1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast. 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: Hopes for the new year actually begin with the NFL 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: Draft of college players. 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 3: All right, here we go. We're throwing in so spect. 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 3: I'm sitting at the cash touchdown. 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: We see most gamblers when they go to gamble, they 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 2: go to wind. 8 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 3: That's incredible. 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: Big bank, small bank. 10 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: I like to make money. 11 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: All right, that is the ultimate kabine. 12 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 3: You want to pull. 13 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: And we are underway. Welcome into the Action Network Podcast. 14 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 4: We are presented by the FanDuel's Sportsbook. Your NFL Draft 15 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 4: betting Update one week. One week away from the twenty 16 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 4: twenty three draft. Brendan Glasheen, your host, joined by our 17 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 4: draft analysts experts Luke swayin Vegas, Refund and Travis. 18 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: Reid were joining you every week. 19 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 4: We've got a lot to reveal in terms of what 20 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 4: we have coming up on the pod. That will come later, 21 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 4: but we're gearing up, fellas. We're getting close. We're a 22 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 4: week away from the draft. We're joining you midweek, recording 23 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 4: on a Wednesday, leading you up to the draft which 24 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 4: starts April twenty seventh. Lead story. It's been now for 25 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks. The odds movement for number 26 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 4: one pick first quarterback to go. Bryce Young is minus 27 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 4: twelve hundred at fandel to go number one. A week 28 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 4: ago when we were doing this podcast, he was at 29 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 4: minus three hundred. Things have changed. Bryce has ended his visits. 30 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 4: We'll dive into CJ. Stroud, will Levis is gaining steam. 31 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: Luke. 32 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 4: As far as where we're at now from when we 33 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 4: were a week ago, what jumps out to you from 34 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 4: an odds movement perspective. 35 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: It's the nothing. I think it can be assumed that 36 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: Bryce is the number one pick at this point. Crazier 37 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 3: things have happened in terms of Powell. I guess you 38 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: could say from MBA, but really I'm kind of the 39 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: number one pick. I'm kind of just assuming it's Bryce. 40 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 3: Where it really gets crazy with what's going on with 41 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: the number two pick now, where there's one hundred different 42 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 3: scenarios that it could go, and based on whichever scenario happens, 43 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 3: which we just got added an additional scenario with Trey Lance, 44 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: the entire top ten can be completely different depending on 45 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: who goes to The only certainty I think not certainty, 46 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 3: but what I feel strongest about is probably that CJ. 47 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 3: Strout isn't going number two, right now where it might 48 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: be a d line, a trade or Levis, but also 49 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: that can change by the time we're ending recording here. 50 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: So as of this exact moment, that is my only 51 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 3: lean on that pick. But number one pick kind of 52 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 3: feels like it's wrapped up at this point and we're 53 00:02:58,560 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: just moving on to the rest. 54 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 4: Travis, you have a take on what the Trey Lance 55 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 4: report today from Rapaport means. We'll get to that, but 56 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,839 Speaker 4: reaction to where we're at in terms of the number 57 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 4: one pick market, Bryce Young the favorite, and we'll dive 58 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 4: into the intricacies of Stroud and Levis. But your latest 59 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 4: developing opinions, Travis Reid on what's happening here since we 60 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 4: last talked. 61 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously not great for the portfolio if Bryce does 62 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 2: go number one. We were all kind of rooting for 63 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: anyone but him, but you just kind of live with that. 64 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: I think the biggest update is, Yeah, the hinge point 65 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: of the draft. We always thought that was going to 66 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: be three with Arizona. Would they trade down, would they 67 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: just take will Anderson? And now it seems like Houston 68 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: is not set on taking a quarterback or at two, 69 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: So that hinge point has moved up a spot. So 70 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: now that's really where the draft begins. Do they take 71 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: a quarterback, do they trade for a quarterback, do they 72 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: take a defensive player, do they trade down. There's a 73 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: ton of different options there and something hopefully we'll learn 74 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: in the next week that what Houston's plans are and 75 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: that'll kind of let us set the rest of the 76 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: top ten and really the draft from there on out. 77 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 4: We've been documenting a timeline of quarterback visits, and more 78 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 4: so at this point Stroud and Levis because as we 79 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 4: set up the top that Bryce Young has now ended 80 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 4: his visit. 81 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: So for CJ. 82 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 4: Stroud five days ago met with the Colts, last couple 83 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 4: of days Panthers Falcons. But again it feels the Panthers 84 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 4: aren't just doing their due diligence with Young likely going 85 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 4: one there. Levis visited last Friday with Atlanta and then 86 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 4: early this week Colts and then Panthers. So Panthers last 87 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 4: minute visit for Levis, the last minute visit for Stroud 88 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 4: happening today Wednesday with the Atlanta Falcons. 89 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: He just heard that he has not done well on 90 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 3: that at all. 91 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: Hasn't done well with his visit with the Falcons. 92 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: No other teams, well, Falcons happened. Now I heard that 93 00:04:55,800 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 3: his meetings with some teams in the top five have 94 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 3: been pretty bad. And yeah, that can be taken for 95 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 3: whatever it's worth, and who knows, could be completely wrong. 96 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: But. 97 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it would explain this kind of overall feeling that 98 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: Stroud is falling because all the tape is there, all 99 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: the you know, you look at the games against like 100 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 2: Georgia and things like that, like, wow, he looks really good, 101 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: so why is he falling? That would explain, you know, 102 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: the things behind closed doors that were not seen where 103 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: he's not doing well. That would explain the overall sentiment 104 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: on him being down. 105 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. And and like there's when we discussed like which 106 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: we're going to get into Waiter, like when players are 107 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: like rising and falling. There's like two types where like 108 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: there's players rising and falling because we in the media 109 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 3: were just wrong on them. Like it's not like these 110 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 3: teams have all this had all of a sudden, they're like, oh, 111 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 3: player X, he just played yesterday. He looked great. Like 112 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 3: it's not like all of a sudden, these guys are 113 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 3: jumping off draft boards because teams are realizing something it's 114 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 3: really just us having these players propped up are too 115 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 3: low and last second, realizing that they're better than what 116 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 3: everyone's been the perception has. And then there's guys like 117 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: Stroud who are actually there's things that are happening that 118 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: could be making them fall where we might have been 119 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 3: right and he's just blowing it. So it can be 120 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 3: taken two ways. 121 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 4: Jim Merces having fun with the people on Twitter, and 122 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 4: that's worth bringing up because the Colts hold a number 123 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 4: four pick and they are the favorite. Well, the pick 124 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 4: favorite at four is now Will Levis at plus one fifty. 