WEBVTT - Nightcap NBA Playoff Recap - Part 2: Coach Pop steps down as Spurs coach + Knick Advance

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<v Speaker 1>The Dame was apparently being shot around before the injury.

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<v Speaker 1>According to sam Amy, the relationship between Giannis and Damon

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<v Speaker 1>strong as at the respect level, but the imperfection of

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<v Speaker 1>the On Kirk pairing remained. In their second season together,

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<v Speaker 1>and with the group collectively limitations growing more evident by

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<v Speaker 1>the month, a conversation was luoming about whether Lillard and

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<v Speaker 1>the Bucks might be better off party ways they part

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<v Speaker 1>ways not because the ain't nobody traded for a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that's not gonna be able to play until twenty six,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven, So you stuck with him and he's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to help you.

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<v Speaker 2>So now what do you do? Q? That's interesting they

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<v Speaker 2>just to have.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's a little interesting tied that to come out

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<v Speaker 3>right now, Like the timing of it is this funny

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<v Speaker 3>to me.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe they try and move down still this summer, like

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<v Speaker 3>you straighten things that name.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, man, I ain't trader. How's you gonna

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<v Speaker 2>give me a call? How are you gonna try to

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<v Speaker 2>sell me a car with no mode in it?

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<v Speaker 3>Because you're saying the first way they tried to come

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<v Speaker 3>out and already say like it was It wasn't like

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<v Speaker 3>a crazy tear or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, the the I guess the minimum amount of amount

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<v Speaker 3>of damage it could be or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know, man, I don't know. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like, like I say, unless unless Janni's come

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<v Speaker 3>in and say something.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be real interesting to see.

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<v Speaker 3>What goes on over there, because I know the last

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<v Speaker 3>thing they gonna do they not coming at offering no

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<v Speaker 3>trade for Jannis.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't oh no, no, no, no, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 1>But see that was the most shocking thing about the

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<v Speaker 1>Luca trade. You could then't request to be traded. If

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<v Speaker 1>we go back and study history, guys that have been moved,

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to be moved. Kareem wanted to be moved.

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<v Speaker 1>Shaq wanted his money. Jared Buss didn't want to give

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<v Speaker 1>him his money. He was starting to age, and he said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna move you. So when you look at it,

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<v Speaker 1>Luca is twenty five, he had just turned me about

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<v Speaker 1>to turn twenty six. He was in the league eight years,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a five time first team All NBA selection,

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<v Speaker 1>and he got moved.

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<v Speaker 2>So normally guys don't move guys like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not moving yais unless he says, come movement, You

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<v Speaker 1>don't move KD. Unless KD says move me, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>move A Lebron. Lebron has never, never asked to be traded.

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron has always played out of his played his contract

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<v Speaker 1>out and then he's left. But when you get guys

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<v Speaker 1>like that, Celtics on trade Jason Tatum unless Jayson Tatum

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<v Speaker 1>says I want to be traded. You see Donovan Mitchell

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<v Speaker 1>Utap moved him Why because he said he wanted to go. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>He's really that simple. You Nightcapp family. Let's give it

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<v Speaker 1>up for Q. Thank him for joining us. Go follow

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<v Speaker 1>him at Q rich and his podcast at Knucklehead's podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Q Man, thank you for your time, Thanks for joining

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<v Speaker 1>us to break down these game and talk all things basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations on the podcast, Keep growing, keep doing your thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Bro.

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<v Speaker 3>All right back with us. Thank A'm gouty here. I

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<v Speaker 3>gotta say one thing to you, Michael Jeffrey Jordan is

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<v Speaker 3>to go. I'm not gonna plade it, I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>argue it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what it is? Jalen Bronson game went over the pistons,

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<v Speaker 2>What a shot? What the moment?

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<v Speaker 1>The next window series? Rob you one of the great

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<v Speaker 1>clutch shot shooters. Let me ask you this. I think

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<v Speaker 1>for our audience, they want to know in that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>are you thinking, like, man, if I make this shot

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<v Speaker 1>on a hero, if I miss it, or you just

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<v Speaker 1>going through the It's the same whether the moment is

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<v Speaker 1>there or not. It's just like if it was the

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<v Speaker 1>first quarter, the second quarter, third quarter. What goes through

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<v Speaker 1>your head when you're taking a shot that could potentially

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<v Speaker 1>win you the game or lose you the game?

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<v Speaker 4>Y know, I think about anything, man, because it's just

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<v Speaker 4>like when you're in a gym. You're taking all these

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<v Speaker 4>shots and prepare for this moment. You put the reps

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<v Speaker 4>in and that's what you gotta do. That's why you

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<v Speaker 4>see guys. You know you take Kobe Fence's He's been

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<v Speaker 4>the gym twenty four to seven, so everything came easy.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you put in the time, in the work

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<v Speaker 4>and the sacrifice, these moments like this, you don't even

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<v Speaker 4>think about it. When you think about Jalen Brunson, most

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<v Speaker 4>guys they like going to their offhand to pull up

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<v Speaker 4>for they jumps out because you can square up a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit better. He got you going left like you thought,

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<v Speaker 4>Oh he's a strong left guy. He was setting them up.

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<v Speaker 4>He said it, Thompson up, I'm coming right back over

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<v Speaker 4>here to what I want to knock down this three.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's just it's just a process that you go

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<v Speaker 4>through each and every day, and you watch him. He

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<v Speaker 4>is so good at manipulating the defense. He can get

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<v Speaker 4>you on your hip and then he can cost the

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<v Speaker 4>contact or he can get you. He can he can

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<v Speaker 4>gauge your speed if you're going too fast, he stops

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<v Speaker 4>on the diamond, pulls up, and I think for him

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<v Speaker 4>and any any guy who's playing this game long enough.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't think about it. You just do it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just a second nation, second nature thing to you. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>You just you just enjoyed the moment and you just

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<v Speaker 2>hope that you make that month. So you can talk

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of shit.

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<v Speaker 1>He does a great job rob as you mentioned, but

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<v Speaker 1>he gets his body in such a position to shoot

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<v Speaker 1>that shot because like you said, he's a left handed player,

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<v Speaker 1>and most left handed players are left hand dominant. They're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get to that left side. They want to

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<v Speaker 1>go left. He did that and then if you notice

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<v Speaker 1>he stepped back and squared himself and let it go.

