We need to burn some sage.
Speaker 2: We need to be nice. We need to be nice.
Speaker 3: Burn in the sage.
Speaker 2: Do I have to be nice to Tony Larusa, I'll
Speaker 2: give you a pass.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 2: I mean, ugh, yeah, I'm with the Quato has been good. Copeck.
Speaker 2: The beginning of his year was surprising. He is ticked
Speaker 2: down in recent months, and that's probably why he's not
Speaker 2: the biggest surprise right now. Cease I think everybody knew
Speaker 2: that Dylancy's had this in him.
Speaker 3: We did, and we talked about the beginning if we
Speaker 3: talked about cy Young odds like he was our dark horse.
Speaker 3: I mean yeah.
Speaker 2: And you know, we talked to Michael Fisher from Coda
Speaker 2: Fight during the offseason and I'm just asked, like, how
Speaker 2: good can Dylan CS be? And as soon as he
Speaker 2: just laughed at the question, I was like, Okay, there
Speaker 2: we go, We're good.
Speaker 3: Just one of the dirtiest pitchers in baseball. Yes, let's
Speaker 3: talk about another pitcher who's been much better than I
Speaker 3: think a lot of people thought this year, including myself.
Speaker 3: That's Brady Singer on the Ken City Royals. Most surprising
Speaker 3: player for the Royals is Brady Singer. Leads the Royals
Speaker 3: and starter e Ra. He's the clear leader in f War.
Speaker 3: I remember out of Florida, this guy had all the
Speaker 3: hype in the world. He falls to the middle of
Speaker 3: the first round. I loved him coming out of Florida.
Speaker 3: Then that bit me in the butt because he just
Speaker 3: was not consistent at all. Is that a lot due
Speaker 3: to maybe how the Royals have been developing pitching. I
Speaker 3: think you can give it to that, but he has
Speaker 3: been so good besides that, while no other pitcher in
Speaker 3: that rotation has really made that next step. I also
Speaker 3: thought an honorable mention this guy just went on the
Speaker 3: sixty day DL but through thirty six games, I mean,
Speaker 3: Edward Oliveris is sitting over three hundred. I don't even
Speaker 3: think anyone would thought that he would even play that well.
Speaker 3: But it is Brady Singer. I mean Brady Singer has
Speaker 3: been now that Ben Attende's gone, the most valuable player
Speaker 3: on this team this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is Singer. And I think you know, I
Speaker 2: was sitting here at the beginning of the year saying
Speaker 2: the jury might be in on Brady Singer, like he
Speaker 2: might just be a swingman guy. He might not be
Speaker 2: a successful major League starter, and he really struggled in
Speaker 2: April too. He was full blown bad. He had three
Speaker 2: appearances all out of the bullpen, and he allowed what
Speaker 2: four runs in five and two thirds innings, Like it
Speaker 2: wasn't good. It felt like, Oh, this is a guy
Speaker 2: that's just gonna be yeah, a whole will hum relief pitcher.
Speaker 2: And then he puts together nineteen and two thirds innings,
Speaker 2: a three run ball in May post All Star break,
Speaker 2: four starts, twenty six and the third innings six earned runs,
Speaker 2: thirty one punchouts, four walks. He's striking guys out. He's
Speaker 2: not walking guys. That was the thing with Singer when
Speaker 2: dudes weren't hitting him around the ballpark, he was walking
Speaker 2: everybody into oblivion. He's not walked anybody into oblivion over
Speaker 2: his last you know, ten starts. That is a massive
Speaker 2: change for the better for Brady Singer. And I think
Speaker 2: that he can use this positive energy, in this confidence
Speaker 2: boost to parlay it into a really good twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: I absolutely agree.
Speaker 3: Let's move on to the Detroit Tigers, and the Tigers
Speaker 3: are very challenging because nobody on offense has been surprisingly good.
Speaker 3: So you just have to look at pitching. You could
Speaker 3: say Trek Scooble, but I think everyone expected Terrek Scooble
Speaker 3: to take that next step. I think we expected Casey
Speaker 3: Miz to possibly take that step. Arms certainly didn't. I
Speaker 3: was kind of in the middle, and you were very
Speaker 3: pro but I was more on your side because I
Speaker 3: did believe what I saw at Auburn as you did
Speaker 3: as well. Just the most disgusting splitter in the world,
Speaker 3: kind of similar to you know, wrote Don in college
Speaker 3: as well. Just had the fastball and just had the
Speaker 3: other worldly breaking ball. So I guess I kind of
Speaker 3: took a cheap option here because Alex Lang has been
Speaker 3: one of the better relievers in their pen, and I
Speaker 3: know I kind of cheated with relievers, but considering how
Speaker 3: much better he got, he lowered his ERA by a
Speaker 3: full run, and he's striking out almost twelve guys per
Speaker 3: nine innings, I guess I was surprised that I wasn't
Speaker 3: really surprised by Fulmer. I wasn't really surprised by Gregor Risoto.
Speaker 3: I wasn't really surprised that much by Jojamenez. Maybe that
Speaker 3: could have been the answer here, but this guy, Alex Lang,
Speaker 3: I barely ever heard of him, and now he's one
Speaker 3: of the better relievers in one of the better pens
Speaker 3: in baseball. I went with him, but I'm not sold
Speaker 3: on it, Like, if you have another one, give it
Speaker 3: to me, because I went through a bunch of options,
Speaker 3: and I just thought, I mean, that surprised me the most.
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean he is the most surprising.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's Schooble for me, Like I didn't
Speaker 2: expect him to really turn into a front line guy.
Speaker 2: I thought he was gonna be a three, and he
Speaker 2: doesn't look like a one, but he looks like he
Speaker 2: can be a serviceable two. And that's what I thought.
Speaker 3: That difference, Like we thought he could be a good three,
Speaker 3: but he turned into a serviceable two.
Speaker 2: I wasn't like that.
Speaker 3: But again, that's yeah, I don't disagree with you at all.
