1 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by called Lida Health. 2 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: Welcome in to One Bill's Live. Hope you guys are 3 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: doing fabulous. Week fifteen is upon us. It features Round 4 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,319 Speaker 2: two between the Bills and the Patriots. I'm joined by 5 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 2: Steve Tasker for the next couple of hours here bringing 6 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: you the latest Bills news and notes and notes from 7 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: around the NFL. The Bills are practicing right now as 8 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: we speak on the indoor field, slated to go till 9 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: about two thirty. Then we'll hear from players afterward and 10 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: hopefully get an updated injury report Steve. Yesterday, the injury 11 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: report was as follows. Linebacker Trel Bernard, who's dealing with 12 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: an elbow injury, was limited. Bosa Joey Bosa is also 13 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: limited with a hamstring and wrist injury, as well as 14 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: right tackle Spencer Brown with a shoulder injury limited, wide 15 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: receiver Joshua Palmer dealing with that ankle injury also limited, 16 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: and tight end Dawson Knox did not practice due to 17 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: personal reasons. So we'll see if any of these guys 18 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: were upgraded to full participants in Thursday's practice and see 19 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,919 Speaker 2: if Knox is back in the building. Today. 20 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's even a week fifteen. Getting anybody healthier as 21 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: a plus, giving those Bosa not having to play a 22 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: complete game doing on the rehab thing, he'll come back 23 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: a little fresher. Kincaid'll probably feel a week better than 24 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: he did last week. All of this stuff eat Josh Palmer, 25 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: it'd be great to have him back on the field. 26 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: It has been a carousel out out at the edges 27 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: of the offense all season, so we'll have to wait 28 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: and see what happening. You know, Micole Hardman still in 29 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: the building. I mean it's been it's been a mess 30 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: out there. 31 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: There have been a lot of injury. 32 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 3: With Keon his discipline issues, the whole thing. 33 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: Just give us, just give us some stability out there 34 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: would be a nice healthy week. 35 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it give us a healthy week. 36 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: It looks like the group is getting healthier. I mean 37 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: that is a positive update that I mean, we've seen 38 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: injury reports that were far bigger and longer than what 39 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: I just read off and hopefully you get some of 40 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: these guys back in the fold for Sunday against a 41 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: very very important matchup with the New England Patriots, who 42 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: are sitting at eleven to two right now second place 43 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: in the AFC. They win this game, the Patriots are 44 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 2: crowned AFC East champions. If the Bills beat them, they 45 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: hold the Patriots off from winning the division for now. 46 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: We'll see. Buffalo still has a path to do it, 47 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: but it starts with beating the Patriots on Sunday. 48 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an important game for the Bills to. 49 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: Either postpone or whatever keep the Patriots from clinching the division. 50 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: That's this first and foremost. That's it right there. 51 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 3: They'll draw it. 52 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: Within a game, but you know, they still there's still 53 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, a whole month. 54 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: To go, So it starts with this game. 55 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: This is I think a much obviously a much bigger 56 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: game for the Bills than it is for the Patriots. 57 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: The Patriots playoff ticket is pretty much punched at this point. 58 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: Even if they haven't, you know, mathematically clinched a playoff spot, 59 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: you know of course that they are going to be 60 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: doing that within a short time. Nobody in the league 61 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 1: has really clinched his playoffs, but nothing's been clinched anywhere, 62 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: so I guess there's been a few teams that are 63 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: mathematically out of it. But yeah, this is this I 64 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: think this game starts with Buffalo and their ability to 65 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: go on the road. 66 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: They've struggled and three and three on the road this season. 67 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: They can't. 68 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: They can't continue to do that and hope to be 69 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: the team they want to be at the end of it. 70 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 3: Yep. 71 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,679 Speaker 2: Also eight and seven on the road since twenty twenty four, 72 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: Bills have got to get in the win column to 73 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: finish out the season with road games. 74 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: And this you know obviously and people know this that 75 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: New England's the only team that has beaten them in 76 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: their building in two years. 77 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 3: So, yeah, this's a big game. Yep, it's gonna be 78 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 3: a test. 79 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Bill's practice updates are presented by Lee Colm 80 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: lake Erie, College of Osteopathic Medicine. If we get an 81 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 2: injury report in the next couple hours, we will make 82 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 2: sure to update you on player statuses. All right. In 83 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: today's show, we've got it. We've got a couple fun 84 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 2: guests coming on. We have Thurman Thomas joining us at 85 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: one thirty, and then we have CBS sideline reporter Evan 86 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: Washburn joining the show here at two o'clock. We also 87 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: have a question for you today, what are your keys 88 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: to a Buffalo victory over the Patriots on Sunday. You 89 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: can tweet at us post on x or give us 90 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: a call at eighth three, five point fifty to join 91 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: into the conversation. Some things are happening in the NFL today, 92 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: so let's get to our news and notes and go 93 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: around the NFL. It's presented by Kalida Health, the official 94 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 2: healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills, and right off the bat. TJ. 95 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: Watt right now is in a local hospital for further 96 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: medical evaluation of his lung after experiencing discomfort at the 97 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 2: practice facility on Wednesday. According to the Steelers, he will 98 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: not be at practice on Thursday, and the status for 99 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 2: Monday night's game against Miami is in question. The release 100 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: that the Steelers posted also said that coach Tomlin will 101 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 2: provide more updates at the appropriate time. Scary news, something 102 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 2: you never want to see. That a player is in 103 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 2: a local hospital to begin with, but not even due 104 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 2: to something that happened in a game. 105 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, they obviously the players are pretty in tune with 106 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: how their body feels. And it sounded like he got 107 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: he had some discomfort in his lung. Interesting to think 108 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: about what that would feel like, I don't know, and yeah, 109 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: it's human beings. I guess anything can go wrong. Yeah, 110 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: that's yeah, But that's the Steelers Ravens race for the 111 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: AFC North is unbelievaing. 112 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 3: TJ. 113 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: Watt may be one of the most significant players in 114 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: that race exactly. So, yeah, that you can bet the 115 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: Ravens aren't monitoring TJ Watt's health as much as the 116 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers are. 117 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: Yep. Because the Ravens and the Steelers close out the 118 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 2: regular season with a game against each other on January fourth, 119 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: that time is to be determined. At this point, the 120 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 2: Ravens and defensive tackle Travis Travis Jones have reached a 121 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: three year extension worth forty point five million dollars. That's 122 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: twenty five million guaranteed. According to Ian Rapaport, Jones was 123 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: a pending free agent coming this offseason. Currently in his 124 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: fourth NFL season, he's played in sixty one games with Baltimore, 125 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: certain thirty has five sacks. Was drafted in the third 126 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: round of the twenty twenty two NFL drafts. So deals 127 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: are already getting done for the season's approaching. 128 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, some teams have some salary cap space and they 129 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: can use it up. Now, get these guys extended, because 130 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: we've seen it. The longer the team waits, the price 131 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:40,119 Speaker 1: never goes down. Oh yeah, never goes down. So sign 132 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: your guys and get it done exactly. 133 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: Bill's general manager Brandon Bean is usually ahead of the 134 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: curve when things like that happen. You see being extend 135 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: a player, and then the next couple days you'll see 136 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: different players in the same position group have their extensions 137 00:07:55,320 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: and you're thinking, who being got a deal with defensive linemen. 138 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: Bengals have officially placed defensive end Trey Hendrickson on the 139 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: injured reserve list with a hip and pelvis injury. Hendrickson 140 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: did get surgery this week in Philadelphia and is expected 141 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 2: to be sidelined for six weeks. According to Adam Schefter, 142 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: Hendrickson has started in just seven games this season for Cincinnati, 143 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: coming off of that big extension that he got that 144 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: took the two parties a while to come to terms with. 145 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's also why teams hesitate to sign guys deep 146 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: into their career to long term deals. It's hard to 147 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: play well into your early to mid thirties. 148 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 2: It is Week seventeen is officially finalized Steve. The NFL 149 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: has finalized Week seventeen with a Saturday, December twenty seventh 150 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: slate of games. It will feature a double header, starting 151 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: with the Texans at the Chargers at four thirty on 152 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: NFL Network. In the night, we'll finish off with the 153 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: Ravens and Packers at eight o'clock on Peacock and then. 154 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 3: Moving on and don't forget that's Saturday. 155 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Saturday, Saturday Football. 156 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: Nice. 157 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 2: How do you feel about that at. 158 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 3: The time of year, let's go. I like it. 159 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 4: I do like it. 160 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: I gotta say. 161 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: I mean, at this point in the season, with all 162 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 2: the implications there are for every single team, it's like 163 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 2: I could do football every single day of the week. 164 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 2: I will watch it. 165 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: It's a puzzle because they don't want especially Week seventeen, 166 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna get more and more teams clinching and clinching 167 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: a playoff spot, although their seed won't be decided, and 168 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: they want to make sure that one team who still 169 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: has a chance doesn't play before a team who can 170 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: put them out. So it's kind of a puzzle they're 171 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: trying to put together. And this is the first step 172 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,479 Speaker 1: that we're getting a peak at what the League. 173 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: Thinks, well, the Tampa Bay Bucks puzzle is finally coming 174 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: together because wide receiver Mike Evans is off injured reserve 175 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: and has been activated to play on Thursday against the Falcons. 176 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: Remembering it's six games with a fractured collar bone. That's 177 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: the for wide receiver Jalen McMillan, who's off injured reserve. 178 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: He was placed on it initially due to a neck injury. 179 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: The two are both questionable on the Bucks injury reports, 180 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: so that would be big at this point of the 181 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: season if Tampa Bay can get those two wide receivers back. 182 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Tampa Bay is still pushing forward, and well so 183 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: the Falcons. 184 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 3: I can't believe. 185 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: I can't believe how well they played against Buffalo and 186 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 1: now they look like they look, you know, and Mike 187 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: Panix is not in the lineup, it's you know, it's 188 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. 189 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 3: But man, oh man, they look like a completely different. 190 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: Squad roller coaster ride of a season as the Colts 191 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 2: get Philip Rivers back in the swing of things. Can't 192 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: believe I'm saying that in a sentence. Colts quarterback Riley Leonard, 193 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 2: who has a strained knee ligament, was a full participant 194 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: for Wednesday's practice, so it looks like if the Colts 195 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 2: were to need him against Seattle, he could go. So 196 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: something to monitor there. And then we have some news 197 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: about the NFL referees and their CBA. NFL Executive Vice 198 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: President of Football Operations Troy Vincent informs teams yesterday that 199 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: the collective Bargaining agreement between the NFL and the NFL 200 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: Referees Association ends in May, so that makes this the 201 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: final season of the agreement. The league views this as 202 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: an opportunity to take significant steps to improve officiating pending 203 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: union agreement. So the NFL is looking for more access 204 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: to officials year round for training and development because right 205 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: now the NFL can't speak to officials from the day 206 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 2: after the Super Bowl until May fifteenth, which is a 207 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 2: big chunk of time. 208 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not full time, Nope. Now there are some 209 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: who are full time officials are there's a good percentage 210 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: of these guys that do work as NFL officials full time, 211 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: but because of the CBA, they're out of the mix 212 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: from February to May. 213 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 3: And that's fine. 214 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: Everybody deserves some time off, particularly when your sport's not 215 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: playing and that's what you do. But I think it's 216 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: it's nice. I don't know what it's going to meaning 217 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: the big scheme of things, but at least the league 218 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: is putting forth the effort of saying, listen, we're going 219 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: to try and get better in this area. With all 220 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: the technology they've employed over the past few years, getting 221 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: better got well, I say better, getting the guys they 222 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: have and supplementing them with better guys and having a 223 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: pipeline there so they can bring guys into the league 224 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: and develop them. 225 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 3: Maybe having a. 226 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: Feeder system that's something other than the SEC or the 227 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: Big ten, Big twelve. We'll see. The league is always 228 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: going to strive to get better. And like I've always said, 229 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: the NFL is the eight hundred pound guerilla in the 230 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: sports landscape because they're very well run and they get 231 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: almost they get every single issue that faces the league. 232 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: Every challenge that faces the NFL, they get right every time. 233 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 3: But sometimes it takes forever to get it right. 