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Speaker 3: Good morning, FITZI, good morning brother.

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Speaker 4: How are we doing to how are we feeling on

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Speaker 4: brighton early on this Saturn in morning?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm good and you know why.

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Speaker 2: It's we say it every week, but it's a countdown, man,

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Speaker 2: and we're supposed to say it every week. And truly,

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Speaker 2: you know, we're now past the fourth. We're now approaching

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Speaker 2: double digits. We got July thirteenth today. We are just

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Speaker 2: that much closer to football. And you know, it was

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Speaker 2: funny as we've reached the All Star breaking baseball and uh,

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Speaker 2: there's good like good stories in baseball. The sport is

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Speaker 2: is in an uptick. There's some fun stuff, obviously, schemes

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Speaker 2: being the top thing. We'll be watching him play like

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Speaker 2: you watch him pitch and I'm curious it's a guy

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Speaker 2: that doesn't you know, love love baseball, like you like it,

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Speaker 2: but you're not in love with it, like more like

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Speaker 2: k Fig and I, how do you like? Are you

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Speaker 2: captivated by the Paul Skien story?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's fine. It's as captivating as anything can get. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean it's interesting that I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I don't one to ten? Why it's a math?

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Speaker 4: You liked the four four? What's a fourth? What should

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Speaker 4: it be for me?

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Speaker 3: And at seven?

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Speaker 2: Like, in all honesty, it's seven, Like it's it's a

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Speaker 2: big deal. Now, I will say this, And it's funny

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Speaker 2: because we always do our promos here at Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio and they're always great because it's it's about our

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Speaker 2: takes from all the great people here on the on

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Speaker 2: the line, in the lineup, and uh, Dan Patrick, you

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Speaker 2: know who's the best.

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Speaker 3: He's like, well, I get it's baseball. Today.

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Speaker 2: Were talking about how scheme's got taken out after seven innings,

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Speaker 2: right ninety nine pitches, and like, I got to tell you,

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Speaker 2: I think it's ridiculous, Like I think you you the

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Speaker 2: no hitter and breathing life into the story into a franchise,

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Speaker 2: that's woebegone.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You got to show me the data that the twenty

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Speaker 2: five pitches or you know, twenty eight pitches more well,

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Speaker 2: automatically he's going to get Tommy John Like, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I got to see the data on that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think it's a little too cautious. I think you

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Speaker 2: got to go for the feet now again, you put it.

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Speaker 2: You send him out for the eighth, he's at ninety

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Speaker 2: nine pitches. He s him out for the eighth. You know,

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Speaker 2: he gets a hit, you pull him. I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: that simple. It's not like, oh, if he's pitching on

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Speaker 2: one there, pitt, you to one here to your pull him.

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Speaker 2: He's picture no hitter. You go for the feet, right,

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Speaker 2: and you got to give him a chance. You got

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Speaker 2: to give them the chance at the feet at the

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Speaker 2: history of it, I mean, in the great scheme of

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Speaker 2: things is you know, twenty five another twenty five pitches.

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Speaker 2: I want to send him to the er. Like nobody's

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Speaker 2: saying he's got to you gotta throw one hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty pitches. I'm I'm not saying that he's at ninety

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Speaker 4: You always want history, if you have a shot at history,

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Speaker 4: And doesn't this, frankly echo the same thing that we've

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Speaker 4: talked about with the NBA, the devaluation of anything that

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Speaker 4: happens in the regular season. And then people turn around

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Speaker 4: and ask why we don't pay more attention to what's

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Speaker 4: happening in the regular season. Well, if a no hitter

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Speaker 4: is not important in the regular season to Major League Baseball,

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Speaker 4: why should it be important to me? You know that's well,

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Speaker 4: you know, it's funny.

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Speaker 2: That's why I ask you, because quite frankly, I knew

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Speaker 3: Like the story. I love the story. I mean from

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Speaker 4: The story is out of Disney Disney movie, right, like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean because the kid the kids is awesome.

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Speaker 2: Like I love watching this kid pitch, just seeing that

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Speaker 2: this kid. And I understand that you want to have

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Speaker 2: You don't want to add and the show, you know,

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Speaker 2: three quarters of the way in. Yeah, you know what

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Speaker 2: and then maybe a fitsie will go, yeah, that's the seven,

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Speaker 2: you know, like that's it's cool, instead of going right

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Speaker 4: Now one hundred percent, and it becomes you gotta have moments,

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Speaker 4: no matter what sport we're talking about. And frankly, you know,

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Speaker 4: if you've watched any of Receiver on Netflix, that's one

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Speaker 4: thing that the NFL does a great job of making

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Speaker 4: sure that we know that every single week seems to

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Speaker 4: have a moment, a thing that fan bases.

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Speaker 4: I was rewatching some of that with Davante being in

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Speaker 4: it and remembering different outcomes of different games from last year,

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Speaker 4: and it just felt like there were so many, oh

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Speaker 4: my favorite team. I think you got to have moments,

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Speaker 4: and moments have to matter. And this is why I

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Speaker 4: constantly step on my soapbox and say, like, what is

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Speaker 4: the point in in every sport? What is the point

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Speaker 4: if we so worried about where things are going that

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Speaker 4: we don't actually appreciate the where we are right now. So,

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Speaker 4: whether we're talking about you know, the Celtics on their

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Speaker 4: and saying, if you don't enjoy this ride, what are

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Speaker 4: you doing it for? Right Like, you've got to find

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Speaker 4: a way. The NBA and evaluation of the regular season.

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Speaker 4: Major League Baseball has this opportunity right now in July

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Speaker 4: where they should be absolutely captivating America. But are we captive? No?

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Speaker 4: You know so, I do think that sports in general

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Speaker 4: sometimes you get so worried about the analytics you don't

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Speaker 4: just worry about the experience. And if you if you're

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Speaker 2: To lose your soul, man, yeah, one hundred percent, to

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Speaker 3: Where's the theater? You know?

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Speaker 2: Where is you know the moments that we were breathless?

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Speaker 2: Figure out how many times in regular season you're breathless

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Speaker 2: the theater aspect of it. And I get look business

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Speaker 2: and I get jobs, and I you know, GM's jobs,

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Speaker 3: Give me a break.

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Speaker 2: We've strayed too far. From the stage. I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: I get it, but I think it's wrong.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think part of the problem with everything is

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Speaker 4: what's the point of sports in general? Because I think

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Speaker 4: the answer to that, what is the point for fans

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Speaker 4: the last fifteen years, like we have become such a

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Speaker 4: championship or bus society. Now anyone listening that suddenly thinks

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Speaker 4: that I'm gonna sit here and you know, love participation

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Speaker 4: in trophies. I'm the exact opposite. I don't love second place,

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Speaker 4: That being said, you still have to just respect that

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Speaker 4: the journey is supposed to be what it's about, right,

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Speaker 4: Like you're supposed to love all of the individual moments,

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Speaker 4: that's lost.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: So if it's lost, if the context is only you know,

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Speaker 4: Tommy Johnson, the context is only what's it going to be,

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Speaker 4: you know, for the next ten years, and the concept

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Speaker 4: then there's just there's no importance today, there's no value

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Speaker 4: to today. There's no experience in today, and that we

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Speaker 4: become so callous to greatness and so consumed with the

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Speaker 4: future that I don't even know if we know how

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Speaker 3: I'm so with you.

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Speaker 2: And the other aspect is, you know, so what you're

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Speaker 2: telling me, it's just all about a month or two

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Speaker 2: months in the NBA's case, two and a half months tournament.

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Speaker 2: So it's just about this tournament. That's it. Just stay

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Speaker 2: because you know, just about everybody makes the playoffs, right,

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Speaker 2: you know, you're an add on wild cards and everything else. See,

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Speaker 2: the problem, truthfully is is the exploitation of the playoff.

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Speaker 2: Because the exploitation of the playoff excus everything in that

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Speaker 2: these wildcards are ridiculous, It's stupid, it's quite frankly, because

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Speaker 2: what are you playing for? And the I it was funny,

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Speaker 2: I was talking to Larry about the Phillies off to

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Speaker 2: that they're not playing, they'll get cold, because that can happen, right,

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Speaker 2: like we solved with the Braves the last two years

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Speaker 2: a sudden not playing and you get a week off,

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Speaker 2: you're stale in that sport. Like while you're waiting for

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Speaker 2: the wildcard, you can be stale. Your bats get off

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Speaker 2: and it's a sport that you can't like. Practice is

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Speaker 2: not you know, it can't simil a game. You could throw,

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Speaker 2: you could throw live the whole thing, but that doesn't

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Speaker 2: biggest concern about the Phillies is you're gonna be so

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Speaker 2: good that they're gonna get a rest and a break.

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Speaker 2: You shouldn't have wild cards, but that shouldn't be you

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Speaker 2: play all these freaking games for what. So everybody makes

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Speaker 4: Well, the problem is there's money and attention in the playoffs, right,

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Speaker 4: and so the playoffs become and that's again where everything

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Speaker 4: is just so skewed. The network partners want more playoff

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Speaker 4: games because they make more money. More people watch the

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Speaker 4: playoff games because we've been conditioned to that's all that cares.

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Speaker 4: It's almost like you are all that matters. It's almost

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Speaker 4: like you'd have to be willing to take the short

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Speaker 4: term hit of losing that to then get more eyeballs

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Speaker 4: for the rest of the year. And I don't know

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Speaker 4: you know. That's why why I constantly even say, with

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Speaker 4: the way media covers thinks like it, it's harder and

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Speaker 4: harder to go out and find places that cover everything

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Speaker 4: because you don't make as much money covering everything as

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Speaker 4: you do if you just cover the Lakers every day. Right,

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Speaker 4: So that's just that's that's real to the business. So

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Speaker 4: how do you get the business side of owners that

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Speaker 4: are making a ton of money in baseball to care

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Speaker 4: more about, Hey, why don't we value Why don't we

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Speaker 4: think that's ever gonna happen. So now that means experiences,

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Speaker 2: They're not making the playoffs, and they had no lineup,

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Speaker 2: Dwight goodin right at nineteen years old, just exhilarates you, right,

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Speaker 5: Well, he's like ten eleven starts into his career, means

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Speaker 6: I'm sure everybody will take that. Everybody will take that.

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Speaker 5: Well, they're throwing max effort too, and being told to

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Speaker 5: Yes, And how the pros having figured this out, that

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Speaker 5: start by throwing to your point, Anthony fourteen or fifteen

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Speaker 6: If he has a chance to chase history, let him

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Speaker 2: Now, I mean maybe FITZI says, man, the story's is seven. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Well you know why it's a seven because YEA one

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was certainly it was more of a rhetorical

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Speaker 2: Now, how come one thing I still don't know is

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Speaker 2: He throws all those innings, Steve Carlton threw hard through

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Speaker 5: There probably are a couple of physical anomalies in there,

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Speaker 6: Every single solitary fastball that they.

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Speaker 2: Threw, right, all right, It's just it's you know, we

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Speaker 2: So let's discuss. We've got a lot to do. The

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: But instead of us telling you how great we are,

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Speaker 3: You don't interrupting our promo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't talking about you. You took those clips

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, well, after this promo, I'm gonna take you

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Speaker 6: Let me put this into context.

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Speaker 4: Shut up.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, anyway, just listening to the Polly Antoni Fosco Show

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Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome back fellas from the Tyraq dot Com studio,

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Speaker 2: Jason Fitz, Kevin Figuers. I'm Anthony Garganhe so it's interesting

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Speaker 2: we're talking about this whole devalue ano the regular season

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Speaker 2: In the greatness, I heard of one of my colleagues

437
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 2: who's much younger than me, talk about Peyton Manning and

438
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 2: he's like, well, Peyton Madding's a playoff choke, right, Like

439
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 2: he's stunk in the playoffs. And it's like, well, you know,

440
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 2: he had Tom Brady in front of him, and you're

441
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 2: talking about like a handful of games, and the idea

442
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Speaker 2: of you know, is he going to throw for four

443
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 2: hundred and forty yards in a playoff game and win?

444
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 3: Probably not, right, Like you're not going to win doing that.

445
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Speaker 2: The idea in the playoffs is it's so team oriented.

446
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 2: It's why I hate castigating quarterbacks and judging them on

447
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 2: these results solely on their shoulders. When it's a defense,

448
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 2: it's a coach, Like, do you think Aaron Rodgers is

449
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 2: at fault or is McCarthy the one to blame whose

450
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 2: team came out flat the year after they went they

451
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Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl? They were fifteen and one. They

452
00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:01,360
Speaker 2: came out flat against the Giants. They fell to a

453
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Speaker 2: big hole. They hit him on it with a hell

454
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Speaker 2: Mary Eli manning hell Mary ran before halftime.

455
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Speaker 3: Now is that Aaron Rodgers fault?

456
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Speaker 2: Or is it the head coach who couldn't get his

457
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Speaker 2: team right and they came out flat and listless.

458
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Speaker 4: I mean, think about what we talk about in general,

459
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 4: fifty three men on an active roster and we put

460
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Speaker 4: it all on one. How many Super Bowls has he won?

461
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Speaker 3: Right?

462
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Speaker 4: But then in the NBA, when a player suddenly switches

463
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 4: teams to try and win a chip, because that's all

464
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 4: we care about, then they're ring chasing and we don't

465
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 4: want to give that championship credit. Like we moved the

466
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 4: goalpost so much on what success is. And I'm sorry

467
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Speaker 4: because I know Collin's a legend. And one of my

468
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Speaker 4: biggest influences and one of the most important people to Fox.

469
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Speaker 4: But I'm gonna be very honest. If your answer is

470
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Speaker 4: you've only won one super Bowl, my reply to that

471
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 4: is go to hell. And I remember years ago I

472
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 4: said to somebody in the music business, I made a

473
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Speaker 4: joke about a one hit wonder and he looked me

474
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Speaker 4: square in the eyes. And at that time I had nothing,

475
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Speaker 4: And he looked at me square in the eyes and said,

476
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 4: how many hits have you had? We spend all this

477
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 4: time making fun of somebody that has one legendary song,

478
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 4: like that's something to be embarrassed about. We're sitting there

479
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 4: saying with the quarterback like Dan Marino didn't get a

480
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Speaker 4: Super Bowl. And I always go back to Dan Marino

481
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Speaker 4: because I truly believe that if Dan Marino were an

482
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Speaker 4: active quarterback right now in today's society, we would trash

483
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 4: his legacy and wouldn't appreciate it. The concept that somebody

484
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 4: comes in and says, well, you've only done the most

485
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 4: impossible thing to do in this league one time, and

486
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Speaker 4: that's not good enough. Can you imagine if your friend

487
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 4: showed up and said, guys, I climb mount Everest and

488
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 4: I looked over fat from the Thanksgiving table and said,

489
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Speaker 4: I don't know, man. He did it once, like what

490
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Speaker 4: are we talking about here? Like this is the stupidest

491
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Speaker 4: logic I could possibly imagine that being said Colin, I

492
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Speaker 4: love you, don't don't.

493
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Speaker 3: Be Man's still stupid. He felt the same thing.

494
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Speaker 2: Man, I'm going and I was thinking the same thing

495
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 2: because I have think college really smart and he does

496
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 2: such a great job. But I usually love his insights.

497
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Speaker 2: I mean, like, what are we talking about here?

498
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Speaker 5: It's also so lazy and just lacks context when you

499
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Speaker 5: talk about someone's quote unquote playoff record. Well, and this

500
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Speaker 5: is something you brought up fits talking about the Celtics

501
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 5: in particular, saying if they don't win a championship this year,

502
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 5: they lost in the conference finals two years ago and

503
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 5: then the second round of the year before. But every

504
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 5: single year has a different story and there's a different

505
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 5: reason why they lost those particular games, and so you

506
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 5: can't just say, well, someone those record as.

507
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Speaker 6: This, they're clearly playoff choke artists.

508
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 5: Is like, well, no, maybe the defense was terrible one year,

509
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 5: maybe he was hurt going into a game one year.

510
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 5: Maybe like a couple of years ago, San Francisco ran

511
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 5: for three hundred yards in Green Bay against him, and

512
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 5: they didn't have the ball. Like there's certain things that

513
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,239
Speaker 5: are even outside of a player's hands at times. I'm

514
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 5: not absolving him of any responsibility and saying he's not

515
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 5: the reason why they've struggled or lost games before, but

516
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Speaker 5: you have to have context within each of every playoff loss.

517
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Speaker 5: In particular, like you guys mentioned, in a sport like football,

518
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Speaker 5: where you need so much to go right for you

519
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,479
Speaker 5: to be able to win. As great as Tom Brady is,

520
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 5: people were acting like Tom Brady threw for you know,

521
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 5: three hundred and thirty five yards and fours touchdowns and

522
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 5: all the playoff victories that the Patriots have had, Like

523
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Speaker 5: I got news for you, Like, outside of a couple

524
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Speaker 5: of Super Bowls, his numbers are pretty pedestrian in many

525
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Speaker 5: of those games and many.

526
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Speaker 3: Of the Atlanta You go through it.

527
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Speaker 5: And yeah, the Eagles, the Eagles lost the game that

528
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Speaker 5: Nick Foles, you know they ended up winning. That was

529
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Speaker 5: one of Tom Brady's best games and they lost.

530
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Speaker 4: Look, Brady's in all time. I'm not taking anything away

531
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Speaker 4: from Brady, but we all know that, Like sometimes it's

532
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 4: better to be lucky than good. Like you need that

533
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 4: call to be ruled a tuck and not a fumble, right,

534
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 4: like which right, appropriate, right, right, usage of a bad

535
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 4: rule at the time, all those things, but like those

536
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 4: are the little breaks that if you don't get them,

537
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 4: legacies don't happen. And like, look, even Mahomes at times

538
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 4: has struggled in some playoff games and some Super Bowl matchups,

539
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 4: and that's just part of what happens when the best

540
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 4: is taking on the best. Like I'm not.

541
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Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought Mahomes up, right, So you know

542
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Speaker 2: why he struggled in that one Super Bowl?

543
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Speaker 6: Yeah, no time to throw trash that one time. Correct, Yeah, the.

544
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: Tackles, he lost both his tackles, right, And so people

545
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: looked that game years later with no contexts and.

546
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 3: Go, Mahomes is horrible on that game, while the answer

547
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 3: is no, he wasn't. He had no tackles.

548
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: And that's why this whole ridiculous argument that were counting

549
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: super Bowls. And when I'm hearing kids who are I

550
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 2: work with say that Peyton Manny was trash because he

551
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 2: couldn't win in the playoffs because he was terrible, And

552
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of myself like, if you ever watch him, like,

553
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: are you kidding me? How could you possibly say Peyton

554
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 2: matt because he only had one Super Bowl And the

555
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 2: joke is he wasn't even that good against the Bears

556
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: of the Super Bowl.

557
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Speaker 5: Now was one of his worst play playoffs, one of

558
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 5: his worst postseasons as a whole was the other Colts

559
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Speaker 5: won that Super Bowl.

560
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Speaker 4: Well, and look, I think part of that just comes

561
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Speaker 4: because and this is where you guys know, I'm not

562
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 4: a big history guy, right, Like, I'm not the guy

563
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 4: that usually comes in all the time and says history

564
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 4: of the game, history of the game. The problem is,

565
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 4: the farther away we get from eras of people watching it,

566
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 4: the harder it is to understand how great it was.

567
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 4: What becomes really difficult about that is if you're a

568
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 4: kid that didn't really watch the Peyton Manning eras, if

569
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 4: you're a kid like I remember at one point being

570
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 4: at a bar with somebody that had never watched football,

571
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 4: and I was like, I will teach you everything you

572
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 4: need to know, like, let's go, this is gonna be great.

573
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Speaker 4: And so we're sitting there at a table and we

574
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 4: watched a Colts game first and then the Raiders were

575
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Speaker 4: on after that, and my friend leaned over after the

576
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 4: Colts game, I was like, Hey, why did it look

577
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 4: so easy when the Colts did it and so hard

578
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 4: when this team has tried to do it? I was like, well,

579
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Speaker 4: that has Peyton Manning like, if you didn't grow up

580
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 4: watching that, if you didn't see those things in person, yeah,

581
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 4: you can go back in YouTube. But nobody's doing that,

582
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 4: so it becomes much easier to just be like, well,

583
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 4: look at the number of championships, look at the stat

584
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 4: line from this, and you just you cannot get the

585
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 4: sense of a game from red zone. You cannot get

586
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 4: the sense of a game from a stat line. You've

587
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 4: got to watch all of it, and nobody does that.

588
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 4: So they were making sweeping generalizations about who is good

589
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 4: and bad based on having watched a third of the content.

590
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Speaker 2: That's same thpot on and and you know what. You

591
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: know what kills me though, is that you're tarnishing. It

592
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: goes back to what that guy told you about the

593
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: one hit wonder, like, you're tarnishing.

594
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: You know, people that have achieved.

595
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: You know again, I figure about Maddie and I'm going,

596
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: you know, he not only had to deal with Brady's

597
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: greatness on the other side of the football, but Belichick.

598
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: They changed the rules because of how Belichick played his

599
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 2: defense and hung on his receivers. Remember that, like they

600
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: used to they used to grab Harrison.

601
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Speaker 3: They they changed the rules because of it.

602
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Speaker 4: I mean, that's something that you have to admit to,

603
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 4: even Steelers fans not that long ago, Like, well, Tomlin

604
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 4: only got one with Big Ben and it's like, okay, well,

605
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 4: are we not going to have the context conversation of

606
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 4: who they were going up against in the AFC? Like

607
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 4: there is there's a period right now where greatness is

608
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Speaker 4: going to constantly be squished because you're going up against

609
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Speaker 4: Mahomes and Andy Reid. Like I cannot imagine how we

610
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 4: would cover the Buffalo Bills right now losing four straight

611
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 4: Super Bowls. And look, even in the moment, there was

612
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 4: some laughing about it back in the nineties about losing

613
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 4: four straight Super Bowls And now what do they say, Well, man,

614
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 4: these were Hall of Fame teams and we didn't appreciate

615
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 4: him enough. But yet we're doing the same exact thing

616
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Speaker 4: every single time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look at the look at pat Riley. He

618
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Speaker 2: went to the Knicks. He didn't win, No, right, he

619
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Speaker 2: didn't win with the Knicks.

620
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Speaker 5: Even made to the finals. I think that was Van

621
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Speaker 5: gundydeed to come to the finals. I think Patt left

622
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Speaker 5: by then if I remember correctly.

623
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Speaker 2: You remember correctly, Yeah, exactly right, the finals against Houston

624
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: with Van Gundy. That was during the OJ thing And uh,

625
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna tell me so Pat Roley wasn't a great coach.

626
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: He turned that next to he made that that next

627
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Speaker 2: team relevant and that's just because he had to deal

628
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: with Michael Jordan, Right, I mean, I mean, where's again

629
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: does zero sum? And it takes away from how we

630
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: appreciate what we're talking about right now, is how it

631
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: takes away our appreciation of the sport or of the player,

632
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: of the moment of the coach. We you know, so

633
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: if Paul Skeins is allowed to go and finish a

634
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: no hitter, it's just it's it's something that we can

635
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: cleave to. It's a mile post, it's a it's a feat.

636
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Speaker 3: That we can that we've enjoyed.

637
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Speaker 6: Another something it does.

638
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 5: Like another great example I think to stick with the

639
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 5: NBA was what A and Jerry Sloan in Utah? What

640
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 5: they have in nineteen straight years that they won at

641
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 5: least forty five forty eight games, made it to the playoffs,

642
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 5: made it to the finals.

643
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 6: A couple of times realize how unreal that is.

644
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 5: To have that kind of run championships are not, to

645
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 5: basically be relevant, to be one of the best teams

646
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 5: in an entire conference for the better part of two

647
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 5: decades is unheard of in any sport.

648
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Speaker 6: And they were able to do that.

649
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 5: But if they would have won one of those NBA

650
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 5: finals against Chicago, it changes everything just.

651
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Speaker 2: Once, unless is NBA jam. We've never talked about Stockton

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Speaker 2: them alone.

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Speaker 6: Right thousand percent.

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Speaker 4: It's it does a disservice like we currently are doing

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Speaker 4: a disservice to sports history, and we're doing a disservice

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Speaker 4: to sports in the future by the way we're handling

657
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Speaker 4: sports right now. And the funny thing is, I'm not

658
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Speaker 4: sure there's been an era that's done as bad a

659
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Speaker 4: job with the past, the present, and the future when

660
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Speaker 4: it comes to how we can textualize sports as the

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Speaker 4: era we're we're in right now, and it's.

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Speaker 2: Wilds Your dude, you're so right again again, You're so right,

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Speaker 2: And I got it. I will do it on the

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Speaker 2: other side, and it's ESPN's fault. And I love the

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Speaker 2: ESPN and I love you know, just I love these

666
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Speaker 2: big networks like Fox and the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: But it's it's that I'll explain.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's terrible, it's terrible, and we have You're

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Speaker 2: exactly right, we're killing sports history. Where the fellas he's

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Speaker 2: Jason fitz Kevin figures, I'm Anthony Gargano right here on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio fellas Jason fitz Kevin figures, I'm Anthony Gargano.

672
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Speaker 2: And I love this conversation because I'm very passionate about it,

673
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 2: very passionate about it. And you know, when FITZI says

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Speaker 2: we're killing sports history and we're failing at our job,

675
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: he's so spot on. And the ruination is the take.

676
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: The take is killing how we cover sports because you

677
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: gotta have a take. It's the only way to derise

678
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Speaker 2: entertainment is from a take. Even if the take is

679
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Speaker 2: BS made up, fake, a lie, that it doesn't matter

680
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Speaker 2: because all the brilliant program directors and GMS and all

681
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Speaker 2: these producers, Oh.

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Speaker 3: You gotta have a take. What's your take?

683
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Speaker 2: And the takes are half of them night. We'll actually

684
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Speaker 2: more than half of them are nonsense. They don't even

685
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Speaker 2: believe them.

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Speaker 3: They have these people unless they're just stupid, they don't

687
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Speaker 3: appreciate it. So it does about a take.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you need an opinion, of course, right, but

689
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: they need to be thought out, they need to be honest.

690
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 2: It needs to be true. It's the only thing. And

691
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: if you're just doing it just to fake it, I

692
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Speaker 2: want to get we'll get big ratings. Are you really

693
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Speaker 2: getting radies? Because right now in the world of social media,

694
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Speaker 2: everybody has an opinion that is either published, that is

695
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: on a podcast, that is on any kind of airwave.