Speaker 2: I think I was just assuming that he was going
Speaker 2: to be another victim of Tiger's starting pitching going to shit.
Speaker 2: I mean, like everybody Schooble's on the fifteen day, Brisky's
Speaker 2: on the fifteen day, Fayato is down in triple Pineda's
Speaker 2: on the fifteen day. I rod, I don't know if
Speaker 2: he has I don't know what's going on with him
Speaker 2: or any updates. Miz is a TJ guy. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's incredible. So I thought that Schooble was going to
Speaker 2: be just another victim. Here's what I will say about
Speaker 2: the Tigers starting pitching situation. Scooball has proven that he
Speaker 2: is a piece in the rotation moving forward. I think
Speaker 2: Matt Manning is proving that he is a piece in
Speaker 2: the rotation moving forward.
Speaker 3: I don't think you're wrong there.
Speaker 2: I saw Manning finish a rehab assignment and he threw
Speaker 2: six innings of shutout ball. I was mightily impressed by
Speaker 2: Matt Manning. He comes up his first start back of
Speaker 2: the Tigers off of injury. He's really impressive. I think
Speaker 2: he figured out how to work off that high spin fastball.
Speaker 2: I think Manning has something left in the tank, and
Speaker 2: I think that he can really be a piece in
Speaker 2: the Tigers rotation moving forward.
Speaker 3: I also don't think Alex Fyodo is that bad.
Speaker 2: I like I like Fayoto, and I like bo Brisky too.
Speaker 3: I agree. I think there's your five when you add
Speaker 3: an erod and that's not that bad.
Speaker 2: It's not good, it's not very good.
Speaker 3: That's okay. Let's move off the Detroit Tigers, who cannot
Speaker 3: hit lowist ops and baseball against righties, a shot Tigers.
Speaker 3: Let's move on to the Al East with the Yankees.
Speaker 3: You could go with Jose Travino at catcher. You could
Speaker 3: go with nessor Cortez Junior at starting pitcher. But you
Speaker 3: know the one that I came to that I feel
Speaker 3: like it's going to be obvious when I say it,
Speaker 3: it's Matt Carpenter. Matt Carpenter is fifth on the Yankees
Speaker 3: in home runs, with about two hundred less played appearances
Speaker 3: than everybody else, fifteen bombs. He's even played some outfield
Speaker 3: for the Yankees. Granted, not good in the outfield, but
Speaker 3: did anyone expect when the Cardinals let him go for
Speaker 3: nothing that he would come to Yankee Stadium and hit
Speaker 3: third consistently in one of the best lineups in the
Speaker 3: sport and deserve to hit third. He fractured his foot.
Speaker 3: He had a foul ball off his foot a couple
Speaker 3: of days ago. Hopefully he's going to be back for October.
Speaker 3: That's a huge blow for the Yankees. You could see
Speaker 3: that in Yankee fandom, see that on Twitter. If Matt
Speaker 3: Carpenter goes down and it causes that sort of uproar.
Speaker 3: That's the most surprising player on the.
Speaker 2: Yankees to me. I just think it's so funny that
Speaker 2: like Carpenter came in with zero expectations and did exactly
Speaker 2: what the Yankees wanted Joey Gallo to do. With all
Speaker 2: the expectations in the world.
Speaker 3: Matt Carpenter exceeded every single expectation that I think Joey
Speaker 3: Gallo came over with. I think Yankee fans all knew
Speaker 3: he was a two hundred hitter always. Matt Carpenter had
Speaker 3: an ops over a million for a little while. I mean,
Speaker 3: and to not even be hyperbolic and say a million,
Speaker 3: like it was at fourteen hundred and fifteen hundred. At
Speaker 3: some points, there was a stretch where he was the
Speaker 3: best overall hitter in baseball. There was no point on
Speaker 3: the Cardinals he was the best overall hitter in baseball.
Speaker 3: That was one of the best stretches he's ever had
Speaker 3: in his career.
Speaker 2: His mustache is also hilarious, unreal full, It's so funny,
Speaker 2: like Nestor. Nestor's got a good one, but Carpenter was like,
Speaker 2: that's cute.
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly. Yeah, he almost looks like a cartoon you know,
Speaker 3: he looks like a cartoon character. Are you give me that?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: You're more well versed in in everything else except baseball
Speaker 3: than I am. Who is that? I feel like such
Speaker 3: an idiot? You know? You know that bunny that like
Speaker 3: gets shot by the cartoons? You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: Fucking don't look at me like that like I'm an idiot.
Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2: No, not really, you.
Speaker 3: Don't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: What I was thinking was where he gets.
Speaker 3: Killed or the hunter goes around like shooting with a shotgun.
Speaker 3: Bugs Bunny, Bugs Bunny, Right, doesn't he get shot by
Speaker 3: like a hunter? Sometimes?
Speaker 2: I don't know that might have happened like once in
Speaker 2: the history of like bugs Bunny.
Speaker 3: And okay, maybe someone someone tig us on Twitter tomorrow
Speaker 3: and let me know what I'm trying.
Speaker 2: I was thinking, have you ever seen the SpongeBob SquarePants movie. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so when they're when they're walking around with the kelt
Speaker 2: mustaches and they run into Dennis and he's like, this
Speaker 2: is what a real mustache looks like. And he pulls
Speaker 2: down the bandana just spawns a mustache.
Speaker 3: That's that's a better comparison. There we go. Let's move
Speaker 3: on to the Blue Jays, who this player could also
Speaker 3: be deemed as a cartoon character. But he's so good
Speaker 3: the Blue Jays. I'm going with Alejandro Kirk. Yes, did
Speaker 3: anyone expect five eight, two hundred and seventy pound Alejandro
Speaker 3: Kirk lead the Blue Jays in f war to walk
Speaker 3: more than he strikes out, to hit over three hundred.