234 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: They continue to work at it, and officiating I think 235 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: is I mean, that's kind of one of the boulders 236 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: you want to get right right. I forget about the 237 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: sand that goes in around the edges. This is a 238 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: this is a brick for your foundation that you need 239 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: to get right. 240 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 3: Is the officiating at. 241 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: This point in twenty twenty five, Are you surprised that 242 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 2: more refs are not full time? 243 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 5: Uh? 244 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: Not really because and maybe this is posturing by the league. 245 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 3: Me as a guy who was. 246 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: I was the worst officiating hater in the on the 247 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: planet when I played. I was so bad, I confess 248 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: I can talk to I was the absolute word. I 249 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: was not friendly. Oh my gosh, I was not friendly, 250 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: and I was so bad. I was so bad. I'm 251 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: embarrassed to tell you how bad I was. But having 252 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: said that, now this I'm at a place in my 253 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: life now where I appreciate how good they are and 254 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: how tough it is. And I've talked to them and 255 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: had conversation, particularly during my time at CBS, the two 256 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: decades I spent doing the national stuff, I would brush 257 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: up against them, have converse and eavesdrop, and they were 258 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: having conversations together about how they saw the game. It 259 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: was enlightening as to how they work and do their job. 260 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: So they need they need to give these guys make 261 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: it as simple as they can for these guys. The 262 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: technologies has helped some get it right, but that doesn't 263 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: diminish how well they do their jobs. I mean, for 264 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: the most part, I think they're stellar officials and we 265 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: see it every week. But the technology that's been used 266 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: in the game has started to give them some crutches, 267 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: like the James Cook fumble out of that corner of 268 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: the end zone this last week, where they called it 269 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: a touchdown and not only was it not a touchdown 270 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: it might have been Cincinnati's ball because of a touch 271 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: back because the ball was fumbled right away, but because 272 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: technology said they know that every scoring play is reviewed anyway, 273 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: nobody lost a challenge, nobody had anything of that nature 274 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: to do. They got it right in the end and 275 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: even including the penalty that was called before the ballwin 276 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: in the end zone. It's they got to get this. 277 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: They got to get the officiating right. And I think 278 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: this new CBA will go towards they'll they'll work. 279 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 3: At doing it. 280 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: I'm I like that. What I'm you know, Troy Vincent's 281 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: a stand up guy. He's going to do it right 282 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: by the officials, and but that's that's not a small thing. 283 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: It is not a small thing. 284 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 3: They got a ton of dudes they got to look 285 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: out for. Yeah, it's like over one hundred guys. 286 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: So I'm yeah, that's it's gonna be a big We're 287 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: gonna hear more about that is the season off season rules. 288 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: It'll be interesting. Okay, if you are the biggest ref 289 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: hater when you're playing, what's your funniest interaction with the 290 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: referee from your playing days? 291 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 3: You got a story? 292 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: Well, you got to be smarter than that. I mean, 293 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: you can't confront them. So what I would do. My 294 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: favorite tech was that I had a guy in fact, 295 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: I just had an interaction with him. Yesterday's Bud Carpenter 296 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: was the head trainer for the Buffalo Bills for decades 297 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: after Eddie Abramowski. He was under Eddie, the Hall of 298 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: Fame trainer. Eddie retired and Bud took over and was 299 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: there for decades. And so Bud. I would use Bud 300 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: as my conversation partner. Bud would stand next to the official. 301 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: As I was coming off the field, there would be 302 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: an officially. He would go stand with the officials if 303 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: there were two or three of them, and I would 304 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: come over and start talking to Bud. But I was 305 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: really talking loud and obnoxious to the officials. But I 306 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: wasn't talking to I'm not talking to you, I'm talking 307 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: to him. And they would hear all of it, all 308 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: of it, and I would give it to him hard, 309 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: like no hold on, I would come. I one time, 310 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: I remember Bud thought it was my best line ever. 311 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: I said, Bud, there are twenty two professionals out here, 312 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: none of them or wearing stripes. 313 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 6: You know. 314 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: I just all that stuff, And that's that was vanilla 315 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: compared to the sum of the flowery stuff I would 316 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: spew out. 317 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 3: And I confess I was. 318 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: I was a donkey because of my emotion, because you know, 319 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: you get tired, you know, you could you get up 320 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: into the game and you're you know, somebody's beating your 321 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: head in. 322 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 3: You're not happy about it, right, that's right. And so yeah, 323 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 3: I would vent. 324 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: I would vent to my friend Bud Carpenter or anybody 325 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: else if I can find him, if the just so 326 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: the official would be right there could hear it, and 327 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: I just you know it, it would ease the anxiety 328 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: a little bit. 329 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: Get get a little bit out of your system. 330 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, flip a table over or something that's good that Yeah, 331 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: I was self admittedly I confess it now, and I'm 332 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: a better man now than I was then. 333 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 3: I'm yeah, I was bad. I was so bad. So well. 334 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 2: I haven't talked with you much this week about the 335 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: game coming up. I know you've been on with Chris 336 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: Brown all of this week. But now that we're sitting 337 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 2: here together as it sits here Thursday afternoon, Bills are 338 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: practicing right now, where are you at with this matchup 339 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 2: right now? 340 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: This is gonna be one of those games. It's gonna 341 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: be a single possession division game. You know, whoever makes 342 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: the least amount of mistakes is gonna win, And if 343 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: the other team can force you into mistakes, they're gonna win. 344 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: You know you can't make them. So I think it's 345 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: gonna be that kind of game. I think it's gonna 346 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: be one of those where all the Bills fans and 347 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: all the Patriots fans are gonna sit on the edge 348 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: of their seats and just want and hold a waste 349 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,719 Speaker 1: basket because they want to puke into it every so often. 350 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: It's gonna be high anxiety. 351 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a game that's gonna have 352 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna be in a roller coaster of emotions. 353 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be. 354 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be an excruciating game, whether 355 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: we win or lose. 356 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 2: Low scoring or high scoring. What do you believe? 357 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 3: Oh, I think it's gonna be. 358 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: Me like, it's gonna be somewhere between right, both teams 359 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: right around twenty points. They'll both be right around twenty points. 360 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: And God, I just think it's gonna I think we're 361 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: all going to want to just want to end it. 362 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: I We're just gonna have to leave the room. I 363 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be one of those games. I just 364 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: really do, because I think Bills fans see this as 365 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: the important game that it is for Buffalo. It's, you know, 366 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: nobody's gonna let go of five straight division titles slightly, 367 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: so Bill's fans are gonna hang on to that chance 368 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: to get it again for the sixth time hard, and 369 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be hard to It's gonna be hard 370 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: to wrench out of the Patriots hands. But you have 371 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: no chance if you don't win this game. 372 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 3: You've got to win. 373 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: So I think Bills fans are kind of in that mindset. 374 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: I know I am, so I think this is gonna 375 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: be one of those games. 376 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 3: Where it's just painful to sit through. 377 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: And whether you win or lose, at the end, it's 378 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: gonna be like just relief more than it is jubilation. 379 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: It'll be you and me sitting. 380 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, Matt and I sit here, we watch 381 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: these games. We're sitting here ready for the post game, 382 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,479 Speaker 1: and we're you know, we're like the fans. I mean, 383 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: we're just like just living and dying with every snap, 384 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: and it's just well, there you go. That's what I 385 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be. I think it's gonna be a long, 386 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: hard game. 387 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 2: Wo man. Well, we know the Patriots have won ten 388 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 2: straight games, and in those ten games, they've scored at 389 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 2: least twenty three points and allowed less than twenty three. 390 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: It's the longest streak within singles within a single season 391 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 2: in the NFL in its history. Also, I thought this 392 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: was interesting. This is the second matchup in the last 393 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 2: fifty seasons between the Bills and the Patriots in which 394 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: both teams were five games over five hundred entering that matchup. 395 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 3: Wow. 396 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, good. 397 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: Something you don't see often will be on display Sunday 398 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 2: afternoon in Foxborough. 399 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 3: Those game. These games don't happen very often. Think about it. 400 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: I mean both teams really win in a lot of 401 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: games and then meetings late in the Sea. I mean 402 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: we did it maybe once or not even during the 403 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: time I played with all those games we played, I 404 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: think it happened with us, not never in a division game. 405 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: We played the Giants once when both teams were eleven 406 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: and two, But man, he just never happens. It never 407 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: seems like you get one of those games. This is interesting, though, 408 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: that the Patriot Patriots have put it together this year. 409 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: Whether you eleve them or hate them, which Bill's fans, 410 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: I don't need to ask you how you feel, but 411 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: you got to tip your cap to them. 412 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 3: It's hard to win that many games in a row. 413 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 2: They're eleven to start is the best start for the 414 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 2: Patriots since twenty sixteen. I mean this goes well. 415 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 3: Eleven and two is beyond Yes, when. 416 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: The Bills started winning the AFC East, Yeah, yeah. Are 417 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: you surprised they've been this good this season? Did you 418 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: think it would take one more year? 419 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 3: Well? 420 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: No, I'm surprised they've been able to win that many 421 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: games in a row. I think they're about as good 422 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: as I thought they'd be. But I just didn't think 423 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: that would be enough to the schedule they've got was 424 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: a gift. Some of the teams they got were struggling. 425 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm not going to chalk it all up to the 426 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: fact that they didn't you know, finger quotes, they didn't 427 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: play anybody, because they played you know, a ton of 428 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: people that the Bills have played. But you know, they 429 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: they got on a roll, starting with the Carolina Panthers 430 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: and then the Bills the next weekend. Uh, they won 431 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: a close one to a New Orleans team that was 432 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: it's not very good. They crushed the Tennessee Titans, they 433 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: crushed the Cleveland Browns. They barely beat the Atlanta Falcons, 434 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: the team that that handed it to the Bills. 435 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 3: Pretty good. 436 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: Uh, they just beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, a team 437 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: that the Bills beat by double digits. Uh, they crushed 438 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: the Jets. They just got around the Bengals and Bills fans, 439 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: you know, you can you can commiserate with that. Bengals 440 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: are a hard team to beat. But that was and 441 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: that was I think just before Joe Burrow came back. Yes, 442 00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: so they did. They played the Bengals without with and it. 443 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 2: Was without Jamar Chase because he was suspended for that. 444 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: Actually they played a wounded, a wounded Bengals team still 445 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: and then of course then right before their bye week 446 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: they beat the Giants and crushed them. So they're crushing 447 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: some bad teams. They're just getting by some other teams 448 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: that are bad. But as far as being I think 449 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: they're exactly what I thought they'd be. I just didn't 450 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: think that would be enough to win as many games 451 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: as they have. They're they're very well rounded club are 452 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: the Patriots, and they have handled Drake May extremely well, 453 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: extremely well. He's a good player too, but they have 454 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: done everything they can to make sure he. 455 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 3: Has some success. 456 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: They protect him extremely well, and the kids come through 457 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: for him. 458 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 3: The guys come through for him. 459 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: Most efficient pastor in the game this season, that's what 460 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: Drake May is. Leads the NFL and completion percentage with 461 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 2: seventy one and a half percent. It's got a passer 462 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 2: rating of one to eleven, which is second best in 463 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 2: the league. I mean, he's up there in so many statistics. 464 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: Ros McDaniels is one of the best offensive coordinators in 465 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: the league. 466 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely he may be. 467 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 2: He's he's up in the What is he so good at. 468 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 3: Here's what he can do. 469 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: He certainly he protects the quarterback and does some basic 470 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: things extremely well. 471 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 3: He'll protect him or he. 472 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: Will adjust on the fly very quickly, and that keeps 473 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: you out ahead of it, which is as excellent as well. 474 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: But he also sets your defense up to be attacked 475 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: where it's weak. His pre snap information is extremely good. 476 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: His ability to teach his quarterback where to attack any 477 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: given defense. Once you recognize what it is, you attack 478 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: it where it's Every defense has weaknesses, right, or everybody 479 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: would play that same defense. So his ability to get 480 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: his quarterback to hit the defense where it's weak, where 481 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: it's vulnerable, every single snap is unpresent. And plus he 482 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: will sequence plays and play here, one play here, and 483 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: then the defense will start to think, okay, I got you, 484 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, I don't got you. 485 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 3: You know they got me. 486 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: So it's one of those kind of things where you 487 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: think they set you up for anticipating something and then 488 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: pulling the rug out from underneath. 