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<v Speaker 2>He hit a shrewter. He got an and one on shooter,

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<v Speaker 2>and he got a tough step back.

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<v Speaker 1>He I mean the way he can like get his

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<v Speaker 1>body in position to take and make tough shots.

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<v Speaker 2>For a guy his size. He is not a big guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean his body. I mean, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>He's you know, he got a little little gird to him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he got some but he's what you think

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<v Speaker 1>six foot. I think he's about six six one hit that,

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<v Speaker 1>but his ability and he's stronger than you think for

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<v Speaker 1>a guy his size, because the way he can like

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<v Speaker 1>put that that sholder in your chest and get and

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<v Speaker 1>get that shot off, float on square himself in the

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<v Speaker 1>knock these shots down.

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<v Speaker 2>He was sensatial.

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<v Speaker 1>They couldn't buy a basket for the first nine ten

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<v Speaker 1>minutes of the ball game, and then all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden he said, man, just give me the ball. What

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<v Speaker 1>y'all doing? And every shot that needed to be taken

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<v Speaker 1>and made. Now they got a huge tip in by

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<v Speaker 1>bridge and somebody missed the shot and they didn't block

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<v Speaker 1>out the bridges got the tip that tied it up.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, once they missed that shot, said, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all better get this ball. Because Thompson had just made

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<v Speaker 1>a great defensive play up like two possessions earlier, he

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<v Speaker 1>got a shot clock violation on the copy. He went

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<v Speaker 1>to go up and he stripped him with the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, yeah, Russell, I got something for you.

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<v Speaker 5>Hold, I got a question you for for rob Man

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<v Speaker 5>for you and Unk right, is as great as Jalen

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<v Speaker 5>Brunson was in this series, as great as he's been

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<v Speaker 5>obviously being a very very clutch player.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell, he's just one NBA CUSS Player of the Year right.

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<v Speaker 5>On this offensive prow tonight with forty, Is there any

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<v Speaker 5>chance y'all give me the Knicks and in this series

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<v Speaker 5>against the Celtics, any chance?

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 4>And the reason I say no is because when you

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<v Speaker 4>look at the Celtics, they got six guys that can score,

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<v Speaker 4>and every time I look at the Nicks, they.

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<v Speaker 2>Remind me of Ai.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, they got this one guy that does all

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<v Speaker 4>the scoring and everybody else does two or three things

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<v Speaker 4>really really good. To make that pie hole and do

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<v Speaker 4>you take out Bridge? It's one of my favorite players

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<v Speaker 4>when they use him and he's able to score. They're

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<v Speaker 4>a totally different team. But I just think the Celtics

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<v Speaker 4>has too much firepower. And one of the things they

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<v Speaker 4>don't talk about what the Celtics is.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at them.

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<v Speaker 4>They got four good defensive players out there in that court,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and that's and and we don't talk about

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<v Speaker 4>that because we so caught up.

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<v Speaker 2>In all the threes they do.

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<v Speaker 4>But you think about, you know, White, Holiday, even Brown,

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<v Speaker 4>these guys are fucking good defense. And so they got

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<v Speaker 4>bodies to throw at Bronson a little short down and

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<v Speaker 4>so that's gonna be hard. And you know, going back

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<v Speaker 4>to Brunton, the one thing that makes him really good

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<v Speaker 4>is this is gonna sound really crazy, is left handed

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<v Speaker 4>players are always uh and have that ability to get

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<v Speaker 4>to the line and do things because you cannot use that.

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<v Speaker 4>You holler every run across a left pended player. You

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<v Speaker 4>think about Mono, do you know we're gonna play with

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<v Speaker 4>He was so good because you think he's about to

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<v Speaker 4>do someone is right here, like, oh shit, he's left handed.

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<v Speaker 4>And by the time you think about it, he donna

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<v Speaker 4>change you up. And because it's just not what you

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<v Speaker 4>use is uncommon. But I just think he I think

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<v Speaker 4>the Knicks might win one game because they play hard,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think overall, I just think the Celtic, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's gonna be a gentleman, sweet man. I just think

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<v Speaker 4>that if the Celtics stay healthy. But you know they

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<v Speaker 4>they've been getting a little banged up in there. But

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<v Speaker 4>I just think the Celtics are too good. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 4>when you look at it, think about what they go.

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<v Speaker 4>They got Derrick White that can defend. They got Holliday

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<v Speaker 4>that can defend. They got JB that can defend.

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<v Speaker 1>They got bigger A Horford that can defend, Porzingis can

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<v Speaker 1>protect the paint. And then they bring Pritchard off the

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<v Speaker 1>bench that can score, House that can call cornet, that

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<v Speaker 1>can that can give you a little rebound. Me. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're loaded. You we know j T can defend it

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<v Speaker 1>if you have to, but he can score. JD can score,

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<v Speaker 1>Derrick White can score. They got scores, and they got defenders.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're always going to have at bare minimum to

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<v Speaker 1>quality defenders on the court at all times. And so

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<v Speaker 1>when you have that, when you got two guys that

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<v Speaker 1>can defend. But look what they start with. So if

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<v Speaker 1>they start Holiday, you got Holiday, Derrick White, JP Al Horford.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I'm gonna tell you this.

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<v Speaker 5>I liked the Nickson winning at least three games. I

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<v Speaker 5>got win three games. I mean, hey, Raw, you want

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<v Speaker 5>to you want to, you want to best some on it.

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<v Speaker 5>You want to throw a little throw ways on them?

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<v Speaker 5>Said make it light of yourself. Bet fifty two hundred.

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<v Speaker 5>That's very specific, right he said, yeah, tell you try.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure I hold them fifty two hundred. So I'm

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<v Speaker 5>just trying to I'm trying to make it up some

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<v Speaker 5>other kind of way and trying to break you.

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<v Speaker 2>Rob. I' let me ask you this, of all the

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<v Speaker 2>game winners that you hit, what's your favorite one? Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>Lakers against the jay Kings with the ball came by

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<v Speaker 2>that game without a game double game cepl and it

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<v Speaker 2>was game four four. You know, we lose that game,

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<v Speaker 2>we go down three to one.