696
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Speaker 2: Everybody's got opinions, So another one is exactly what you're

697
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Speaker 2: going to get another piece of nonsense.

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Speaker 3: God, I'm sorry, Well.

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Speaker 4: No, but I think part of that comes down to Look,

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Speaker 4: I've been lucky enough to do first take several times

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Speaker 4: in my career when I was with ESPN. And when

702
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Speaker 4: you go into the production meeting, I don't think I'm

703
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 4: revealing any trade secrets here. When you go into the

704
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 4: production meeting, they give you the night before, you get

705
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 4: a bunch of topics, and when you come in they

706
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 4: want you to say as little as possible because they

707
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Speaker 4: don't want to give it all away, but they really

708
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 4: want to find things that you differ on. And what

709
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Speaker 4: was funny is, you know, I did first take years

710
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Speaker 4: ago with our coworker here at Fox Sports Radio on

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Speaker 4: the Weekend, Ryan Hollins, and that one was easy because

712
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Speaker 4: Hollins has big thoughts on a lot of things. But

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Speaker 4: when I did it with Damian Woody, who's a close

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Speaker 4: friend of mine, Woody was very much in the production meeting,

715
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Speaker 4: was like, I mean, that might be true, that might

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Speaker 4: not be true, and you could see the struggle with

717
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Speaker 4: trying to put the show together because they're not really

718
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 4: looking for I always say, the show is not called

719
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Speaker 4: first fair and nuanced conversation, it's called first take. And

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Speaker 4: at some point it just became easier and easier to

721
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Speaker 4: blow through take after take after take. So what you

722
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Speaker 4: end up with is you end up with the machine

723
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Speaker 4: where you know, what they're trying to do is create

724
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Speaker 4: social media clicks, and they're trying to create volume that

725
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 4: can be repeated all day long, and then you know, realistically,

726
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 4: they'll say something on the morning show that gets reacted

727
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Speaker 4: to on the take show, that gets reacted to on

728
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Speaker 4: the afternoon show, and they've created their own news cycles.

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Speaker 4: So it doesn't require really a historical context. It doesn't

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Speaker 4: require that you watch the games, It doesn't require any

731
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Speaker 4: of that. It requires that you have something big to say.

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Speaker 4: And one of the people that you know really coached

733
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Speaker 4: me at ESPN said, if you can read the ESPN

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Speaker 4: dot com site and have a strong opinion about every

735
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Speaker 4: single article, then you're in the right realm. That's that's

736
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Speaker 4: what they want you to do. So it's okay.

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Speaker 2: So but let me let me, let me, let me

738
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Speaker 2: stop you right here, because we all understand what it is.

739
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: And it's ps okay, because let's be let's be honest here.

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Speaker 3: It's acting. It's theater.

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Speaker 6: It's contrived, all right, it's theater.

742
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Speaker 2: Because it's impossible to have a strong take on everything

743
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Speaker 2: on the ESPN uh news board.

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00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: Right like you could feel a certain ways.

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Speaker 2: Some of you feel stronger, others you feel But if

746
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Speaker 2: you're telling me that I need to do that, and

747
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Speaker 2: I know you're right because I've been up there a

748
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Speaker 2: million times. If you're telling me I need to do that,

749
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Speaker 2: then okay, that's that's the job. That doesn't make it

750
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Speaker 2: honest or write or just it makes all right, this

751
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Speaker 2: is what we're doing, is we're gonna stand up here.

752
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Speaker 3: It's why.

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Speaker 2: It's one of the biggest problems that we have in

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Speaker 2: the country because it also makes you either left or

755
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Speaker 2: right on steroids, and it lacks the middle grounds. And

756
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: so you know, whatever ideology you believe in, you take

757
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: it to the wind, not right like you take it

758
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 2: to the end degree.

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00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: And we talk about.

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Speaker 2: How fundamentalism is the worst thing for any kind of society,

761
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Speaker 2: and in that small way, this is what sports has become.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because people start formulating their full on opinions based

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Speaker 5: on the opinions of other people who, by the way,

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Speaker 5: that might might not even be their genuine opinion. Right,

765
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 5: just like what they're saying to fits this point in

766
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 5: a production meetings, like well, I don't feel that strongly

767
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 5: about it, Like, yeah, you will, here's how you're gonna feel.

768
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 5: Say this, say that, nudge you in this direction. We

769
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 5: got to have a discussion here. And I understand they

770
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 5: have jobs to do, understand that part of it completely,

771
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Speaker 5: But we're talking about only playoff games matter. Regular season

772
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 5: this all that matters is if you're healthy. All of

773
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 5: that sort of thought process comes from as born out

774
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 5: of basically a lot of these shows and how they

775
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 5: because they talk about the exact same thing, and that

776
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 5: formulates the opinions of the fans.

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00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 6: And social media.

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Speaker 5: You mentioned the amalgamation of clips that get shown over

779
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 5: and over and retweeted and reposted on Instagram. That's all

780
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 5: people see, that's all they go off of, and that

781
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 5: ends up formulating the greater opinion that's out there for

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Speaker 5: a lot of people to consume.

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Speaker 4: I will say this in two different ways. When I

784
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Speaker 4: was my first year in radio was in Nashville and

785
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Speaker 4: it was during the year that the Prets went on

786
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 4: their Stanley Cup final run. I was working for the

787
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Speaker 4: Preds flagship and I remember in the middle of the

788
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 4: regular season they were screaming about the fact that we

789
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 4: weren't talking enough Preds and I was like, yeah, but

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Speaker 4: the third line defensive pairing on a Thursday night in

791
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Speaker 4: the middle of January doesn't really matter. But how do

792
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Speaker 4: you make it matter? And I think the problem is,

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Speaker 4: in order to do things in a way that doesn't

794
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 4: revolve takes, you have to watch more, and nobody can

795
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 4: watch enough to do that. You just need more people

796
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 4: that specialize in particular things. They can have smart things

797
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 4: to say instead of one person being paid twenty million

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Speaker 4: dollars to know nothing about.

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Speaker 3: Everything spot on.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but you can also do storytelling. What they

801
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: part of it, what they did in the past was

802
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: more storytelling facts.

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Speaker 3: You know, and I and I think you can. You

804
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 3: can dive into that.

805
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Speaker 2: And again I'm not saying that you're not supposed to

806
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 2: have an opinion, right, that's we all believe in that.

807
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: But it's the phony fake is what I object to.

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Speaker 2: Fellas on Fox.

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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good Morning, Buddy, the Morning of Morning of Morning, the morning.

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Speaker 2: This is the Fellas Jason fitz Kevin figures.

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Speaker 3: I'm Anthony Gardy.

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Speaker 2: buying should be. You just joined us. We're going on

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Speaker 2: a tangent. It's almost on a tangent. It's the preservation

819
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 2: of sports right of sports history. It's what we it's

820
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: what we loved it. We love this stuff and we

821
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 2: should love this stuff. And if you love something, you

822
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 2: really should care about it, nurture it.

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Speaker 3: And I understand that.

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Speaker 2: There is a business to all this stuff and then

825
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Speaker 2: everything we do.

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Speaker 3: But there fifty said it earlier.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was the line of the day that

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Speaker 2: we are failing at preserving our sports history and we

829
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Speaker 2: have failed that. This current generation of media, of sports

830
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: media has failed in how it's taken sport away from

831
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Speaker 2: the appreciation of it. And it's not the master's fault.

832
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: I mean, truthfully, it's the it's the media and how

833
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: it's directed it.

834
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Speaker 3: It's the I mean that we're all to blame. Listen.

835
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 3: I made my bones in sports radio, right like you know.

836
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 3: Every day.

837
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: I had a program director who told me one day

838
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: that I was talking about the Phillies and the Phillies

839
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: were not good, and I was like round about how

840
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: the Phillies needed to do X, Y and Z. And

841
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: he brings me to his office and I just left newspapers.

842
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: I was at the Philipphy Inquirer. And he brings me

843
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: to his office and he says, why are we talking baseball?

844
00:42:54,760 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: Baseball doesn't matter. Just talk football, Just talk football. And

845
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: he was from Louisiana, had this draw and he said,

846
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: and if you don't want to talk football, talk about

847
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 2: God stuff. You're a guy talk about God stuff. And

848
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: I'm thinking myself, wait a second, You're like, this is

849
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: like the number one sports station in this town. That

850
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: was WIP, and you're telling me not to talk about

851
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 2: the Phillies, Like who are on your air at that point?

852
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 2: They were on their sister station. And I was like, wow,

853
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: all right, you know, I'm you know whoever? I was

854
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: thirty years old. At thirty two years old, and the

855
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 2: guy's telling me to not talk about baseball. Nobody cares

856
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 2: about baseball here. But part of what we part of

857
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 2: what our job is is to care about all sports.

858
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: Like you watch like the Olympics are around the corner,

859
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: do you guys like and I.

860
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 3: Love the Olympics.

861
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: I think the Olympics should be celebrated, and and I

862
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 2: think we're much bigger when.

863
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: I was younger. I don't know why that is, any thoughts.

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00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 4: No, So I've been asking the question repeatedly of why

865
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 4: the Olympics aren't cutting through. But the answer that I've

866
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Speaker 4: gotten that I think is an adjustment for guys like

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Speaker 4: you and me, is pretty smart from some people, is

868
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 4: that the modern generation doesn't need months to get ready

869
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 4: for the Olympics. They need minutes. They're not going to

870
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 4: pay attention to long form storytelling about who these guys

871
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 4: are anyway and girls are anyway. They just want the

872
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 4: ninety second TikTok clip as they're getting ready for the race,

873
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 4: So they no longer want to prep for it and

874
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 4: have this like build up of months of here are

875
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 4: the you know, and look, we've seen huge turnouts for

876
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 4: things like the Olympic swimming trials. We're seeing huge turnouts

877
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 4: for all of these things. But I just don't feel

878
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 4: like we have had the captive eyeballs on the Olympics

879
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 4: the way that we have for previous versions of it.

880
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 4: But it also seems like society is no longer captive.

881
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 4: Like society just like give it to me, let me

882
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 4: cram for it, like taking a test in high school.

883
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 4: I don't want to study. I want to cram and

884
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 4: then we'll figure it out.

885
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,919
Speaker 2: But even as it happens, it doesn't feel like it's

886
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: his big I mean, when I was a kid, like

887
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: Carl Lewis was wow.

888
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 3: Like he was every bit of a you know hero.

889
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean.

890
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 2: You go back the Olympic boxers, and it wasn't just

891
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: about basketball, which I loved, but it was you know,

892
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 2: it was all these sports. It was gymnastics, like you know,

893
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, it just it just felt the summer

894
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: games felt bigger. And maybe that's it, maybe any false fake.

895
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 5: I mean, I think part of the reason is, and

896
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 5: you know, we as the media, swing a really big

897
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 5: stick in determining what the public deems to be important

898
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 5: a lot of the time. So whoever you think the

899
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 5: biggest media outlets are, we know what the biggest one

900
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 5: is and the ones that follow suit if they're going

901
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 5: to put a lot of their focus and attention on

902
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 5: these things leading up to it, and I believe, look,

903
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 5: if they if they have the actual contract, they would

904
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 5: just like they when they had when they had the

905
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 5: World Cup, they leaned into that super heavy that that's

906
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 5: just how that works.

907
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 6: I do think that makes a major difference.

908
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 5: Uh, the fact that it's on NBC who really only

909
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 5: pays attention or really brings it to our attention when

910
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 5: it happens when the opening ceremonies and you know, you

911
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 5: have to log onto Peacock to watch what you want

912
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 5: to watch, or watch the network outside. You know, there's

913
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 5: really not a lot of room for build up at

914
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 5: this point in time for it because there's not an

915
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 5: avenue for it unless you go seek it out. And

916
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 5: if you're a general sports fan, you know exactly what

917
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 5: the outlets are that you seek out, if news information,

918
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 5: what's important, what's relevant, what should I be keeping my

919
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 5: eye on, And as of right now, because that property

920
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 5: is not something that is under the umbrella of the

921
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 5: four letter, they don't care about it. So a lot

922
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 5: of people on in the general sports audience don't necessarily

923
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 5: care about it either until it actually happens.

924
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 4: And look, I'm not just because where I am, and

925
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 4: I need to say loudly for people that don't know. Obviously,

926
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 4: I was at ESPN for six years and they were

927
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 4: six of the best years of my entire life, and

928
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 4: that place changed my life. So I have a lot

929
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 4: of love for the fore Letner Network. One of the

930
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 4: biggest differences in my life at Fox Sports Radio versus

931
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 4: my life at ESPN Radio. And this is just being

932
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 4: very honest. I remember when my first show was Spain

933
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 4: and Fits with Sarah Spain, and there was a conversation

934
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 4: when we first started about did we want to talk

935
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 4: into UFC for a upcoming fight, and we got laughed

936
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 4: at and there's like nobody listening on radio cares. Not

937
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 4: long after that, UFC signed to deal with ESPN, and

938
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 4: before you know it, it was, hey, can you put Aeriol

939
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 4: Halwani on every Friday to promote different UFC things on

940
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 4: Like that's real. ESPN radio, in my experience, was as

941
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 4: much about topics as it was about advertising, whatever rights were.

942
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 4: So Figgy is right. I've lived it, Like, if ESPN

943
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 4: had Olympic rights, then right now, there'd be ads running

944
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 4: all the time, there'd be specials running all the time,

945
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 4: they'd be focusing their attention on it all the time

946
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 4: if they don't have rights. And Olympic rights are really

947
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 4: tricky because you can't even show the logo on some

948
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,479
Speaker 4: places if you don't have the rights. You can't show

949
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 4: more than a certain seconds of footage if you don't

950
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 4: have the rights. So Figgy's one hundred percent right that

951
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 4: if ESPN owned it, and that's why you know esping

952
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 4: keeping the NBA finals is in my opinion, is good

953
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 4: for the NBA because if they don't have it, they

954
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 4: don't have to talk about it and they don't have

955
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 4: to talk about it. It feels like it lessens in

956
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 4: the social consciousness. Just look at baseball.

957
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point, and maybe that's maybe that's

958
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: it too.

959
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 3: Like if I think back to.

960
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 2: I guess we always romanticize when we were our own childhood,

961
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 2: and I guess mine and against the difference is to

962
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 2: I was a big Sports Illustrated kid growing up me too,

963
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 2: so like I didn't care about I didn't like superheroes.

964
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: Athletes were my superheroes, right, like Michael Jordan, like those athletes,

965
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: they were my superheroes.

966
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 3: So I loved Sports Illustrated. I would get it.

967
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 2: It would come every Thursday, and I would read it

968
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: cover to cover, like I love the end zone, big piece,

969
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 2: you know, every little department.

970
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 3: I just loved it.

971
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: And and I wasn't really like you know, I mean,

972
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 2: I was a kid growing up. I wasn't a golf

973
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: and I like, you know, tennis was a little bit bigger.

974
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: But you know, I read about all these sports because

975
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 2: they wrote about them, and then you know, one of

976
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 2: the bigger And I think you're right. The influences when

977
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 2: I was a kid, it was more Network TV, some

978
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 2: more ABC Sports, and they did a little bit more

979
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 2: broader coverage of everything, right, So boxing was bigger.

980
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,479
Speaker 4: A world of sports on the weekends when we kids,

981
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 4: like they were showing you a little bit of everything

982
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 4: and you watched it like yeah, and NBC when we

983
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 4: were kids. You know, even if you grew up in

984
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 4: the French, whether you grew up in the Cheers generation, uh,

985
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 4: the Friends generation, like Thursday Night on NBC for generations

986
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 4: was life. Well that was that was advertising time too,

987
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 4: where we're all captive, the whole country is watching Friends together.

988
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, you see these ads

989
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 4: and these little like vignettes constantly for the Olympics coming up,

990
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 4: got your hype for it? Now in a streaming world,

991
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 4: you're skipping the ads anyway when you get them, and

992
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 4: half the time it's just a little blurb on the

993
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 4: bottom of the screen that says Olympics coming in a

994
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 4: few weeks. You're like, oh, yeah, that is coming up.

995
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 4: Like it's such a different way to try and captivate

996
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 4: an audience that you know, I think that does make

997
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 4: a massive difference in what we're talking about. And you

998
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 4: know the fact is we here have so many other

999
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 4: sports that we care more about day in and day out,

1000
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 4: like if you We spent with the band at one

1001
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 4: point a couple of months in Canada. At one point

1002
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 4: we spent three months in Europe. You go from place

1003
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 4: to place there and the national pride in their national team,

1004
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 4: it seeps through year round. You know. Here we care

1005
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 4: about it every four years when there's an Olympics to

1006
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 4: worry about it.

1007
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 3: So right, so.

1008
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 2: And it's I guess it's how it has to be

1009
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 2: because we're so big. We're such a vast, huge country

1010
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 2: that you know, but you're right, these all the places,

1011
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: like I don't know, I was watching the Euros and

1012
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: you know it was it was England against Switzerland, or

1013
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 2: England against the Netherlands, and the DUTs right with the

1014
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 2: orange get up and the colors, and there's a hundred

1015
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:53,720
Speaker 2: thousand Dutch all dolled up in orange like this site

1016
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 2: was awesome, right, that whole thing And the only thing

1017
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 2: I've ever lived that was close to that was when.

1018
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 3: I was really little.

1019
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: They we it was the nineteen eighty uh of men's

1020
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 2: hockey when we when we USA beat Russia, Like I

1021
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: remembered like such national pride and it was interesting to

1022
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: me because when I'm fitting network of this conversation. I

1023
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 2: think back to like boxing, like the eighty four Olympics,

1024
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 2: like they were in LA and we had like our

1025
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 2: boxing team was unbelievable, and I just remember feeling there's

1026
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 2: some like a men's pride as they're putting the gold

1027
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: after gold on the each boxer, and I'm feeling like

1028
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: a lot of pride, Like I used to check the

1029
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 2: medal count every day in the paper with this slam,

1030
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 2: we got x amount of golds.

1031
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 4: God, I used to do the same thing. I remember that.

1032
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 2: And then while but I don't, like I know my

1033
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 2: kids that first of all, they don't even know that

1034
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 2: the Ellipses or the Olympics is happening.

1035
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 3: They's no idea. I'd be stunned if they even know it.

1036
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 3: It's funny because.

1037
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 2: The technology being so great today, right, instantaneous information, the

1038
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: outlay of information never been greater. But yet it's easier

1039
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 2: to lose the message because of all the messages, right,

1040
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: so all the noise makes it harder to cut through,

1041
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: even though it's easier to get your message out there.

1042
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 4: And that also though changes to your point as you're

1043
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 4: talking about it. What I'm thinking about is for you know,

1044
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 4: your kids that are plugged in constantly, are they gonna

1045
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 4: wait when there's time delay on things like that with

1046
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 4: the Olympics?

1047
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 3: Like are they?

1048
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 4: I think the real test for the Olympics is going

1049
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 4: to be when it's in la for in a few years.

1050
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 4: If it's in la in four years and we're still

1051
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 4: this sort of checked out, then I just I think

1052
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,720
Speaker 4: we have to ask serious questions about whether this country

1053
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 4: even cares about the Olympics at the same level anymore.

1054
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 4: If it becomes a phenomenon, it should be when it's

1055
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 4: here and we're watching it live, and it's on our

1056
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 4: time zone and we don't have to worry about what

1057
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 4: time it is in Paris and all of those different things,

1058
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 4: and are the results already out on Twitter and like

1059
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 4: we're trying to avoid those things. I do think that

1060
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 4: that changes the immediacy and the availability of knowing everything

1061
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,479
Speaker 4: that's happened in the Olympics and not having a wait

1062
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 4: until the eight o'clock reshowing is something that has definitely

1063
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,479
Speaker 4: changed in my mind. To hype around the broadcast for sure.

1064
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, you pick and choose, you know, to watch live

1065
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 5: whatever it is that you're most interested in. Back in

1066
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 5: the day, they would show you what the most marque events,

1067
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 5: the most important things are.

1068
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 6: Now you can seek those things out. You're on your own.

1069
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 3: You don't have to.

1070
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 2: Wait for every broadcast set because I'll bring up boxing

1071
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 2: once more. But I'd be like, where's the boxing, where's

1072
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 2: the Bob's boxing? Basketball? Boxing were the only like like

1073
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 2: to you know, you like to swimming, right, and uh,

1074
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 2: I wasn't a big gymnastics fan, like you grow to

1075
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 2: appreciate that, right.

1076
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 6: Track and field is always a big track.

1077
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 2: And field was awesome, and then they have all the

1078
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 2: other sports like you know that you didn't care about,

1079
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 2: Like you didn't want you know, you didn't know about.

1080
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 5: That's like that's the one where you're laying down and

1081
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 5: it's like, oh, fencing is on.

1082
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 3: Put that background exactly exactly.

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00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 5: It no disrespect to any of our listeners who may

1084
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 5: be big fencing fans or fencing of fencers themselves.

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00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 3: God bless.

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Speaker 2: I mean we always we always think about that, but

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00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: it was, uh, it's the truth, like you you but

1088
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 2: it just felt so much bigger. I don't know, it

1089
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 2: felt like it felt like such a big deal that

1090
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: when the Olympics would come around, it was like, Wow,

1091
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 2: like this is you know, all the countries and I don't.

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00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 3: I guess.

1093
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 2: I guess because of our own sports, we just we

1094
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 2: just will never care about it.

1095
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there's just I mean, in some senses that

1096
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 5: the country is fractured to a certain degree, so you

1097
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 5: would think this would be one thing to sort of

1098
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 5: galvanize it. But even within the Olympics, to everything is spread.

1099
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 5: There are people that will like certain sports, and there's

1100
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 5: others who like to hear you to your kid's point,

1101
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 5: if they even know it exists, they could care less

1102
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 5: about any of them, doesn't matter.

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00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like My oldest is fourteen. I mean,

1104
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 2: we haven't talked about it one time. I don't think

1105
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 2: he even knows it. Wow, I really don't. I don't

1106
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: think he knows it.

1107
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 4: I honestly think that the Olympics and the want for

1108
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 4: flag football in it and being in LA if that

1109
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 4: doesn't charge another generation about the Olympics, I'm genuinely curious

1110
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 4: to see where it's all headed in the next twenty

1111
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 4: years for this country.

1112
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1113
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1114
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 3: You got me thinking about flag football. I don't should

1115
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 3: that be an Olympic sport?

1116
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 6: I mean why not break dancing is an Olympic sports?

1117
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 4: Break?

1118
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 6: I mean, what are we talking about?

1119
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 5: Pretty soon and they've already talked about what they're talking about.

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Speaker 5: This sports is like most likely within the next decade

1121
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 5: going to be an Olympic sport.

1122
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 3: You know, why not? There's already leagues, pro leagues with like.

1123
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 5: A billion dollars of money. Like, there's a lot of

1124
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 5: money wrapped up in esports. So people sitting around playing

1125
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 5: video games and we're gonna call that a sport.

1126
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 6: Why the hell not put flag football in?

1127
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great point, it really. It's just weird

1128
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 2: that real football is not in it. You know, there's

1129
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: something that there's I have to be honest with it, right,

1130
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 2: My kids have played it. I mean every kid plays

1131
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 2: flag football, right, God bless right. It's a great thing.

1132
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 2: I say that, I really mean it. I'm not just

1133
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 2: you know, thrown it out there. But the reason why

1134
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 2: kids like it and even the parents like it, it's

1135
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 2: it's like thirty minutes and it's like really regimen. There's

1136
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 2: there's you go, like, we have a complex and if

1137
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 2: you go to this complex, there's thirty flag football games

1138
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 2: or twenty five flag football games going on at the

1139
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: same time, and it's like all slotted right, correct every age,

1140
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 2: you know time, and then just have all the and

1141
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 2: it's quick. These games are really fast. They're like a

1142
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: half hour, you know, forty minutes tops. And uh, I

1143
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 2: just looked at it and I was like, it feels

1144
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 2: so dishonest.

1145
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 5: Well, I will say Olympic style to go ahead. I

1146
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 5: was just saying, an Olympic style format. It's really difficult

1147
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 5: to play real football because you just can't get enough restaurant.

1148
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 5: What are the Olympics twelve fourteen days or something like that.

1149
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 3: You can't you can't play football.

1150
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 6: It's not real.

1151
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: I agree, you can't play football in the Olympics. I'm

1152
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 2: not suggesting that. I was just more saying it's this

1153
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 2: version of football is just.

1154
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't like it.

1155
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think I think it's would you rather

1156
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 4: have flag football or no football?

1157
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 2: How about that? No football? Because flag football isn't football.

1158
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 2: And I tell my and I'll be honest with you,

1159
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 2: And maybe it's the wrong message, all right, and I

1160
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 2: don't really care. But I have two kids that both

1161
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 2: play football, and I tell them, I go, listen to me,

1162
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 2: you're playing real football and what you do every day

1163
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 2: at practice. Anybody who's ever played football knows that practice

1164
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 2: is miserable.

1165
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 3: All right, it's not fun, it's.

1166
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 2: Hard work, it's arduous, but it's rewarding. And I tell

1167
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 2: my kids all the time, and I go, you should

1168
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 2: be proud of yourself that you're playing real football. You're

1169
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 2: not like other kids. And listen again, I'm not telling

1170
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 2: you that it's wrong. But what playing real football does.

1171
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 2: Going to practice it for two hours in the heat

1172
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 2: every night, it means more.

1173
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 3: Than show it up for a ten minute prior whatever.

1174
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 3: You practice seven to seven and you know, once a week,

1175
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 3: and then you play the game. You get my point,

1176
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 3: you're putting in work where you're playing real football.

1177
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 5: Well, I guess you'd have to put in some element

1178
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 5: of work or strategy however you could, whether it's trying

1179
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 5: to teach more elusiveness or whatever it is for flag football.

1180
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 5: But I mean, I'm I'm always forgiving more athletes point

1181
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 5: I do, one hundred percent. But on the other side,

1182
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 5: for me at least, I'm always forgiving more athletes more

1183
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,479
Speaker 5: opportunity uh to display their skills, to have a chance

1184
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 5: to say, get a sense of accomplishment.

1185
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 6: So a flag football is something that they seriously want

1186
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 6: to put in.