125 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 4: As you both highlighted will Houston go defense, Well, the 126 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 4: Cardinals stay put at three and go defense. 127 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: Will Anderson the favorite to go two and to go 128 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: three at. 129 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 4: FanDuel Anderson Stroud co favorites at three, both at plus 130 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 4: two to fifty. But to bring in the Will Levis 131 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 4: component and why Stroud has fell, Luke, what from a 132 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 4: betting perspective, how do you wrap your head around the 133 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 4: of course the reporting, but now with the the market 134 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 4: shifting where Levis has now emerged as a legit threat 135 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 4: to Stroud going ahead of him. 136 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 3: Levis odds, I want to say, last week or two 137 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 3: weeks ago, like they're twenty to one and I think 138 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 3: they're all the way down to like plus three hundred, 139 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: or he's the second favorite for number two, he's a 140 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: favorite for number four, or at this point, like I 141 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 3: don't think we have any type of certainty where that 142 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: would make Levis like a value play. But at the 143 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 3: same time, like if you do believe in you do 144 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 3: get info, Levis plus two hundred or three hundred today 145 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: could very well become Levis minus two hundred tomorrow, which 146 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: would make that all of a sudden value. But I 147 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: think right now, based off of the odds with Levis, 148 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: it's really not worth worth it. I still think like 149 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 3: I would say d Line should is the favorite and 150 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: then Levis close behind, where like I do a mock 151 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: draft like I've mentioned every night, and the last two 152 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: nights I put Levis at number two. So I think 153 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: it's possible. This whole Trey Lance trade idea kind of 154 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: to me. I don't want to like buy into these 155 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: things happen. But we were talking on slack earliers like 156 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 3: is it worth bringing up? And then I said no, 157 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: And then since then is I feel like it's starting 158 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 3: to get legs where this whole trade staring with Houston 159 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 3: kind of confirms the fact that they might be taking 160 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 3: a quarterback at number two. So the trade doesn't happen, 161 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: maybe they take Levis. The trade happens, then they'll probably 162 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 3: go someone like Anderson or Tiree. Where Anderson's plus two 163 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: hundred Levis is I think like plus two fifty. 164 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, Travis, why didn't you take this time now away 165 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 4: in on this particular market. And again, we're gonna get 166 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 4: in the defensive line angle next, because that is where 167 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 4: it feels like Houston's going with Demiko. 168 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: Ryan's defensive minded coach. 169 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 4: Not gonna go quarterback. Possibly defense d line will dive 170 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 4: into that aspect. But you've got thoughts here on this 171 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 4: Trey Lance report which I can read for you. 172 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: This is from me and Rapidport. The Niners have. 173 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 4: Received inquiries from several teams. There's that several teams line. Again, 174 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 4: Chefter had that with the Cardinals. 175 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: Too, Several teams in on a potential trade for former 176 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: number three overall pick Trey Lance. 177 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 4: The conversations have been the result of San Francisco fielding 178 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 4: the calls. They're not making them teams aware. This last 179 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 4: part to me is wow, it's alarming just from a 180 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 4: they're kind of done with Trey Lance. According to this, 181 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 4: teams are aware that Brock Purdy is likely the future 182 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 4: starter and he's already heard, so who knows his future. 183 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 4: But Travis, you do think this has an impact on 184 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 4: what we could see at the top of the draft. 185 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it makes more sense. Maybe not 186 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: for the top of the draft, but those teams that 187 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: were looking to trade in like instead of like Tennessee 188 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: having to trade a haul of picks to move up 189 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: into that top five to make, you know, to get 190 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 2: a quarterback that they want, they can probably trade a 191 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 2: Day two pick to get Trey Lance, who's only twenty two. 192 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 2: I mean this Hindon Hooker thing at twenty five coming 193 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: off in ACL you can get a guy who's three 194 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: years younger, you know, at the second or third round pick. 195 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: So I think these I mean, yeah, I think Trey 196 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 2: Lance has to be in play for some of these 197 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: teams that are looking for a quarterback, especially if they're 198 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: not in love with a Stroud because of his bad meetings, 199 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: if they don't think Anthony Richardson is ready, but their 200 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: roster is pretty good to contend right now. You know, 201 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: he's kind of still a mystery box. We haven't seen 202 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: Trey Lance play a ton of games, but he's he's 203 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: going to cost less than some of these other quarterbacks 204 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 2: that are also mystery boxes. So I think it makes 205 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 2: a lot of sense. It'd be really funny if the 206 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: Raiders just had Jimmy g and Lance again on the 207 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 2: same team. I don't see him doing that, but that 208 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: would be the most hilarious outcome. But yeah, one of 209 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 2: these teams that doesn't have a long term answer, if 210 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 2: they want to take a shot on Lance, it makes 211 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: all the sense in the world. 212 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: You know, say the Colts too, bringing the Colts back 213 00:10:59,080 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: into this. 214 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 4: They've been to Trey Lance in some fascinating ways leading 215 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 4: up to when he was drafted by San Francisco. But 216 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 4: the Colts were interested in Trey Lance a couple of 217 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 4: years ago, and that's a factor too. 218 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 3: And I don't know if this is like an angle 219 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 3: that's just overplayed by everyone, But like all of the 220 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 3: trade scenarios that make the most sense with Houston are 221 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 3: in division, so like Titans and Cults are the ones 222 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 3: that make probably the most sense from everything that we hear, 223 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: great point. But like then you have the whole teams 224 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 3: don't want to trade in division, which I think Jeremiah 225 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 3: had a tweet where the potential trade partners that Houston 226 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 3: could have or the potential quarterbacks that they might pass 227 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: on their indivision rivals could be very likely to have them, 228 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 3: which could be like a whole backfiring aspect in itself. 