1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janne Kramer, and I heard radio podcast. Okay, 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: I'm super excited because you were actually supposed to be 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: our first guest, like first episode, first guest. And I 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: was like, so excited because I've been obsessed with you 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: for a very, very very long time. You guys, this 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: is Merissa Jarrett. We want to say it. Do you 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: know how to say it? She said. I was like, 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to mess it up. 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: It's Winoker, Merissa Jarrett, Winoker. Yes, And I'm just I'm 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: so happy to have you in the studio with us. 11 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I was like, I was like, I came 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: in all frazzled. I was like, oh, sorry, a couple 13 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: of therapy ran light. What happened? Honestly, it was a 14 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: great session, but we we didn't talk about like the 15 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: intense thing until the last ten minutes, so it was 16 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: just like, yeah, it's like the massage, like that feels 17 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: so good to Oh it's over, yeah I know. And 18 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: then I was like I gotta I gotta go. Yeah, 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: I've never done a couple of therapy I needed. I mean, 20 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: were married, we've been lessling me. I'm like, um, we've 21 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: been married, for see how much I need therapy. I 22 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: don't even know how long we've been rid. Well, if 23 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: my kids ten, then we've been married for like eleven 24 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: or twelve years. I've never done a couple of therapy. No, 25 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: but he really needs a couple of therapies. He needs 26 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: to really needs The person says that he really need 27 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: therapy for um, he's like a robot, like like no emotion, 28 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: zero zero and it's the last time he cried. Oh, 29 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: I never like or not even my mom died. That's 30 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: why we need therapy all because I'm still mad about that. 31 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: What if I was like that was thirty years ago. 32 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: But I mean like you're like, just do not care 33 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: about my mom? Did you write? Like, yeah, no, that's 34 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: why we need therapy. What have you asked him to 35 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: go there? Yeah? And he says no, no, he so sure, 36 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: let's do it. And why don't you go? I don't 37 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: know because we never have time. I don't know because 38 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: I I say everything always. It's like I'm like, this 39 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: is exactly what I'm feeling at all times, and he's like, 40 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: I compute, I understand, I will do better. I am sorry, 41 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: I love you. And then I'm like okay, literally our 42 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: third are you lacking then stuff from them? Because he 43 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: is a because he's a robot. Yeah, well then what 44 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: does he say to that? He says, stop calling me 45 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: a robot. But if he's being one, then it's like 46 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: there's nothing I can do. I honestly blame it all 47 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: in his parents, but that's a whole another story. Everybody 48 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: in his family. Are you going to cry when his 49 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: mom dies? Yeah? Oh my god, Oh my god, right now, 50 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: I could person to tears. But robots, no, oh my god. 51 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 1: I love them so I love them so much. And 52 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: they're actually not robots, but he is. He's a robot, 53 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: but he's lovely. What's his name? And he's he knows it. 54 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: You know. You guys just have one kid? Yeah? Oh yeah, 55 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 1: So why why did you not go for two? Um? 56 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: I barely wanted the one. No, I love my sons 57 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: so much. No, No, I had a No, it cost 58 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: me a million dollars to have this kid. Yeah. I 59 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: had IVF, I had had cancer, so I had a 60 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: surrogate to carry it. I mean, this was the most 61 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: planned out baby ever, like first, because both those things 62 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: I want to talk about. Yeah, I mean, no, I 63 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: don't know you want to start with the cancer. I mean, yeah, 64 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: you just came from therapy. I feel like you're like, 65 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 1: oh my god, you are. I feel like I'm gonna 66 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: cry like my husband's I will say, when I had cancer, 67 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: he was totally there. Did he cry? I think he did, 68 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: But I was like on a lot of medications, so 69 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: I never really saw. When did you find out and 70 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: what kind of cancer? I was twenties seven and I 71 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 1: had um cervical and uterine. It had moved from my 72 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: service to my uterus and um I had to have 73 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: a seven. I had a radical hysterectomy, which means they 74 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: take out your uterus but leave your ovaries super glamorous. 75 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: So what, like what symptoms were you having? None. I 76 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: literally went for a paps mayor are you serious? Yeah, 77 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: I'll get your paps. Yeah literally, I mean just went 78 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: for a routine checkup, like my one year routine checkup, 79 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: and and it had spread from my service to my 80 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: uterus in the time that I went for my surgery, 81 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: So so it was moving really fat. So had I 82 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: like been like, had I got that job that you 83 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: know would have taken me out of town? Yeah, So 84 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: did you have like an abnormal PAP and they're like, hey, 85 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: you need to come back kind of thing. And then yeah, 86 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: we were like okay, like whatever is people know? I 87 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I have cancer. I mean, I am 88 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,839 Speaker 1: so Jewish. I was like, oh, this is it. This 89 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: is the end of me. They would have said she 90 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: would have been so good, like I literally, I mean 91 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: but when I was doing hairspray too. Right before I 92 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: did hair spray, I literally was like if I got 93 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: hit by a bus right now, they'd be like, she 94 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: would have been so good, Like I had like visions 95 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: of that. So that's just what That's just what I do. 96 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: But I mean, so, okay, so you went back. So 97 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: I went back in meeting. I was very proactive. I mean, 98 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: that's like the biggest thing I can say to people 99 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: is like, be very proactive about your health because if 100 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: you just you get one life, you're not kept don't exactly. Yeah, 101 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: although I sort of feel like I've had a couple 102 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: of lives. But yeah, but yeah, So that happened. And 103 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: then I wasn't um emotionally even ready to understand what 104 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: that meant. I had literally was in rehearsal for hairspray 105 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: while it was going on. So I was like it 106 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: was like I kept at a huge secret. I was like, 107 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell anybody about this because so it 108 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: was stiring, like you're like big yeah hrah, like yeah, 109 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: so it was pretty intense. And then like, why is 110 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: this happening? I have my big you know, my big 111 