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<v Speaker 4>And the reason is my favorite because if you look

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<v Speaker 4>at most of my game winners, they've all done on

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<v Speaker 4>the road, and so this one was done at home.

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<v Speaker 2>And you got a chance to rejoice with the crowd. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I got it.

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<v Speaker 4>I grew up a huge Lakers fan, man, I grew

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<v Speaker 4>up a big Magic Johnson fan. You know you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>never being a Laker. You used to them chanting Kobe,

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<v Speaker 4>Kobe or shot. You know, when you get a chance

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<v Speaker 4>to knock down a big three and you get him

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<v Speaker 4>chant your name like that, man, it's the best feeling ever.

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<v Speaker 4>I think for me, it's probably outside of Kobe's last game,

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<v Speaker 4>is the greatest moment in Statele Slash Crypto. And if

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<v Speaker 4>you every time I see the shot from above and

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<v Speaker 4>when I'm making and the crowd just jumps up and cheers,

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<v Speaker 4>I get goosebunt every time I see it. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>even though I love what I did in two thousand

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<v Speaker 4>and five against the Pistons in game fire, when I.

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<v Speaker 2>Lit as yeah, that's what I was.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I was thinking, Yeah, yeah, yeah, But you

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<v Speaker 4>know it's something you know, we as an athlete, we

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<v Speaker 4>all got that ego, we all got that pride.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna hit them fans chant your name. But I

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<v Speaker 2>tell you what, I only have like one picture up.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even have that shot up in my house,

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<v Speaker 4>but I do have the picture of me making that

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<v Speaker 4>shot against the Pistols because I just like looking at

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<v Speaker 4>the faces of the people in the crowd.

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<v Speaker 2>You got some people like you know, and you got

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<v Speaker 2>one guy him in the crowd and it's like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because he knew it was going in people.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if people realize this, Rob, but before

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<v Speaker 1>those black danjurs, you are hot flower.

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<v Speaker 2>You was ever. I mean you was punching on folks.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you are hope, over the top. People look

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<v Speaker 2>at you and they're like, man, all they did was

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<v Speaker 2>you threes no no, no, no no. When you came in.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know what it is about them,

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<v Speaker 1>the Alabama guys, you and make nice. All the guys

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<v Speaker 1>had up up of people. And I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>people realize that, but you wore a hot flower, a

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen guy that finished above the rim. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>turned yourself. I think it was the back injury that

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<v Speaker 1>you turned yourself in more of a shooter. You still

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<v Speaker 1>could punch your folks, but not like you could when

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<v Speaker 1>you first got the houst.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, it's so weird when you coming to lead

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<v Speaker 2>funny stories.

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<v Speaker 4>Like my middle son, he came to me one time, like, Daddy,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't ever dunk anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't even dunk.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's that one dunk in the playoffs against the

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<v Speaker 4>Detroit Pistons that I dunked on Rep.

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<v Speaker 2>Hamilton. I took out outside the think and I said, see,

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<v Speaker 2>your dad can still dunk. I just don't have to.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, the weird part about it is when

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<v Speaker 4>I got to the Lakers, they was like, oh, we

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<v Speaker 4>don't want you to, you know, they say, we need

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<v Speaker 4>you just spot up. And the worst thing as an athlete,

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<v Speaker 4>if any athletes listening, is don't let coaches limit to

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<v Speaker 4>limit you and what you can do. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>you know this day and age is a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 4>Back then, it was a little bit more I need

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<v Speaker 4>to do this, this and this, and so in my

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<v Speaker 4>mind became okay, this is what they want me to do,

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<v Speaker 4>spot up and shoot threes and all this concept.

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<v Speaker 2>But I I showed my my my youngest son, Christian,

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<v Speaker 2>who's that you said? Last?

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<v Speaker 4>Let me show you something, man, Come sit down and

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<v Speaker 4>I'll show them my highlights. I mean rockets when I

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<v Speaker 4>used to dunk. He looked at me like, damn, you

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<v Speaker 4>had houps. It's like, yeah, I just stopped doing it

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<v Speaker 4>because they didn't want. I didn't have room to do

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<v Speaker 4>it because Shaq.

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<v Speaker 2>Was in the dad.

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<v Speaker 5>That's dope, that's lie. Hey, hey, Rob, with some of

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<v Speaker 5>those some of those clutch shots you hit, were you

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<v Speaker 5>ever did you ever keep any of the balls or

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<v Speaker 5>especially especially Man, I mean, you got some really, really

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<v Speaker 5>really good moments, and for me, I would want to

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<v Speaker 5>keep those.

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<v Speaker 2>I would I personally want to keep those balls. You

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<v Speaker 2>know you don't have any, you know, I really I have.

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<v Speaker 2>I have. I have one from it's actually the Game

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<v Speaker 2>seven ball against the Knicks.

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<v Speaker 4>I have that. And the only reason I have that

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<v Speaker 4>because I told the guy said, because the first two

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<v Speaker 4>points of Game seven was me dunking on bad you

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like.

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<v Speaker 2>I want that ball. I want that ball.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have that ball.

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<v Speaker 4>And I wish I had the one I made against

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<v Speaker 4>the Kings, because shit, if I lost it, if I

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<v Speaker 4>bett you and lost, I just sell that and give

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<v Speaker 4>me a lot of money to cover that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know these Laker fans who loved that, well.

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<v Speaker 5>Speaking of you talking about balls and being able to

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<v Speaker 5>sell the ball and get you a lot of money. Listen,

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<v Speaker 5>I got a prize possession, That's what I'm gonna say.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm supposed to have it inclosed in the case, right,

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<v Speaker 5>But I got the game ball when Lebron hit his

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<v Speaker 5>fiftieth point fifty thousand, Like, listen, fifty thousand points, and

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<v Speaker 5>that's something that you would think he would.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep sure sure to see. Huh.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So it's a fifty thousand point ball right now,

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<v Speaker 5>you see twenty thousand point and Lebron signed the.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So if I haven't falling on hard times, man,

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<v Speaker 2>this is gonna come in handy. Do you fall on

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<v Speaker 2>hard time to try to sell that ball? You gonna

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<v Speaker 2>stay on hard times? Exactly? You, Hey, you might real

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<v Speaker 2>hard times.