229 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:53,479 Speaker 4: So a number two the Texans based on this market adjustment, 230 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 4: market movement, whatever you want to call it, since we 231 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 4: last chatted with the people a week ago, the Texans 232 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 4: are now probably going defense. 233 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: Now. 234 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 4: Will Anderson's the favorite to go number two, not by 235 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 4: much plus two hundred, as you both have highlighted Stroud 236 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 4: plus two to fifty, Levis plus two to fifty Tyree 237 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 4: Wilson his name is at plus four hundred, so he's 238 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 4: moved up the board here. Luke, you have a pick 239 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 4: you want to weave into this as well what the 240 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 4: Texans might do at two, and you. 241 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: Sort of adhere to it a bit. 242 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 4: It gets complicated because say someone does want to move 243 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 4: up to the Texans really have interest in trading within 244 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 4: in the division to give Tennessee or to give Indianapolis 245 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 4: a leg. 246 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: Up on their future at quarterback. 247 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 4: So your overall thoughts on what you have a pick 248 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 4: in the middle of this here too. 249 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'll have two picks. I'll give one out 250 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 3: now and then i'll give one out at the end 251 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 3: of the show. But I think one is worth a 252 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 3: stat actually doesn't have to do with the pick, but 253 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 3: Tyree Wilson, first defensive player taking I think he's going 254 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 3: to be like plus three hundred right now is definitely 255 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 3: worth a bet Zerline has been a common theme of 256 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 3: any podcasts you listen to, because honestly, he's been great 257 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: replying to a ton of tweets, but everything that you hear, 258 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 3: like number the Texans could go D line and the 259 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 3: Cardinals could go D line. Where Zeroline had Tyree ahead 260 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 3: of Anderson in his mock a couple of weeks ago, 261 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 3: and then you also are seeing some things about Anderson 262 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 3: measurables are like his quote unquote bend isn't what teams 263 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 3: where the upside of Tyree is a lot higher, and 264 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 3: Tyree feels like someone that is on the rise, that 265 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 3: is very much in that range that you could see 266 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 3: going and at like plus three hundred, which it's honestly 267 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 3: not terrible value. It's never gotten crazy high. I think 268 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 3: the highest it ever got was like plus five hundred 269 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 3: or something, But it does feel like Anderson's stock, even 270 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 3: though he should it should be the favorite, is somewhat 271 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 3: coming down where everything that we're seeing is kind of 272 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 3: leveraging Tyree to go to where three, which I prefer 273 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 3: first defensive player odds because if a QB goes too, 274 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: I think Tyree's very much in play for the Cardinals 275 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 3: over Anderson. But at the same time we got a 276 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 3: Zerline pumping Tyree up. Where the most interesting part about 277 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: how Zeroline has talked about comparing Anderson and Tyree. So 278 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 3: forget if it was on a podcast or it was 279 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: a tweet reply, but he was speaking to Tyree having 280 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 3: a good chance to go ahead of Anderson. But at 281 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: the same time, Zeroline is someone that values his rankings 282 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 3: a lot, and he has Anderson ranked ahead of Tyree 283 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 3: in his like big board, which speaks to like, that's 284 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 3: what he thinks teams are going to be doing. Which 285 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: the fact that he's like admitting to Tyree going ahead 286 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 3: of Anderson even though he has Anderson ranked ahead, just 287 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 3: tells me like teams could be higher on Tyree, so 288 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 3: plus three hundred definitely worth a bet. 289 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 4: That makes sense because as you as you mapped out, 290 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 4: if indeed they do make a deal meaning the Texans 291 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 4: and trade out of two, that still gives you wiggle 292 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 4: room for the Cardinals to select. And now looking back 293 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 4: on it, that's zerline mock draft from early April. 294 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: Isn't all as drunk as we thought? 295 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 4: Huh Young one, Tyree, Wilson two, Anderson three. Now Stroud 296 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 4: goes to the Ravens. I have not cracked me I 297 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 4: from wrong. I don't think CJ. Stroud has met with 298 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 4: the Ravens in a visit, right, has that happened? 299 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: His visits are definitely picking up, which speaks to like true. 300 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 3: It seems like a last ditch effort. So I don't 301 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: think the Ravens and met with him. I think the 302 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: Ravens and met with I don't know. 303 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: But Richardson. They've met with Richardson. We're pretty sure there. 304 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: But they have not met with with with C J. Stroud. 305 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: But the top three is looking kind of enticing now. 306 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 4: They but now if there's no deals, of course, no trades, 307 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 4: and they just go one two, three quarterback, two defensive 308 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 4: players and that could set up the Levis smoke, which 309 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 4: that's what Zerline did not have in his projection earlier 310 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 4: on us your latest thoughts here on if you if 311 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 4: you have a pick, please please fire away. But number 312 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 4: two pick Texans Cardinals defensive player. How it all works 313 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 4: its way back to the to the Levis stuff too. 314 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I think it's tempting to try to take 315 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 2: shots on who's the number two pick going to be, 316 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: who's the number three pick going to be, who's the 317 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: number four pick going to be? But I think Luke 318 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: played it the right way and just selecting, Okay, who's 319 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: the first out of these out of the groupings, because 320 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: it's still a mess because we don't know if those 321 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 2: trades are going to come in or not, so we 322 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: don't know if a QB is going it to the 323 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: way we've been talking about. It sounds kind of messy 324 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: all through that two through five range. It's because it is, 325 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: so it's kind of tough to predict exactly like slotting 326 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: in a player at each spot, but you can kind 327 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: of say, Okay, I think this guy's going ahead of 328 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: this guy. That's where you want to make your bets 329 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: right now, rather than just try to actually nail the one, two, three, four. 330 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: Maybe by next week we'll have a better idea of Okay, 331 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 2: now we think we can actually hit all those, but 332 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: I think there's just two many moving parts, you know, 333 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 2: too many quarterbacks. I have to kind of fall off 334 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: the carousel before we can start to say, all right, 335 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 2: I'm plugging this guy at too, plugging in this guy 336 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 2: at three, so you're better off. I think taking bets on, 337 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 2: you know, first defensive player. If they have a second 338 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 2: quarterback market, you go on to take your bet there, 339 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 2: rather than plugging him in at two, three, four or 340 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: wherever you may be in the top five. 341 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: Gay, what's our latest feeling on the Cardinals? Has anything changed? 