489 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 3: You and getting it the other way. 490 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: So he's brilliant at that and smart move by Mike 491 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: 're able to keep Josh McDaniel in the building. Yeah, yeah, smart. 492 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: Move, Yeah, I agree. What sticks out most about New 493 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 2: England Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels is his ability to 494 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: give Drake May the information he needs before the ball 495 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: is snapped, with motions and things like that as a 496 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 2: telltale sign of this is what the opposing defense is in, 497 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: and this is how you can beat it. How you 498 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: beat what New England does, I believe is some disguises. 499 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 2: The Bills have been so good at disguising their corner 500 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: blitzes this season. Hey, they got Joe Burrow on two 501 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 2: corner blitzes last week. I believe they can use something 502 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: like that again against a younger, younger quarterback to get 503 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 2: them on the ground, to push the pocket, to make 504 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 2: them one dimensional. I'm very interested in how defensive coinertor 505 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: Bobby Babbage is gonna call this game. 506 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this too. The Bills are and the Patriots 507 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: are a little opposite. The Patriots are very good at 508 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: in the beginning of games and the Bills that flip flopped. 509 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: The point differential is high for the Patriots in the 510 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: first half of games and less or maybe negative in 511 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: the second half. It's just the opposite of that for Buffalo. 512 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: The Buffalo is negative in the first half and very 513 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: positive by a long way, first in the league. 514 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 3: In the second half. 515 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: So that may this that lines this game up for 516 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: the Patriots to go out and jump into the lead 517 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: and the Bills come fighting back, you know, So we'll 518 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: see if that's the case. Doesn't necessarily have to be 519 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: that way, obviously, But the first time these two teams met, 520 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: remember it was sixty three at halftime. 521 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Buffalo had the lead once. They were tied a 522 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: couple times throughout the game, and Buffalo tied it up 523 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 2: with just over two minutes to play, and the Patriots 524 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 2: hit a game winning fifty two yard field goal. So 525 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 2: when you look back at this game, for some reason, 526 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: it was like for me, at least before I looked 527 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,479 Speaker 2: back at like, actually one unfolded. I forgot, you know, 528 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: the Bills were in it at the end. You kind 529 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 2: of feel like it was a game where you got 530 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: a bad taste in your mouth. They didn't play that 531 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: good because they had the lead just once in the game. 532 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 2: It kind of felt like it was the Patriots game 533 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 2: the entire way. 534 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: They turned it over three times, were minus two on 535 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: the turnover chart, and it felt like that. I remember, 536 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: it felt like that game got away from Buffo. 537 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that. 538 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: Game was at home, and it's going to be tough 539 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: to go into Foxborough and have any kind of edge. 540 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 2: Not gonna be easy to play there. 541 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 3: It's not hard. It's not easy. It's a hard place 542 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 3: to play. 543 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 2: But you got Josh Allen on your team as Jort back, 544 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 2: and anything is possible. That's what I keep phoning back on. 545 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 2: I know we got to take a break, but when 546 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 2: we return, coming up at one thirty, so just a 547 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 2: couple of minutes away. We've got the legend Thurman Thomas 548 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 2: joining us next on One Bill's Live, represented by Clyde 549 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 2: Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. 550 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 2: We are now joined by Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas. 551 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on and hanging out with us today. 552 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: Big game this week, Big. 553 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 7: Game this week, Like who was hoping like coming up 554 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 7: here and say, look, I don't even want to talk 555 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 7: about it. 556 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't even want to talk that game. That 557 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 4: game is over, Like, don't even mention it. 558 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 7: Like this is like moved on, have moved on, Like 559 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 7: like like a Belichick will say, we've moved on. 560 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 4: Monday morning, We're done right in New England. 561 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 3: We're on in New England. 562 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 7: So yeah, the biggest game, biggest game of the year. 563 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 7: And like I said, we don't know, like is this 564 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 7: going It's New England gonna fall off and we're somehow 565 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 7: going to win the division or whatever. 566 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 4: You know, Like this game right here is it. 567 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 7: Doesn't matters without a win, without a win, and so, 568 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 7: uh yeah, I think it'll be tough. I think we 569 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 7: can always look at it. I mean you look at 570 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 7: New England schedule, like, you know, like who are they played, 571 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 7: you know, can they handle the Bills and Denver back 572 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 7: to back? You know, tough games back there. They haven't 573 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 7: did that really and they've It's hard enough to win 574 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 7: in the National Football League and they've done a very 575 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 7: good job of really putting together with eleven wins now. 576 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 7: And I've always been a fan of Mike Rabel. You know, 577 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 7: people are probably saying no, no, no, but he's always 578 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 7: been a good coach. I was real upset for him 579 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 7: when he got released, you know, from the Titan because 580 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 7: I thought like he built he built that really, I 581 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 7: mean he had success besides you know, Jeff Fisher being 582 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 7: old football coach there or whatever. But come into New 583 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 7: England and doing what he's doing. It's impressive. Like I said, 584 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 7: this is a National Football League. Any given week, anybody 585 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 7: can beat anybody, and they've proven that, hey with the 586 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 7: eleven wins, you know, but I'm still like, but can 587 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 7: you do it back to back to back? 588 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 4: And what seed or you're going to get? I mean, 589 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 4: all that is thrown right. 590 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 7: In there, because if you're New England, you think about 591 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 7: the years that they had. 592 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 6: They had the number one seed for. 593 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 4: Eighteen out of the twenty years they. 594 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 7: Went to the playoffs. I mean, it was always that 595 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 7: number one seed. And now are we seeing that? And 596 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 7: I love Drake May. I think he's a fantastic quarterback. 597 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 7: And you know, the receivers, the defense that they have. 598 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 7: You know, they've already beat us one, but we did 599 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 7: have three turnovers. 600 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: I just told Maddy, I expect this game to be 601 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: like the one here. Is gonna be a one possession game, 602 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna be just absolutely. 603 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 3: Excruciating to watch, whether. 604 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: We win or lose. I think it's gonna be one 605 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: of those games. Every snap I'm just gonna have to 606 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: cover my eyes every snap because it's gonna be so 607 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: tension tense. 608 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 6: Phil, Yeah, I mean you are right. 609 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 7: I was just telling somebody today like, this will be 610 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 7: the most watched Buffalo Bills game in a while. 611 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, because the Chiefs game got like 612 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: I had fifty eight million people watching it this year 613 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: at four twenty five. 614 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 3: But this, listen, this, this, this will. 615 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 4: Break some records, will be in the number one game 616 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 4: might be. Yeah, it will break some records. 617 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 3: Want to see it. 618 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 6: People are gonna want to see it. 619 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: Know, it's the two MVP, the two and three in 620 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: the MVP. Can if you give Matt Stafford, like if 621 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: he's the first guy out, this is two and three, 622 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,479 Speaker 1: Drake may Josh Allen, this is and think about that. 623 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,479 Speaker 1: These guys are gonna see each other for a while 624 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: twice a year, right, yeah, I. 625 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 6: Mean what Drake's only what second year? 626 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 5: Second year? 627 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 4: Josh is ninth, eighth, eighth, so got a little of 628 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 4: a six year start right there. 629 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 7: So I think, you know, Drake will probably play longer 630 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 7: while and Josh will be retired, you know, so if 631 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 7: he can retire with two super Bowl champions. Yeah yeah, thanks, yeah, look, 632 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 7: thanks for stopping Brown. Let Drake make do his thing. 633 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 7: But yeah, it's uh. And the thing about it is 634 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 7: that I like that it's in our division too. And 635 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 7: I say that because, you know, really, in the last 636 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 7: three or four years, we've just I mean, we've come 637 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 7: to Game twelve and the division. 638 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 4: Has already been clutched, right, you know. 639 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 7: So I think this is a little bit of different 640 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 7: mindset for the Buffalo Bills now that they know we 641 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 7: might not get the number one seed or number two seed, 642 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 7: we might be playing on the road for all three games, 643 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 7: like those are the things that you're already thinking about, Like, okay, 644 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 7: but in order to do that, we have to play. 645 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 4: We have to win this football game to keep that 646 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 4: trig alive. 647 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 2: There's a lot of meaning in the game. We're talking 648 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 2: about it right now. As a player, how do you 649 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 2: let that meeting meaning of the game fuel you but 650 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: not freak you out so much that it handcuffs you 651 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 2: on Sunday? 652 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 4: Yeah? 653 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 7: You know, for for me, it was I never really 654 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 7: changed up anything, my routine or whatever. And I think 655 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 7: the teammates that we had in that locker room, they 656 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 7: knew and they understand, so they kind of gave off 657 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 7: the vibe really of how things should be working that week, 658 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 7: you know. Don't get too high and don't get too low, 659 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 7: but just always focused on the task that you have 660 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 7: at inn and uh and I think this team, you know, 661 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 7: this is you look at the injuries. 662 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 4: You look at you know people, Oh, the offense can't 663 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 4: do this. 664 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 7: It's so predictable. And we're still right there. And this 665 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 7: may be the first time in what the first time 666 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 7: that we might not have our nemesis in the playoffs 667 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 7: being in City and and Baltimore and Baltimore. I mean, 668 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 7: those three teams might not make the playoffs and so 669 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 7: and now I know you have these new guys, these 670 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 7: new younger. 671 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 3: Bonators Drake May. Yeah, but. 672 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: You're right, it looks that looks easy. But this is 673 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: also the most injured. I mean, you took the you 674 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: took the the three best players other than Josh, The 675 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: three best players on both sides of the ball have 676 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: been chopped off at different times on the season, Ed 677 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: and Michael Hoyt. Hoyd played two games, Ed played two games, 678 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: three games, and then you know, Bosa was out the 679 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. Josh Palmer's been out for a while, 680 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: Kincaid has been you know, he's had like he hasn't 681 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 1: played three games in a row. 682 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 4: And this is definitely the flip of what we used 683 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 4: to see because our. 684 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 6: Players never got hurt. 685 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 7: They want they want awards for being the most like 686 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 7: top rated team as far as like keeping their players 687 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 7: healthy and stuff. 688 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 4: They've won awards about that. 689 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 7: And just now, you know, as you get older, man, 690 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 7: that's kind of what happened. What happens, you know, it 691 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 7: creeps up on you and the things that you're injured 692 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 7: now wouldn't have happened three or four years ago. 693 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 2: The Patriots have the third best run defense in the league. 694 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 2: The Bills had one hundred and eighteen rushing yards against 695 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 2: the Patriots and the first time they played them in 696 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 2: Week five. How do they make it a ground and 697 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 2: pound game? 698 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 7: Well, I think you I think with New England, I 699 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 7: think you kind of want to mix it up. 700 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 6: But when you mix it up, I think you have 701 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 6: to have Josh in that mixing it up. 702 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think like more some quarterback runs exact costs 703 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 7: some more quarterback runs. I mean, this is I mean, 704 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 7: everybody got to be doing something right now at this 705 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 7: point in the season. 706 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 4: So I think it's different than hate run some quarterback draws. 707 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 7: You know what I mean, just you know, make them 708 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 7: aware that, Okay, what guy is going to be signaling 709 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 7: that I got Josh one on one? 710 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 6: Where can I get. 711 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 4: Him in a position where I can change things up? 712 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 7: So I do really think, you know, being having Josh 713 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,479 Speaker 7: and like, this is a big game, and Josh usually 714 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 7: come through in big games, and if he's involved with 715 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 7: the offens, I mean, I'd probably do it on the 716 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 7: first series. Let him run like it, let him run 717 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 7: just like this is, and if we gain ten or fifteen, 718 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 7: this is the way it's gonna be. And then and 719 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 7: then you kind of like, okay, what if you start 720 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 7: handing off the cook and booh five, heresy there or whatever. 