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: She would have been so good. Yeah, literally, like she 112 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: have been when she could have given like we would 113 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: have loved Yeah. Yeah, I already pictured like what they 114 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: would have put on at the Tony Is if I 115 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: had died, Like you never saw her, but she was 116 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: like what did the doctors say when they called? Were 117 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: they just like you need to come into the office. Yeah, 118 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: they were like you need to come back immediately. Yeah. 119 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: Like it wasn't like hey, if you want to come 120 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: back in six months. It was like come back tomorrow 121 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: and let's keep They kept doing exploratory surgeries until they 122 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: realized like, oh no, this is no joke. And then 123 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, now I need to get let 124 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: rat or was it more just like it was more 125 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: like let's get it. It was like in tumor forms, 126 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: so they were able to take it out without doing 127 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: chemo or radiation. So I was lucky you kept your 128 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: amazing hair. I kept my amazing hair, and my ovaries 129 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: were fine, so I was able to take out an 130 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: egg for a million dollar baby. And I get I've 131 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: done so, I get it. It's it's tough. Well, that'll 132 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: get you in therapy. Well, those injections made you crasp crazy, 133 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: like I can't even like, I'm sorry, right, here goes 134 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: the beat. But it's being crazy that will put you 135 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: in therapy during the rest of your life. The medicine 136 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: that you're on is so intense and also just like 137 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: all the emotions of like, there's so much more than 138 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: just the drugs that are messing up your body, like 139 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: everything is, and there's nothing the man can do that 140 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: can make up for that. So no, totally there you Okay, 141 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: a few questions. Sorry, I'm like, I don't get this off. 142 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: What are the chances of it coming back? Oh? Is 143 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: it impossible? Because you are basically I'm considering, like now, 144 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: my chances are the same as everybody else's, Like now 145 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: we're just even for other cancers. Yeah, because I'm at 146 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: seven what are we in two thousand seven teen? Now 147 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: you know why? I don't know how long I've been 148 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: married I got married in two thousands six. There, that's 149 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: how long I've been married. I got married in two 150 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: six Um, so it's two eighteen so i've been I'm 151 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: seventeen years cancer free, So that's there, Like you're I mean, 152 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: I go every six months for a chat up, so 153 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: I'm probably safer than anybody else because I'm getting checked 154 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: up all the time. Well congratulations, it's what did you 155 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: What was your biggest takeaway from having cancer? Like is 156 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: it you know, do you tell people you love them 157 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: more like or is it something or you kind of 158 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: like right like right when I was right after cancer, 159 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: my whole life like changed, right Like I was like, 160 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: no more fast food and no more of this and 161 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: now I'm just like, oh my god, what can I 162 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: eat whenever I can put it in my mouth? So like, 163 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it happened that and you know, um, I 164 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: had a lot of you know, like anything anyone asked 165 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: me to do, I was like, yes, I have to 166 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: do everything I'm gonna you know. I was like life 167 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: is too short. And then I opened in hairspray and 168 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: it was like more important. It wasn't about being a star, 169 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: Like I definitely spent my whole life growing up being 170 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: like I just want to be a star. I just 171 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: want to be famous, Like I just want to be 172 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: And then when I had cancer, I didn't care, like 173 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: I feel like not said it changed, but it changed. 174 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: I was ready to be a star in a show 175 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: and I was ready to lead a Broadway show eight 176 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: nights a week because I did. It wasn't about being famous, 177 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: it was about doing what I love. And I feel 178 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: that's what's changed in me. But that I hope that 179 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: would have changed as I got older, but I don't know, 180 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: it might not have. I was pretty unbearable prior. I 181 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: was really ambitious and then I sort of lost that 182 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: so ambition now well like no, no, no, Like I 183 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: mean like I was definitely much more like into like 184 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: I just really wanted to be famous, do you know 185 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: what I mean? Where And I like look back at 186 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: that girl and I'm like, oh my gosh, Like I 187 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: was so adamant about like succeeding and what that meant. 188 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: Whereas where childhood did that play a part? Probably what 189 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: were you like wanting to fulfill in your life? Oh, 190 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: I was the youngest of four and I like wanted 191 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: my dad to like be like you're the best always 192 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: so so your perspective change. Yeah, yeah, I was a 193 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: more about like I I and I'm glad about that. 194 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: Like there's a couple of things like and even like 195 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: my son. I always say, like, as crazy as it is, 196 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: I would I would have been a mom, but I 197 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been a mom like Zev would have been 198 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: my child because we I mean, it was so much 199 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: work to have him. So what we had to go 200 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,479 Speaker 1: through to have him all started because of the cancer. Right, 201 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: So in the big scheme, it's like, I have no 202 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: regrets for any of that because as much of a 203 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: pain in the ass as my son is, like that, 204 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: I want to he's almost ten yea, so he's his 205 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: own person, a ten year old boy man. Yeah yeah, 206 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: and an only child. Okay, did you have any more 207 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: embryos leftover? Or was that we tried the second We 208 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: did try for about two years and then it just 209 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: wasn't taking. So we finally were like and then during 210 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: that time, z I was like out of diaper as 211 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: he was three, and I'm like, oh, we are done. 212 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, I am not jumping back into that mess again. 