342 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: We don't really know. I mean that chef to report. 343 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 4: They were like the talk of the draft because everyone 344 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 4: felt it was like, okay, it's going to be either 345 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 4: Stroud or Young and at that time, of course we 346 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 4: didn't know. It was kind of going back and forth. 347 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 4: Stroud was the favorite that of course everything flipped. But 348 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 4: now I feel like the Cardinals are on the back 349 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 4: burner of the news cycle. 350 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: Luke, it always feels like when trades are talked about 351 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 3: the most, that never happened, and then when they're not 352 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 3: talked about, everything goes off the rails. Where yeah, like 353 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 3: the Cardinals trading out of three has been one of 354 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 3: the strongest storylines from day one, where I think multiple 355 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 3: quote unquote experts have like deemed them a ninety nine 356 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 3: percent chance of trading out. But I was like within 357 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 3: the like last week, and it really has to do 358 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 3: with whether the Texans are going to take a quarterback 359 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 3: or not. It does feel like it has become less 360 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 3: likely where the Cardinals might just be stuck where you 361 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 3: hear about these quarterbacks potentially falling with the value of 362 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 3: number three not being what it was perceived weeks ago, 363 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 3: where if the Cardinals are stuck, like you would assume 364 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 3: it's e to one of Anderson and Tiree, but it 365 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: really hinges on if Straus there, If Strauser he's not there, 366 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 3: someone wants to trade up for someone like ar Like 367 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 3: it is chaos, But it does feel like it's become 368 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 3: less likely than what's been perceived this entire time, and 369 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 3: they might be might get stuck because of based on 370 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 3: whatever the Texans do. 371 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 4: Travis is just simple for Arizona to take the best 372 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 4: man on the board, So if it's not Wilson they 373 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 4: settle with, they settle with will Anderson, or do they 374 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 4: just take the best available player. What do you think 375 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 4: Arizona's doing at this point with no real news in 376 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 4: the last week or so. 377 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they still want to trade down. I 378 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 2: think Schrager mentioned in his mock you know they want 379 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: to get out of that pick. But if the whole 380 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: market is down on you know, the quarterback position relative 381 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: than what we thought a couple of weeks ago, their 382 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 2: pick's just not as valuable as we thought it was. 383 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: So if nobody is itching to move up to number three, 384 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 2: they're just going to have to take that best player available. 385 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: I think that's got to be one of the edge rushers. 386 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: They could go corner if they really really liked one 387 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: of the top two guys. But I'd be pretty surprised 388 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 2: if they don't trade the pick, If they don't take 389 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: one of those top two edge rushers. 390 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 4: And the market reflects that number three pick over at 391 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 4: FanDuel Anderson, Stroud, Richardson all at plus two fifty, So 392 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 4: there's just there's no play there based on what we've discussed. Yeah, 393 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 4: this this I'm looking forward to the Peter Schrager mock draft. 394 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 4: I always like when we come on here we do 395 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 4: this is what our fourth fifth episode now doing the 396 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 4: these betting updates, these NFL draft betting updates, and we 397 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 4: don't always get a fresh mock, but fresh off the press, 398 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 4: Peter Schrager as of yesterday yesterday morning latest mock. He's 399 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 4: got Rice young one, he's got Stroud going to Cardinals. 400 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 4: Take Anderson, and he echoes exactly what you both talked 401 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 4: about as far as if there's nothing there, take the 402 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 4: best available smart safe pick in Will Anderson. Wilson goes 403 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 4: to four. 404 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: I haven't said Will Levis's name yet, but we'll. 405 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 4: Just we'll skip on down and you guys, of course, 406 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 4: can tell them if there's anything else you'd like to 407 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 4: fill in the blanks here on the on the Schrager mock. 408 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 4: But there's Hendon Hooker number eleven overall to the Tennessee Titans. 409 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 4: And this goes back to the market of over under 410 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 4: quarterbacks taken in the first round at four and a half. 411 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 4: There was sig significant, significant juice on taking the under 412 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 4: four and a half, and now it's kind of shrinking 413 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 4: where it could possibly go either way with this Hendon 414 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 4: Hooker stock rising over four and a half is at 415 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 4: minus one two under four and a half, minus one thirty. 416 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 4: And of course there's some Cardinals ti ins well in 417 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 4: there as well, some Arizona Cardinals ti ins as well. 418 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 4: There Will You're not Will Levis here, Luke, Swayne Luke, 419 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 4: do you have thoughts on this mocking? By the way, 420 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 4: levis going twelve to Houston, so he's got Hooker at eleven, 421 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 4: Levis at twelve. 422 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 3: So overall, I thought it was less crazy than I 423 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 3: think everyone made it out to be outside of the quarterbacks, 424 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 3: where like everything else, like it was just kind of 425 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 3: against the grain, but it made sense. And Schrager is 426 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 3: one of the more connected guys in terms of the 427 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 3: mock drafts. He is a very good schmoozer from everything 428 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 3: that I heard, like he winds and Dyings guys have 429 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: confirmed that his connect at the car is still there. 430 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 3: But the thing with Hennon Hooker is and I for me, 431 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 3: I just refuse to bet the over, but I'm also 432 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 3: too scared to bet the ender or excuse me, yeah, 433 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 3: under and the thing you want to look out for 434 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 3: over like the next week as mock drafts come out 435 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 3: and it definitely feels like Hennon Hooker has a ton 436 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 3: of momentum. But if we start seeing mock drafts that 437 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 3: are putting Hendon Hooker to the same team, for me, 438 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 3: that's means something. That means something. Where these mock drafts, 439 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 3: these guys, like the key guys, like the Jeremiah's, the Schreggers, 440 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 3: the Brewlers, they put him to the same team in 441 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 3: all of their mocks. That means that tells me, like 442 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 3: something is known. But if we just have guys putting 443 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 3: Hooker in the first round to a different team on 444 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 3: every mock basically because they think he's worthy of a 445 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: first round pick, that's when I don't totally buy it. 446 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 3: And that's just kind of like something that maybe it's 447 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 3: like a copycat mock draft, but Hooker at eleven would 448 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 3: be nuts. But at the same time, and another thing 449 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 3: you want to note with these mock drafts is like 450 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 3: they want to like the mock ratings are becoming popular 451 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 3: after and they want to get it right. And player 452 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 3: two team, like, if you predict a specific player to 453 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 3: a team, no matter what the pick is, you get 454 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 3: x amount of points. So you will see mock drafts 455 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 3: that are like putting specific player like where Levis to 456 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 3: the Texans, Like you hear Plus to the Texans. You 457 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 3: hear that the Texans love Levis, which everyone's implying number two. 458 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 3: But the fact that Schreger put him at eleven twelve? 