721 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 7: So when you had when Josh is out there and 722 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 7: he's operating like that the way we want him to 723 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 7: operate every single week, it makes it so hard for 724 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,919 Speaker 7: the defense to try to control us. And we usually 725 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 7: score over thirty points, right we. 726 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: This has been one of the few teams I've seen 727 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: over the course of my experience as vast as it. 728 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, a couple of decades. 729 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: This team is able to run the football more and 730 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: score more points doing it than any team I've ever seen. 731 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that they could run the ball for two 732 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: undred and fifty yards and hang thirty on people. And 733 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: you never used to be able to see that, right, 734 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: I mean, he never used to see that, and yet 735 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: this one still does it. And Josh Brownie calls him 736 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: to Michael Jordan in the NFL. He scored is like 737 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: nobody else scores. He's gonna have another. He's gonna have 738 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: another forty touchdown season this year. Nobody's ever had as 739 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: many in a row as he has. And so you know, 740 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: their ability and desire and I don't know, willingness to 741 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: take the ball out of his hand and hand it 742 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: off and then to use him here and there and 743 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: just still score a ton of touchdowns is really I 744 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: don't get how they do it, but they do. They do. 745 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: I mean this helps. I mean snapping off a forty 746 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: yard touchdown with a guy, I mean, okay, that's a 747 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 1: nice score. That that that explains a little. That explains 748 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: a little of it, A lot. 749 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 4: Of that explains a lot of it right there. 750 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: And James Cook's emergence as well. 751 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 3: I mean, they got it going on. 752 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: But man, oh man, they just they're able to run 753 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: the football, dominate time of possession, and still get enough 754 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: possessions to hang thirty on people. 755 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 5: Yeah. 756 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 7: Yeah, and you know, and I think when you're looking 757 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 7: at that, you're like, you know what. 758 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 8: And Josh's he's put up numbers, but in past, I 759 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 8: mean he'd have at least six or seven three hundred 760 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,760 Speaker 8: or games by now, and he has how many? 761 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 6: Right? 762 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 3: Three? Maybe I got three week one. 763 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 6: Right, I think he has only three. 764 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 7: And so I mean I mean keeping that level, that 765 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 7: number down, but also having that run up around two 766 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 7: hundred to whatever. 767 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 4: I mean that that just it just wears you out. 768 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 2: One, two, three, Yeah, he's got three. 769 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he'd have that in September. 770 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 3: Four games. 771 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it yeah, So it was what do you 772 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: think this game? What do you think it's gonna look like? 773 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I said what I think. I think it's 774 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 1: gonna be a singles possession. I think it's going to 775 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: be really difficult to watch with any kind of calm demeanor. 776 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know, you know, maybe maybe a special teams. 777 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 6: Play the size the difference. 778 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 3: They got some pretty return guys. 779 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 6: He got some pretty good return guys. 780 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 7: I mean Mike Webriel, like once again, you know he's 781 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 7: a special team guy. 782 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 4: They know how to run. 783 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 7: This is an organization of the last whatever years, but 784 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 7: they have really they make special teams a part of 785 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 7: the game and that's why they have so many. 786 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 4: They run a great screen scheme down there. 787 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're really good. I'm really good, Josh, Josh McDaniel is. 788 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 3: We were talking about it before he came on. 789 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: He's a cut above. He's a really good offensive coordinator. 790 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: He had all those years with Brady and and you know, 791 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: Brady will give him some credit. You should give him 792 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: some credit as well, particularly when you see him do 793 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: it with a guy, you know, with Drake May. It's 794 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: not Tom Brady, it's Drake May. And Drake May's in 795 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: the conversation for the MVP, right. 796 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 7: And I think it was Josh Daniels that I said 797 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 7: a quote about three or four weeks ago about, you know, 798 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 7: like like telling Drake like Tom Brady wouldn't do this, 799 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 7: like like telling him like it was a court I 800 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 7: can't remember. 801 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 6: I'm sure Jay will find it. 802 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 7: But before you guys go, but it was a quote 803 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 7: like Tom Brady wouldn't do this. What do you think 804 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 7: Tom Brady would do in this situation? I'm like, man, 805 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 7: I'm like Josh, you're really throwing it at. 806 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 2: Me right now. 807 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, and so and Drake. 808 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 7: You know, he answered the question, you know, and it 809 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 7: was like, okay, let's go do it there. Yeah, I 810 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 7: mean they I mean, you know, you think I know 811 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 7: Josh McDaniel, you know, he had a couple of head 812 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 7: coaching or whatever. 813 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 4: But you know, and I think it was because of 814 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 4: Tom Brady. 815 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: Well, it's because of the success that they had, no doubt. 816 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 7: But you know, that's one of those situations that I 817 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 7: always say, like, yeah, you know, I would love to 818 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 7: be a head coach, but you know what, I'm gonna 819 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 7: sit here for twenty years and ride this young man 820 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 7: right here, like like Dick lebou you know, defense head coaching, No, 821 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 7: that's not my thing right there. 822 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 4: I'm a defensive cord. 823 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 3: Let's face it. Head coach is its own job. Of 824 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 3: coordinator's different job. 825 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: And you can be it's not a detriment that you're 826 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: not a head coach, but you're a fantastic coordinator. 827 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 3: I mean, there's nothing wrong with it. And he is. 828 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:07,479 Speaker 3: He's a really good. 829 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 6: Really good quarterback, really good quarterback coach. 830 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's something you're gonna have to contend with, Yeah, 831 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 1: he'll be there another twenty. 832 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 6: Right, he'll be there, another will be there another ten. 833 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 3: I mean it. 834 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 7: I mean they're they're kind of like wiping the five 835 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 7: years away all into one year now, where they you know, 836 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,879 Speaker 7: they didn't play well and so and they're back and 837 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 7: you know what, And like I said, I'm glad that 838 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 7: they are back. 839 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,240 Speaker 6: I'm glad. 840 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 3: You know. 841 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,839 Speaker 7: I don't even know what Miami and the Jets are 842 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 7: going to do in the division, but I think as 843 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 7: long as you have these two teams competing, it's going 844 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 7: to be a fun next six to eight years, especially Josh. 845 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about the Josh Allen factor in a 846 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,800 Speaker 2: game like this. When you look at the two teams, 847 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 2: both are top ten on offense in terms of what 848 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 2: they average scoring. The bill are about twenty nine, the 849 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 2: Patriots are twenty seven. Patriots defense has given up about 850 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 2: eighteen and a half points per game. The Patriots have 851 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 2: struggled in the red zone both on offense and defense, 852 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 2: worst red zone defense in the league. They're allowing touchdowns 853 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 2: at a rate of seventy three percent of the time 854 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:17,919 Speaker 2: in the red zone. 855 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,399 Speaker 3: So get you the red zone. 856 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 2: When I say those things what or who is the 857 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 2: X factor aside from Josh Allen. 858 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 7: Oh man, you know what, I'm gonna continue to be 859 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 7: X factor for me. You know, I want to say 860 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 7: James good, but I want to say I it's the 861 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 7: offensive line. It's our offensive line. I mean, I think 862 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 7: we haven't. You know, when you start throwing up the 863 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 7: numbers like cook is thrown up this year and Josh's 864 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,919 Speaker 7: numbers is down in passing, but and we're the number 865 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 7: one rushing team in the National Football League, you get 866 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 7: overlooked sometimes, Like these guys have done a hell of 867 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 7: a job, and I think it's going to be the 868 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 7: offensive line that's going to be the determining factor in 869 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 7: this whether they can keep keep people off of Josh, 870 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 7: and whether they can run the football control and really 871 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 7: like you know, have that time of possession like. 872 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 4: We've never had it before. 873 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 7: Like I mean a couple of weeks ago, we had 874 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 7: it for forty six minutes, right, you know. 875 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, so get. 876 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,720 Speaker 7: Into one of those situations to where if you're winning 877 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 7: that time of possession and not turning the. 878 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 6: Ball over. 879 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:24,240 Speaker 7: And have your defense create at least one or two turnovers, 880 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 7: that's it. I mean, that's I mean that's huge, and 881 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,919 Speaker 7: I think but it all falls on that offensive line. 882 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 9: Man. 883 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 7: If they come out, you know, ready to go. And 884 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 7: I think joshould be implemented into the to the game 885 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 7: plan early, you know, to let them know like hey, 886 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 7: we're we're all in from here on out. 887 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 6: No matter what. 888 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 2: Ye it'll be a fantastic game. I mean, I think 889 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,760 Speaker 2: everybody's looking forward to it. Week fifteen features an epic 890 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 2: slate of games. I know probably some people were surprised 891 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 2: like this didn't get flexed into a different window, but 892 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 2: there were so many good matchups in Week fifteen. The 893 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 2: NFL fans are definitely blessed with a week like this. 894 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 2: But thanks for coming on to hang out and break 895 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 2: down this huge matchup against the Patriots for Sunday. 896 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,240 Speaker 4: Absolutely welcome, Go Bills. 897 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 2: Go Bills. All right, we're gonna take a break, but 898 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 2: much more next when you come back on One Bill's Live. 899 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 2: We're presented by Clydehealth on Buffalo Bill's Radium. All right, 900 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 2: we're back here on One Bill's Live. Great conversation with 901 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 2: Thurman Thomas. I would love to watch a game with 902 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 2: the two of you together. That would just be appointment 903 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,800 Speaker 2: television right there would not be great. 904 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 3: It would not. 905 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 2: Be Hey, your phone blows up during games and I 906 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 2: know exactly who you're texting. 907 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 3: I tell you know, I've got this. We got this 908 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 3: text sloop. 909 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: It's Thurma Thomas, Jim Kelly, Andre Reid, Cornice Bennett, Darryl 910 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,800 Speaker 1: town Me, Chris Moore, Will Wolford. There's like six or 911 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: eight of Bruce Smith is in there too. He's on 912 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: the He's on the text loop as well. So all 913 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: you can imagine and they're all, you know, obviously huge 914 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 1: fans of the team, and we're talking about it, and 915 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 1: they've got a you know, a level of knowledge and 916 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 1: what they're and beliefs. 917 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 3: That you know a lot of people can't share. 918 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 1: So you know, you have these games where these people 919 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: we're all pulling our hair out. You can imagine how 920 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: that text loop goes when they start doing it. It's yeah, 921 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,359 Speaker 1: it's pretty funny sometimes. But I've never watched a game 922 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 1: with any of them. 923 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 2: That's crazy that you've never watched a game with any 924 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 2: of them. 925 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 6: I don't know. 926 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 1: If I want, I don't know. I couldn't do it, man, 927 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,359 Speaker 1: it would get so loud. I walked by the locker 928 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,879 Speaker 1: room today. I was going down to the room because 929 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,800 Speaker 1: going down the locker room down to the mailroom to 930 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 1: drop some stuff off. And I walked by the locker 931 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: room and I heard the din coming out of it. 932 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 1: They were having a discussion, which is it happens every 933 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: day they're in the locker room where And I was like, man, 934 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 1: I remember that so much. They I don't know it 935 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 1: was I I couldn't even tell what they were talking about. 936 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 1: But it was loud and it was boisterous, right, and 937 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 1: they were all that. Some were like that, you know, 938 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 1: and everybody's trying to warm up each other. Yeah, that's 939 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: what it would be like watching with those guys. It 940 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,799 Speaker 1: would get so loud you can just mute the TV. 941 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 2: One day, we're gonna make it happen. We're gonna shoot 942 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 2: video of it's gonna be still documentary. 943 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 1: Those guys are Yeah, there are different There are a 944 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 1: different bunch of cats, no question. 945 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 2: All right, it's time for Heating up and cooling down. 946 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 2: Presented by Team Mark HVAC and Plumbing, the official residential 947 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 2: HVAC partner of the Buffalo Bills. Heating Up is Buffalo's 948 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 2: defensive turnovers. They've had six takeaways in the last four games, 949 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,399 Speaker 2: which ties for third most in the league. You've seen 950 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 2: this defense really be able to turn it up a 951 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 2: notch and take over in ways in the second half 952 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 2: of games and when they need a turnover, when they 953 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 2: need to force a takeaway. Buffalo has been able to 954 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 2: do it as of late, which I think has been 955 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 2: so awesome to watch this defense do coming off of 956 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 2: last season when they ran it's top three in takeaways. 