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Speaker 2: Gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: What's up man? What finally you know we get a

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Speaker 6: In the group text. We didn't, we didn't signed up.

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Speaker 5: And these people are smart people and the way they

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And so what was probably one of the more

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Speaker 2: What's up.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it right now, let's.

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Speaker 2: Do it.

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Speaker 4: Competitive, let's do it. I'm not that competitive.

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Speaker 5: Come on, no, let's do it. Yeah, let's come on

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Speaker 4: I got an a club ring.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what, we all that I don't have

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Speaker 6: We cool with going out balling in front of seventy

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Speaker 6: And again you're holding each other accountable and no one

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Speaker 5: The thing I will talk about, though, is I'm bragging

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Speaker 1: How did you get that job? How did you work?

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Speaker 4: I never heard of him.

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Speaker 5: Well, on his interview, he crushed it, but I was

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Speaker 5: Uh, And it was just really cool to like, you know,

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Speaker 4: A great job of that.

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Speaker 5: But it's also like really cool because it was like, man,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, how have you How have you enjoyed doing

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Speaker 1: Like I can't look at the game and just say,

443
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Speaker 1: oh man, Tennessee. They couldn't stop the run. It's so generic,

444
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 1: water down, and so that's what I had to learn

445
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 1: how to do on live TV. But this is the killer.

446
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,199
Speaker 1: You'd be like, oh, all right, that's easy, you can

447
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 1: do that. You got to be concise.

448
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you got team games on the.

449
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Speaker 1: So bro we had to relearn how to learn again.

450
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Speaker 1: Yeah and so but by mid season I really caught

451
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Speaker 1: my stride. That went well, got them reps. Got the reps, man,

452
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,919
Speaker 1: It's all about getting the reps. They gave me more confidence,

453
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: you know. And every every week I'm tweaking the schedule

454
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 1: as far as timing and everything, trying to make sure

455
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Speaker 1: I'm ready for Saturday. Year two, which was this past

456
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,919
Speaker 1: year live TV. I still do it. Love it. I

457
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Speaker 1: love having my own show. So they were ESPN saw

458
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 1: fit to it. Hey, you want the opportunity to have

459
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 1: your own show, it will be called out of pocket.

460
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, it's not really my own show.

461
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: Then if you're telling me what it is, no but.

462
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 4: My name for my show, I.

463
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Speaker 1: Guess that's what happened. But nah, I was like, I'm down,

464
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 1: so get in. And it's a lifestyle reality, not a

465
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Speaker 1: reality but a lifestyle athletic sports show and myself a

466
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Speaker 1: listen Lane love of to Death. Like I knew she

467
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,919
Speaker 1: knew football just from looking at the network, but to

468
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 1: sit down with her, she went into depth detail and

469
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about like Mina Chhimes, like yeah, yeah, like

470
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Speaker 1: I respect Mena Chimes her analysis. So when I when

471
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Speaker 1: I sat down beside to listen Lang, I was like, man,

472
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: we hit it off. And I actually did my first

473
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Speaker 1: show with her, So that's what gave me a level

474
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Speaker 1: of comfortability too as well. But we hit it off.

475
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: We have it's almost the same as what we're doing

476
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 1: here on out of Pocket. Yeah, you know, we'll go

477
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 1: back and look at the weeks and see what players

478
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: probably got maybe got stiffed, armed or something. We make

479
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Speaker 1: fun in light of it to where it's not a

480
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: heavy football show, and then we have fun, we laugh,

481
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: but then also we have certain segments to where okay,

482
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: now let's look at this fourth and thirty one over

483
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Speaker 1: here and see what happened at Auburn and then why

484
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 1: they gave that up, you know what I mean. So

485
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: it's a good mixture, and for me, I thought it

486
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Speaker 1: was a perfect balance for me. So as far as

487
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Speaker 1: Live TV and the show, I have now love it man,

488
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Speaker 1: looking forward to doing it again.

489
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Speaker 4: We'll be back in a minute. What do you like

490
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 4: about the podcast versus TV?

491
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Speaker 2: For me?

