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Speaker 1: the month, a conversation was luoming about whether Lillard and

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Speaker 2: So now what do you do? Q? That's interesting they

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Speaker 3: Like that's a little interesting tied that to come out

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Speaker 2: But I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they try and move down still this summer, like

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I ain't trader. How's you gonna

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Speaker 3: Because you're saying the first way they tried to come

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Speaker 2: It was like you.

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Speaker 3: Know, the the I guess the minimum amount of amount

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, man, I don't know. It's gonna

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Speaker 3: I mean, like, like I say, unless unless Janni's come

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be real interesting to see.

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Speaker 3: What goes on over there, because I know the last

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Speaker 3: trade for Jannis.

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Speaker 1: But see that was the most shocking thing about the

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Speaker 2: So normally guys don't move guys like that.

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Speaker 1: You're not moving yais unless he says, come movement, You

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Speaker 1: Lebron has always played out of his played his contract

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Speaker 1: He's really that simple. You Nightcapp family. Let's give it

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Speaker 1: up for Q. Thank him for joining us. Go follow

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Speaker 1: him at Q rich and his podcast at Knucklehead's podcast.

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Speaker 1: Q Man, thank you for your time, Thanks for joining

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Speaker 1: Congratulations on the podcast, Keep growing, keep doing your thing.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 3: gotta say one thing to you, Michael Jeffrey Jordan is

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Speaker 2: Okay, what it is? Jalen Bronson game went over the pistons,

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Speaker 1: He does a great job rob as you mentioned, but

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Speaker 2: He was sensatial.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't buy a basket for the first nine ten

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Speaker 5: Hold, I got a question you for for rob Man

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Speaker 5: for you and Unk right, is as great as Jalen

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Speaker 2: You look at them.

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Speaker 4: They got Derrick White that can defend. They got Holliday

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Speaker 5: You want to throw a little throw ways on them?

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Speaker 5: Said make it light of yourself. Bet fifty two hundred.

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Speaker 5: That's very specific, right he said, yeah, tell you try.

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Speaker 4: I grew up a huge Lakers fan, man, I grew

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Speaker 2: You're gonna hit them fans chant your name. But I

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Speaker 1: I don't know if people realize this, Rob, but before

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Speaker 2: No, no, it's so weird when you coming to lead

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Speaker 4: you don't ever dunk anymore.

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Speaker 4: And there's that one dunk in the playoffs against the

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Speaker 4: Let me show you something, man, Come sit down and

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Speaker 2: Was in the dad.

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Speaker 5: That's dope, that's lie. Hey, hey, Rob, with some of

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Speaker 2: I would I personally want to keep those balls. You

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Speaker 2: I have. I have one from it's actually the Game

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Speaker 4: I have that. And the only reason I have that

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Speaker 2: I want that ball. I want that ball.

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Speaker 4: And I wish I had the one I made against

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Speaker 4: bett you and lost, I just sell that and give

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Speaker 2: I know these Laker fans who loved that, well.

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Speaker 5: I'm supposed to have it inclosed in the case, right,

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Speaker 2: Keep sure sure to see. Huh.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's a fifty thousand point ball right now,

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Speaker 1: Greg Papavich stepped out of the coach at the San

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Speaker 1: Antonio First today, ending a nearly three decade run that

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Speaker 1: saw him lead the team to five championships. He's the

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Speaker 1: to the Basketball Hall of Fame. Rob, you played for Pop?

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Speaker 1: What what was it about Pop that made him special?

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Speaker 4: I think for me, it's just his how genuine he was,

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Speaker 4: The one thing that really made me fall in love

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Speaker 2: Man. You know, I just heard the day about the

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Speaker 4: It's like and that goes to show you, you know,

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Speaker 4: Pop realized that. You know, he was always about, you know,

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Speaker 2: It's my last year. I said, can I and my

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't even ask you no question like that.

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Speaker 4: It's about doing things, and a lot of teams wouldn't

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Speaker 4: can't get the flight back now lid Bill, you know

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 4: But pot was he's he was really really good about man,

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Speaker 1: And Timmy was receptive and that's what you have.

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Speaker 1: Timmy was one of these superstars that if you didn't

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Speaker 1: He didn't dress like a superstar. Hell I remember you

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Speaker 4: If you talk about cars, he'll talk to you talk

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Speaker 4: everybody's gonna perk up and listen.

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Speaker 2: So he was just he was very mild many way.

