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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where I'm like Michael Parsons, we

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Speaker 1: want to be here. I'm Greg Rosenthal. I'm with my

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Speaker 1: friend Nick Schuk. We will talk MICHAEH.

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Speaker 1: We will give you camp takeaways for all sixteen AFC teams.

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Speaker 1: But before we do that, just a little bit of housekeeping.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to announce, due to popular demand, the show

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean we got to pay like an

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Speaker 1: But we're working on it for some of these preseason

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Speaker 1: previous shows, which I'm really looking forward to. So let's

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Speaker 1: get to it. And I mentioned Parsons and it's an

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Speaker 1: AFC show. But since we last recorded, that's when the

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons trade request came in, and oh man, he

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Speaker 1: went full notesapp and if you're watching on YouTube, you'll

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Speaker 1: see just how long and then saying this post was

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Speaker 1: from Michaeh Parsons, But I gotta say, if you went

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Speaker 1: through all of it, it's really worthwhile. What Jerry Jones

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Speaker 1: on that Michaeh Parsons is one of the savviest business

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Speaker 1: out there and getting his opinion. Please take off all

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Speaker 1: that word salad now from the screen. It's given me

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Speaker 1: did paint a picture. Nick and I tend to believe

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Speaker 1: everything that Parsons said that Jerry Jones and Parsons got

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Speaker 1: the agent, the agent's like, no, you can't be trying

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Speaker 1: And that literally the cowboys haven't sent an actual offer

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Speaker 1: a peak behind the curtain about how a team that

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Speaker 1: think they're just gonna ignore it. But kind of bad

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Speaker 1: job by the Cowboys. I think it makes the Cowboys

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and an old school business person would say, well,

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Speaker 4: But I push back against that, just like Micah did.

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Speaker 4: Micah's a very long notes app post there read like

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Speaker 4: an impromptu press conference with himself because every time he

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Speaker 4: And let me tell you, I use the note sometimes

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Speaker 1: Look, I don't want to even get into the potential

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Speaker 1: The Bills don't make as much sense to me because

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Speaker 1: the Commanders would have to even just think just a

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys have shot this thing down so quickly. Jerry

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Speaker 2: It's negotiating.

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Speaker 1: I don't play really place that request with any real

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Speaker 1: that's nice, Micah. And meanwhile, Micah Parsons, even though he

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Speaker 1: since he put up that trade request. So as much

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Speaker 1: it's just hard not to imagine this just ending in

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Speaker 3: They are, and we all get tired of it.

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Speaker 4: But when you hear trade requests get submitted by star players,

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Speaker 4: and then effective salary cap space withtential suitors. None of

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Speaker 4: capital to acquire him in a trade. It's just not

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Speaker 4: was like, absolutely not. You're going to dedicate over eighty

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Speaker 4: but that's the way that this business operates. Miles Garrett

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Speaker 3: Michael gets it eventually.

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Speaker 1: But the biggest difference there is that was before you know,

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Speaker 1: bigger premium. You know who doesn't want to do this

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Speaker 1: trade The Dallas Cowboys who are trying to win in

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Speaker 1: They think about today, and that's what the Cowboys are

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Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin has like a four percent chance of getting traded,

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Speaker 1: I'm giving Micah Parsons about a point five. So let's

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Speaker 1: get into the notes, because we got a lot. Let's

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Speaker 2: For the first couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: He was out of practice on Sunday, and then kind

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Speaker 1: Are you are you now conducting a holding business? What

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Speaker 1: But it's a camp where a lot of guys have

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Speaker 3: No, it doesn't.

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Speaker 4: It takes away some of their power to, you know,

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Speaker 4: every time Brandon Beans talked about it, he's said, yes,

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Speaker 4: we would love to have him. He even spoke about this,

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Speaker 4: I think last week. We would love to have him

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Speaker 4: about piecing your puzzle together and figuring out where everything fits.

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Speaker 3: And let's face it, unless you're Saquon Barklay or.

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Speaker 3: He's mentioned that.

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Speaker 4: He's working on becoming a better and more reliable pass

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Speaker 4: dollar in, even if he has paced their ground game,

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Speaker 4: a ground game that was so bad before they changed

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Speaker 4: offensive coordinators that it was a massive achilles heel to

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Speaker 4: this team for many seasons. And yet I just don't

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Speaker 4: see them investing him long term. And this is probably

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Speaker 4: him because I like who he is as a running back,

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Speaker 4: I don't think he necessarily commands the dollars that he's

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Speaker 2: I love his style of running. I just just a slasher.

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Speaker 1: Look when you get the ball in his hands as

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Speaker 1: I know it's going to be a physical, run first team,

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Speaker 4: That's why when I wrote the Terry McLaurin landing spots,

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Speaker 4: I think you're gonna expect this from Justin Fields, to

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Speaker 1: It looks like he's probably gonna start over Tony Adams,

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Speaker 4: We should go to the research departments for that. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's probably gonna win that job.

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Speaker 1: There might be an Antoine Winfield junior senior really oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: The other thing that struck me there, I know we're

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Speaker 1: All the reporters were saying, like Wednesday's practice was the

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Speaker 3: Because you're young and rich.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, not surprised, but yeah, i'd be a little

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Speaker 1: You're getting younger, you know, you kind of have an

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the old broadcaster jinks.

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Speaker 4: because this is something that we've discussed multiple times over

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Speaker 4: the last few weeks just because it's been a battle

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Speaker 4: royale at the position. So it's nice as you get

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Speaker 4: close to your first preseason game that you're starting to

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Speaker 4: get an idea of it. And I think it'll go

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Speaker 4: a long way toward helping Drake May in his second year,

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Speaker 4: get on the same page as a lot of that group.

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Speaker 1: I hope Drake May hasn't been too careful too. Like

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Speaker 1: listening to him, it does seem like he's really trying

447
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Speaker 1: to avoid interceptions, and he said he doesn't want to

448
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Speaker 1: run as much, and I'm.

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Speaker 3: Like, oh, come on.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sort of like fast forwarding to year three

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Speaker 1: and then it's like, yeah, well, last year I kind

452
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Speaker 1: of learned I was being a little too safe, so

453
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Speaker 1: this year, I gotta let it rip, but I want

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Speaker 1: to run a little more, So let's not go through

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Speaker 1: that process.

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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray vibes there, be careful, You're.

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Speaker 1: Too talented for that. But supposedly he's looked really good.

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Speaker 1: Then again, he's going against a secondary without Christianunz. He's

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Speaker 1: still been out and Carlton Davis hasn't really practiced at

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Speaker 1: all since joining this team, which we're getting to the

461
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Speaker 1: point where it's starting to be a little concerning to me.

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Speaker 1: They have a guy DJ James, who was a sixth

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Speaker 1: round pick of the Seahawks last year, who was starting

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Speaker 1: and actually has supposedly looked good, but they're rather thin

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Speaker 1: at cornerback without those two guys. Also, Ramandre Stevenson, one

466
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Speaker 1: of the worst fumblers in all of football, fumbled during

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Speaker 1: that scrimmage in front of the crowd. So it's just like,

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Speaker 1: come on with Madre. Let's wrap up with the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: the AFC East. Here's a take. I threw this out

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Speaker 1: on Blue Sky. Quinn Ewers might have the most consistently

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Speaker 1: positive camp reports of any rookie quarterback from the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five class. Name me another rookie quarterback with more

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Speaker 1: consistently positive reports.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you can do it.

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Speaker 3: I mean I can't, but the bar is love.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we haven't got people kind of like what

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Speaker 1: Jalen Milro is doing lately with the third team. It's

478
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Speaker 1: getting better in Seattle. I don't know none of that,

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Speaker 1: none of the record so far.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I look, I know what when

481
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Speaker 4: you was did in college at Texas and everything else.

482
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Speaker 4: I did not like his combine workout and it'll be

483
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Speaker 4: burned in my brain forever. So if he's actually figuring

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Speaker 4: out in Miami, good for him.

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Speaker 1: But the bar is low right, and I always want

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Speaker 1: a credit where I'm like reading this stuff or hearing

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Speaker 1: this stuff. I saw a little bit of it in

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Speaker 1: the Palm Beach post three yards per carry, who I

489
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Speaker 1: gave a shout out to, and then they sent a

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Speaker 1: tweet out with my clip. If you do that, you're

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Speaker 1: always going to get mentioned. Absolutely. They just said he's

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Speaker 1: looked really good, that they think they might have found

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Speaker 1: something in Quinn yours and that he had a much

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Speaker 1: better week than Zach Wilson, and uh, that's just what

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Speaker 1: you hope. Can you find could you possibly find a

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Speaker 1: backup quarterback late in day three? That's that's a huge win.

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Speaker 1: Austin Jackson is there starting right tackle. He's going to

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Speaker 1: be out a few weeks, but Mike McDaniel did say

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Speaker 1: on Sunday that they're optimistic he will be ready to

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Speaker 1: start practicing basically after cutdown. That's when they target him

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Speaker 1: to return, so that'll give him about two weeks to

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Speaker 1: get ready.

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Speaker 2: So nothing major there.