213 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: How is the only child thing playing out? Okay? It's good. 214 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: You know what, I wouldn't I couldn't imagine having an 215 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: only child because I was such a big family. But 216 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: he's so surrect, like I have like literally there's a 217 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: gay man in my house at all times, you know. 218 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: So he's got like twenty gay uncles that literally, like 219 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: there's someone living in our guest room every Like you're 220 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: in New York and where we live here, our home 221 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: is here. We have a place in New York as well, 222 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: but like this is like our home and we have 223 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: a nice enough place that we could always take in 224 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: my unemployed friends. For me, when couples therapy doesn't go there, 225 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: you can come and live. But then you have to 226 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: drive my kid to school three times a week. That's 227 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,119 Speaker 1: the deal. Yeah, I have a two year old, So 228 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: wait are you doing? And you have a two year old? 229 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: I have a two and well I'm not doing IVF 230 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: any more, but I have a two and a half 231 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: year old. Yeah, so the last two IVF didn't work, 232 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: and it's just like you kind of come go to 233 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: a point where you're at that age too. It's tough. 234 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: I know, it's tough to go back into that. I 235 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: know it's really hard. So I'm just like all right, yeah, 236 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: I think that's what you have to and no regrets, 237 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: Like I feel like I tried and it didn't happen 238 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: for us, and that's fine, and we got a dog. 239 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: And it's so hard that when you see like kids 240 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: are like sixteen and they're like popping out, like someone 241 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: I get pregnant, and you're like, well, probably when you 242 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: were sixteen, always thought about was like, don't get pregnant, 243 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: don't get pregnant, don't get pregnant. Yeah, it's a lot 244 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: harder to get Yeah. I mean I remember my entire 245 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: like teenage years being like, oh my god, please, I'm 246 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 1: never oh thank god, I got my period right. A 247 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: bout of times I prayed it was like, dear God, 248 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: I will never ever word be mean please, and then 249 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm like my period comes, I'm like just one more time? Yeah, 250 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: oh god, every time, every month of every year. So 251 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: how how hard is it to separate yourself from hair spray? 252 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: Because like when you because you're you know, you're still acting, 253 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: you're your kicking butt, you're doing anything. But it's like 254 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: do people just say, are you so typecastid that you 255 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: found it hard? Yeah? I mean where I find it 256 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: the hardest. It's a great question. I do find it 257 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: hardest because I'm I'm not a sixteen year old character, right, 258 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: So when people think of me as Tracy turnblat they 259 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: or like she's sixteen, right, or she's in her twenties, 260 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm in my forty like and like 261 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: even like for like TV stuff, They're like, oh, she 262 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: can't play a mom to us exteen year old, I'm like, 263 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: are you excuse me? Hitting me? Like you know, And 264 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: I think being short totally like messes with that too 265 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: a little bit. But like I find that, like thankfully 266 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: hair Spray was like the role of a lifetime, right, 267 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: So if I'm going to be a typecast anywhere, let 268 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: it be Tracy term Like I have no, that's fine, 269 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: b I'm like, you're not trying to bury it and 270 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: never I'm so proud. I'm proud of It's not just 271 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: the role. I'm proud of the show. I'm proud of 272 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: like what it did. Like I just say I just 273 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: went and did um that makes you feel good. It's inspirational. 274 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: It's like it's got a great message. Yeah. So and 275 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: Tracy was like I inspired to be like her. Like 276 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: as as cheesy as that sounds, she was securing herself 277 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: and I just loved. I don't know if that so 278 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: I think like that lives on and it's timeless. Yeah, 279 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: so exactly, so I'm okay with that, you know, like 280 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: I would love to play like you know, you know, 281 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: be like mom Rose and Gypsy when eventually they're gonna 282 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: let me or like Hello Dolly, Like that's like where 283 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: I would like love to do Broadway, but until anyone 284 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: lets me just play an older person, do you feel 285 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: like you have to change your look up or like yeah, 286 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: but I'm never going to like never, like I like, 287 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: I mean you look and like I wish I took 288 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: me seriously if you all could see me. I have, 289 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: like I like panned up pom poms in my hair, 290 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: Like no one takes me seriously. I wonder why. Like 291 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: I dressed like I'm a twelve. I literally brought my 292 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: son to school one day and this little girl just like, 293 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: oh my god, I love your hair accessories. I'm like, 294 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: oh my god, I love yards and I'm like, oh 295 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: my god. Ten year olds. Literally I dressed like a 296 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: ten year old. It's not even like a sixteen year old. 297 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: Like I'm like with the ten year old. So yeah, 298 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: I have a problem. Yeah, oh my god, I love 299 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: her because I just feel like she's best friend. No, 300 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: she's the best. Like she was one of the first 301 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: celebrities I met when I left, never been kissed. It 302 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: was like that was like I feel like that was 303 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: like one of the first times I was in a 304 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: movie because I had done Broadway, but I hadn't done 305 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: TV films. So good, Oh my god, he wants it 306 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: was that. It was so and I remember just like 307 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: meeting her and just being so excited and yeah, like 308 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: I'm friends with her, Like she's awesome, She's awesome. Would 309 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: definitely with you. She would she'd hold her hand, like 310 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: she would bring you flowers and hold her hand. I 311 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: love that. Ye, No, that's yeah. So what are you 312 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: working on right now? Well now, I mean like after 313 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: Big Brother, I feel like a big Brother, you're just 314 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: really nice. I mean no, Like, here's the thing, like 315 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: in God Flex Ross, like Ross and I are very 316 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: ros Matthews and I got very close on the show, 317 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: and um, he played a really tough game, like he 318 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: played hardcore and like there's a bazillion people on Instagram 319 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: that like swear at me on a daily basis, being 320 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: like he should have won, you robbed, I mean, but 321 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: like I'm also like laughing because it's like nobody like 322 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: saw my game, Like nobody, because my game was so 323 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: much deeper than Ross's, like but like his was such 324 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: the obvious Big Brother game, like you know, like talk 325 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: about people in the diary room and back Stubb and 326 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not going to do that because they're 327 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: all going home and watching the show like none of it, 328 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: Like he wasn't thinking it