1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm Royal Oaks. Next time, on Too Many Lawyers, we 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: take on a couple of villains to sort out whether 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: bad stuff is also illegal stuff. George Santos want a 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: seat in Congress by lying to voters, but is that 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: a crime? And Kanye West made it clear he hates 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Jews in England, he go to jail for that. Here 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: in America, did he commit a hate crime? Listen to 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: Too Many Lawyers on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. 10 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: The John Annick and Kenny Florian podcast John Annick and 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: Kenny Florian. 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 3: I fucking love him. 13 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 4: I can't get. 14 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 2: Enough of him. 15 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 5: Let's hear that berg job there, Kotuffian freck bears. 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 3: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved 17 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: bullshit artists. 18 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: Here are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian. So 19 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: how about Ray long ago up until the wee hours 20 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: of the morning hosting extra rounds last night with our 21 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: guy TJ. 22 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 6: DeSantis? Is that right? 23 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 5: That's that's correct? Man, big show last night? 24 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 6: What times you go to bed? Why was it such 25 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 6: a big show? 26 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 5: Because I was on it? But then now I got 27 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 5: to bed, maybe two thirty. 28 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a late main card. So well, we 29 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: want to get into it with you a little bit. 30 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: And I know, obviously you have a birthday coming up, 31 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: and we have he's professional debut. By the way, our 32 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: producer Cody Merrow twenty nine years old today. 33 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 5: Wow, happy birthday, buddy. 34 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 7: Maybe he's a twenty nine though. Man, I don't even 35 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 7: remember twenty nine. 36 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: Well, I consider Cody one of my best friends, and 37 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 2: I forgot that he was his birthday. So I apologize 38 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: for that, buddy, But happy twenty ninth birthday. I mean 39 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: when I think about when I was twenty nine, I 40 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: don't even want to share with this audience, Like, yeah, 41 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: just trying to like Ryan Span just like not like 42 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: get in my own goddamn way every day of my life. 43 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 6: You look pretty good though, Ray today. 44 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 45 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, plus they had fights list. You know, it takes 46 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 7: me back to a store. I remember a time a 47 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 7: buddy of mine got a twenty nine blowjob. 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She's obviously been 101 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: in your gym, and you know it sounds trite, but 102 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 2: she leaves no stone unturned, like you don't have to 103 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: worry about the preparation. I would agree with ken Flow 104 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: that it's gotten methodically better in terms of her mental game, 105 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 2: her strength and conditioning, and they keep giving her these 106 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 2: top fighters and nobody can pluck her off except Valentino. 107 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: What you make of chew ke Gian's fourth straight win. 108 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely beautiful. 109 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 7: All right, listen, tough fight, right, but uh maybe not yeah, 110 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 7: no tough fighters, you know, maybe the takedowns in there. 111 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 7: But you know, she was at the gym every week. 112 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 7: She would spawl with Jenny Nadell and one of my 113 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 7: other fighters, Miya, who's like ten and one, and they 114 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 7: would give her great work. Man, So she looks she 115 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 7: looks great. She's you know, I was saying this the 116 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 7: other day too. I think at the beginning, there was 117 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 7: like some complaints she's not you know, she's moving too much, 118 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 7: or she's you know, she's not exciting. 119 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 5: But she's exciting now and she's. 120 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 7: Learning how to sit down on those paunches, and she's 121 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 7: she's going forward a lot of times. 122 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 5: And I even like, you. 123 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 7: Know, at the end when she got tooken down, man, 124 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 7: she was franded to get back up. 125 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 5: She wasn't gonna acquiesce and just go down. 126 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 7: That to me was the most pivotal point that I 127 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 7: saw last night was really the last thirty second. She 128 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 7: wanted to win every second of that round. She wasn't 129 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 7: going to leave it to the judges. And I thought 130 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 7: it was just a great, great performance. She listen, she 131 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 7: gets it, you know what I mean, Like when I 132 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 7: talked to she, she understands MMA and she's she's she's 133 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 7: talented everywhere. So uh, good luck trying to get her 134 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 7: out because she's just getting better and better now. You know, 135 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 7: it's like she might have been looked as a gatekeeper, 136 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 7: but it's not going to go down like that, you know, unfortunately. 137 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 7: You know that Valentina is another level, you know, at 138 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 7: the end of the rainbow. But yeah, everybody else and 139 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 7: that look, nobody's getting to Valentina. But I think she 140 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 7: deserves another shot at that because she's a different fighter 141 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 7: mentally than where. 142 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 5: She was the first. 143 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 2: Can you imagine what Caitlin Chukegian's bank account could look 144 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,679 Speaker 2: like if Valentina Chevchenko ceased to exist. 145 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 6: I mean, it's nuts to think about the possibilities. 146 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 2: And I have to say to you guys, and I 147 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 2: want to know if you guys agree with this or not. Uh, 148 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 2: And maybe I'm just reaching here, but I kept finding 149 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: myself watching this fight thinking about Carla Esparza and Rose 150 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: Nama Yunis and thinking Chukegan in her head is like, 151 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: there's no fucking way I'm producing a stinker tonight. 152 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 6: You know. I know at times. 153 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: Maybe people have cast some criticism at Cheokeg and Ray 154 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 2: for her fighting style not being all that pleasing. Obviously 155 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: she wins a lot of decisions, you know, But I 156 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: don't know. I just felt like, after what we saw 157 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: a week ago, you know, these women made a concerted effort, 158 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: especially Keg, into just entertain and go balls to the wall. 159 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 6: Am I reaching? 160 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 5: No? 161 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 7: I thought that that was an excited, really good, exciting fight, right, Tenny, 162 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 7: and it was nothing to dislike about that fight. 163 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 5: I don't think, and I even Rebus. 164 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 7: Rebus did a great job trying to get in Blend 165 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 7: in the takedown. She that was a really well fought 166 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 7: MMA fight. 167 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 6: I agree. 168 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 8: I thought it was a fun fight. And while Chukegan 169 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 8: maybe doesn't have the same kind of finishing techniques so 170 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 8: that let's say Anama Unus might have, I do think 171 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 8: that uh, you know, she goes for it. She was 172 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 8: fighting hard, you know. I think that fight was exciting throughout. Uh, 173 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 8: they were throwing down and there was a point where 174 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 8: I've to ten seconds where they didn't even move. There 175 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 8: was yeah, slugging at the end. 176 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, do you like rice crispies the cereal snap 177 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: crackle pop? Because we need you to unplug your headphones 178 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: and plug them back in because every time you talk, 179 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: actually unplug them from the computer. It's fucking snap crackle pop, 180 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: rice crispies. So I can hear you, but I still 181 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: it's it's all that you know, crackling Oprien. Still Yeah, 182 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: I want me to read. Yeah, Cody, happy birthday. This 183 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 2: is a great birthday present for Cody. More technical issues 184 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 2: that we've had on the air in like three hundred episodes. 185 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 3: This episode is brought to you by AOL discs. I'm 186 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 3: gonna and have them come back in all right, And man, 187 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 3: what ant of fights? Huh? What an of fights? 