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Speaker 1: Darren Waller, everyone we got all excited, you know about

505
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Speaker 1: his signing. He hasn't really practiced at all yet, so

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Speaker 1: it's kind of on my radar, Aaron Brewer. Their center

507
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Speaker 1: really hasn't practiced either. And then it's our weekly update

508
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Speaker 1: of Tyreek Hill saying things that kind of cracked me.

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Speaker 2: Up but also make you say hmmm.

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Speaker 1: He said this week Shook that he didn't ever really

511
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Speaker 1: he didn't really understand the Dolphins offense the last three years,

512
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Speaker 1: but the new passing game coordinator, Bobby Slowik has explained

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Speaker 1: it to him and now he actually kind of understands it,

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Speaker 1: so it's going to really help him. And he's also

515
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Speaker 1: never taking notes before, but that they're really they're really

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Speaker 1: up in their ante, the assistant coaches and his wide

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Speaker 1: receivers coach, I forget the name now it's not Wes Welker.

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Speaker 2: Now they're taking notes there too. So that's your type.

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Speaker 4: So you're telling me that Tyreek Hill is basically who

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Speaker 4: I was until about high school, didn't even study for

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Speaker 4: tests and just would show up in everybody's all nervous,

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Speaker 4: and then you look around, like, what's going on, guys?

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Speaker 3: We have a test today? Oh?

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Speaker 4: We do? Like what?

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Speaker 3: Now he's figured out he needs to study. That's crazy

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Speaker 3: that he's got to this point.

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Speaker 1: Like that, and that like he said, he like didn't

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Speaker 1: really understand the concepts of the team, which it's just crazy,

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Speaker 1: but hearing a lot of good things about him and

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Speaker 1: especially Jalen Waddle out there, So I actually, weirdly do

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Speaker 1: have some optimism at least about the passing game. I

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Speaker 1: did want to note Jalen Phillips has been out there

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Speaker 1: practicing and uh yeah, the aforementioned three yards per carry.

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Speaker 1: They've given him their practice player of the Day twice,

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Speaker 1: so he's reportedly looked pretty good. And Bradley Chubb is

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Speaker 1: out there practicing, so that's something we haven't really hit.

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Speaker 1: But the health of those two guys is really important.

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Speaker 1: And I have noticed too Toront Armstead like shows up

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Speaker 1: there and like is giving tips. Is he like gonna

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Speaker 1: come back at mid season?

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Speaker 2: Who knows? I don't really know.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of Willy gay pop. That was a

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Speaker 1: free agent linebacker. I was wondering who would win their

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Speaker 1: linebacker competition. A lot of Willy gay pop so far

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Speaker 1: for the Dolphins. I said, we might do this show

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Speaker 1: in under an hour. Nick, we are definitely not on pace.

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Speaker 1: So we are going to take a quick break and

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Speaker 1: we're going to come back.

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Speaker 2: And we're going to hit the rest of the NFC.

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Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily doing the AFC Notes here on

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Speaker 1: a Sunday evening.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with the.

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Speaker 1: NFC Notes in the studio with the great Patrick Claybond

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Speaker 1: and a very important update on the naming of his

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Speaker 1: fan club. I put it to a poll on Instagram

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Speaker 1: and we've got some exciting results. And a reminder everyone

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Speaker 1: go go sign up and subscribe to forties in Free Agents,

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Speaker 1: my podcast with Daniel Jeremiah. We'll be back this week

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Speaker 1: and shooky you're here. We're doing it every Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: Next next week we'll have some preseason games to recap,

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Speaker 1: but for now we're talking your favorite division, the AFC.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we are back to the North and where else

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Speaker 3: to start?

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Speaker 4: But Baltimore? All right, Look, we talked about kicking competitions.

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Speaker 4: It's over. It's over. John Hoyland has been released. Got

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Speaker 4: cut Saturday. Tyler Loop still cooking. He's unofficially won the job.

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Speaker 4: John Harbaugh has not confirmed that yet. But when you

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Speaker 4: release one guy, I think it's safe to say that

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Speaker 4: you found your kicker. He made all eleven field goal

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Speaker 4: attempts at Sunday's practice in the home digs, then the

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Speaker 4: friendly confines and the not so friendly confines to road

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Speaker 4: teams M and T Bank Stadium, so he did well there.

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Speaker 4: He passed the test with flying colors according to Harbaugh,

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Speaker 4: so good for that. Jaire Alexander continues to look good

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Speaker 4: like he fits into that defense really well. Picked off

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Speaker 4: his old Louisville teammate Lamar twice and Chuck Pagano. By

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Speaker 4: the way, senior secondary coach in Baltimore said, looks like

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Speaker 4: he hasn't taken a day off when referencing that Gyre

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Speaker 4: hasn't played football since November, so that's also very encouraging.

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Speaker 4: One of my favorite stories to track. Lower level story,

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Speaker 4: but could factor in the starting lineup Andrew Vorhees. Remember

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Speaker 4: this is a guy who was going to be like

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Speaker 4: a third round pick when he was coming into the

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Speaker 4: NFL out of USC. He suffers the ACL tear at

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Speaker 4: the combine, ends up going in the seventh round. He

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Speaker 4: is on track to win the center job over Ben Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: He has the lead as of now, according to Harbaugh,

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Speaker 4: which is something It's just it's heartwarming. I like to

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Speaker 4: see somebody like that bounce back from something so devastating

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Speaker 4: at such a pivotal part time in their career. And

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Speaker 4: last but not least as if the Ravens need another

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Speaker 4: running back, they signed Dearanis Johnson, formerly of the browns'll

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Speaker 4: he probably won't crack the final fifty three and me

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Speaker 4: he's battling for a spot with Derrick Henry and Justice

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Speaker 4: Hill and Keaton Mitchell. So probably a bubble practice squad guy.

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Speaker 3: But he got signed.

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Speaker 4: So that's your latest news in Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: That gave me sort of a local radio feel. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of one of the best in the entire country, Glenn Clark,

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Speaker 1: my friend glencarkradio dot com. If you're in Baltimore, you

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Speaker 1: know him. He's the best, he said to me. Mike

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Speaker 1: Green looks the part so far. Their rookie pass rusher

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Speaker 1: who fell in the draft because of the domestic violence

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Speaker 1: accusations and incidents, and that you know, they could really

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Speaker 1: use a pass rusher.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Alexander By the way.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't seen the contract that he signed yet, the

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Speaker 1: details hadn't been out there. They only paid their paying

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Speaker 1: him four million dollars. You know how we always do

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Speaker 1: like how he did it again? Oh, how do you

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Speaker 1: let the eagle in the draft? I think we got

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Speaker 1: to start doing that in the off season in August

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Speaker 1: in July for the Ravens because it's always it's DaCosta

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Speaker 1: did it again. He'll sign some veteran or two every

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Speaker 1: year between like June and August. They might have another

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Speaker 1: one coming for very little money, and then they'll just

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Speaker 1: get like eight hundred great snaps at it. So net

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Speaker 1: we got to bring DaCosta did it again, Ozzie did

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Speaker 1: it again back in the day.

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Speaker 2: They're always doing it again.

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Speaker 4: They must be selling their culture and their history of

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Speaker 4: being competitive, because I don't know how else they convinced

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Speaker 4: these guys to take so little money to complete for them.

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Speaker 4: But it usually works unless your name is Deontae Johnson,

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Speaker 4: who they got in trade and couldn't keep, you know,

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Speaker 4: convinced to get on the field.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's keep it in the AFC North.

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Speaker 4: We'll go to well, the most depressing story in the

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Speaker 4: division this season, which is the Browns. The quarterback competition,

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Speaker 4: while interesting, has been a bit of a dud. None

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Speaker 4: of the guys have really played all that well, Joe

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Speaker 4: Flacco has gained a lot of ground. It seems like

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Speaker 4: he's the favorite to win the job at this point,

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Speaker 4: especially with Kenny Pickett out. Pickett is participating in like

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Speaker 4: limited fashion. He's not you know, he said he's working

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Speaker 4: twenty four to seven to get back, but he acknowledged

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Speaker 4: that he's losing, you know, ground in this race. And

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Speaker 4: I think it's fairly safe at this point to think

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Speaker 4: Flaco is going to be the week one starter. Schador

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Speaker 4: sat out on Saturday because of arm soreness. Was caused

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Speaker 4: everybody in attendance and in the greater Northeast Ohio area

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Speaker 4: to panic as if the Browns were sabotaging his attempt

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Speaker 4: to win the job, which is hilarious in itself. And

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Speaker 4: then at the same time, it was Flacco and Dylan Gabriel,

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Speaker 4: You're only two guys available to participate in full team drills.

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Speaker 4: Dylan Gabriel has a up really really rough practices over

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Speaker 4: the weekend, so much the Kevin Stefanski had to like

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Speaker 4: answer about it afterward. He just struggled to complete passes consistently.

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Speaker 4: I saw a little compilation. It was just like there's

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Speaker 4: a miss, there's a miss. Oh that was a nice throw.

