WEBVTT - Episode 16 - Brandon Ray (10-26-16) 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:07.800 What episode away I might is that paper episode sixteen. 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:11.319 Welcome to episode sixteen of the Bobby Cast. I'm your host, 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:16.680 Bobby Cast. That's correct. Here with Brandon Ray on Twitter, 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:19.680 Brandon Ray Music here ran Now what's going on? Okay? So, 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:22.599 I think are talking a little different than any of 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:25.200 the talks that I've had with an artist before, because 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:27.040 I think with you, you're right in the middle of 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:30.920 the try like you're right in the middle of trying 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:33.920 to find your spot wherever it is in this industry 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:36.240 and in the past, that's what's cool about this. I 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:38.200 can do whatever I want. In the past, I've had 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:41.599 people who have made it as great songwriters, people who 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:44.120 have made it as artists, Like you're just pretty mediocre 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:46.320 right now, let's me to be honest. That's that's my 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:50.400 middle name. So listen, Brandon is one I've played him 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:52.960 on the show before, like he's that good. So, um, 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:55.920 we'll talk to Brandon right after this message from Blue Apron. 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:58.560 By the way, you ever had Blue Apron? Blue Apron? 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:02.960 That's great, Dan, heck of a tingle. Listen, Blue Apron 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:04.800 is awesome. Without them, we would not be able to 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:06.920 do this, Bobby Cast. And so let me tell you 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:08.720 what Blue Apron does. They send food you ever have 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.080 blue Apron, you can say no, it's okay, do you 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:13.559 have it sit too your house with someone cook for okay? 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:16.480 So what happened to? They send you the food and 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:18.920 it comes in a box and it's not made already, 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:22.280 so you're not ordering. You ordering ingredients, and they send 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:25.120 you all the ingredients and already prepackaged and they're pre 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:27.480 like measured, so you don't have to go buy a 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:31.120 whole jar of something for a pinch. Uh. So you 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:34.040 take that and you have to give you listen to 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:35.959 some reason that I can even get away with it 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:37.280 is that they give you the card and it tells 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:39.920 you exactly how to make this stuff. And so it's 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.760 all fresh ingredients. And so that's what blue Apron is 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:45.840 all about. Variety, and it's flexible, it's easy. You can 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:48.000 check out this week's menu and get your first three 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:51.720 meals for free with free shipping blue apron dot com 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:55.440 slash Bobby Meals. Do you cook for your wife ever, 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.480 so you're you're gonna cook, you can totally full her 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.840 and have this sent to you know, your side chick's house. 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:06.360 Take that and then could not at least she doesn't know. 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:09.760 Blue Apron dot Com slash Bobby meals you love how 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:12.480 good at tastes and feels you like you'll create incredible 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:14.960 home cook meals with Blue Apron again to get the deal. 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:18.480 Blue Apron dot Com slash Bobby meals. That's one word 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:21.560 I say, meals like. I'm from Arkansas, so it's Bobby 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:26.240 m E A L s. Bobby meals meal whatever, Blue 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:28.239 Apron a better way to cook. Thank you Apron for 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:31.320 sponsoring this. Now. Brandon Ray is here at Brandon Ray 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.640 Music on Twitter and Instagram. All right, so let me 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:36.520 tell you. I want to start with today and kind 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:38.800 of work all the way back around because Brandon's an 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:42.040 interesting story. Brandon is so good. I said, hey, will 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:43.440 you come out and play a few shows with us 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:45.839 with the raging idiots? And he has And I really 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:47.920 don't know how good he was until we got on 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:50.680 the road, like our news good, and then he's like 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:53.720 mind blowingly good. Actually stand beside and playing. I don't 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.840 just say that about anybody, um, because I get to 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:01.120 see everybody, so Bebian said Brandon. I'll play a song 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:02.839 right now that that Brandon has out. This is called 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:09.480 American way. Here we go up, sad down too freaking 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:22.760 weekend him him a seamer. Brandon is also a fantastic 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.760 guitar player. So I play this, this is that could 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:35.680 be us from brand a right good thing, that could 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.800 be all right, welcome back to the music now. I 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:40.800 would like to be as honest as possible as of 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.600 right now, you do not have a record deal. Not okay. 