957 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can see too. 958 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,760 Speaker 1: I mean, the entire game hinged on the two consecutive plays, 959 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: one on the Benford pick six obviously, and the next 960 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: play from scrimmage after the kickoff. You know, a Japanessa 961 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,399 Speaker 1: catches the tip ball from Jordan Phillips and it's going 962 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 1: back the other way as well. It led to the 963 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 1: three straight touchdowns. The Bills went from down ten. 964 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,359 Speaker 3: To up eleven. Yeah, that's it. 965 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a quintessential example of how those things 966 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 1: change everything. So that's the fact that they're getting better 967 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,920 Speaker 1: on both sides of that. Certainly, the I'll say that 968 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,240 Speaker 1: James Cook has fumbled twice in the last two games. 969 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,919 Speaker 3: Each game fingers you can bet, you get you can bet. 970 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,240 Speaker 1: The conversation have been had already, and I say listen, 971 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,799 Speaker 1: you know. Uh so we'll see if they can clean 972 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 1: that up and continue to get turnovers. 973 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 2: Cooling down the Patriots run defense, I said, they're the 974 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 2: third best run defense in the league. That's if you 975 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 2: look at the season as a whole. Now, if you 976 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 2: look at the last three games, defensive tackle Milton Williams 977 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 2: not a part of the equation because he went on 978 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 2: IR on November fifteenth. So if you look at the 979 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 2: last three games, the Patriots are twentieth against the run, 980 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 2: allowing an average of one hundred and twenty three rushing 981 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 2: yards per game. Buffalo sits at eighteenth in terms of 982 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 2: run defense, which is quite an improvement from where they 983 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 2: have been for most of the season, just allowing one 984 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty two rushing yards per game. And if 985 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 2: you dig a little bit deeper into the run defense, 986 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 2: entering their bye week, which was last week, New England's 987 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 2: run defense ranked last and success rate over their previous 988 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,319 Speaker 2: four games, as they also have allowed an additional one 989 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 2: point three yards per carry four point nine total compared 990 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,760 Speaker 2: to their first nine games. 991 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: And those games were against the Jets, the Bengals, and 992 00:48:55,600 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 1: the Giants. Hope that continues. The Bills are better than 993 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 1: the Jets, Bengals, and the Giants in the run game, 994 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: so they're gonna have their work cutout for them. They're 995 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 1: gonna have They're gonna have a plan. Though they've had 996 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 1: an extra week, they've got the bye week, They're gonna 997 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 1: come fresh, and they will have a plan to stop 998 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,360 Speaker 1: Buffalo's running game first and foremost. They will probably feel 999 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 1: like they have to do that and it'll be job 1000 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 1: one for him. And let's see, it's gonna be There's 1001 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 1: going to be a test on both sides of the 1002 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:31,400 Speaker 1: ball for their defensive front and also Buffalo's offensive line. 1003 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 2: I do wonder if Buffalo's rushing offense feels like they've 1004 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 2: grown this muscle because of the game that happened against 1005 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 2: the Steelers. You rush for two hundred and forty nine 1006 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 2: yards against that defensive line, and you go up against 1007 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 2: the New England Patriots defense, it's one of the best 1008 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 2: in the NFL, but has struggled against the run as 1009 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 2: of late. Maybe this is a game you walk into 1010 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,879 Speaker 2: the stadium with Aaron Kromer as your guru, who's coming 1011 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 2: up with these run cons SAPs, and think we can 1012 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 2: do it. We can beat you in this category. 1013 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,840 Speaker 1: Well yeah, and well you know how it is. You 1014 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 1: can you can draw up the perfect play, but can 1015 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,760 Speaker 1: the can your exes? Can your o's block their exes? 1016 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 3: You know? 1017 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what it comes down to. You can 1018 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,319 Speaker 1: you can draw up the perfect play on paper with 1019 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 1: little lines and arrows, but your guys still have to win. 1020 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 1: And that's that's where you know, the rubber beats the 1021 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 1: road and will have to. You have to kind of 1022 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,239 Speaker 1: wait and see whether it's going to happen that. But 1023 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 1: you're right, Maddie, They're going to have a plan on 1024 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 1: both sides, and the Bill's running game is going to 1025 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:42,319 Speaker 1: be tested by a team that's expecting it, a good 1026 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 1: team that's expecting it. 1027 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I agree with you. 1028 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna I think the Bills have flexed 1029 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,319 Speaker 1: on so many teams this year in the run game 1030 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 1: and have never you know, they've learned not to abandon 1031 00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 1: it completely. And the fact that Josh is a part 1032 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 1: of it adds an extra degree of difficulty for defenses 1033 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 1: that is sometimes too. 1034 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:04,879 Speaker 3: Much for him. 1035 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 1: And it's yeah, I can't wait to see it. 1036 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 3: Well, I kind of I say that, and. 1037 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be watch but yeah, I think that's right. 1038 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. That the fact that the Patriots 1039 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 1: defense has struggled stopping the run without the defensive tackle 1040 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: it's injured. 1041 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 3: That's that's big. That's big. 1042 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 2: We gotta take a break. But coming up next, we 1043 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,840 Speaker 2: got NFL on CBS Sideline reporter Evan Washburn joining the 1044 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,239 Speaker 2: show to help break down everything we need to know 1045 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 2: for an epic Sunday game against the Patriots. We'll be 1046 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 2: back in a few minutes here on One Bill's Live, 1047 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,919 Speaker 2: represented by Clyde Health on Buffalo Bill's Breaking. 1048 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 1: This is One Bills Live, presented by called Laida Health. 1049 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 2: Welcome in to One Bills Live, Matti Glab alongside of 1050 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 2: Steve Tasker. Week fifteen is here. It features a epic 1051 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 2: matchup between the Bills and the Patriots. It feels like 1052 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,399 Speaker 2: the biggest game of the season. Bills are nine and four, 1053 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,840 Speaker 2: Patriots are eleven and two, writing a ten game win streak, 1054 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 2: a lot of meaning behind this one and to help 1055 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,840 Speaker 2: us talk about all of that is NFL on CBS 1056 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 2: Sideline reporter Evan Washburn, who joins us right now. Evan 1057 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 2: is also along with Ian Iroan Eagle JJ Watt, who 1058 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 2: are a part of the NFL on CBST coverage of 1059 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,239 Speaker 2: the Bills at Patriots for Sunday's matchup. Evan, thanks for 1060 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 2: taking the time to come and break down this matchup. 1061 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,759 Speaker 5: With us, no doubt excited for it. 1062 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,880 Speaker 2: Yes, this is a huge one. We've been talking about 1063 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,240 Speaker 2: it all day, pretty much all week here. It feels 1064 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 2: like we turn the page a little bit quicker than 1065 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:26,239 Speaker 2: we normally do, just because of the magnitude behind this matchup. 1066 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 2: When you started to study these two teams, what's the 1067 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 2: biggest thing that sticks out right now about what Sunday means? 1068 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,400 Speaker 9: There's so much to it, Maddie, and I think on 1069 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 9: the surface, there is the idea of changing of the guard. 1070 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,359 Speaker 9: I'm not sure I'm ready to go there yet. Yes, 1071 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 9: one of these two teams is going to win the 1072 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 9: AFC East New England's and the driver's seat. But I 1073 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 9: think these teams mirror themselves in a lot of ways. 1074 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:58,239 Speaker 9: And they have the MVP and Josh Allen and your 1075 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 9: Buffalo Bills up against the up and comer and Drake 1076 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 9: May and it really takes me back to twenty nineteen 1077 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,319 Speaker 9: when these two teams met in Week sixteen in New 1078 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,320 Speaker 9: England and it's almost as if the roles are reversed. 1079 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,080 Speaker 9: I think if you're a Bills fan, you're hoping that 1080 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 9: that's the case here in twenty twenty five, because New 1081 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,640 Speaker 9: England wins that game, they hold off Buffalo, they win 1082 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,439 Speaker 9: the division again their last time since they've now handed. 1083 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 5: It over to the Bills for the last five. 1084 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 9: Seasons and their season ended in the wildcard and the 1085 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:27,360 Speaker 9: Brady era was over. 1086 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:27,800 Speaker 5: In New England. 1087 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 9: But it's not that because Josh isn't going anywhere in 1088 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 9: Buffalo for hopefully a while now. But this is the 1089 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,400 Speaker 9: first time where they've had a real test, and I 1090 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 9: think the teams kind of play a similar brand of 1091 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 9: football in a lot of ways. It comes down in 1092 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,720 Speaker 9: my mind and you go to Week five, what team's 1093 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,640 Speaker 9: going to make the least amount of mistakes and who's 1094 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 9: going to be more effective in the red zone and 1095 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 9: that might decide this one. 1096 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 1: So Evan, I've got an affinity for you. What you 1097 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 1: do standing on the sidelines down there. I'm looking at 1098 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,239 Speaker 1: the ten day on Sunday is supposed to be high 1099 00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 1: of thirty one, low thirteen, showers in snow showers, in 1100 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,359 Speaker 1: the morning, like a fifty to fifty chance of precipitation. 1101 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,879 Speaker 1: Foxborough is gonna be cold. It's gonna it might be wet, 1102 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,960 Speaker 1: might be too wet to be wet. It might be 1103 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 1: too cold to be wet, it might be snowy. How 1104 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 1: do you think that effects that the Bills just had 1105 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 1: a game like that this week, this last week against Cincinnati. 1106 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 1: Is that anything to think about. 1107 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,920 Speaker 9: It's always something to think about. Taskar, Look, you lived 1108 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,040 Speaker 9: it as a player. You've been on the sidelines for 1109 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:31,520 Speaker 9: plenty of these games as well. 1110 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 5: It impacts all of us. 1111 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,840 Speaker 9: And I do think that Buffalo, because of Josh, because 1112 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 9: of their style of play, their comforting in it. You 1113 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 9: guys limited day to day and just haven't played in it. 1114 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,359 Speaker 9: In that game against the Bengals, I would give them 1115 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,720 Speaker 9: the edge in any weather situation. And New England doesn't 1116 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,479 Speaker 9: really run the ball that well, they would argue maybe 1117 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 9: that's by design. They use it as a way to 1118 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 9: set up things in the passing game. But as you know, 1119 00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 9: when conditions are not optimal on ground, game offensively can 1120 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 9: be really helpful. So I do think that would help 1121 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,479 Speaker 9: Buffalo if that is the case. I'm hoping that maybe 1122 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 9: the weather pushes through and we get a true clear, 1123 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:14,280 Speaker 9: yes cold, not windy game, and it kind of puts 1124 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 9: both teams in a position to perform at their best 1125 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,719 Speaker 9: and see who's going to come out on top. 1126 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,279 Speaker 2: New England's writing a ten game win streak. What's been 1127 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,439 Speaker 2: their identity during that span? 1128 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,880 Speaker 5: Consistency since Week three? Ball security? 1129 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,440 Speaker 9: They turned the ball over five times and that loss 1130 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,759 Speaker 9: to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Our crew was actually there for 1131 00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 9: that game. And if you'd have told me walking away 1132 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,799 Speaker 9: from that one that that team would then go on 1133 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,359 Speaker 9: and win ten games and we'd be having this conversation 1134 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 9: about them winning the afcast potentially on Sunday, would have 1135 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 9: told you were crazy, because they just look like a 1136 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 9: young team that had a clear foundation under Mike Rabel, 1137 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,640 Speaker 9: but not necessarily ready to make that push. 1138 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,920 Speaker 5: But they've been able to do it. And I think 1139 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:55,920 Speaker 5: it starts with. 1140 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 9: Not losing the ball, not turning over nearly as much, 1141 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,359 Speaker 9: and the efficiency in which Drake May has played. And 1142 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,319 Speaker 9: you can't give enough credit to Josh McDaniels in the 1143 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,839 Speaker 9: marriage that those two have had and just how he's 1144 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,799 Speaker 9: taken May's game to another level just above the shoulders too, 1145 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,719 Speaker 9: and I think that's where we all knew he had 1146 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 9: the physical gifts. Where he's impressed me most is just 1147 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,960 Speaker 9: his decision making. He just hasn't made a lot of 1148 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 9: poor decisions over the course of this ten game win streak. 1149 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 9: And defensively, they always play tough under Mike Rabel, and 1150 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,760 Speaker 9: they've done that. They're kind of near the top and 1151 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 9: a lot of the important categories outside of red zone, 1152 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,200 Speaker 9: and again I mentioned that off the top. I do 1153 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,000 Speaker 9: think that's gonna be something to really look at in 1154 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,200 Speaker 9: this game early. Are they trading seven for three? How's 1155 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,920 Speaker 9: that math going winning if they find themselves in the 1156 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 9: red zone. But it feels like an elevated version of 1157 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,920 Speaker 9: some of the Mike Rabel teams that he had in Tennessee. 1158 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,040 Speaker 9: Maybe not the elite level roster talent, but they're getting 1159 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,120 Speaker 9: a ton out of the rookies. And maybe it's a 1160 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 9: roster that will look at in a year or two 1161 00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 9: and go, oh, they actually are littered with guys we 1162 00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,600 Speaker 9: just didn't know who they were. They hit it in 1163 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,480 Speaker 9: free age and they've got a belief and Steve you 1164 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 9: know this, she played the game at a high level. 1165 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 9: This locker room believes they can go on and win 1166 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 9: this game and probably win a super Bowl, and just 1167 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 9: because all of us are surprised by it, they don't 1168 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 9: really care. 1169 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this seems like a team you can 1170 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 1: call the way you want, firing on all cylinders or 1171 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 1: well rounded. I mean, they get contributions from everybody crossing. 1172 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:28,560 Speaker 1: Never spectacular, but always extremely solid, high floor, and they 1173 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,400 Speaker 1: just don't make enough mistakes for any team to take 1174 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,000 Speaker 1: advantage of. And if you're going to beat them, you 1175 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 1: kind of have to play that way, no doubt. 1176 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,080 Speaker 9: And I should mention, and not just because we're talking 1177 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,680 Speaker 9: special teams. Has been unbelievable as well in terms of 1178 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,720 Speaker 9: the return game, the coverage and kickoffs and punt coverage. 1179 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,240 Speaker 9: Talked to Marcus Jones a little while ago. I mean, 1180 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,840 Speaker 9: I think he's as ultimate a weapon as you can 1181 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,360 Speaker 9: have when he's able to get a clean opportunity at 1182 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:55,080 Speaker 9: a punt return. 