492
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Speaker 6: When I brought I did some broadcasting with covering college

493
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Speaker 6: football as well. For me, I like the podcast because

494
00:23:55,080 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 6: it's even more authentic, right with our guests, with obviously

495
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 6: myself and to kill you get the real interaction right

496
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 6: so live TV when he broadcast in the studio, you

497
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 6: know the studio panel. Obviously in a game. When I

498
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 6: covered college football, you like the game. But if I'm

499
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Speaker 6: covering it the college the game, excuse me, and it's

500
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 6: a blowout going on, you get bored. So when he

501
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 6: was covering remember there were times we would text each

502
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Speaker 6: other when he was broadcasting with back another network and

503
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 6: I was covering ball, he just boring, man, you know

504
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 6: what I mean? As far as former athletes, we know

505
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 6: good football, but you see bad football kind of gotta

506
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 6: get charged up.

507
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Speaker 2: Well.

508
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Speaker 6: For me, the podcast with your guess, you always charged

509
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 6: up because there's always something that's always a nugget. There's

510
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 6: always now a clip that's going to go viral. It's

511
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 6: something that you're going to find out from your from

512
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 6: your guests that you're like, you know what, that's our

513
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Speaker 6: touchdown when he says it. In the back of our mind,

514
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 6: we was sitting there like, this is it?

515
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

516
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Speaker 4: We got it, we got goal and for me like that,

517
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 4: So is.

518
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Speaker 5: That the most gratifying part of the podcast for you

519
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 5: guys personally is like getting that clip like ooh that

520
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 5: was it? Is that the most gratifying or is it

521
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 5: just letting people tell their story or.

522
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 6: For me, it's letting people tell their story, right, because

523
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 6: you got guys like we had John Abraham. One haven't

524
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 6: heard from him for years, Jamal Lewis, people haven't heard

525
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 6: from him for years. Lt like Tequillo said Charles Barkley,

526
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 6: Eric Dickerson, some of the legends. Right, the most gratifying

527
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 6: part is when the the interview was over, the episode

528
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 6: is over, and they're like, you know what, I appreciated that.

529
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Speaker 6: I never would have had this conversation with anybody else.

530
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Speaker 6: But I felt like I was back in the locker room.

531
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Speaker 6: It felt good, It felt natural. It didn't feel like

532
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Speaker 6: an interview. Like the interview. It felt like I was

533
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 6: chopping it up with my boys, and I'm like Yo,

534
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 6: that's what it is. And we got guys that cry.

535
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 6: Kerry Hilson cried, John Hell, I cried, he cried, I cried,

536
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Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So when when you have

537
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Speaker 6: that authentic vulnerable space, but you still feel you find comfortable,

538
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Speaker 6: comfortability and being vulnerable amongst your peers, that's the most

539
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 6: gratifying part, you know what I mean, Because we're not

540
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,959
Speaker 6: going to take your story and spin it like some

541
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 6: media just to get a clip. No, no, no, We're going

542
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 6: to tell a story like you want it sold. Because

543
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 6: you're the author of your own autobiography. It's your narrative.

544
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 6: How you want it perceived, that's how it's going to

545
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:16,719
Speaker 6: be perceived.

546
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Speaker 7: So that rome literally across every every podcast I do

547
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Speaker 7: because I cried when I laugh, So every every podcast,

548
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 7: he cried, You do that all the time, all the time,

549
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 7: every episode, he cries.

550
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Speaker 4: I feel that it's.

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Speaker 6: Really you know, as we alpha males man, you know,

552
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Speaker 6: I don't want to you don't want to show your

553
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Speaker 6: vulnerability all the time because it's perceived as weakness.

554
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Speaker 7: I saw the John aram Uh podcast and that was

555
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Speaker 7: that was a powerful one.

556
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Speaker 2: It was real.

557
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Speaker 7: It was so real, and the whole suffering in silence,

558
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Speaker 7: and I I commend you too for giving him a

559
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 7: safe space and pouring into him and letting him pour

560
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 7: into y'all with with what he was going through at that.

561
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Speaker 5: Time, because when he said those things, it was just like,

562
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 5: what did I did?

563
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 7: I just hear that, right, And at the time, when

564
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 7: you know he was playing, he was that dude in

565
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Speaker 7: Atlanta and then.

566
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Speaker 5: I just remember him flamboyant, not flamboyant, but like very

567
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 5: bright tattoos.