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Papavich stepped out of the coach at the San

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<v Speaker 1>Antonio First today, ending a nearly three decade run that

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<v Speaker 1>saw him lead the team to five championships. He's the

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<v Speaker 1>all time winning his coach at NBA history, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>a three time Coach of the Year, and he's a

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame going a gold medal, and he's inducted

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<v Speaker 1>to the Basketball Hall of Fame. Rob, you played for Pop?

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<v Speaker 1>What what was it about Pop that made him special?

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<v Speaker 1>What was your what's going to be your lasting memory

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<v Speaker 1>of playing for Pop?

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<v Speaker 4>I think for me, it's just his how genuine he was,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, he he was one of those coaches

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<v Speaker 4>where he's one of those coaches where he had yelled

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<v Speaker 4>at you and then take you to have some nochi

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<v Speaker 4>and someone in those two favorite things.

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<v Speaker 2>And and for me, I think I tell this story

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<v Speaker 2>all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>The one thing that really made me fall in love

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<v Speaker 4>with the guy was my daughter who passed away, was

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<v Speaker 4>really sick my last ship with the Spurs, and she

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<v Speaker 4>went into the hospital at the beginning of the season

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<v Speaker 4>and he was like, don't don't come back until she's

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<v Speaker 4>out of the hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>And I sat in the hospital with.

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<v Speaker 4>Her for like three weeks and then she probably got

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<v Speaker 4>out of the hospital and I came at like a

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<v Speaker 4>day after. He says, she out a hospital. Like, yees,

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<v Speaker 4>she got home like two days ago, he said, she

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<v Speaker 4>and out of the woods. Yet get back, go back home.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we don't really need you right now. And

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<v Speaker 4>I looked at him, like, are you trying to get

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<v Speaker 4>rid of me off on the spot? He said, no, Man,

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<v Speaker 4>family first, you know, family first, And that's what That's

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<v Speaker 4>how Pop always was.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. You know, I just heard the day about the

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<v Speaker 2>story of the Martow Rose on his past and now.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like and that goes to show you, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>there's some things bigger than a freaking game right, and

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<v Speaker 4>Pop realized that. You know, he was always about, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>spending time with your family, doing what's important. And I

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<v Speaker 4>remember even my last year, I went to him and

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, you know, I'm want to ask the

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<v Speaker 4>fairy like what I said.

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<v Speaker 2>It's my last year. I said, can I and my

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<v Speaker 2>son's on spring break? We're going on a road trip.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I bring my son with me?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't even ask you no question like that.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, it's you know, it's it's it's about the family.

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<v Speaker 4>It's about doing things, and a lot of teams wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>let you do that. You know, it's because I remember

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<v Speaker 4>remember the Lakers back and the day you say he

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<v Speaker 4>can't get the flight back now lid Bill, you know

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<v Speaker 4>insurance thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what is this a flight hole on what?

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<v Speaker 3>So?

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<v Speaker 4>But pot was he's he was really really good about man,

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<v Speaker 4>if it came down to your family, you do whatever

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<v Speaker 4>it's necessary for your family.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody talks about the relationship that they had with Duncan

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<v Speaker 1>because I think Duncan was the main being because you

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<v Speaker 1>could coach him Duncan hard. You can coach everybody else hard.

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<v Speaker 1>And Timmy was receptive and that's what you have.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom.

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<v Speaker 1>Timmy was one of these superstars that if you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>watch the game, you would never know he was a superstar.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't dress like a superstar. Hell I remember you

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<v Speaker 1>showed up what to pick up an m v P

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<v Speaker 1>trop with flip flops his shorts.

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<v Speaker 2>So David Sturn David what wan to swing on Timmy?

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<v Speaker 2>Head on George? Yeah, head on, jeans short George. David

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<v Speaker 2>Stern like, hey, but that was Timmy.

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<v Speaker 1>What what wasn't about Coach Pop and Tim's relationship that

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<v Speaker 1>made it so unique and special.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we're gonna back this up a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>because you really have to credit David Ranks because you

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<v Speaker 4>think about he had David Robinson when Tim came and

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<v Speaker 4>David was like, Yo, this is what we do here,

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<v Speaker 4>and Tim just follow suit. You know, Tim is just

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<v Speaker 4>that type of guy. He doesn't say much.

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<v Speaker 2>You can talk.

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<v Speaker 4>If you talk about cars, he'll talk to you talk

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<v Speaker 4>about video games. He'll talk to you talk about poke

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<v Speaker 4>with those three things and he'll talk about that. He

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<v Speaker 4>a't gonna really talk to you for us. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>it took me a year just to get him say

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of words to me, and but he is

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<v Speaker 4>just a he. He is a type of guy who's

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<v Speaker 4>really focused. We don't, you know, we always talk about

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<v Speaker 4>Code's worker. I think we talked about it, But this

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<v Speaker 4>dude was always in the gym shooting jump shots. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm always trying to get to perfect that bank shot.

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<v Speaker 2>If you know.

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<v Speaker 4>He was famous for shooting a lot of free throws

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<v Speaker 4>because you know he that was one of his is

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<v Speaker 4>his downfall?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And he just he worked hard.

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<v Speaker 4>But he was just he If you talk about guys

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<v Speaker 4>who you know, I used to I had to get

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<v Speaker 4>on to him one time, like, dude, can you fucking

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<v Speaker 4>yell at somebody?

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<v Speaker 2>Man, you sitting over there like with your mouth closed.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you yell at someone, you're gonna be like, yeah, pudding,

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<v Speaker 4>everybody's gonna perk up and listen.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was just he was very mild many way.

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<v Speaker 2>He's mild. Mind. He didn't want to say much.

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<v Speaker 4>But the guy was he competed and he was and

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<v Speaker 4>when he when he led you into his world, one

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<v Speaker 4>of the nicest guys you'll meet.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned the Twin Towers because David Robinson was there.