439
00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,400
Speaker 2: He's mild. Mind. He didn't want to say much.

440
00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,320
Speaker 4: But the guy was he competed and he was and

441
00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,000
Speaker 4: when he when he led you into his world, one

442
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,280
Speaker 4: of the nicest guys you'll meet.

443
00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,159
Speaker 1: You mentioned the Twin Towers because David Robinson was there.

444
00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,520
Speaker 1: But when David was there, I mean they Wondam Championship

445
00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:37,920
Speaker 1: with David, but David was on the tail end of

446
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,440
Speaker 1: his career. That was that was I mean, basically Tim

447
00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,280
Speaker 1: Dunkett team from the time he walked in the door.

448
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,680
Speaker 2: Oh he was just that good.

449
00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,920
Speaker 1: And he was one of the last guys that was

450
00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,800
Speaker 1: a true senior that was the number one overall. Kenya

451
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,760
Speaker 1: Martin was the last one, I think in two thousand,

452
00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 1: but Timmy was what ninety eight. I think the ninety

453
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,200
Speaker 1: eight draft was Timmy's first year, but he was the last,

454
00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,760
Speaker 1: the last of those guys that he went four years

455
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 1: of college and came out. So he was more than ready,

456
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 1: more than prepared for the grind because basically he was

457
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,280
Speaker 1: a grown man when he wasn't eighteen, he wasn't seventeen.

458
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,640
Speaker 2: Tim Duggan was a twenty two year old grown man

459
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:14,560
Speaker 2: when he got to the NBA.

460
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Speaker 4: So you tell me something I did not know. I

461
00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,880
Speaker 4: thought he came out earlier. You just so you say

462
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 4: everybody coming down early, you know, thinking about and that's

463
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 4: the one thing that I hated about the NBA. I know,

464
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,440
Speaker 4: these dudes are freaking twenty one when they get to

465
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,359
Speaker 4: college now, but I just wish that that that that

466
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,159
Speaker 4: I was about to say, David Stern that Adam Silbell

467
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 4: put like two years onto it. Because these guys. You

468
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 4: can tell by the way these guys play. Now, that's

469
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 4: why so many threes are being shot, because they don't

470
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 4: know how to play. They're doing what's easy. It's taking

471
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 4: the threes in the learning the game. You know, you

472
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 4: got some guys that are gonna come in the league

473
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 4: that know how to play the game because of the

474
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 4: upbringing and how they were taught. But it's just it's

475
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 4: just it's just a lot of bad basketball being played

476
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 4: because guys don't know how to play. You know, you

477
00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,679
Speaker 4: think about tonight washing game, Like, dude, the first thing

478
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 4: you learn in high school and college is how to

479
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 4: beat the damn zone.

480
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 2: Right, the zone is the easiest freaking thing to beat.

481
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 2: And you can't beat the zone.

482
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 4: It's like go to the Oprah spots, go to the

483
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 4: dunker spot, go back door, and it just shows you

484
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 4: right there that the guys aren't learning anything because they're

485
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 4: all just trying to, you know, get to the next

486
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 4: level to the league without learning something.

487
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 1: Rob you played with some of the greats. I mean,

488
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 1: you was on a team with him, Duncan. You was

489
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 1: on a team with Shaq and Kobe.

490
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 2: You was on the King with a lot Dream and Drexler,

491
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 2: And I know people ask you what the difference.

492
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 1: Between Dream and Duncan, the difference between Duncan and Shaq,

493
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 1: the difference between Clyde and Kobe. What are some of

494
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 1: the different look because look, all of those guys that

495
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,400
Speaker 1: I just mentioned are all the seventy five greatest players

496
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: in the NBA history, MVP's Finals, MVPs, Defensive.

497
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 2: Players of the Year.

498
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 1: When you got when you got to the Rockets, what

499
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: was it about the Dream that you know, okay and

500
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 1: this got special?

501
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 2: What set them apart? Shit?

502
00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 4: I knew Dream was special when I watched them in

503
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 4: college because when I when I was coming out, I said,

504
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 4: I want to play alongside this guy. You know, I

505
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 4: was praying that I went to the Rockets and the

506
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 4: guy was and I did because you could just see

507
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 4: his work as you know you watched him. You know,

508
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 4: guys always talking about going into the lab. Dream would

509
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 4: be in the lab and we didn't even know it.

510
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 4: He would be working on stuff and then he'll just

511
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 4: all of a sudden in the game. You know, you

512
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 4: think about ninety five high annihilated David.