through, Whereas like I'm like 329 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: I was like deeper. I played a much deeper. Yeah, 330 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: I knew, like you can't. Like my whole thing was 331 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: like going in. I was like, you can't win celebrity 332 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: Big Brother by pissing off everybody's fan base and pissing 333 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: off their families because they're gonna go home and their 334 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: families are going to tell them who to vote for. 335 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: Like I knew if I got taken off the show, 336 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: my son would have said vote for James, right, Like 337 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: my son would have told me whose game he liked 338 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: or who wasn't mean to me or you know what 339 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: I mean, Like if someone's talking about me, my kid's 340 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: gonna be like, yeah, that Ross guy was talking about 341 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: you don't vote for him, and that would like, you know, 342 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: play home until you play. So my thing was like, 343 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: don't piss off anybody's fan base, like that's all just 344 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: play and have fun and be nice and to the 345 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: day you win celebrity shows, you be nice like that. 346 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: And I didn't, like I kept myself out of all 347 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: the drama, like I would actively be like, oh my god, 348 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: they just called me to the diary room. Nobody called me. 349 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: I was like, I just have to get out of 350 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: this argument like that's about to happen, you know, Like 351 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: and I would get and I'd like sit around and 352 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: read the Bible with us, like it was so weird. Yeah, 353 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: I like, I'm wearing pompoms and do you guys want glitter? 354 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: And I got these eye patches and everybody like literally 355 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: I brought stuff in to make friends like it was 356 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: high school. I was like, I'm going to bring in 357 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: enough stuff so everybody has stuff to hang out with. 358 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: But I like that though, because that's and I had 359 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: so much fun, Like I was never stressed at every 360 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: group in high school basically, yes, like mean girls, the 361 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: popular girls, jocks the nerves like James my sweatshirt. I 362 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: don't know. I knew what I was doing, but it 363 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: couldn't have been all puppies and rainbows. Like what was 364 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: the most annoying thing the most It wasn't all the 365 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: happiers and rainbows, of course, not um. The most annoying 366 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: thing would be like when they would do the challenges. 367 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: What people don't know is they separate you because you're 368 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: not doing it. So you would literally be stuck in 369 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: a room by yourself for six to eight hours, you guys, 370 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: not just like not just like, oh, we'll come and 371 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: get you in forty five minutes. It was like eight 372 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: hours would go by and you were like, please, can 373 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: I go to the bathroom? Big brother? Like it was, 374 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: and you have nothing to read, nothing to watch, like 375 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: just alone with your brain. That's terrifying. That's like if 376 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: you want to be in therapy. That's like where I 377 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: got like create and I would have an anxiety attack 378 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: and just fall asleep, like you know when your body 379 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: like just shuts down in pure panics, I was liked 380 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: and I would just pass out Like that would be 381 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: like did they lock the doors some of the doors 382 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: some of them have like the rooms with the bathroom 383 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: were locked, the rooms without the bathroom weren't locked. But 384 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: like you, it was almost like you were like being helped, 385 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: like you knew, don't leave that like when people. Yeah, 386 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: there's so many analogies I'm not going to use, but yeah, 387 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: it's like you don't leave because you're scared to terrifying. Well, 388 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: I'm never going to do that, but you know what 389 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: we did do the same rally show dancing how well 390 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: I want to know your not I had? I had 391 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: an incredible time. It was I was going through your 392 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: partner Gleb so he was new, this was his second season. 393 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: That's hard. Um so he was new and he was great, 394 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: Like I loved him. He was awesome. The problem was 395 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: like my personal life wasn't how like my husband I 396 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,479 Speaker 1: were separated, Like it was like us had I had 397 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: a four month old thing like oh my god, this 398 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: is like literally the nightmare going on. So it's like, 399 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: you know, I had to publicly say like I'm separated, 400 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on, and like so like 401 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: the I wish I would be Orchard in a dance studio. 402 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: Well they were like, it's only like four hours, I'm like, 403 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: if I could go. So one of my friends was 404 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: got asked to do it, and he's like, what's the 405 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: biggest lie? And I said that that it's four hours 406 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: out of your day because on top of the interviews 407 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: and the dancing, and if you go farther, you're dancing 408 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: eight to ten hours and they're in your backyard at 409 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: six am setting up the camera like they would be 410 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: in my backyard setting up the camera to do your like, well, 411 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: last night went great, and you're like twitching, like and 412 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: you're like, I don't even know what they're like, just 413 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: answer the question and the question and you're like, well, 414 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: it's like like you're like, I don't what do you 415 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: want me to say to keep this going faster? Like yeah, totally. 416 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: One on your season, Well, my season was season six, 417 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 1: so it was like the first time it was Christie Amagucci, 418 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: so it was like literally what she does is literally 419 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: like she does it on too, Like it was easier 420 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: to do it on the dance floor than on two 421 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: skin blades. And you had Derekoff as your no. I 422 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: had Tony Devil was great for me because it was 423 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: so tall that like my ballroom pose was perfect. Because 424 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: I literally had up like I couldn't do the ballroom 425 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: was like a short season. So it was all just 426 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: like I was horrible in all of the like Latin 427 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: dances because I could just hold on to him. Here's 428 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: the thing I did really well. But I was also 429 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: so we did we did? I mean, but mine was 430 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: strictly because the audience, like I was getting fives into 431 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: weak like I was, it would be so bad. They 432 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: weren't nice. I was telling you it was because I 433 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: was like I never let them see me cry. I like, 434 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I cried at home every night. But it 435 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: was also like I was the first like chubby girl 436 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: to do it, like I was genuinely the first one, 437 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: so like America was like, yeah, there's someone like us, 438 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, Like I genuinely was 439 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: like give me the short skirts, give me the tanner, 440 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: like don't like we're not trying to mask anything. This 441 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: is who I am. So I love that you own 442 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,959 Speaker 1: your body and I think that's the beautiful thing because 443 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you're it's like, this is this is 444 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: who I am. I'm not going to make excuses for it. 445 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: And let's see you get me in a short skirt. 