Speaker 3: When you have Vladimir Guerrero, Junior, Bobaschett, Ti, Oscar Hernandez,
Speaker 3: the crew, and Alejandro Kirk pinch hits when he's not
Speaker 3: catching sometimes when they just need a hit, they don't
Speaker 3: care about blitz. This is the best hitter on the
Speaker 3: team this year. Alejandro Kirk is easily the most surprising
Speaker 3: player on the Blue Jays.
Speaker 2: Yes, easily, easily easily. A guy that I do want
Speaker 2: to just shout out is Santiago Espinal, and Espinal has
Speaker 2: really struggled over the last month or so, to the
Speaker 2: point where his OPS is below seven hundred. But what
Speaker 2: Espinal has done turning into an everyday player for the
Speaker 2: Toronto Blue Jays and forcing Cavin Bigio out of an
Speaker 2: everyday spot is really really impressive, and nobody saw that
Speaker 2: coming from a million miles away. I think people saw
Speaker 2: a starting catcher in Kirk. They didn't see best catcher
Speaker 2: in baseball this year in Alejandro Kirk.
Speaker 3: Think about this, Gabriel Moreno is now expendable. Yes, because
Speaker 3: of Alejandro Kirk. Gabriel Moreno came into this year as
Speaker 3: a top ten prospect and now Blue Jays fans are thinking,
Speaker 3: what can we get for this guy? I mean this,
Speaker 3: look at what Adli Riutchman has been doing. GiB him.
Speaker 3: Reno is not to that point yet because he's not
Speaker 3: twenty four years old, but he wasn't as far down
Speaker 3: regarded as a guy like Adley Rutchman. That's how good
Speaker 3: this guy is. And now you think to yourself, we
Speaker 3: don't even need him. That's how good Alejandro Kirk has been.
Speaker 3: To move on to the Rays, raise again, tough one,
Speaker 3: but I went with overall the war leader on their team,
Speaker 3: because if I think I told you that Yond Diaz
Speaker 3: would lead the Rays in f war this season, you
Speaker 3: would say you're crazy. But Yandy Diaz has been the
Speaker 3: most surprising player for the Tampa Rays. He walks more
Speaker 3: than he strikes out and he's second in WRC plus
Speaker 3: on his team. The power output is not there, but
Speaker 3: the hard hit rate is there. He has a lot
Speaker 3: of doubles in the gaps. He's just a low liner
Speaker 3: hitter and been over all the leadoff hitter for the
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay Rays and one of the best players on
Speaker 3: their team this season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yandi Diaz is a good one.
Speaker 3: I also like Harold Ramirez for this, but he's That's
Speaker 3: the only reason I was like, you know, Yanni Diaz
Speaker 3: has just been that dude this entire season, But Harold
Speaker 3: Ramirez is one b in this in this conversation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And to be honest, I was kind of shocked
Speaker 2: that Shane McClanahan turned himself into a cy young front runner.
Speaker 2: I like, I loved Shane last year and in twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: I was fully aboard the Shane McClanahan hype train. But
Speaker 2: the reason you bought a hype train is because you're
Speaker 2: not entirely, like one hundred percent sold that this guy
Speaker 2: is going to become that you're sold that he's going
Speaker 2: to be really good, but you've got your fingers crossed
Speaker 2: and you're hoping that he becomes the cy Young Award winner.
Speaker 2: Shane McClanahan could be the cy Young Award winner this year.
Speaker 2: I'm so thrilled to see that. But yeah, in terms
Speaker 2: of like overall surprise, like baseline expectation, what they have
Speaker 2: done this year in terms of results, I think it's
Speaker 2: Yandi Diaz and Harold Ramirez over Shane McClanahan because the
Speaker 2: bar was already set high for mclann.
Speaker 3: The only reason I didn't really consider Shane McClanahan is
Speaker 3: who told me that he was going to be elite
Speaker 3: the guy I'm talking to right now. So that's kind
Speaker 3: of the reason I didn't do it. Because this is
Speaker 3: also surprising to us. Maybe not. We're giving the best
Speaker 3: answers of who has truly been the most surprising, because
Speaker 3: I think over the greater baseball audience, is Shane McClanahan
Speaker 3: taking the jump to CY Young Award winner Best left
Speaker 3: tenant pitcher in baseball probably the most surprising. Yes, But
Speaker 3: who told me last year watch out for this guy
Speaker 3: as he's going to be one of the better pitchers
Speaker 3: in the American League East. That's mister Jack mcmonu.
Speaker 2: He's a lefty that is a beat different with his
Speaker 2: release that gets insane extension down the mound, and I
Speaker 2: mean high spin fastball, snaps off a curveball and a
Speaker 2: breaking ball, and he's got that disgusting changeup like the
Speaker 2: world was mcclanahan's oyster. If he stopped dealing with command
Speaker 2: issues and he's walking one and a half guys for nine,
Speaker 2: he's incredible.
Speaker 3: Enough, said let's move on to the Orioles. Here's where
Speaker 3: I brought a reliever, because you could go with a
Speaker 3: lot of different options. You know, I considered Jorge Mateo
Speaker 3: for how good he's been on defense, along with the
Speaker 3: fact that he has twenty six dolen bases and eleven
Speaker 3: home runs. But an eighty three WRC plus kind of
Speaker 3: took me back, and they're like, Okay, well, maybe he's
Speaker 3: just not that good of it, or maybe it's not
Speaker 3: that surprising. Felix Bautista is the answer here in my opinion.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is what I'm talking about when I'm
Speaker 3: talking about other worldly domination. Edwin Diaz gets a lot
Speaker 3: of shine for being the best reliever in baseball, and
Speaker 3: deservedly so. Emanuel class A is a strong number two there,
Speaker 3: but you can make the argument Felix Batista has been
Speaker 3: a top five reliever in baseball this year. One six'
Speaker 3: nine era is incredibly. Impressive the fact that he strikes
Speaker 3: out every single, player the fact that he throws one,
Speaker 3: hundred the fact that he's got the one of the
Speaker 3: nastiest splitters that could be considered one of the best
Speaker 3: overall pitches in. Baseball but there's a stat THAT i
Speaker 3: found incredibly fascinating is the ninety two point five percent
Speaker 3: left on base. Percentage that is. Studley he comes in
Speaker 3: in big spots and shuts it the fuck. Down that's
Speaker 3: the sign of an elite. Reliever he can close games
Speaker 3: now That Jorge lopez has, gone but at the same,
Speaker 3: time he can come in in the seventh, inning bases,
Speaker 3: loaded no out and get you out of jams with.