513
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he said they took the game. Is it

514
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 2: took his the MVP from him? Yeah, all that stuff

515
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,679
Speaker 2: we had never seen before. You should have seen us

516
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 2: on the court.

517
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 4: We're going like, oh, we became fans on the court, right,

518
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 4: And so he just and you watch him, man, he

519
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 4: just played hard.

520
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 2: Man.

521
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 4: You think about you know, back in the day when

522
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 4: he you forget he used a knock some people out.

523
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, he had that toughness. You know,

524
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 2: you help on him.

525
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 4: He would he was because only a fifty dollars finals,

526
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 4: you know, puts him in the face. And so he

527
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 4: had that toughness and he just had that. The one

528
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 4: thing about Dream, though, is we talk about how hard

529
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 4: guys players like, and how hard Yannis plays, how hard

530
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 4: Bronson places, how hard he's got Dream play hard each

531
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 4: and every night. And you know, people would talk about

532
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 4: who's the greatest center, who's this, who's that.

533
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 2: Dream to me is always gonna be top three centers. Wow.

534
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 2: Because if he needed to shoot threes, he could have

535
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 2: shot threes.

536
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 4: He didn't because he had us out there and you

537
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 4: couldn't stop him in the paint any damn way.

538
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: So he just gonna keep you that way.

539
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 4: So he was just you know, he was just a

540
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 4: hard worker and the more important, great guy because he

541
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 4: taught me about the business of basketball. He was like, yo,

542
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 4: I remember one time at a Christmas part he took

543
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 4: me outside. I said, listen, you're gonna be on this team.

544
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 4: Now let's talk about, you know, things outside of basketball.

545
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 4: What you're doing with your money. You know, how's the family,

546
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 4: you know, are you investing, do you have the right people?

547
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 2: He was just a good guy.

548
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,479
Speaker 4: You know, a lot of guys now you know, they

549
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 4: won't they won't come to you and be like, yo, man,

550
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 4: you need to check your find that you need to

551
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 4: do this.

552
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: They like, fuck you. I learned it on my own.

553
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 4: You on your own, and so I just that's one

554
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 4: of the things I love about you. And he taught

555
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 4: me about the business of basketball. So you leave Houston

556
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 4: and you go to the let well you know you

557
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 4: have you didn't go right to you got to go there?

558
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: Huh, no, you have. You got to talk about the

559
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:10,239
Speaker 2: fins man.

560
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: Start you have a little bit and started saying, and Peter,

561
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: you you have a couple of coffee at the airport.

562
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 2: He got right back on the player. He went to

563
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 2: l A So you get to l A shock and

564
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: Kobe what you're like? Dam N? Got shocked? Got Kobe?

565
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 4: What?

566
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: What?

567
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 2: What y'all need to be to do? Yeah?

568
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 4: You know what's weird? When I got there, man, I'm

569
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 4: looking at the team. We had Nick ban X at

570
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 4: the yelling, we had Eddie Jones at the two. I said, okay,

571
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 4: I can play the three. You know, back then I

572
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 4: was the man, and I said, we got a young

573
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 4: guy like this. You know, everybody's like, oh, you got

574
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 4: to see this rookie Kobe Bryan.

575
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 2: I'm like, who.

576
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 4: And then you get to the practice you see how

577
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 4: good this dude is. Okay, he's learning, and then you

578
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 4: got shocked. You know, you say, okay, Shaq just got

579
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 4: beaten ninety five in the finals, and you got all

580
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 4: this talent. I said, oh man, we got to do

581
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 4: some work. I said, We're gonna do some work for

582
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 4: some years. Because everybody young, everybody's under thirty. But sometimes

583
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 4: it goes to show you too many cooks in the

584
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 4: kitchen when it comes to basketball ain't good. You gotta

585
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 4: have some guys that are blue guys, some screw guys,

586
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 4: you know, some boats and and do the things to

587
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 4: keep the team together.

588
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: And you think about we had four All stars. Yeah,

589
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 2: and then we got swept by a damn team that

590
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 2: has been together for thirty years. That was Kobe's rookie year,

591
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: wasn't it. That was Kobe's rookie year. Yeah, yep.