459 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,959 Speaker 4: Is it Hooker eleven and then Levis twelve? And then 460 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 4: after Richards into Seattle at the top of the draft, Schreger. 461 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 3: Putting him to the Texans just in general kind of 462 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 3: confirms everything that we've been hearing that they're high on them, 463 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 3: whether it's at and then we just got to figure 464 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 3: out if it's possible at two or not. But that 465 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 3: was the other thing I got out of it. And 466 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 3: then he had to the Cardinals. He had Tyree, which 467 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 3: that is like, first thing you should look at us 468 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 3: who the Cardinals which? 469 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 4: And that reflects your confidence in Wilson. Never mind what 470 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 4: team he goes to, but first defensive player off the. 471 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 3: Board, Yeah, which Anderson went first in his mock for 472 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 3: what its birth, But never mind them, but which if 473 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 3: he had put a QB first? But basically who knows 474 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 3: but his and he had a kid, so who hasn't 475 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 3: done a lot of mock drafts and he's back in 476 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 3: it and he still has one way to go. And 477 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 3: he is notorious for his second to last mock draft 478 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 3: being crazy because he kind of created the idea of 479 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 3: leveraging reactions from everyone. The crazier it is, the more 480 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 3: reactions you get from people that he respects, and he 481 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 3: kind of uses them to make his final mock draft 482 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 3: as accurate as possible. 483 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 4: So this is the mock before the mock correct. All right, 484 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 4: very good Travis. Thoughts on this latest mack that we 485 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 4: are and we look at different We've looked at different 486 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,479 Speaker 4: locks over the course of the podcast and these betting 487 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 4: draft betting updates from Peter Schrager, anything jump out to you. 488 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: I mean the hind and Hooker thing. I still just 489 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 2: don't understand, like at all. I just don't get it. 490 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 2: But it's one of those things we talked about one 491 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 2: of the early episodes. It's not what you think, it's 492 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: predicting what the NFL teams think. So I guess he's 493 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: in a in the first round conversation. So I'm kind 494 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: of in the same boat as Luke. I'm not going 495 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: to take the over of the under the four and 496 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 2: a half there, I thought Quentin Johnson falling to thirty 497 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 2: two was interesting because we have seen some other reports 498 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: that teams aren't as high as him, and really just 499 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: the wide receiver market in general was kind of overrated 500 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 2: by the media, especially at the beginning of this whole process, 501 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: and maybe there's not as many receivers going to go 502 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: in the first round as we originally thought, and that 503 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: kind of backed that up a little bit. So that 504 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: was one thing that did catch my eye. Is this 505 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: whole receiver thing. Still hoping JSN goes first, and he 506 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 2: has that, but maybe you know that backhand of the Drafters, 507 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: maybe only two or three other guys that go. So 508 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 2: that that was one other thing that cut my eye 509 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: about Schrager's block. 510 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 4: And trying to connect some dots to Schrager's mock, from 511 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 4: Schrager's doc, Schrager's mock to the market team to draft 512 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 4: handed Hooker tennesseees it ten to one, and they are 513 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 4: same odds as the Patriots, same as the Buccaneers. 514 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: The Vikings are the favorite to land them. 515 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 3: So and there was no way and I didn't see 516 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 3: what those odds were prior to his mock coming out, 517 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 3: but okay, those odds definitely got crushed by anyone reading 518 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 3: it just wanting it because hen and Hooker's odds are 519 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 3: high everywhere because they really don't have no doubt. And 520 00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 3: just to pivot off of what Travis said about Quinn Johnson, 521 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 3: that is one of the markets that I do have. 522 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 3: I had interest in a couple of days ago because 523 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 3: you hear him falling, which I believe, I bet is 524 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 3: over when it came out on Caesars and you hear 525 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 3: him falling and maybe not even making it into the 526 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 3: first for Schreger, Like I think this happened last year 527 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 3: and I forget who it was, but like you see 528 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 3: a player working out with Mahomes and all of a sudden, 529 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 3: everyone starts tweeting it, and all of a sudden, the 530 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 3: Chiefs become the favorite to take this guy just because 531 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 3: he's catching passes in practice. But you see Quentin falling 532 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 3: maybe out of the first which Quentin Johnson team odds 533 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 3: high everywhere, no one has any idea, and they've been 534 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 3: up forever and targeting a team in the early second round. 535 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 3: There are some really juicy ones where teams like that 536 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 3: are the trendy wide receiver teams. In the first round. 537 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 3: We have actually we have Texans, Giants, Vikings, Texans, Chargers, Ravens, 538 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 3: Vikings Giants. Yeah, I mean in Cardinals, Cardinals, even the Cardinals, 539 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 3: which the one that caught my eye the most was 540 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 3: Cardinals to get Quintin, which at the time week or 541 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 3: two ago I was like twenty five to one, where 542 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 3: that could be anyone's game, could be anyone trading up. 543 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 3: So if you think he's a great fit, or you 544 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 3: think someone in the early second round or even the Chiefs, 545 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 3: I guess could target Quinin, like, there are definitely some well, 546 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 3: I I. 547 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: See your point. 548 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 4: You're talking early second round now in case he does 549 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 4: fall there, right, So. 550 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 3: That way, because his odds have been priced out as 551 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 3: if he's going in the first, which the teams in 552 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 3: the early second got it like the favorites of the 553 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 3: back end first round. And if he doesn't even go 554 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 3: there and he falls to the early second, then you 555 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 3: got teams in the early first that haven't been priced 556 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 3: into Quinn that have the opportunity to get him or 557 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 3: trade up that are in like the twenties. Got twenties one. 558 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 4: Makes sense right because in Minnesota and the Giants, those teams, 559 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 4: I said, those teams because that would reflect bottom bottom 560 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 4: third of the first round, and that in the market 561 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 4: at FanDuel. I'm looking at it now, it reflects that 562 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 4: Minnesota plus five hundred Giants ten to one Ravens in 563 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 4: the middle sandwiched in between they pick at twenty two 564 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 4: plus six hundred. I to your point, Yeah, it gets 565 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 4: interesting because the Rams are at thirty six and they're 566 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 4: ten to one Texans and so on and so forth. 