1187
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 5: Three on three basketball is in Like someone would say

1188
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 5: that's that's not real basketball, but that's been in for

1189
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 5: the last couple of cycles and for all into the time,

1190
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 5: decent enough, whatever you want to call it. It gives

1191
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 5: certain players who weren't good enough, talented enough, or too old,

1192
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 5: too short, whatever you want to call it, a.

1193
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 3: Chance to.

1194
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 2: Let's take time because like I hear you, and you're

1195
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 2: not wrong. We'll come right back, we'll discuss it. I

1196
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 2: think it's really interesting where the fella is hanging right

1197
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 2: here Fox Sports Radio. It's six thirty eighty three thirty

1198
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 2: the West Fellas hanging Jason fitz Kevin Figures.

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Speaker 3: I'm Anthony Gargano. Great dance.

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01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 2: I still think on the CBS Sun the Boarding Show,

1201
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 2: I did a breaking thing, like you know, when I

1202
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 2: was a kid, Like that was awesome, right, Like we

1203
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 2: loved it. Like I like, I go, hey, you can

1204
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 2: have all the sports you want, all right, flag football,

1205
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 2: all that stuff is great.

1206
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 3: And I truly mean that.

1207
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 2: But when I talk about what I'm looking at flag

1208
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 2: football through and I just see these kids, if it

1209
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 2: feels like it's just a like this is an activity.

1210
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 2: Here are a you know, if there is a hundred.

1211
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 3: All these games going on at the same time and

1212
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 3: it doesn't feel like stuff's getting taught, it doesn't feel like.

1213
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 6: Like you think it's like a pe event, Like.

1214
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:36,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.

1215
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Like I really hate it, Like I like

1216
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 2: I change.

1217
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 4: It does to change your thought though, if the point

1218
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 4: and purpose is just to be good at flag football,

1219
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 4: like if we treat it as a total separate thing,

1220
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 4: that's like, hey, I'm not doing this to get the

1221
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,919
Speaker 4: fundamentals I need to play in the NFL. I'm doing

1222
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 4: this to play a version of football kind of like

1223
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,959
Speaker 4: three on three basketball is its own sport at this point,

1224
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 4: you know, like, is there some does it ease your

1225
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 4: heart a little bit if it's just no, Yeah, we

1226
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 4: play flag football for full.

1227
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 2: Because you know why because listen, like I'm just gonna

1228
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 2: talking about my kids and the messaging. It's not about

1229
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 2: like my kids aren't gonna go play in the NFL.

1230
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 2: My kids aren't gonna go play for Nebraska, right, Like

1231
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 2: I have no delusions about that, but I think what

1232
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 2: playing football, it's just the lesson of playing football is

1233
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 2: so great like what you have to do to play football?

1234
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 2: You got it's miserable. I keep trying to tell it,

1235
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 2: like it's not fun. You know, my kid, it's going

1236
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 2: to be a freshman. You know, I was all from

1237
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 2: work the other day, like on Monday, driving the practice.

1238
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 2: We leave at six fifteen, Right, he's DACA. School's about

1239
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 2: forty minutes away. You know, get ready, you're on the field.

1240
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 2: It's blazing hot. Right, you go through your football stuff,

1241
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 2: then you go lift, right, and then you have meetings,

1242
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 2: and then the next thing you know, it's eleven fifteen,

1243
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 2: and you're like, you know, you're guessed.

1244
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 3: And I'm like, dude, this is what you accomplished.

1245
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 2: That this is a big deal that you went through

1246
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 2: this at fourteen years old, that you know, it's summertime,

1247
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 2: easy to sleep in play video games all night. But

1248
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 2: he can't play video like I told him, like, dude,

1249
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 2: you can't play. You can't stay up all night play

1250
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 2: video games. You've got to be asleep at eleven o'clock.

1251
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 2: Because if you're gonna wake up at six o'clock so

1252
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 2: we can drive you down to practice and you can

1253
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 2: get a practice and work out. That is it's the

1254
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 2: only way you could do it, you need your sleep.

1255
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 2: And so like this lesson is a great lesson in

1256
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 2: life that he's learning now. And it all due respect

1257
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 2: to flag football with you know, you show up and

1258
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, you practice what you practice

1259
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 2: for an hour whatever, it's not. It's not that what

1260
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 2: I'm talking about, and that what he's doing now will

1261
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 2: have an impact on the rest of his life.

1262
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, and now all of that is true,

1263
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 5: and I certainly understand what you mean. Maybe what we

1264
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 5: should do is just categorize them differently. I mean, we

1265
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 5: can't really compare flag football to actual football. So like

1266
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 5: if there's gonna put flag football over in its own

1267
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 5: corner and have it be its own entity, because I

1268
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 5: if you professionalize it or not professionalize it, put it

1269
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 5: into the Olympics, making an actual competition where there are

1270
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 5: practices and strategies and all of that.

1271
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 6: You can turn that into something that guys have to

1272
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 6: work hard for.

1273
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 5: Now you're not wearing pads and running into each other

1274
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 5: and doing Hell weeks and all that sort of thing.

1275
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 5: But there's a certain amount of training that you can

1276
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 5: put into it to make sure that you master it

1277
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 5: enough to have a good petition.

1278
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I look at anything that you put in breakdancing,

1279
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 2: you need to put all kinds of time.

1280
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 3: Into it if you were to compete, right, Like, that's that's.

1281
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 4: Break dancing thing. Though, let let's let's be honest as

1282
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 4: a creative from the arts, like break dancing is dancing.

1283
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 4: I have a little bit of a hard time. Like, look,

1284
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 4: there are wildly prestigious and people will laugh when they

1285
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 4: hear this, but there are violin competitions out there that

1286
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 4: you know are will make or break your entire life

1287
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 4: and make a break your career if you can actually

1288
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 4: place in them and you can get medals and you

1289
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 4: can do all of these things in violin competitions. That

1290
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 4: does not mean that I suddenly think that violinists should

1291
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 4: be Olympians. Like the concept of I sacrifice to everything

1292
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 4: to compete in this doesn't necessarily make it a sport

1293
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 4: or an Olympic sport at that. So you know, there's

1294
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,439
Speaker 4: a fine line for me, at least in my mind.

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Speaker 4: Flag football is an activity, so I like, like I

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01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 4: would be less infuriated by pickleball becoming an Olympic sport

1297
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 4: than I am by the concept of break dancing being

1298
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 4: an Olympic sports es.

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Speaker 2: Well, what's the difference in that figure skating, Uh, there's

1300
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 2: such a thing. You're being judged, right, like any any

1301
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 2: any activity where there is a judge.

1302
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:09,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean there's judges in modeling competitions too,

1303
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 4: you know, like I.

1304
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 2: Think saying like figure skating is a big time Olympic sport.

1305
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they have to do the athletic like the

1306
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 4: triples and the sucows and the lutzes, like, and they're

1307
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 4: on little blades. That seems like gymnastics.

1308
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 5: There's a level of skill, balance, all sorts of coordination.

1309
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 3: Well, well, I'm only pointies.

1310
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 2: I could make the same argue about break dancing, like,

1311
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 2: you know, it just hasn't been around.

1312
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 4: I've never liked ribbon dancing in the Olympics either. Like

1313
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 4: I'm all in for the gymnastics when they do the

1314
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 4: actual thing, but when they're just walking around tourling ribbons

1315
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 4: like synchronized swimming, a little bit weird for me. I'm

1316
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 4: gonna be honest, every time I look at it, I

1317
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 4: just think of the snl skit Like, I don't know, right, right,

1318
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 4: right right, I'm an Olympic elitist. I'll admit this.

1319
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, those some sports I just don't understand. So yes,

1320
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 5: like yes, like that the diving, you know, it's like

1321
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 5: you if you lined up nine straight divers, they all

1322
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 5: look the same to me, and it's like, wow, you

1323
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 5: really tell the difference in this splash versus this. I

1324
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 5: was like, I can't tell. It all looks the same.

1325
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 5: How this one was a nine and that was an

1326
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 5: a point too, I could I couldn't tell you.

1327
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 3: I know, it feels so subjective.

1328
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 6: You get a trained die for something like that. I don't.

1329
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 5: I we're for gymnastics, Like, all right, I can maybe

1330
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 5: tell a little bit of a difference here and there.

1331
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 2: Right on the dismount correct, you know, you go, oh wait,

1332
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 2: did they did they go to a full stop or

1333
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 2: did stumble there? Like I guess that's you know, and

1334
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 2: again like this is why people were experts in that field.

1335
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 3: We're not right, We're not an expert in.

1336
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 5: That field, which, by the way, I would hate to

1337
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 5: compete in the sport like that, or basically I can't

1338
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 5: really if you're if it's a head to head competition,

1339
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 5: if I'm a boxer, and I guess you have scorecards,

1340
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 5: so maybe that's a different example. Too, football, basketball, whatever

1341
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 5: it is subjective. Yeah, yeah, but I mean if if

1342
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 5: it's box all the time, that is true. I mean

1343
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 5: there's I mean, the controversy about boxing is specifically in

1344
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:57,679
Speaker 5: the Olympics, is that there was a lot of bribes

1345
01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 5: that have gone on throughout the years.

1346
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 3: Budget It's it's amazing how that's sport was so corrupt.

1347
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 6: Right, right, like most corrupts from what I understand for

1348
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 6: a long time.

1349
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 2: Wait a second, like there is, uh, there's a story.

1350
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 2: It's part of a bigger project that I'm working on,

1351
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 2: but boxing is a part of it, and how it

1352
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 2: was run by underground forces. And I talked to people

1353
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 2: you know, close to like the old timers that tell stories,

1354
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 2: and it's wild, like it's not just what you think,

1355
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 2: like oh oh, this guy's taking a dive. It goes

1356
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 2: well beyond that. It's it's it's bizarre. But you always wondered,

1357
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 2: and you're right about the corruption with the Olympic judges

1358
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 2: and they're like USA Russia, like there was you were

1359
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 2: the judges, the Russian judges, all the stuff. Yeah, you

1360
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 2: figure outadays if you can have robo umps, boxing should

1361
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 2: be easy because you could tell what punches landed right,

1362
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:03,759
Speaker 2: Like you could easily have a scorecard that tells you, well,

1363
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 2: he threw x amount of parts, like you already have

1364
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 2: the copy box correct, but you could take it to

1365
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 2: the degree where you have you know, flush shots are

1366
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 2: worth x amount of points, like you should be able

1367
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 2: to do it where it's not subjective.

1368
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 6: I agree, Yeah, I don't know why.

1369
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 4: It's mostly because subjective in today's society only leads to

1370
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 4: conspiracy theory. I mean, come on, we couldn't even make

1371
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 4: a change on the US basketball team without it suddenly

1372
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:31,719
Speaker 4: becoming a conversation about whether or not that was really something,

1373
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 4: you know, for for a brand Parson partnership. You know,

1374
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 4: that's just that's wild to me. We immediately presume that

1375
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,600
Speaker 4: there's something nefarious going on in every situation.

1376
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, gotta be Nike, man, that's where it is.

1377
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 5: And I love how I was like one teammate versus

1378
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 5: another too, Why did he take him?

1379
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 6: Why didn't he take me?

1380
01:10:55,600 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I know, I know. I mean, you

1381
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:03,759
Speaker 2: know the other thing about that is, when you're building

1382
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 2: constructing a team, you need role players on the team.

1383
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 5: Yes, although I will say I don't feel that that

1384
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 5: Derek White does something that Jalen Brown can't, you know.

1385
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 5: I mean, if we're just say who is a better player,

1386
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 5: Jalen Brown is definitely a better player. Not that Derek

1387
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:22,679
Speaker 5: White is terrible by any stretch. I don't necessarily feel

1388
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 5: that dead Derek White is that much more superior of

1389
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 5: what a perimeter defender.

1390
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 2: Jalen Brown is a really good defender. But here's and listen,

1391
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,799
Speaker 2: when I've taken Jalen Brown. Yes here, My only argument

1392
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 2: is if you're used to having the ball in your

1393
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 2: hand right as a scorer, sometimes it's more difficult to

1394
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 2: ratchet your game back and play a role. It's easier

1395
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:56,719
Speaker 2: for Derek Wright, just for Derek White to just play

1396
01:11:56,720 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 2: a role, to to have his game, you know, carved

1397
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:05,799
Speaker 2: out and diminished just to fulfill a certain role, whereas

1398
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 2: you know Jalen Brown's true.

1399
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 3: I love his game.

1400
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 2: I love Jalen Brown's game same, and you know it

1401
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 2: mean it's hard for it'd be hard. It's harder for

1402
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 2: the better player to now become just one dimensional.

1403
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 5: I understand that that was part of the reason when

1404
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 5: they revamped this entire thing after the debacle in Athens

1405
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 5: in two thousand and four, which is basically they just

1406
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 5: let's get the most talented players we can fit, be damned,

1407
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:30,600
Speaker 5: and that was a big reason why you had a

1408
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 5: bunch of guys who were a ball dominant, who weren't

1409
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 5: good outside shooters, didn't compliment each other well, and just

1410
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 5: thought that we can out talent our way to championships

1411
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,759
Speaker 5: to the gold because we've been doing that for years

1412
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 5: and couldn't do that anymore. So then they went to

1413
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 5: taking stars who are still star players, but star players

1414
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 5: that all fit a specific role. So I certainly understand

1415
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 5: that aspect of it. I I just don't think that

1416
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:52,839
Speaker 5: Jalen Brown's the better player. I don't think there's anything

1417
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 5: that I believe he could have filled that role better

1418
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 5: than I agree.

1419
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 4: I can't imagine how it feels to be turned down

1420
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 4: from the Olympic team and then have the answer be, well,

1421
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 4: you're just too good.

1422
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 5: Correct, Yeah, we don't think and also we don't think

1423
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 5: that you're good enough or smart enough to be able

1424
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 5: to change your game to be able to fit what

1425
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 5: we need you to be able to do.

1426
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, we need to take your lesser teammate to

1427
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 3: do that. Right.

1428
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 5: When we asked Kobe Bryant and Dwayne Wade and all

1429
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 5: these guys and their prime to be able to do that, well,

1430
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 5: we don't think you can do that.

1431
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:26,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be that would be a tough pillow.

1432
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 5: That's a tough sell, which, so to a certain degree,

1433
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 5: fits in Jaln. Brown's mind, is like, well, what will

1434
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 5: be the other reason then for them to take him

1435
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 5: over me? Maybe it is a Nike I don't know,

1436
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 5: but he's like, there has to be something else going on,

1437
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 5: because there's no way in hell they're taking this guy

1438
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 5: over me, even though I love this guy and he's

1439
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 5: my teammate.

1440
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I don't blame him one bit. I really don't.

1441
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 2: I would be completely affected as well. All right, let's

1442
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 2: take a quick too. We'll come right back. Fellas, I

1443
01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 2: gotta tell you a story about Buddy mine. We're talking

1444
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:04,640
Speaker 2: about college football and the madness that's going on to

1445
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 2: college football.

1446
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 3: It's just wild, man, It's complete chaos.

1447
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 6: Media days are here.

1448
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's pretty awesome. I'm pumped up for it.

1449
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 2: Where the Fellas hanging right here at Fox Sports Radio.

1450
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 2: Fellas Jason fits Kevin figures, I'm Anthony Gargano. College football

1451
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 2: around the corner. I gotta tell you one thing, I

1452
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 2: enjoy the h I love the news conferences, like the

1453
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 2: media days because it's like it's like the first.

1454
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 3: Sign that it's back. Right.

1455
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 2: The college football media days, the conference media days are

1456
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 2: always a big deal.

1457
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 5: Well you always get these, uh I don't how funny

1458
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:00,839
Speaker 5: is the word, but interesting comments a lot of figures

1459
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 5: as well, whether it's certain head coaches talking about how

1460
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 5: many drinks they've had and whether it's not that big

1461
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:09,600
Speaker 5: of a deal, or quarterback saying, you know what for

1462
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 5: five win teams, you know what every scene think says,

1463
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 5: we're there a super Bowl. That's Shador Sanders by the way,

1464
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 5: at Big twelve Media Day of saying that Colorado is

1465
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 5: a super Bowl on everybody's schedule.

1466
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 4: I have to I have a We could talk for

1467
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 4: half an hour on the stupidity of Gundy's statement. Right,

1468
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 4: well we get to that. I have to say with Shador,

1469
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 4: the thing that really bothered me about all of that

1470
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 4: when he says, oh, man, there's a target on me,

1471
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 4: there's a target on us. He never acknowledges the why

1472
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 4: why is there a target on Shador? Because his dad

1473
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 4: won't stop running his mouth and there is some level

1474
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 4: of like We didn't sit here have any sympathy for

1475
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 4: the Ball brothers when they came out, because we knew

1476
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 4: that the reason the Ball brothers weren't under all of

1477
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 4: that was because of their dad. Right, Like, we didn't

1478
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 4: sit there and do that and don't do that with

1479
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 4: most sons of athletes, like Marvin Harrison Junior. Wasn't suddenly,

1480
01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 4: oh my god, he's going to be like what is

1481
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 4: this was the opposite. Marvin Harrison Junior came in and

1482
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 4: it was like, man, his dad's Marvin Harrison. How good

1483
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 4: is he going to be? That's what we usually do

1484
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 4: with the children of former NFL superstars. We didn't do

1485
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 4: it with this one because his dad won't stop running

1486
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 4: his mouth. So, if you're gonna sit in front of

1487
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 4: a mic and tell me that there's a target on

1488
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 4: your back and that everybody approaches your team like it's

1489
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 4: a super Bowl and it's making your life difficult in

1490
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 4: some ways, look at your pops at Thanksgiving and say, hey, dad,

1491
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 4: stop running your damn mouth, because that would stop some of.

1492
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 2: This, Although it also adds to the mystique like again,

1493
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 2: you run, he runs. He creates this big title wave

1494
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 2: and you know, like you got to embrace that, right,

1495
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:45,759
Speaker 2: Embrace it.

1496
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 3: Embrace the fact that everybody wants to beat.

1497
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 1: Your ass, right like, embrace that.

1498
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the otherwise you don't matter. Otherwise it's

1499
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:59,839
Speaker 2: just another you know, you're just another you know, bottom

1500
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 2: hand half, bottom division team.

1501
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 5: You're yeah, well, well, ultimately the results have to show

1502
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 5: on the field too, because then you're just you're just yelling.

1503
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 5: You're old man yelling at cloud or yelling into the ether,

1504
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 5: and no one's listening. Say I'm the greatest. I like, bro,

1505
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 5: you won four games again this year? What are you like?

1506
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 5: But what does that mean? You just you're just all talk.

1507
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 5: You're a blowhard at that point. And I loved Yann

1508
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,879
Speaker 5: and I don't necessarily mind that the brashes and the confidence.

1509
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 5: If he's able to back it up on the field

1510
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 5: when he played, let's see if he can turn translate

1511
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 5: that over to coaching in Colorado.

1512
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 4: The hard part about that for any coach is that

1513
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 4: when you're playing, you can back it up because it's

1514
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,799
Speaker 4: you that has to do it. When you're a coach,

1515
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 4: that's a much different world. And look, I just I

1516
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 4: think there was a viral video of one OF's teammates

1517
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 4: yelling at him a few days ago, and I look

1518
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 4: at all this stuff and I'm like, man, it just

1519
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 4: feels like, uh, one of his one of his teammates

1520
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 4: was yelling at him about, you know, being being full

1521
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 4: of it. Basically I have to find the video on

1522
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 4: Twitter again, but like it was during some sort of

1523
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 4: a little practice thing that they were doing. And to me,

1524
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 4: I just look at all of this, I think, man,

1525
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 4: the amount of smoke that's out there. It concerns me.

1526
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 4: You know, at some point you can talk all the

1527
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 4: talk you want, you know, just because he put out

1528
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:14,600
Speaker 4: music the other day, I'm thinking of him. But like,

1529
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 4: if you go to early two thousands eminem, he could

1530
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 4: say whatever he wanted to everybody because he was so

1531
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 4: damn good, nobody was going to say a single thing

1532
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,679
Speaker 4: back to him. He could walk into award shows and

1533
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 4: for the with the very people he's trashing on records,

1534
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 4: and people still respected it because he was so good

1535
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 4: at what he did. Shideor Sanders is not the current

1536
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 4: eminem of quarterbacks in college football. Like he's not that good.

1537
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 4: So he's just not at that level where he can

1538
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 4: get away with it. It bothers the heck out of me.

1539
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got I got you. I guess I always

1540
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 2: look at it like at some point, you know what

1541
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 2: happens like you know, you just get force fed that

1542
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:58,680
Speaker 2: medicine the other issue, and you say it is the

1543
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 2: sport itself. There their trenches were just weak. Yeah, well

1544
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,879
Speaker 2: and they I mean that's what that's where he struggled building.

1545
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, because Schrdor was productive, to say the list when

1546
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 5: he had time to throw early in the season and

1547
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 5: then he just got you know, was just running for

1548
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 5: his life and got torn down towards the end. They did,

1549
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,839
Speaker 5: you know, get some good recruits and got some transfers

1550
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 5: in on the offensive line.

1551
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 6: And Dion did say a media day that one of

1552
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 6: the things that they want.

1553
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 5: He said they handled the skills first, and then this

1554
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 5: past offseason they wanted to fortify the offensive and defensive lines.

1555
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 5: So it's from a recruiting and transfer standpoint, they certainly

1556
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 5: have whether that transfers over into the field, the left

1557
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 5: to wait and see.

1558
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and make no mistake, and we'll get into this

1559
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 2: next hour. But the portal, the how you're building college teams,

1560
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 2: it's it's all so different now, it's completely wild and

1561
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 2: now you can't, you know, you have to almost look

1562
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 2: at it like you're building and NFL team. In fact,

1563
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 2: a buddy of mine, this Jake Rosenberg, who used to

1564
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 2: be Howie Roaseman's number two with the Eagles, left the

1565
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 2: Eagles to basically, in fact, he just signed the Oklahoma

1566
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 2: to be one of his first clients to look at

1567
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:20,719
Speaker 2: these programs like NFL teams.

1568
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 6: He's basically their general manager, right, that's the role.

1569
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 2: Right, So he's really consulting Oklahoma and showing him how

1570
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:33,719
Speaker 2: to do it. But we'll go it's really so interesting.

1571
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 2: We'll talk about it. Fellas hanging out right here. Fox

1572
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

1573
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1574
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:45,440
Speaker 3: Good morning, good morning, good.

1575
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 2: Morning, happy happy happy Fox Sports Saturday, July thirteenth, Baby,

1576
01:20:55,520 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 2: We're we're talking some football this hour, college foot ball.

1577
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 2: Jason fitz Kevin Figures. I'm Anthony Gargano. We come you

1578
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1582
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 2: this is uh, this is pretty fun. This is a

1583
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 2: lot of fun. This week the game comes out. We

1584
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 2: talked about a little bit last week, but this week,

1585
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 2: on the eighteenth, we will get College Football twenty five.

1586
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 3: Dude, ea, college Football twenty five. I cannot wait.

1587
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 4: Can I be a grown adult and just, like, you know,

1588
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 4: skip work for a couple of days? I mean yeah,

1589
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 4: kind of just sit around because I feel like that's

1590
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 4: the inevitability that's gonna happen. Like I I'm gonna need

1591
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 4: to just you know, basically to part the world and

1592
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 4: spend time doing nothing but playing video games like your

1593
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 4: grown man.

1594
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 2: I love it, dude, I love it. I think you

1595
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 2: should do it. I think you should come down in

1596
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 2: my uh in my new studio. We have a gamings

1597
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 2: uh section. It's like this big warehouse in Philadelphia, right,

1598
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 2: So we have the whole top floor, so we have

1599
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 2: three studios and offices and stuff. But we got like

1600
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 2: it's like a clubhouse. We got a wall TVs and

1601
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 2: then we got all of our systems and so.

1602
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 3: We're already already, we pre ordered it. We can't wait

1603
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 3: for it. We're we're and so we're.

1604
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 2: Gonna have everybody doing their shows and then we're gonna

1605
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 2: have big tournaments going on, so you should come down

1606
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 2: here and hang with us.

1607
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 4: Let's go.

1608
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 3: That's I'll have you come in.

1609
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 4: That's what I think this game is bringing that a

1610
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 4: lot of people don't necessarily understand. It's not just about

1611
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 4: the fact that it's like, Okay, there's a video game

1612
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 4: coming out. It's about the community aspect that's going to

1613
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 4: come around this video game because so many people want

1614
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 4: to play it and play it together. I just I

1615
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 4: think everyone's been clamoring for this experience of not just

1616
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:14,640
Speaker 4: the game, but the camaraderie that's gonna come with it.

1617
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 4: That's why it's gonna be so magical.

1618
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 3: Yeah you kidding me? Are you figuring?

1619
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:22,640
Speaker 9: Not?

1620
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 6: Really?

1621
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:24,560
Speaker 5: To be honest with you, not as much as I

1622
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 5: used to be, Not as much as I used to be.

1623
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:28,640
Speaker 5: The problem is, and I think I've discussed this with

1624
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 5: FITSY in the past. You know, it had been gone

1625
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 5: for so long. I've kind of transitioned out of like

1626
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 5: the gaming portion of my life at this point in time.

1627
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 5: So it's not I don't even have a system that

1628
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:38,720
Speaker 5: I can even play the game on at this point

1629
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 5: in time. As part of the issue, So look, if

1630
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 5: I'm hanging out and someone has the game, I'll fire

1631
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 5: it up and I'll play, for sure, But while I

1632
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 5: go out of my way to make sure that I

1633
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 5: purchased the system, purchase the game, and spend hours on

1634
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 5: end playing it like I used two years ago, I

1635
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:52,680
Speaker 5: don't think so.

1636
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 6: Look, I've seen the trailers. It looks amazing.

1637
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 5: The amount of work and effort they've put into this

1638
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 5: to make this as realistic as possible is is unbelievable.

1639
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 6: It really is.

1640
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 3: Uh.

1641
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 5: But unfortunately for me, I feel like that that part

1642
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:08,640
Speaker 5: of that portion of my life is sort of behind me.

1643
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 5: And had the game continue to be churned out from

1644
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 5: twenty twelve on or whenever, whenever it was discontinued, maybe

1645
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 5: I never would have lost it. But I feel like

1646
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 5: from the from the gaming standpoint of it, I've kind

1647
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 5: of that I've kind of lost the flame a little bit.