188 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 5: You see? 189 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: Vegas fifty four. 190 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 6: Telling you UFC Fight night Behovich versus Rockets. 191 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 3: Do you guys remember I'm sorry to interrupt you, John, 192 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 3: Do you guys remember back when this all first started 193 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 3: and it was like UFC Vegas one, UFC Vegas two, Like, 194 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 3: did you ever think we get to fifty four UFC 195 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 3: Vegas shows? 196 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 6: It is crazy. 197 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 2: And what I'm wondering, because I don't have any locations 198 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: past July thirtieth right now, is how much they're going 199 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 2: to be at the UFC Apex for these type of 200 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: UFC fight nights over the next say, eighteen months or so. 201 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 6: Because I don't see the books can flow. 202 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 2: But you got to think that it's pretty cost efficient 203 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 2: to put on a show at the UFC Apex compared 204 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: to you know, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 205 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 6: Ray, how do you sound now, bront Oh yeah, yeah, no, 206 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 6: you sound great now? 207 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 7: That up on his birth See John, even if you're sick, 208 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 7: I can get you a lift, that's all I want 209 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 7: to do. 210 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 2: I make you feel so much better having sat here 211 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: with you guys. You know I was really grappling with 212 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: what to do today. I mean, now I know I 213 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: got big gun Brian Petrie who can always host the 214 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: show in a but. 215 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 5: That just don't just proves you have a passion for this. Yeah. 216 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 6: No, I'm excited. I'm excited to be here, and you 217 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 6: always get me going. 218 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 3: You know. 219 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: My twin brother on the golf course on Friday was like, man, 220 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: if you treated me with like ten percent of the 221 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: respect that you give Ray Longer, I want to get. 222 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 6: Your thoughts on the main event if I could gomb 223 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 6: go ahead, yeah. 224 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 7: Real quick with Caitlyn too, I think you know it 225 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 7: kind of not that it reminds me exactly, but like 226 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 7: when Matt beat Litel for that, you know, when on 227 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 7: the show for the to fight for the title, very 228 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 7: close fight could have went either way, right, but you 229 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 7: know was. 230 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 5: Nobody wanted to take any risks. But look what happened 231 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 5: to Litel after that fight. 232 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 7: Man, he just started getting bonus after bonus after both 233 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 7: you know, you free your mind, you go for it. 234 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 5: Hey, I got nothing to lose right that That was 235 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 5: the sometimes you see that. 236 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 7: I think that's what I'm seeing that Caitlin, with her style, 237 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 7: she's I think she's going for more than she ever 238 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 7: has gone for it. And Kenny, I do think if 239 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 7: she keeps on the way what I'm seeing, she will 240 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 7: develop finish in power. I know, because she's got it. 241 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 7: I see it, you know, so you know the more 242 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 7: she fights, and she's always I think she's been busy 243 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 7: in the list couple of years. 244 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 5: Is she's just going to get better and better. You know. 245 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 7: It's it's it's just it's fun to watch. But I 246 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 7: think she deserves another titles. I don't know how they're 247 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 7: not going to give it to us. Everybody they put 248 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 7: in front of her, well. 249 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: We'll see how competitive Tyler Santos is against Valentina Chefchanko. 250 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: A lot of people are more excited about her Santos 251 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,599 Speaker 2: as challenger than they have been about most of the 252 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: recent title challengers for Valentina, I guess Jessica and Drag Notwithstanding, 253 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: it is interesting and I'm kind of digressing here, but 254 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: like a split decision loss and how it can turn 255 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: a career. I was just with Glover to share last 256 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 2: week in Connecticut as I told people off the top, 257 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 2: and you know, he fought Nikita Krilov to a split 258 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: decision in twenty nineteen. 259 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 6: He loses that fight, there's no way he becomes world champion. 260 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 6: And it's just amazing. How careers? 261 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 2: What'd you make of Yan Beohovich and Alexander Rockets for 262 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: as long as the main event lasted. Ultimately it's Johovich 263 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: by TKO due to injury there in round number three. 264 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 5: Uh, you know, I thought Jan had a great first round. 265 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 7: Uh, you know, he got held down on the second round, 266 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 7: not much damage and then uh, you know, unfortunately, you know, 267 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 7: the guy's knee gave out. But I do believe that 268 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 7: was from Jan was checking a lot of those low kicks, 269 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 7: and those are big guys climbing skins, and I think 270 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 7: that that was a result of that. 271 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 5: Unless he came into that fight with that injury, that's 272 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 5: the only thing I could think. 273 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: He did say there was something three weeks ago, but 274 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: obviously that pounded things. 275 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 7: You know, well, I mean, if that was the case, 276 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 7: he shouldn't have been whipping those low kicks after he 277 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 7: got checked the first time, because he got he got 278 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 7: He got at least four or five kicks check, right, 279 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 7: Am I wrong on? 280 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 3: You know? 281 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 7: So, uh, that's not a picnic for anybody, the guy 282 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 7: checking or the guy getting kicked. So yeah, those are 283 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 7: two big guys, big bone guys. So you know, nobody 284 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 7: likes to see that shit go down. But I think 285 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 7: Jan was looking good and uh and I'm really happy 286 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 7: he he mentioned that he brought in a girl that 287 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 7: I know really well, Daria, and she's she's a tremendous 288 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 7: she was a great fighter and she's a tremendous sports 289 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 7: psychiat psychologist. Now he shouted her out, and I was 290 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 7: so excited for her because she's been in the gym 291 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 7: many many times, and there was times she was going 292 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 7: over stuff with me and Widman that I thought was fantastic. 293 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 7: You know, she's on the cutting edge of some really 294 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 7: cool stuff. So to see that he even shouted her 295 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 7: out and said, look, I got injured, but you know, 296 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 7: you know, Daria kept me in this fight, so big 297 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 7: shout out to her. 298 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 5: I'm super super happy. She's such a sweetheart. 299 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 7: She's got such a way of speaking that and I 300 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 7: don't care what the situation is, she's she'll calm you 301 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 7: down in a heartbeat, you know, she's just very, very 302 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 7: mellow and intelligent. 303 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 5: So big shout out to Daria. 304 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 2: That's interesting. I had no idea about that connection. How 305 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: many of your elite fighters have employed. 306 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 6: A sports psychologist ray over the years. 307 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 5: Uh they're not many, Yeah, not many. 308 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 7: You know, she was in the gym, so she went 309 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 7: over stuff with us, uh, you know, not that she 310 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 7: was working with Chris, but she, you know, spent ta 311 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 7: good day with us with a lot of different drills 312 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 7: that I thought really made a lot of sense. And uh, 313 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 7: it was good, good stuff. She's definitely got a program 314 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 7: on a program out to it that I can't even think, 315 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 7: but it's she's gonna kill me, man, I don't know. 316 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 7: But you go go to her website and you'll you'll 317 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 7: find it. You know, it's really really good. 318 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 6: We'll have to reach far and wide. That's a pretty 319 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 6: good plug out of you. 320 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 7: But she's on the money, no, I mean, she's definitely 321 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 7: have a lot to teach classes where I Quin is 322 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 7: in there, al Jo has been in there. 