592
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 4: And then and then and then ninety nine, you know,

593
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 4: we got beat We got beat by the Spurs, lost

594
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 4: the last game in the Forum to the Spurs. And

595
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 4: then that was when we got new coaches, and we

596
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 4: said we got rid of Nick, we got rid of Eddie,

597
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 4: and we bought in defensive minded people. You know. He

598
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 4: brought in Ron Harper, We bought in b Shaw, we

599
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 4: bought in Rick Fox, We did all these things, brought

600
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 4: in a C.

601
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: Green And it was that Glue who was whole grand

602
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: there did a whole great only came for the last

603
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: hope Hope.

604
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 4: Grant was on the second championship in two thousand and

605
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 4: two thousand and one. Yeah, so, and it was just weird, man.

606
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 4: You just and it goes to show you when you

607
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 4: got too much talent, it's hard to get in the way.

608
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 4: But when you've got when you got enough talent and

609
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 4: you got guys who mature, and you can you can

610
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 4: tell Kobe and Shot to shut up and sit you.

611
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 2: Ass down and do what you're supposed to do, and

612
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 2: they gonna they gonna, you think about it.

613
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 4: We used to tell Kobe, all, dude, you ain't doing

614
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 4: that tonight, A Shack, you ain't doing that, and they

615
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 4: would listen to us because we are veteran guys.

616
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 2: You know. Now you got this going on.

617
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 4: Guys you know, respect us and we had a lot

618
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 4: of respect for one another, and it was no animosity.

619
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 4: And people always ask me about the Kobe Shack thing.

620
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 4: I was like, man, I must have been fucking blinded,

621
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 4: because they never had beef in front of us. It

622
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 4: was all in the papers man, you know, And that

623
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 4: was the weirdest thing. When people like, we'll talk about it,

624
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 4: I'm like they in the locker room, laughing and joking.

625
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 4: They the first people to hug after a championship. I know,

626
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 4: you tell me you you want a championship. Who was

627
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 4: the first person you hung, you hugged after you want

628
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 4: to champion? It's probably your favorite player on the team.

629
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 4: And so that's why I was like men's arriving, they

630
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 4: would say, oh, they're beef and I'm like, man, where

631
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 4: it was just weird to me? How good was Shaq?

632
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: You look at Shack and I tell people, I would

633
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,719
Speaker 1: think people realize how athletic Shock was when Shaq got

634
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: to the league, like Shaq first five or six years,

635
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: when Shaq was like seven one three twenty five and

636
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: can move like a dear. We'll never go to see

637
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: that again. You never go to see a guy his

638
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: signs with that kind ofigility.

639
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:18,959
Speaker 2: You're just not Now.

640
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: You might have a like a yoh, he's got the footwork,

641
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: and Joel of me got footwork, but I'm talking about

642
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: just raw athleticism and power.

643
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: You never phil O'Neil again, never, ye never.

644
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,719
Speaker 4: You know, you think about if you always tell if

645
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 4: you start a team, if I could take the two thousand,

646
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 4: the nineteen nine nine, two thousand Shock, the MVP Shack

647
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 4: and have him that Shack and put him on, that's

648
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 4: my first person, Not Jordan, not Dream, not Daream.

649
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 2: That's the first person I'm picked to start my line.

650
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 4: If I can get that Shack because he was just

651
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 4: so dominant, he was just so strong, so athletic. You

652
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 4: thinking about this, this guy can bring the ball down

653
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 4: across your spin, take off from outside the paint, then

654
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 4: monkey dunk on your ask and then you could do

655
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 4: you know, and you go back and look at a

656
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 4: lot of tape. And I've heard this out of refs mouth.

657
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 4: So I'm sitting there. You can hear all you is

658
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 4: on him and he's not getting the call. They're like, oh,

659
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 4: he's too big, he should be able to handle that.

660
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 4: I'm like, dude, it's a freaking file. He's slapping his show.

661
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 4: Y'all said, all right, y'all, gonna piss him off, and

662
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 4: then I'm gonna get out of way be cause he's

663
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 4: gonna start an elbowing and you can tell when he

664
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 4: got frustrated because he'll do that.

665
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: He don't care who he is. I'm like, so yeah,

666
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: he was.

667
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 4: He was like I said, if you got one player,

668
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 4: one moment, I'm taking nineteen ninety nine, two thousand shock

669
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 4: and I'm starting the team with that guy.

670
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: If I can get that guy each and every night.

671
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: Okay, Kobe, Kobe, if a seventeen he gets there seventeen.

672
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: Now by the time they start to win championships, he's

673
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: the Kobe. He's he's become what he became and you

674
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: get to see it on full display. He could still

675
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: elevate over the top. He got the minute, he could up.