567 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 4: To echo your point, Okay, very good. So Peter Schringer 568 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 4: latest mock draft, you can find that at at NFL 569 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 4: dot com. If just is a reference point when you 570 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 4: listen to the podcast, that's what we're looking at. Came 571 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 4: out on April eighteenth. 572 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: Let's go to our friend lands. Zerline. 573 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 4: We always it's like it's like the zerline zerline minute. 574 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 4: We've got to come up with something because we always 575 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 4: bring up zeroline on the on the pod. And you've 576 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 4: mentioned you've mentioned this in previous episodes, Luke, that you're 577 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 4: just like blown away. 578 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: I just smacked my table and now my camera went flying. 579 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 4: Uh, you're blown away by the the way he replies 580 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 4: to people on social media and he gives legitimate info 581 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 4: and it could just be like one word like example, 582 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 4: someone asked him about Jon Robinson, the running back, if 583 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 4: Dallas has any chance of landing him. Of course, Dallas 584 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 4: moved on from Zeke Elliott, YadA, YadA, Jerry Jones would. 585 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: Love himself a star out of Texas. 586 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 4: Right, and he just drops an unlikely like that's that's 587 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 4: worthwhile information. 588 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: But what there's got to be some other things. 589 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 4: That jump out to you and just his approach to 590 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 4: it in general about how to use that info to 591 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 4: maybe bet and look at stuff. 592 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he'll just give like a straightened no, like 593 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 3: is right the player actually gonna go be ahead of player? 594 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 3: Why just goes no? But like it's better than it's like, which, 595 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 3: that's info. That's great. Like I don't know, I don't 596 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 3: think you want to take those like straight up nos 597 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 3: in the terms of like the context that some might 598 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 3: perceive it as like a zero percent chance. I think 599 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 3: he's just like firing off tweets like it's great because 600 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 3: people in his role that everyone looks to for mock 601 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 3: drafts and his expertise like don't reply to the majority 602 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 3: of the replies he gets on his stuff, and there 603 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 3: are some diamonds in the rough one hundred percent he 604 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 3: has there was one a couple like last week, I 605 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 3: want to say where you had to like connect and 606 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 3: you have to connect a few replies where he was 607 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 3: kind of going into he was saying it was going 608 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 3: off of Bryce going one, but then he said that 609 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 3: there's zero percent chance that Levis goes ahead of Stroud. 610 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 3: But then at the same then he replied to another 611 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 3: one saying one of the quarterbacks of the top four 612 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 3: falls out of the top ten, which if you connect 613 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 3: those dots, that means price is going on. If strad 614 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 3: is ahead of Levis for him, then Stroud would be 615 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 3: the second quarterback. But the fact that he's comparing it 616 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 3: to Levis means that the quarterback falling out of the 617 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 3: top ten would be Richardson in his opinion, So that 618 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 3: would be like the dot connecting, and it should be 619 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 3: taken that like he is the best connection we have 620 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 3: to the Texans. At the same time, he can't you 621 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 3: just have like you have to take what he says 622 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 3: for what it is. At the same time, don't just 623 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 3: automatically be like firing off that space off of every 624 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 3: reply he has like we don't know the level we 625 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 3: have like a new front office there or not a 626 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 3: new front office, we have a new head coach. We 627 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 3: don't know the level of sources he has relative to 628 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 3: previous years, and we don't know if this is just 629 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 3: his opinion, because he definitely has a strong opinion on 630 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 3: a lot of guys. So definitely looking his replies. But 631 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 3: at the same time, make sure you're not overreacting because 632 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 3: there are a lot of replies, lots of them. 633 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 4: See like, that's a tool for like Twitter, Elon, if 634 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 4: you're listening, I'll take credit for this, Like there should 635 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 4: be a favorite like like button, and then there should 636 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 4: be like, well, I guess that's a bookmark that's new, 637 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 4: So I give I guess, I give you long credit there. 638 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 4: That's what the bookmark would before you get a bookmark 639 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 4: some of these and then throw them into the endo, 640 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 4: the blender, and then it spits out what you think 641 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 4: is going to happen. So that so I guess I 642 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 4: take it back. It's not innovative, Elon, You've already done this. 643 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 4: It's the the bookmark is now the new like for 644 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 4: this kind of thing. 645 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's around for a while, Yeah, has it really? 646 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 2: Yeah it might be pre Elon, Actually, so. 647 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 4: Yes, I didn't know that I started seeing bookmark up 648 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 4: and I'm like, this was it was kind of the 649 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 4: option was buried. 650 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 3: He made it more visible for sure. 651 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: Okay, anyway, see, okay, fine, fair enough, Travis. 652 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 4: Anything you read into zerline at all, have already did 653 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 4: any update, Like again the b Jon Robinson just responds 654 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 4: to a tweeter unlikely one word' out that's. 655 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 2: It, yeah it's it's it's great. Information. UH i Think 656 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 2: luke already hit on. That it's it's pretty. Cool, there's 657 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 2: like you, said there's nobody else that does. That imagine 658 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 2: if you could just go Into shifter and just like, 659 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 2: hey ask him anything about the league and he just 660 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 2: told you straight up yes or, no how awesome that 661 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 2: would Be like that would just and that's kind of 662 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 2: what we. Have, again it's not, gospel Like luke, said 663 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 2: but there's a lot of information you can wean out 664 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 2: of those out of those. Tweets so if you're listening to, 665 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 2: this we, talked LIKE i THINK i was on the 666 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 2: very first, episode there's answers out. There that's a good 667 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 2: place to go get. Something you, know you can at 668 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 2: least get one guy who's plugged into the league and 669 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 2: he'll give you some answers of what he thinks is 670 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 2: going to happen in the, draft and that's super. 671 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 3: VALUABLE i MEAN i go through THEIR wi likes, too 672 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 3: LIKE i go Through jeremiah's likes on. 673 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 2: But seeing straight up stalking some, PEOPLE i love. 674 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 3: IT i have. To IT'S tmz time. 675 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 1: You guys had some thoughts on The falcons at number. 