323 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 5: You know, just you can't dislike it. She's just got 324 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 5: a great personality for that. 325 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 6: So I wonder if she was in Poland with Yon, Well. 326 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 5: She's Polish so I'm gonna say she was there. 327 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 3: You go. 328 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: Do you see all those Polish people at the UFC 329 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: Apex last night, Michael, Wow? 330 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 5: Man, they tacked a lot of people in that apex. 331 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 5: They did all right. 332 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: So coming up on May twentieth, I believe it is 333 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 2: the professional debut for Steve Lee. 334 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 6: You got some other guys fighting, is that correct? 335 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 3: Oh? 336 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, what do you want to do extra rounds again? 337 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 6: Do you have more? 338 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 3: No? 339 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 5: No, well you know what it is. Last night we 340 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 5: had fights too, So I mean. 341 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 6: All right, so let's talk about your fights last night. 342 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 7: The home to doing the show. But last night we 343 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 7: had Matt Sarah's wife fighting for the second time. Man Sarah, 344 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 7: I got to give her a big shout out. Man, 345 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 7: what a what a warrior. It's like a first two 346 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 7: rounds were a total slug fest, and man, she hung 347 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 7: in there. She got an unanimous decision thirty and so 348 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 7: the Terror was happy. Missus Terror was happy. Terrors were happy. 349 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 5: To watch terrible night. But it was actually a great night. 350 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 6: But were all the girls there to watch their mom? 351 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, of course they were. He he's got a great family. 352 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 7: So it was a big night out and shout out 353 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 7: to terror, Phoebe issue trains at Matt's Jim, so it was, 354 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 7: it was, It was. 355 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 5: A good night. 356 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 7: And we also had Jacob Martin make his amateur debut. 357 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 7: He crushed it with a third round knockout. I used 358 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 7: to wrestle at Hofstraight, another great kid, and that was it. 359 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 7: We had. 360 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 5: They think, uh, I think we went three and one. 361 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 7: I think Zach Lowe knocked his guy out in the 362 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 7: first round and Dell I think lost. 363 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 5: But I got to check in on that. 364 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: So you coach at that show and then you race 365 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: home to watch UFC Fight Night for your television obligations 366 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: on extra rounds? 367 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 6: Is that right? 368 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 5: Well, that night, I just I was actually a spectator 369 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 5: because uh, you know, other people were. 370 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 7: Other people worked the corners, and that's why I know 371 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 7: I had to do extra well, not that that had 372 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 7: anything to do with it, but I know I had 373 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 7: to get out of there a little earlier. 374 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 5: Because I had a race home to do the show. 375 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 7: So right right, I enjoyed you know, you know, it 376 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 7: was my show. So I got the back and relax 377 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 7: and watch it. Watch everybody do that thing. I like 378 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 7: it for Vola work. Jacob's going so the fighters jump 379 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 7: in there they work. It's it's great. It's a good, good, 380 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 7: good situation going on. 381 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 2: And given the relative thickness of those extra rounds checks, right, 382 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 2: you gotta gotta get home to pay the bills, you know. 383 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 5: Don't be laughing too much about that, Johnny. 384 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,239 Speaker 6: No, I'm I'm not letting laughing. I'm not laughing at all. 385 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 5: Coming in, big baby, I. 386 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 2: Know, I mean right, that's why, that's why even your 387 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: show ring a combat, you gotta fucking duck out early 388 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 2: chase that extra rounds point. I get it, I get it, 389 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: all right. So Steve Lee has been a long time 390 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 2: staple of your gym. He has been a huge supporter 391 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: of the Anaicmploran podcast. And he's probably gonna be humbled 392 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 2: or bashful that I'm putting him over like this, but 393 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: you know, I've sort of followed his amateur career obviously, 394 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 2: and and now here he is making his pro debut. 395 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on on our guy Steve Lee 396 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 2: stepping in there officially for the first time here in 397 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 2: a few days. 398 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 7: Yeah, you're right, man, Listen, at this point without Steve Lee, 399 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 7: there's probably no gym, you know, I mean, he he 400 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 7: really helps out a lot with a million things, but uh, 401 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 7: very well rounded kid. 402 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 5: Man. He looks great everywhere. So uh, I'm very. 403 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 7: Excited for this fight. But he's definitely I was with 404 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 7: him yesterday. He looked great. And if I'm excited, I'm 405 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 7: excited for his pro debut. You know. If the nerves 406 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 7: don't get him, he's gonna have a great, great performance, 407 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 7: you know. But it's it's exciting. And again, I think 408 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 7: he's very well rounded. I see him becoming a great, 409 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 7: you know, teacher in the future too. I think he 410 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 7: understands the game. He's good at breaking ship down. So uh, 411 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 7: this should be this is this is a big weekend. 412 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 5: And we also have. 413 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 7: Anthony Delemmi, who I'm very excited about, another kid who's 414 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 7: been in the gym for a while. And uh man, 415 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 7: this guy he's like the raging bull. This guy, Uh, 416 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 7: he's a throwback. So I think he's gonna have a 417 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 7: great night. Or Mondo Gatcha is fighting also, who's looking good. 418 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 7: And kel sterling debut. 419 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 2: That's right, So that's the I forget Stirling Alche's brother, 420 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 2: his brother and when is your birthday? 421 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 6: May twenty? What may your May twentieth? 422 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: So that night all right, So we got you on 423 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 2: May twentieth, we got Cody May fifteenth, we got Bruce 424 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 2: Buffer May twenty first, we got the great Ken Flow 425 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 2: on May twenty sixth Archer May seventeenth. 426 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 6: Yeah. Too many fucking birthdays. 427 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 5: Ship, Happy birthday, Ken, Thank you you too. 428 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 7: Man. 429 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: All right, brother, we appreciate your time as always, and 430 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: I'm actually when we get off the Hair, I think 431 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go listen to extra rounds because I don't 432 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: want to miss it. 433 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: You know. 434 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 5: Well, you know what, John, I think it'll really uplift 435 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:42,239 Speaker 5: you a little bit. 436 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think So what do they call it the 437 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 7: hair and the dog that bit you or something like that? Well, yeah, 438 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 7: well I have a couple of drinks, listen to the show, 439 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 7: a couple of mode. 440 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 5: I didn't mention last week. I uh what to see 441 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 5: Brian Talon in New Jersey do his stand up back? Man? 442 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 5: That guy is what an awesome guy? And man did 443 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 5: Kenny non. 444 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 7: Stop laughing straight through counsel really just a you know, 445 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 7: you know, he's he's his his stand up is really 446 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 7: really good. 447 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 5: Man. 448 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 7: His mannerisms, uh, you know, obviously he relates to the 449 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 7: MMA community a lot. 450 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 5: But if anybody has a chance to really go see him. 451 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 7: And you know, I gotta say it was a little 452 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 7: weird because I, deep down I was actually hoping somebody 453 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 7: would attack him so that we could actually somebody. 454 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 5: With would immunity. Tenny. 