1183 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:56,440 Speaker 5: He's been dynamic. 1184 00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:57,840 Speaker 9: You just look at what he did in that Monday 1185 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,120 Speaker 9: night game against the Giants, and it's just it's. 1186 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 5: A group that. 1187 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 9: Feels like a version two point zero of some of 1188 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:10,120 Speaker 9: the Belichick teams, where they're not going to beat themselves 1189 00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 9: and then they're going to allow the opportunity to then 1190 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 9: beat you, and I think a lot of teams in 1191 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,320 Speaker 9: the NFL struggle with that because of their inability to 1192 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,600 Speaker 9: take care of the ball or in those critical possession 1193 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:26,000 Speaker 9: downs not make the right decision. It's a fun team 1194 00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,439 Speaker 9: to now have in the mix from our side of things. 1195 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 9: From a coverage standpoint, I know Bills fans aren't loving 1196 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 9: that they're doing this in the division, but I also 1197 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 9: think in the last point I would make on this 1198 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:40,320 Speaker 9: is it's fair to at least bring up the road 1199 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,400 Speaker 9: that they've had over the course of this ten game 1200 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 9: win streak. Outside of the Week five game against y'all, 1201 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 9: it's not been necessarily the top of the heap in 1202 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,520 Speaker 9: terms of the NFL, and I think that's helped them 1203 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 9: build some confidence and ability to feel really good coming 1204 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,440 Speaker 9: into this matchup in Week fifteen. 1205 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,800 Speaker 2: The Patriots will see Buffalo obviously this Sunday, and then 1206 00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:03,080 Speaker 2: the week after they've got the Baltimore Ravens. I want 1207 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,240 Speaker 2: to go back to the Josh McDaniels and Drake May 1208 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,400 Speaker 2: part of it all because so many people have said, Wow, 1209 01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:13,160 Speaker 2: what May and McDaniels have done together is amazing. Just 1210 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 2: a second year quarterback, a part of the MVP conversation 1211 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,880 Speaker 2: your most efficient passer this season. When it comes to 1212 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,600 Speaker 2: what McDaniels has done for May, what's been the biggest 1213 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,959 Speaker 2: part in May's development this season. 1214 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,720 Speaker 9: I think Mattie it would be his ability to teach 1215 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:34,360 Speaker 9: the position where yeah, there's the mechanical side of things 1216 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,000 Speaker 9: and the fundamentals and the ability to make the throws 1217 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,040 Speaker 9: and how to do all those things, but it's more 1218 01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:43,120 Speaker 9: above the shoulders and giving May the opportunity to learn 1219 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 9: how to truly play the position and not necessarily have 1220 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,480 Speaker 9: all the answers prior to the snap, but put him 1221 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 9: in a position too if he wants to, if he 1222 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,959 Speaker 9: wants to dig in intellectually and learn how to play 1223 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 9: it at the highest level, which when you look at 1224 01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:01,280 Speaker 9: guys like Josh Mahomes, obviously Tom and Hayton before him, 1225 01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 9: Drew Brees, those guys are playing the game intellectually at 1226 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 9: a different level what they see pre snap and post snap. 1227 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,320 Speaker 9: And I think that's where, going back to the point 1228 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,640 Speaker 9: made earlier, we didn't know that about Drake May. We 1229 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,640 Speaker 9: just knew him as this physically gifted, really young raw 1230 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,880 Speaker 9: player coming out of UNC and can make all the throws, 1231 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,120 Speaker 9: do all those things in the workouts and the combines 1232 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 9: and even in the times that he played last year, 1233 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,120 Speaker 9: even though it was an unsuccessful season in terms of results. 1234 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 9: I even think of when he played you guys late 1235 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 9: in the season. Our crew had that game. It was cold, 1236 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 9: it was kind of nasty. It was a four h 1237 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,160 Speaker 9: five or I think week sixteen or seventeen, and just 1238 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,120 Speaker 9: watching him warm up and the way he throws the ball. 1239 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 9: But this year it's been about how he and Josh 1240 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:42,840 Speaker 9: have got into a place over the course of the 1241 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 9: season where you can see he's just his calmness of 1242 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,560 Speaker 9: his feet, he's playing the game on his terms and 1243 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,760 Speaker 9: just making the right play. And Mike Rabel points out 1244 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,360 Speaker 9: some of his highlights in the coach's mind, Maddie would 1245 01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 9: be the place the throws, he's not making the scram 1246 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,680 Speaker 9: that he's making the decisions he's making based off of 1247 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,760 Speaker 9: the situational football. So it's it's really been above the 1248 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 9: shoulders to me that Josh mc daniels has really made 1249 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,160 Speaker 9: his impact on Drake matt In. 1250 01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:14,280 Speaker 1: The last month or so, Milton Williams went down the 1251 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,640 Speaker 1: defensive tackle and up and even now they're the number 1252 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,360 Speaker 1: three run defense in the league. 1253 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,200 Speaker 3: Are the Patriots, but. 1254 01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,320 Speaker 1: Over the last three or four weeks they're at the 1255 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:27,840 Speaker 1: twentieth ranked run defense. Milton Williams has obviously made a 1256 01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:31,200 Speaker 1: difference the teams they have played over the last three weeks. 1257 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 1: Was it was not a gauntlet. It was you know, 1258 01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,600 Speaker 1: it was Cincinnati, it was the Giants, it was the Jets. 1259 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,280 Speaker 1: And they've struggled to stop the run to the point 1260 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,720 Speaker 1: where they're, you know, where they were early in the season. 1261 01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 1: Milton Williams is still going to be out of this game. 1262 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,120 Speaker 1: And the Bills are a really good running football team. 1263 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,160 Speaker 1: How you know, what is going to be the plan 1264 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:56,200 Speaker 1: for the Patriots? You think to not let that happen 1265 01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,880 Speaker 1: given their you know, the injuries they've sustained. 1266 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 9: That's a great point and I think that's where the 1267 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,840 Speaker 9: chess match when it comes to Mike Vrabel and he's 1268 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,400 Speaker 9: got Zach Kern who's kind of taken over that play 1269 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,800 Speaker 9: calling duty, But make no mistake, Raves is going to 1270 01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,240 Speaker 9: have his impact on how they call this defense. And 1271 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:15,960 Speaker 9: I think how. 1272 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:16,520 Speaker 5: He've used this. 1273 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:21,240 Speaker 9: He's got that scheme to him where he's going to see, 1274 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,960 Speaker 9: all right, we're deficient in this area, and they're not 1275 01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,000 Speaker 9: going to shy away from acknowledging that. But we're going 1276 01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 9: to have to sell out to stop James Cook. He's 1277 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,000 Speaker 9: made that point in terms of his respect for what 1278 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 9: Cook's been able to do throughout this week, and that's 1279 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,800 Speaker 9: something that honestly, we don't know right now and they 1280 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:39,240 Speaker 9: don't want us to know. I think we're going to 1281 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 9: find out early in this game if it's bringing another 1282 01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 9: defender into the box and how that affects things and 1283 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,040 Speaker 9: what that allows maybe Josh to do and Joe to 1284 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:52,000 Speaker 9: do in terms of play calling to attack things through 1285 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:52,360 Speaker 9: the air. 1286 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,520 Speaker 5: But they know that Buffalo's. 1287 01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,640 Speaker 9: Coming in to New England wanting to run the ball 1288 01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 9: to establish everything they do. And you're right, they've been 1289 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,760 Speaker 9: vulnerable in that spot since Milton Williams went down and 1290 01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 9: he's not available, so they've been throwing bodies at it 1291 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,680 Speaker 9: and it worked against the Giants on Monday night. But 1292 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,640 Speaker 9: this is a different beast, as you guys well know, 1293 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 9: in what Buffalo brings in that department. 1294 01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,200 Speaker 2: Over in New England's ten game win streak, the offense 1295 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,400 Speaker 2: and defense and special teams have been very complimentary, which 1296 01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,880 Speaker 2: is hard to sustain for that long, the offensive has 1297 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,440 Speaker 2: averaged more than twenty three points per game and the 1298 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:30,480 Speaker 2: defense has allowed under twenty three points per game. Longest 1299 01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,360 Speaker 2: streak in a single season in NFL history where the 1300 01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,479 Speaker 2: broken parts have been are in the red zone, both 1301 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:40,280 Speaker 2: offensively and defensively. What is going wrong for the Patriots 1302 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:41,480 Speaker 2: when they get to the red zone? 1303 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,400 Speaker 5: I think it's just really challenging. 1304 01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,600 Speaker 9: And that's where a guy like Josh at this point 1305 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 9: in his career can make some plays and see some 1306 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,360 Speaker 9: things that a guy in year two, even if he's 1307 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:57,400 Speaker 9: playing at an MVP caliber pace, maybe doesn't see. And 1308 01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:01,280 Speaker 9: maybe the fact that they don't have a one. 1309 01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:02,800 Speaker 5: A ALPHA receiver. 1310 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,960 Speaker 9: They have a quality tight end in Hunter Henry, but 1311 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 9: they don't have a gotta have it guy. I mean, 1312 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,840 Speaker 9: I would say Diggs is probably that Mac Collins is. 1313 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,720 Speaker 9: Actually it's a lot of former Bills that have been 1314 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,520 Speaker 9: really effective in some of those situations when they have 1315 01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,439 Speaker 9: found seven in the red zone. They've been a big 1316 01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,840 Speaker 9: play offense in a lot of ways, and so they 1317 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 9: haven't been in the red zone maybe as much. But no, 1318 01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:26,960 Speaker 9: I think Maddie it's a great, great point, and we've 1319 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,240 Speaker 9: touched on it a couple of times here both teams, 1320 01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:33,680 Speaker 9: how and look, Buffalo defensively, I think they're twenty three 1321 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,240 Speaker 9: to twenty fourth in terms of red zone defense. So 1322 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,320 Speaker 9: two units that maybe aren't it where they want to 1323 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,680 Speaker 9: be in that department. Whoever has the edge in that 1324 01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:46,000 Speaker 9: area I think will go a long way in determining 1325 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:46,880 Speaker 9: who wins this game. 1326 01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,400 Speaker 1: Evan, what are your thoughts about how this game is 1327 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:55,400 Speaker 1: gonna look? I mean the big picture, every season, every 1328 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,400 Speaker 1: matchup between these two is a single possession game. It 1329 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:02,520 Speaker 1: has been for almost double digit matchups. The first game 1330 01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:04,480 Speaker 1: this season, the Bills turn it over three times and 1331 01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,400 Speaker 1: it's still a three point game at the end, and 1332 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,760 Speaker 1: the Patriots kick a walk off. It's gonna be one 1333 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:13,800 Speaker 1: of those games. What do you think, I mean, what's 1334 01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:15,360 Speaker 1: it gonna take for one of these teams to get 1335 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,520 Speaker 1: an edge and maybe get a lead where they don't 1336 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:18,880 Speaker 1: have to sit on the edge of your seats and 1337 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:19,920 Speaker 1: chew your fingernails. 1338 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,480 Speaker 9: Oh, we're hoping that that's the case, because that, as 1339 01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,920 Speaker 9: you know, on our side of the coin, is most important. 1340 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 9: We want to entertainment, and that usually happens late in games. Look, 1341 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,400 Speaker 9: the things that come to mind Steve and Maddie when 1342 01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,360 Speaker 9: it comes to this matchup, and it falls in line 1343 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:41,120 Speaker 9: with your question there, Steve, it's the difference between Josh 1344 01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,560 Speaker 9: and this Bills offense home and away. So now they're 1345 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,520 Speaker 9: going on the road and not that they've been terrible 1346 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,640 Speaker 9: on the road in terms of performance, but the numbers 1347 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:52,680 Speaker 9: take a dip. But also New England since that Buffalo 1348 01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:56,040 Speaker 9: game in Week five in your backyard, has not been 1349 01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:57,880 Speaker 9: in a second half where they've been down. 1350 01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:58,920 Speaker 5: They haven't had to. 1351 01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,320 Speaker 9: Now, they've been in some tight situations, they've had to 1352 01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,720 Speaker 9: play out games to win them, but they haven't had 1353 01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,720 Speaker 9: to claw back. And then on the flip side, as 1354 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,960 Speaker 9: you all well know, the Bills have lived in terms 1355 01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:13,240 Speaker 9: of second half point differential and just being able to 1356 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,920 Speaker 9: turn things on in those critical moments late in games, 1357 01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,120 Speaker 9: late in the third fourth quarter, and they've been at 1358 01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,560 Speaker 9: their best in the second half. So all those contrasting 1359 01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:27,640 Speaker 9: aspects of the roads for these two teams to get 1360 01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:32,120 Speaker 9: here makes this on paper lineup as which group's going 1361 01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:33,080 Speaker 9: to be able to play the. 1362 01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:34,080 Speaker 5: Game on their term. 1363 01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,960 Speaker 9: Stylistically, I think if it's New England, they want to 1364 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,080 Speaker 9: get out in front. Not necessarily there's no one. I 1365 01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:40,920 Speaker 9: don't think in either side's going to be blown anyone 1366 01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 9: out in this game, but control the game from the 1367 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,920 Speaker 9: first half into the second half and not have to 1368 01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:51,160 Speaker 9: fight their way back because that's unfamiliar territory for a team. 1369 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:52,720 Speaker 5: That plays a lot of rookies. 1370 01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,720 Speaker 9: That's the other thing too, At least as of Monday night, 1371 01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,120 Speaker 9: and there's been a bye week where nobody played. The 1372 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,520 Speaker 9: Patriots were second in the NFL rookie snap totals, So 1373 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:03,360 Speaker 9: to be able to do this to a lot of 1374 01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,520 Speaker 9: young guys, this is gonna be their biggest game as pros. 1375 01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,240 Speaker 9: And then even for a guy like Drake May it's 1376 01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,600 Speaker 9: his biggest game as a pro. Second half when things 1377 01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,440 Speaker 9: get tight, that crowd's a little nervous, as you mentioned, 1378 01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:17,840 Speaker 9: chewing their fingernails. I would say I'd lean more towards Buffalo. 1379 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,600 Speaker 9: So I think just how the game starts, who's dictating 1380 01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,880 Speaker 9: tempo and style, and obviously the scoreboard into the second 1381 01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:28,559 Speaker 9: half will give us a real sense of again, who's 1382 01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:34,040 Speaker 9: gonna win this incredibly critical matchup here in week fifteen. 1383 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,120 Speaker 2: We've talked a lot about the Patriots, but got one 1384 01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,920 Speaker 2: more for you before we wrap things up. As it 1385 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,599 Speaker 2: relates to Buffalo. In the last two games, you see 1386 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,719 Speaker 2: them go to Pittsburgh and rush for two undred forty 1387 01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:48,599 Speaker 2: nine yards a record at Pittsburgh, and then last week 1388 01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,720 Speaker 2: against the Bengals, you see Josh Allen go off for 1389 01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:55,680 Speaker 2: four touchdowns. The defense has a pick six. The takeaways 1390 01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:59,000 Speaker 2: have been coming in bunches for Buffalo's defense as of late. 1391 01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:02,040 Speaker 2: What type of team is Buffalo becoming at this point 1392 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:02,639 Speaker 2: in the season. 