446 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna shake it around and I'll tell you though. 447 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes I would like they would be like stitching my 448 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: skirt down to my booty shorts, and I was like, 449 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm looking over and I'm like I can see other 450 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: people's vaginas, Like I'm looking, why are you stitching my 451 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: Like are you so scared my thighs are gonna be 452 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: on TV? Like they would literally be like stitching me 453 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: into like my short so that my thighs wouldn't show. 454 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I can literally see inside of her 455 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: body like like we're like I can, yeah, exactly, Like 456 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: I'm like I'm looking at right now things that I 457 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,719 Speaker 1: should not say, but like, god forbid you see my 458 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: thighs on National Teavabe. So those were a couple of 459 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: moments where I'd be like mmmm, and I would like 460 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: be in the dressing room like I'm like, the skirt 461 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: doesn't twirl I wanted to. I would get so mad. 462 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: But that's fantastic. Yeah, I definitely loved it, but I mean, 463 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: looking back, I loved it, but I definitely had like 464 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: I was I've said many times times my surrogate was 465 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: pregnant at the time when I did Dancing with the 466 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: Starry So we were we were having a baby three 467 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: months after, so I was stressed out about that, but 468 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't I had like no idea what I was 469 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 1: getting myself into having a kid, right, So so I 470 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: was like like Mary, like I had nothing else going 471 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: on in my life. So it was like, but I've said, 472 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: I could never have done that show if I had 473 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: even a child at home, like, let alone anything else 474 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: going on. I couldn't imagine how stressful because you're so 475 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: on edge, so on edge, and then they're they're just 476 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: like wanting you to, like, you know, show the emotion. 477 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: And and I remember Glenn, I got in a fight 478 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: and you know, the camera was like on me, and 479 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: so I faked a phone, called them my mom and 480 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: I was like, hey Mom, how are you And it's 481 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: like because I just wanted like to see it. And 482 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: at that time, I was just like I don't I 483 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: need I need a space walk away camera. Yeah, Tony 484 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: not going to give you what Tony and I talked about. 485 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: We were like, they I'm not Marissa when Oakre is 486 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: not staying on the show, if she sits down and 487 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: cries ever, because I'm only here because people are like, Oh, 488 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: we're so happy, she's so happy. The in it I 489 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: sat down and cried over a dance move, they would 490 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: have been like, let her go home, like like, don't 491 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: make her do this anymore, you know what I mean? 492 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: Like genuinely, so we both were like if we ever 493 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: get to the point where you're gonna make me cry, 494 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: like we need a snack, we'd be like, we need 495 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: a snack, and we would like, go get a snack. 496 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,719 Speaker 1: I need I need a snack. Then like we have 497 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: to stop, I'm going to burst out and cry. Like 498 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: we definitely were like I need that. You knew, like 499 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: we had a safe word we had like Dancing with 500 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: the Stars sexual Snow it was a snack. What did 501 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: you guys? Um, honestly, this is and it's it's kind 502 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: of ironic me saying this because I was late today, 503 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: but I am. I'm very on time, and so it's 504 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: frustrating when he would be like, you know, I'm on 505 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: my way to the studio, so I don't again get 506 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: to spend a lot of time with my daughter. And 507 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: you know, during this time, because there's so much going 508 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: on and I was also on tour and it was 509 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: crazy time and he would show up an hour and 510 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: a half two hours later, and that in a few 511 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: hours I could have been with my So we thought 512 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: about that towards the very end of the season, and 513 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: you know, it was just you know, we were close 514 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: to the semi finals at that time, so I was like, 515 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, we're in this like you know, I'm like, 516 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: I want to work, and if you're gonna tell me 517 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna be late, like that is valid, Like that 518 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: is time with my child. We're taking away from me. 519 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: And I was like, so I went into like mom 520 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: like Craig Crime mode, and then like my husband was 521 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: kind of back in the picture at that time, and 522 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: it was just like so many different angles, and I 523 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,479 Speaker 1: had this Russian you know man just like yelling at me, 524 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, all right, if you don't respect me, 525 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: I'm not going to respect to you right now. And 526 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: you don't get to yell at me unless you're respecting 527 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: my stuff too. So we just like when no, you 528 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: never get to yell at me. No, that's that's why 529 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: you marry a robot because he never yells. He's never yelled, like, 530 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: never once has raised his voice. But see, okay, so 531 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: here's my question for that, Like, isn't that like don't 532 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: you like I think like healthy arguments are good. Sometimes 533 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: we argue, but the eye Like when I was in 534 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: Big Brother, like poor Brandy Brandy Glamville, like she like 535 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: kind of like snapped at me once and I was like, 536 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: Brandy just yelled at me, and Brandy's like, I wasn't 537 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: yelling at I'm like you to understand, I don't have 538 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: my husband doesn't even yelp me like that. I don't 539 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: I have that attitude of that, Like I don't have 540 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: that in my life, which yes, like there's been sometimes 541 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: where I'm like, you have no emotion, but like it's 542 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: the it is healthy to argue, but not when you're like, 543 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: I'm a crazy person, so arguing with me is I'm 544 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: just gonna keep circling around into a crazy person. So 545 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: like I think he's like it's not even worth it 546 