455 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 7: I was like, you know what, the crowd, Yeah, I 456 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 7: tell you guys that, let's we could get away with 457 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 7: some ship here. 458 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 6: Man, you always got to be ready to go. 459 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: I found that as I get older, even living in 460 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 2: South Florida, I'm trying to remember to wear sneakers and 461 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: socks instead of flip flops when I get out of here. 462 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 2: You know, you don't want to be like your car 463 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 2: close there and slides Jeremy Stevens fucking pushes you and 464 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: you get a concussion because you're wearing slides. You know, 465 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 2: not in a great position to fight on Q when 466 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 2: you're wearing flip flops or chase after a child who's 467 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: been taken from you. 468 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 5: You know. 469 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 6: So I'm trying to remember, you know. 470 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 7: I mean, I know how you have to be ready 471 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 7: to go in any environment, right, I mean it's not 472 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 7: like you should be training with your. 473 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 5: Flip flops on, so that doesn't happen. 474 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 7: Forget about remembering to take them off, trained with them 475 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 7: on all right, Kenny, you gotta help this guy with 476 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 7: the Marshall ar I got it, Kenny, train on hills everywhere. 477 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 7: You had to have different surfaces, training a phone book. 478 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 5: Like a ninja, like a ninja. Absolutely, John, Look he's smilingly, Kenny. 479 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 5: This guy's not sick. You look great. Hey. 480 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 6: Thanks. 481 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: This is the closest I have ever come to canceling 482 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: an episode on show day, you know. 483 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 5: But we're. 484 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: All right if you want more from Ray Longo at 485 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,239 Speaker 2: Ray Longo, m m A. Appreciate you, brother. We are 486 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: dark next week, returning Memorial Day weekend, so enjoy the 487 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 2: week off next weekend and we'll talk to you in 488 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: about thirteen days. 489 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 5: Ma, Man, what am I supposed to do? 490 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: Actually, you know what, Indeeply wins his fight, we might 491 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: have to do an impromptu episode, so do you know what. 492 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 5: I'm gonna hold you to that all right, But in 493 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 5: the meantime, get yourself better, buddy. 494 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 6: Thank you, brother, I appreciate it. 495 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 2: After Birthday, Man is very long a minute every week 496 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 2: here on the Anicmploring podcast. Also celebrating a birthday today, 497 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 2: the head of the New England Cartel Tyson Chartier, so 498 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 2: we wish him a happy birthday. Happy birthday, Cody stole lot, 499 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 2: as they say in Poland. Sorry for the oversight. 500 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 3: No, no, it's going great over here. It's actually funny. 501 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 3: You're talking about Dolwis being ready. I actually on Kenny's advice, 502 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 3: I wear my gee when I go to the grocery store, 503 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 3: just in case anyone's trying to try me, you know, 504 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 3: trying to cut me in line. I don't care if 505 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 3: you're eighty years old to put you in am you 506 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 3: trained in the Cody uh once twice? I mean, I'm 507 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: an ogee kind of guy. You know, you did be 508 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 3: ready for a real situation, right, you know, although Kenny 509 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 3: would probably argue that the gee is a more realistic 510 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 3: seasonality should come into play or like come October, you know, 511 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 3: because there's jackets on and stuff. You're like, you gotta 512 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 3: start being. 513 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 6: Prepared for those X choke the leather jacket. 514 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 3: Yeah right, John's like, I have the mats are in 515 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 3: my garage. I have no idea what you're talking about. 516 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 6: I got a Flori in Martial Arts Center. Rash guard though. 517 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 7: There you go. 518 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 3: Shout it is shot at free plug Newport Mixed martial 519 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 3: Arts for the town of five thousand people. Newport of 520 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: Hampshire just opened up this week bjj's school right in 521 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 3: the middle of Newport. 522 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 6: Pronunciation of the week time, folks. 523 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 2: This man has realized success in the light heavyweight division, 524 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: but he's moving up to heavyweight to face New England's 525 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 2: Poka Porter this Saturday at UFC Fight Night. Cody Merrow 526 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: the birthday Boy. This is a Brazilian name. Let's test 527 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: your Brazilian Portuguese on a Sunday morning. Of whom am 528 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 2: I speaking? 529 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 3: So I didn't seek any help for this one. I'm 530 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 3: completely on my own. Uh ahmid It's. 531 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 6: Not no, that's not gonna, that's not gonna. That's not 532 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 6: gonna be it. But we'll hear him say. 533 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 4: Zau jau mina juma jai you. 534 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 5: Ma yeah, gi you ao me. 535 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 3: Bah yeahs huh. 536 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 2: So I was voicing this show a couple of days 537 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 2: ago and I came up on this name, Jai Yelton 538 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: Almeida and the nickname is Mala Gino. 539 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 5: You know. 540 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 2: That's a challenging name. You know it's a challenging name, 541 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: but it's Jai Yelton. We're going three syllables on the 542 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: on the first name. So, uh, that's gonna be a 543 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: no for me. 544 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: Cody, I don't know, Okay, Well, I mean, John, I 545 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 3: just wish you had been in the room for Vienna 546 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 3: Janci Doba. I mean that was all over the place 547 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 3: last week. I can't it. It's the pronunciation of the 548 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 3: week and I can't not bring it up like that 549 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 3: was all over the place. 550 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean sometimes when I hear the file 551 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 2: it sounds like Vina, you know, but we go Vina 552 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 2: Jenji Doba. 553 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 3: It's never Verna, right, it's not. 554 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 6: It's my man can't help himself, you know. She's Verna 555 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 6: to him. And that's okay. More from Cody Merrow coming 556 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 6: up at the end of the show in the Marrow seconds. 557 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 2: But uh, we got another relatively big UFC fight night 558 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: coming up this weekend at that old UFC Apexit is 559 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 2: UFC Fight Night Home versus Vieta. 560 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 6: To that end, let's get to the main event challenge. 561 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 3: It's the main event challenge. 562 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 6: Time is most. 563 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 3: How do you everything possible to win? 564 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: It's the main event challenge to John Hannick and Kenny Florian. 565 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 3: Podcast, Let's go. 566 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 6: Yell you boys look fantastic. 567 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 4: John. This is your flu game, Jordan Flu game. 568 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 6: Humbud, this is my Jordanlu game. 569 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 2: Honestly, it's amazing how much the energy from all you 570 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: people has lifted me up today. I know we've had 571 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 2: some technical issues that have sort of compounded things, but 572 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: I'm curious. Like I told my wife as soon as 573 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 2: I got off the air, I'm getting in bed for 574 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 2: the rest of the day, Like Game seven Celtics probably 575 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 2: not happening. 576 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 6: I feel pretty good right now though, as we come 577 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 6: up on noon PM Eastern time. 578 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 2: Value Boys. So you sent me this shirt? Yes, and 579 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. So is that a term that sort 580 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 2: of originated on your MMA takes podcasts? 581 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 5: Is that? 582 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 4: I mean kind of it flowed around, like there's a 583 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 4: lot of different people, Like people say value boys, some 584 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 4: people say, like, you know, chalk donkeys or whatever thenkeys. Yeah, 585 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 4: there's a lot of different variations on I don't want 586 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 4: to take full credit for it. I do think I'm 587 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 4: the first person to put on a shirt though, so 588 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 4: I'll take credit for that. But no, it was like 589 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 4: an MMA Twitter thing like some people would like start 590 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 4: arguing about, like you know, oh, that's a good number. 