1648
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:27,599
Speaker 3: Now. Is that because you haven't you born? No, He's

1649
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 3: a big part of.

1650
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 5: It to I mean, I mean, look, I can't say

1651
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 5: that that's not a factor, but I mean I haven't.

1652
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 5: I haven't really fired a video games much in a decade,

1653
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 5: to be honest. It's just not something that that I

1654
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 5: just do. To be honest with you, so it's not

1655
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 5: not a way that I kill time these days.

1656
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,680
Speaker 2: Well, I think part of it too is, you know,

1657
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 2: you get older, you're you're married, you're doing something, you

1658
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 2: have responsibilities.

1659
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 3: The timing is is hard.

1660
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 2: Like fits, he goes, Man, I got to blow off work,

1661
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 2: I you know, I and when I'm lucky enough that

1662
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 2: I can incorporate.

1663
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:03,759
Speaker 3: It with work.

1664
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 2: Sure, So absolutely, so we're gonna we're gonna well, well,

1665
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 2: we're going to pump out all kinds of videos from

1666
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 2: the game and all the whole staff playing the game,

1667
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 2: so we're gonna incorporate it part of the business.

1668
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,560
Speaker 3: But I mean, like I'll be honest with you, I

1669
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 3: can't wait to play it. I can't wait to see

1670
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 3: it and experience it.

1671
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 2: And it's coming out the perfect time because it just

1672
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 2: nothing's gonna wet your whistle more than that for college football.

1673
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think the other part for Figgy's point, like, look,

1674
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 4: I don't play mad in anywhere the way I used to.

1675
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 4: So then you got to accept the fact that if

1676
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 4: you're getting it. And I've said this before, but I

1677
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 4: think a lot of us are gonna have to go

1678
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 4: back to like haven't played in a minute mode like

1679
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 4: it's humbling when you used to be really good at

1680
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 4: something and now you're gonna have to go through the

1681
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 4: tutorial to relearn how to play it. But even some

1682
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 4: of the highlights I've seen, I'm like, yeah, I have

1683
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 4: no idea how that's gonna work. Like my hand's gonna

1684
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 4: have to learn this game, which is gonna take a

1685
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 4: weird adjustment period. So you know, I think that in

1686
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 4: that sense, it's almost better to play with a bunch

1687
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:08,640
Speaker 4: of like skilled people in the beginning, so you're all

1688
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 4: figuring it out together and you're not getting your butt

1689
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 4: kicked by you know, a twelve year old online out

1690
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:15,760
Speaker 4: of the gates, because like, otherwise I could see that

1691
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:16,719
Speaker 4: getting ugly quick.

1692
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I'll drive you back of your retirement.

1693
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 4: One hundred percent. You're like, you know what, I tried

1694
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 4: it for a day. I'm out, but it was fun.

1695
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 4: It was fun.

1696
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1697
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, Well, I will say back in the day, when

1698
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 10: I have more time in my hands, when you could like,

1699
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 10: you know, play against people online, and if that did happen,

1700
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 10: you say, oh, hell no, I'm grind and I'm going

1701
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 10: to the detri I'm learning to this.

1702
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 5: I'm gonna face you know, whoever, this is a longhorned

1703
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 5: John seventy five five.

1704
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 6: I'm gonna find you again. I'm gonna come back and

1705
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 6: kick you ass.

1706
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 5: I don't have time for that now anymore, like, nor

1707
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:51,679
Speaker 5: do I care as much anymore for that sort of thing.

1708
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,839
Speaker 5: Uh So, it might just be a change in mindset

1709
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 5: to a certain degree when it comes to that for.

1710
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 6: Me too, more than anything else.

1711
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 11: Have you guys been following any of the releases of

1712
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 11: the player ratings kind of you know, filtering out little

1713
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 11: by little.

1714
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, last week we talked how about it, We talked

1715
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 2: a lot about it with got a rabbit hole last

1716
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 2: week we did a.

1717
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 3: I mean it was four July and stuff.

1718
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 2: But we were we were we went down a complete

1719
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 2: rabbit hole with uh where to where we would want

1720
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 2: to play, and because they did the atmosphere rankings and

1721
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 2: we were surprised at how it all turned out, so

1722
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 2: we wound up going into geek mode.

1723
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 3: But I don't want to.

1724
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 6: Rewind the clock too much.

1725
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:39,799
Speaker 5: But what what was deemed to be the toughest environment

1726
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:41,480
Speaker 5: because I'm not aware.

1727
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 4: They had Texas A and m as the toughest environment, really,

1728
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 4: which yet that's exactly what was you know, it's like, okay,

1729
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 4: that seems a little seemed a little off to us,

1730
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 4: but yeah, and we so we broke it down by conference.

1731
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 4: We went conference by conference figure out where we thought

1732
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 4: the best environments lived nice.

1733
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 5: Who would you have said, Kevin, Uh, probably probably Death Valley,

1734
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 5: to be honest, that was our consensus.

1735
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, we did rankings. It got very heated. There was

1736
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 4: a lot of voting. None of my none of my

1737
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 4: tops kept making I kept feeling that I was being

1738
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:19,680
Speaker 4: wronged in this process. But you know, we came, we

1739
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 4: came to a list that none of us could sport.

1740
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 4: You know, it's fine, that's exactly the way supposed.

1741
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 5: I'm guessing the Red feel that at Eastern Washington didn't

1742
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 5: make the cut.

1743
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:27,679
Speaker 6: But it's all right.

1744
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:31,759
Speaker 4: It did not. No, it didn't even make the combo.

1745
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest, but unbelievable to see what happens.

1746
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:36,679
Speaker 5: I leave for a week and stuff like this happens.

1747
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 5: It's unreal, to be fair.

1748
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:40,640
Speaker 11: Not even Georgia made our rankings, which is kind of

1749
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 11: a bit of a snub.

1750
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 5: It was a little bit, but I don't know, it's

1751
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 5: great as good as Georgia has been recently. I don't

1752
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 5: necessarily look at it as like, oh my god, people

1753
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 5: are really afraid to go into Georgia, you know what

1754
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 5: I mean? Just historically generally speaking, I don't see it

1755
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:01,600
Speaker 5: as a real vaunted, you know, environment for people to

1756
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 5: go into.

1757
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 3: No, you're right, I mean just for people. Just let

1758
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 3: you know.

1759
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:12,719
Speaker 2: It was a and m Alabama was two, LSU three,

1760
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:14,639
Speaker 2: Ohio State four.

1761
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 3: Georgia got the fifth highest ranking on the game.

1762
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 2: State Wisconsin, Here you go, you ready, Penn State, Wisconsin, Oklahoma,

1763
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:36,799
Speaker 2: Florida State, Florida, Oregon, Clemson, Tennessee, Auburn, South Carolina.

1764
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 3: And coming in at sixteen, Michigan.

1765
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:41,679
Speaker 6: South Carolina's before Michigan.

1766
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:46,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, is val you ready for this? This is the game?

1767
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:54,799
Speaker 3: Virginia Tech seventeen, Utah eighteen, Texas nineteen, Kinnick and Iowa

1768
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 3: twenty and then notre game twenty one.

1769
01:29:58,720 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 6: Wow.

1770
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 4: In the days behind Kennick, right, yeah, we we we

1771
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:07,200
Speaker 4: had some real questions about I think part of that

1772
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 4: is just to fire people up.

1773
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel that's that's where I was gonna go.

1774
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 3: Face.

1775
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 5: I say, they literally they did this on purpose because

1776
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:14,839
Speaker 5: they knew you would do this. They knew you dedicate

1777
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 5: four hours of your show last week to talking about

1778
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 5: it smart marketing on their.

1779
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 4: Point, we literally did you know? It was I'm not

1780
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 4: gonna lie. It was a delight. We went, we went

1781
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 4: in conference by conference. We definitely, yeah, we we lived there.

1782
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 3: I loved it.

1783
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,919
Speaker 6: Right, that's great. I'm sorry I missed it. That's amazing.

1784
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 2: Somebody took a shot after it at it's about really

1785
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 2: yeah about like, oh uh, you know, four hours of

1786
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 2: litched radio.

1787
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 4: I'm like he wanted to talk about in July fourth weekend,

1788
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 4: we missed all that great hot dog eating contest. We

1789
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 4: were supposed.

1790
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 6: To put the Reds and Marlins.

1791
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 4: My bad.

1792
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 2: It really wasn't like Listy as much as it was

1793
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 2: like an homage to Kyle was excuse to basically talk

1794
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 2: Collin's football for four hours, Right, I'd celebrate the pageantry

1795
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 2: of college football talking about what these places were, like,

1796
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:11,759
Speaker 2: like you got you know fits, He's been everywhere.

1797
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:12,639
Speaker 3: I've been everywhere.

1798
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 2: Like it's it's fun to be able to kind of

1799
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:19,679
Speaker 2: compare notes about what you experienced. I think the sports

1800
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 2: travel thing is so interesting to me, Like I I

1801
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:28,639
Speaker 2: you know, I implore people to go on the road

1802
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 2: and see this stuff. If you can like to put

1803
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 2: your vacations around it because it's so much fun.

1804
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 5: It's so rewarding, like other than like an international soccer match.

1805
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 5: I think the next best when you talk about just

1806
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:46,800
Speaker 5: the feeling the emotion of a home crowd is college

1807
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:50,600
Speaker 5: football in certain places where you just you feel it

1808
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 5: just rumbling through you. Whether it's at I don't remember,

1809
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:55,679
Speaker 5: did you say Jordan Harre was on that list? Hopefully

1810
01:31:55,720 --> 01:32:00,919
Speaker 5: it was, yeah, yeah, somewhere, Okay, I'm I mean places

1811
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 5: like that.

1812
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 3: Fourteen.

1813
01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 6: I feel like that's probably pretty low, but neither here

1814
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:05,679
Speaker 6: nor there.

1815
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 5: And then there's some like Neeland's on there, Like I

1816
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:09,720
Speaker 5: feel like in fits you can speak to this when

1817
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:12,920
Speaker 5: Tennessee is good. There's a few places that rock as

1818
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 5: much much as neland does. Yeah, but Tennessee it was thirteen.

1819
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, I gave Neeland a high ranking simply

1820
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:24,600
Speaker 4: because you know, Rocky tops annoying and ripping the goalposts

1821
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 4: out and taking him down to the river and throwing

1822
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:30,080
Speaker 4: it into the water after the Alabama wind was pretty like.

1823
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 4: But you're right, there was a period of several years

1824
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 4: where it was questionable at best.

1825
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, but that sounds like a fun conversation Yeah.

1826
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 2: I loved Neil and I got to do one of

1827
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 2: my favorite things I got to do was go to

1828
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:50,639
Speaker 2: class with Peyton, with Manning. I spent I spent ten

1829
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 2: almost almost eleven days down there, and to do a piece.

1830
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:57,800
Speaker 2: I did a big game. I covered the game, but

1831
01:32:57,840 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 2: I was also working on a big piece on Manning.

1832
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:02,840
Speaker 2: And so I went to the class with Peyton, followed

1833
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:06,919
Speaker 2: them around campus and my I loved being on that campus.

1834
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 3: That campus was amazing, man. And you know, again, this

1835
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 3: is this is vintage Tennessee Valas, right, yeah, right, this

1836
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 3: is nineties and yeah, Peyton and the whole thing, and

1837
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:23,680
Speaker 3: it was I mean, it was wild. It was a

1838
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 3: great scene, man, great great place to like just that.

1839
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 2: I remember looking being in that checkered end zone and

1840
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:34,120
Speaker 2: just looking up and going wow, you know, in the

1841
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 2: shadows of the smoky mountains like you were.

1842
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 3: It felt like football, man.

1843
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:42,320
Speaker 5: And those are the environments, those are the kind of

1844
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:44,639
Speaker 5: things that you get in college football that as much

1845
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:47,559
Speaker 5: as we love the NFL, it just can't replicate, right.

1846
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 2: Right, It's so cultural, right, It's like how we love

1847
01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:52,799
Speaker 2: the game.

1848
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:54,320
Speaker 3: The culture is a big part of it.

1849
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 4: Uh.

1850
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:58,800
Speaker 2: Now, speaking of college football, the it's so inches. I

1851
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:01,839
Speaker 2: was telling you a story about buddy of my Jake Rosenmark.

1852
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 2: He's he was the number two behind Howie Roseman for

1853
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 2: a long time as the GM assistant GM in Philadelphia.

1854
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 2: He left the Eagles to do his own consulting with

1855
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:21,599
Speaker 2: college football, big brand college football effect.

1856
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 3: He just signed Oklahoma to be one of his clients.

1857
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:31,800
Speaker 2: So he'll go down and he'll really kind of reshape

1858
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 2: these schools into front offices because you know nowadays, and

1859
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 2: I've just had this discussion with the father, another football father.

1860
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:52,400
Speaker 2: The way the whole thing's going is the portal is everything,

1861
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 2: and the portal is like your free agent pool. As

1862
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:59,679
Speaker 2: much as you'll recruit, and that will still happen, you're

1863
01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 2: gonna you're going to fill more needs, especially older teams,

1864
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 2: especially the bigger schools.

1865
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 3: The bigger programs are going.

1866
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:10,679
Speaker 2: To be like really looking at the portal to fill

1867
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 2: their needs a lieu of recruiting high school. In fact,

1868
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 2: one of the I was talking about the football dad

1869
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 2: and the prep school, like the senior year prep school

1870
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 2: when you're nineteen years old is the new thing now

1871
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 2: that you go to this prep school way station before

1872
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:37,720
Speaker 2: you go to play college football.

1873
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:41,600
Speaker 4: But what you're saying about the transfer portal and the

1874
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:45,320
Speaker 4: way it's used for recruiting to speaks to why every

1875
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 4: single person right now that's college football fan that screams about, well,

1876
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:50,839
Speaker 4: the new era, of the new era. I want schools.

1877
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:53,280
Speaker 4: I want my favorite school, whoever that is, to look

1878
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:55,480
Speaker 4: at the new era and figure out how to capitalize

1879
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:57,120
Speaker 4: on it. I want them to bring in a consultant.

1880
01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 4: I want them to hire a scouting firm that scouts

1881
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 4: every kid in college football so that they're ready for everything,

1882
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:05,240
Speaker 4: just like there's a pro scouting department for every NFL team.

1883
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 4: I want separate divisions of my college football team, one

1884
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 4: that looks at high school, one that looks at college.

1885
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 4: I want a college that smartly institutes a name, image,

1886
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:16,599
Speaker 4: likeness major that allows other kids that want to become

1887
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 4: sports lawyers and marketing managers to work with athletes so

1888
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 4: that they can start to find a way to monetize

1889
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:25,000
Speaker 4: together and everybody can learn the skill. I want these

1890
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 4: kids to actually have the opportunity to thrive in what

1891
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:29,640
Speaker 4: they want to do so that they can get the

1892
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 4: education in, for example, you know, coaching and breaking down

1893
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:36,280
Speaker 4: film and working in other ways in the industry. There

1894
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 4: are so many things that schools could stop now rebuild

1895
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:42,559
Speaker 4: and build this mountain up, this castle up in a

1896
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 4: way that would not only help the kids, but also

1897
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 4: help the future of their football program. Stop telling me

1898
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:50,639
Speaker 4: why you can't compete, and start telling me what you're

1899
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 4: doing to figure out how you can compete, because it's

1900
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 4: a very clear path in the modern culture. It takes money,

1901
01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:59,719
Speaker 4: it takes time, it takes resources, and it takes forward thinking.

1902
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 4: If your favorite football team can't do that, it's not

1903
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 4: shame on the players, it's shame on that team.

1904
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:09,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, except there is a ton of.

1905
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:14,280
Speaker 2: So I sat with one of these people that is

1906
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:19,679
Speaker 2: doing that at a very big, big school, right, big program.

1907
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 3: It's wild, right like.

1908
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:30,639
Speaker 2: So let's call it university. A university X was looking

1909
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 2: at a quarterback, right, and so the entertaining three different quarterbacks.

1910
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:41,639
Speaker 2: One was in various stages of their career, right, one

1911
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:45,639
Speaker 2: had one year of eligibility left, another one had two

1912
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:50,360
Speaker 2: years left, and another one was an incoming freshman. And

1913
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:57,519
Speaker 2: it was so very highly talented, sought after, and they're

1914
01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:02,120
Speaker 2: negotiating with the incoming freshman who it's a number, and

1915
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 2: the number is pretty outrageous, Like the number is close

1916
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 2: to five a year, five million a year, right, which is,

1917
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:15,640
Speaker 2: by the way, is guaranteed. Then you have so you

1918
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 2: have this whole negotiation going on, and in the negotiation,

1919
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:25,759
Speaker 2: not with the football guy, is the people that handle

1920
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:31,680
Speaker 2: the nil money, right, who are actually paying this the

1921
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:36,800
Speaker 2: free So you have this organization that is usually run

1922
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:43,800
Speaker 2: by a trustee of a family, all right, and it's

1923
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 2: usually one or two maybe three different very very wealthy

1924
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:52,479
Speaker 2: people without wealthy families, and they have to sign off

1925
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:58,520
Speaker 2: on everything. Like as the negotiation is happening with a quarterback,

1926
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:03,840
Speaker 2: the I who oversees the money is.

1927
01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 3: Nodding, like that's for real, for real stuff.

1928
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 4: Well, and what's gonna become interesting to me over the

1929
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:17,559
Speaker 4: course of the next ten years is as this grows

1930
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:20,360
Speaker 4: and grows and grows. Everybody tells me there's no need

1931
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 4: for return on investment. But eventually if you start paying

1932
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:28,160
Speaker 4: you know whatever, eighty kids on that are on scholarship

1933
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:31,559
Speaker 4: and average of a million dollars a year across the board.

1934
01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 4: If that's that's eighty million dollars out the door every

1935
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 4: single year for a football team, Like I understand that.

1936
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 4: Everybody says, well, the money never runs out. But in

1937
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:42,720
Speaker 4: my mind, at some point even rich people need to

1938
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:45,439
Speaker 4: see a return on investment. Like watching your team when

1939
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:48,479
Speaker 4: a championship is nice, But over the course of ten years,

1940
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:51,519
Speaker 4: can those people turn around and spend eight hundred million

1941
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:54,800
Speaker 4: dollars to try and get to that championship? And also

1942
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:57,920
Speaker 4: the facilities and also the coaching staffs, like you're gonna

1943
01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:01,720
Speaker 4: talk about needing collectives to raise billions of dollars, And

1944
01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:06,640
Speaker 4: that's I genuinely wonder. Right now, it's great, but I

1945
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 4: genuinely wonder in five or ten years, when a bunch

1946
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:11,120
Speaker 4: of these kids have transferred they didn't work out, you

1947
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 4: realize that the five million dollars may only buy you

1948
01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:16,679
Speaker 4: a backup. The money that's being spent doesn't really actually return.

1949
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:19,439
Speaker 4: Sometimes that money's gonna become public and then when a

1950
01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 4: player doesn't work out, our fans gonna turn around and

1951
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:24,400
Speaker 4: rip the person that helped bring that money in. Like

1952
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:27,000
Speaker 4: all of these different negatives, I just wonder if some

1953
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 4: of it normalizes over the course of the next five

1954
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 4: to ten years.

1955
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 3: Well, the other issue is you're gonna have.

1956
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 2: Like so you have the how the all the money,

1957
01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:40,320
Speaker 2: the athletic money, is allocated, right, So they have Title

1958
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 2: nine there is you know, like all of a sudden,

1959
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:46,360
Speaker 2: like it's going to affect soccer in a big way.

1960
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:48,960
Speaker 2: I guess they the roster size is going to get

1961
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 2: cut dramatically. I think they could carry you like fifty

1962
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 2: five kids and that's not gonna get slashed. So how

1963
01:40:57,120 --> 01:40:59,599
Speaker 2: the money's allocated, right, is gonna be a big deal.

1964
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:03,519
Speaker 2: And they know this, right that at some point a

1965
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:06,479
Speaker 2: football player is going to file a suit and say, well,

1966
01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:11,160
Speaker 2: wait a second, why should we get paid equal to

1967
01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:16,680
Speaker 2: pick any other sport when we're the ones bringing in

1968
01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:20,760
Speaker 2: all the revenue right, like football is bringing all the

1969
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 2: revenue in for everything, So should you be get paid

1970
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:31,599
Speaker 2: commensurate to what the revenue is being generated? So they

1971
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:34,680
Speaker 2: know this, and they know that's at some point some

1972
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:37,080
Speaker 2: football players is going to file suit and saying that's

1973
01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:37,559
Speaker 2: not fair.

1974
01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:40,320
Speaker 5: Isn't this all just kind of gearing towards these guys

1975
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:43,720
Speaker 5: being professionals and unionizing at a certain point, no matter

1976
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 5: how they try to.

1977
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:51,880
Speaker 2: Fight screw you, I don't well, it's yes, you're right

1978
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:55,840
Speaker 2: and and and like their needs like, at some point,

1979
01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:57,560
Speaker 2: I don't know how you avoid that.

1980
01:41:58,080 --> 01:41:59,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the money is going to be so

1981
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 5: great for football to you're to your point especially, and

1982
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 5: they're gonna have to allocate so many and so much

1983
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 5: of their athletic department funds to football players and maybe

1984
01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:09,760
Speaker 5: basketball players.

1985
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:11,280
Speaker 6: They're the revenue generating sports.

1986
01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:14,160
Speaker 5: I mean, you're basically gonna have universities that have no

1987
01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:16,800
Speaker 5: athletic program outside of those two because they can't.

1988
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:17,920
Speaker 6: They said, we can't afford it.

1989
01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:21,479
Speaker 2: All that thought, because that's exactly what I wanted to

1990
01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:25,640
Speaker 2: bring up next from what I heard that that's the

1991
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:29,240
Speaker 2: next trickle down where the Fellas as we hang out

1992
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:37,200
Speaker 2: on a Fox Sports Saturday alright, seven thirty across the

1993
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 2: East for thirty in the West on a Saturday morning,

1994
01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:43,800
Speaker 2: July the thirteenth, of Fellas.

1995
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 3: Jason Fitzkevin figures on Anthi Arganda.

1996
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 2: We're talking to college football, the landscape which is changing

1997
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:51,520
Speaker 2: so dramatically.

1998
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 4: You know.

1999
01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:55,800
Speaker 2: We talk about the conferences, right, and then the Pac

2000
01:42:55,960 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 2: twelve just kind of disappearing before our eyes. All the

2001
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:05,880
Speaker 2: movement and the big schools going to these foreign conferences.

2002
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:09,519
Speaker 3: That alone is a shake up, but the business and

2003
01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:10,840
Speaker 3: the actual.

2004
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:18,200
Speaker 2: How it all happens in college football is completely upside down.

2005
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 2: It's completely wild and it feels like it's the wild West, lawless, and.

2006
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:29,120
Speaker 3: They are rules.

2007
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 2: There are no rules, and I think they're trying to

2008
01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:36,559
Speaker 2: adapt to this, and so they're all trying to figure out,

2009
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:39,759
Speaker 2: all right, what's the pro model. So having a general

2010
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 2: manager or a personnel guy that understands the landscape on

2011
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:46,200
Speaker 2: how to build a football team to challenge.

2012
01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:47,719
Speaker 3: Again, you're talking.

2013
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 2: About basically five years, right, So you're recruiting every year,

2014
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:57,320
Speaker 2: you're looking at these five year windows, you're right, or

2015
01:43:57,400 --> 01:43:58,519
Speaker 2: you're trying to reach your player.

2016
01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 3: So the portal is a bit big deal.

2017
01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:04,519
Speaker 2: And then the prep school is a big deal because

2018
01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:09,640
Speaker 2: it's just another way to get maturity for kids. You know,

2019
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:13,800
Speaker 2: it's so interesting, like this stuff happens at the youth level, right,

2020
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 2: So the big deal now is reclassification for these kids. So,

2021
01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:23,479
Speaker 2: like I think I told you guys last year, we

2022
01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 2: were when my anthe was in eighth grade, we were

2023
01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:30,720
Speaker 2: playing a team and I walk over the field and

2024
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:35,000
Speaker 2: these kids are like my size. All right, They're driving

2025
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:39,280
Speaker 2: to the game and I'm going, oh my god, what's

2026
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:43,439
Speaker 2: the deal? And they're all reclassified instead of being the

2027
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:47,360
Speaker 2: anthey was like thirteen at the time. You know, these

2028
01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:50,479
Speaker 2: kids were like fifteen and sixteen who were eighth but

2029
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:55,280
Speaker 2: that reclassification is the big deal. So they want them older,

2030
01:44:56,120 --> 01:44:59,559
Speaker 2: more mature to play. And college football is no different

2031
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 2: to the NFL. So now the NFL guys are getting

2032
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:04,000
Speaker 2: kids that are twenty five and twenty six.

2033
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:08,080
Speaker 4: That's a really important part of this conversation too, because

2034
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:09,760
Speaker 4: as we talked about last week, and I was just

2035
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:12,800
Speaker 4: in Jacksonville a few weeks ago for Rivals five Star

2036
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 4: camp and more and more we see these high school

2037
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:19,840
Speaker 4: kids are in the business of football right, So part

2038
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 4: of this is they are older. We need to remember

2039
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:23,639
Speaker 4: that guys are going to get into the league older

2040
01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:26,240
Speaker 4: because of all of this, which also means they're gonna

2041
01:45:26,280 --> 01:45:29,479
Speaker 4: have less time when they're there for NFL squads. It

2042
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:32,680
Speaker 4: means you better be better than draft greater drafting. Then

2043
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:34,880
Speaker 4: you better be better than you've bet at drafting, I

2044
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:38,120
Speaker 4: should say, for years, because if we're being real, you're

2045
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 4: gonna have less contract cycles if it works out. So

2046
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:43,479
Speaker 4: like the age change, I think it's pretty substantial and

2047
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:45,559
Speaker 4: we're gonna only see more of it over the next

2048
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:47,920
Speaker 4: few years. And so much of it is just about

2049
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:50,679
Speaker 4: the fact that there are millions of dollars at stake,

2050
01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:53,840
Speaker 4: and that's the biggest difference, like the college football level

2051
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:55,720
Speaker 4: at this point. And I know we had a coach

2052
01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 4: last week saying that his quarterback was wooed by another

2053
01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:01,360
Speaker 4: school for six hundred k a year. Peple freaked out, like, y'all,

2054
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 4: I'm here to tell you, six hundred k is about

2055
01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 4: backup money for a lot of places. Now for a

2056
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:09,519
Speaker 4: kid to go into place, six hundred k is I

2057
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:11,840
Speaker 4: mean that that's a lot of money. To all of

2058
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:14,600
Speaker 4: us listening, six hundred k is nowhere near what some

2059
01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 4: of these kids were getting offer wise that I was

2060
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 4: around in Jacksonville. So it's just it's a reminder that

2061
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:22,240
Speaker 4: the money is real and now all of a sudden,

2062
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:24,640
Speaker 4: as a parent, if you can reclassify your kid and

2063
01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 4: you think that that means they have a better chance

2064
01:46:27,439 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 4: of making a million dollars, you're gonna do it every

2065
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 4: single time.