676 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 4: Eight AS i said, earlier The falcons are welcoming IN. 677 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 4: Cj stroud for a visit today and they have met 678 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 4: With levis as. Well but it feels like if they're 679 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 4: going To, stroud is that just the order of visits 680 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 4: TO i always find kind of. Fast does that mean 681 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 4: like their previous visit they're like A we're just doing due, 682 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 4: diligence or like actually we kind of we actually think 683 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 4: we have a chance at this, Guy so it changes your. 684 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: Approach so C. 685 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 4: J stroud as Of, Wednesday april, nineteenth in the building 686 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 4: for The, Cardinals, luke you've got thoughts on whatever with 687 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 4: The atlanta might be doing at. 688 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 3: Eight, yeah the late visits are very, telling specifically A 689 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 3: stroud where whether it's a last ditch effort for himself 690 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 3: because he thinks he might, fall or teams thinking he 691 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 3: might fall to, them or maybe applying that he might 692 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 3: not go where they thought and he could trade. Up 693 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 3: but there's a couple of trendy. Picks bijon has been 694 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 3: one of the more trendy picks to The. Falcons i'm at, 695 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 3: eight WHICH i DON'T i just can't get behind, totally 696 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 3: at least at his current, odds BECAUSE i think he 697 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 3: is the. Favorite, yes he is plus. 698 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: Two fifty at fandel to the team to Draft Bijeon 699 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: Robinson Atlanta. 700 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 3: Falcons, yeah AND i think The raiders And falcons are 701 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 3: alive if a quarterback falls for a team to trade, 702 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 3: up whether it's like a team like The, titans or 703 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 3: maybe even The texans if they GO d line and 704 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 3: they don't do a trade with like For Trey. Lance let's, 705 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 3: say But Nolan smith is the one that's trending for The, 706 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 3: falcons WHICH i think that is a hot trade spot 707 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,959 Speaker 3: Because Nolan smith is a guy that they very likely 708 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 3: would get if they traded with like The. Titans let's, 709 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 3: say if they just swat picks And titans trade, up 710 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 3: you get someone like one of the quarterbacks that's. Falling 711 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 3: The falcons could very well Get Nolan. Smith at twelve 712 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 3: or eleven or twelve at the same. Time but you 713 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 3: the names you hear In Nolan, Smith lucas Van nash 714 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 3: in That bijon AND i THINK o line is somewhat 715 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 3: of a dark horse as, well WHICH i don't Think 716 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 3: shreker put all line. There now you put a line 717 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 3: to The, raiders which is a dark horse, Too But 718 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 3: nolan is definitely the pick for The falcons trending very, 719 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 3: hard whether it's at eight or like eleven or, twelve 720 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 3: WHICH i think it makes a total total. 721 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 4: Sense gravist thoughts on The. Falcons what they might be 722 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 4: doing is they've Got stroud in for a visit. Today 723 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 4: but any other position that you might find actionable or 724 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 4: something that you're keeping an eye. 725 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 2: On, YEAH i. AGREE i still wouldn't rule Out Jalen 726 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 2: carter falling, there although it looks like in the last 727 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 2: week maybe teams have kind of gotten over some of 728 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 2: the bumps and bruises that he had earlier in the. 729 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 2: PROCESS i do find it weird, that like When lamar became, 730 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 2: Available atlanta just straight out came, out we're not, Interested 731 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 2: we're going With. Ritter but now that, Okay stroud might 732 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 2: fall to, them they're going to take some meetings and 733 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 2: things like. That that's kind of an interesting double sided 734 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 2: like why would you not be interested In lamar to 735 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 2: upgrade your, quarterback but you are interested in drafting one 736 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 2: of these. Guys BUT i do think you want to 737 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 2: take as many of these meetings as you, can find 738 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 2: out you know everything you can about these young quarterbacks 739 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 2: and see what you want to. Do BUT i would 740 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 2: agree that defense is probably the most likely pick here 741 00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 2: still For. 742 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 4: Atlanta you, know it's always fun when and by the, 743 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 4: way the latest On Jalen carter could call to bring him, 744 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 4: up And i'm on His twitter page right. 745 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: Now it's Not. 746 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 4: Zerline It's Adam, Schefter georgia defensive Tackle Jalen carter visiting 747 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 4: The falcons, today which was. 748 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: Yesterday we're recording On april. Nineteenth this occurred On. 749 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 4: Tuesday Jalen carter visited The Falcons, tuesday so he's now 750 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 4: visited with every team picking between five and, Ten, Seattle, Detroit, Vegas, Atlanta, Chicago. 751 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 4: Philadelphia SO i want to bring up Something luke said 752 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 4: AND i laughed because it's like kind of right on. 753 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: Point but Now i'm kind of curious what your. 754 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,760 Speaker 4: Thoughts Are Adam schefter in the last since we started 755 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 4: Recording Boston college wide Receivers Dave, flowers Mel kiper's number 756 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 4: ten overall, Prospect schefter throwing the bone to his. Colleague 757 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 4: he's In texas today to work out With chiefs Quarterback 758 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 4: Patrick mahomes. 759 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 3: At the request of the. 760 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: Team per, source this is exactly what you laid. 761 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 4: Out mars believed his pre draft process was over after 762 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 4: visiting with The titans On tuesday until The chiefs called 763 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 4: and asked him to meet up today With. Mahomes that 764 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 4: almost feels made up based on what you almost knew 765 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 4: something like this was. 766 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 3: COMING i didn't even see, that AND i didn't know. 767 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 3: THAT i was just saying, it WHICH i don't Think 768 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 3: day would make it to thirty, one so you would. Assume, 769 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 3: SO i, mean that would be Like chiefs would have 770 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 3: to trade up for To. DAY i think that's. Hilarious 771 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 3: so you. 772 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 4: Don't think there's anything to it because you don't think 773 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 4: he'll Be you don't think he'll be there Unless Kansas 774 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 4: city trades, up. 775 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 3: RIGHT i think the only way they get to is 776 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 3: that they trade up for. 777 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: Him, OKAY i just. COULDN'T i mean that's, Like. 778 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 3: No that's. 779 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,760 Speaker 4: Amazing you literally Said mahomes. Too you could have said anyone, 780 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 4: else BUT i had to read. IT i read it 781 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,439 Speaker 4: three times While travis was talking to make, sure, okay 782 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 4: is it? Right, well all, right we'll wrap with THIS 783 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 4: seti final. Bets you guys want to get out there 784 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 4: before next, week And i've got a lot to tell 785 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 4: people about for next week because we have a lot 786 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 4: more coming besides just this weekly. Episode but anything picks, 787 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 