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: with her, And what do you think your biggest issue 547 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: in your marriage is besides him being a robot? That's 548 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: literally my only issue. That's the only Yeah, Like we're 549 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: we're really like he's definitely like I and I say 550 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 1: this to all my friends now who are like at 551 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: that place where they're like, oh I should I need 552 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: to settle, like I need to get on this like 553 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,479 Speaker 1: TikTok tik talk. And I'm like, really, just marry your 554 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: best friend, like really really married, because I keep thinking 555 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: now like with Zev almost ten, my son's almost time, 556 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, in like eight years, we're going to 557 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: have so much fun together, Like we're going to travel 558 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: and we're gonna go do things, like we're going to 559 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: have such a good time. Like I'm excited for that 560 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: time time in my life where like my husband and 561 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: I can because we were together for fifteen years before 562 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: we had a child. So now it's like, oh we 563 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: I remember who that what that team was. Because the 564 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 1: only thing is we even have, honestly that have problems 565 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: with is raising our sun because we raise them, we 566 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: would raise them very differently you know so well. And 567 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: how does that work with him being in New York 568 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: and you've been here. Um, I make him feel guilty 569 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: every single day, Like every day I'm like, you don't 570 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: even understand what I had to do today, like the 571 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: air and that is it's hard because he then he 572 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: comes home for like a weekend and he's like, let's 573 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: go to David Busters, and we're getting ice cream for 574 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: ice cream and then ice cream for dinner and then 575 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: maybe we should just have Sundays for breakfast. And I'm like, 576 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: oh my god. And then I'm like, you need to 577 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: pack your bag for school, we need to do homework, 578 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: let's put out your clothes, Mike cleaner room like and 579 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: it's like he's gone to David Buster hasn't had four 580 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: meals of ice cream as his dad, you know what 581 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: I mean. So it's literally like we're set like a 582 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: divorced where it's like he gets to have like good 583 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: time dad and then like I'm home being like you know, 584 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: so it's so, where can my listeners follow you Instagram? 585 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: What's your Instagram handle? I think it's Merissa Jarrett when ogre. 586 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: That's got to be what it is. It is, it's 587 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: that Merissa Jarret went oker, right, and then do you 588 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: have anything coming out that that I do? But by 589 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: the time, but yeah, okay, to follow her on Instagram, 590 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: you probably already by the time you're hearing this, already 591 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: know everything. Okay, Like that's the truth. So I'm super excited. 592 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming in just at the studio. 593 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: Now is just brighter and friendlier. So thank you. Just 594 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: be nice people, just be nice. Love you, thank you. Okay, 595 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: um ms, Jen, Hey, you're my Lola girl. I am. 596 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: I love Lola. I've been using Lola since the moment 597 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: they packed the boxes and started sending them out. You 598 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: know I love about Lola. Why don't you say what 599 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: it is first? Since you are an avid user. I 600 00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 1: just love that because the gate opens up a house 601 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, the Lola packages there, which means 602 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: my periods here, period is starting. Yes, it always arrives 603 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: exactly exactly when I need them. And what I love 604 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: about Lola two is the fact that you can curate 605 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: your own basically your your box of because it's so 606 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: frustrating when you go to the store and you're I'm like, 607 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: I don't want twenty super tampons. I want this many 608 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: of this and this many of that. So I like 609 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: the fact that you can curate to whatever your flow 610 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: is exactly wealthy kind of an entire pantry of like 611 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: super and you know, super frustrating, get it. But with Lola, 612 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: it is it's give me, give me the goods on it. 613 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: It's natural, natural, easy to like you just feel good 614 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: about it because we are so focused on what we're 615 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: putting in our bodies on a daily basis. We need 616 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: to be focused on that being we're actually putting in 617 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: a system. Yes, absolutely, because for years we use tampons 618 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: that were full of perfumes, full of toxins, plastics. Okay, 619 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: so right now, for forty pc off all subscriptions, visit 620 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: my Lola dot com and entered Janna when you subscribe. 621 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: That's my Lola dot com and entered Janna when you subscribe. 622 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: I hope you love it as much as I do. Okay, 623 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: so I'm really excited because um Mrs Rayo Wahlberg is 624 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: in the studio with us right now. Hello, You're so pretty. 625 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: Thank you and thank you. But I don't I don't 626 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: feel pretty right now, just because I got I just 627 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: got back from couples therapy like an hour ago, so 628 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, and you're just like you're sweating and you're 629 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: crying and you're just like a whole mess. But you 630 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: have four kids, which is why you look. So I'm 631 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: just like, how how do you even do that look 632 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: as pretty as you are and have four kids? My 633 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: kids are in school all day, so your youngest is eight. Okay, 634 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: they go from eight to four teen, so they're in school. 635 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: I have I have the whole day to just so 636 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: you're not in any diapers or no, I'm out of diapers, bottles. 637 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: Body done. Yes, we are done. Like he snip snipped, 638 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: You're like snips. So there's a possibility to be a surprise. Wolberg, 639 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: how do you handle two boys to girls? Okay, well, 640 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: which is perfect. Um and I don't I've never met 641 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: you before, but I met your bag. Yes. I was 642 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: really excited because we have a friend, Nicole Prez and 643 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: um I was on her Instagram. I was like, oh 644 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: my gosh, I love that purse and she's like, oh, well, 645 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: it's her new line. So do you want to talk 646 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: about it? Yeah, our kids go to school together. Actually, 647 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: our two youngest, the two um eight year olds, are 648 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: in the same class, so we're pretty good friends. And 649 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: um and yeah, so the bag line, um is, basically 650 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: it's called La Grace, named after my two dog matters m. 651 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: My oldest daughter is Ella, the youngest is Grace um 652 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: Ella Grace by Raya Wahlberg. And um, So my idea 653 