Speaker 3: Strikeout incredible. Stuff Felix bautista is a name to know
Speaker 3: in The American League east that's filled with great.
Speaker 2: Relievers Felix bautista is listed at six,' five. One ninety
Speaker 2: he's not one, non accurate. Not accurate let the big.
Speaker 2: Dog eat bautista is, a big big boy that can
Speaker 2: move some serious weight that is one hundred on a
Speaker 2: bee line and then it's a nasty splitter that drops off.
Speaker 2: That axis it. Is Incredible What felix bautista?
Speaker 3: Last one? Another RELIEVER so I guess i did cheat
Speaker 3: MORE than I thought. I did for, SOME reason I
Speaker 3: thought i didn't add a bunch, of relievers but Always
Speaker 3: got who's been surprising On The red sox? This, Year
Speaker 3: people i'm asking you, the listener who You knew devers?
Speaker 3: Was great HE. Knew jd bogart's probably more surprised of
Speaker 3: the players who have not performed Like a. DUGO or,
Speaker 3: i mean you could Even throw trevor's story. In there,
Speaker 3: You know kik has not been the player since. He
Speaker 3: returned evaldi has just been. Way worse, you know we
Speaker 3: All Knew garret whitlock, was good but it's Not Like
Speaker 3: garrett whitlock has taken this enormous. Leap FORWARD so i
Speaker 3: went with the guy who should have Been An. All
Speaker 3: Star john schreiber leads the team IN e r at
Speaker 3: one point. EIGHT eight i don't have much else to
Speaker 3: say in terms. Of production he's almost been as Good As.
Speaker 3: Felix bautista but there's a clear eye test there where
Speaker 3: You See felix bautista pumping one hundred and You See
Speaker 3: john schreber in the, mid nineties but still production, based
Speaker 3: Matters And john schreiber has been a bright spot in
Speaker 3: An other HOW do i Describe The red socks just straight? Up,
Speaker 3: DISAPPOINTING yeah i, mean? Underwhelming, underperforming yeah When The baltimore
Speaker 3: orioles clear you, In, everything.
Speaker 2: Yes there's, A, problem yes. All RIGHT should I Move
Speaker 2: nl WEST To nl EAST or NLST To, nl west
Speaker 2: do whatever.
Speaker 3: You want i'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna, go Okay so i'm gonna GO N l EAST To,
Speaker 2: nl West but i'm gonna switch it Up to i'm
Speaker 2: gonna go bottom of the. Division Up so i'm gonna
Speaker 2: work from the bottom dweller to the team that is leading.
Speaker 2: The division so we're spicing things up a, little bit
Speaker 2: starting IN The nl east With. The nats, For me
Speaker 2: i'm cheating. Right away i'm going with a guy that
Speaker 2: has been, super UNDERWHELMING because i don't think there's anybody
Speaker 2: you know worth really noting in a positive Light. With washington,
Speaker 2: For Me victor roblaze has been the most. SURPRISING guy
Speaker 2: i just didn't know it was possible for a guy.
Speaker 3: With those tools to be. This brutal.
Speaker 2: Who ELSE do i gonna Say Like. PATRICK corbyn i
Speaker 2: just love how you cheated immediately With the.
Speaker 3: That's how bad.
Speaker 2: They've been there's nothing positive to say about. This Team
Speaker 2: josh bell would have been, my Answer but bell's.
Speaker 3: A padre how, ABOUT this i have. A guy, I
Speaker 3: Mean luis garcia has been. Pretty good, YOU know i
Speaker 3: don't know this that's in front.
Speaker 2: Of Me louis garcia has A seven o. Six Ops
Speaker 2: luis garcia in fifty. Nine, games okay he has a.
Speaker 2: Two hundred he has two hundred and thirty three, plate appearances.
Speaker 3: Three walks or. Being nice it's. IN comble, i mean
Speaker 3: it's hard over guess about. This team just do it
Speaker 3: over again It But, luis garcia just for the just
Speaker 3: for just where's? Your sage where? IS it i didn't
Speaker 3: see ship, being.
Speaker 2: LIT dude i. Don't Know luke void is seven for
Speaker 2: twenty in his first six games as, A national So It's.
Speaker 2: Luke void you Know THEIR triple a Team in rochester
Speaker 2: has lost eighteen. Straight games, oh see you Got the
Speaker 2: nats going on. Up there you have this Influx IN
Speaker 2: triple A With david DALL with I. Like, CJ abrams
Speaker 2: i Mean like. Abrams Fire but rochester's lost eighteen games in.
Speaker 3: A row Why is abrams not playing right now For.
Speaker 3: THE nationals i.
Speaker 2: Don't know i've got.
Speaker 3: No idea it's just probably because They Have.
Speaker 2: Luis, GARCIA yeah i, think so in his three walks
Speaker 2: for every two hundred and thirty three. Played appearances next
Speaker 2: for me Is the marlins are even like, Walks, THOUGH
Speaker 2: yeah i don't, like walks but when You.
Speaker 3: Love, luis Garcia like twaity does it walk, And, everything
Speaker 3: dude you luck your way into like ten walks in
Speaker 3: two hundred. PLATE appearances i really feel like you can
Speaker 3: just luck your way into a five for cent, Walk
Speaker 3: right and he's sitting here with like a point one
Speaker 3: percent walk Right. The marlins, for Me It's braxton GARRETT
Speaker 3: because i think a lot of THESE bats i was
Speaker 3: expecting to, Be Good, LIKE jazz i was expecting to.