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Speaker 4: There's a miss. So it doesn't look good. But what

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Speaker 4: does look good for the Browns wide receiver Gauge Larvadane. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: name five times you're going yep, Yeah, he had a

655
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 4: strong Saturday session. He's had a nice little run of

656
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 4: a few practices here and he looks like he could

657
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 4: make this final fifty three man roster. And on the

658
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 4: bad side, of course, they lost m Jammerson to an

659
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 4: achilles tear earlier in the week, so that's gonna hurt

660
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 4: their strength of the team, which is their secondary.

661
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: I hate to be a bummer because you want every

662
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: team to have hope. This team obviously came into the

663
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: year with some of the worst vibes I think in

664
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: the NFL. And if you just look at real takeaways

665
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: from the last month, there aren't many teams that have

666
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: lost like multiple players for the season. You know, Jordan

667
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: Hicks is not coming back retired. Martin Emerson was a

668
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: starting cornerback, probably your second best one maybe was gonna

669
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: get a long term deal. It is not coming back.

670
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: That's it's it's just depressing. And then you have this

671
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: quarterback battle where Gabriel per Zach Jackson, who covers them

672
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: for The Athletic. On his podcast, he said like he'th

673
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: had been at the point where he kind of feels

674
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: sorry for Dylan Gabriel. There just no confidence, Like beyond

675
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: awful was the word he used, Like not anywhere close

676
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: where Shudur is clearly more talented and just better. And

677
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: it's weird because they're like giving Gabriel reps ahead of

678
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: Sanders because he was taken ahead of him.

679
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: It's just like why.

680
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: And then it's in a week where Jimmy Hasim, the owner,

681
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: said literally out loud that we have to play our

682
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: rookies this year, like we have to play our rookie

683
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: Quarterbacksuse you don't have to. I mean, if he shows

684
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: that he can't play, then he can't, he can't play.

685
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it shocks that many people that he's

686
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: going to take some time.

687
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you swung and missed at that point, which

688
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 4: Jimmy Haslam already used that phrase to describe to Sean Watson.

689
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought up Zach though, because I think

690
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 4: that if you listen to his podcast, the tone of

691
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 4: his voice, he's usually a reserved and very you know,

692
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 4: observant individual, somebody that I've known for a long time

693
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 4: who I value very much. But the tone of his

694
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 4: voice in his podcast kind of says it all. Like

695
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 4: he even said it. The Browns are in a bad place.

696
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 4: It's not going to get better overnight for them.

697
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 3: So take it.

698
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 4: Take a moment to listen at Zach Jackson and Friends.

699
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 4: He does a great job of recapping.

700
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: Can I give you some positives at least I did,

701
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, ask our friend Andrew too, and Andrew Siciliano,

702
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: and he did point out like Chwessender and Mason Graham

703
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: are having really good camps. And if you are a

704
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: Browns fan looking for some hope and something to be

705
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: excited about this season, if he can get this rookie

706
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: class to be good between those two guys and Dylan

707
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: Sampson's going to have a roll up running back and

708
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: Harold Fannin as reportedly made some noise at tight end,

709
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: like obviously the on office needs it and they could

710
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: really use Shuder, you know, showing up and the shoulder

711
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: not being an issue and playing eventually like that rookie

712
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: class is one reason to be excited. One last one,

713
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Speaker 1: by the way I did want to mention Mary Kay

714
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: Cabot legend got the award at the Hall of Fame

715
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: this week for service for her writing career. And while

716
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: she was you know, talking about how her career started

717
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: out tough, that Bill Belichick was a tough coach to

718
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: deal with at first. He would always give her, you know,

719
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: a lot of grief. She had the one liner of

720
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: the weekend and that was, well, it makes sense now

721
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: because I was twenty eight years old at the time

722
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Speaker 1: and Bill just couldn't relate to a woman that old.

723
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Speaker 2: Fantastic.

724
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 3: It's great zing nailed it.

725
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: Sure she didn't expect it to become like national news

726
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: and pick up by the New York Post.

727
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: But good job by Mary Kay Cabbot. He's been doing

728
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: a great job for a long time.

729
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, fantastic love Mary Kay.

730
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 4: Another fantastic member of that beat and a veteran of

731
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 4: it which, let me tell you what it's it chews

732
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 4: you up and spits yeut based on how this team

733
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 4: has struggled over the last few decades. But she's always

734
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 4: been there and doing a great job. Let's go down

735
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Speaker 4: to the other corner of Ohio Cincinnati, home of the Bengals,

736
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 4: where They've added tight end Noah fans, which felt like perfect,

737
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 4: Like this is a team that picks up tight ends

738
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 4: that bounce around. You know that this is a team

739
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 4: that goes after a Mike Gasicki or now a Noah fan,

740
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 4: and they get him on a one year deal worth

741
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 4: up the four point twenty five million, so affordable as

742
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 4: well and another weapon for Joe Burrow to work with.

743
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 4: The big story though for this team, really encouraging out

744
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 4: of camp this past week has been their defense. Al

745
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 4: Golden has taken over as defensive coordinator and his impact

746
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 4: is starting to show. They've been remarkably competitive and they've

747
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 4: talked a lot of trash. Burrow even commented off on

748
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 4: it after one of the sessions late in the week.

749
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 4: He said, the young dbi's are really stepping up and

750
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 4: making things tough. Both sides are going to make the plays,

751
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 4: but the energy for coaluity knowledge of coverages has been

752
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 4: top level and that's exciting and that's huge for them

753
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 4: because if their defense can come back to a competitive level,

754
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 4: this team's ceiling goes up dramatically, So it's very encouraging

755
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 4: to hear.

756
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 3: Now.

757
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 4: Obviously, defense is usually ahead offenses at this portion in camp.

758
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 4: But good things here, Like it's gotten to the point

759
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 4: where the beat there is like, wait, is this defense

760
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:18,919
Speaker 4: actually good?

761
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: So that's good to hear right now.

762
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 4: Offensively, Amarius Men's dealing with a minor hand issue and

763
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 4: has been replaced by Devin Cochran at right tackle during

764
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 4: this portion. And the feeling the most worry about this

765
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 4: entire team has been their offensive line. They lack experience,

766
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 4: they lack proven reliability. It's going to be the big

767
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 4: question mark for them. So keep an eye on that

768
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 4: because you know, you got to protect Jo Brow if

769
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 4: he's going to take advantage of all that talent a receiver.

770
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: So we'll keep watching that.

771
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: Like I like hearing that the young dbs are playing

772
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: with some fire and talking trast with Jamar Chase and

773
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: all this stuff. Josh Newton has really been with the

774
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: starters and DJ Turner with the backups, but reportedly he

775
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: had a good day. But I do kind of just

776
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 1: think of the flip side that if the defensive line

777
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: is dominating, and on paper, without Trey Hendrickson, it's not

778
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: that good of a defensive line. Although you love to

779
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: hear Shamar Stewart kind of showing up right away and

780
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: making a big impact. Maybe that's just the offensive line

781
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 1: is bad and on paper to me, it's bad other

782
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 1: than Mims, who's you know, exciting.

783
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 2: Orlando Brown is going to be fine at left ackle.

784
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 2: He's a little overpaid, but he's fine.

785
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 1: But it does make you worry they're very thin up

786
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: front and could we be back to the same old

787
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: Bengals issues with the line. I don't get that vibe

788
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: that Joe Burrow is that worried about it.

789
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: Though.

790
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: Here's just a very quick snippet for you, surprising you

791
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: with this one shook of him on NFL Network with

792
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: our Tom Pelsero.

793
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 2: For myself, I expectially close to perfect, you know. I

794
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: think I'm at that level at this point. I understand

795
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: the offense. We've been together for a long time.

796
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: How good does it feel to be able to say

797
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: I expect to be close to perfect at this point.

798
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: I'm at that level, you know.

799
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 3: I mean, it's good.

800
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 4: That is the confidence fitting a man who dyed his

801
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 4: hair bleached blonde and set off a trend last summer.

802
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 2: It's just a confident guy.

803
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: It's what you want to I mean, that's that he

804
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: expects perfection, that he's at that level and yeah, I

805
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: love that.

806
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree.

807
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: All right.

808
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 4: Last team in the AFC North is, of course, the

809
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers where they practice in Latrobe, Pennsylvania, Sat Vincent College.

810
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 4: James Pierre, defensive back who's fighting for a roster spot,

811
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 4: may have an opening to earn a place there, and

812
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 4: it's a pretty deep secondary. Corey trist Junior suffered a

813
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 4: hamstring injury and that could open the door for him.

814
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 4: He's had some nice sessions at the end of this

815
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 4: past week, three interceptions between Friday, which they played under

816
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 4: the lights, Friday night lights and Saturday starting to make

817
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 4: a difference there. We'll see if he can continue to

818
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 4: ride that toward a roster spot. It sounds like this

819
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 4: defense is ahead of the offense, which is very encouraging

820
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 4: for them. We talked about this on the show last week,

821
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 4: that you know, that defense just wasn't as good as

822
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 4: it was expected to be over the last couple of years.