591 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 4: Oh you're a value boy, you know, play the winners 592 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 4: off the number, isn't it kind of originating from there? 593 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean listen, sometimes you got to be 594 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 4: a valuable you know. It's a termined in my opinion. 595 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I think so too. 596 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 2: And anyone who's listened to this podcast has heard me say, 597 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 2: you know you're betting the number off the fighters, So right, 598 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 2: I'm always looking for value and I see some on 599 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 2: the Milwaukee Bucks catching five in game seven today. 600 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 6: All right, we had three picks today. 601 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 2: I quickly wanted to get your thoughts on Rockets and 602 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 2: Bohovich before we get into all of that. I can't 603 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 2: recall which side were you on right which. 604 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 6: I was on the rocket side? Trough it. 605 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, so listen. It was a great fight. I mean, 606 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 4: Yan Kenny nailed it. When he broke it down, he said, 607 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 4: who what yean were to get? Because the glower fight 608 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 4: was weird. Man, We've all agreed on that. He got 609 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 4: cut pretty a nice little cut inside. 610 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 6: The eye there. 611 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 4: That worried me a little bit, but he was meaning there, right. 612 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 4: He I think he won the first round. The second 613 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 4: round he got positioned a little bit, which I thought rockets. 614 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 4: His game plan was he you know, roked up his 615 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 4: legs or whatever. But the third round looking pretty good. 616 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 4: Yan was was sticking to his guns with those leg kicks. 617 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 4: And it's unfortunate the way it happened, but I think 618 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 4: yan Was was the momentum, was shifting his direction anyway. 619 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 4: So uh yeah, impressive stuff. 620 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 2: Man Ken Flow was on the underdog Yambohovi's by the way, Yeah, 621 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 2: it was like rub it in people's faces. 622 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 6: You know, I need him too, I need him to 623 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 6: I need it. I need the shame. 624 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 2: Why the winner ever, you know, unbelievable, you know, or 625 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 2: maybe he's just upset the bitcoins below thirty g's. 626 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 6: I don't know exactly that I need to win. I 627 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,719 Speaker 6: bought it. I know exactly. I bought the hell out 628 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 6: of that dip. 629 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 2: I bought a twenty eight oh, twenty eight five, twenty nine, 630 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 2: twenty nine to five. Oh, I'm going, I'm there. I'm 631 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 2: never selling my big coin, all right. We got three 632 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: picks today, ladies and gentlemen. First fight for US A 633 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 2: featured bout on the main cart at middleweight, Cheaty and 634 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: Jakwani minus one eighty douche go to Doorvich is plus 635 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: one fifty five. Little background for you guys. So it 636 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 2: took Cheaty and Jakwani twenty eight pro fights to get 637 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 2: to the UFC. Tremendous strength of schedule outside the UFC 638 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: beat Alan Joe Back in twenty eleven, Max Griffin in 639 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, and then when he made his UFC debut, 640 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: it took him just sixteen seconds to get the win 641 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: and the resulting bonus as he knocked out Mark Andre Barrio. 642 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: Now he spins it forward against the Serbian Tadorovich, who 643 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 2: potentially bride was fighting for his job last time out 644 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: and made a count delivered with a big knockout of 645 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 2: coconut bombs. Machi Pittolo, Todorovich the dog and Jikwani the 646 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: favorite BP. 647 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 4: Who do you have in Chigwuani's a royalty name in 648 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 4: this household? I mean his brother Anthony and WC days. 649 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 4: I remember watching my teammate Roger Bowling on UFC Fox 650 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 4: seven fight in Tikwani and Kwane Kotum devastating, I mean 651 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 4: devastating for me. But that name is just synonymous with 652 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 4: really good strikers, powerful dudes. In Tchikwane showed up and 653 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 4: knocked out a tough, steel headed Mark and Barrio who 654 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 4: doesn't get put out that way really quick. And John, 655 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 4: you touched on this something, I was gonna touch my 656 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 4: break downe. He has five wins over former current UFC 657 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 4: fighters on his name. He had a couple stutters and 658 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 4: outside of another organization, but he's thirty three now right. 659 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 4: I feel like this is gonna be the best we're 660 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 4: gonna see him. This is like great in his prime. 661 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 4: He's big for the division as well. He's got that 662 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 4: timber in his voice that you could just literally just 663 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 4: listen to him talk all fucking day long. 664 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 5: Uh. 665 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 4: Dusco's claim to fame in my world is when he 666 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 4: knocked out Michelle Pereira. I mean that was at one 667 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 4: eighty five. That's no easy feet. That's where he got 668 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 4: came on my radar in Pereira's just a stonehead as well. 669 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 4: Two to neoc Dusco. And you know when he strikes, 670 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 4: keeps you a little a little high for your boy, 671 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 4: a little high for your boy, which I don't love, 672 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 4: especially when you're finding guy like Chitty, but you know, 673 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 4: just go Chitty. The gigon is unfortunately the path of 674 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 4: victories that you take him to the ground and his 675 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 4: four losses his for most four recent losses and chitty 676 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 4: that is, his guys have taken him down and he 677 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,239 Speaker 4: finished him with ground and pound or they've just kind 678 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 4: of laid on him. Got a decision. Dusco. His two 679 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 4: wins are ground and pound, right, that's what he likes 680 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 4: to do, like to strike. He fancy stuff as a striker. 681 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 4: But I think if you can get in Jikwuane down 682 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 4: to the ground, I think it's gonna be some success 683 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 4: there for for Dousco. So I'm gonna take Disco by TK, 684 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the underdog, and then just to play 685 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 4: the play it safe, I'm also gonna take the fight 686 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 4: the under him, this fight whatever it is, one and 687 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 4: a half, two and a half whatever they listened to. 688 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 4: His Genie's got diamite in his hands. Anytime you can 689 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 4: put him out. Dusco has been knocked out before. But 690 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 4: uh yeah, give me the dog here, man. 691 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 5: I like that. 692 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 6: I like the breakdown and I like the under for sure. 693 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 2: Ken Flow, Cheety and Ja Kawani minus one eighty douche 694 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 2: Gozdovich plus one fifty five your. 695 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 8: Thoughts, Yeah, solid breakdown don't have a whole lot to add. 696 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 8: I'm gonna go the way of Enji Kawani, though I 697 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 8: do see why Brian's going with Disco. I think that 698 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 8: his best shot is to take it down to the ground, 699 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 8: and if he does that, that's what we'll have the advantage. 700 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 8: But I don't think it's gonna be that easy right 701 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 8: against Edji of Kuwani. I do think that Enjakwani is 702 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 8: gonna find that chin. I think that Disco literally just 703 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 8: by dropping that chin down a little bit and uh, 704 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 8: you know, not watching his work so much after Yeah, 705 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 8: dree Lands and compshit well, but he hasn't been able 706 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 8: to break that habit. And I think because of that 707 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 8: edge of Kawani being the striker that he is, will 708 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 8: find the mark uh and get the knockout or TKO 709 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 8: all right. 