4: wise we want to give out before we. 788 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 3: Go SO i got One i'm going to give. Out 789 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 3: So bill's first position, drafted defensive line should be around 790 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 3: plus five. Hundred four point. Fifty that's, fine but plus five. 791 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 3: Hundred the reasoning for this Is i've harped on it 792 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 3: a couple of, times but in this draft that it 793 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 3: has a weaker, class it is easy to predict position 794 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 3: in the picks top, five top ten because we know 795 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 3: who the best players. Are in a week. Draft there 796 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 3: is a drop off in, talent And i've spoken to 797 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 3: when we get towards the end of the, DRAFT i 798 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 3: think teams are going to go for need a lot 799 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 3: more than best player available because it really just isn't 800 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 3: a clear best player available relative to other. Drafts and 801 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 3: when we look at The bills right, now we have 802 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 3: linebacker and wide receiver currently. Favored which linebacker is a trendy, 803 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 3: pick and that is in, need but that is not 804 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 3: a premium, position AND i don't think linebackers should be 805 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 3: the favorite position for any team with any. Odds where 806 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 3: wide receiver we. Have we have four potential first round wide. 807 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 3: Receivers we have Jsn, Z, addison Quin quinn might be 808 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 3: falling out of the first and then those three might 809 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 3: not even be. There we have about four or five 810 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 3: teams trendy for the wide receiver. Position so we get 811 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 3: to The bills and they're four defensive linemen are on 812 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 3: the last year of their, contracts and then you Have 813 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 3: Ed oliver who might even get traded there are rumors. 814 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 3: About so it might not be a specific need, today 815 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 3: but next, year defensive line is going to be a glaring. 816 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 3: Need and when you get to the end of the first, 817 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 3: round all the offensive linemen might be, gone which is another. 818 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 3: Need but when we look at the defensive, line when 819 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 3: we got guys Like Mazzie, smith who would be a perfect, 820 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 3: Fit Kean white, McDonald guys that can't produce their, names 821 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 3: but the crop of defensive linemen that are worthy of 822 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 3: going in the first round far out ways offensive lineman to, 823 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,879 Speaker 3: me WHICH i almost gave out O, Line Andy line 824 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 3: because they're. BOTH i think they both should be the 825 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 3: favorite at this, point but at plus five, hundred like 826 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 3: it is one of the few great value BETS i 827 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 3: think exists in a spot in the draft that anything 828 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 3: could happen that ALMOST i feel like every position for 829 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,760 Speaker 3: a team that's had a ton of, success it doesn't 830 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 3: have any like huge, needs shouldn't have a. FAVORITE i 831 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,800 Speaker 3: think they all should be pretty much. Equal So bill's 832 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,839 Speaker 3: defensive line plus five, Hundred. 833 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: Travis any picks before we. Go. 834 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 2: YEAH i like the defensive back, market which includes both 835 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 2: corners and. Safeties it's over five and a half minus 836 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 2: one fourteen at. FanDuel there's six guys right now THAT 837 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 2: i think are solidly in the first and there's so 838 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,320 Speaker 2: you Got gonzales And witherspoon the two top. Corners Porter, 839 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,760 Speaker 2: Banks forbes has been and screaming up. Boards he's looking 840 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 2: like a pretty sure first. Rounder you also have branched 841 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 2: the safety From. Alabama you kind of have some wild 842 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 2: cards With ringo And Cam smith from THE sec as 843 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,720 Speaker 2: corners that are supposed to go like early second could sneak. 844 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 2: In SO i think over five and a half defensive 845 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 2: backs in the first round at FanDuel is a good. 846 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 3: Pick good. Bet AND i do want to mention With. 847 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 3: BRANCH i don't know IF i mentioned this, before but 848 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 3: the majority of sportsbooks are Grading branches a. Corner so 849 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 3: if you are betting like team, position make sure it's 850 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 3: defensive back and not a corner because if you, Look 851 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 3: fandel says position based off the combine in THE nfl 852 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,359 Speaker 3: dot com List branch as a, cornerback which every mock 853 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 3: everything you. SEE i was even assuming. It branch is 854 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 3: not a safety for what for creading, purposes which is. 855 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 4: Crazy and you got, yeah five and a half defensive, 856 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 4: backs both at over, under both at minus one. 857 00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:59,919 Speaker 1: Fourteen you said you like the over. 858 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 2: Over, YEAH i think there's at least six AND i 859 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,359 Speaker 2: think there's a chance you see some of those, guys 860 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 2: you might even get. 861 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 4: Seven all, right very, Good AND i just want to 862 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 4: update everybody To tucker craft first tight end drafted is 863 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,760 Speaker 4: still one hundred and one if you listened to last week's, 864 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,879 Speaker 4: Episode so not much movement. 865 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 3: There that's kind of, oh you, know IF i bet, 866 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:19,840 Speaker 3: it if it, wins. 867 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:20,439 Speaker 1: Okay very. 868 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 4: Good i'll try to drive up the up the highway 869 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 4: here and talk to Mister craft In foxborough to see 870 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 4: if he's got any thoughts on. 871 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 3: That you can bet the draft in m a. 872 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: Fly, YEAH i, Know i've got it up right. 873 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 3: Here good seven get. 874 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,919 Speaker 4: INVOLVED i, mean come, ON i, mean I I'm I'm 875 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 4: i've sunk my teeth in completely, here And i'll tell 876 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 4: you why you can seek your teeth in even more 877 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 4: because here's what we got coming up on The Action 878 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 4: network podcast the next couple. Weeks so h first, off 879 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 4: TWO nfl win total, Episodes so we're talking now into 880 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,439 Speaker 4: the next. Season two win total. Episodes It's stucky And Chris. 881 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 4: Raybond those are going to. 882 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 1: Drop On thursday And. 883 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,040 Speaker 4: Monday so a win total episode coming to you this this, 884 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,439 Speaker 4: week and then one at the start of next. 885 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: Week speaking of next, week Next. 886 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 4: Tuesday that would bring us To april twenty, fifth two 887 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 4: days before the, draft we'll have a final mock draft 888 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 4: episode With Luke Luke swayn who's right, here and a 889 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 4: special guest On, wednesday which is a week from, now 890 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 4: three of us are. Back we'll return for our FINAL 891 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 4: Nfl Draft Best bets episode and plan is we're going 892 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 4: to have a special episode For day. 893 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 1: Two of THE Nfl draft as, well but stay. 894 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 4: Tuned we're working on logistics a Special day two episode 895 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 4: of OUR Nfl draft betting update as The draft's taking 896 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,959 Speaker 4: Place day two here on The Action network. Podcast that's 897 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 4: it for today's. 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