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: behind the whole bag line was that I wanted to 654 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: produce something that not necessarily people in l A and 655 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: New York and Miami, although I'm not excluding those people 656 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: like more than welcome you can buy them. But what 657 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: my idea was the people in Arkansas and Missouri and 658 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: Nebraska and that don't have access to to find you know, 659 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: leather goods and that, but they want bags that are 660 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: sort of replicated from you know, good quality, quality and 661 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: brand names. So that was my idea behind the whole, 662 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: the whole, the whole concept. How long have you been, Like, 663 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: what's how long has the process been? Literally we just 664 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: started probably nine months ago, and what your idea was 665 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: nine months ago? Two? Um, maybe nine months to a year. 666 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah, so he' just like I want to 667 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: do a bag and it's like boom nine months later, 668 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: like a baby. Fantastic. I know you did have another baby. 669 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: That's that's my baby. What is your favorite style of bag? 670 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: Like crossover handle? I like a cross body bag because 671 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: like when I'm in the grocery store or Target or whatever, 672 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: I'd like to put my bag across so that I 673 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: don't have to put it in the car and worry 674 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: about somebody stealing it when I walk off to like 675 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's very element of Target, right, and so 676 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: I like cross body, that's my favorite. I'm the same way, 677 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: that's my favorite. What about you? I'm a little bit 678 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: of both a little bit. It depends where I'm at. 679 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: So if I'm like disneylanding it, then I do the 680 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: cross body, or if I like the same Target, if 681 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: I'm doing that, or but if I'm out for like 682 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: just a little like lunch, I'll do my little yeah yeah, 683 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: just yeah, thanks, Just depends on that. On the outfit 684 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: for the evening. Yeah, you can sure like a little 685 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: evening bag and which we're coming out with. And so okay, 686 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: where can my listeners get your bags? Okay? So right 687 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: now we have very limited quality quantity. We have them 688 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: on my website, which is La Grace Wahlberg dot com. 689 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: Um and are you going to sell them in stores 690 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: at all? Or or is it just going to be 691 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: we are going to sell them in stores eventually. I'm 692 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: hoping possibly we might sell them in Target. I'm not 693 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: right positive, But I love about that though, because it 694 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: would be a high higher scale a brand basically for 695 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: Target for Target, that would be fantastic. It would be 696 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: accessible to everybody that I wanted to be accessible to 697 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: write Yeah, absolutely for someone that doesn't want the twenty 698 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: dollar fake leather. Yeah, that all of our products are 699 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: real leather. Um, although we have been asked for some 700 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: vegan leather lately. So I'm kind of like toying with 701 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: what's the price difference vegan? Is that is that less? 702 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: Or is that it's less? Okay, it's less, but that 703 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: then that defeats them? What you're you're exactly. That's what 704 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm kind of going up and down with whether I 705 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: should just stick to real leather, which is our leathers. 706 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: Did Peter ask you for leather or for the vegan 707 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: leather or I'll be crucified for this because I am vegan. 708 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: But there is a leather bank. I love more than 709 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: a nice leather back. Justather. So I don't know, like 710 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: because it comes from an animal. Oh so pends my 711 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: rabbit for jacket, I've got rocket. Peter hates me. That's fine. Um, 712 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: oh well that makes semi sense. But my leather. They 713 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: do have leather boots on. I have a leather jacket 714 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: in my office. But so you're like half vegan half leather, right, 715 00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: I'm vegan. I eat vegan, but you buy leather and 716 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: our mother is really good too. Yeah, it's really saw, 717 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: It's really good. I like it a lot. But I 718 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: guess my question with the vegan though, is that like 719 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: that again, that's just going to take away what you 720 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: kind of want for the kind of Um. Yeah, like 721 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 1: I said, I'm going up and down with it. But 722 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: we do have good good vegan. Um. You know our 723 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: swatches that I've been going over, you know they're not 724 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: bad designer bags do that vegan? I know Stella McCartney does, 725 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: does vegan. She's she's all yeah, three people too. So 726 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: how do you Is it hard being the wife of 727 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 1: a famous actor? Is it hard? Um? I don't really 728 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: look at him like that, so I don't. I don't. Okay. So, 729 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: like when you're out in public, people obviously are like 730 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: that's hard. You know, that's hard because it's hard for 731 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: us to go places. Um, we can't go to like 732 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: a lot of public places at the it's want to 733 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: go and the kids um complain a lot. Um like 734 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: you know, we don't want to go because you know 735 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 1: everybody's going to come up to you, daddy and want 736 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: your picture, and we don't. We even want to do that. 737 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 1: It's just so we don't want to do that, right, 738 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: So it's more of annoyance. It's not really cool for them. 739 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: It's more of but I know it's an annoyance. So um, 740 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: that part is hard. But I mean everything, you know, 741 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: I don't look at like I said, I don't look 742 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: at him. There's no jealousy or like anything like that. Yeah, 743 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: you guys got it together for forever, right, seventeen years 744 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: because you had you had your first one when you 745 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: weren't We weren't married. I was three, No, I was 746 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: twenty four. Sorry, we met when I was twenty. Where 747 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: did you guys meet that? We met in New York 748 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: through a mutual friend. Actually you might know him guy 749 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: O Siri. Oh it's not hiliar. He's Madonna's manager. Yeah, 750 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: I was like, why is that name sounds so familiar? 751 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: I mean I don't personally know him. Actually he's my 752 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: best friend. He introduced us and he takes full credit 753 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 1: for our whole family. That's incredible. And then how soon 754 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 1: did you guys get divorced? I mean divorced you where my? 755 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: So did you guys get married? We've been married for 756 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: nine years, so we've been together for seventeen and married 757 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: for nine Did what did anything change once you got married? Nothing? 