710 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: Comin event is at Welterwait essentially a pick him right now. 711 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 2: On DraftKings Sports book, Michelle Padeta minus one fifteen. Santiago 712 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 2: Ponzanibo is minus one Zho five. So ponzan Ebo is 713 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 2: a colleague of mine on the broadcasting side. Definitely still 714 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,959 Speaker 2: has championship aspirations. You know, he's been a little bit 715 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 2: snake bitting at times. Injuries, of course, have been a 716 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 2: big part of the narrative. He will be thirty six 717 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 2: years old in September and here fighting Brian at the 718 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 2: very least to preserve his ranking after that split decision 719 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 2: lost to Jeff Neil back in December, he still finds 720 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: himself a number fourteen in the world. And on the 721 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 2: other side, Paeta has won four in a row, last 722 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 2: three by decision to vault into contention. So to speak, 723 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 2: your thoughts on Padeda trying to get by the Ponzi 724 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 2: scheme here Saturday in vas like that. 725 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 4: Who thank you, Mitch, thank you Sean. This is a 726 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 4: fucking banger of a fight. 727 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 5: It is. 728 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 4: Ponzi's lost a lot of team because of injuries, right, 729 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 4: but he's sincely turning from injuries. He's one and two 730 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 4: Pereira's mister Flash, five and two in the UFC and 731 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 4: should be six and one minus Diego knee. But luckily 732 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 4: for Diego he had the Cobra Kai in his corner. 733 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 4: Excuse me, Josh Fabia in his corner, that fucking lunatic. 734 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 4: Uh so he got to win, you know, he said, 735 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 4: I can't see it. Whatever but I can't imagine what 736 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 4: it took for Ponzi to come back from his injury. 737 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 4: I mean, listen, he's he had some kind of like 738 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 4: I don't even know what he had, but for the 739 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 4: mental to come back get dropped by Leach right, Leech 740 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 4: catches you or whatever. And then for Baeza to kick 741 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 4: your calf off, I mean, his calf was gone instead 742 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 4: of checking, instead of going now, let's take this scret 743 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 4: and he's like, I'm gonna keep fucking going forward. Fuck it, 744 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 4: I got another calf whatever. So the mental toughness is there. 745 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 4: And then the Jeff Neil fight was very very close. 746 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 4: You showed off a good you and showed off you 747 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 4: know that what he's been working on. And we haven't 748 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 4: really seen Posnebo be able to do back to back camps. 749 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 4: It's like one good win, let's injury, one good win, 750 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 4: we're away a little bit. But Pereira, man, this guy's 751 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 4: one of the more active guys on the roster. Giant 752 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 4: for one seventy. Guy can dance for days. He's coming 753 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 4: out dance and he can fight too. But man, this 754 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 4: dude kills every interest he comes out on. And the 755 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 4: one thing about uh, Pereira is he had a lot 756 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 4: of finishes outside of the UFC, and I feel like 757 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 4: the Strikings Aery debuted against Deanan Roberts laying in a 758 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 4: flying knee, and then a lot of decision wins, you know, 759 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 4: And then I'm glad he's cut down on the fucking 760 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 4: backflips because it's like, hey, buddy, we're in a fist 761 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 4: fight here. 762 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 5: You're gonna need that energy. 763 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 4: Right, He's twenty seven to eleven Overron, He's only twenty 764 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 4: eight years old. I mean, this guy's got a huge 765 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 4: resume and I like that a lot. You know, the 766 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 4: competition outside the UFC wasn't as big in the UFC, 767 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 4: so maybe that's why the decisions aren't coming. When you 768 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 4: get to the show, it's a lot harder. I love 769 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 4: betting pickums. I'm one of the six son of a 770 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 4: bitches that like a real good pick them fights. I 771 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 4: like being on the right side, So I like Pereira here. 772 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 4: I think he's younger, he's fast as a momentum, so 773 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take him my decision, but I might sprinkle 774 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 4: by Ko because I do think he's he's gonna want 775 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 4: to make a statement. I think he's going to come 776 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 4: out of here. Pasiinibo has been clipped before. You know, 777 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 4: let's go out there and try to finish this fight. 778 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,760 Speaker 2: Amazing to think where Michelle Pareda is can't flow compared 779 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 2: to where he was a couple of years ago. February 780 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 2: twenty twenty gets the DQ loss to Diego Sanchez all 781 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 2: of a sudden one and two in the UFC. Now 782 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 2: he's reeled off four in a row. Some suggest a 783 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 2: more measured, disciplined approach of late, not taking as many risks. 784 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on Padata here in the biggest 785 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: fight of his UFC career to date against the ranked Ponsanibia. 786 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 8: Yeah, this is a very interesting fight. I think it's 787 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 8: going to say a lot of where Patata's at. Pontsanibio 788 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 8: as tough as they come. You know, has a really 789 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 8: good school skill set on the feed and on the ground. 790 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 8: I think for Potsanibio, though, he should try to take 791 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 8: this fight. I think that's where he can really expose Patata, 792 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 8: and I think Paeda has some work to add. You know, 793 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 8: he's only gonna get tougher guys, and a lot of 794 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 8: those guys at one hundred and seventy pounds are going 795 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 8: to be very good grapplers, So I imagine Podata's working 796 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 8: on his ground game, see him as being susceptible there, 797 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 8: But I think Padata really has a much better on 798 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 8: understanding of how to control the distance, how to strike 799 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 8: from the outside. He's as athletic and as strong and 800 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 8: fast as you will see at one hundred and seventy pounds, 801 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 8: and I just love his movement. And he gets a 802 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 8: lot of his anti grappling from his footwork alone, which 803 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 8: can be a very difficult thing to do. That I 804 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 8: think is the hardest thing to learn for a lot 805 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 8: of people, and it's the most important part aspect of striking, 806 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 8: which is often ignored. So I like Padata as a striker. 807 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 8: I like him as my pick here. I think Paeda 808 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 8: gets it done. But I think it's going to say 809 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 8: a lot about Paeda and for Positanibio on. You know 810 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 8: how motivated he as as a fighter at this point 811 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 8: in his career, right. 812 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 2: But I finally, the main event, Holly Holm is a 813 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 2: two to one favorite. Monus two hundred against Kaitlyn Vida 814 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 2: plus one seventy Via looked great. I thought the main 815 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 2: event win over Misha Tate. That was last November. Holly's 816 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 2: been out bright since twenty twenty. She was to face 817 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 2: Irani al Donna a couple of times, Julianna Pena, Norma Dumont. 818 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 2: So it's been a long layoff for Holly, but she 819 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 2: knows she's going to put in the right work. How 820 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 2: do you see her matching up with Kaitlyn Vieta here 821 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 2: five rounds if needed at one hundred and thirty five pounds. 822 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 4: Who's who gets thrown around a lot, but Holly Holm 823 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 4: literally has fault to who's who of MMA and women's boxing. 824 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,879 Speaker 4: I mean, she's forty years old, she's abbed up, making 825 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 4: all of us feel bad about ourselves. I mean, she's 826 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 4: incredible shape, and I actually like the break because she 827 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,720 Speaker 4: was very active. Let's rest the body, let's rest the injuries, 828 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 4: maybe look some more skills or whatever. So the break 829 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 4: doesn't bother me too much, just because she's a little 830 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 4: bit older, and you know, she's fought everyone, so it's like, okay, 831 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 4: let me recoup here, maybe nagging injuries, whatever whatever may happen. 832 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 4: And you know she's good on the ground now you 833 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 4: know it was all she's a boxer you know, she 834 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 4: can kick. She'll kick your fucking head off her shoulders. 835 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 4: She can box, She's got strong cardio for days and 836 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 4: vi era. You know, I don't. I don't want to 837 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 4: be an asshole, but she's never really jumped off the 838 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 4: screen for me. 839 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 6: You know, she doesn't. 840 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,280 Speaker 4: She just kind of squeaks out for you know, decisions 841 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,760 Speaker 4: or whatever. Her takedowns are below average at forty six percent. 842 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 4: That's a stat. I'm throwing stats at you. Now look 843 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 4: at too, Yeah, and they're striking a solid but it's 844 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 4: not a volume behind it, right. 