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<v Speaker 1>But when David was there, I mean they Wondam Championship

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<v Speaker 1>with David, but David was on the tail end of

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<v Speaker 1>his career. That was that was I mean, basically Tim

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<v Speaker 1>Dunkett team from the time he walked in the door.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh he was just that good.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was one of the last guys that was

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<v Speaker 1>a true senior that was the number one overall. Kenya

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<v Speaker 1>Martin was the last one, I think in two thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>but Timmy was what ninety eight. I think the ninety

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<v Speaker 1>eight draft was Timmy's first year, but he was the last,

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<v Speaker 1>the last of those guys that he went four years

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<v Speaker 1>of college and came out. So he was more than ready,

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<v Speaker 1>more than prepared for the grind because basically he was

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<v Speaker 1>a grown man when he wasn't eighteen, he wasn't seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>Tim Duggan was a twenty two year old grown man

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<v Speaker 2>when he got to the NBA.

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<v Speaker 4>So you tell me something I did not know. I

0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:19.880
<v Speaker 4>thought he came out earlier. You just so you say

0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:23.000
<v Speaker 4>everybody coming down early, you know, thinking about and that's

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<v Speaker 4>the one thing that I hated about the NBA. I know,

0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:28.440
<v Speaker 4>these dudes are freaking twenty one when they get to

0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:32.359
<v Speaker 4>college now, but I just wish that that that that

0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:35.159
<v Speaker 4>I was about to say, David Stern that Adam Silbell

0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:38.520
<v Speaker 4>put like two years onto it. Because these guys. You

0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:40.480
<v Speaker 4>can tell by the way these guys play. Now, that's

0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:42.720
<v Speaker 4>why so many threes are being shot, because they don't

0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:45.000
<v Speaker 4>know how to play. They're doing what's easy. It's taking

0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:47.000
<v Speaker 4>the threes in the learning the game. You know, you

0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:48.840
<v Speaker 4>got some guys that are gonna come in the league

0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:50.440
<v Speaker 4>that know how to play the game because of the

0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:53.600
<v Speaker 4>upbringing and how they were taught. But it's just it's

0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.040
<v Speaker 4>just it's just a lot of bad basketball being played

0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:57.680
<v Speaker 4>because guys don't know how to play. You know, you

0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:01.679
<v Speaker 4>think about tonight washing game, Like, dude, the first thing

0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:03.440
<v Speaker 4>you learn in high school and college is how to

0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:04.240
<v Speaker 4>beat the damn zone.

0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Right, the zone is the easiest freaking thing to beat.

0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:07.840
<v Speaker 2>And you can't beat the zone.

0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:09.680
<v Speaker 4>It's like go to the Oprah spots, go to the

0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:12.240
<v Speaker 4>dunker spot, go back door, and it just shows you

0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:14.600
<v Speaker 4>right there that the guys aren't learning anything because they're

0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:15.960
<v Speaker 4>all just trying to, you know, get to the next

0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:17.480
<v Speaker 4>level to the league without learning something.

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<v Speaker 1>Rob you played with some of the greats. I mean,

0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:22.320
<v Speaker 1>you was on a team with him, Duncan. You was

0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:23.600
<v Speaker 1>on a team with Shaq and Kobe.

0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:25.960
<v Speaker 2>You was on the King with a lot Dream and Drexler,

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<v Speaker 2>And I know people ask you what the difference.

0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Between Dream and Duncan, the difference between Duncan and Shaq,

0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:37.320
<v Speaker 1>the difference between Clyde and Kobe. What are some of

0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:39.639
<v Speaker 1>the different look because look, all of those guys that

0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I just mentioned are all the seventy five greatest players

0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:47.600
<v Speaker 1>in the NBA history, MVP's Finals, MVPs, Defensive.

0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Players of the Year.

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<v Speaker 1>When you got when you got to the Rockets, what

0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:53.600
<v Speaker 1>was it about the Dream that you know, okay and

0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:54.359
<v Speaker 1>this got special?

0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:57.200
<v Speaker 2>What set them apart? Shit?

0:21:57.200 --> 0:22:00.119
<v Speaker 4>I knew Dream was special when I watched them in

0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:03.040
<v Speaker 4>college because when I when I was coming out, I said,

0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:04.920
<v Speaker 4>I want to play alongside this guy. You know, I

0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:06.960
<v Speaker 4>was praying that I went to the Rockets and the

0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:09.439
<v Speaker 4>guy was and I did because you could just see

0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:12.920
<v Speaker 4>his work as you know you watched him. You know,

0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:16.400
<v Speaker 4>guys always talking about going into the lab. Dream would

0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:18.000
<v Speaker 4>be in the lab and we didn't even know it.

0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:20.600
<v Speaker 4>He would be working on stuff and then he'll just

0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:22.320
<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden in the game. You know, you

0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:24.880
<v Speaker 4>think about ninety five high annihilated David.

0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:26.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because he said they took the game. Is it

0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:29.640
<v Speaker 2>took his the MVP from him? Yeah, all that stuff

0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:31.679
<v Speaker 2>we had never seen before. You should have seen us

0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:32.080
<v Speaker 2>on the court.

0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:35.760
<v Speaker 4>We're going like, oh, we became fans on the court, right,

0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:38.560
<v Speaker 4>And so he just and you watch him, man, he

0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:39.600
<v Speaker 4>just played hard.

0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:39.879
<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>You think about you know, back in the day when

0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:44.399
<v Speaker 4>he you forget he used a knock some people out.

0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you know, he had that toughness. You know,

0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:47.800
<v Speaker 2>you help on him.

0:22:47.880 --> 0:22:50.480
<v Speaker 4>He would he was because only a fifty dollars finals,

0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:52.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, puts him in the face. And so he

0:22:52.640 --> 0:22:55.200
<v Speaker 4>had that toughness and he just had that. The one

0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:59.240
<v Speaker 4>thing about Dream, though, is we talk about how hard

0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:02.320
<v Speaker 4>guys players like, and how hard Yannis plays, how hard

0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:05.840
<v Speaker 4>Bronson places, how hard he's got Dream play hard each

0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:09.560
<v Speaker 4>and every night. And you know, people would talk about

0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:11.960
<v Speaker 4>who's the greatest center, who's this, who's that.