823
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 4: And if they can with the changes that they've made,

824
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 4: if they can become that year, then again, like the Bengals,

825
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 4: their ceiling goes up a lot. Patrick Queen's feeling the

826
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 4: good vibes about the unit so far. According to ESPN's

827
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 4: Brooke Prior, he said, I think we're farther ahead than

828
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 4: last year, but still not where we need to be,

829
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 4: which is good because that kind of fits with what

830
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 4: he said about himself last year felt like he didn't

831
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 4: get to where he needed to be, and he entered

832
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 4: this season feeling as if he was a step ahead

833
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 4: or back on track. So now with all the good

834
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 4: vibes in the defense, you have to keep an eye

835
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 4: on Alex Highsmith, who suffered what he thinks could be

836
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 4: a possible groin injury. We're going to get more info

837
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 4: from Mike Tomlin after further testing and everything that's expected

838
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 4: on Tuesday, So watch that one because you know how

839
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 4: important he is to that edge rushing group, with TJ.

840
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 4: Watt obviously being the headliner there and last but not least,

841
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 4: Isaac Sayamalo is starting to work his way back into

842
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 4: the lineup. They actually haven't gotten their starting five offensive

843
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 4: linemen out there for a good portion of camp because

844
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 4: he was on NFI. He's come back from NFI, He's

845
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 4: gotten some work in some of these sessions, so you're

846
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 4: starting to get a better picture of where this offense

847
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 4: could look starting with their front five.

848
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're left tackle progerc Drones two has kind of

849
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 1: been in and out. I believe has had some injuries

850
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: and they really need him to be good. Here's what

851
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: you're not hearing to me out of Steelers camp too

852
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: consistently like a.

853
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: Lot of Rogers. Oh, Rogers is cooking.

854
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: Mark Mark Coboli, who does a good job writing these

855
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: long notes on Twitter for the McAfee show, like he's

856
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: noted some positives with Rogers, not like Rogers is struggling.

857
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: But I just feel like it's it's optimism season and

858
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: if if Rogers was super cooking, we would probably hear

859
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: about it. It's a lot of DK pop, a lot

860
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: of it's like a lot of slants the DK a

861
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: lot of yards after the catch. Calvin Austin might be

862
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: the wide receiver too. Some Jalen Ramsey pop that he

863
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: really looks good, which is always good to hear, But

864
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: not a lot of like Rogers pop yet. So just

865
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 1: something to note. Actually, I did want your thoughts about

866
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: the story in the middle of the week that they

867
00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: had a personnel package Forget twelve personnel which you know

868
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: is taken over the league, which is one receiver, two

869
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: tight ends, you know, get heavy, start running. How about

870
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: four personnel, no receivers, four tight ends on the field

871
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: with John new Smith in the backfield as the running back.

872
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 3: Give me that, okay.

873
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 4: Arthur Smith has been known to deploy non running backs

874
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 4: at running back. Cordial Patterson manned that role for him

875
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 4: in Atlanta and in Pittsburgh.

876
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 3: Cordial Patterson has since released.

877
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: By the way, I don't know if we hit that

878
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: on this show, like literally, a guy who will get

879
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: some Hall of Fame consideration just because he was the

880
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: best special teams player of his era.

881
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: We should have mentioned that, thank.

882
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 3: You, got fired on his day off.

883
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 4: But we did talk about this tight end group, right

884
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 4: and how it's crowded, like Pat Friarmouth, John Smith, Darnell Washington,

885
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 4: who I learned last week has the nickname of Mount Washington,

886
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 4: which is also a literal mountain in Pittsburgh.

887
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: Great nickname.

888
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 4: And then Conner Hayward who's been more of an h

889
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 4: back but one of my favorites since his days at

890
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 4: Michigan State. If you're gonna find a way to use

891
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 4: all these guys, going to keep all these guys and

892
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 4: you want to go heavy, why not because a lot

893
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 4: of these guys can make plays, and they're all kind

894
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 4: of different archetypes, and if anybody was going to do it,

895
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 4: it's the madman who has made having a mustache quite notable,

896
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 4: Arthur Smith.

897
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 1: And it makes you maybe a little a little less

898
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: concern about the receiver position.

899
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 6: That.

900
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: Look, they couldn't find a wide receiver to fill in

901
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: behind Metcalf, you know, between him and Roman Wilson and

902
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: Calvin Austin, which.

903
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: You would like.

904
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: But maybe it's just you're just gonna play all those

905
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: tight ends because that is an awesome tight end room.

906
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: Like Darnault Washington.

907
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: If if we do making the leap on the show,

908
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: is my Steelers making the leap?

909
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 2: Guy?

910
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: Like I think his ceiling is higher than people realize.

911
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: And then the other two tight ends are obviously productive

912
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: good players. All right, let's go to the AFC West.

913
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: Let's talk Chargers. So we just saw them in the

914
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Game won't repeat what we said there.

915
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: But one thing I didn't mention on that show was

916
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: KeAndre Lambert Smith, who was the Daniel Jeremiah. He is

917
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: a ballner.

918
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 2: I gotta admit.

919
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: He put him very high on his rank means no

920
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: one even knew who that kid was. Then suddenly the

921
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: team he works for hmmm, drafts him hmm. And now

922
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,959
Speaker 1: he's playing really well, like making deep plays down the field.

923
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: I didn't mention in that game he had a really

924
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: nice slant for a touchdown. Then he also had a

925
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: long play.

926
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: And that.

927
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: Note that Lambert Smith making some plays down the field

928
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: is also repeated by our very own Jordan rod Rieg,

929
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: who is giving us a camp correspondent bucket of notes here.

930
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: She was at Chargers camp, so she just texted me something,

931
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: so this is from her on Saturday. She said, Khalil

932
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 1: Mack looked fast, maybe that he dropped some weight. He's

933
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: always he's come into these last few seasons like so good,

934
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: and then the wear and tear tends to wear him down.

935
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: But she just says, he looks really fast, looks good.

936
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: She noted, just seeing them in person, this has to

937
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: be one of the biggest offenses in the NFL, which

938
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: is true. They're just like massive that they're like bigger

939
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: than their the Chargers defense, and it's true, like their

940
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: tight ends, their running back room, their quarterback room is huge,

941
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: Like they're just huge.

942
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 2: This is awesome.

943
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: In Jordan's words, Trey Harris, he's got some to him.

944
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: So I don't know exactly what that means, but I

945
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: think that's a good thing. Trey Harris, that's what he's

946
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: got to him. And yeah, Quentin Johnson at the X

947
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: right now, no surprise there, But that's that's what he's got.

948
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 1: That's a good thing. That's a compliment.

949
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 3: I agree. I agree.

950
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 4: My favorite thing about this size thing that you just mentioned,

951
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 4: that Jordan mentioned is the fact that I'm at the

952
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame game Thursday night and I'm like, I'm looking,

953
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 4: and I'm just looking, and I'm looking, and I'm tracking

954
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 4: the man who plays fullback and also plays defensive tackle,

955
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 4: Scott Matt Lockey wears forty four.

956
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 3: It's a great football.

957
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 4: Number, and I'm watching him just dominate and both sides

958
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 4: of the ball, whether he's blocking it full back, like

959
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 4: he personifies, he embodies this mindset that I think Jim

960
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 4: Harball wanted up bring to the charges, which is toughness,

961
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 4: toughness at the point of attack. We're gonna win in

962
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 4: the trenches, We're gonna wear you down. Who cares if

963
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 4: we have a guy who's an awesome quarterback in Justin Herbert,

964
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 4: we're gonna win on the ground and with physicality first,

965
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 4: and then we're gonna throw the ball on you later.

966
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 3: And you're right.

967
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 4: It totally is visible in the roster construction, the way

968
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 4: they look when they take the field. It's a bit

969
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 4: of a throwback, but I like the approach, especially in

970
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 4: the division that also has Patrick Mahomes. It's like the

971
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 4: counter to that.

972
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: Right.

973
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 1: They don't make they don't make a lot of mental mistakes.

974
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: They don't turn the ball over a ton like a

975
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: lot of coaches talk like this, but Harby, you actually

976
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: see it every literally everywhere he's ever been. It actually happens.

977
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: It seems like it's happening here. It's happening again. I'm

978
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: falling for the Chargers. Nico Reid by the way Udfa

979
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: in that game had like a ridiculous game of pick six,

980
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: knock knocked the ball out, special teams tackle. He seems

981
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: like a find. And then they're starting inside linebacker. Denzel

982
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: Parriman has been arrested for felony possession of a deadly weapon.

983
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 1: That happened since Thursday as well, so that risks obviously

984
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: some serious repercussions. Whether it's a suspension from the lead

985
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: j who knows. We'll have to track that. The one

986
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: last thing here is we didn't talk about from that game,

987
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: the virtual measurement that they did for the first down.

988
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: You were there live and in person thoughts on the

989
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: virtual measurement.

990
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 3: It didn't take forever.

991
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 4: I'm kind of accustomed to it now with all the

992
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 4: replays we get the NBA and how it stops the

993
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 4: game incessantly. But there was a funny moment in the

994
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 4: press box where they announced that they were stopping for

995
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 4: virtual measurement and somebody in the front row goes for

996
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 4: what virtual?

997
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 3: What like making a joke. So I don't know. We'll see,

998
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 3: we'll see how right.