1393 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:08,160 Speaker 9: They're becoming a team who knows they can win ugly, 1394 01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:10,479 Speaker 9: they can win in a variety of ways, and I 1395 01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,760 Speaker 9: think that's extremely dangerous this time of year. They know 1396 01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:17,360 Speaker 9: who they are. I think the words that Sean used postgame, 1397 01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,719 Speaker 9: you guys might know. I'm sure you've already played it. 1398 01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,120 Speaker 9: It was something to the effect of he likes the 1399 01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:26,000 Speaker 9: fabric in which this team is starting to resemble or 1400 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,240 Speaker 9: look like. And I took that as, Yeah, it's not 1401 01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:31,439 Speaker 9: going to be as clean as they would like it 1402 01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,000 Speaker 9: to be. There's going to be deficiencies based off of 1403 01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,800 Speaker 9: a lack of availability. I would point to on the 1404 01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:38,840 Speaker 9: defensive side of the ball. They want to stop the 1405 01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,160 Speaker 9: run better than they have. They want to do things 1406 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,160 Speaker 9: probably more efficiently than they have. They want to stop 1407 01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,919 Speaker 9: turning it over in times, putting themselves in these positions 1408 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,960 Speaker 9: late in games for Josh to make these heroic plays. 1409 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,400 Speaker 9: But they know who they are and they've been there before. 1410 01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,599 Speaker 9: And the longer I'm in and around this league doing 1411 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,320 Speaker 9: this job at this point in the season, and then 1412 01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:04,599 Speaker 9: most important in January, the experience of these moments and 1413 01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:08,599 Speaker 9: the scar tissue, both positively and negatively of December games 1414 01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:12,720 Speaker 9: and then January games, I think is extremely valuable. And 1415 01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:16,240 Speaker 9: that's what again makes this game so exciting to preview 1416 01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:17,160 Speaker 9: and get set for. 1417 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,880 Speaker 5: You have a team in Buffalo who, as you laid 1418 01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:21,160 Speaker 5: out Maddie is. 1419 01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,640 Speaker 9: Doing it in a certain way and it's starting to 1420 01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:25,439 Speaker 9: work and they're starting to have that belief and you 1421 01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,280 Speaker 9: guys have been around it long enough to know what 1422 01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:27,880 Speaker 9: that means. 1423 01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:29,120 Speaker 5: And New England on. 1424 01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,400 Speaker 9: The flip side, it's so fresh, it's so new, it's 1425 01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,559 Speaker 9: so exciting. But I know in the back at least fans' 1426 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,080 Speaker 9: minds and maybe those that cover the team, I can't 1427 01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,400 Speaker 9: speak for those guys in the locker room and those coaches, 1428 01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,240 Speaker 9: there's still this level of, like what happens when we're 1429 01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,800 Speaker 9: in one of those moments in December against a team 1430 01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:47,839 Speaker 9: like Buffalo and a quarterback like Josh. 1431 01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:49,720 Speaker 5: We don't know yet. Well we're going to find out 1432 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:51,000 Speaker 5: on Sunday, and that's awesome. 1433 01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:51,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1434 01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,479 Speaker 2: Thanks having take some learning for sure. Thank you so much, Evan, 1435 01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,000 Speaker 2: appreciate it. We won't be there on Sunday, but we 1436 01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,000 Speaker 2: hope you have a great game and we can't wait 1437 01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:00,080 Speaker 2: to watch you on TV. 1438 01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:02,360 Speaker 5: Thanks guys. 1439 01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:06,640 Speaker 2: All right, that was NFL on CBS sideline reporter Evan Washburn. 1440 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,679 Speaker 2: Evan's also a part of the crew with Iron Eagle 1441 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:14,360 Speaker 2: and JJ Watt NFL on CBS coverage of the Bills 1442 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:18,519 Speaker 2: at the Patriots on Sunday. It all starts at one o'clock, 1443 01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:23,599 Speaker 2: and Evan made a great point about the Patriots. Yes, 1444 01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:27,280 Speaker 2: they've been there before with different regimes, but with Mike Rabel, 1445 01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,639 Speaker 2: with Drake May, with all the rookies that Evan talked 1446 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:34,760 Speaker 2: about that are taking meaningful snaps this season. It takes 1447 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:39,240 Speaker 2: me back to twenty nineteen when Josh Allen was a 1448 01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:43,920 Speaker 2: young quarterback and was learning about what the NFL is 1449 01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:47,439 Speaker 2: and what playoff football means and what it takes to 1450 01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,880 Speaker 2: win in the postseason. And I think back to that 1451 01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:53,479 Speaker 2: game against the Houston Texans in the postseason, that first game. 1452 01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:56,880 Speaker 2: It was great that Buffalo got there, but at that 1453 01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,840 Speaker 2: point in Allen's career, with the young players that he 1454 01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:02,759 Speaker 2: had around him, it was like, this is a learning 1455 01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,400 Speaker 2: experience and next year it's going to be better. 1456 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:06,639 Speaker 3: And you think about what happened. 1457 01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:08,439 Speaker 1: They jumped out to a sixteen or nothing lead at 1458 01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:12,040 Speaker 1: halftime and it ended up losing that game as a result, 1459 01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:15,960 Speaker 1: you know, and in the result and final and remember 1460 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:17,920 Speaker 1: that was the game with the kickoff where the guy 1461 01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:19,439 Speaker 1: tossed the ball to the ground and it was a 1462 01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:23,160 Speaker 1: touchdown for the Bills and the league took it back. Yeah, 1463 01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,760 Speaker 1: that guy no longer works for the NFL anyway. So yeah, 1464 01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,160 Speaker 1: a lot going on in that that. That's right though 1465 01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:32,920 Speaker 1: they don't know that. You can don't. You can't take 1466 01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:34,680 Speaker 1: it for granted that they're gonna fold up when they 1467 01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:36,040 Speaker 1: get when the lights get bright. 1468 01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:37,759 Speaker 3: But certainly the Bills won't. 1469 01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:42,400 Speaker 1: We have seen them rise up Josh's It's been well documented. 1470 01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,160 Speaker 1: Josh has a pension for playing big in moments like that. 1471 01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:51,200 Speaker 1: Twenty thrives and something about his mentality carries him through 1472 01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,559 Speaker 1: on that, and you know he turns he has something 1473 01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,120 Speaker 1: an extra gear that he can go to. We'll see 1474 01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,879 Speaker 1: if Drake May has that, and some of the Patriots 1475 01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:02,559 Speaker 1: players have that. It's gonna be a huge matchup though, 1476 01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,439 Speaker 1: and it's what a game it's gonna be. And like 1477 01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,360 Speaker 1: I said, I the Bills really. 1478 01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,760 Speaker 3: Need to win this game. This is a big one. 1479 01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:14,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. Buffalo is nineteen and three in December since twenty 1480 01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:18,280 Speaker 2: twenty with Sean McDermott and Josh Allen at the helm 1481 01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,960 Speaker 2: alongside of Brandon Bean. It's a fantastic record that not 1482 01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,360 Speaker 2: a lot of teams have even come close to, and 1483 01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:27,080 Speaker 2: that's because of Buffalo's ability to dial it in when 1484 01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,599 Speaker 2: it matters most. We're gonna take a break, but when 1485 01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,760 Speaker 2: we return a lot more coming up. 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Yeah, okay, here you go, Steve. 1502 01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:43,600 Speaker 2: This is from Dwayne the freezing cold game against the 1503 01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:46,640 Speaker 2: Raiders in the playoffs when Tasker snatched the ball out 1504 01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,000 Speaker 2: of the air and Willie Galt chased him down just 1505 01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:52,599 Speaker 2: short of the end zone, and amazing play. How hard 1506 01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:53,639 Speaker 2: was that football? 1507 01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:55,599 Speaker 3: Everything was hard in that game. 1508 01:14:56,000 --> 01:15:00,320 Speaker 1: The thing you worry about mostly, I didn't anticipate handling 1509 01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,680 Speaker 1: the football right. I was an up back, and I 1510 01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,479 Speaker 1: was gunner, and I was a specialty covering kicks. I 1511 01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:07,479 Speaker 1: was a wide out and but I you know, no 1512 01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:08,920 Speaker 1: plans for me to get in the rotation. 1513 01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:10,599 Speaker 3: So the ball. 1514 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:12,840 Speaker 1: They kicked the ball to me and I had long 1515 01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,040 Speaker 1: white sleeves under my jersey and it was just it 1516 01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,720 Speaker 1: was just a I don't know nyle of cotton or 1517 01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:18,479 Speaker 1: a thing, but I. 1518 01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:21,559 Speaker 3: Had two layers underneath that. I mean, I was totally 1519 01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:22,160 Speaker 3: layered up. 1520 01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,040 Speaker 1: The worry is when you tuck the ball away, your 1521 01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:28,280 Speaker 1: arms slippery because of the this is the play. Your 1522 01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,519 Speaker 1: arms slippery because of the cloth on it instead of 1523 01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,400 Speaker 1: the skin. Your skin kind of sticks to the ball. 1524 01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:38,240 Speaker 1: So I'm running down the sideline and you realize I 1525 01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:42,240 Speaker 1: might have too many clothes on to actually run well, right, 1526 01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:45,600 Speaker 1: Willie Gault ran me down and I, you know, the 1527 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,960 Speaker 1: same guy was talking about earlier in the show, Bud Carpenter. 1528 01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,160 Speaker 1: I got off the sideline. I was a pretty fast guy, right, 1529 01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,280 Speaker 1: and I was like, well, who, I mean, who caught 1530 01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:54,680 Speaker 1: was that? Because I couldn't you know, I didn't know 1531 01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:58,320 Speaker 1: who was And he said, yeah, it was Dan Turk. Well, 1532 01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,760 Speaker 1: Dan was a long snapper for the Raiders, who was 1533 01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,479 Speaker 1: you know, kind of heavy guy's aligneman. I was like 1534 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,799 Speaker 1: Dan Turk and I sat there for me. I go, wait, wow, 1535 01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,200 Speaker 1: must have had the angle or something. And then I 1536 01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:12,920 Speaker 1: see the replay. It was like Willie Gold, who was 1537 01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:17,240 Speaker 1: an Olympic athlete, that's like he dog. So yeah, that 1538 01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,200 Speaker 1: game was the coldest game in Bill's history. It was 1539 01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:24,559 Speaker 1: a bright sunny day. They cleared, they brushed the field off. 1540 01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:30,679 Speaker 3: It was it was beyond cold, Maddie, it was beyond cold. 1541 01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:32,519 Speaker 2: You know. 1542 01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,400 Speaker 1: The Bill's player offensive line played, you know, did the 1543 01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:39,559 Speaker 1: thing where they come out for pregame warm ups sleeveless, right, 1544 01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:44,439 Speaker 1: and and it was a thing and it still is. 1545 01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:46,840 Speaker 1: Probably that the opponent like they're coming in, they know 1546 01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,160 Speaker 1: we live here, like we practice in it, we do 1547 01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,240 Speaker 1: this in it, and they go, oh, they're going sleeveless, 1548 01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:54,400 Speaker 1: so that must be what you do. So after pregames 1549 01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:56,280 Speaker 1: they go in and they take the sleeves off. 1550 01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:57,879 Speaker 3: Our guys put. 1551 01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:00,880 Speaker 1: Them on before between the pregame war up, and they 1552 01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,280 Speaker 1: come off the field and they put their sleeves on. 1553 01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:08,280 Speaker 1: So the Raiders guys take theirs off, so they got 1554 01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,080 Speaker 1: to play the game without them to begin with until 1555 01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:10,880 Speaker 1: they can put them back on. 1556 01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,439 Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's the way. It's the way it works. 1557 01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:16,800 Speaker 1: So our guys go out sleeveless, come back out to 1558 01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,599 Speaker 1: play the game with sleeves on and the raiders were 1559 01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:20,880 Speaker 1: just the opposite. 1560 01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:24,120 Speaker 3: And then they couldn't you know. 1561 01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:25,720 Speaker 1: They always set cups of water out for guys to 1562 01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:27,240 Speaker 1: come over and just get a quick drink. Now they 1563 01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,920 Speaker 1: have guys with bottles that they'd squired in. They used 1564 01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:31,960 Speaker 1: to be cups on the sideline and they got tired 1565 01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:35,040 Speaker 1: of seeing like five thousand cups scattered all over the sidelines. 1566 01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,720 Speaker 1: It looked bad. So they have bottles now. But the 1567 01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,559 Speaker 1: cups they set them out to free to drink, and 1568 01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:44,160 Speaker 1: they were all frozen, stiff, frozen solid, and it was all. 1569 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:44,960 Speaker 3: Gatorade back then. 1570 01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:50,439 Speaker 1: Now they do they do hot stuff like broth. It's 1571 01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:53,640 Speaker 1: all changed. Everything's you know, evolved from that. But on 1572 01:17:53,680 --> 01:18:03,240 Speaker 1: that play, their kicker, Jeff Gossip, he his plants hard. 1573 01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,400 Speaker 1: He planted hard, and I thought, yeah, he might slide 1574 01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,360 Speaker 1: and his foot might and he did. He lined drive 1575 01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:09,439 Speaker 1: the he lined drive the kick it came to me. 1576 01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,639 Speaker 1: I was able to catch it off my right shoulder 1577 01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:14,760 Speaker 1: and head down the sidelines and I was going the 1578 01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,439 Speaker 1: other way because he line drived it and I was 1579 01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:19,479 Speaker 1: going the other way. Before the coverage guys even knew 1580 01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,120 Speaker 1: who had the ball, so I got by that first, 1581 01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,759 Speaker 1: like I do a little hot jump cut right right there, 1582 01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,080 Speaker 1: and those two guys that was it. No, there was 1583 01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,960 Speaker 1: nobody left and it was just gosted. He made a 1584 01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:34,479 Speaker 1: stab for me and he couldn't get there. I thought 1585 01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,360 Speaker 1: I might get there, WILLI galt rent. He could have 1586 01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,240 Speaker 1: run a circle around me and still can't tackle me. 1587 01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:41,719 Speaker 3: He was so fast. But uh, the ball was really hard. 1588 01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,519 Speaker 1: You see in the old photographs sometimes they pushed the 1589 01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,240 Speaker 1: snow up on the against the wall that everybody knows, 1590 01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:51,200 Speaker 1: you know. Now we're so familiar with the walls around 1591 01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,559 Speaker 1: this field and you think, like wow, you go over 1592 01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,639 Speaker 1: there and jump in the in the in the wall, 1593 01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:59,640 Speaker 1: and like no, the snow pushed against the wall was 1594 01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,640 Speaker 1: hard as a rock. You could walk right up on 1595 01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:03,760 Speaker 1: top of the snow bank. 1596 01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,840 Speaker 3: It was just it was ice. It was like rock. 1597 01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:10,040 Speaker 1: So it wasn't like you could even pack it together 1598 01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:11,720 Speaker 1: with it. You had to snap pieces of it. 1599 01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:12,200 Speaker 3: It was so. 1600 01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,120 Speaker 1: Cold, gosh, you could stand on it and you wouldn't 1601 01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:21,800 Speaker 1: sink in the snow. People were people were absolutely you know, 1602 01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:27,439 Speaker 1: just you know, just freezing, just suffering in the stands. 1603 01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,200 Speaker 1: It's a full house. I mean, there's bless their hearts. Bills, 1604 01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:34,439 Speaker 1: Mafia showed up, but it was it was it was 1605 01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:37,600 Speaker 1: so cold, so cold. 1606 01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:43,120 Speaker 2: Oh okay, at that point when you're playing and it's 1607 01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,880 Speaker 2: that cold, there's no there's no warm chicken broth on 1608 01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,960 Speaker 2: the sideline, there's no there's no hot chocolate. What are 1609 01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,960 Speaker 2: the coaches telling you about how to stay warm? Or 1610 01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:56,719 Speaker 2: was it like you, guys, just play the game, it'll 1611 01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:58,720 Speaker 2: be fine, don't think about how cold it is. 1612 01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,160 Speaker 1: Don't think about it too much, because we had heated benches. 