676
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: Oh he had, he had the package. And if you

677
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: need him to sit in the chair for forty minutes

678
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: and take the opposing team to point two three, I

679
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: got it.

680
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he and he wanted that challenge. And you know, you,

681
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 4: you know, I know you think Lebron is the greatest

682
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 4: of all time. And you people talk about, uh MJ

683
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 4: being the greatest of all time. Why don't you think

684
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 4: you when you watch Kobe Bryant, he did every freaking

685
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 4: thing like MJ. And he probably took it to another

686
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 4: level because Kobe. You know, when Kobe first came in

687
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 4: the league, we used to laugh and joke him, like

688
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 4: you can't shoot threes?

689
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: He just shoot threes like MJ. But he we would

690
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,719
Speaker 2: like joke with him.

691
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 4: So that dude being in the gym every morning at

692
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 4: five o'clock shooting number threes and now he can shoot threes.

693
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 4: And it's things like that that why he was great.

694
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 4: You could tell him he was not good at something,

695
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 4: he would prove you wrong by going in and working

696
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 4: on it and added to his game.

697
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: This dude.

698
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 4: You know, God rest his soul. Was the hardest working

699
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 4: dude I've ever seen in my life. And you think

700
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 4: about where he went from his rookie year where he

701
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 4: just played. Wow, you know, he didn't have no structure

702
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 4: to his game to understanding that. Oh I got to

703
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 4: tone this down. And I don't know if it's because

704
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 4: he talked to MJ and talked to Field whatnot, but

705
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 4: when he got filled, it made him more.

706
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 2: Structure than I've ever seen before. So the dude was

707
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: just phenomenal. Man.

708
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 4: So I hate when we talk about the goat and

709
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 4: we never bring him up, like because it's like, you know,

710
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 4: to me, the goats are MJ, Kobe, Lebron, and Kareem.

711
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 4: Those are the goats. And why do we have to

712
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 4: put one, one, two, one, three and four those four

713
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 4: guys right there? Why great camps? Just four ghosts? That's

714
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 4: the amount rushmore right there?

715
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: Why Why didn't playing on that team alongside Shaq and Kobe?

716
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: Why didn't they win more individual MVPs? Kobe didn't win

717
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: one until later late in like two thousand one, I

718
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: think two thousand out of two thousand and ten, he

719
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: won the MVP. Why didn't they win. If why didn't

720
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: Shaq win more MVPs? Why didn't Kobe win MVPs? Did

721
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: they cancel each other out? I don't think they counted

722
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: each other.

723
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 4: I just think, you know, if you if you look

724
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 4: at the league back then, it was hard to win

725
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 4: back to backs unless she was a white guy name

726
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 4: Steve Nash.

727
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: So you know, you think about that second Steve.

728
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: Nash, I should have won that in Miami for real though,

729
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: So it's so many things you can look at it.

730
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: It's just weird.

731
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 3: You know.

732
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: You think about MJ when he was in the league.

733
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: He didn't win it.

734
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 4: Every year, you know, it's always someone different, And like

735
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 4: you think about this year, even though Joki is having

736
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 4: the best freaking career, best year of his career, he

737
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 4: probably give it to Shape, you know, And and it's

738
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 4: just how they do it. And I don't know why,

739
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 4: but I think Kobe should probably run at least three,

740
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 4: Shack should run at least I should Shack shuld run

741
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 4: at least two. You know, I think I say, the

742
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 4: year he wanted, he should have won it, and then

743
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 4: the following year he should have won it.

744
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: You know.

745
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 4: Other than that, I think, you know, because you think

746
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 4: about his third year, my third championship, he wasn't as

747
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 4: dominant as he was. He was still effective, he just

748
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 4: didn't bring that you think about it, he wasn't the

749
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 4: shack before that, and that's what they based off. They

750
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 4: always say, Okay, we're gonna take your last year. What

751
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 4: did you do better than that year? And I think

752
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 4: he was just consistent. He never like went up a

753
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 4: little bit to another level.

754
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: Uh. Jim Duncan, Jim Duncan had one of the great games.

755
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: He had a damn near quadruple double. He was two

756
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: blocks away from a quadruple double in an NBA Finals

757
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: game when he played when he played the Nets, uh

758
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: that year, he had twenty one points, twenty refound Channa

759
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: fis and eight blocks.

760
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a nets man in nets we had

761
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: just swear and just swept.