2066
01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 2: Yes, Because here's here's what the opportunity also opens up

2067
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:38,800
Speaker 2: is that it used to be like all right, well,

2068
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:42,040
Speaker 2: you know, one, I don't use to the numbers for it.

2069
01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:45,280
Speaker 2: The numbers one percent right of all players are gonna

2070
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 2: get to the NFL well, now, if you're talking about

2071
01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:53,400
Speaker 2: the division and football and that helps widen the field.

2072
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:57,320
Speaker 3: And if you could actually get paid to play football,

2073
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:00,280
Speaker 3: well are.

2074
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:04,519
Speaker 2: You actually it's actually somewhat attainable, right, if you have

2075
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:09,000
Speaker 2: an athletic kid who works, who's got su size to them, well,

2076
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:13,200
Speaker 2: now it's attainable. You may not be playing at you know,

2077
01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:17,439
Speaker 2: Oregon or playing at Alabama, but you know, if you're

2078
01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:21,760
Speaker 2: playing at Cincinnati, you're getting to check and an education.

2079
01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:24,200
Speaker 5: Could also transfer up. Because what's gonna end up happening

2080
01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:26,679
Speaker 5: is your non power five schools. And this has already

2081
01:47:26,720 --> 01:47:27,759
Speaker 5: started happening recently.

2082
01:47:28,360 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 3: You know where it's happening.

2083
01:47:29,240 --> 01:47:29,400
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2084
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:31,839
Speaker 5: Basically it was like they're gonna be treated like community

2085
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:35,280
Speaker 5: colleges was treated. Correct, So who's going to play a

2086
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:37,800
Speaker 5: community college? I have no idea, but basically, the non

2087
01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:39,680
Speaker 5: power of five kids are going to be transferring out

2088
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 5: of your smaller schools and going to your Michigan or

2089
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 5: Ohio states after getting bigger, getting stronger, uh, and they're

2090
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:48,000
Speaker 5: gonna be able to basically double downs like all right,

2091
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:52,040
Speaker 5: well I made five K at whatever school Utah State, Well,

2092
01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 5: now I'm gonna transfer to Utah and I'm gonna make

2093
01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:56,600
Speaker 5: five hundred K. I'm a better player now than I

2094
01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:58,720
Speaker 5: was two years ago because I wasn't being recruited. But

2095
01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 5: now that I now, I am being recruited by the

2096
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:02,360
Speaker 5: bigger schools because they see what kind of player that

2097
01:48:02,400 --> 01:48:03,040
Speaker 5: I've turned into.

2098
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:06,040
Speaker 2: And what happens is they're I'm sorry real quick. Then

2099
01:48:06,040 --> 01:48:09,320
Speaker 2: what happens is the Michigans and all those big Power

2100
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:12,960
Speaker 2: five schools are you are looking to pill for those

2101
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:15,160
Speaker 2: schools instead of recruiting.

2102
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 3: At a high school. Correct? Correct?

2103
01:48:17,479 --> 01:48:22,439
Speaker 2: And that changes the other aspect of, Hey, the college

2104
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:25,560
Speaker 2: experience going to one school and playing for four or

2105
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:29,880
Speaker 2: five years, and now it's you know, jump around, jump around.

2106
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 4: I think part of that too. Yeah, well done, camp rat.

2107
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:36,040
Speaker 4: But when you say that, what we have to remember

2108
01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:37,759
Speaker 4: is that there's going to be a ton of programs

2109
01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:40,320
Speaker 4: that look around and say, hey, I'd rather recruit somebody

2110
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:42,280
Speaker 4: I'm already watching play college ball because I have a

2111
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:44,320
Speaker 4: good idea of how that skill set's going to translate.

2112
01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:47,360
Speaker 4: Like that, you have way less variables, and you know, Cousin,

2113
01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:51,840
Speaker 4: you mentioned earlier how much more opportunity there is for earning,

2114
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:55,479
Speaker 4: so I googled it. There are around two thousand players

2115
01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:58,479
Speaker 4: in the NFL Players Association on any given year, around

2116
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:01,840
Speaker 4: two thousand players total. That's the totality of everything. The

2117
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:05,879
Speaker 4: number of scholarship athletes in Division IE playing college football

2118
01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:08,960
Speaker 4: this year are sixteen thousand, six hundred and seventy one.

2119
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 4: So that's this year loan sixteen thousand. Like there's two

2120
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:16,600
Speaker 4: thousand total in the entire career right now of the NFLPAH,

2121
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:19,519
Speaker 4: you got all different years. There's sixteen thousand kids every

2122
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:22,680
Speaker 4: single year playing college football that are on scholarship. So

2123
01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:26,519
Speaker 4: that's so much more opportunity for earning. You're if you're

2124
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:29,000
Speaker 4: a kid that might not be ever sniff the league,

2125
01:49:29,320 --> 01:49:31,680
Speaker 4: you're never going to get to that point. Now you

2126
01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:33,760
Speaker 4: can still bring home a little bit of cash for

2127
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:35,680
Speaker 4: all the work that you've done. I think that's a

2128
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:38,280
Speaker 4: beautiful thing. But schools have to figure out how to

2129
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:38,920
Speaker 4: navigate it.

2130
01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:41,040
Speaker 3: No, and it is a beautiful thing.

2131
01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:43,280
Speaker 2: Like again, I'm looking at my aunt right he's just

2132
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:47,680
Speaker 2: coming down and feeding the dogs, and I'm thinking to myself.

2133
01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 3: Hey, you know he's got a little size.

2134
01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:53,880
Speaker 2: He keeps working hard, he keeps lifting, he keeps slept,

2135
01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:57,320
Speaker 2: but he might have a chance to go play college football.

2136
01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:01,320
Speaker 2: What money in his pocket while he's getting an education?

2137
01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:05,559
Speaker 2: What to start on life? That is, instead of leaving

2138
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:11,800
Speaker 2: school riddled with you know, debt. Right, you get out of.

2139
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:14,919
Speaker 3: School, you got money in a bag and an education

2140
01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:16,360
Speaker 3: to hit the workforce.

2141
01:50:17,479 --> 01:50:20,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, And this is going to come back

2142
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:22,599
Speaker 4: to a core principle I say all the time. Shouldn't

2143
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:26,240
Speaker 4: our objective be that the next generation have it better

2144
01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:29,400
Speaker 4: than this generation every single time? So for anybody that

2145
01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:31,080
Speaker 4: sits there, Like when we all grew up with the

2146
01:50:31,160 --> 01:50:33,200
Speaker 4: jokes about well, I walked up hill both ways to

2147
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:35,040
Speaker 4: school with no shoes, like all the things that our

2148
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:37,800
Speaker 4: parents said about how tough it was. Okay, I think

2149
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 4: one thing we've realized is it's just because it was

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Speaker 4: tough for us in different spots doesn't mean that it

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Speaker 4: needs to be tough in the same places, in the

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01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 4: same ways for the kids that are grown up. Like

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01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:50,080
Speaker 4: if there's a chance for college athletes today to walk

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01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:52,280
Speaker 4: out of school with the free education and money in

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01:50:52,280 --> 01:50:55,360
Speaker 4: their pocket, knowing that, by the way, not for nothing,

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01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:58,040
Speaker 4: they might walk out with hip issues and knee issues

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01:50:58,120 --> 01:51:00,200
Speaker 4: and back issues and brain issues and all these other

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01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:02,519
Speaker 4: things that come with it. For the rest of their lives.

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01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:04,519
Speaker 4: Like if they get a little cash for all that

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01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:07,639
Speaker 4: they put on the line, I think that's absolutely incredible.

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01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:09,479
Speaker 4: What's complicated about, you know.

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01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:09,960
Speaker 3: Real quick?

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01:51:10,080 --> 01:51:12,360
Speaker 2: And just to add this a addentum to that, and

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01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:16,680
Speaker 2: the fact that they're providing entertainment for the masses, right,

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01:51:17,200 --> 01:51:20,759
Speaker 2: they're like the television aspect, all they're doing is getting

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01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:24,840
Speaker 2: rewarded for what they should be getting rewarded because we

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01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 2: love the sport, we consume the sport, and all that money,

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01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:33,400
Speaker 2: those wealthy, wealthy TV deals, all right, that's just what's right,

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01:51:34,120 --> 01:51:34,599
Speaker 2: that's all.

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Speaker 4: That is well. And also that's those huge TV moments

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01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:42,880
Speaker 4: where they're giving us entertainment. They're also advertising for their school.

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01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:45,439
Speaker 4: And for anyone that's never looked up the data, look

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01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:47,599
Speaker 4: up the change and enrollment for a team that wins

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01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:51,719
Speaker 4: a national championship, there's actual money that's made by schools

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01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:55,719
Speaker 4: by being good at certain sports. That's real, that's been tested,

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01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 4: that's been figured out. So like there's a tangible value

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01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:03,240
Speaker 4: for Alabama not just because of the TV money, but

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01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:06,439
Speaker 4: because more people go to Alabama because their football program

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01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:08,240
Speaker 4: is good every year. So giving a kid a cut

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01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:11,479
Speaker 4: of that is amazing. It just is about to get

2181
01:52:11,560 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 4: really complicated, because you can't everything that the college football

2182
01:52:15,040 --> 01:52:17,280
Speaker 4: faces right now is their own fault because the NCAA

2183
01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:20,240
Speaker 4: never did anything. Now, how do you get kids from

2184
01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:23,160
Speaker 4: all over the country to unionize, which is probably what

2185
01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:25,880
Speaker 4: needs to happen, but is wildly difficult to do. What

2186
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:27,920
Speaker 4: are they going to do with health insurance? And now

2187
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:29,800
Speaker 4: that Supreme Court has come out with the ruling that

2188
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:32,360
Speaker 4: they should be handled as employees, what are they doing

2189
01:52:32,439 --> 01:52:34,760
Speaker 4: with workers comp? And I know people don't even think

2190
01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:37,920
Speaker 4: about that, but all I would say is that I

2191
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 4: went to a seminar to help a buddy that's an

2192
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 4: NFL agent, and he spent the first several hours of

2193
01:52:43,479 --> 01:52:46,080
Speaker 4: the seminar talking to his existing players about the importance

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01:52:46,120 --> 01:52:48,840
Speaker 4: of folowing the correct workers' comp claims at the correct

2195
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:51,360
Speaker 4: times for their respective teams, Like this is real for

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01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:53,840
Speaker 4: the rest of their lives. Those are issues that college

2197
01:52:53,880 --> 01:52:56,559
Speaker 4: football players don't have to think about that they're now going.

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01:52:56,439 --> 01:52:59,880
Speaker 3: To Yeah, that's fast.

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01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:04,200
Speaker 2: I know a guy that has an insurance, big sports

2200
01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 2: insurance business in Minnesota, and his next thing is now

2201
01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:13,840
Speaker 2: going into its all youth sports, and now it's the

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01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 2: college game.

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01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 3: Because this is when you're right.

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01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:20,599
Speaker 2: All those little things that you don't even think about,

2205
01:53:22,240 --> 01:53:25,320
Speaker 2: from the ad, from the individual players standpoint now come

2206
01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:30,120
Speaker 2: into play when it's just, hey, we're getting an education,

2207
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:33,560
Speaker 2: right like before it was like you've got scholarship and

2208
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:37,640
Speaker 2: this is what it is. Now it's completely different and

2209
01:53:37,720 --> 01:53:40,320
Speaker 2: it should be different. And what needs to happen is

2210
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:44,840
Speaker 2: they just need to create a new system, right like

2211
01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:48,599
Speaker 2: you got to have someone come in and I don't

2212
01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:51,759
Speaker 2: know whether it's you know you want you you probably

2213
01:53:51,760 --> 01:53:54,720
Speaker 2: don't want Congress, but you might need it to come

2214
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:58,680
Speaker 2: in and put forth a system for the whole thing,

2215
01:53:58,840 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 2: because that's what it's crazy.

2216
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:03,679
Speaker 6: It needs a commissioner. Yes, college football needs a commissioner.

2217
01:54:04,240 --> 01:54:07,559
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, hold the thought. We'll get right

2218
01:54:07,640 --> 01:54:14,280
Speaker 2: back to it. Fellas Fox Sports Radio. Fellas hanging out

2219
01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:23,320
Speaker 2: on a July Saturday. It's a uh it's a great story, man. Uh,

2220
01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 2: this is what's happening. Like this college football thing is

2221
01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:30,400
Speaker 2: it's wild, right, Like so you said it before we

2222
01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:35,200
Speaker 2: paid some bills, which is the sport needs commissioner and

2223
01:54:35,480 --> 01:54:38,480
Speaker 2: you need you like it needs a lot of It

2224
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:43,200
Speaker 2: needs to create its own system, right because like to

2225
01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:47,760
Speaker 2: your point, the portal itself is a free agent pool.

2226
01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:51,839
Speaker 2: So you're basically talking about, you know, recurring free agency.

2227
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:58,480
Speaker 2: What rights do the university have if you sign a

2228
01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:03,960
Speaker 2: guarantee like I believe in you, You're gonna be my cornerback,

2229
01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:06,160
Speaker 2: and I'm want to pay you X amount of dollars.

2230
01:55:06,640 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 2: Now you outperform and you become one of the best

2231
01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 2: corners of the country, and now Alabama wants you, Well,

2232
01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:16,080
Speaker 2: what's my recourse for building you?

2233
01:55:16,520 --> 01:55:18,200
Speaker 3: Does Alabama owe me money?

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01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:19,720
Speaker 9: Like?

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01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:20,600
Speaker 4: You know?

2236
01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:23,840
Speaker 2: Like you know how it goes in soccer right where

2237
01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:26,480
Speaker 2: you buy players off of other other teams?

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01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:27,880
Speaker 3: How does that work?

2239
01:55:29,200 --> 01:55:29,360
Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 2: When when does the one smaller school say, where's my compensation?

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Speaker 4: Also, I don't I mean, that's a wild answer, and

2242
01:55:39,080 --> 01:55:42,480
Speaker 4: I could totally see buyouts becoming a part of everything

2243
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:46,600
Speaker 4: that has to happen. I also am curious if you're

2244
01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:49,640
Speaker 4: someone that was part of the collective to put together

2245
01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:53,160
Speaker 4: the massive offer for Arch Manning and Arch sits year

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01:55:53,200 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 4: one and Arch sits here two because Quinn Uwers plays

2247
01:55:56,280 --> 01:55:59,240
Speaker 4: really well. Then Arts comes out his junior year at

2248
01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:02,440
Speaker 4: that point or they red shirting, maybe sophomore that way,

2249
01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:05,880
Speaker 4: but he comes out and absolutely crushes it his first

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Speaker 4: season then goes into the draft. If you are part

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Speaker 4: of the collective that reportedly put up over fifteen million

2252
01:56:13,240 --> 01:56:16,040
Speaker 4: dollars to get arts to Texas, was that worth it?

2253
01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:21,040
Speaker 4: Like that one season football? That's the other weird part

2254
01:56:21,080 --> 01:56:23,760
Speaker 4: about all of this, because you said earlier like, once

2255
01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:28,000
Speaker 4: that money spent, it's spent, and so I just don't

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01:56:28,040 --> 01:56:30,200
Speaker 4: know how sustainable that portion of the model is.

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01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great question because but you know they're

2258
01:56:36,920 --> 01:56:40,720
Speaker 2: going to say, hey, well my quarterback, like it was

2259
01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:46,160
Speaker 2: pretty the circumstance of going behind Huers. Well, I think

2260
01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:50,200
Speaker 2: what will happen is you'll see more quote unquote, I'm

2261
01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:55,360
Speaker 2: using the term lightly franchise quarterbacks right, like, well, they'll

2262
01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:58,160
Speaker 2: be in search of the franchise quarterback who will start

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01:56:58,280 --> 01:56:58,760
Speaker 2: right away.

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01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:05,000
Speaker 3: Yep. This way you maximize the investment dollars.

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01:57:06,040 --> 01:57:08,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, because if you only have three years with the kid,

2266
01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:11,800
Speaker 4: you can't have him sit too, you know. And sure

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01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:13,600
Speaker 4: we'd love a concept where we get four years with

2268
01:57:13,640 --> 01:57:16,480
Speaker 4: the kid, but especially if it's a reclassified kid that's

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01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:19,040
Speaker 4: maybe older coming in and then all of a sudden

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01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:21,120
Speaker 4: he you know, he wants to get to the league

2271
01:57:21,160 --> 01:57:24,360
Speaker 4: to start earning as quickly as possible. I mean, most

2272
01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:26,280
Speaker 4: of these quarterbacks, if they do what they intend to do,

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01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:29,120
Speaker 4: are going to think about coming out after their junior year.

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01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:32,040
Speaker 4: There's there's just there's money at stakes, so you know,

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01:57:32,680 --> 01:57:35,360
Speaker 4: and I think nil in some ways helps other positions.

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01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:38,160
Speaker 4: I think if you're the best running back in college football,

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01:57:38,600 --> 01:57:40,480
Speaker 4: you might be able to make more money staying in

2278
01:57:40,560 --> 01:57:42,960
Speaker 4: school than you would make being drafted in the fourth

2279
01:57:43,040 --> 01:57:44,320
Speaker 4: round and start in that process.

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Speaker 3: You know, Oh, that's a great point.

2281
01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:51,880
Speaker 2: The running back is way more valuable in college than

2282
01:57:51,920 --> 01:57:52,760
Speaker 2: it is in the NFL.

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01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:55,760
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're a fourth round pick that's going

2284
01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:58,040
Speaker 4: to make a few million dollars up front, you want

2285
01:57:58,080 --> 01:57:59,600
Speaker 4: to get to that second contract quickly.

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01:57:59,640 --> 01:57:59,960
Speaker 3: I get that.

2287
01:58:00,280 --> 01:58:04,760
Speaker 4: But if you're also a running back at Texas and

2288
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:07,120
Speaker 4: all of a sudden they really want you to stick around,

2289
01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:09,680
Speaker 4: and you might be making more in that last year

2290
01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:11,440
Speaker 4: that you stayed in Texas than you'll make on your

2291
01:58:11,560 --> 01:58:13,840
Speaker 4: entire rookie deal, and you know that the NFL is

2292
01:58:14,120 --> 01:58:15,880
Speaker 4: hesitant to give out second is you gotta take the

2293
01:58:15,880 --> 01:58:17,560
Speaker 4: money when you can get the money if it's actual.

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01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:21,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, running backs, you're right, it's a great point.

2295
01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:24,240
Speaker 2: And running backs will want to stay in school longer

2296
01:58:25,160 --> 01:58:28,720
Speaker 2: instead of going and getting devalue in the NFL.

2297
01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:32,560
Speaker 4: I wonder about what happens to fat boys too, Like

2298
01:58:32,640 --> 01:58:34,440
Speaker 4: do offensive lineman take the same approach?

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01:58:34,480 --> 01:58:38,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like when you think about it in

2300
01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:43,520
Speaker 2: those terms, it's pretty wild, right, Like this is this

2301
01:58:43,720 --> 01:58:46,240
Speaker 2: is our biggest sport, the sport that we love in

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01:58:46,320 --> 01:58:52,320
Speaker 2: this country the most. And the NFL will be affected,

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01:58:52,640 --> 01:59:00,200
Speaker 2: make no mistake by whatever college football becomes the NFL. Well,

2304
01:59:01,120 --> 01:59:04,760
Speaker 2: you know there'll be consequences good or bad or you know,

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01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:06,800
Speaker 2: or both with the league.

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01:59:09,160 --> 01:59:12,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the league's gonna have to adjust everything. The

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01:59:13,000 --> 01:59:17,120
Speaker 4: good for the league is there's less speculation on a

2308
01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:19,520
Speaker 4: lot of guys because they will be older. The bad

2309
01:59:19,600 --> 01:59:21,840
Speaker 4: for the league is that you'll have more guys that

2310
01:59:21,880 --> 01:59:23,840
Speaker 4: have jumped from place to place to place to play.

2311
01:59:24,600 --> 01:59:27,120
Speaker 4: Have they been as developed? Are they as like? Physically

2312
01:59:27,200 --> 01:59:29,200
Speaker 4: they might be more ready, but mentally are they like?

2313
01:59:29,480 --> 01:59:32,080
Speaker 4: These are all of the extra things that the league's

2314
01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:33,640
Speaker 4: gonna have to adjust. And the funny thing to me

2315
01:59:33,760 --> 01:59:36,320
Speaker 4: is we've never heard the NFL once come out. NFL

2316
01:59:36,400 --> 01:59:38,480
Speaker 4: side is not complaining about any of this and how

2317
01:59:38,520 --> 01:59:40,600
Speaker 4: it changes their world, even though there's impact to it.

2318
01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:43,640
Speaker 4: They're like, all right, well, so what now, let's figure

2319
01:59:43,640 --> 01:59:46,400
Speaker 4: it out. So, you know, college football is sitting there

2320
01:59:46,400 --> 01:59:48,480
Speaker 4: in the wild wild West, which impacts the NFL. I'm

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01:59:48,520 --> 01:59:52,360
Speaker 4: surprised that the NFL isn't even acknowledging that it changes

2322
01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:53,600
Speaker 4: their world. But they just don't care.

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01:59:54,400 --> 02:00:01,160
Speaker 3: No, no, they don't care. It's uh, it's so nuts.

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Speaker 2: It really is, like how the whole thing will play

2325
02:00:06,120 --> 02:00:10,400
Speaker 2: out and what will affect basketball? Like will basketball be

2326
02:00:10,640 --> 02:00:16,480
Speaker 2: helped college basketball by kids staying in school? Like when

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Speaker 2: we come back, let's take a look at it from

2328
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Speaker 2: other sports vantage points, Like, you know, I could see

2329
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Speaker 2: a world where a world where college basketball gets pumped up.

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Speaker 2: Fellas hanging Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: happy happy, Fox Sports Saturday, July thirteenth.

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Speaker 2: I've been all over the gamut today, from preserving sports

2341
02:01:13,960 --> 02:01:20,520
Speaker 2: history to college football and rewriting history and rewriting how

2342
02:01:20,640 --> 02:01:25,720
Speaker 2: the sport is made and how the sport rolls. In fact,

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02:01:26,920 --> 02:01:31,240
Speaker 2: we've been a fun conversation, really interesting conversation. My man

2344
02:01:31,360 --> 02:01:36,400
Speaker 2: Chucky Southside Chuck is like, hey, don't forget. Schools will

2345
02:01:36,400 --> 02:01:37,360
Speaker 2: also have to come up with the.

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Speaker 3: Settlement money every year to pay past and present athletes. Remember,

2347
02:01:42,880 --> 02:01:46,360
Speaker 3: the athletes of the recent past will also all be

2348
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Speaker 3: getting paid. So how the whole thing winds up? Now,

2349
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Speaker 3: what will it be?

2350
02:01:52,840 --> 02:01:57,960
Speaker 2: Will it make for a better product? So let me

2351
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Speaker 2: ask you, guys, will it make for a that are

2352
02:02:01,160 --> 02:02:04,800
Speaker 2: basketball product? Well, one of the issues that we just

2353
02:02:04,840 --> 02:02:08,000
Speaker 2: saw play out with the NBA draft is that nobody

2354
02:02:08,160 --> 02:02:10,840
Speaker 2: knows the kids, right, Like, you don't know that the

2355
02:02:11,320 --> 02:02:14,440
Speaker 2: forget the Euros for a second, but the ones, the

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02:02:15,000 --> 02:02:19,720
Speaker 2: college kids, unless you just dive int the way, most

2357
02:02:19,840 --> 02:02:23,040
Speaker 2: people don't know them. And they're coming out and there's

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Speaker 2: such a crapshoot that they're coming out as half bake pies.

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Speaker 3: You know, well they fully bake in the league. You

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02:02:30,600 --> 02:02:34,520
Speaker 3: don't know. So I have to believe that this system

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Speaker 3: should benefit.

2362
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Speaker 2: College basketball could benefit a big way because now all

2363
02:02:41,880 --> 02:02:44,400
Speaker 2: of a sudden, the incentive is to stay in school

2364
02:02:45,120 --> 02:02:48,880
Speaker 2: and you'll be able to enjoy kind of these teams

2365
02:02:49,000 --> 02:02:49,720
Speaker 2: growing together.

2366
02:02:51,120 --> 02:02:55,600
Speaker 4: So I was hanging out with Vinnie Goodwill recently, who

2367
02:02:55,800 --> 02:03:00,560
Speaker 4: covers the NBA for Yahoo, and I asked him how

2368
02:03:00,640 --> 02:03:03,720
Speaker 4: important Cooper Flag is, the phenom that we've all heard

2369
02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:07,720
Speaker 4: about that's committed to Duke and that everybody knows is

2370
02:03:08,320 --> 02:03:11,280
Speaker 4: just kicking Team USA's butt, right, And how important is

2371
02:03:11,320 --> 02:03:12,919
Speaker 4: he to the future of college basketball?

2372
02:03:13,040 --> 02:03:13,480
Speaker 3: Was my question?

2373
02:03:13,600 --> 02:03:16,200
Speaker 4: And then he said, you're thinking too small. He's important

2374
02:03:16,200 --> 02:03:18,600
Speaker 4: in the future of all basketball because when's the last

2375
02:03:18,640 --> 02:03:22,520
Speaker 4: time in America we saw homegrown, you know, all American

2376
02:03:22,600 --> 02:03:25,120
Speaker 4: white kid drafted that came in and actually was the

2377
02:03:25,160 --> 02:03:26,680
Speaker 4: first overall pick in the draft for what are we

2378
02:03:26,800 --> 02:03:27,720
Speaker 4: talking about, Larry Bird?