0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Dream to me is always gonna be top three centers. Wow.

0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Because if he needed to shoot threes, he could have

0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:18.440
<v Speaker 2>shot threes.

0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:20.680
<v Speaker 4>He didn't because he had us out there and you

0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:22.640
<v Speaker 4>couldn't stop him in the paint any damn way.

0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:24.080
<v Speaker 2>So he just gonna keep you that way.

0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 4>So he was just you know, he was just a

0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:30.320
<v Speaker 4>hard worker and the more important, great guy because he

0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:33.560
<v Speaker 4>taught me about the business of basketball. He was like, yo,

0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:35.840
<v Speaker 4>I remember one time at a Christmas part he took

0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:38.680
<v Speaker 4>me outside. I said, listen, you're gonna be on this team.

0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:41.880
<v Speaker 4>Now let's talk about, you know, things outside of basketball.

0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:44.720
<v Speaker 4>What you're doing with your money. You know, how's the family,

0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:47.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, are you investing, do you have the right people?

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:48.400
<v Speaker 2>He was just a good guy.

0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:50.479
<v Speaker 4>You know, a lot of guys now you know, they

0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:52.520
<v Speaker 4>won't they won't come to you and be like, yo, man,

0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:55.119
<v Speaker 4>you need to check your find that you need to

0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:55.359
<v Speaker 4>do this.

0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:57.320
<v Speaker 2>They like, fuck you. I learned it on my own.

0:23:57.359 --> 0:23:59.040
<v Speaker 4>You on your own, and so I just that's one

0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:00.960
<v Speaker 4>of the things I love about you. And he taught

0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:03.520
<v Speaker 4>me about the business of basketball. So you leave Houston

0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:05.680
<v Speaker 4>and you go to the let well you know you

0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:07.760
<v Speaker 4>have you didn't go right to you got to go there?

0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Huh, no, you have. You got to talk about the

0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:10.239
<v Speaker 2>fins man.

0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Start you have a little bit and started saying, and Peter,

0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:15.960
<v Speaker 1>you you have a couple of coffee at the airport.

0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:19.639
<v Speaker 2>He got right back on the player. He went to

0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:21.920
<v Speaker 2>l A So you get to l A shock and

0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:27.280
<v Speaker 2>Kobe what you're like? Dam N? Got shocked? Got Kobe?

0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:27.760
<v Speaker 4>What?

0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:28.000
<v Speaker 3>What?

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:30.640
<v Speaker 2>What y'all need to be to do? Yeah?

0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:32.440
<v Speaker 4>You know what's weird? When I got there, man, I'm

0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:34.159
<v Speaker 4>looking at the team. We had Nick ban X at

0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 4>the yelling, we had Eddie Jones at the two. I said, okay,

0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:39.920
<v Speaker 4>I can play the three. You know, back then I

0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 4>was the man, and I said, we got a young

0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:43.639
<v Speaker 4>guy like this. You know, everybody's like, oh, you got

0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:44.960
<v Speaker 4>to see this rookie Kobe Bryan.

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:45.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, who.

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:47.639
<v Speaker 4>And then you get to the practice you see how

0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 4>good this dude is. Okay, he's learning, and then you

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:52.600
<v Speaker 4>got shocked. You know, you say, okay, Shaq just got

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:55.200
<v Speaker 4>beaten ninety five in the finals, and you got all

0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 4>this talent. I said, oh man, we got to do

0:24:57.000 --> 0:24:58.840
<v Speaker 4>some work. I said, We're gonna do some work for

0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:03.480
<v Speaker 4>some years. Because everybody young, everybody's under thirty. But sometimes

0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:05.480
<v Speaker 4>it goes to show you too many cooks in the

0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:08.480
<v Speaker 4>kitchen when it comes to basketball ain't good. You gotta

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:10.680
<v Speaker 4>have some guys that are blue guys, some screw guys,

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:12.720
<v Speaker 4>you know, some boats and and do the things to

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:13.720
<v Speaker 4>keep the team together.

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 2>And you think about we had four All stars. Yeah,

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:19.159
<v Speaker 2>and then we got swept by a damn team that

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:22.800
<v Speaker 2>has been together for thirty years. That was Kobe's rookie year,

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 2>wasn't it. That was Kobe's rookie year. Yeah, yep.

0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:28.639
<v Speaker 4>And then and then and then ninety nine, you know,

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 4>we got beat We got beat by the Spurs, lost

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:34.240
<v Speaker 4>the last game in the Forum to the Spurs. And

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:36.399
<v Speaker 4>then that was when we got new coaches, and we

0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:38.560
<v Speaker 4>said we got rid of Nick, we got rid of Eddie,

0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:41.119
<v Speaker 4>and we bought in defensive minded people. You know. He

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:43.480
<v Speaker 4>brought in Ron Harper, We bought in b Shaw, we

0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:45.480
<v Speaker 4>bought in Rick Fox, We did all these things, brought

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:46.080
<v Speaker 4>in a C.

0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Green And it was that Glue who was whole grand

0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:50.960
<v Speaker 1>there did a whole great only came for the last

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 1>hope Hope.

0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:54.480
<v Speaker 4>Grant was on the second championship in two thousand and

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:57.200
<v Speaker 4>two thousand and one. Yeah, so, and it was just weird, man.

0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:59.159
<v Speaker 4>You just and it goes to show you when you

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 4>got too much talent, it's hard to get in the way.

0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:04.280
<v Speaker 4>But when you've got when you got enough talent and

0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:07.199
<v Speaker 4>you got guys who mature, and you can you can

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 4>tell Kobe and Shot to shut up and sit you.

0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:11.119
<v Speaker 2>Ass down and do what you're supposed to do, and

0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:12.920
<v Speaker 2>they gonna they gonna, you think about it.

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:15.920
<v Speaker 4>We used to tell Kobe, all, dude, you ain't doing

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:18.240
<v Speaker 4>that tonight, A Shack, you ain't doing that, and they

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 4>would listen to us because we are veteran guys.

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 2>You know. Now you got this going on.

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:25.200
<v Speaker 4>Guys you know, respect us and we had a lot

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 4>of respect for one another, and it was no animosity.