845 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 5: You know. 846 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 4: She she likes like the Amitia Tate fight another fight. 847 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 4: She likes to low people into her game plan. I 848 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 4: just don't think that's Holly Holmes's game. I think Holly 849 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 4: can strike from the outside. I think she can win 850 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 4: the clinch. I think she can win the grappling, you know. 851 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 4: And you know, Caitlyn's not a finish so she has 852 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 4: one finish out of her six UFC wins. So I 853 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 4: like Holly here big. I was gonna put this as 854 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,359 Speaker 4: a hair bet. I feel kind of cheap going hair 855 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 4: bet with a two to one favorite. I think maybe 856 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 4: I should do it a little bit. Maybe a pickam on, 857 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 4: but I'm very big on Holly here. I like her 858 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 4: by decision. 859 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 2: All right, Petrie convicted on the Holly home side. Can 860 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 2: flow your thoughts on the main event. Yeah, I think 861 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 2: Kaitlyn can win this fight, but. 862 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 8: You know, I think it's gonna be difficult, and I 863 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 8: think her best bet is to try to get Holly 864 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 8: up against the cage, hit some takedowns, and even they 865 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 8: are you know, decent ground and pound, has some submissions there, 866 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 8: but I don't see her getting a submission or really 867 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 8: getting Holly in a terrible position where she can finish 868 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,280 Speaker 8: this one by TKO I do. I do think Hally's 869 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 8: gonna be able to use her footwork, score from the outside, 870 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 8: stick and move, you know, avoid those takedown attempts, and 871 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 8: just use her overall experience to get the win here. 872 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 8: So I like what I saw from here in her 873 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 8: last fight against al Donna. I think she's, you know, 874 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 8: showing someone's getting more comfortable in the cage. I've been 875 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 8: looking for Holly to kind of let go of having 876 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 8: all that pressure that she brings in with her to 877 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 8: the cage, and I'm starting to see that, you know, 878 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 8: and she's been fighting a long time, so it sounds 879 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 8: funny to say, but she is getting more comfortable in 880 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 8: there in my opinion, and showing improvements and continues to 881 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,399 Speaker 8: work very hard in the gym. 882 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 6: And I like Holly here as well. 883 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do believe that she is showing the best 884 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 2: version of herself of late. I know it's been a while, 885 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 2: but I do believe like you do, that she's getting better. 886 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 2: All right, Brad, Before we let you go, our Anakimploran 887 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 2: podcast poll question this week more likely to win their 888 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 2: fight as an underdog? Coming up this weekend, Chase Hooper 889 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 2: at plus one thirty five against Felipe Colotta, sher Eric Anders, 890 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 2: who is plus one sixty five against Junyong Park. 891 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 6: Just using this as a way to kind of hit 892 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 6: on these two fights. 893 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, before I let you fly, any value for you 894 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 2: on Chase Hooper or Eric Anders? We had fifteen percent 895 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,240 Speaker 2: of our audience. 896 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 6: No, that's not right. 897 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 2: We had fifty one point three percent of our audience 898 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 2: likes Chase Hooper plus one thirty five, thirty five point 899 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 2: seven percent like Eric Anders, and then the remaining thirteen 900 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 2: percent said, give me both favorites, chock, So do you 901 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 2: like Hooper or Anders? In the role of underdog this weekend. 902 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 4: Yo boy, your boy Eric Canders, I do like and 903 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,919 Speaker 4: I'm gonna pick him and I'm gonna play him. Listen, 904 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 4: Eric Anders, he only struggles with guys who are elite 905 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 4: at what they do. He switched camps. He got subbed 906 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 4: early by Munez. I know he's fucking pissed off by that. 907 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,720 Speaker 4: He's the competitor, the guy played for Alabama for kaist sakes. 908 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 5: He's mad. 909 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 4: He's like, I switched his camp. I changed my whole 910 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 4: life around. I'm gonna get sub He knows a special 911 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 4: on the ground though, so I like Anders on the feet. 912 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 4: The Iron Turtle whis one of the best nicknamed ever 913 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 4: Chinn for weeks, but Anders, if he looks like what 914 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 4: he did against Darian Stewart, sharp Chris boxing, that tricky saltball, 915 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 4: I think Anders can mix it up well as well. 916 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,479 Speaker 4: I think he can land takedowns on the Iron Turtle, 917 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 4: who I don't think is a killer. He's not a 918 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 4: killer anyway. That's where Ander struggles with killer like Khalil 919 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 4: Roundtree is a killer, you know, Andre Munez is a 920 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 4: killer on the ground. The Iron Turtle's not, you know, 921 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 4: so I like him to win here. I like him 922 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 4: to win probably by decision because the Turtle's not gonna 923 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 4: get finished here and the Chase Super. I'll touch on 924 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 4: that a little bit. I know the audience likes Chase Super. 925 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 4: You know, he's bigger than Krallis. I think he might 926 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 4: be a little outgunned. Cralis has never been lost by submission. 927 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 4: I think that's the only way Chase wins. Chases up 928 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 4: much bigger than him. But unless his striking defense and 929 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 4: his wrestling has greatly improved, which it could be. He's 930 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 4: twenty two years old, right, I just I don't like 931 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 4: that spot for him, But who knows me? He could 932 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 4: catch a submission. That's a good hail Mary play Chase 933 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 4: Super by submission is gonna have a nice little plus 934 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 4: number on it, So that'll be. 935 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 6: A big number. 936 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 2: And it's amazing that Chase Hooper's still just twenty two, 937 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 2: still the fourth youngest fighter on this UFC roster. 938 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 6: Top to bottom. All right, good stuff. 939 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 2: If you want more from Brian Peatrie, you can find 940 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 2: him on the MMA Takes podcast. The Twitter handle is 941 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 2: at Brian Peatrie MMA. My brother, have a good week ago, 942 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 2: talk to you less than six days. 943 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 3: I love it. 944 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 6: See you boys, all right. 945 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 2: So I felt pretty good over the course of the 946 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 2: last seventy five minutes. Cody, I'm not feeling great right now. 947 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 2: So it's your birthday. I want to get to the 948 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 2: Merrow seconds. But I'm starting to perspire a little bit. 949 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 3: So make it for charity, I guess for charity. I mean, 950 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 3: I so little quick story about my Twitter hand. I 951 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 3: mean mine's Cody Underscore Mma, even though my Instagram's Cody Marrow. 952 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 3: But the guy who has the. 953 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 6: Regular underscore Merrow not Underscore MMA, right right right. 954 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 3: But I'm saying so the guy that has that Twitter 955 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 3: hasn't used Twitter since twenty thirteen works at AT and 956 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 3: T in Arizona. Like I'm tempted to just go out 957 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 3: there and be like, yo, like, do we get to 958 00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 3: sign up for a phone plan to get you to 959 00:42:59,520 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 3: change this? 960 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 6: What's up? 961 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 5: You know? 962 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 6: I go all the way there. 963 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 3: I like that or Elon. Elon might honestly do it 964 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 3: for me, like if I can get a response out 965 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 3: of him, which I did get Max Holloway to share 966 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 3: the Hawaiian Kickbox. If I was on Halloway story for 967 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,919 Speaker 3: my birthday too. So boom, your boys having a great, 968 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 3: great time and also might be an international fight week 969 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:20,240 Speaker 3: to see Max Holloway. 