Speaker 2: Be good he's been hampered. By Injuries, GARRETT cooper i
Speaker 2: think we've always known that he was a. Good bat
Speaker 2: he's just kind of made A Glass. BRAXTON garrett i
Speaker 2: was not expecting a four era out, of him. Straight Up, And,
Speaker 2: sandy yeah best picture on, The planet Sandy. Al contra
Speaker 2: but we all Knew that sandy had that potential going into,
Speaker 2: this year it was a. Real possibility he's just turned
Speaker 2: it On And pablo lopez is actually worse than he was,
Speaker 2: last year so, for me the pickens. WERE slim i
Speaker 2: Went With.
Speaker 3: Braxton garrett i'm glad you brought him up because ARM
Speaker 3: and i were talking about top three rotations in, three
Speaker 3: years and, you know we Were, talking sandy We're talking
Speaker 3: pablo if he, Stays Talking, max meyer talking To, hayeses
Speaker 3: Zarto Talking, edward cabrera possibly even, six though whatever happens.
Speaker 3: With him but we didn't Talk About. BRAXTON garrett i
Speaker 3: remember listening, back, thinking oh that was a boof, by
Speaker 3: US because i remember another boof we had was when
Speaker 3: we were talking About the cardinals playoff rotation and we
Speaker 3: just forgot To add michael's. In there for.
Speaker 2: No reason the way allowed, fourteen hits and, last night.
Speaker 3: Yes, did that but he had a negative twenty nine.
Speaker 3: Fantasy Score klay snowden brought that. To us he said
Speaker 3: he's never seen. It before fourteen to ten and Runs. In.
Speaker 3: Colorado incredible that sixteen to five win By the. Rockets
Speaker 3: Unbelievable But braxton garrett deserves some. LOVE here i wonder
Speaker 3: if he's going to factor in because he was one
Speaker 3: of their better. Pitching prospects you don't.
Speaker 2: THINK so i don't think he WILL because i think
Speaker 2: like this is as, he performs like he's a four,
Speaker 2: era GUY and i think they have a bunch of
Speaker 2: guys in the, low threes like that's. THEIR potential i
Speaker 2: just don't think he's one of the five or six
Speaker 2: most talented arms For.
Speaker 3: The marlins marlins have a really good, rotation though so
Speaker 3: maybe he gets packaged in a deal like he's a big.
Speaker 2: LEAGUE pitcher i think he's a Big league he's a big.
Speaker 3: League starter he is a big league like he's he'd
Speaker 3: be the ace On.
Speaker 2: The, nationals, yeah, yes, yes, yes, Yes Yes josiah gray better.
Speaker 3: Than him he's he's he's a. Turkey tosser, Right now
Speaker 3: you seen the amount of home runs this dude gives
Speaker 3: up on a daily basis.
Speaker 2: Is WEIRD like i can't Stand the nationals.
Speaker 3: Can't stand there big League Roster nelson Cruz And luke
Speaker 3: foyd are the three, four.
Speaker 2: HITTERS dude, I Mean paulo espino's getting starts all the time.
Speaker 2: For them who Is This erasmo ramirez is playing. For
Speaker 2: them when did? This happen he's appeared in forty one
Speaker 2: games For. The, nats dude what has.
Speaker 3: He been alright? This year WHY do i have a
Speaker 3: feeling he's got a THREE six? Era, right yes.
Speaker 2: SEVEN innings i.
Speaker 3: Saw him i've seen HIM, because i, you know sometimes
Speaker 3: my betting On, THE nationals i see him come in
Speaker 3: and he always seems to.
Speaker 2: Get outs is he always a?
Speaker 3: Getting? Outs? Yes dude Who Is?
Speaker 2: Andre's machado i've never seen this. NAME before i could
Speaker 2: click around major. Ly rosters there was a, guy, that
Speaker 2: uh there was a Guy that oakland ran OUT and
Speaker 2: I Texted Klay Snowden. Deremy scarcia he was like the
Speaker 2: EIGHT HITTING dh a couple of. DAYS ago i, was
Speaker 2: like it's really hard to sneak a major league guy
Speaker 2: by Me And jeremy scarcia is a GUY that i
Speaker 2: had never heard of.
Speaker 3: Before the same thing happened with Me And, jonah bride
Speaker 3: who now hits lead off For The. OAKLAND age I
Speaker 3: think i looked at a picture of him when they brought,
Speaker 3: him up and when he, WAS hitting i, was like wait,
Speaker 3: A minute i actually have never heard of you in.
Speaker 3: My life there's Often where i've, YOU know i see
Speaker 3: a player and, it's, LIKE oh i remember you as, A,
Speaker 3: Prospector oh i've maybe seen, you before but IT'S like
Speaker 3: i don't really know anything. ABOUT you i had Never
Speaker 3: Seen jonah bride in, my life never heard that name in. My,
Speaker 3: life dude.
Speaker 2: It's incredible, all right let's move To.
Speaker 3: The.
Speaker 2: Phillies here For, The phillies I've Got. Alec Bohm boom
Speaker 2: boom was brutal last year and the first month with,
Speaker 2: YOU know i fucking hate this. Place thing after he'd
Speaker 2: made a couple of airs in the, SAME game i
Speaker 2: thought he, was cooked and he has turned. It around
Speaker 2: he's a different HITTER than i think the one That the.
Speaker 2: Phillies Drafted But alec bohm is a serious piece For
Speaker 2: The philadelphia phillies right now and he has kept his
Speaker 2: spot when it felt like he was on the hot
Speaker 2: seat at the beginning of.
Speaker 3: THIS year i Love The alec bohm one because he
Speaker 3: should be. DOING this i think last year was this.
Speaker 3: Weird Anomaly alec bohm is better than what. He showed
Speaker 3: it was the third overall pick Out Of. Wichita state
Speaker 3: just hit every single level, weird season weird kind of
Speaker 3: beginning to, his career but should be that guy and
Speaker 3: is that guy the third hitter For the Phillies When
Speaker 3: bryce harper, comes back he's going to be the. Three
Speaker 3: Hitter But alec bohm absolutely. Deserves it ONE guy i
Speaker 3: want to, Shout Out Sir anthony dimingez in their pen.