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:30.399
<v Speaker 4>And people always ask me about the Kobe Shack thing.

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:33.480
<v Speaker 4>I was like, man, I must have been fucking blinded,

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:36.600
<v Speaker 4>because they never had beef in front of us. It

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:39.040
<v Speaker 4>was all in the papers man, you know, And that

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:41.240
<v Speaker 4>was the weirdest thing. When people like, we'll talk about it,

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm like they in the locker room, laughing and joking.

0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 4>They the first people to hug after a championship. I know,

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:49.680
<v Speaker 4>you tell me you you want a championship. Who was

0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:51.679
<v Speaker 4>the first person you hung, you hugged after you want

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:54.120
<v Speaker 4>to champion? It's probably your favorite player on the team.

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 4>And so that's why I was like men's arriving, they

0:26:57.560 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 4>would say, oh, they're beef and I'm like, man, where

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:01.960
<v Speaker 4>it was just weird to me? How good was Shaq?

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:03.960
<v Speaker 1>You look at Shack and I tell people, I would

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:06.719
<v Speaker 1>think people realize how athletic Shock was when Shaq got

0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:08.920
<v Speaker 1>to the league, like Shaq first five or six years,

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:12.159
<v Speaker 1>when Shaq was like seven one three twenty five and

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:14.120
<v Speaker 1>can move like a dear. We'll never go to see

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 1>that again. You never go to see a guy his

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:17.920
<v Speaker 1>signs with that kind ofigility.

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:18.959
<v Speaker 2>You're just not Now.

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>You might have a like a yoh, he's got the footwork,

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:23.440
<v Speaker 1>and Joel of me got footwork, but I'm talking about

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 1>just raw athleticism and power.

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 2>You never phil O'Neil again, never, ye never.

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:32.719
<v Speaker 4>You know, you think about if you always tell if

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 4>you start a team, if I could take the two thousand,

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 4>the nineteen nine nine, two thousand Shock, the MVP Shack

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 4>and have him that Shack and put him on, that's

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 4>my first person, Not Jordan, not Dream, not Daream.

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 2>That's the first person I'm picked to start my line.

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 4>If I can get that Shack because he was just

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 4>so dominant, he was just so strong, so athletic. You

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:55.640
<v Speaker 4>thinking about this, this guy can bring the ball down

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 4>across your spin, take off from outside the paint, then

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 4>monkey dunk on your ask and then you could do

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, and you go back and look at a

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:08.120
<v Speaker 4>lot of tape. And I've heard this out of refs mouth.

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 4>So I'm sitting there. You can hear all you is

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 4>on him and he's not getting the call. They're like, oh,

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:14.680
<v Speaker 4>he's too big, he should be able to handle that.

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:17.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, dude, it's a freaking file. He's slapping his show.

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 4>Y'all said, all right, y'all, gonna piss him off, and

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:20.760
<v Speaker 4>then I'm gonna get out of way be cause he's

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:23.159
<v Speaker 4>gonna start an elbowing and you can tell when he

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 4>got frustrated because he'll do that.

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 2>He don't care who he is. I'm like, so yeah,

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 2>he was.

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:36.879
<v Speaker 4>He was like I said, if you got one player,

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 4>one moment, I'm taking nineteen ninety nine, two thousand shock

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 4>and I'm starting the team with that guy.

0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 2>If I can get that guy each and every night.

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Kobe, Kobe, if a seventeen he gets there seventeen.

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Now by the time they start to win championships, he's

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 1>the Kobe. He's he's become what he became and you

0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 1>get to see it on full display. He could still

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 1>elevate over the top. He got the minute, he could up.

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh he had, he had the package. And if you

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 1>need him to sit in the chair for forty minutes

0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 1>and take the opposing team to point two three, I

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>got it.

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, he and he wanted that challenge. And you know, you,

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, I know you think Lebron is the greatest

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 4>of all time. And you people talk about, uh MJ

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 4>being the greatest of all time. Why don't you think

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 4>you when you watch Kobe Bryant, he did every freaking

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 4>thing like MJ. And he probably took it to another

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 4>level because Kobe. You know, when Kobe first came in

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 4>the league, we used to laugh and joke him, like

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 4>you can't shoot threes?

0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 2>He just shoot threes like MJ. But he we would

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<v Speaker 2>like joke with him.

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<v Speaker 4>So that dude being in the gym every morning at

0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 4>five o'clock shooting number threes and now he can shoot threes.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's things like that that why he was great.

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<v Speaker 4>You could tell him he was not good at something,

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<v Speaker 4>he would prove you wrong by going in and working

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<v Speaker 4>on it and added to his game.

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<v Speaker 2>This dude.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, God rest his soul. Was the hardest working

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 4>dude I've ever seen in my life. And you think

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<v Speaker 4>about where he went from his rookie year where he

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 4>just played. Wow, you know, he didn't have no structure

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 4>to his game to understanding that. Oh I got to

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 4>tone this down. And I don't know if it's because

0:30:19.720 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 4>he talked to MJ and talked to Field whatnot, but

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 4>when he got filled, it made him more.

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<v Speaker 2>Structure than I've ever seen before. So the dude was

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<v Speaker 2>just phenomenal. Man.

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<v Speaker 4>So I hate when we talk about the goat and

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 4>we never bring him up, like because it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>to me, the goats are MJ, Kobe, Lebron, and Kareem.

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 4>Those are the goats. And why do we have to

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<v Speaker 4>put one, one, two, one, three and four those four

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 4>guys right there? Why great camps? Just four ghosts? That's

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:50.720
<v Speaker 4>the amount rushmore right there?

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Why Why didn't playing on that team alongside Shaq and Kobe?

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Why didn't they win more individual MVPs? Kobe didn't win

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 1>one until later late in like two thousand one, I

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 1>think two thousand out of two thousand and ten, he

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 1>won the MVP. Why didn't they win. If why didn't

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Shaq win more MVPs? Why didn't Kobe win MVPs? Did

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>they cancel each other out? I don't think they counted

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 1>each other.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think, you know, if you if you look

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 4>at the league back then, it was hard to win

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:21.959
<v Speaker 4>back to backs unless she was a white guy name

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:22.600
<v Speaker 4>Steve Nash.