999
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: They were just trying it out. They tried it out

1000
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: last year too, and it didn't work in the preseason,

1001
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: so I was skeptical.

1002
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 2: I don't I.

1003
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: Don't need I don't need the game being stopped more

1004
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: time than necessary, So you better have this lockdown.

1005
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: Got my eye in you, NFL.

1006
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: Let's go to the Chiefs. This the team kind of

1007
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: like the Bills where I don't have a ton from

1008
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,479
Speaker 1: this week. I really check out Pete Sweeney at Arrowhead Pride,

1009
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: who does a great job. And then just some of

1010
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: his camp notes that kind of struck me of just

1011
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: a talking point for the Chiefs is the cornerback position.

1012
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: He noted that Shamari Connor is kind of their inside

1013
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: guy right now with McDuffie and Jalen Watson on the outside.

1014
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: It's like Trey McDuffie's way better in the slot.

1015
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: He just is.

1016
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: I don't think he's that special on the outside. I

1017
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: know he got like the All Pro or whatever he

1018
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: got Pro Bowl, is like that was a little maybe

1019
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: on reputation.

1020
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: When he's inside. Nazi Johnson's on the outside.

1021
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 1: It's like those are two guys Connor and Nase Johnson

1022
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: who are both cooked quite a bit. In the playoffs,

1023
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: like in the Super Bowl, they see they seem a

1024
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: cornerback short when everyone's healthy. That's what's crazy to me,

1025
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: is like everyone's healthy right now. So to me, that's

1026
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: just something to watch. They're a great candidate to me

1027
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: to sign one of these cornerbacks that's out there, I

1028
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: would do that because many if they lose mcdif if

1029
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: they lost mc duffy or Watson, it's like, man, it

1030
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: gets kind of grim there.

1031
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, when we talk about them finding ways

1032
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 4: to stay competitive over the last few years with roster

1033
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 4: turnover and everything else, the one area that has kind

1034
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 4: of flown under the radar is the fact that they've

1035
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 4: cut corners in the secondary like no pun intended with

1036
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 4: corner and they made it work though right, yes, they

1037
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 4: made it work because they got the most out of

1038
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 4: guys like McDuffie. But that attrition year over year I

1039
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 4: think is starting to show, at least at this like

1040
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 4: portion of the summer that we have a reason to

1041
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 4: finally be concerned about this. And I agree with you,

1042
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 4: but it also comes down to when you're looking at McDuffie,

1043
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 4: because the fact that they hit on that, you know,

1044
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 4: a first round pick playing as well as he has,

1045
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 4: has helped them kind of, you know, navigate the choppy

1046
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 4: waters that come with roster turnover. But I will say

1047
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 4: it comes down to what do you value more an

1048
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 4: outside corner who's going to man up against the number

1049
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 4: one guy or a guy who's going to be an

1050
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 4: elite slot corner. And if you're not strong enough on

1051
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 4: the outside, you're not confident enough on the outside, then

1052
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 4: you're forced to do what they did with the offensive line.

1053
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 4: Last year, which is take your best corner and move

1054
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 4: him outside like they did with Joe Tooney, moving him

1055
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 4: to tackle. So I agree with you, and I hate

1056
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 4: that you have to make that choice because it's robbing

1057
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 4: us of elite play. Even if it's just one step down,

1058
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 4: it's not quite as good, but it does kind of

1059
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 4: just speak to where they are at the position right now.

1060
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: The salary cap makes it so hard because you know

1061
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: they got mcdubby because of a brilliant trade. He came

1062
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: as a pick that came from the Tyreek Hill trade

1063
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: where they nailed it and they hit on him in

1064
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: car Loftis. But you got to pay those guys now,

1065
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: like Carl Loftis has got his money and the cycle

1066
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 1: begins again. There's a guy who they've given some snats,

1067
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: Chris Roland Wallace UDFA from a season ago that they're

1068
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: trying to roll in there. But you point on the

1069
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: offensive line, like now they've got almost too many starters.

1070
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 2: It's the same deal.

1071
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: Josh Simmons continues to be the guy at left tackle,

1072
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: where the big fifteen million dollar man Jalen Moore is

1073
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: battling at right tackle and left card. So that's a

1074
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: good problem to have. Sky moor is back from an injury,

1075
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: but I think he's probably gonna get cut. The second

1076
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: round pick from a few years ago, Taekwon Thornton and

1077
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: Jason Brownly are ahead of him go to the Denver Bronco.

1078
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: Zach Allen got paid four years, one hundred and two

1079
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: million dollars forty five million dollars guaranteed over the next

1080
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: two years. If he's on the roster a year from now,

1081
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: which seems very likely, it goes up to sixty million guaranteed.

1082
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: Sean Payton had a great quote on it, which is,

1083
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: periodically there's a player that comes up for a contract

1084
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: and we just have to look at ourselves. If we

1085
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: aren't willing to pay him, who are we willing to pay?

1086
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: So I love it they got ahead of it, even

1087
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: for a player that's, you know, hitting his thirties. And

1088
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: if you listen to around the NFL and now NFL

1089
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: Daily Man, we we were early on the Zach Allen train,

1090
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: even in Arizona.

1091
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: Thought that was a great signing.

1092
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: Turned out to be one of the best free agent

1093
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: signings of the last five or six years, So good

1094
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: on them. He led the NFL and QB hits last

1095
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: year a stat I had to like reread. I was like, really,

1096
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: Zach Allen led the NFL in that that's that's amazing.

1097
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: So shout out to them for being small and for

1098
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: him to get paid.

1099
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can count me in that group, being on

1100
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 4: the Zach Allen train early. Even when things weren't the

1101
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 4: best in Arizona or they were struggling defensively, he always

1102
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 4: stood out. It's crazy you actually look at a statue like,

1103
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 4: but he's only been a Bronco for two years, because

1104
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 4: I feel like he's been there for a long time,

1105
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 4: because he's just been that consistent over the course of

1106
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 4: his entire career. Set a career high with eight and

1107
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 4: a half sacks last year. Perfect time to get paid,

1108
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 4: Sean Payton. Take that knowledge to the team you used

1109
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 4: to work for way back in the day in Dallas.

1110
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 4: Send it right up the ladder to Jerry and Steven Jones.

1111
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 3: Maybe they'll agree, right.

1112
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: It almost was like it was an indirect shot without

1113
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 1: trying to be shot. Riley Moss reportedly having a good camp.

1114
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: You know, it was a little up and down last year.

1115
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: Wasn't healthy as their second cornerback, Dray green Law has

1116
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: been in and out of practice. They hoped to get

1117
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: him back in about a week. It was good that

1118
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: he was back, but then he heard his squad but

1119
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: it's supposedly not serious. Drew Sanders is also at that position.

1120
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: He's out four to six weeks with foot surgery. Alex

1121
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: Singleton broke his thumb. He had a surgery, but he's

1122
00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: going to be back. You know, that's a linebacker. With

1123
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: the thumb injury, he'll be back. But a lot of

1124
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 1: injuries at the same position. Let's wrap the AFC West

1125
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: with the Raiders. So a week ago I mentioned no

1126
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: one's stepping up behind Jacoby Myers at receiver, and I

1127
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: did get it some notes from some Raiders trots. What

1128
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: about Dante Thornton. You're not paying close enough attentions, Like, no,

1129
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: I'm just reading the reports. But I gotta say, in

1130
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: the last week, it does seem like Dante Thornton, a

1131
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: Day three pick at receiver, is their starting X, which

1132
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: is interesting. Now Trey Tucker, according to to Sean Reid,

1133
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: might be their wide receiver two in terms of snaps,

1134
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 1: but maybe that's sort of evolving into their top three,

1135
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 1: which is interesting. It doesn't include Jack Besh a second

1136
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: round pick, and that's why I like watching these camp reports.

1137
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: So Dante Thornton someone to keep an eye on someone

1138
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 1: I don't know a ton about as a fourth round pick,

1139
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 1: but he might be their starting X to start the season,

1140
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: which is an important spot for them, and maybe they

1141
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: have a fine we'll see.

1142
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, they need it.

1143
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 4: They need some sort of other option outside of Jacoby Meyers,

1144
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 4: so that would be really encouraging. It would be a

1145
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 4: bummer if Jack Bash is not as involved in the picture,

1146
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 4: given the fact that you spent a higher pick on him.

1147
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 3: But that's the way the draft goes, man.

1148
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 4: People forget a lot of It is a crapshoot, and

1149
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 4: sometimes you realize that the guy you spent a Day

1150
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 4: three pick on was actually better than the other guy.

1151
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 4: But nobody saw it, nobody you know, expected it, and

1152
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 4: then you get the results and benefit from it.

1153
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 2: It's and it's extremely early.

1154
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: Obviously, it can change over the next couple of weeks,

1155
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: much less the next couple of months, much less. You

1156
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: know their careers, but he just might be coming along

1157
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 1: like a little slowly. The reason I wanted to mention

1158
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: that too, I think this was from Deshaun Reid at

1159
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: the Athletic too, that Dante Thornton apparently was showing up

1160
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: in the quarterbacks group group text, whether it was Gino

1161
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: or Aidan O'Connell said that that like, oh yeah, we

1162
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: were texting the other easy early, like you can really

1163
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: trust this guy. And I was like, oh, that's a

1164
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: good that's a good sign that he's earned Gino's you know,

1165
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: trust in the group.