970 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 5: Wow. 971 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, not exactly breaking news, but news. 972 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 5: Yeah. 973 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 3: And I wish i could be at Steve Lee's fight, 974 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 3: but I'll probably be at CFFC. So Steve, come on, 975 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 3: go Steve, Go Steve Lee. Meriseconds. I've just got two 976 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 3: notes for you from the last card and one note 977 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 3: on me. I lost a hundred bucks gambling yesterday because 978 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 3: of the Maple Leafs, So thanks a lot, Canada. 979 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 2: I lost my shirt on the Maple Leafs. I thought 980 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 2: they were gonna find a way. I still believe that 981 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 2: they're too good a team to lose in the first round. 982 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 2: And I know we do have a good segment of 983 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 2: fans who listen to us from Toronto and Canada. I'm 984 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 2: sorry to the Maple Leafs. I don't even know what 985 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 2: to say that that organization is just so snake but 986 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 2: you know, at home too rough. 987 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 3: I'd love to see it happen the Maleiefs though, so 988 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 3: Number one Jan Belkhovich, We've talked about this before, making 989 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 3: his case to being the UFC Hall of Fame. I mean, 990 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 3: just keeps doing it. Ninth all time in late he 991 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 3: light heavyweight wins seventh all time or sorry, ninth all 992 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 3: time light heavyweight fights, seventh all time light heavyweight wins 993 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 3: Glover number two, John Jones number one, of course, eighth 994 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 3: all time, and knockdowns in the light heavyweight division, which 995 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 3: is the most story division in all the UFC on 996 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 3: fourth and six strikes all time. So Yan just making 997 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:35,839 Speaker 3: his case there with some numbers. 998 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 6: Ken Flow. 999 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 2: Yan's not a Hall of Famer for me, and I 1000 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 2: obviously like having these conversations. I know, I'm married into 1001 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 2: a Polish family. I just am not sure that he's 1002 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,360 Speaker 2: there yet. And again, it's essentially a one man voting 1003 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,399 Speaker 2: body in Theory White with UFC President Dana White. It's 1004 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 2: not like there is some hard and fast criteria. But 1005 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 2: you know, Boh which won the belt, defended it. I mean, Kenny, 1006 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,439 Speaker 2: do you see him as a modern ara a UFC 1007 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer right now based upon the body of work? 1008 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 6: Probably? Probably not. 1009 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 8: It's tough, right because here's a guy who's who's a 1010 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 8: world champ, you know, and I think that alone is 1011 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 8: kind of worthy, right, But. 1012 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 6: How do you I don't know. I think every undisputed 1013 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 6: UFC champion gonna be a Hall of Famer. I just 1014 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 6: don't know. It's tough. 1015 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:28,399 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think, you know, having those memorable performances, those 1016 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 8: things that people kind of uh you know, remember and 1017 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 8: and and get excited about, and you know, those classic 1018 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 8: fights and classic wins that are very memorable, I think 1019 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 8: plays a huge part. 1020 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 6: And I'm not sure Yan is there. Yeah, I mean 1021 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 6: the Luke rock Cold win was huge. 1022 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 2: Obviously, you couldn't have done it any better in terms 1023 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 2: of winning the belt against Dominic. Reyes did take Israel 1024 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 2: lot of Sonia's oh, but there was nothing classic about 1025 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 2: that fight. 1026 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 6: It's interesting, Cody. 1027 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I do think it stands to reason that 1028 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 2: when all is said and done, if he can become 1029 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 2: a two time champion, for sure, he a little short 1030 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 2: for me right now. 1031 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 6: But I love you young well. 1032 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 3: And you almost wonder if there should someday be an 1033 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 3: international wing of the UFC Hall of Fame, like, you know, 1034 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 3: for people that have done more for the sport in 1035 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 3: a certain area, but maybe you know, not the most successful, 1036 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 3: you know fighter. Just an interesting thought. 1037 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:15,319 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1038 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 3: So the last marro seconds note was just some perspective 1039 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,760 Speaker 3: for Chukegian Like a lot of all time flyweight data 1040 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,800 Speaker 3: that supports Chukegian, you know, just being one of the 1041 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,360 Speaker 3: stalwarts of the division. Of all time, most fights in 1042 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 3: flyweight history, most wins, one more win over Valentina in 1043 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 3: the division most decision wins as well, only ninth in 1044 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,840 Speaker 3: average fight time, though Valentina is actually number one in 1045 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 3: that stat She has over sixteen minutes of fight time average, 1046 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:47,800 Speaker 3: so she averages a title fight second all time in 1047 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 3: total wins and with or sorry sorry second all time 1048 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 3: total fight time, she'll surpass Roxanne with three more minutes. 1049 00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:01,240 Speaker 2: Roxanne Modaferi a one woman, a one name woman in MMA. 1050 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 2: You just got to say rock sand Everybody knows who 1051 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 2: you're talking about. It's fucking unbelievable. 1052 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 6: You don't have to turn on the red light. Kenny's 1053 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:11,240 Speaker 6: just calling karaoke. 1054 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 2: Second kid's fucking twenty nine years old and maybe too 1055 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 2: smart for his own good at twenty nine years old. Though, 1056 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:20,319 Speaker 2: all right, we got to get on out of here 1057 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 2: before we go. I have a final parting shot, and 1058 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 2: I would like to congratulate Paul Daily on an unbelievable, 1059 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 2: legendary mixed martial arts career. Some of our audience certainly 1060 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 2: knows how it ended unceremoniously with the UFC one of 1061 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 2: my favorite fighters to watch for years. When I was 1062 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 2: trying to get people into MMA, I would say just 1063 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 2: go watch Nick Diaz versus Paul Daily. I just wanted 1064 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 2: to acknowledge Paul Daily for the viewership because he has 1065 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,760 Speaker 2: been so exciting to watch and what an incredible knockout 1066 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 2: upon which to go out. I don't know if you 1067 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 2: had anything on Paul Daily, but I was not going 1068 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,319 Speaker 2: to finish the show today without shouting him out after 1069 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,840 Speaker 2: he went into retirement inarguably the best way possible. 1070 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 8: Well, this man, you know, certainly a legend over from 1071 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,840 Speaker 8: the UK, a guy who has you know, always performed 1072 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 8: really well, exciting to watch, definitely got a lot of 1073 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 8: people to tune in. Anytime he was fighting over in Strikeforce, UFC, 1074 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 8: Bell Tour didn't matter a tremendous When to see him 1075 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,320 Speaker 8: go out like that, man was pretty awesome. 1076 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 6: When is your next broadcast? You have a PFL show 1077 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 6: this week or no? Well no, all right, No, I'm up. 1078 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 5: That's nice. 1079 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 6: So next month, next month we're back at it. 1080 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:30,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, all right? 1081 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,800 Speaker 2: If you want more from Ken Flow in terms of 1082 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 2: the jiu jitsu, tutorials. Maybe that's not the right word, 1083 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 2: but Kenny Florian Martial Arts dot com is live. Also, 1084 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 2: you can get merchandise anta Florian podcast dot com fam 1085 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 2: fifteen for fifteen percent off Kenny Florian Martial Arts dot com. 1086 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 2: There's a code there a F fifteen as well. One 1087 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 2: more sleep merchandise can be had at millions dot COO. 1088 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 2: All right, thank you to Ray Longo and Brian Petrie. 1089 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 2: Happy birthday to our executive producer Cody Merrow. We will 1090 00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 2: talk to you guys in two weeks as we get 1091 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 2: at you ready for the UFC Fight Night coming up 1092 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 2: on June fourth, and of course UFC two seventy five 1093 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:05,800 Speaker 2: in Singapore on June eleven. 1094 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,280 Speaker 6: Thank you all for listening, for subscribing, for watching. 1095 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,720 Speaker 2: We appreciate you sending the word along as we continue 1096 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 2: to grow the Little engine that could. 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