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 2>So you know, you think about that second Steve.

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Nash, I should have won that in Miami for real though,

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 1>So it's so many things you can look at it.

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 2>It's just weird.

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:33.480
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 2>You think about MJ when he was in the league.

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 2>He didn't win it.

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<v Speaker 4>Every year, you know, it's always someone different, And like

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 4>you think about this year, even though Joki is having

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 4>the best freaking career, best year of his career, he

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 4>probably give it to Shape, you know, And and it's

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 4>just how they do it. And I don't know why,

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 4>but I think Kobe should probably run at least three,

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 4>Shack should run at least I should Shack shuld run

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 4>at least two. You know, I think I say, the

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 4>year he wanted, he should have won it, and then

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 4>the following year he should have won it.

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Other than that, I think, you know, because you think

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 4>about his third year, my third championship, he wasn't as

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 4>dominant as he was. He was still effective, he just

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 4>didn't bring that you think about it, he wasn't the

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 4>shack before that, and that's what they based off. They

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 4>always say, Okay, we're gonna take your last year. What

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 4>did you do better than that year? And I think

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 4>he was just consistent. He never like went up a

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 4>little bit to another level.

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Uh. Jim Duncan, Jim Duncan had one of the great games.

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 1>He had a damn near quadruple double. He was two

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 1>blocks away from a quadruple double in an NBA Finals

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 1>game when he played when he played the Nets, uh

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 1>that year, he had twenty one points, twenty refound Channa

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 1>fis and eight blocks.

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was a nets man in nets we had

0:32:58.120 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 2>just swear and just swept.

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<v Speaker 4>The next year before what that or whatever it wasn't

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 4>next was like, you know, poor poor j Skied Richard Jefferson,

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 4>that crew. You know, you were the beast in the East.

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 4>But when it came to playing the teams used to

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 4>wear it. He was just like, you like the legs

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 4>and the clippers, You're just a little brother.

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:14.360
<v Speaker 2>So it was it was.

0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 4>They made it a good challenge. But if you go

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 4>back and look at the East back then East was terrible. Man,

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 4>they was god awful and so but Tim duncan though.

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 4>That goes to show you when he wants to take over,

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 4>he can take over man. He And the one thing

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 4>I like about Tim when he comes to blocking shots,

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 4>he didn't care if you dunked them here, Like, shit,

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't care. I don't have social media, I don't

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 4>care what you say. You know, people in San Antonio

0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 4>gonna still about down to me. And you know most

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 4>guys were shot away from trying to, you know, go

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 4>up against the Venice car think you might get dunked on.

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 2>They're like, no, I ain't challenging that. Tim didn't give

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 2>a shit.

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 4>He would try to challenge you anywhere to block it

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 4>because he knew nine times out of ten he was

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 4>gonna block.

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 1>It and it's gonna start a fast break. All right,

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 1>you're Mount rushmore teammates. You get four teammates on Mount rush,

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Well who you go with?

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Dream Shaq, Kobe Clyde took cloud over Timmy.

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 4>You know what, this is the one of the things.

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 4>You know, I love Timmy, but I'm going with Clyde Clyde,

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 4>my boy dad. You know, sometimes personal feelings get in

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 4>the way. Hey, I'm doing the Steve Kurr right now.

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm putting you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, but you know, people don't. I think people forget

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 2>how good Cloud was.

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:32.000
<v Speaker 4>Man.

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 1>He took a kind of a back seat roll when

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 1>he got to Houston. But but but Hortle Clyde Clyde,

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:42.279
<v Speaker 1>I remember him. I remember what he was dunking on

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:44.720
<v Speaker 1>everybody at five Slama Jam in the University of Houston.

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:49.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, but he used to Clyde used to elevate. Yeah,

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:50.880
<v Speaker 2>you know.

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 4>And another reason I put Tim in that because I remember,

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, I'm washing the Hall of Fame ceremony and

0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm watching Ruy T getting inducted, and then Rudy T

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:02.279
<v Speaker 4>gave me a shout out for the Hall of Fame

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 4>and they paying through the crowd, and Tim then clapped.

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 4>So that's why I ain't nobody, because hey, I just

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 4>said I thought it. Calls said, motherfucker, I said, you

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:18.399
<v Speaker 4>don't have some two thousand and five excuse about Yeah,

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:19.680
<v Speaker 4>you better get.

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Your clasps missing that damn Last night they go.

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Over Spurn, got some cap space. They gotta they gotta

0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:30.759
<v Speaker 1>make Hey, they got Stephan Castle, the rookie of the year,

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Wimby with the previous rookie of the year, they got

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 1>do they would you make the move for y?

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Honest? Would you try to package some pieces for y honest?

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:44.840
<v Speaker 2>That's the thing you got? You forgot about damn Fox.

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 2>I think.

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:50.399
<v Speaker 4>That's that's hard to say. I would because you can't

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 4>pass them. Oh, I think that's gonna be the highest

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 4>commanded this summer. Everybody's gonna wong with the Greek freak

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 4>because he's that type of player. You know, I mentioned

0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 4>really how hard he played, So this is gonna be

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:03.399
<v Speaker 4>really interesting to see where he goes if Milwaukee want

0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 4>to give him up. But if I'm the if I'm

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 4>the Spurs, we got the cast space to why not

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:11.960
<v Speaker 4>go after him because you know he'll love it there

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:14.240
<v Speaker 4>because he got a good One thing about the Spurs

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:17.880
<v Speaker 4>franchise is it's a good franchise. They're very humble franchised

0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:20.400
<v Speaker 4>and you don't have to worry about a lot of

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:23.880
<v Speaker 4>outside know If you think about in LA and in

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:26.759
<v Speaker 4>the Chicago, New York there's a lot of outside knowing.

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:30.920
<v Speaker 2>So you being in Milwaukee are used to the outside.

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 4>No, it's been at a minimum. So if you go

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 4>to the Spurs, you're in the same thing. So I

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 4>don't know if he wants that. I don't know if

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 4>he wants, you know, be more. You know, I can't

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:41.279
<v Speaker 4>get no more notable in yours retreat. But does he

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:42.320
<v Speaker 4>want a bigger market