1166
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 4: It makes me wonder if Kyle Allen sends the same

1167
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 4: texts about receiver Dominic Levett, who he talked had a

1168
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 4: billion times in the Hall of Fame.

1169
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: And the Lions game, that's a deep cut surprising news

1170
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: that they have a new starting center, Jordan Meredith, a

1171
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: fifth year veteran, displacing Jackson Powers Johnson, who is a

1172
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: lot of people's favorite center prospect from a year ago,

1173
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: and now Powers Johnson is battling at right guard with

1174
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 1: Alex Kappa, who they brought in. I think this might

1175
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: be about like just getting the best five and I

1176
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: suspect jack you know, Powers Johnson gets that job, and

1177
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: people who thought Alex Kappa was going to come in

1178
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: there and like save their offensive line.

1179
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 2: It didn't make a lot of sense.

1180
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 5: To me if you've watched well, yeah, and it reminded

1181
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 5: me of the it's just kind of a lie that

1182
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 5: people tell themselves every off season, which is, hey, we

1183
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 5: can rebuild this offensive line through free agency, and it's like, no,

1184
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 5: because there's not that many really reliable offensive linemen out

1185
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 5: there that you're gonna end up that are gonna end

1186
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 5: up being worth that money.

1187
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 4: So this is another example of that. But it is

1188
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 4: interesting because Jackson powers. Johnson actually had a clip I

1189
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 4: don't remember when it was from exactly where he talked

1190
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 4: about how he demanded to take the center job. He's like,

1191
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 4: you know, I won. I think it's the Brimington Award,

1192
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 4: like top college center. I know how to play the position,

1193
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 4: Give me the damn job, and ended up taking it.

1194
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 4: Now if he loses it, curious to see.

1195
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: How he seems like he's lost it at this point

1196
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: and maybe isn't like like that is the position he

1197
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 1: wants to play. But Pete Carroll obviously is the one

1198
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 1: making those decisions.

1199
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: He's in charge.

1200
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: Lonnie Johnson, who's a reserve cornerback defensive back, broke.

1201
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: His leg at practice this week. You hate to see that.

1202
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: Eric Stokes has been starting for them at cornerback to

1203
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: Cameron Richardson getting more first team reps battling with rookie

1204
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: Darien Porter. I wanted to mention that because Richardson's cousin

1205
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: is on this Raiders team and is also geared up

1206
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: for a starting job, a man by the name of

1207
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: Devin White, who Pete Carroll says is back to his

1208
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: old self. I'm filing this under, you know, I'll believe

1209
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: it when I see it in the in the actual

1210
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: regular season.

1211
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:55,919
Speaker 2: It's not a great sign.

1212
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: Like the guys that they're starting, Like Eric Stokes was

1213
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: like cornerback five or six on his previous teams, and

1214
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: he's like cornerback one. Here we got Devin White and

1215
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: who couldn't you know cracker rotation last year starting next

1216
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: to Landon Roberts, Like Pete's gotta work work some magic.

1217
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 2: But they are their cousins. White and to Cameron Richardson.

1218
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 3: So Stokes was a former first round pick too.

1219
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, former pack you're buying.

1220
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're leaning a lot on past pedigree and guys

1221
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 4: like White and Stokes.

1222
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 3: We'll see, we'll see maybe, man.

1223
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're really fighting in uphill battle. I know everyone

1224
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: has so much Raiders optimism. And I look at this

1225
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: defense and I think it's as it's amazing to say,

1226
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: considering Max Crosby's on their team, it might be thirty

1227
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: two in like overall defensive talent. It's certainly close to

1228
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 1: the bottom.

1229
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 2: It's really cool.

1230
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 3: Definitely lower third. Definitely lower third, I.

1231
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 2: Mean lower bottom, three or four, no doubt.

1232
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: All right, let's take one more quick break and we

1233
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: will wrap with Nick Chuck's.

1234
00:54:55,520 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 2: Favorite division on Earth. It's the AFC seven back on

1235
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 2: NFL Daily.

1236
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: While we're taping here, we got some breaking news to

1237
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: us to you, it's old news. It's a contract extension

1238
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,720
Speaker 1: for one of the most underrated players in the entire NFL,

1239
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: Zach Sealer of the Dolphins, getting forty four million dollars

1240
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 1: guaranteed on a three year contract at sixty four million dollars,

1241
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: a very similar deal to the one that Zach Allen got.

1242
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 1: And I'm impressed and I'm surprised the Dolphins forked over

1243
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: a really fair contract to a guy who's been one

1244
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: of their best players. So shout out to Zach Steeler

1245
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: for making it happen. One of the best players period

1246
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: on the Dolphins. All Right, let's go to the AFC

1247
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: South Shookie.

1248
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 4: This was my two favorite zachs who played defensive line

1249
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 4: in the NFL, so good for both of them. All Right,

1250
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 4: we started Houston, where we didn't have a lot to

1251
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 4: talk about last week, except for the fact that they

1252
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:02,959
Speaker 4: didn't have a lot of guys in camp.

1253
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 3: Well, I have great news.

1254
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 4: I have great news for you, Greg, because Damiko Ryans

1255
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 4: is a firm believer that the offensive line has figured

1256
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 4: it out. In one week. They went from being one

1257
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 4: of the most concerning points to focus on with this

1258
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 4: team to something that is now quote solidified, and that

1259
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 4: is because some players have separated themselves according to Ryan's

1260
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 4: since they put the pads on. Rookie tackle arionte Erser

1261
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 4: from Minnesota is included among their top five, which is

1262
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 4: interesting to watch because you like to see investment payoff immediately,

1263
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 4: but again without proof that he can be that guy

1264
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 4: over the course of the season. We'll have to continue

1265
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 4: to track it throughout the year. The defense looks fantastic

1266
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 4: as expected. This is going to be I think the

1267
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 4: strength of their team. We knew how good they were

1268
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 4: last year. They're giving the offense trouble and it's not

1269
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 4: all the offensive line's fault. In fact, oftentimes it's not

1270
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 4: the offensive lines fault at all. It's just that their

1271
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 4: secondary is playing really well. Kln Bullock continues to ascend

1272
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 4: as he enters his second NFL season. He picked off CG.

1273
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 4: Stroud in on seven he was one of my favorite

1274
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 4: defensive backs that flew under the radar last year. I'm

1275
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 4: very excited to see if he makes that sort of

1276
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 4: leap in year two. But they're so dominant that our

1277
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,439
Speaker 4: favorite trash talker CD Deuce himself, CJ. Gardner Johnson said,

1278
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 4: quote we all may ass it's belt to ass end quote.

1279
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 2: I mean Rinson repeat.

1280
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: I feel like he's had that type of quote or

1281
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: maybe even in that exact quote in every camp he's

1282
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: ever been in.

1283
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: I love Cdduce.

1284
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: It's amazing how good they could be in the secondary

1285
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: because you think of Kamari Lassiter as this incredible rookie

1286
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: last year paired with Derek Stingley, and Bullock gets a

1287
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: little bit forgotten. But there's a writer for their team

1288
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: website that's good John Harris, and he said he's as

1289
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: good Kaylyn Bullock as anyone he's ever seen with the

1290
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: ball in the air in terms of being a ballhawk,

1291
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: and I think Stingley obviously can do that and CD

1292
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: Deuce can certainly do that. So it just sounds like

1293
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: a nightmare to go again. So it is funny to

1294
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: hear that they've kind of decided on their offensive line

1295
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: and no huge surprises like Cam Robinson, Lake and Tomlinson

1296
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: and you mentioned Ursery's the most interesting, the second round

1297
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: pick who's gonna start. But you hear them that's solidified.

1298
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: At the same time you hear that like Will Anderson

1299
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: is just absolutely destroying every single practice and defense is

1300
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: absolutely dominating, and there just hasn't been a ton of

1301
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: juice from the offense in general. I am a little

1302
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: a little concerned about like the drop off from Nico

1303
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: Collins to basically anyone else as a pass catcher. Although

1304
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: Ryan's talked up Dalton Schultz a little bit this week,

1305
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: saying that he looks like the guy we expected coming

1306
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: out of Dallas, which almost felt like a shot that

1307
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: like he hasn't necessarily been, but Demiko Ryans keeps it real,

1308
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: and I think that's true. I think Schultz underperformed a

1309
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: little bit and maybe he looks better now.

1310
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1311
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 4: I also feel like they didn't quite I mean eighty

1312
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 4: five targets last year, but I felt like they didn't

1313
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 4: quite prioritize him in that offense as best as they could,

1314
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 4: like offensive coordination.

1315
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: He didn't make you say like wow, like he had

1316
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: some really nice plays with the Cowboys his last year.

1317
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 2: He just seemed like just a guy.

1318
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a secondary figure there.