2379
02:03:28,080 --> 02:03:28,240
Speaker 3: Right?

2380
02:03:28,400 --> 02:03:32,280
Speaker 4: So what I immediately thought of is most of the

2381
02:03:32,360 --> 02:03:34,240
Speaker 4: time Cooper would be one and done, and I'm sure

2382
02:03:34,280 --> 02:03:37,040
Speaker 4: he will be because he's so great. But if Duke

2383
02:03:37,120 --> 02:03:40,360
Speaker 4: really wants to keep him, they can, right. Like, the

2384
02:03:40,480 --> 02:03:42,880
Speaker 4: thing that really hits me every time I think about

2385
02:03:42,920 --> 02:03:45,720
Speaker 4: college basketball is if you're an Indiana fan and you're saying, man,

2386
02:03:45,760 --> 02:03:47,440
Speaker 4: I'm tired. I remember when we used to be great.

2387
02:03:47,800 --> 02:03:49,440
Speaker 4: You can be great now. You just got to have

2388
02:03:49,520 --> 02:03:51,440
Speaker 4: the money. You just got to be willing to put

2389
02:03:51,480 --> 02:03:53,600
Speaker 4: the money in to get the right kids to come in.

2390
02:03:53,680 --> 02:03:55,720
Speaker 4: And if you're willing to do that, you can turn

2391
02:03:55,760 --> 02:03:58,120
Speaker 4: your team around in two seconds. I think there's power

2392
02:03:58,240 --> 02:04:01,640
Speaker 4: to that end. Can you keep kids together longer? Honestly

2393
02:04:01,720 --> 02:04:04,120
Speaker 4: think there's a real shot for that. I know it

2394
02:04:04,200 --> 02:04:07,080
Speaker 4: sounds wild because everybody thinks, well, no, they're going to

2395
02:04:07,120 --> 02:04:09,280
Speaker 4: go get that NBA money. But if you're in that

2396
02:04:09,600 --> 02:04:11,880
Speaker 4: mid level where you just want to see guys grow together,

2397
02:04:12,240 --> 02:04:15,840
Speaker 4: grow together, that's gonna happen now all over. When we

2398
02:04:15,920 --> 02:04:17,560
Speaker 4: talk about college basketball.

2399
02:04:17,440 --> 02:04:21,240
Speaker 2: Well think about this two fig and FITZI, which is

2400
02:04:21,800 --> 02:04:24,560
Speaker 2: if you got a kid like you have to just

2401
02:04:24,640 --> 02:04:28,480
Speaker 2: say you're top five. Right, every year there's probably a

2402
02:04:28,720 --> 02:04:33,000
Speaker 2: couple of just great, great players. This year were none

2403
02:04:33,080 --> 02:04:37,440
Speaker 2: as far as like lock number ones. So say you

2404
02:04:37,520 --> 02:04:42,800
Speaker 2: had three lottery picks that were just elite, and we're

2405
02:04:42,840 --> 02:04:46,320
Speaker 2: going to grab the big NBA money. Well, there's a

2406
02:04:46,400 --> 02:04:49,840
Speaker 2: whole all the world outside of those three players that

2407
02:04:50,440 --> 02:04:54,040
Speaker 2: need help, that can show their skills. So go in

2408
02:04:54,680 --> 02:04:59,520
Speaker 2: anywhere from seven to twenty first in the draft. You

2409
02:04:59,600 --> 02:05:02,960
Speaker 2: can really improve your status. You're getting paid, so you're

2410
02:05:03,000 --> 02:05:06,760
Speaker 2: getting compensated, and your game is being worked on, and

2411
02:05:06,920 --> 02:05:09,520
Speaker 2: what you are at the end of year two or

2412
02:05:09,640 --> 02:05:14,640
Speaker 2: year three is a much different prospect that could.

2413
02:05:14,520 --> 02:05:16,120
Speaker 3: Be a lock top five.

2414
02:05:17,320 --> 02:05:20,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, it makes all the sense in the world at

2415
02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:23,480
Speaker 5: the ever changing landscape. Until By the way, another wrinkle

2416
02:05:23,520 --> 02:05:26,840
Speaker 5: to add to this is the impending NBA change to

2417
02:05:26,960 --> 02:05:29,360
Speaker 5: its rule where they're going to go back to allowing

2418
02:05:29,440 --> 02:05:31,880
Speaker 5: high school kids to declare as well. And I think

2419
02:05:31,920 --> 02:05:34,560
Speaker 5: that's ultimately going to be a good thing overall for

2420
02:05:34,640 --> 02:05:36,880
Speaker 5: the college basketball product as well, because you're going to

2421
02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:39,920
Speaker 5: have certain kids, like those studs that you're talking about,

2422
02:05:40,000 --> 02:05:42,480
Speaker 5: the one, two three in the draft, well, they're not

2423
02:05:42,560 --> 02:05:45,040
Speaker 5: gonna have to necessarily waste their time going for one

2424
02:05:45,160 --> 02:05:47,720
Speaker 5: year at all at a college or a university somewhere,

2425
02:05:48,080 --> 02:05:51,520
Speaker 5: knowing they can just enter and be immediately eligible and

2426
02:05:51,640 --> 02:05:53,360
Speaker 5: not have to worry about the dog and pony show

2427
02:05:53,400 --> 02:05:55,360
Speaker 5: that we're doing nowadays with a one and done. So

2428
02:05:55,520 --> 02:05:58,040
Speaker 5: kids that go to college actually want to go to college,

2429
02:05:58,080 --> 02:05:59,480
Speaker 5: and the kids that wanted to try their hand at

2430
02:05:59,480 --> 02:06:01,760
Speaker 5: the NBA will go there first. I think that in

2431
02:06:01,880 --> 02:06:04,840
Speaker 5: conjunction with what you're talking about, is all ultimately going

2432
02:06:04,920 --> 02:06:06,800
Speaker 5: to end up improving the college game overall.

2433
02:06:08,320 --> 02:06:11,880
Speaker 2: If you're getting paid, you're a high school kid, you

2434
02:06:11,920 --> 02:06:13,600
Speaker 2: know you're gonna get big money from a college.

2435
02:06:15,320 --> 02:06:16,560
Speaker 3: Why you even skip the step?

2436
02:06:19,240 --> 02:06:20,720
Speaker 5: Well, I guess it depends on how big the money

2437
02:06:20,760 --> 02:06:24,200
Speaker 5: we're talking Is that money number the cap the money

2438
02:06:24,680 --> 02:06:25,800
Speaker 5: is slotted in the NBA?

2439
02:06:26,120 --> 02:06:29,400
Speaker 6: Right, So you're saying, if you're a Lebron James.

2440
02:06:29,840 --> 02:06:34,160
Speaker 2: And is it fiscally better right for you to stay

2441
02:06:34,200 --> 02:06:37,000
Speaker 2: in college and get through college money where you can?

2442
02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:40,880
Speaker 4: The only temptation is it you're gonna see every kid

2443
02:06:41,040 --> 02:06:43,360
Speaker 4: wants to think that they can be the next I mean,

2444
02:06:43,440 --> 02:06:46,480
Speaker 4: how many medium level NBA guys that we've seen get

2445
02:06:46,560 --> 02:06:48,520
Speaker 4: gross level money in the last few months, you know?

2446
02:06:48,680 --> 02:06:51,480
Speaker 4: So I think the one thing is the temptation. If

2447
02:06:51,480 --> 02:06:52,920
Speaker 4: I could just get in the league an average four

2448
02:06:52,960 --> 02:06:54,720
Speaker 4: points game, I can still get one hundred and fifty

2449
02:06:54,720 --> 02:06:55,280
Speaker 4: million bucks.

2450
02:06:58,480 --> 02:07:00,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but remember you still to go through your rookie

2451
02:07:00,920 --> 02:07:05,120
Speaker 3: deal right right, the first couple of years. Right now,

2452
02:07:05,200 --> 02:07:07,040
Speaker 3: you're you're gonna get there quicker.

2453
02:07:07,240 --> 02:07:10,240
Speaker 2: But who's to say you'll get there when if I'm

2454
02:07:10,280 --> 02:07:16,880
Speaker 2: in college, I'm getting back. I'll take it back now,

2455
02:07:17,160 --> 02:07:23,120
Speaker 2: I mean, why why? And smartly I'm getting better while

2456
02:07:23,120 --> 02:07:23,640
Speaker 2: I'm doing that.

2457
02:07:24,960 --> 02:07:27,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's an element of that in there somewhere.

2458
02:07:27,520 --> 02:07:29,760
Speaker 5: And also there's I mean, I know there's nils and

2459
02:07:29,800 --> 02:07:33,000
Speaker 5: there's collectives, and you know, I use Lebron as an example,

2460
02:07:33,040 --> 02:07:35,040
Speaker 5: who had one hundred million dollars shoe deal with Nike

2461
02:07:35,120 --> 02:07:37,760
Speaker 5: before he even got drafted by Cleveland. I don't know

2462
02:07:37,800 --> 02:07:41,040
Speaker 5: if that's necessarily available unless you're part of a collective

2463
02:07:41,120 --> 02:07:42,680
Speaker 5: or what the parameters are going to be if you're

2464
02:07:42,680 --> 02:07:44,400
Speaker 5: a college kid in whether or not you can cut

2465
02:07:44,480 --> 02:07:48,240
Speaker 5: that similar that same deal. And ultimately, I think there's

2466
02:07:48,240 --> 02:07:49,880
Speaker 5: gonna end up being some sort of cap placed on

2467
02:07:49,960 --> 02:07:52,200
Speaker 5: this as well, because then we're just gonna have We

2468
02:07:52,280 --> 02:07:54,840
Speaker 5: already have the Wild West as it is, there's always

2469
02:07:54,880 --> 02:07:56,640
Speaker 5: been a have and have not for a multiple of

2470
02:07:56,720 --> 02:07:58,320
Speaker 5: different reasons. But if we're going to do all of

2471
02:07:58,400 --> 02:08:01,360
Speaker 5: this kids getting money and getting compensated and have it

2472
02:08:01,440 --> 02:08:04,480
Speaker 5: be above board, now you just wonder if they're just

2473
02:08:04,520 --> 02:08:06,320
Speaker 5: going to allow certain teams to be able who can

2474
02:08:06,440 --> 02:08:10,320
Speaker 5: print money, like Texas and Ohio State to be able

2475
02:08:10,400 --> 02:08:12,360
Speaker 5: to just run away with it without having any sort

2476
02:08:12,400 --> 02:08:14,400
Speaker 5: of regulation right now, I know that we don't.

2477
02:08:14,920 --> 02:08:17,320
Speaker 6: I just want to know what the end game ultimately.

2478
02:08:17,080 --> 02:08:17,680
Speaker 4: Is going to be there.

2479
02:08:19,600 --> 02:08:24,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, for that reason, Yeah, because then what's the stop

2480
02:08:24,760 --> 02:08:26,720
Speaker 5: duke or someone. I don't know if duke even as

2481
02:08:26,800 --> 02:08:28,680
Speaker 5: as successful as a basketball program is, I don't know

2482
02:08:28,680 --> 02:08:30,560
Speaker 5: if they have that sort of you know, money, but

2483
02:08:31,560 --> 02:08:34,200
Speaker 5: from just buying the best roster they possibly can every

2484
02:08:34,240 --> 02:08:35,840
Speaker 5: single year or every other year.

2485
02:08:36,840 --> 02:08:39,560
Speaker 4: Well, I really like right now, I don't have a

2486
02:08:39,600 --> 02:08:42,919
Speaker 4: problem with that, Like there are going to be examples

2487
02:08:42,960 --> 02:08:45,400
Speaker 4: where you could say that it becomes total domination and

2488
02:08:45,440 --> 02:08:48,080
Speaker 4: the sport becomes disinteresting. Well, I mean, how many people

2489
02:08:48,120 --> 02:08:50,960
Speaker 4: are already tuning into a February college basketball game anyway?

2490
02:08:50,960 --> 02:08:52,840
Speaker 4: Even though I love the sport, I don't know how

2491
02:08:52,880 --> 02:08:55,520
Speaker 4: many people do. And then, as I've said before, I

2492
02:08:55,600 --> 02:08:58,560
Speaker 4: love the idea of like UNLV hasn't been relevant, truly

2493
02:08:58,680 --> 02:09:01,360
Speaker 4: relevant in basketball since the nineties when they were buying

2494
02:09:01,400 --> 02:09:03,880
Speaker 4: players anyway, So now do it above board, right, like

2495
02:09:04,120 --> 02:09:06,360
Speaker 4: just to just get in there, Like if you want

2496
02:09:06,400 --> 02:09:09,480
Speaker 4: to have a if you're Belmont in Tennessee and you

2497
02:09:09,600 --> 02:09:11,560
Speaker 4: want to go out there and win a national championship.

2498
02:09:11,600 --> 02:09:13,400
Speaker 4: You probably can. You just got to raise the money.

2499
02:09:13,680 --> 02:09:16,280
Speaker 4: I don't mind that friend monster like do a bake sale.

2500
02:09:16,400 --> 02:09:18,280
Speaker 4: I don't care. If you want to have a prominent

2501
02:09:18,360 --> 02:09:21,080
Speaker 4: college basketball team, you can now do it. I love

2502
02:09:21,160 --> 02:09:22,400
Speaker 4: the empowerment that comes with that.

2503
02:09:23,280 --> 02:09:25,840
Speaker 5: And by the way, even with this and things are

2504
02:09:25,920 --> 02:09:28,920
Speaker 5: above board now, things will never be one hundred percent

2505
02:09:29,000 --> 02:09:31,520
Speaker 5: above board. There's there's always going to be someone cutting corners.

2506
02:09:31,520 --> 02:09:33,760
Speaker 5: There's always going to be the nil deal that the

2507
02:09:33,800 --> 02:09:36,880
Speaker 5: star quarterbacks signed for seventeen million dollars. They're going to

2508
02:09:36,920 --> 02:09:39,280
Speaker 5: give them an additional five or six under the table

2509
02:09:39,720 --> 02:09:41,320
Speaker 5: in some way, shape or form that no one finds

2510
02:09:41,360 --> 02:09:41,800
Speaker 5: out about.

2511
02:09:42,080 --> 02:09:43,880
Speaker 6: You know, that's always going to go on.

2512
02:09:45,440 --> 02:09:48,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, without a doubt.

2513
02:09:48,640 --> 02:09:53,840
Speaker 2: But you guys bring up with a fascinating point, which is, hey, now,

2514
02:09:53,880 --> 02:09:57,080
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you could be you could cruise

2515
02:09:57,120 --> 02:10:02,120
Speaker 2: start you could be a startup university and you depending

2516
02:10:02,160 --> 02:10:04,360
Speaker 2: how big you're, you're how much money you could raise

2517
02:10:05,120 --> 02:10:08,560
Speaker 2: and then strike for your vcs, you go in and

2518
02:10:08,840 --> 02:10:12,160
Speaker 2: you could build you know, fits University.

2519
02:10:12,400 --> 02:10:14,360
Speaker 3: Now, Fitzy University.

2520
02:10:14,680 --> 02:10:17,320
Speaker 2: Has got a lot of money behind it, well right,

2521
02:10:17,400 --> 02:10:19,760
Speaker 2: a lot of music money, and they're going to go

2522
02:10:19,880 --> 02:10:22,080
Speaker 2: in and buy the players and all of a sudden,

2523
02:10:22,720 --> 02:10:27,760
Speaker 2: fitzy university, it's going to be a powerhouse in college basketball.

2524
02:10:27,800 --> 02:10:29,640
Speaker 6: Well, look, they're not a startup by any means.

2525
02:10:29,680 --> 02:10:31,640
Speaker 5: They print money, but they have not been relevant in

2526
02:10:31,680 --> 02:10:34,120
Speaker 5: the sports landscape for a long period of time. But

2527
02:10:34,240 --> 02:10:36,360
Speaker 5: look at what SMU is doing right now. Yeah, I

2528
02:10:36,400 --> 02:10:39,000
Speaker 5: mean ball their way into the SEC or the ACC

2529
02:10:39,160 --> 02:10:41,720
Speaker 5: because they know that they have the amount of donors

2530
02:10:41,720 --> 02:10:43,680
Speaker 5: and boosters who are willing to just cut the check

2531
02:10:43,800 --> 02:10:46,840
Speaker 5: pay whatever is necessary. SMU within the next six years

2532
02:10:46,920 --> 02:10:49,360
Speaker 5: is going to be a factor in basketball. That's why

2533
02:10:49,360 --> 02:10:51,800
Speaker 5: they hired Andy infield and football, they are going to

2534
02:10:51,840 --> 02:10:55,040
Speaker 5: be relevant because they can write bigger checks than most others.

2535
02:10:55,080 --> 02:10:56,640
Speaker 6: Still, US schools can't in the nation.

2536
02:10:56,840 --> 02:11:01,680
Speaker 2: Too, and it hurt like those alum, then they're thirsty.

2537
02:11:01,880 --> 02:11:04,640
Speaker 6: Don't trust me? I know well, Eric Dickerson is a

2538
02:11:04,720 --> 02:11:05,600
Speaker 6: friend that don't trust me.

2539
02:11:05,640 --> 02:11:10,120
Speaker 3: I get it, do not know it, do not know it? Thirsty, baby,

2540
02:11:10,920 --> 02:11:14,880
Speaker 3: they're thirsty for it. The great Eric Tickersy is your friend.

2541
02:11:15,200 --> 02:11:17,440
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he does a show with us every single

2542
02:11:17,600 --> 02:11:20,680
Speaker 5: uh every Monday during the football season, and he's a

2543
02:11:21,240 --> 02:11:23,320
Speaker 5: towd in SMU and has been for years, and now

2544
02:11:23,360 --> 02:11:25,960
Speaker 5: they're just kind of coming out of you know, they're

2545
02:11:26,000 --> 02:11:29,120
Speaker 5: the Doldrums because everything has opened up and now they

2546
02:11:29,200 --> 02:11:29,800
Speaker 5: can use their.

2547
02:11:29,720 --> 02:11:30,720
Speaker 6: Money above board.

2548
02:11:31,040 --> 02:11:31,160
Speaker 4: Now.

2549
02:11:31,200 --> 02:11:34,000
Speaker 5: Granted it ended up costing him back in the day,

2550
02:11:35,200 --> 02:11:38,360
Speaker 5: but they are they are excited about what's going on

2551
02:11:38,520 --> 02:11:39,920
Speaker 5: down there because they are going to be one of

2552
02:11:39,920 --> 02:11:43,000
Speaker 5: the powerhouses in college football, college basketball, and any other

2553
02:11:43,040 --> 02:11:44,920
Speaker 5: sport that they want to be now that they have

2554
02:11:45,040 --> 02:11:47,040
Speaker 5: the ability to do whatever they want with all the

2555
02:11:47,080 --> 02:11:47,440
Speaker 5: money that.

2556
02:11:47,480 --> 02:11:52,040
Speaker 3: They have the Pony Express, right, Well, that's cool.

2557
02:11:52,680 --> 02:11:55,160
Speaker 2: Conversely, you may see a lot of a lot of

2558
02:11:55,240 --> 02:12:00,320
Speaker 2: schools start to drop football, Like so Temple Universe Maya

2559
02:12:00,320 --> 02:12:03,720
Speaker 2: alma mater has a new president and we're all waiting

2560
02:12:03,880 --> 02:12:08,600
Speaker 2: whether or not they're going to drop football because they

2561
02:12:08,720 --> 02:12:13,800
Speaker 2: haven't been relevant. It costs a ton and you know,

2562
02:12:14,080 --> 02:12:16,840
Speaker 2: other than a blip when Matt when Matty Rule was there,

2563
02:12:17,560 --> 02:12:21,680
Speaker 2: it's been a wasteland. So there's a good chance that

2564
02:12:22,000 --> 02:12:26,520
Speaker 2: Naked dump football. Meanwhile, the University of Delaware is going

2565
02:12:26,640 --> 02:12:29,680
Speaker 2: up to Division one. I remember Joe Flacco went there.

2566
02:12:31,280 --> 02:12:38,720
Speaker 2: They've had some get I mean like it's it's got

2567
02:12:39,080 --> 02:12:42,880
Speaker 2: a really good tradition and uh, it's now moving up

2568
02:12:42,920 --> 02:12:46,600
Speaker 2: to Division one. There's a whole Delaware initiative, a Delaware

2569
02:12:46,640 --> 02:12:50,960
Speaker 2: collective to help you know, you know, build that program.

2570
02:12:51,600 --> 02:12:54,240
Speaker 2: So I could see where Delaware, which is really close

2571
02:12:54,320 --> 02:13:00,480
Speaker 2: to Philadelphia, you know, neighboring state and Pa, where Delaware

2572
02:13:00,600 --> 02:13:05,560
Speaker 2: connects builds a builds a program and Temple deletes it.

2573
02:13:09,160 --> 02:13:11,600
Speaker 2: You would have to answer that question if you're an

2574
02:13:11,640 --> 02:13:13,440
Speaker 2: out of if you're in a university, you have the

2575
02:13:13,560 --> 02:13:19,760
Speaker 2: appetite to you know, throw your the ring when it comes.

2576
02:13:19,600 --> 02:13:21,360
Speaker 5: To football, because at a certain point, you say, like,

2577
02:13:21,400 --> 02:13:24,280
Speaker 5: what's the point where it's a losing proposition where look,

2578
02:13:24,520 --> 02:13:26,680
Speaker 5: if we haven't been good for a while, we're barely

2579
02:13:26,760 --> 02:13:29,120
Speaker 5: scraping by, we're not we're losing money. If we're making

2580
02:13:29,160 --> 02:13:30,880
Speaker 5: a little bit, maybe we're making a little but we're

2581
02:13:30,920 --> 02:13:33,640
Speaker 5: losing money and now we're gonna end up losing recruits.

2582
02:13:34,240 --> 02:13:36,880
Speaker 5: Nobody's would want to come here because because the places

2583
02:13:36,920 --> 02:13:39,520
Speaker 5: that can afford to give guys one thousand dollars a year,

2584
02:13:39,560 --> 02:13:45,440
Speaker 5: we can't even afford that, you know exactly, and how

2585
02:13:45,560 --> 02:13:45,880
Speaker 5: do you do?

2586
02:13:46,560 --> 02:13:49,520
Speaker 4: Like do you just because the question is do you

2587
02:13:49,640 --> 02:13:52,040
Speaker 4: end up with two different divisions in worlds of college

2588
02:13:52,080 --> 02:13:56,200
Speaker 4: football or do you just essentially completely drop the entire process.

2589
02:13:56,280 --> 02:13:57,880
Speaker 4: And then if you if you don't have a college

2590
02:13:57,920 --> 02:14:01,800
Speaker 4: football team at all, can you remain in the social lexicon? Like,

2591
02:14:01,880 --> 02:14:02,920
Speaker 4: I don't know the answer to that.

2592
02:14:05,200 --> 02:14:07,800
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, there are certain universities that don't have

2593
02:14:08,000 --> 02:14:10,200
Speaker 5: you know, football, I mean, Dayton don't have a football program,

2594
02:14:10,280 --> 02:14:12,440
Speaker 5: but they do fairly decent in basketball here and there,

2595
02:14:12,520 --> 02:14:14,640
Speaker 5: Like there's I mean, you drop your a profile.

2596
02:14:14,880 --> 02:14:16,880
Speaker 4: If you don't have one. People care about Dayton?

2597
02:14:17,040 --> 02:14:21,440
Speaker 5: Well, well, I mean, without no disrespect to you, Anthony,

2598
02:14:21,480 --> 02:14:23,320
Speaker 5: but there's not that many people nationwide they care about

2599
02:14:23,320 --> 02:14:24,240
Speaker 5: Temple one way or the other.

2600
02:14:24,320 --> 02:14:27,400
Speaker 6: Either I don't know if it or lowers their profile, whether.

2601
02:14:27,280 --> 02:14:29,000
Speaker 5: Football states or not, you know what I mean, if

2602
02:14:29,040 --> 02:14:32,280
Speaker 5: it's Ohio State or somebody, then sure, you know, it

2603
02:14:32,360 --> 02:14:33,680
Speaker 5: depends on the level of the program.

2604
02:14:36,280 --> 02:14:38,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of schools like yeah, I look

2605
02:14:38,280 --> 02:14:40,800
Speaker 2: at Villanova. They have a Division One team, but they

2606
02:14:40,800 --> 02:14:42,880
Speaker 2: have their big basketball powerhouse.

2607
02:14:43,720 --> 02:14:47,040
Speaker 3: Georgetown is the same way, right, Like you look at

2608
02:14:47,040 --> 02:14:47,680
Speaker 3: these things.

2609
02:14:47,920 --> 02:14:50,600
Speaker 2: And it's also a chance to choose do you go

2610
02:14:50,840 --> 02:14:54,840
Speaker 2: football or you go you know, all in on basketball.

2611
02:14:55,000 --> 02:14:58,360
Speaker 2: You're a basketball school, You're a Georgetown, what are you

2612
02:14:58,360 --> 02:15:00,640
Speaker 2: gonna do? You take her around with football?

2613
02:15:00,680 --> 02:15:02,520
Speaker 3: But you don't. You're not a Division one team.

2614
02:15:03,440 --> 02:15:06,000
Speaker 5: But even with that, does Georgetown even have the sort

2615
02:15:06,040 --> 02:15:08,280
Speaker 5: of we know that they're a basketball school, but do

2616
02:15:08,640 --> 02:15:12,160
Speaker 5: they have the money to compete from a recruiting standpoint

2617
02:15:12,200 --> 02:15:14,880
Speaker 5: when it comes to nil for yeah, even in basketball.

2618
02:15:15,800 --> 02:15:17,600
Speaker 2: I mean I wouldn't say yeah, I don't know. I

2619
02:15:17,680 --> 02:15:19,480
Speaker 2: just don't know what kind of financial backup. That's a

2620
02:15:19,600 --> 02:15:22,760
Speaker 2: prestigious school. It's a very well to do school. So

2621
02:15:23,600 --> 02:15:25,760
Speaker 2: in the middle of d C. Like, I got to

2622
02:15:25,840 --> 02:15:28,360
Speaker 2: believe that, I mean, you know, yeah, I mean you

2623
02:15:28,480 --> 02:15:30,120
Speaker 2: have to. They would get their support.