568
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 4: You could just see it from the sideline.

569
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I just was I don't know, man, y'all y'all

570
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 7: did a hell of a job on that interview with him.

571
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Speaker 7: So I just want to say, Yo, that was that

572
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Speaker 7: was That was a dope interview.

573
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Speaker 1: Didn't even have any idea it was going to go

574
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: that way. That's that's the other part I like about

575
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: I love Live TV, but I also loved the podcast,

576
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: probably a little more because it's the unexpected, like we

577
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: had to shut down shop and you know, because this

578
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: dude here was just hard headed. Man, I feel something

579
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: fell a little tightness, you know, And after like a

580
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, he was like, hey, man, want you

581
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 1: just go get checked out?

582
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 3: Bro?

583
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: Now What he didn't say was he had a limp.

584
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: It was a lump, yeah, lump and is growing. We

585
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: kept myself callos him and it's got to a point,

586
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: what a year and a half later? Yeah, year, little

587
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: bit over year maybe he went to the doctor, found

588
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: out he had limph on and like it was wow.

589
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: It like totally can't curse on Hill, but you don't

590
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: want me to curse. I was stup, bro, Yeah, like

591
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: I was. When he called me.

592
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Speaker 2: I was like.

593
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Speaker 1: I couldn't even breathe, bro, and I keep it together,

594
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: kept it together for him, and uh, he actually knew

595
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: when we came out here we're not here. But at

596
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: Super Bowl last year, I was like you sure you

597
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: want to do this?

598
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, I wanted.

599
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Speaker 1: I got it. He was like I need to do

600
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Speaker 1: it because it was I was like, man, we just

601
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: don't have to do anything. But going back to the

602
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: storytelling to John Abraham, you know, to hear him share

603
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: his story on why he came out and decide to

604
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: do it, because this was a lot of people who

605
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: thought he's still close to them, but they felt offended

606
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: because he didn't tell anybody. He didn't want that emotional

607
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: trauma to follow him and so to be able to

608
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: look at what we do totality wise. That's what makes

609
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: me love doing the podcast sector so much, getting those

610
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: stories and him just being a man about it and

611
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: shedding light on it for all of us to know.

612
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: So that look, guys, man, I know we tough, and

613
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Speaker 1: I like to play dumb tough, and I listen, I'd

614
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: say it all, but at the end of the day,

615
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,719
Speaker 1: you got to get checked. You can't pour it from

616
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: no empty cup. And if you ain't right, ain't nobody

617
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: right preaching quote right there?

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Speaker 5: I mean, oh, man, you know he's from the South, bro.

619
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Speaker 5: So I see it feels like you guys have really

620
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 5: found your lane in this whole podcast space. And it

621
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 5: starts because you guys generally care about each other. Clearly

622
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 5: we can see that. And so as this thing continues

623
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 5: to roll down the Interstate Highway, how do you continue

624
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 5: to expand?

625
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 4: Like what is next?

626
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Speaker 5: And because I know that's how most of us are wired,

627
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 5: it's like, all right, once I get here, it's like,

628
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 5: you know, getting to the league was the goal. Then

629
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Speaker 5: when you get there, like how do I get to

630
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 5: a Pro Bowl? How do I get paid? Or how

631
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 5: do like what's the next And so as this lane

632
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 5: continues to roll on for you guys, I want to

633
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 5: know what's next in you guys's minds.

634
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Speaker 1: It's two part. I'll start first.

635
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Speaker 4: They started first.

636
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Speaker 1: Maybe because it was my idea. First stop crying, I will.

637
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: I think it's uh, you know, continue to make bigger

638
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: and meaningful sponsorships, to be able to become syndicated on

639
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: a bigger platform, to be able to leverage those partnerships

640
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: and do some meaningful things, have meaningful conversations as we

641
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: go around the country, you know. So for me, that's

642
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: the big thing is just making sure that we continue

643
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: to grow scale as much as we can, yeah, you know,

644
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: and you know, and everything else to take care of yourself.