1319
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 4: All right, let's keep it in the South, of course,

1320
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 4: and we're gonna go to Indianapolis, where bad news. Unfortunately,

1321
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 4: Savon Ahmed suffered a severe right lower leg injury. It

1322
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 4: sounds like it was due to a hip DROC tackle

1323
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 4: in practice. He was carried off immediately taken to the

1324
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 4: hospital for x rays. Sounds like that's gonna be a

1325
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 4: season ender, a bummer for a team that could use

1326
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 4: some quality depth behind Jonathan Taylor because of his lack

1327
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 4: of consistency in terms of the health department over the

1328
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 4: last few years. But you just hate to hear that

1329
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 4: with any guy in camp having an end in such

1330
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 4: a fashion. But on the bright side, the QB competition

1331
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 4: not separating but getting better, more encouraging results. Anthony Richardson

1332
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 4: goes fourteen for eighteen unofficially of course, because everybody's hand

1333
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 4: tracking these. On Thursday night, he threw a couple of

1334
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 4: touchdown passes. He threw a beautiful deep ball to Ashton

1335
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 4: Duel and he threw for a touchdown. He threw another

1336
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 4: beautiful deep ball to Adie Mitchell, who needs to make

1337
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 4: some strides in his second season. Richardson wasn't perfect, of course,

1338
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 4: He kind of flopped in an end of game scenario.

1339
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 4: I think they put like forty six seconds on the

1340
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 4: clock that sort of thing. Daniel Jones was a little

1341
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 4: bit better in that portion. He finished twenty two for

1342
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 4: twenty seven and threw a perfect pass to Ady Mitchell,

1343
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 4: who sounds like he might be coming around a little bit.

1344
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 4: But there's no separation, like I said, And I think

1345
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 4: the real test of this battle is going to come

1346
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 4: up against quite an opponent in Baltimore when they have

1347
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:25,919
Speaker 4: joint practices with the Ravens. Other injury related news, Zira

1348
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 4: Franklin returns to the field for the first time after

1349
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 4: undergoing offseason surgery. Jalen Jones has a concerning hamstring injury.

1350
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 4: So both sides of the coin there, and last but

1351
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 4: not least, of course, the first round pick tight end

1352
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 4: Tyler Warren.

1353
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 3: He's balling.

1354
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 4: He made a great juggling catch that they set to

1355
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 4: cinematic music that they put on Twitter, which was it's

1356
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 4: a fun watch.

1357
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:47,919
Speaker 3: Go check it out.

1358
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. If you're watching on NFL daily, you can

1359
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: see the play. We'll take the cinematic music out of

1360
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: the mix. But was an incredible catch on a not

1361
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: a great throw by Daniel Jones. It does feel shook

1362
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: like the quarterbacks have been, at least according to the

1363
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: people watching, probably a little better than expected overall. Now

1364
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: I look at the cornerbacks that are not there, you know,

1365
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: for the Colts overall, and like it. There should be

1366
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: a lot of mismatches for them to pick on. But overall,

1367
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, maybe we're at like a

1368
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: slight pleasant surprise on balance with Richardson maybe having like

1369
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: the slightest of leads. Shane Stiken had a quote during

1370
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: the week that said, I think everything's cleaner now talking

1371
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: about Richardson.

1372
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 2: He's playing at a high level.

1373
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: He's making good decisions with the football, taking completions when needed.

1374
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: It's been really good to see now. He followed up

1375
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: that good scrimmage you mentioned with supposedly like his worst

1376
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: practice of the entire training camp, but then follow that

1377
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: up with Sunday it looked better.

1378
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 2: Like it's a process.

1379
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: I'm following these every day, and on balance, I think

1380
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 1: that's kind of the big takeaway. And I saw this

1381
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:01,439
Speaker 1: note from Indianapolis Stars Nate Akin where he was like, yeah,

1382
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: Jones has been really solid, but you just kind of

1383
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: want to see him just just rip one occasionally, just

1384
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,479
Speaker 1: like go for it. And I'm just thinking like, yeah,

1385
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: welcome to that end of Dame Jones. Ever since that

1386
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: rookie year, that rookie year, I'm telling you you go back,

1387
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: he was ripping it. Then something happened where whether it

1388
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: was injuries or Dable programmed it out of him, I've

1389
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: never seen that guy again. So you're gonna be waiting

1390
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: a while. And right now I think if it's tied,

1391
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna the tie is gonna go to Richardson.

1392
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they have more investment in and then they

1393
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 3: need him to prove it. So I agree with that.

1394
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 4: Finally, well, we've got two more teams left in the

1395
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 4: AFC South Jacksonville Jaguars were you know, of course, the

1396
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 4: main focus is still on Travis Hunter, but a little

1397
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 4: bit less than before. We do have to give a

1398
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 4: snap up date. He played thirty eight snaps at their

1399
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 4: scrimmage at their stadium, seventeen at the first team offense,

1400
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 4: twenty one with the first team defense.

1401
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 3: So he's still.

1402
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 4: Very much doing both sides of the field and it'll

1403
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 4: be interesting to see again how this plays out in

1404
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 4: an actual game. He caught repasses for forty three yards,

1405
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 4: including a twenty one yard reception, and overall got positive

1406
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 4: marks from William Cohen, who.

1407
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 3: Said, I thought it was great.

1408
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 4: We got on the work that we wanted to get

1409
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 4: him on offense early and then able to get him

1410
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 4: on defense and get him enough reps. That's pretty stock there,

1411
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 4: not so promising for a guy we love. Brian Thomas

1412
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 4: Junior up and down week for him. He had a

1413
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 4: great day Friday, six catches, sixty five yards, a couple

1414
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 4: of touchdowns, and then Saturday. You understand how fleeting success

1415
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 4: can be in the NFL. He'd struggled with some frustrating completions.

1416
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 4: At one point, I think he took the ball after

1417
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 4: a play and threw it and it hit a bystander

1418
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 4: in the leg, just because he was that upset with

1419
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 4: how things have been going, So I think that there's

1420
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 4: still progress to be made.

1421
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 3: Now, could that suggest the defense is playing better?

1422
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think I know enough about the Jaguars

1423
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 4: over the last few years that they probably still have

1424
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 4: a ways to go offensively. And then in the injuries department,

1425
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 4: Baseil Tooting, the rookie running back held out of Thursday

1426
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 4: session with a hamstring issue. Always got to be a

1427
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 4: little bit worried about that. Linebacker Dennis Gardeck has an

1428
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 4: issue as well, So keep an eye on both of those.

1429
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: Right when you hear that about Brian Thomas Junior, I

1430
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: never know what to think, like does this matter a lot?

1431
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 1: Because you're right, it's been a steady drum beat, like

1432
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: a lot of drops and by him like all camp,

1433
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 1: like he's not having a great camp for a guy

1434
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of pressure on to be a

1435
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: top ten type of receiver, because that's the type of

1436
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 1: talent that he showed. I tend to not be too

1437
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 1: worried about it if it's just drops in concentration like

1438
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: he's shown he can play when it really matters. John Shipley,

1439
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: who's really good covering them for SI dot Com, said

1440
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: he thought this is you know, one of, if not

1441
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence's best camps, And so that's notable to me.

1442
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: He's been at all those camps and it's a new

1443
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: head coach. It's a good sign because, in Shipley's words,

1444
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: he thought, well, maybe Lawrence isn't like always been the

1445
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: best at practicing.

1446
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 2: He's more of a gamer, And I.

1447
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: Get that, but I also think, well, what truly great

1448
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: quarterbacks aren't great practice quarterbacks, Like, I don't think there's

1449
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: many put it that way for the most part. If

1450
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: you are going to be a great NFL quarterback, you're

1451
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: going to be dominating and you're going to be extremely

1452
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: consistent in practice. So so it's I think that's a

1453
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: really good sign though that he's been better. And it

1454
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: does feel like the game is slowing down a little

1455
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: bit for Hunter in terms of the playbook, Like that's

1456
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 1: what Brian Thomas Junior said too, He's starting to pick

1457
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 1: it up and by all accounts like Hunter had his

1458
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: best days of camp day after day after day, like

1459
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, that it's like it's

1460
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: happening for him now, which is just very exciting.

1461
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 4: I think Hunter, because of the athlete that he is,

1462
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 4: and just the football player that he is, He's going

1463
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 4: to be a camp star annually until it gets to

1464
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 4: the point where he doesn't have to take as many

1465
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 4: reps just because he's that type of football player. But

1466
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 4: it is interesting to me because this is now the

1467
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 4: latest test of how productive and how believable is the

1468
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 4: Tampa Bay Buccaneers offensive coordinator to head coach factory. How

1469
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 4: how much can we rely on that pipeline? You know,

1470
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 4: is this Glennville High School to Ohio State in the

1471
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 4: early two thousands or not, because you saw what Dave

1472
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 4: Canalis did with Bryce Young and Carolina last year, albeit

1473
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 4: he had to bench him and then bring him back later.

1474
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 4: But now the test is for Liam Cohen and there's

1475
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 4: no better situation for Liam Cohen to prove that, yes,

1476
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 4: that pipeline is strong than by turning Trevor Lawrence into

1477
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 4: something that we've been.

1478
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 3: Waiting for him to become for the last three years.