1613 01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,200 Speaker 1: So they've got those turbo heaters going down through the 1614 01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:05,200 Speaker 1: white benches. You sit on those and you can stay 1615 01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:08,439 Speaker 1: warm with a with a blanket, with a poncho over you. 1616 01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,760 Speaker 1: You can kind of stay warm and you keep your hand. 1617 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:12,479 Speaker 1: They have slots where your fingers can go in and 1618 01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:17,000 Speaker 1: you can stay warm. It's better for the players on 1619 01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:18,920 Speaker 1: the field, both the guys on the field who are 1620 01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:20,800 Speaker 1: playing and the guys on the sidelines, than it is 1621 01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:22,800 Speaker 1: for any of the fans that are sitting out in 1622 01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,800 Speaker 1: the stadium. They you know, they make an effort to 1623 01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,439 Speaker 1: keep take care of us, and it works. I mean, 1624 01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:30,200 Speaker 1: you can stay warm and you can you know, they 1625 01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,080 Speaker 1: have turbo heaters at both ends of the benches. You 1626 01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,360 Speaker 1: can go stand in front of the hot air that's 1627 01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:37,000 Speaker 1: coming out, but the area where it keeps warm is 1628 01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:43,839 Speaker 1: smaller than usual. But that I mean you are always 1629 01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:45,000 Speaker 1: looking to get warm. 1630 01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:45,639 Speaker 10: Oh. 1631 01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:47,479 Speaker 1: If you're out on the field and you're coming off, 1632 01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:50,120 Speaker 1: you don't think about it because you're concentrating so hard 1633 01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:53,120 Speaker 1: during the game and you're practice, you're competing, so you 1634 01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:57,200 Speaker 1: don't really think about it. But when you when you 1635 01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:01,000 Speaker 1: come off the field, it hits you. They're like, oh, man, 1636 01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:04,160 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta get I gotta stay warm because 1637 01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,200 Speaker 1: it goes so fast. You know, you can go downhill 1638 01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:09,160 Speaker 1: so fast, you know what I mean, It doesn't take 1639 01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:14,639 Speaker 1: it only takes a minute to be like numb, right 1640 01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:16,360 Speaker 1: because it was so cold, so you really had to 1641 01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,559 Speaker 1: stay on top of it, and it was an extra 1642 01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:22,519 Speaker 1: degree of difficulty. Everybody had one of the raiders wide receivers, 1643 01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:27,120 Speaker 1: I can't remember his name, couldn't play. He sat on 1644 01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:29,439 Speaker 1: the bench and they just they stacked blankets on him, 1645 01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:32,200 Speaker 1: and he what he sat there and he was he 1646 01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:35,360 Speaker 1: was almost in a in like a trance, in a daze, 1647 01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:38,759 Speaker 1: kind of trying to stay awake. He just couldn't function 1648 01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:41,640 Speaker 1: in that cold weather. What and it wasn't like he 1649 01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:44,360 Speaker 1: was you know, he just he didn't know. He didn't 1650 01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,400 Speaker 1: you know, he didn't know how to handle it. His 1651 01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:49,680 Speaker 1: body and he and he was incapacitated by it. 1652 01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:53,160 Speaker 3: He just sat there on the bench and just he couldn't. 1653 01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:55,520 Speaker 3: It was debilitating. 1654 01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:59,640 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. We had tray wite tray white on 1655 01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:02,479 Speaker 2: in side the charge earlier this week, and Trey talked 1656 01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:05,360 Speaker 2: about just that. He said, he loves playing in the snow, 1657 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,360 Speaker 2: but when his fingers and toes go, that is the 1658 01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:11,880 Speaker 2: hardest thing to deal with and get warm again, because 1659 01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,160 Speaker 2: you don't want to be out there handling the football 1660 01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:16,720 Speaker 2: when you're you can't feel your fingers, or running when 1661 01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:18,719 Speaker 2: you can't feel your toes. It gets a lot harder. 1662 01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:22,559 Speaker 2: But he had so many hilarious things to say about 1663 01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:27,080 Speaker 2: how many different items he has burned on those heaters, 1664 01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:31,559 Speaker 2: from his his own butt, he said, his helmet, his 1665 01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,639 Speaker 2: chin strap, his gloves, his cleats, like. 1666 01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:38,880 Speaker 1: Melting, your shoes melt the fire and you can't they're 1667 01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:42,360 Speaker 1: so cold. The shoes start to melt before your feet 1668 01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:42,960 Speaker 1: feel it, can. 1669 01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,760 Speaker 2: Smell it, starts to smell it before you feel it. 1670 01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:48,759 Speaker 1: Got you know, their helmets. They melt the chin straps 1671 01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:53,360 Speaker 1: on them. It's hard because when you do go numb, 1672 01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,559 Speaker 1: you can't you can't get warm again. Yeah, it takes 1673 01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:58,400 Speaker 1: a long time, and you can't do it fast. It 1674 01:22:58,439 --> 01:22:59,080 Speaker 1: takes a while. 1675 01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,240 Speaker 2: It's well, it's gonna be cold for the Patriots game 1676 01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:05,760 Speaker 2: this week, and not as cold as as the high. 1677 01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:07,840 Speaker 2: At least some snow in the forecast too. 1678 01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:10,439 Speaker 3: I think snow showers early in the day. We'll see. 1679 01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:10,920 Speaker 3: All right. 1680 01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:13,240 Speaker 2: Well, if you're still looking for a gift for the 1681 01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,200 Speaker 2: fan in your life, check out TSC Buffalo dot com 1682 01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:19,360 Speaker 2: for all of your sports memorabilia needs, or stop by 1683 01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:23,120 Speaker 2: the store located on thirty one seventy Orchard Park Road 1684 01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:27,559 Speaker 2: shop authentic sign jerseys, football's helmets, and more fifty percent 1685 01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:31,280 Speaker 2: off for a limited time only. That's a pretty good 1686 01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,639 Speaker 2: deal right there. All right, Before we go to break, 1687 01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:38,040 Speaker 2: we're gonna quickly dip into the tweet sheet brought to 1688 01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,880 Speaker 2: you by Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company 1689 01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,840 Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills, And the question is what are 1690 01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:47,320 Speaker 2: your keys to a Bill's victory over the Patriots on Sunday? 1691 01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:52,720 Speaker 2: Ted says no turnovers, third down efficiency, Shaq Thompson at 1692 01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:56,040 Speaker 2: middle linebacker and let Josh cook. 1693 01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:01,240 Speaker 3: Instead of saying let you cook, let's just say Josh 1694 01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:02,760 Speaker 3: cook it James And. 1695 01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:04,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it caught me for a second, Like, 1696 01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,679 Speaker 2: is that Josh or James? The two of them together, 1697 01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:13,280 Speaker 2: let them both cook. Trell Bernard was limited for practice yesterday. 1698 01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:17,759 Speaker 2: We haven't gotten a practice injury report update from today's 1699 01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,840 Speaker 2: practice yet, and it about thirty minutes ago. 1700 01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:26,559 Speaker 1: Joshu Sean McDermott has said that Bernard is progressing, but 1701 01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:30,800 Speaker 1: it's gonna be it's gonna be a an odyssey this 1702 01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,840 Speaker 1: week to see how he traverses the ye the path, 1703 01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:36,719 Speaker 1: you know, through practice and rehab and getting ready. 1704 01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:38,240 Speaker 3: And we'll have to wait and see. 1705 01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:42,240 Speaker 2: I'm dealing with that elbow injury. E GB says third 1706 01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:47,280 Speaker 2: down defense, penalties control the time of possession. Yeah, penalties. 1707 01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,680 Speaker 2: Last time the two faced each other Week five, the 1708 01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:53,080 Speaker 2: Bills had ten penalties in that game. 1709 01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:53,519 Speaker 1: Uh. 1710 01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,720 Speaker 2: You have to play clean football in a game like this, 1711 01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,720 Speaker 2: because you don't want the Patriots taking advantage of the 1712 01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:03,600 Speaker 2: ex yard gained, extra yards gained in terms of penalties, 1713 01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:07,639 Speaker 2: actually eleven eleven penalties for ninety yards. The Patriots had 1714 01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:08,880 Speaker 2: eight for ninety three. 1715 01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:13,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, eighteen penalties. That's a lot. 1716 01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:17,040 Speaker 2: It's a lot, Okay. MBCB says, don't turn the ball over. 1717 01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:19,160 Speaker 2: The Bills turn the ball over three times when they 1718 01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,599 Speaker 2: lost to the Patriots in October and still only lost 1719 01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:23,280 Speaker 2: by a field goal. If the Bills protect the ball 1720 01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:28,120 Speaker 2: this time, they should win. I agree with that wholeheartedly. 1721 01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,960 Speaker 2: I believe this is a Bills team who is taking 1722 01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,439 Speaker 2: steps in the right direction as it relates to taking 1723 01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:36,720 Speaker 2: care of the football and forcing takeaways. Those two have 1724 01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:39,280 Speaker 2: come together in the last couple weeks. I want to 1725 01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:39,920 Speaker 2: see a lot more of it. 1726 01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:41,639 Speaker 1: If you come out of this on the positive side 1727 01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:47,000 Speaker 1: of the turnover margin, that's huge. That's a huge boost 1728 01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:50,920 Speaker 1: to your chances in a game like this. Yeah, the 1729 01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,720 Speaker 1: Bills have now. Certainly, both teams are gonna have to 1730 01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,440 Speaker 1: put the ball at risk to move it against these defenses. 1731 01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:58,800 Speaker 1: But if you don't turn if the team that turns 1732 01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:03,080 Speaker 1: it over less is going to have a huge advantage. 1733 01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,599 Speaker 3: I think. I think that's a really important aspect. 1734 01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,400 Speaker 2: I really do time of possession as well, that's very important. 1735 01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:10,160 Speaker 2: We're going to take a break, but when we return, 1736 01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,400 Speaker 2: closing up shop here on one Bill's Live are presented 1737 01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:32,400 Speaker 2: by Cloud Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. We're back on 1738 01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:33,920 Speaker 2: one Bill's Live and we want to tell you the 1739 01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:37,559 Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills have nominated Ellie Edwards from Pioneer for the 1740 01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,840 Speaker 2: Maxwell Football Club Girls National Flag Football Player of the 1741 01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:44,000 Speaker 2: Year Award. All thirty two clubs selected a female high 1742 01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:47,000 Speaker 2: school flag football player to represent their team for consideration 1743 01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:51,080 Speaker 2: for this year's award, which recognizes outstanding on field performance, 1744 01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:55,040 Speaker 2: academic achievement, and community service. For Finalists from both the 1745 01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:58,080 Speaker 2: NFC and AFC will be chosen later this month, with 1746 01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:02,240 Speaker 2: the winner being awarded in January. Congrats to Ellie. All Right, 1747 01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:03,760 Speaker 2: we have a couple of minutes left in the show, 1748 01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:05,280 Speaker 2: so we're going to go to the phone lines quick 1749 01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:08,000 Speaker 2: to Matt from Arkansas. Matt, how you doing. 1750 01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:13,439 Speaker 10: Hey, I made it first, you made it. I don't 1751 01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:16,320 Speaker 10: know if you guys have received a call from Arkansas yet, 1752 01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:18,360 Speaker 10: so I'm hoping I'm the forty second state here. 1753 01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:19,120 Speaker 2: I love it. 1754 01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:20,280 Speaker 3: We'll find out. 1755 01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:26,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris Brown, Chris Brown keeps the list. Yeah for sure. 1756 01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:32,000 Speaker 10: You're commercial with Josh Allen Man. That was so funny. Man, Well, 1757 01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,640 Speaker 10: he's living in a new stadium and at the end, 1758 01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,080 Speaker 10: you're walking out, He's like, hey, Steve, come on and 1759 01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,240 Speaker 10: you pop up. Man, that was good, Steve. I wanted 1760 01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:42,360 Speaker 10: to give you some credit on that. I wanted to 1761 01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:43,519 Speaker 10: talk about Matt Milano. 1762 01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:43,760 Speaker 6: Man. 1763 01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:46,200 Speaker 10: I think he's playing really well the last couple of games, 1764 01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:48,519 Speaker 10: and I think I know Brownie said he's kind of 1765 01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:51,080 Speaker 10: lost the step, but I don't think that. I think 1766 01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:53,160 Speaker 10: he's just been hurt the last couple of seasons, and 1767 01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:55,880 Speaker 10: now that he's getting a couple more game play in 1768 01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:59,960 Speaker 10: his instincts that just have been superb. And I've seen 1769 01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:03,080 Speaker 10: the last game on the Bengals, he's really covering the 1770 01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:06,519 Speaker 10: running backs really well and the tight end. So it's 1771 01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,840 Speaker 10: good to see that. I'm a big Matt Milano fan. 1772 01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,360 Speaker 10: So keep it up, Matt. I want to say this weekend, 1773 01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:14,639 Speaker 10: I think we're gonna beat him by ten. I think 1774 01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:17,080 Speaker 10: we should run the ball hard in the first half 1775 01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:19,400 Speaker 10: week in the defense, and then let Josh put his 1776 01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:21,920 Speaker 10: cape on in the second half and we just toss 1777 01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:25,320 Speaker 10: it all over the field. So you guys are amazing, 1778 01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:27,080 Speaker 10: Go Bills. Love the show. 1779 01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:30,720 Speaker 2: Thanks all right, thank you, Matt, appreciate it. Okay, Matt 1780 01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:34,080 Speaker 2: Milano looking at his stats from last week five tackles 1781 01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:36,720 Speaker 2: against the Bengals, which is a one shy of his 1782 01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:40,439 Speaker 2: season high six against the Bucks. But when Matt Mullano 1783 01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:43,720 Speaker 2: can trigger, that guy is so fast. It makes me 1784 01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:45,880 Speaker 2: think of the sack he hat on bow Nicks last 1785 01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,720 Speaker 2: year in the playoffs, and not sacker just running him 1786 01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:49,200 Speaker 2: out about it. 1787 01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,160 Speaker 1: Bis was trying to roll out. He tackle him for 1788 01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:55,200 Speaker 1: a loss on a passing play. You're right, Milano's ability 1789 01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,760 Speaker 1: isn't so much as a next to nose linebacker runs something. 1790 01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,679 Speaker 1: He's a playmaker. The guy sees it and he gets 1791 01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,679 Speaker 1: in the middle of it fast. And when he's playing 1792 01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:08,960 Speaker 1: his best, he's forcing turnovers. He's just in the middle 1793 01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:10,720 Speaker 1: of it. He's where you don't expect him to be. 1794 01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:14,559 Speaker 1: We have seen him play along with Shaq Thompson. Those 1795 01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:18,519 Speaker 1: two guys have been really effective. And Milano's presence and 1796 01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:20,679 Speaker 1: his ability to stay healthy, I mean, his huge boost 1797 01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:23,880 Speaker 1: to this defense, no question. Certainly, Milono's had his ups 1798 01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,160 Speaker 1: and downs with injuries, but you know now that he's 1799 01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:29,160 Speaker 1: playing and every playing every week, of course, he's shown 1800 01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:31,320 Speaker 1: up more and more and more. So it is good 1801 01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:35,400 Speaker 1: to see because I like guys who are instinctive and 1802 01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:37,200 Speaker 1: seem to be ahead of it mentally, and that's what 1803 01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:37,800 Speaker 1: Milano is. 1804 01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,200 Speaker 2: Yep. We'll see which linebackers are on the field for 1805 01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:43,600 Speaker 2: Sunday's matchup against the Patriots. Remember Trel Bernard dealing with 1806 01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:47,120 Speaker 2: that elbow injury has been limited this week in practice. 1807 01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:49,800 Speaker 2: Haven't got an injury report yet, but that should be 1808 01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,320 Speaker 2: on pr square accounts soon enough. Want to thank you 1809 01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:54,800 Speaker 2: for tuning into One Bill's Live. We'll see tomorrow from 1810 01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:57,160 Speaker 2: one to three