2624
02:15:30,120 --> 02:15:30,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, you would, hope.

2625
02:15:31,000 --> 02:15:33,440
Speaker 5: I mean, you have prestige, but that's also your academic

2626
02:15:33,560 --> 02:15:36,280
Speaker 5: or your prestige as Georgetown is different than the people

2627
02:15:36,320 --> 02:15:38,200
Speaker 5: that are willing to actually pump their money into the

2628
02:15:38,240 --> 02:15:40,000
Speaker 5: Georgetown basketball program.

2629
02:15:39,800 --> 02:15:40,280
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

2630
02:15:40,880 --> 02:15:41,880
Speaker 6: Those are two different things.

2631
02:15:42,680 --> 02:15:45,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I got to believe that, you know, maybe

2632
02:15:45,680 --> 02:15:48,680
Speaker 3: not to the extent that I say you the first right,

2633
02:15:48,800 --> 02:15:51,320
Speaker 3: they're they're about thirsty.

2634
02:15:51,680 --> 02:15:55,440
Speaker 6: They've always been tell me about it. Yes, yes, have been.

2635
02:15:56,000 --> 02:15:58,120
Speaker 2: And it's kind of what pit them right like it's

2636
02:15:58,400 --> 02:16:02,800
Speaker 2: and now everything's a or what was illegal then is

2637
02:16:03,000 --> 02:16:03,800
Speaker 2: legal now.

2638
02:16:05,160 --> 02:16:07,880
Speaker 3: Which is a common practice in this country.

2639
02:16:08,440 --> 02:16:10,400
Speaker 5: And no kidding, which, by the way, I'm glad that

2640
02:16:10,440 --> 02:16:12,240
Speaker 5: Regard Busch got his heisman back because of that whole

2641
02:16:12,280 --> 02:16:12,560
Speaker 5: thing too.

2642
02:16:14,400 --> 02:16:16,680
Speaker 4: It's one of the wild things that you know, vacated

2643
02:16:16,760 --> 02:16:19,000
Speaker 4: wins and death penalties given and all these things, and

2644
02:16:19,080 --> 02:16:21,400
Speaker 4: you look around and you're like, man, how do you

2645
02:16:21,480 --> 02:16:24,880
Speaker 4: apply today's standard to what you know? Because look, I

2646
02:16:24,960 --> 02:16:28,360
Speaker 4: realized that our standards and practices have changed, and I

2647
02:16:28,400 --> 02:16:30,560
Speaker 4: don't think that that's a bad thing. I also think

2648
02:16:30,640 --> 02:16:32,600
Speaker 4: that you knew the rules when you were breaking the rules,

2649
02:16:32,680 --> 02:16:35,400
Speaker 4: right like, and so that's a difficult thing. Like my

2650
02:16:35,440 --> 02:16:37,760
Speaker 4: brother serves seven years for possession with the intent to

2651
02:16:37,800 --> 02:16:40,120
Speaker 4: distribute on something that now he wouldn't be in jail for.

2652
02:16:40,440 --> 02:16:42,640
Speaker 4: It doesn't change the fact that when he was a

2653
02:16:42,760 --> 02:16:44,400
Speaker 4: kid and he did those things, he knew he was

2654
02:16:44,480 --> 02:16:47,600
Speaker 4: breaking the like, he specifically knew he was doing something

2655
02:16:47,879 --> 02:16:49,720
Speaker 4: that could wind him in jail and did it. So

2656
02:16:49,840 --> 02:16:52,800
Speaker 4: action has consequence. I'm very torn on all of that.

2657
02:16:53,120 --> 02:16:56,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it doesn't justify wrongdoing either. You can't point

2658
02:16:56,280 --> 02:16:58,080
Speaker 5: the finger. You can't be the spider man mean pointing

2659
02:16:58,080 --> 02:17:00,440
Speaker 5: at somebody else. But it's like, if I'd don't do that,

2660
02:17:00,520 --> 02:17:02,480
Speaker 5: I'm going to lose to that guy who's also doing it,

2661
02:17:02,840 --> 02:17:04,280
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Yeah, And that's kind of

2662
02:17:04,320 --> 02:17:05,800
Speaker 5: what college football had been for years.

2663
02:17:07,360 --> 02:17:07,920
Speaker 4: Very true.

2664
02:17:09,120 --> 02:17:13,120
Speaker 3: So well, let's put a bow on this thing, the fits.

2665
02:17:13,160 --> 02:17:16,840
Speaker 3: I'll start with you. Where does it end up and

2666
02:17:16,959 --> 02:17:19,240
Speaker 3: how long does it take for it to kind of

2667
02:17:19,360 --> 02:17:20,160
Speaker 3: fall into place.

2668
02:17:21,360 --> 02:17:23,560
Speaker 4: I think the only way that we get any sort

2669
02:17:23,560 --> 02:17:26,840
Speaker 4: of national rule that won't get beaten in court is

2670
02:17:26,879 --> 02:17:29,440
Speaker 4: if Congress steps in, and I don't think that's going

2671
02:17:29,480 --> 02:17:31,879
Speaker 4: to be a priority anytime soon. So I think we're

2672
02:17:31,920 --> 02:17:33,959
Speaker 4: living in the wild wild West for the next five years.

2673
02:17:34,600 --> 02:17:37,000
Speaker 4: But I also believe that you're going to end up

2674
02:17:37,040 --> 02:17:39,280
Speaker 4: with normalized spending. So what's going to happen at some

2675
02:17:39,400 --> 02:17:42,160
Speaker 4: point is the top ten to twelve teams in the country,

2676
02:17:42,400 --> 02:17:44,560
Speaker 4: who've always been the top ten to twelve teams, are

2677
02:17:44,600 --> 02:17:46,720
Speaker 4: going to continue to be the top ten to twelve teams,

2678
02:17:47,000 --> 02:17:49,360
Speaker 4: and everybody else is going to become the middle class.

2679
02:17:49,480 --> 02:17:51,680
Speaker 4: And when you're fighting in the middle class, everybody else

2680
02:17:51,800 --> 02:17:53,880
Speaker 4: is going to be Their talent's going to be taken.

2681
02:17:53,920 --> 02:17:56,200
Speaker 4: They're going to be taking talents from lower levels, and

2682
02:17:56,280 --> 02:17:57,880
Speaker 4: you're going to hope that you just have the type

2683
02:17:57,879 --> 02:18:00,240
Speaker 4: of year where it's your year and you pop off

2684
02:18:00,360 --> 02:18:02,120
Speaker 4: like it's your year and you made the playoffs, and

2685
02:18:02,520 --> 02:18:04,720
Speaker 4: that's gonna become a real expectation for a lot of

2686
02:18:04,760 --> 02:18:07,440
Speaker 4: these clubs, and then the rest of them are gonna

2687
02:18:07,440 --> 02:18:10,080
Speaker 4: have to deal with sort of understanding that it costs

2688
02:18:10,160 --> 02:18:11,520
Speaker 4: us much to run a football program.

2689
02:18:13,360 --> 02:18:16,040
Speaker 3: So, fig how does it play out for you?

2690
02:18:16,520 --> 02:18:18,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we end up having some sort of

2691
02:18:18,879 --> 02:18:20,960
Speaker 5: Maybe it's not they find a cute way to to

2692
02:18:21,040 --> 02:18:24,560
Speaker 5: skirt around calling them professionals, but somehow, some way they

2693
02:18:24,680 --> 02:18:26,720
Speaker 5: find a way to unionize this thing. They start putting

2694
02:18:26,720 --> 02:18:30,080
Speaker 5: in regulations around transfer saying if you're gonna basically, if

2695
02:18:30,120 --> 02:18:32,480
Speaker 5: you're recruiting someone and you sign a commitment with an

2696
02:18:32,600 --> 02:18:35,360
Speaker 5: NIL deal, you're under contract with that school for a

2697
02:18:35,400 --> 02:18:37,520
Speaker 5: certain amount of time and you can't leave, which in

2698
02:18:37,600 --> 02:18:40,280
Speaker 5: a sense is a contract. That's like you're a pro.

2699
02:18:40,840 --> 02:18:43,680
Speaker 5: But the idea of guys floating through the transporportal left

2700
02:18:43,680 --> 02:18:46,520
Speaker 5: and right, nil stuff gets caught up and the muck

2701
02:18:46,640 --> 02:18:49,000
Speaker 5: left and right. It's just it's a lot to have

2702
02:18:49,160 --> 02:18:50,360
Speaker 5: for a lot of people who have to deal with

2703
02:18:50,440 --> 02:18:53,240
Speaker 5: that think it'd be easier on everybody, maybe tough on

2704
02:18:53,360 --> 02:18:56,360
Speaker 5: some individual kids here and there, but from the NC

2705
02:18:56,480 --> 02:18:58,520
Speaker 5: double A if they're even going to be still involved

2706
02:18:58,520 --> 02:19:00,040
Speaker 5: in this thing where it's all said and done, and

2707
02:19:00,560 --> 02:19:03,240
Speaker 5: for the individual schools to just have some sort of

2708
02:19:03,320 --> 02:19:05,920
Speaker 5: regulations in place for how much you can pay these kids,

2709
02:19:05,959 --> 02:19:08,080
Speaker 5: how often these kids can actually move, and whether or

2710
02:19:08,120 --> 02:19:10,680
Speaker 5: not you're locking them into a binding contract where they

2711
02:19:10,720 --> 02:19:14,560
Speaker 5: will still get paid. But also they can't just opt

2712
02:19:14,600 --> 02:19:16,440
Speaker 5: out of it and move on whenever they want to

2713
02:19:16,560 --> 02:19:19,480
Speaker 5: out their whim and to the detriment of the school too.

2714
02:19:20,360 --> 02:19:21,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's the only thing.

2715
02:19:21,800 --> 02:19:24,800
Speaker 2: When you lose a player, and you know, Alabamacommas approaches

2716
02:19:24,879 --> 02:19:28,200
Speaker 2: my roster, I'm gonna be like, forget just to buy out.

2717
02:19:28,280 --> 02:19:29,640
Speaker 3: I want some sort of compensation.

2718
02:19:29,760 --> 02:19:32,400
Speaker 6: You get nothing for it, just this guy leaves. Yeah,

2719
02:19:32,520 --> 02:19:33,160
Speaker 6: hell is that fair?

2720
02:19:34,120 --> 02:19:36,160
Speaker 4: Are we getting in it? Betrays in college football?

2721
02:19:36,840 --> 02:19:38,040
Speaker 6: I mean, boy, look we might.

2722
02:19:38,640 --> 02:19:39,280
Speaker 3: I could see it.

2723
02:19:40,560 --> 02:19:44,440
Speaker 2: I'll trade your basketball player and a tennis player all

2724
02:19:44,520 --> 02:19:48,200
Speaker 2: right for your left tackle plus five hundred thousand.

2725
02:19:48,800 --> 02:19:54,160
Speaker 3: How about that? Where the Fellas a New World Baby,

2726
02:19:55,120 --> 02:19:57,480
Speaker 3: New World The Fellas.

2727
02:19:57,840 --> 02:19:59,960
Speaker 2: Jason fitz Kevin figures anything or I got a right

2728
02:20:00,120 --> 02:20:06,760
Speaker 2: here Fox Sports Saturday, fellas Chason fits.

2729
02:20:08,600 --> 02:20:09,080
Speaker 3: That's right.

2730
02:20:11,480 --> 02:20:15,960
Speaker 2: I'm Anthony Gargano in the Great Kevin Figures FIGI. That's

2731
02:20:16,000 --> 02:20:20,119
Speaker 2: the crew now joining us to take a look at

2732
02:20:20,480 --> 02:20:25,480
Speaker 2: sports from a betting standpoint. Let's talk to our man,

2733
02:20:25,640 --> 02:20:32,680
Speaker 2: the Brain, the Great Brad Feinberg. Hello Brain, Good morning.

2734
02:20:33,040 --> 02:20:33,960
Speaker 12: Good morning, my friend.

2735
02:20:34,040 --> 02:20:35,960
Speaker 3: How you guys doing today? We're good.

2736
02:20:36,040 --> 02:20:39,960
Speaker 2: We're in a big time college football discussion.

2737
02:20:40,600 --> 02:20:43,640
Speaker 3: Do you know we were just talking about SMU. With

2738
02:20:44,040 --> 02:20:47,080
Speaker 3: SMU and then number forty two have in common.

2739
02:20:50,360 --> 02:20:53,160
Speaker 12: Jeez, talk to me, what do we got?

2740
02:20:53,280 --> 02:20:57,920
Speaker 2: They will be playing forty two days from today the

2741
02:20:58,240 --> 02:21:05,400
Speaker 2: first there's college football game, all right? It is SMU Nevada,

2742
02:21:06,320 --> 02:21:10,400
Speaker 2: Florida State, Georgia Tech of course from Ireland. It'll be

2743
02:21:10,600 --> 02:21:15,360
Speaker 2: a uh, it'll be college football Saturday, August twenty fourth,

2744
02:21:15,920 --> 02:21:18,000
Speaker 2: and that's just a mere forty two days away.

2745
02:21:18,800 --> 02:21:20,959
Speaker 12: Yeah, I can't wait again. It should be It should

2746
02:21:20,959 --> 02:21:24,600
Speaker 12: be incredible me. And it's when football starts. It seems

2747
02:21:24,680 --> 02:21:27,080
Speaker 12: like that's, you know, the world is starting again.

2748
02:21:28,040 --> 02:21:30,640
Speaker 3: What's your what's your? And I'll get it started.

2749
02:21:32,120 --> 02:21:35,080
Speaker 2: Give me some of your college football you know, futures

2750
02:21:35,200 --> 02:21:37,640
Speaker 2: or are you looking at did you bet any games yet?

2751
02:21:38,720 --> 02:21:41,160
Speaker 12: I mean I haven't. It's funny if they have not

2752
02:21:41,600 --> 02:21:44,320
Speaker 12: delved as much into college football as I shouldn't have

2753
02:21:44,520 --> 02:21:46,760
Speaker 12: at this point, I will be honest. I've just been

2754
02:21:47,360 --> 02:21:52,480
Speaker 12: so just so wrapped up in the NBA when that

2755
02:21:52,720 --> 02:21:55,920
Speaker 12: was going on, and so immersed every single day in baseball.

2756
02:21:56,320 --> 02:21:59,320
Speaker 12: I'm like a slave to it. So I haven't been

2757
02:21:59,400 --> 02:22:02,400
Speaker 12: put in. I'm mean I have like my power rankings

2758
02:22:02,680 --> 02:22:05,840
Speaker 12: in place for this year. I can tell you I

2759
02:22:05,959 --> 02:22:09,800
Speaker 12: do have Georgia ranked one, and I have Ohio State two. Uh,

2760
02:22:10,000 --> 02:22:12,320
Speaker 12: and I have Oregon three. I can tell you that

2761
02:22:12,520 --> 02:22:14,440
Speaker 12: like those are the.

2762
02:22:14,520 --> 02:22:16,800
Speaker 3: Team give us, give us your Do you have your

2763
02:22:16,840 --> 02:22:18,560
Speaker 3: top ten? Yeah?

2764
02:22:18,800 --> 02:22:21,080
Speaker 12: Yeah, I have. I have Ohio. I'm sorry, I have

2765
02:22:21,080 --> 02:22:23,160
Speaker 12: Ohio State two, Oregon three.

2766
02:22:23,800 --> 02:22:23,920
Speaker 4: Uh.

2767
02:22:24,120 --> 02:22:28,960
Speaker 12: I actually have ole Miss four? Uh five? Yeah, I

2768
02:22:29,000 --> 02:22:31,840
Speaker 12: have ole Miss pretty high this year. I really do. Uh,

2769
02:22:32,400 --> 02:22:37,280
Speaker 12: Texas five, Notre Dame six ten, Stage seven, Alabama eight,

2770
02:22:38,280 --> 02:22:40,000
Speaker 12: Oklahoma nine, and l.

2771
02:22:40,080 --> 02:22:43,160
Speaker 3: S U ten. Wow.

2772
02:22:44,600 --> 02:22:45,600
Speaker 4: So what is it about?

2773
02:22:46,040 --> 02:22:47,000
Speaker 3: How about that? Yeah?

2774
02:22:48,200 --> 02:22:50,520
Speaker 12: Well, I mean all this was I mean last year.

2775
02:22:50,560 --> 02:22:52,760
Speaker 12: I mean, first of all, Miss, have the rankings come

2776
02:22:52,840 --> 02:22:59,040
Speaker 12: out in terms of uh, like the these like the

2777
02:22:59,680 --> 02:23:04,640
Speaker 12: guy the Yeah, has that come out? Yeah, because I

2778
02:23:04,720 --> 02:23:07,200
Speaker 12: would have to think. I mean, look, they have a

2779
02:23:07,520 --> 02:23:11,720
Speaker 12: tremendous you know, quarterback. I mean like they're they're I

2780
02:23:11,800 --> 02:23:15,440
Speaker 12: mean Jackson Dart to me is I mean, Carson Beck's

2781
02:23:15,440 --> 02:23:17,440
Speaker 12: gonna be great for Georgia. But I think Jackson Dart

2782
02:23:18,080 --> 02:23:23,520
Speaker 12: is one of the the the best players in the sport.

2783
02:23:24,080 --> 02:23:27,160
Speaker 12: I really really do. And I again, I think that

2784
02:23:27,240 --> 02:23:29,800
Speaker 12: they have a really really good team er. I think

2785
02:23:29,879 --> 02:23:32,840
Speaker 12: Leam Tiffin is, you know, and it's a shame about

2786
02:23:32,840 --> 02:23:37,160
Speaker 12: his father passing away. Yeah, I mean you talk about

2787
02:23:37,160 --> 02:23:41,360
Speaker 12: like I'm true like coach, Yeah, I mean like that. Uh,

2788
02:23:41,560 --> 02:23:45,760
Speaker 12: And it's interesting. Well, they they to me just have

2789
02:23:46,480 --> 02:23:48,960
Speaker 12: when I when I look at when I look at

2790
02:23:49,240 --> 02:23:53,040
Speaker 12: their their their team. I mean, you know, they have

2791
02:23:53,160 --> 02:23:55,520
Speaker 12: a great transfer class, which is going to help them

2792
02:23:55,520 --> 02:24:00,800
Speaker 12: a lot. They actually got ranked in from what I understand,

2793
02:24:01,520 --> 02:24:04,440
Speaker 12: they have the number one transfer class, which obviously is

2794
02:24:04,560 --> 02:24:07,800
Speaker 12: going to be huge for them. Now schedule wise, they

2795
02:24:07,840 --> 02:24:10,720
Speaker 12: have at LSU, which right now they're a two and

2796
02:24:10,760 --> 02:24:13,400
Speaker 12: a half point underdog in that game, so you know

2797
02:24:14,080 --> 02:24:16,640
Speaker 12: that's gonna be obviously a tough game for them. But

2798
02:24:17,040 --> 02:24:20,440
Speaker 12: outside of that, I'm looking at their schedule outside of

2799
02:24:20,480 --> 02:24:23,880
Speaker 12: that that game where they're you know, at two and

2800
02:24:23,920 --> 02:24:26,280
Speaker 12: a half point underdog, they're favorite in every other game.

2801
02:24:27,840 --> 02:24:30,960
Speaker 12: You know, they have Fermon obviously it's a walkthrough. They

2802
02:24:31,040 --> 02:24:36,560
Speaker 12: have Middle Tasee state of walk through at Wake four, walkthrough, Georgia,

2803
02:24:36,640 --> 02:24:39,400
Speaker 12: Southern walkthrough. Kentucky at home, should be an easy win

2804
02:24:39,879 --> 02:24:43,960
Speaker 12: at South Carolina, should be a win at LSU. Okay,

2805
02:24:44,080 --> 02:24:46,960
Speaker 12: Oklahoma at home may be tough, but they should. I

2806
02:24:47,040 --> 02:24:49,440
Speaker 12: mean I have them as about a six point favorite

2807
02:24:49,440 --> 02:24:54,280
Speaker 12: there at Arkansas. It is obviously going to be a

2808
02:24:54,360 --> 02:24:56,240
Speaker 12: game they should win. Okay, I'm sorry they'd want a

2809
02:24:56,280 --> 02:24:57,959
Speaker 12: top one the Georgia game, but you know what, they

2810
02:24:58,000 --> 02:24:58,840
Speaker 12: have Georgia at home.

2811
02:25:00,040 --> 02:25:02,360
Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, they got and I forgot, they

2812
02:25:02,440 --> 02:25:06,840
Speaker 2: got Henry Parrish to run the ball. Who was at

2813
02:25:06,920 --> 02:25:10,280
Speaker 2: Miami didn't have a line like that. That was a good,

2814
02:25:10,640 --> 02:25:13,960
Speaker 2: good pick up. By the way, ESPN did its ranking

2815
02:25:14,360 --> 02:25:18,880
Speaker 2: UH spring ranking and Old Miss is number six.

2816
02:25:20,440 --> 02:25:22,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yeah, they're in your ballpark.

2817
02:25:22,520 --> 02:25:29,400
Speaker 2: They go Georgia, Ohio, State, Texas, Oregon, Notre Dame, UH

2818
02:25:29,720 --> 02:25:36,720
Speaker 2: then Old Miss, then Alabama, Missouri eight, Utah nine, Michigan ten.

2819
02:25:37,959 --> 02:25:39,520
Speaker 12: Yeah, what's interesting? I got to tell you, what's an

2820
02:25:39,560 --> 02:25:41,160
Speaker 12: interest in me miss year that I don't think I've

2821
02:25:41,200 --> 02:25:47,680
Speaker 12: seen Heisman Trophy race. It's it's open, so to speak. Yeah,

2822
02:25:48,400 --> 02:25:51,720
Speaker 12: there's really not. They're not one guy that stands out

2823
02:25:51,760 --> 02:25:54,760
Speaker 12: as a massive, massive favor like there have been in

2824
02:25:54,840 --> 02:25:55,480
Speaker 12: the year's halt.

2825
02:25:58,640 --> 02:26:01,600
Speaker 4: It's it's just interesting to me because it's so hard

2826
02:26:01,640 --> 02:26:03,720
Speaker 4: to project all of these things. But it speaks to

2827
02:26:04,400 --> 02:26:06,480
Speaker 4: when you rank your teams the way you do, it

2828
02:26:06,520 --> 02:26:09,520
Speaker 4: speaks to why Alabama may not have been the coveted job.

2829
02:26:09,600 --> 02:26:11,760
Speaker 4: So many of us think, like hard to replace the

2830
02:26:11,879 --> 02:26:15,880
Speaker 4: legend obviously Delane Kiffin, and you're looking at it and saying, man,

2831
02:26:16,000 --> 02:26:18,080
Speaker 4: got it. I got a team that you've got power

2832
02:26:18,160 --> 02:26:21,080
Speaker 4: ranked high that ESPN after spring had at six, which

2833
02:26:21,160 --> 02:26:23,880
Speaker 4: is higher than Alabama. Both of you have his existing

2834
02:26:23,959 --> 02:26:26,240
Speaker 4: team higher than Alabama. I think it's a little bit

2835
02:26:26,240 --> 02:26:28,760
Speaker 4: of the context we forgot about the conversation at the time.

2836
02:26:29,240 --> 02:26:31,240
Speaker 4: Right for Lane, it's like we got to go to Bama,

2837
02:26:31,320 --> 02:26:33,760
Speaker 4: do you like, do you really want to replace Saban?

2838
02:26:33,840 --> 02:26:36,280
Speaker 4: And also you might have a better situation where you are.

2839
02:26:37,320 --> 02:26:41,520
Speaker 12: Well, it's so again what Alabama did and Georgia is

2840
02:26:41,600 --> 02:26:45,320
Speaker 12: kind of doing now it's so hard just to keep

2841
02:26:46,080 --> 02:26:48,800
Speaker 12: dominating at that level with all that pressure, you know

2842
02:26:48,840 --> 02:26:50,920
Speaker 12: what I'm saying. And now I think it's even become

2843
02:26:51,000 --> 02:26:54,480
Speaker 12: harder with everything, with the transfer portal and everything. It

2844
02:26:54,600 --> 02:26:57,480
Speaker 12: is so hard, the pressure that the code Saban must

2845
02:26:57,520 --> 02:27:00,720
Speaker 12: have sold to continue just always to have this top

2846
02:27:00,800 --> 02:27:05,560
Speaker 12: three recruiting class. It's just it's it's really really difficult.

2847
02:27:05,920 --> 02:27:09,240
Speaker 12: And yeah, I would I would say that replacing that

2848
02:27:09,680 --> 02:27:12,480
Speaker 12: and expecting anyone to do that same kind of job,

2849
02:27:12,600 --> 02:27:17,560
Speaker 12: to me is almost is almost impossible. I really believe that.

2850
02:27:17,800 --> 02:27:20,840
Speaker 12: I mean, I really think it's it's really really extremely

2851
02:27:20,879 --> 02:27:24,480
Speaker 12: difficult to do that. But uh, you know, we'llook, we'll see,

2852
02:27:24,600 --> 02:27:27,200
Speaker 12: we'll see what's what. But I like it's I mean,

2853
02:27:27,280 --> 02:27:30,240
Speaker 12: this year Alabama strength to schedule, I have ranked fifth

2854
02:27:30,640 --> 02:27:33,640
Speaker 12: and all this was like twenty fifth. That's a huge difference.

2855
02:27:34,560 --> 02:27:37,480
Speaker 12: You know, that's a huge difference. So we'll, you know,

2856
02:27:37,560 --> 02:27:40,240
Speaker 12: we'll see, but I mean, we'll see, we'll see what happens.

2857
02:27:41,080 --> 02:27:43,520
Speaker 2: Hey, we were talking about this earlier, and you're a

2858
02:27:43,560 --> 02:27:47,760
Speaker 2: big baseball guy, and we were talking about the idea

2859
02:27:48,040 --> 02:27:50,599
Speaker 2: of schemes getting pulled.

2860
02:27:52,879 --> 02:27:56,879
Speaker 3: And the whole thing and missing out on the moments.

2861
02:27:58,360 --> 02:28:04,720
Speaker 2: Is we talk about being way too championship centric and

2862
02:28:04,920 --> 02:28:08,600
Speaker 2: not enjoying like the true moments of the regular season.