1479
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 4: So if it starts in practice where he's suddenly become

1480
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 4: a better practice quarterback, then maybe the results are ahead

1481
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 4: for us.

1482
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 3: Of course, it remains to be seen.

1483
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm also a little concerned Ark Armstead like is

1484
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: never healthy for them still hasn't practiced in team drills

1485
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 1: at all, so just that move has not worked out

1486
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 1: for them so far.

1487
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 2: Just something to.

1488
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 4: Watch, no, I mean when he was in the Super

1489
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 4: Bowl a the Niners a couple of years ago. I

1490
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 4: remember him like that week talking about how he was

1491
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 4: hurt all over. So it just kind of a it's

1492
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 4: a position that's tough on the body.

1493
01:06:59,080 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 3: All right.

1494
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 4: Finally in the AFC South, we go to Tennessee, where

1495
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 4: we probably shouldn't be surprised that the defense is still

1496
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 4: ahead of the offense.

1497
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 3: How ahead of it? You ask? Well, Cam word as

1498
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 3: a great description of just how ahead they are.

1499
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 6: I just think we're very meet right now, from opposition

1500
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 6: to upfront to the receivers position. But at the end,

1501
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 6: they all starts with me. I just I just don't

1502
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 6: think at where we need to be. But we got

1503
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 6: we got a little bit of times, so every day

1504
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:28,439
Speaker 6: we get better as a whole. We're a young team.

1505
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 4: That's no excuse that right there falls in line with

1506
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 4: what we did last week we talked about aura.

1507
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 3: Can we use the term aura?

1508
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 4: Can we use the term mid for those who are

1509
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 4: unfamiliar with the term mid. It's just like average, just

1510
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 4: not impressive, just very forgettable. That's basically what he's saying

1511
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 4: about the offense right now. So not encouraging, but at

1512
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 4: least you're hearing a rookie quarterback admit, you know, not fault,

1513
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 4: but that they need to be better.

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01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 3: I like that out of a young guy like that.

1515
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 1: Here's the thing about bed though, like mid has come

1516
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 1: to mean bad. But Moni Jones has a great rant

1517
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: about this. But Mid is supposed to be mid. You know,

1518
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be average. You know, I believe it was,

1519
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: you know, initially used to be you know, describing the

1520
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 1: you know, the forty dollars baggie you're getting, you know

1521
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 1: that might have a little too many seeds in it.

1522
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 1: But Mid is supposed to get the job done. It's

1523
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:23,719
Speaker 1: not supposed to be the worst thing in the world.

1524
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 1: I would describe what we've heard about the Titans offense,

1525
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 1: including Sunday by the way, cam word was five for

1526
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 1: fourteen and team drills according to Titans dot Com, and

1527
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 1: I go through and there's a lot of those ugly

1528
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 1: crooked numbers. That's not MID. That's worse, Like that's bad.

1529
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: MID would just be like what's going on at colts

1530
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 1: camp is probably mid. You know, it's like it's been

1531
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:47,480
Speaker 1: pretty decent, it's been fine.

1532
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 3: Now unlike Aura.

1533
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 4: This was a very accurate description and discussion on the term,

1534
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 4: and I thank you for that. You know, a real

1535
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 4: pro as always, and I agree it comes with the

1536
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 4: negative connotation, but you're right, this is worse than mid.

1537
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,600
Speaker 4: So hopeful they get beyond mid suddenly upgrade, but it

1538
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 4: takes time.

1539
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 2: It'll get you, it'll get you buy. You know, let's

1540
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 2: not be ye. It'll do.

1541
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 3: It'll do the job, but it's not gonna blow your

1542
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 3: socks off.

1543
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 4: No, he's not throwing pixes often in practice, which is

1544
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 4: great because that was the issue last week. Brian Callahan

1545
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 4: still pretty annoyed by them. He's unloaded on them a

1546
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 4: few times in practice. He made them run at the

1547
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,679
Speaker 4: end of Saturday session, which is like very old school

1548
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 4: and also do we really need to do this in list?

1549
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 4: I think back to twenty nineteen when I was working

1550
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 4: with the Browns and Freddy Kitchen was a coach, and

1551
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 4: there were so many practice, so many fights during practice

1552
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 4: that he made them run gassers in the middle of

1553
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 4: a highly attended practice, which led to another thing that

1554
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 4: I won't discuss at this point that happened during those runs,

1555
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,600
Speaker 4: but pointed to me that like, oh God, maybe this

1556
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 4: team's in a bad place because he couldn't keep control

1557
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 4: of them. I think Callahan's just frustrated because he know

1558
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 4: he feels the pressure already. Uh, they are going to

1559
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 4: have a big test when they do joint practices with

1560
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 4: the Buccaneers this week. We're gonna find out just how

1561
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 4: mid they are because right.

1562
01:09:55,000 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, I read from Paul Kaharski, just not a

1563
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:04,799
Speaker 1: lot of juice at their camp. Like they had something

1564
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: in front of the fans at the stadium. It was

1565
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: like extremely hot, but you know the fans aren't really

1566
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 1: showing up. There's not a lot of juice. Maybe within

1567
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 1: the team there's actually not almost any position battles, which

1568
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 1: is weird for a team so bad. So usually that's

1569
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: sort of where the competition. Just not a lot of

1570
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 1: juice from the Titans right now. Lugerious need still out.

1571
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 1: You know, we need a little we need a little

1572
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 1: more juice. I mean that that that throw to cam Ward,

1573
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: I mean that throw to Sound that had some juice.

1574
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 2: That was professional. Let's see your development. I love it all.

1575
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 1: Right before we go, I just want to say congrats

1576
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 1: to the four gentlemen who went into Canton over the weekend.

1577
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 1: Antonio Gates, you know, did it like like nobody else,

1578
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: like stepped into the league and was like immediately one

1579
01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: of the best tight ends for a decade, great Sterling

1580
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 1: Sharp finally getting in. I love a guy who has

1581
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 1: a great peak. I think he waited too long. Frankly,

1582
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 1: I'll take a great peak over a longevity guy. Maybe

1583
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,480
Speaker 1: the best receiver top you know, three or four. Certainly

1584
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,719
Speaker 1: in the time he was in the NFL. Eric Allen,

1585
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 1: the former Eagles player and Saints player who rolled up

1586
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 1: a lot of interceptions. I was like, man, if Eric

1587
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 1: Allen makes the Hall of Fame like a Sante Samon

1588
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 1: was kind of similar in terms of just like racking

1589
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 1: up interceptions but.

1590
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 2: Probably not going to happen.

1591
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: And then Jared Allen shout out to him. I always remember,

1592
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: you know, I was covering the league early. One of

1593
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 1: the first guys that was really outspoken about holding out

1594
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: getting you know, very like held his ground to the

1595
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:50,440
Speaker 1: point where he got traded from the Chiefs to the Vikings.

1596
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 1: It was complicated because he earlier in his career, had

1597
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 1: had a couple of DUIs and was suspended from the NFL,

1598
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 1: which is which is really serious. But just an interesting

1599
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: player who talked about sobriety and at a time where

1600
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 1: like that wasn't the norm about that. He had to,

1601
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 1: you know, clean up his life and get sober. And

1602
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 1: he had a great Hall of Fame speech, so did

1603
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: Stirling Sharp. What he talked about in terms of brotherhood

1604
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 1: was really great. So congratulations to all them. And yeah,

1605
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: Alan just like a little different, like was early on

1606
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 1: player empowerment, early on being open about his battles with

1607
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 1: his demons. And obviously he came out in Canton, and

1608
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 1: congrats to all them and to you Shookie for being

1609
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 1: in Canton this week.

1610
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 4: And I got to give a shout out to Antonio

1611
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 4: Gates of course, because he's the pride of Kent State University.

1612
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 2: Baby.

1613
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 4: He never played it down to college football and he

1614
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 4: ends up in the Pro Football.

1615
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, right.

1616
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 4: He was the first of the basketball player to football

1617
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 4: player transition.

1618
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 2: You didn't know him, though, did you. He's before your time.

1619
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 3: No, he's much older than I am.

1620
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,640
Speaker 4: But I remember watching him lead the Kent State basketball

1621
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 4: team to the Elite eight in the NCAA tournament.

1622
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 1: Well, this is where our age difference, you know, because

1623
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,639
Speaker 1: he's younger than I am, so great player.

1624
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you were out of college, Antonio Gate.

1625
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 1: I thought it was very cool that Matt money Smith

1626
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 1: call of Antonio Gates breaking the tight end touchdown record

1627
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 1: was the last thing that you heard before Antonio Gates

1628
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 1: came onto the stage to reveal the bus.

1629
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 2: How cool is that, Matt money Smith.

1630
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen again too when Philip Rivers makes the

1631
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, if I have anything.

1632
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 2: To do about it.

1633
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: We went way over what I expected, but it was

1634
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 1: great talking to you, Shuki.

1635
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 2: We will be back on Monday.

1636
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 1: Like I said me, Patrick Claybon, the entire NFC man,

1637
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 1: when we're glazing up the Chargers, when we're bored by

1638
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 1: the Titans, when Shuoki's throwing to sound like a pro man,

1639
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 1: Football is back.