762
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 4: The next year before what that or whatever it wasn't

763
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 4: next was like, you know, poor poor j Skied Richard Jefferson,

764
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 4: that crew. You know, you were the beast in the East.

765
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 4: But when it came to playing the teams used to

766
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 4: wear it. He was just like, you like the legs

767
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 4: and the clippers, You're just a little brother.

768
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: So it was it was.

769
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 4: They made it a good challenge. But if you go

770
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 4: back and look at the East back then East was terrible. Man,

771
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 4: they was god awful and so but Tim duncan though.

772
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 4: That goes to show you when he wants to take over,

773
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 4: he can take over man. He And the one thing

774
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 4: I like about Tim when he comes to blocking shots,

775
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 4: he didn't care if you dunked them here, Like, shit,

776
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 4: I don't care. I don't have social media, I don't

777
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 4: care what you say. You know, people in San Antonio

778
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 4: gonna still about down to me. And you know most

779
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 4: guys were shot away from trying to, you know, go

780
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 4: up against the Venice car think you might get dunked on.

781
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: They're like, no, I ain't challenging that. Tim didn't give

782
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: a shit.

783
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 4: He would try to challenge you anywhere to block it

784
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 4: because he knew nine times out of ten he was

785
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 4: gonna block.

786
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: It and it's gonna start a fast break. All right,

787
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: you're Mount rushmore teammates. You get four teammates on Mount rush,

788
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: Well who you go with?

789
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 2: Dream Shaq, Kobe Clyde took cloud over Timmy.

790
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 4: You know what, this is the one of the things.

791
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 4: You know, I love Timmy, but I'm going with Clyde Clyde,

792
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 4: my boy dad. You know, sometimes personal feelings get in

793
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 4: the way. Hey, I'm doing the Steve Kurr right now.

794
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 4: I'm putting you know.

795
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 2: Hey, but you know, people don't. I think people forget

796
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: how good Cloud was.

797
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 4: Man.

798
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 1: He took a kind of a back seat roll when

799
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: he got to Houston. But but but Hortle Clyde Clyde,

800
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: I remember him. I remember what he was dunking on

801
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 1: everybody at five Slama Jam in the University of Houston.

802
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but he used to Clyde used to elevate. Yeah,

803
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 2: you know.

804
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 4: And another reason I put Tim in that because I remember,

805
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 4: you know, I'm washing the Hall of Fame ceremony and

806
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 4: I'm watching Ruy T getting inducted, and then Rudy T

807
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 4: gave me a shout out for the Hall of Fame

808
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 4: and they paying through the crowd, and Tim then clapped.

809
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 4: So that's why I ain't nobody, because hey, I just

810
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 4: said I thought it. Calls said, motherfucker, I said, you

811
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 4: don't have some two thousand and five excuse about Yeah,

812
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 4: you better get.

813
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: Your clasps missing that damn Last night they go.

814
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: Over Spurn, got some cap space. They gotta they gotta

815
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: make Hey, they got Stephan Castle, the rookie of the year,

816
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: Wimby with the previous rookie of the year, they got

817
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: do they would you make the move for y?

818
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: Honest? Would you try to package some pieces for y honest?

819
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 2: That's the thing you got? You forgot about damn Fox.

820
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: I think.

821
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 4: That's that's hard to say. I would because you can't

822
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 4: pass them. Oh, I think that's gonna be the highest

823
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 4: commanded this summer. Everybody's gonna wong with the Greek freak

824
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 4: because he's that type of player. You know, I mentioned

825
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 4: really how hard he played, So this is gonna be

826
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 4: really interesting to see where he goes if Milwaukee want

827
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 4: to give him up. But if I'm the if I'm

828
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 4: the Spurs, we got the cast space to why not

829
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 4: go after him because you know he'll love it there

830
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 4: because he got a good One thing about the Spurs

831
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 4: franchise is it's a good franchise. They're very humble franchised

832
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 4: and you don't have to worry about a lot of

833
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 4: outside know If you think about in LA and in

834
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 4: the Chicago, New York there's a lot of outside knowing.

835
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 2: So you being in Milwaukee are used to the outside.

836
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 4: No, it's been at a minimum. So if you go

837
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 4: to the Spurs, you're in the same thing. So I

838
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 4: don't know if he wants that. I don't know if

839
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 4: he wants, you know, be more. You know, I can't

840
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 4: get no more notable in yours retreat. But does he

841
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 4: want a bigger market