Speaker 3: Is dirty he's got a one to five. To three
Speaker 3: the twenty seven year old has been the best reliever in,
Speaker 3: their pen one of the best relievers In The national league,
Speaker 3: this year and he's got a. Sick Name.
Speaker 2: Sir, anthony yeah that is pretty dope scry for. The brave,
Speaker 2: SO like i think the Answer Is, william contreras but
Speaker 2: it's hard for me to Not Say. Dansby swanson contreras
Speaker 2: is pumping out an eight eighty ops in fifty, eight
Speaker 2: Games but dansby putting this together in a contract year
Speaker 2: is crazy Because For, william contreras like we always knew
Speaker 2: that he had the potential to, be good he wasn't
Speaker 2: ever going to be. This Good, for dansby the track
Speaker 2: record was. Already set there was a large enough sample
Speaker 2: size To Judge, dansby swanson and now we're Looking At
Speaker 2: dansby swanson as a nine, figure SHORTSTOP which i don't
Speaker 2: think anybody was looking at him as before this. YEAR
Speaker 2: started i think you're totally spot.
Speaker 3: ON there i was thinking before you were going to
Speaker 3: Say That william contras should be, That guy but It
Speaker 3: Is dansby swanson NOW that i think. About it we
Speaker 3: pegged him as the barometer for average, shortstop play which
Speaker 3: is not an Indictment On. Danceby swanson it's representative of
Speaker 3: how good the short stop. Position is and at the,
Speaker 3: shortstop position he's the league leader and F War j
Speaker 3: wantson absolutely deserves to be the most. Surprising player but
Speaker 3: that's just, a, Wow dude you've really been a, top
Speaker 3: five top sixty shortstop this season and you deserve over
Speaker 3: one hundred. Million dollars good.
Speaker 2: For, you exactly so very similar to what we just Did,
Speaker 2: with atlanta Where Like william contreras butts For, The Mets
Speaker 2: adam montavino has been good as a nice bounced. Back
Speaker 2: YEAR but i would be lying to MYSELF if i
Speaker 2: didn't Say That edwin diz was. THE guy, i mean
Speaker 2: he's a. Freak azoid he finished Eighth In alcy young
Speaker 2: voting in twenty eighteen with it with a one NINE,
Speaker 2: six era a one to six TO, one fip fifteen
Speaker 2: point two STRIKEOUTS Per nighte that was twenty Eighteen. In seattle,
Speaker 2: this year he's up three strikeouts per nine to eighteen.
Speaker 2: Point one he's down sixty POINTS in era from one
Speaker 2: nine to six to about one three, to nine and
Speaker 2: he's literally CUT the fip. In half he's got a
Speaker 2: zero point EIGHT. TWO fip i Knew That edwin diaz was,
Speaker 2: really good but he has had some underwhelming years over
Speaker 2: the last couple but for him to bounce back in
Speaker 2: this nature and become the best reliever in all of
Speaker 2: baseball was surprising.
Speaker 3: For me surprising for, me too wasn't surprising the analytics
Speaker 3: community is taking their victory lap with a guy, like Him,
Speaker 3: like sierra those type, of stats, you know SUPER advanced,
Speaker 3: era indicators predictors of these sorts of, you know. PRODUCING stats,
Speaker 3: i mean they they all Thought That edwin diaz was
Speaker 3: still one of the best relief pitchers, in baseball just
Speaker 3: had some really bad luck in TERMS of, i mean
Speaker 3: the amount of guys he, strikes out he limits, hard
Speaker 3: contact wasn't. Walking anybody but at the, same time in
Speaker 3: the greater. Baseball sphere he was getting Booed At city field.
Speaker 3: Last year that was a. Reality there so the fact
Speaker 3: that now that went from booze to two winns to
Speaker 3: trumpets and when he steps on the field it's a
Speaker 3: Parade At city field is the biggest surprise For the mets.
Speaker 3: This season AT least i think you would say That for,
Speaker 3: mets fans he has been the. Big one another ONE
Speaker 3: that i do want to shut OUT because i was
Speaker 3: Talking To, chris longo who is of course A huge,
Speaker 3: mets fan shut out den. Of geek he says his
Speaker 3: biggest Surprise Was. David Peterson david pearson has really this
Speaker 3: tooken taken the step forward from fringe sixth. Guy two
Speaker 3: he's given them really great starts, this year transition more
Speaker 3: to a bullpen. Type ROLE but i think a Lot
Speaker 3: of mets fans thought this guy's on his, way out
Speaker 3: not on his way into being a valuable piece for. The.
Speaker 2: Team, Yeah no I'm with chris on that, One too
Speaker 2: but for ME. IT'S ds i mean him refinding this,
Speaker 2: was amazing? All right And al Central the cubs Clear Cut.
Speaker 2: Christopher morell morell came out of absolutely no way where
Speaker 2: he is a sleeper PICK For nl rookie Of. The
Speaker 2: year if something Happens to Atlanta and Strider and harris
Speaker 2: are both done for, the Season.
Speaker 3: It's MORRELL but i want to Shout Out, nico horner
Speaker 3: who's got a three war same, as one. So unreal there,
Speaker 3: We Go.
Speaker 2: Nico horner he was dealing with a bunch of. Injury
Speaker 2: concerns he has been an all, around Player but morell
Speaker 2: has been spectacular For. The pirates this. Was Tough If
Speaker 2: jose kintana was still on, THIS roster i would Have,
Speaker 2: Said kintana BUT now i Think It's. MICHAEL chavis i
Speaker 2: Didn't think jaevs would have been one of the best
Speaker 2: hitters on one of the worst offenses, in baseball but good.
Speaker 2: For him.