645
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 6: From that part, yeah, And I think that the dopest

646
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 6: part is it's not just a podcast as a media

647
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 6: company behind the mass media. So from going to broadcast

648
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 6: boot camp, from getting our MBA's like all right to

649
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 6: your point earlier, anybody could do a podcast right on

650
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 6: the whole building, own the whole building, on your content,

651
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 6: as opposed to sitting there and saying, okay, we want

652
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 6: to just be on this platform. It's like, nah, you

653
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 6: know what this doesn't seem right, reill license it to you. Yeah,

654
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 6: you know you just not just gonna have our stuff

655
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 6: sitting up there, like like, let's make this a business

656
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 6: partnership with deal you. We're not going to work for you,

657
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 6: We'll work with you. And also telling continuing to tell

658
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 6: the stories, particularly from my guys right, because there's so

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Speaker 6: many people that tell us, like, you know what, I

660
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Speaker 6: didn't know you were going through that, but I appreciate

661
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Speaker 6: you talking about it because I was going through it too.

662
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 6: I had these same thoughts of what life after football

663
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Speaker 6: is like. I had these sating thoughts of you know,

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Speaker 6: possible suicide or I had something going on with my

665
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Speaker 6: health but I didn't check it. But because you checked

666
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 6: your health and you were vulnerable and shared that, I

667
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 6: went to the doctor too. So now I'm good. You

668
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Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, because again, like Takio said, a

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Speaker 6: year that was dumb freaking year. It took him and

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Speaker 6: call those cursing me out saying what he's wrong with?

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Speaker 2: You? Get your checked, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: And when I finally did and find out like something

673
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 6: was really going on, if it wasn't for my brothers

674
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Speaker 6: checking me, I probably stay it would have been another

675
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 6: year and then it went from as opposed to the

676
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 6: stage two, stage three or for you know what I mean.

677
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 6: So being that voice for the brotherhood, for the brothers

678
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Speaker 6: that feel like they don't have a voice, but they

679
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 6: got ears, they can still hear it, they can listen,

680
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 6: they can feel it, you know what I mean. Sometime

681
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 6: that resonates in wherever they're at in their lives. So

682
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Speaker 6: I think that's the thing for me. And I was

683
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 6: like to kill said, just continue to scale the business

684
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 6: and growing it as large as he possibly can and

685
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 6: taking it as far as this thing can go. I mean,

686
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 6: it's enough. It's enough if it's the money's the goal.

687
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 6: There's enough money out there for everybody. Like you said,

688
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Speaker 6: everybody's you know a lot of people are doing podcasts,

689
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 6: but Bro's it's you have a different story. You got

690
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 6: a different story. I have a different story. This guy's story.

691
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Speaker 6: He hated me because I was from New York until

692
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 6: he got cool and me he's like, I I like him.

693
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Speaker 6: It's a different story.

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Speaker 1: Trust casts from New York.

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Speaker 4: Growing up like nah, they talk too fast.

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Speaker 6: Yeah man, but yeah, man, just continue to share these stories.

697
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 6: I think that's the most important thing because otherwise, you know,

698
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 6: out for meals, were.

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Speaker 2: Holding it in. Yeah, we're not letting it out.

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Speaker 6: So we have a space where we can let it

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00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 6: out and be comfortable letting it out because we know

702
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 6: that we're not gonna judge each other. That's an amazing feeling.

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00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, so we're all four of us is a room

704
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 7: where that what top less than one percent?

705
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 2: To make it to the NFL.

706
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 7: We've had success on the field, success off the field.

707
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 7: Clearly you guys, bachelor's degrees, NBA's to us, to us

708
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 7: three over here, I want to.

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Speaker 5: That's a hard line right there, A hard line right there.

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Speaker 2: Dog.

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Speaker 7: What I really want to know is four people, of

712
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Speaker 7: around four people on Mount Rushmore? Who would you put

713
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Speaker 7: on that on? By four people? Who would you put

714
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Speaker 7: on Mount Rushmore? To help you get to where you

715
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Speaker 7: are right now? Two times you go first? My mother, Okay,

716
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 7: obviously that's my rock, my son.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because he's my first born and I knew when

718
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 6: I got to the league that was my motivation. I

719
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 6: say my grandmother because she told me when I was young.

720
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Speaker 6: I said, she said, what do you want to do?

721
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Speaker 6: I said, I don't want to go to the NFL.