2863
02:28:09,400 --> 02:28:12,440
Speaker 2: And we understand health and imperiling players and the whole thing,

2864
02:28:12,560 --> 02:28:16,360
Speaker 2: but to go for the no hitter, which is should

2865
02:28:16,480 --> 02:28:21,599
Speaker 2: be the moment of that it matters. Are we devaluing

2866
02:28:21,760 --> 02:28:24,920
Speaker 2: this in baseball to its detriment?

2867
02:28:26,440 --> 02:28:30,560
Speaker 12: Well, I mean, look, Anthony, we are just a thing.

2868
02:28:31,120 --> 02:28:34,199
Speaker 12: I mean, and I know, I mean, you breed a touxtallments.

2869
02:28:34,760 --> 02:28:38,480
Speaker 12: It's like, we live in a world now where if

2870
02:28:38,560 --> 02:28:41,440
Speaker 12: you just left schemes in there, and even though there

2871
02:28:41,560 --> 02:28:45,200
Speaker 12: probably would be zero's scientific evidence to suggest otherwise, if

2872
02:28:45,240 --> 02:28:47,760
Speaker 12: you left them in there, let's say two weeks later,

2873
02:28:48,400 --> 02:28:51,960
Speaker 12: his shoulder starts bothering him, or even a monthly, and oh,

2874
02:28:52,720 --> 02:28:54,959
Speaker 12: the media would say they left him in the pitch

2875
02:28:55,280 --> 02:28:58,800
Speaker 12: an extra seventeen pitches or twenty two pitches. Oh my god,

2876
02:28:58,840 --> 02:29:03,280
Speaker 12: they ruined this young man's and the general manager. The

2877
02:29:03,400 --> 02:29:06,320
Speaker 12: manager would be in deep peril, in my opinion, of

2878
02:29:06,440 --> 02:29:11,160
Speaker 12: losing their job. And that's ownership, and that's ownership. Really said,

2879
02:29:11,200 --> 02:29:14,160
Speaker 12: you know what, where's the data to show that when

2880
02:29:14,280 --> 02:29:17,400
Speaker 12: guys like Nolan Ryan used to pitch in the nineteen

2881
02:29:17,520 --> 02:29:20,080
Speaker 12: seventies and eighties they would throw three here, even O

2882
02:29:20,240 --> 02:29:23,120
Speaker 12: Ryan with the three fifty innings, okay, never would go

2883
02:29:23,160 --> 02:29:26,560
Speaker 12: in the DL. Like the arm injuries, It's like, you know,

2884
02:29:27,280 --> 02:29:29,800
Speaker 12: there used to be four man staffs. The Oakland As

2885
02:29:29,800 --> 02:29:32,800
Speaker 12: would have guy a four man staff, the guys pitching

2886
02:29:32,920 --> 02:29:36,360
Speaker 12: forty some starts a year, you know, like, and I

2887
02:29:36,400 --> 02:29:39,640
Speaker 12: would love to see the data is showing where there

2888
02:29:39,760 --> 02:29:43,200
Speaker 12: was way less injuries back when I was going up

2889
02:29:43,360 --> 02:29:46,680
Speaker 12: than there are now. And again, I didn't seen any

2890
02:29:46,760 --> 02:29:50,400
Speaker 12: data to suggests that throwing extra pitches is dangerous for

2891
02:29:50,520 --> 02:29:54,000
Speaker 12: you or whatnot. It's like, let me ask you a question.

2892
02:29:54,040 --> 02:29:58,320
Speaker 12: When you're swinging, like at the practice range the golf swings,

2893
02:29:58,400 --> 02:30:00,960
Speaker 12: I mean you, I mean that you more have to

2894
02:30:01,000 --> 02:30:04,840
Speaker 12: get injured. I just I'm just saying, right, I think

2895
02:30:04,840 --> 02:30:07,680
Speaker 12: it's a problem with the self fulfilling prophecy where everyone

2896
02:30:07,840 --> 02:30:10,760
Speaker 12: just assumes you can't do it. But I'm going any

2897
02:30:10,840 --> 02:30:12,640
Speaker 12: data suggesting it's actually accurate.

2898
02:30:13,480 --> 02:30:17,840
Speaker 4: How impossible does it make it at times to bet

2899
02:30:17,920 --> 02:30:20,600
Speaker 4: on all of this when you can't necessarily anticipate, like

2900
02:30:20,640 --> 02:30:22,360
Speaker 4: the pitcher can be having a game of his life

2901
02:30:22,400 --> 02:30:23,920
Speaker 4: and you just don't know if he's going to get pulled.

2902
02:30:24,640 --> 02:30:27,840
Speaker 12: Well, well, well listen, I mean it's somewhat easier in

2903
02:30:27,920 --> 02:30:30,480
Speaker 12: that in that actually did you say that because you

2904
02:30:30,600 --> 02:30:34,880
Speaker 12: more or less know one hundred is an artificial number

2905
02:30:35,000 --> 02:30:37,879
Speaker 12: where these guys just don't co past it, even though

2906
02:30:38,160 --> 02:30:40,879
Speaker 12: again I remember it even doesn't born that it would

2907
02:30:40,879 --> 02:30:43,160
Speaker 12: go one hundred and twenty five pitches. Now, those days

2908
02:30:43,200 --> 02:30:45,840
Speaker 12: are like, you know, it's like people look at you

2909
02:30:45,920 --> 02:30:48,119
Speaker 12: like you have four eye dolls if you say, leave

2910
02:30:48,120 --> 02:30:49,680
Speaker 12: the guy in f one hundred and twenty five pitches,

2911
02:30:50,120 --> 02:30:53,120
Speaker 12: So you more or less know when the guy's going

2912
02:30:53,200 --> 02:30:55,520
Speaker 12: to be pulled, and you aren't. Let's know how many

2913
02:30:55,560 --> 02:30:57,880
Speaker 12: pitches he can throw, And it's just you just have

2914
02:30:57,959 --> 02:31:01,720
Speaker 12: to work your handicap around that that look and there

2915
02:31:01,760 --> 02:31:03,840
Speaker 12: is dad. I will say this one thing I will say,

2916
02:31:03,879 --> 02:31:07,840
Speaker 12: there is dad is showing that once the third time

2917
02:31:07,879 --> 02:31:12,279
Speaker 12: around in the order most pictures successful isshoes starting pictures

2918
02:31:12,360 --> 02:31:15,920
Speaker 12: guys does go down. So that part of it I

2919
02:31:16,040 --> 02:31:18,960
Speaker 12: do think has validity to it. But in a situation

2920
02:31:19,160 --> 02:31:22,200
Speaker 12: like Paul Schemes, I who has no hit stuff, so

2921
02:31:22,280 --> 02:31:24,960
Speaker 12: it was you know, it's I don't care what picture

2922
02:31:24,959 --> 02:31:28,200
Speaker 12: they're bringing in. I guarantee you you know he's doing

2923
02:31:28,240 --> 02:31:30,160
Speaker 12: the other he's doing the opponent of favor when they

2924
02:31:30,200 --> 02:31:30,760
Speaker 12: take him out.

2925
02:31:32,200 --> 02:31:36,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, totally. What he got for is today? Anything

2926
02:31:36,840 --> 02:31:37,800
Speaker 3: over today? Yeah?

2927
02:31:37,920 --> 02:31:39,720
Speaker 12: I got, I got, I got a bunch of stuff

2928
02:31:39,760 --> 02:31:46,039
Speaker 12: with me. Loco. Start off with Jose Barriers, Toronto blue

2929
02:31:46,120 --> 02:31:49,360
Speaker 12: Jay starter is an innings eater fourteen and five to

2930
02:31:49,520 --> 02:31:52,360
Speaker 12: over seventeen and a half outs this year, nineteen and

2931
02:31:52,480 --> 02:31:54,320
Speaker 12: ten last year, so he was thirty three and fifteen

2932
02:31:54,320 --> 02:31:56,600
Speaker 12: at last forty eight. You had to lay about a

2933
02:31:56,680 --> 02:32:00,160
Speaker 12: dollar thirty over seventeen and a half outs. I think

2934
02:32:00,160 --> 02:32:03,480
Speaker 12: he gets his eighteen out to six innings fixed. Mitchell Parker,

2935
02:32:04,000 --> 02:32:08,000
Speaker 12: Washington Nationals pitching ming well recently. He's done for sixteen

2936
02:32:08,000 --> 02:32:10,200
Speaker 12: and a half outs eight of his last ten games.

2937
02:32:10,400 --> 02:32:12,080
Speaker 12: He's just in pitching well in general.

2938
02:32:12,440 --> 02:32:12,960
Speaker 3: I like that.

2939
02:32:14,120 --> 02:32:18,360
Speaker 12: I love Nadiavaldi and the Texas Rangers in the five

2940
02:32:18,400 --> 02:32:23,600
Speaker 12: inning line over the Houston Astrus and Aragetty. You've always

2941
02:32:23,640 --> 02:32:27,720
Speaker 12: been like a stud, legit terrific all year. Araghetty's been

2942
02:32:27,760 --> 02:32:30,480
Speaker 12: a Gascan. Rather do the five inning line because if

2943
02:32:30,520 --> 02:32:32,959
Speaker 12: the game is tied after five innings, I wrote, heavity

2944
02:32:33,000 --> 02:32:37,400
Speaker 12: interest Houston has the deeper, better bullpen, and I would

2945
02:32:37,520 --> 02:32:39,800
Speaker 12: want out of that game. But for five innings I

2946
02:32:40,200 --> 02:32:41,840
Speaker 12: only laid at dollar ten in the overnight line. He

2947
02:32:41,879 --> 02:32:45,320
Speaker 12: could still lay a dollar fifteen at some certain shops. Guys,

2948
02:32:45,720 --> 02:32:47,800
Speaker 12: I think it should be at least minus one fifty.

2949
02:32:47,920 --> 02:32:50,640
Speaker 12: My numbers are way different than what the market is.

2950
02:32:51,200 --> 02:32:53,039
Speaker 12: I really like the Raiders in the five inning line.

2951
02:32:54,000 --> 02:32:57,600
Speaker 12: I bet under five in Seth Lugo versus Parder Crawford.

2952
02:32:57,760 --> 02:33:01,360
Speaker 12: Seph Lulu has been absolutely sensational year. Cutter Crawford's been

2953
02:33:01,400 --> 02:33:03,920
Speaker 12: really good. Do not think they'll be six run scored there?

2954
02:33:04,840 --> 02:33:07,720
Speaker 12: Cutter Crawford under eighteen and a half outs fifteen and

2955
02:33:07,800 --> 02:33:10,959
Speaker 12: three this year, so hard to get nineteen outs. They'll

2956
02:33:11,000 --> 02:33:13,600
Speaker 12: take Cutter Crawford out after seventy eight pitches seventy five

2957
02:33:13,640 --> 02:33:16,280
Speaker 12: bitches after six innings, not because he can't go it,

2958
02:33:16,360 --> 02:33:18,880
Speaker 12: but again the data says that third time through the

2959
02:33:18,959 --> 02:33:22,240
Speaker 12: lineup these matches is very very leery of doing it.

2960
02:33:22,560 --> 02:33:24,840
Speaker 12: Fifteen and three. The data is terrific. That'll give you

2961
02:33:24,920 --> 02:33:28,560
Speaker 12: one more rock. Renaudo Lopez Alanta Braves under five and

2962
02:33:28,600 --> 02:33:31,119
Speaker 12: a half minutes twelve and four this year going instant,

2963
02:33:31,400 --> 02:33:35,240
Speaker 12: very pedestrian. Podrey's team plus a good stadium, and that's Santego.

2964
02:33:35,320 --> 02:33:37,320
Speaker 12: Pitch it in for a pitcher. I like him to

2965
02:33:37,320 --> 02:33:39,040
Speaker 12: give up under his five math hits and they say

2966
02:33:39,120 --> 02:33:41,680
Speaker 12: twelve before this year. Doesn't usually pitch upon of innings.

2967
02:33:41,840 --> 02:33:44,320
Speaker 12: He never goes back to six innings either. So those

2968
02:33:44,320 --> 02:33:45,720
Speaker 12: are some best that I think they're pretty good today.

2969
02:33:46,160 --> 02:33:49,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, sounds great, buddy, as always at Brad's Best Bets

2970
02:33:50,280 --> 02:33:54,680
Speaker 3: on X at Brad'sbeest Bets dot Com, check him out.

2971
02:33:54,720 --> 02:33:56,440
Speaker 3: He's the best. Thanks brother, We appreciate it.

2972
02:33:56,680 --> 02:33:58,400
Speaker 12: Thank you, Bro, appreciate you guys. I'll beat you guys

2973
02:33:58,440 --> 02:33:58,840
Speaker 12: next week.

2974
02:33:59,520 --> 02:34:03,920
Speaker 3: He is brain during his preseason rankings. How about that, Fitzy,

2975
02:34:03,959 --> 02:34:05,280
Speaker 3: he's got his rankings going.

2976
02:34:05,959 --> 02:34:08,080
Speaker 4: Hey, miss opened my eyes with old miss.

2977
02:34:08,280 --> 02:34:10,600
Speaker 3: Let's go yeah, fired up?

2978
02:34:11,120 --> 02:34:14,400
Speaker 2: All right, fellas, man, I can't believe it's already one

2979
02:34:14,520 --> 02:34:17,840
Speaker 2: more secment to hang We'll do it next fellas on.

2980
02:34:18,120 --> 02:34:36,000
Speaker 3: Fox whoa yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Fellas Jackson.

2981
02:34:38,520 --> 02:34:43,840
Speaker 2: Kevin figures as we hang out on Anthony Gargan from

2982
02:34:43,879 --> 02:34:48,400
Speaker 2: the Tireck dot Com studios. Don't forget podcasting, miss DD

2983
02:34:48,440 --> 02:34:51,560
Speaker 2: of the show. Just search Fox Sports Radio. Wherever you

2984
02:34:51,640 --> 02:34:53,680
Speaker 2: get your podcasts boom, the show will be right here

2985
02:34:54,400 --> 02:34:55,480
Speaker 2: just in moments, and.

2986
02:34:55,560 --> 02:34:58,160
Speaker 3: You can hang out and take a listen. A lot

2987
02:34:58,160 --> 02:34:59,840
Speaker 3: of Futherday boys flew by.

2988
02:35:01,680 --> 02:35:03,800
Speaker 4: Cousin can I Can I tell you two things, two

2989
02:35:04,000 --> 02:35:07,240
Speaker 4: important things. One, you know we have Brad on every

2990
02:35:07,360 --> 02:35:10,680
Speaker 4: single week in the last thirty minutes of our show.

2991
02:35:11,040 --> 02:35:13,200
Speaker 4: When you brought him on a couple of minutes ago,

2992
02:35:13,680 --> 02:35:16,160
Speaker 4: I genuinely thought, oh, Brad's on an hour early. I

2993
02:35:16,240 --> 02:35:17,560
Speaker 4: still thought we had an hour and a half to go.

2994
02:35:17,760 --> 02:35:21,000
Speaker 4: That's how fun it's been this morning, which is crazy.

2995
02:35:21,080 --> 02:35:23,200
Speaker 4: And Two we came back with Keith Urban Music. I

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02:35:23,280 --> 02:35:25,600
Speaker 4: will say because I frequently get asked nicest people I've

2997
02:35:25,640 --> 02:35:28,640
Speaker 4: ever toured with in my life Kenny Rodgers and Keith

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02:35:28,720 --> 02:35:31,000
Speaker 4: Urban by far and Keith. I'll never forget the first

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02:35:31,080 --> 02:35:33,280
Speaker 4: day we were on the Keith Urban tour. I like,

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02:35:33,360 --> 02:35:35,200
Speaker 4: you have these risers you set your instruments on in

3001
02:35:35,240 --> 02:35:37,400
Speaker 4: the middle of the afternoon so they can roll on stage.

3002
02:35:37,400 --> 02:35:38,920
Speaker 4: And I was setting all my stuff up. I get

3003
02:35:38,959 --> 02:35:40,760
Speaker 4: tapped on the shoulder and I look over and he's like, hey,

3004
02:35:41,040 --> 02:35:43,560
Speaker 4: I'm Keith, Like I don't know that, And I introduced

3005
02:35:43,560 --> 02:35:45,800
Speaker 4: myself and through the whole tour the number of times

3006
02:35:45,800 --> 02:35:47,200
Speaker 4: he would just come up and be like, hey, if

3007
02:35:47,200 --> 02:35:49,600
Speaker 4: it's everything good, And you know, I hadn't seen him

3008
02:35:49,680 --> 02:35:52,040
Speaker 4: in months, in months, and we were at the ACM

3009
02:35:52,080 --> 02:35:55,080
Speaker 4: Awards at Catamug Country Music Awards in Vegas, and we

3010
02:35:55,200 --> 02:35:57,320
Speaker 4: were doing this after party thing where everybody gets up

3011
02:35:57,360 --> 02:35:59,960
Speaker 4: on stage and plays and I'm standing there with our

3012
02:36:00,080 --> 02:36:03,039
Speaker 4: drummer from the band. Again, we hadn't seen him in months,

3013
02:36:03,080 --> 02:36:05,280
Speaker 4: and he meets so many people, and all of a sudden,

3014
02:36:05,280 --> 02:36:07,280
Speaker 4: I don't know where, Keith walks up with Nicole and

3015
02:36:07,400 --> 02:36:09,800
Speaker 4: he's like, Nicole, this is Fits and Boone. They're part

3016
02:36:09,840 --> 02:36:11,600
Speaker 4: of the band Perry, And I was like, oh my god.

3017
02:36:11,760 --> 02:36:16,280
Speaker 4: It was just such like waws, just like it's just

3018
02:36:16,720 --> 02:36:18,560
Speaker 4: a kind And I think of all the shows I

3019
02:36:18,640 --> 02:36:21,400
Speaker 4: ever toured, all the tours I was ever on, I

3020
02:36:22,080 --> 02:36:25,360
Speaker 4: genuinely believe he's the only one where probably ninety percent

3021
02:36:25,400 --> 02:36:27,840
Speaker 4: of the shows. When we finished our show, we all

3022
02:36:28,080 --> 02:36:30,080
Speaker 4: quickly changed and we all walked out in front of

3023
02:36:30,160 --> 02:36:32,840
Speaker 4: house and we watched he and his band every night

3024
02:36:32,879 --> 02:36:34,880
Speaker 4: because every night they brought it and his songs are

3025
02:36:34,920 --> 02:36:37,160
Speaker 4: just incredible. So shout out to Keith Thurman.

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02:36:37,680 --> 02:36:40,160
Speaker 3: Dude, that's a great story. I love hearing stories like that.

3027
02:36:41,280 --> 02:36:42,920
Speaker 4: We had story time with the Fellas Alens.

3028
02:36:42,959 --> 02:36:45,000
Speaker 5: You could usually hear the opposite when it comes to

3029
02:36:45,080 --> 02:36:47,199
Speaker 5: a lot of celebrities and they meet so many people,

3030
02:36:47,240 --> 02:36:48,760
Speaker 5: and so many people are popping in and out of

3031
02:36:48,760 --> 02:36:50,480
Speaker 5: their lives left and right and meeting them. The fact

3032
02:36:50,480 --> 02:36:52,600
Speaker 5: that he introduced himself to you and then remembered you

3033
02:36:52,840 --> 02:36:54,600
Speaker 5: years later, that's incredible.

3034
02:36:55,360 --> 02:36:55,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

3035
02:36:55,560 --> 02:36:58,000
Speaker 4: I also think one of the beautiful things about because

3036
02:36:58,000 --> 02:37:02,320
Speaker 4: everybody knows his battles recovery and addiction one of the

3037
02:37:02,360 --> 02:37:04,480
Speaker 4: beautiful things. And this is why I never like y'all.

3038
02:37:04,520 --> 02:37:07,800
Speaker 4: This is a life lesson never judge things without context.

3039
02:37:07,959 --> 02:37:11,199
Speaker 4: Because during the last song of his show, they always

3040
02:37:11,280 --> 02:37:13,120
Speaker 4: back the bus up to the stage so he can

3041
02:37:13,200 --> 02:37:15,120
Speaker 4: walk right off the stage and get straight onto the bus.

3042
02:37:15,440 --> 02:37:18,840
Speaker 4: I remember one time talking to one of the security

3043
02:37:18,879 --> 02:37:21,160
Speaker 4: people that was just a local, and they were talking

3044
02:37:21,200 --> 02:37:23,240
Speaker 4: about how Keith obviously thought he was too good for

3045
02:37:23,320 --> 02:37:26,039
Speaker 4: everybody to stand around and just say hi to people

3046
02:37:26,080 --> 02:37:28,880
Speaker 4: after the show. And what that person didn't know is

3047
02:37:28,920 --> 02:37:32,120
Speaker 4: that because one of his triggers for addiction is to

3048
02:37:32,200 --> 02:37:34,560
Speaker 4: come down after a concert like it really hurts him.

3049
02:37:35,280 --> 02:37:36,680
Speaker 4: He gets on that bus and he gets out of

3050
02:37:36,720 --> 02:37:38,800
Speaker 4: the room, so he doesn't make any bad decisions. And

3051
02:37:38,920 --> 02:37:40,920
Speaker 4: I always think about that because it's like, that's a

3052
02:37:40,959 --> 02:37:43,800
Speaker 4: man that figured out a way to work through his issues,

3053
02:37:44,080 --> 02:37:45,840
Speaker 4: and that's a man that figured out what was important

3054
02:37:45,879 --> 02:37:47,480
Speaker 4: to him. And I always thought it was funny that

3055
02:37:47,600 --> 02:37:50,120
Speaker 4: somebody that had no context decided because the bus was

3056
02:37:50,160 --> 02:37:52,320
Speaker 4: pulling out right away, that it meant he was a

3057
02:37:52,360 --> 02:37:54,640
Speaker 4: bad dude, and it's the opposite. So just a life

3058
02:37:54,720 --> 02:37:55,560
Speaker 4: lesson for everybody.

3059
02:37:55,720 --> 02:37:58,800
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, that's great. That's a wonderful lesson. That's you're

3060
02:37:58,920 --> 02:37:59,640
Speaker 3: exactly right.

3061
02:38:01,000 --> 02:38:03,360
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, So a trailer came out from a movie

3062
02:38:04,160 --> 02:38:07,920
Speaker 2: that will be in theaters this fall. I cannot wait

3063
02:38:08,080 --> 02:38:10,520
Speaker 2: for it. You got to tell me if you're in

3064
02:38:10,720 --> 02:38:15,440
Speaker 2: or not, because I got chills. So take a listen

3065
02:38:15,520 --> 02:38:15,680
Speaker 2: to this.

3066
02:38:18,920 --> 02:38:20,040
Speaker 3: I remember that day.

3067
02:38:22,280 --> 02:38:26,800
Speaker 4: I never forgot it that a slave could take revenge.

3068
02:38:26,400 --> 02:38:31,240
Speaker 3: Against an emperor. Where were you born? Oh I don't know.

3069
02:38:32,520 --> 02:38:33,360
Speaker 4: I never knew a mother.

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02:38:33,440 --> 02:38:37,640
Speaker 3: No, my father. You will be my instrument. You are you?

3071
02:38:43,400 --> 02:38:44,320
Speaker 3: Did you hear that crowd?

3072
02:38:46,480 --> 02:38:48,600
Speaker 1: The greatest temple the room.

3073
02:38:48,520 --> 02:38:53,440
Speaker 4: Ever built, the coliseum, Because this is what they believe

3074
02:38:53,520 --> 02:38:54,720
Speaker 4: in power.

3075
02:39:04,959 --> 02:39:08,160
Speaker 3: General the cases, there are victories yet still to come.

3076
02:39:09,480 --> 02:39:11,879
Speaker 6: Room has so many subjects, she must feed them.

3077
02:39:12,520 --> 02:39:13,119
Speaker 4: They can eat.

3078
02:39:13,240 --> 02:39:23,720
Speaker 9: Wye Arena turned slaves into gladiators and the gladiators into

3079
02:39:23,800 --> 02:39:24,200
Speaker 9: free men.

3080
02:39:25,240 --> 02:39:32,880
Speaker 3: You have something. I knew it from the start. I

3081
02:39:32,920 --> 02:39:38,360
Speaker 3: could go all day with this Gladiator too dead zel,

3082
02:39:38,879 --> 02:39:41,560
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? Tell me you're as excited as

3083
02:39:41,600 --> 02:39:41,880
Speaker 3: I am.

3084
02:39:42,680 --> 02:39:45,520
Speaker 4: One of my buddies sent to our group text the

3085
02:39:45,600 --> 02:39:47,360
Speaker 4: trailer and he said, you have to watch this right now,

3086
02:39:47,360 --> 02:39:49,360
Speaker 4: and I usually roll my eyes. Dude, I watched that

3087
02:39:49,720 --> 02:39:51,760
Speaker 4: and I let out a guttural yell at the end,

3088
02:39:51,879 --> 02:39:55,320
Speaker 4: like that night in the theater. Hell, I might well

3089
02:39:55,560 --> 02:39:58,240
Speaker 4: wear gladiator gear. Let's go. I am in for that.

3090
02:40:00,840 --> 02:40:01,240
Speaker 3: Figgie.

3091
02:40:01,840 --> 02:40:04,039
Speaker 6: So that means I have to watch Gladiator one first, right?

3092
02:40:04,600 --> 02:40:08,920
Speaker 4: Oh no, god, I have not.

3093
02:40:09,240 --> 02:40:11,240
Speaker 6: Doesn't mean I didn't. It's not that I ever wanted to.

3094
02:40:11,320 --> 02:40:12,360
Speaker 6: I just I just haven't done it.

3095
02:40:13,240 --> 02:40:15,560
Speaker 2: Oh dude, due this weekend, you got the baby, the

3096
02:40:15,600 --> 02:40:17,480
Speaker 2: baby sleep and put on Gladiator.

3097
02:40:18,560 --> 02:40:19,360
Speaker 3: It's a great move.

3098
02:40:19,640 --> 02:40:20,199
Speaker 4: Gladiator.

3099
02:40:20,280 --> 02:40:22,600
Speaker 6: Now today I have my homework assignment.

3100
02:40:22,640 --> 02:40:24,600
Speaker 3: I'm on it, all right, that's it, all right, everybody,

3101
02:40:24,680 --> 02:40:27,560
Speaker 3: We're done. Have a great Day. We love you guys.

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Speaker 3: Fella See next week.