Speaker 3: It's interesting that You Said. MICHAEL chaevs i was going
Speaker 3: To Say mitch keller after all of his, like TERRIBLENESS
Speaker 3: but i think he was also a pitcher that we
Speaker 3: all thought would. Be better so THAT'S why i get
Speaker 3: why You said chaevus Instead Of. Mitch.
Speaker 2: Keller, y so ANOTHER reason i stayed Away From mitch
Speaker 2: keller was everybody was so high on him before the
Speaker 2: regular season started because of the. Broadband, videos yeah Because Of.
Speaker 2: Tred Athletics like tred was just pumping out Videos and
Speaker 2: mitch throwing one oh one. In bullpens but then when
Speaker 2: he sees major, league, hitters It's, oh god This Is mitch.
Speaker 2: Keller again it's it was very tough for me to
Speaker 2: Not Say. Mitch KELLER but i remember everybody thought that
Speaker 2: he was the second coming right before teams broke camp,
Speaker 2: This season.
Speaker 3: So that spot.
Speaker 2: Out, there yeah For the red's another bullpen guy AND.
Speaker 2: Another DS. Alexis ds nothing like a sub to era
Speaker 2: and an eleven and a half strikeouts. Per night drewy
Speaker 2: was the answer before he got dished Out To, san
Speaker 2: diego but It IS.
Speaker 3: Alexis Ds, jonathan india on the, other side has been
Speaker 3: just he was hurt for. SO long, I know, i
Speaker 3: know and he's better than he is and he's gonna
Speaker 3: be better. Next season just been a very disappointing sophomore
Speaker 3: year for a Guy Like, jonathan INDIA who i haven't
Speaker 3: expected to. Get, better yeah.
Speaker 2: Soft spot alert For. The Brewers keston hurra is my Guy.
Speaker 2: From milwaukee dude had such an incredible start to his
Speaker 2: career in, te nineteen tapered off in, twenty twenty was
Speaker 2: dealing with some hell to health issues in the family
Speaker 2: last year and was just dreadful when he was on.
Speaker 2: The field but he's bounced back. Big time played forty
Speaker 2: five games For, the brewers ten bombs and an eight.
Speaker 2: FORTY ops I think keston hero went from a guy
Speaker 2: that was destined to be A quadruple a guy after
Speaker 2: a couple bad years to having a consistent spot on
Speaker 2: the roster in the span of forty five games.
Speaker 3: This year i'm not Sure if bruce. Fans accepted first,
Speaker 3: OF all i think that's, The ANSWER but i Don't
Speaker 3: think bruise Fans expected Rowdy to les to be the.
Speaker 2: Three hitter he's got a what he's got like a
Speaker 2: seven to. NINETY ops i want, to say been very good.
Speaker 3: For, THEM yeah i don't know if they, expected THAT
Speaker 3: but I think i like your.
Speaker 2: Answer better just throwing another guy.
Speaker 3: Out.
Speaker 2: THERE thanks i appreciate you throwing another guy.
Speaker 3: Out.
Speaker 2: There YEAH and i also just like ANY chance i
Speaker 2: can spew Positivity about, Keston here i'm going to. Do
Speaker 2: it For. The Cardinals, brendan donovan Much, like morell Nobody
Speaker 2: thought donovan was going to factor into this. Team whatsoever
Speaker 2: but a FOUR hundred ovp seven to seventy ops with. Defensive,
Speaker 2: versatility nut he's.
Speaker 3: Been Better Than. Nolan. Gorman YEAH if i told You
Speaker 3: That brendan donovan before the beginning of, the season IF
Speaker 3: if i Told you cardinals fans that both of them
Speaker 3: would be Up And brendan donovan would actually be Better Than,
Speaker 3: nolan gorman you would have AGAIN said i shouldn't, talk
Speaker 3: BASEBALL said i should not be hosting, a podcast and
Speaker 3: yet here.
Speaker 1: We.
Speaker 2: ARE yeah i think they say that for other reasons
Speaker 2: that it Takes. The diamondbacks the Answer Is joe man
Speaker 2: Supply The. All star joe mant. To ply the other
Speaker 2: answer Is Probably. Merril kelly but the Answer Is joe
Speaker 2: Man Supply.
Speaker 3: ALL star i mean you?
Speaker 2: Kidding, me. Yeah Dude sick rockies was a tough, one because,
Speaker 2: Like obviously bard is. REALLY good i personally WENT. With
Speaker 2: cj cron twenty three dong, Seventy nine ribies two to
Speaker 2: eighty with a five. FOURTEEN slugging i know he did it.
Speaker 2: LAST year i didn't really think he was gonna do,
Speaker 2: it Again but crone did. It again, first one YOU'RE
Speaker 2: off i think it's a clear. One Here jose glaciers
Speaker 2: is hitting three. To sixteen did you?
Speaker 3: Expect that no fucking way you thought that.
Speaker 2: WAS gonna i Didn't expect.
Speaker 3: Iglaciers overall some OF the WRC plus i. Get it
Speaker 3: but he is hitting. THREE sixteen i don't think Anyone
Speaker 3: on earth could Have Said. Jose glaciers that would be
Speaker 3: my clear.
Speaker 2: Answer here let me find his slugging percentage, real quick.
Speaker 2: Dot good i'll tell you. Right Now jose glaciers uh
Speaker 2: is currently hitting three sixteen with a four to seventeen
Speaker 2: slugging At. Coors field do you know how hard it
Speaker 2: is to slug four to seventeen At?
Speaker 3: Cores field ryan McMahon just hit one four to seventy Eight.
Speaker 3: AT corsfield i didn't even know that was possible For.
Speaker 3: Oh no four.
Speaker 2: Ninety five here's, another, One Uh connor joe slugging three
Speaker 2: sixty Three. At corsfield that's really hard. To do it's hard.
Speaker 3: To Do jose glaciers with a four to sixteen slugging is.
Speaker 3: Not terrible please half his games on the road.