758 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 1: That's not a thing. That's kind of we had, um 759 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: Serie daily on here to Carson Daily's wife, and she was, 760 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: you know, she's like, we did everything kind of backwards 761 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: and then when we got married was just like a 762 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 1: piece of paper. Nothing changed. Nothing we had already gone through, 763 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: like the ups and downs and exactly. Now, maybe that's 764 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: the secret. Maybe be nice and and do everything backwards. 765 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: Don't get married when you've known somebody for two months. 766 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: But I mean, you guys are in it for the 767 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: long haul. Yeah, oh yeah. I mean it's like you're like, 768 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 1: it's like he's he better now. And we're Catholic. Oh 769 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,439 Speaker 1: there you go, raised Catholic. Yeah it would be a sin. 770 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: But then hell there you you had kids out of 771 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: wedlock that we did, though I know we did. Was 772 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: that hard for your Catholic parents? Um? You know, I 773 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: was raised Christian and I converted to Catholicism for Mark, uh, well, 774 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: for myself and for the kids and for Mark and 775 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: just for the whole family in general. And um, he 776 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: was raised Catholic, Okay, But it wasn't really a big 777 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: deal for his family. Well no, but I love though 778 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: how religious you guys are, because it's um and it 779 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 1: was just nice to see. You know, you guys have 780 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: a beautiful family. You guys. You know, look, you give 781 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: a very strong marriage and it's it's it's nice. I 782 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: was obviously on your Instagram page and you guys were 783 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: talking about Easter and so I just loved all that stuff. Yeah, 784 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: it's every Sunday as a family. Well, you know what, 785 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: our kids go to Catholic school, so I don't make 786 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: them go on weekends because I feel like they get 787 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: enough during the week and I don't want to shove 788 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: it down their throat on the weekends. I let them 789 00:37:54,239 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: have a break. Um, he goes every single Sunday. Um, 790 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: He's not missed one Sunday since I've met him. Wow, 791 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if we're in Jamaica, We'll take a 792 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 1: boat to get to a church. Um, he's not amazing. 793 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 1: I go um as often as I can. I don't. 794 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: I don't go every Sunday, but um, yeah, he goes 795 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: every single Sunday. That's fantastic. And what like a man 796 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,760 Speaker 1: not to talk like too much about market Mill's relationship, 797 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 1: but like, what have you seen that make a difference 798 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: in your relationship? Is it just kind of keeping God 799 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: is number one? Or yeah, just his faith is so 800 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 1: strong and he's an eternal optimist. He's just very very 801 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:51,240 Speaker 1: positive and um, you know his faith comes first and 802 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: along with that comes family and marriage and kids, so 803 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: you know it kind of all it all, it all 804 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: connects and goes together. Right, that's great. Yes, I've seen 805 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: him a couple of Sundays at wall Burgers because my 806 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 1: son and I go there because I love the impossible Burger, 807 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: really excited when the sunset location got that. But I've 808 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 1: seen him and he just walks in, yeah, like a 809 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: normal business owner. And I have a lot of respect 810 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: for that because he probably has just come from church, 811 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 1: like the ton o'clock mass or eleven o'clock mass, and 812 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: then he's at work, Like how is he supposed to 813 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 1: walk just because he's bark Wallberg But he's like walking 814 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: into his business. We're very very normal. You would be 815 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 1: if you came to my house, you would be very shocked. 816 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 1: Which way would would you say that? It's like, I 817 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:53,439 Speaker 1: mean our kids are very normal. They're not I mean, 818 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: they don't care about Hollywood they don't care about you know, 819 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: dad's a star and there's no there's nothing that's celebrate 820 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: rated around him being Mark Wahlberg. There's, you know, nothing 821 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: like that. And I'm I'm stay at home mom. Do 822 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: they watch his movies? Uh? Some of them? Yeah, some 823 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: of them. I haven't let them watch all of them, 824 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: right there? Are That means you guys are doing it 825 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 1: right at home, I hope, so absolutely. So what made 826 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: you then want to because obviously, you know, you were 827 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: freaking set for life and you just you really wanted 828 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: like your purpose, like to be able to work and 829 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: do something for yourself or was it like a yeah, 830 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: I really wanted to you know, like I said, all 831 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 1: the kids are in school, I wanted to be to 832 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: do something else. I mean, you know, how often can 833 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: you do the same thing every day? It's like it's yeah, exactly. 834 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,359 Speaker 1: So I wanted to be creative. I wanted to use 835 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: my creativity. Um I used to be a model. Um 836 00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: so I had thank you I um so my creativity 837 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: was there, and then I had kids, little kids, back 838 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: to back to back, so I was busy with that 839 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 1: and now they're on school. So I wanted to to 840 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 1: be creative again and um and you know, this was 841 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: the perfect opportunity. I think that's awesome. Yeah, that's great again. 842 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,479 Speaker 1: Can you just it's Ella Grace Wahlberg dot com. Yes, 843 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 1: for your bags. For the bags, and there's a very 844 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: limited amount available right now, but there's going to be more. 845 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: There's going to be more, Okay, and then can they 846 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: order like on back back Stoker? Um, well, as soon 847 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: as we get them up and online. And I mean 848 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm actually manufacturing a few new fresh styles for fall winter, 849 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: so um, so those will be those will be up there. 850 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:51,879 Speaker 1: But I'm also launching exclusively at um Ron Robinson on Melrose. Yeah, 851 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: so we're going to do a trunk show there in September, 852 00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: um and the line will be available fantastic. Yeah, We're 853 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 1: going to do like the phone you know those phone 854 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: cases like that people wear and they we're doing those 855 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: like with like different straps that you can match and 856 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah awesome. Well, thank you so much for 857 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 1: coming in and just sharing your life with us and 858 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: your bad so I appreciate it. Thank you for having me. 859 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: Thank you so much to my guest today, um Merissa, 860 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: Jarrett Winoker and Rayah Wahlberg. Thank you, Jen Thank you 861 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: everybody for listening. We love your email, so please please 862 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: please keep sending them. Janna Krmeer I heart media dot Com. 863 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: We'll be back next week to wind down