722
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Speaker 6: Play football professionally, She's like, just do it. It's not

723
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 6: that easy, Grammy, just do it. You want to do it,

724
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Speaker 6: do it, And that stuck with me in terms of

725
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 6: how I approach life. I feel I can do anything

726
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 6: a girl because for me, my kids are the people

727
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Speaker 6: that to you to motivate me. So when I feel

728
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 6: like I want to give up, is like, nah, I

729
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 6: can't give up. When I feel like I this ain't

730
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 6: gonna be right now, you're doing it for something bigger

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Speaker 6: than yourself. So for me, it's it's family, you know.

732
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Speaker 6: I mean the shout out to every obvious coaches and

733
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Speaker 6: people that tell me along the lines, but definitely for

734
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Speaker 6: me my family.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it's somewhat of the same thing. Like I

736
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: get more specific, my mother, father, they my father introduced

737
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Speaker 1: me to the game. He's passed now. He introduced me

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Speaker 1: to the game, taught me how to be a man

739
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Speaker 1: and how to carry yourself. My mother like the all

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Speaker 1: the fire inside of me, Like I get it from her.

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Speaker 2: You know.

742
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Speaker 1: She calls it a controlled aggression.

743
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Speaker 2: I like that.

744
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: I like that, you know. So, uh, those two definitely

745
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Speaker 1: man for kind of carving me out into the man

746
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Speaker 1: who I am. I would also say my high school coach,

747
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Speaker 1: his entire staff, but him coming with the vision to

748
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Speaker 1: a small rural town and making you believe that you

749
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Speaker 1: can be whatever you want to achieve, and I him.

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Speaker 1: And then lastly I would say my daughter, you know,

751
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: love that the joker man love them. Yeah, Like she's

752
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: shown me it's a different side. It's like it's a

753
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: totally different side that always keeps me evolving. And I

754
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: feel like that's what keeps me young. Not saying that

755
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: I need more, but it's just you know how it

756
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: is dealing with women. You know, they just they be sometimes,

757
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: then they be here and then they love on you

758
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: and then you know, it's just a different mixed array

759
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: of emotions. But she's taught me how, like all right,

760
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: sit down and listen to it. It made me also

761
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: realize how much I probably didn't listen before her.

762
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Speaker 2: You know.

763
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Speaker 1: But we don't say this for the firecast, but out

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Speaker 1: of those four, those four people, they've been very instrumental,

765
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: so they would definitely be you on mind round Mountain Rushmore.

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Speaker 7: That's beautiful, fellas. We appreciate y'all man coming on the podcast.

767
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: This is dope, man.

768
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Speaker 4: This was kind of behind the mask.

769
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Speaker 1: It's just really behind the masks.

770
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Speaker 2: Man, we appreciate you having it too long enough for me,

771
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

772
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Man, we seen y'all last year.

773
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

774
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 5: We cross paths now, we were together. You know what

775
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 5: I'm saying. I appreciate it. That's it, man, I like it.

776
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: I like it.

777
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 5: So whenever y'all want us to come through like or

778
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 5: the NBA crew, I can't.

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00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 1: I'm going back.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna do it. I'm no cap, no

781
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Speaker 4: bullet like.

782
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 7: I'm like, wait all, y'allmost like Yo, I got a masters,

783
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 7: but I ain't got no mving like I'm thinking about room.

784
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep pouring into you. But

785
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 4: do it, man. I like that.

786
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 5: You're gonna be great. You're gonna be great. All right, man,

787
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 5: let's get about it here. Man, all of our listeners

788
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Speaker 5: and viewers, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 5: This has been another special one between two and Teqio. Man,

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Speaker 5: y'all go check come out at Behind the Mask. They

792
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 5: do great things on their pod man and you can

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Speaker 5: check them out on YouTube. They're on social media, Instagram

794
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Speaker 5: and all that other things, so y'all please go check

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Speaker 5: them out support man, because this is what this whole

796
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 5: thing is really is about us brothers as former NFL players,

797
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 5: this fraternity leaning on each other, love them one another,

798
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 5: understanding that these talks we got to continue to have them.

799
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 5: These are free spaces, open spaces to really open up

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Speaker 5: and can talk about these things that we normally don't

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00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 5: ever talk about. So thank you for that, Man, and

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Speaker 4: for that.

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Speaker 2: Magan.

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