Speaker 2: Not awful, you're, right, yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Fair, okay uh next one For THE giants i Went With,
Speaker 2: wilmer flores the team's LEADER. In RBIs he's one Off
Speaker 2: of jock's. Leading bombs he's. Ripping it he's still playing
Speaker 2: all over. The Field the giants have been. Really disappointing
Speaker 2: you could make Cases For, luis gonzalez you could make
Speaker 2: Cases For, tyro Estrada but i'm gonna Go With wilmer
Speaker 2: FLORES because i thought he was totally over.
Speaker 3: The, HILL agreed i want a chance to just to
Speaker 3: talk about uh my GUY who i fell in love
Speaker 3: with in that, Last Postseason. Camello, devall yes there was
Speaker 3: a there was a lineup. With pitching ninja did THIS
Speaker 3: and i thought it was Awesome Watching ben joyce And
Speaker 3: from tennessee kid throwing one oh Five with dovall's. PITCHING mechanics,
Speaker 3: i mean he's one of the most entertaining pitchers to watch,
Speaker 3: IN baseball i. Really think so it's now one, oh
Speaker 3: one one oh two with absolute fuzz comes at you
Speaker 3: from this like, caridactyl mangle and he's just got a wipeout.
Speaker 3: Breaking ball he looks impossible. TO hit i Love watching.
Speaker 2: Novall, pitch yeah he you know he has been possible, to,
Speaker 2: hit though which has kind of caught me by surprise TO. Eighty,
Speaker 2: r YEAH like, I was i, was expecting like he
Speaker 2: just waltz is to a. Two, flat agree that's what
Speaker 2: kind Of stuff. Tillvall HAS so i actually think this
Speaker 2: year has been kind, of UNDERWHELMING but i think again
Speaker 2: that's because we set the bar so high. On him
Speaker 2: at the beginning of. THIS year i set.
Speaker 3: The bar one of my hot takes was that he
Speaker 3: was going to emerge as the best reliever in. The sport,
Speaker 3: SO yeah i set the bar. Cut high has performed
Speaker 3: very well and he's been much better. Lately too he
Speaker 3: got off to a rough start like his era was
Speaker 3: in THE fours i think a couple of, months ago
Speaker 3: but since then he has just. Been electric he.
Speaker 2: Is electric he is another guy with really high expectations
Speaker 2: once but the goalposts removed on him a couple of.
Speaker 2: Years ago my the most surprising Guy For san diego
Speaker 2: Has Been. Jerikson profar he's putting together his best full
Speaker 2: season since he was a twenty five year Old. In
Speaker 2: texas and, this was, you know the former number one prospect.
Speaker 2: In baseball he's twenty nine years old now obviously a
Speaker 2: shell of his prospect self never really achieved what everybody
Speaker 2: expected him to Achieve with texas and had a couple
Speaker 2: of fine Years In. San diego but now he's become
Speaker 2: an actually good player For the padres and looks like
Speaker 2: a guy that can be an everyday utility Guy For.
Speaker 2: San diego Jerks and profar is probably, The answer but
Speaker 2: the PLAYER that i was drawn To Was. Hasion, KIM
Speaker 2: yeah i was pretty surprised that he's really carved out
Speaker 2: a role here For. The padres kind of is another,
Speaker 2: utility type really, good defender has really filled a hole
Speaker 2: for them a Shortstop when tatis, went DOWN and i
Speaker 2: just didn't expect him to play as good as.
Speaker 3: He has that was. My ANSWER but I think Jerks,
Speaker 3: AND profar i mean he leads off for The, PODJ
Speaker 3: yeah i mean he, deserves IT and, I agree i
Speaker 3: was very surprised by how good he's been.
Speaker 2: To well but Kudos to kim for being thrusted last
Speaker 2: minute into an everyday shortstop role and helping this team
Speaker 2: not just swim but.
Speaker 3: Thrive exactly so Credit To.
Speaker 2: Hasan kim and then the last one For, The Dodgers,
Speaker 2: tyler anderson like what the hell is fifteen and one
Speaker 2: with a two seven TO. Two era he's got a sub,
Speaker 2: one whip. He's fixed opponents are slugging two seventeen against.
Speaker 2: His changeup nobody's touching that pitch because it's new and
Speaker 2: he is comical. This year dodger. Voodoo magic fuck you.
Speaker 3: Want to Hear more. Dodger voodoo How About Gavin lox
Speaker 3: looked like he couldn't throw the ball in, the infield
Speaker 3: look like, a bust and now he's one of the
Speaker 3: better hitters in the best lineup. In baseball How About
Speaker 3: Tony Gonsolin all star thirteen to one splitter. From Hell
Speaker 3: andrew heeney doesn't. Allow runs you can go into their
Speaker 3: bullpen and find three or four dudes that you've never
Speaker 3: heard of who. Blow Smoke cody bellinger has been better.
Speaker 3: This year. Dodger voodoo that's all we're going to say
Speaker 3: to end.
Speaker 2: The Pod evan phillips has a one four TO.
Speaker 3: Three era he should be. Their closer they should stop
Speaker 3: giving it to kimberrel to try and close out these
Speaker 3: Games When evan phillips is clearly a better reliever, right
Speaker 3: now Clearly.
Speaker 2: In vessia is a better Reliever than kimberl.
Speaker 3: To eight.
Speaker 2: Kimberl pissed me off so bad With The white sox
Speaker 2: last year because he came over said that he could
Speaker 2: pitch and other innings that weren't, the ninth and he
Speaker 2: could not pitch an innings that weren't, The ninth and
Speaker 2: even then it was a, stressful ninth.
Speaker 3: So stressful probably the most stressful ninth that you're really
Speaker 3: going to find among contenders, right now which is Crazy
Speaker 3: Because Los. Angeles dodgers but They get blake trying, back
Speaker 3: soon who's throwing ninety seven and. Rehab starts he'll be
Speaker 3: back in. Fifteen minutes he is going to remind you
Speaker 3: why he's one of the best relievers. In Baseball When
Speaker 3: walker bueler, comes back we may be talking about second
Speaker 3: place teams.
Speaker 2: Very, SOON yes i think. So too, all right you
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