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:47.280 So here you are, You're in talent, you're grinding, you're playing, 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:51.840 You're like of the rest of Nashville. You're really good, 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.360 and you don't have a record deal right now. So 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:58.800 what has that process been like? Like have you played 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:01.400 for people like kay Like, Hey'm gonna talk about every 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.600 time she played Kaylin Smith, she played for Zone people 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:05.600 and they all say no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:07.880 no no no, like whatever it is right now. No, 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:10.280 have you been through that where you've played They go no, 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:14.240 not right now. We We've taken We've taken a little 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.320 swing a couple of times. What do that mean? Like 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.279 just you know people like I have a publishing deal 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:23.200 with Sony a TV, which means you write I write 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:26.720 songs for a living for you know, artists for TV. 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:31.359 Film sinks for you know myself that Sony then takes 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.160 those songs pitches them. Uh. And what they have is 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:38.920 an artist development branch inside the publishing company that kind 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.240 of does like a They help you with recording, they 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.960 help you with touring, Like I just booked a show 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:46.599 with Jake Owen in Vegas. You know it's gonna cost 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:48.800 us much. I might lose this much and they make 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:52.159 up the difference things like that. Okay, so you have 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:55.320 a publishing deal and that's how you eat plus touring. Yes, 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:59.400 so that's your job. But you're you want to be 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:03.720 an artist? I do. I you know, right now for 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:07.640 me is is building. It's it's the the building phase 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:12.440 of of touring my my butt off, like every single weekend. 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:16.200 I think I've been gone Thursday through Sunday every weekend 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:21.120 since February. And uh, it's so important right now to 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:24.200 to build that fan base, whether it's it's being out 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:26.240 with you guys, which I can't thank you enough for 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:29.640 inviting me out with the raging idiots because it's been 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:33.040 such a blast, Like the fans show up. I mean 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.760 every single show is sold out. Like I don't think 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:37.960 people will realize how how big it is and how 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:42.680 fun it is, and just those chances and believers like 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.240 you that that just say hey, man, come hang and 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.520 and then we get to know each other and and 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:50.960 you you, you know, promote things for me or you know, 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:52.919 share a post of mine or share a song on 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:56.560 your show. It is it means everything to someone like 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:58.520 me because I don't have a label, I don't have 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:03.320 the radio support right now and uh, right now, you 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:06.039 know in this for this for the past six to 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:10.200 eight months has been just grind and just going town 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:14.159 to town to town building, uh and making believers out 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:16.800 of everybody I play for, all of the headliners I 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:19.640 opened for, and even the club and theater owners that 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:22.040 I play talk about the headliners the eve before that 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:23.440 if said, hey, come out on the road because I 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:25.359 think it pretty good. Who have you played for that 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:28.440 You're like, dang, this was really cool. Recently, man, there's 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:31.559 there's been uh, just a lot of really cool people. 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:36.720 John Party has just kind of overwhelmed me with just 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.120 he's just such a nice guy and uh, his fan 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.960 base is just is growing rapidly. If happened to get 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.400 the number one song and another great song, yeah, man, 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.560 and even before uh, I was playing with him even 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:53.200 before Uh Boots went number one. I think it was 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:57.200 in the top twenty. And his fans knew every single 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:00.520 word to every song, even even like the East sides 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:02.120 of his album. You know, he'd be like, I wanna 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.320 take it back to you know, one of my first 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:06.760 releases and No. Nine and he plays it and the 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:10.280 crowd just takes over, and Uh, so that just taught me. 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:13.920 He's taught me so much about just kindness and how 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:18.000 to treat people. And UH guys like John Party, guys 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:21.200 like keep More. Martin McBride has had me out on 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:23.920 a few runs, which that was so cool, you know, 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:25.800 getting to just kind of be a part of a 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:29.880 show that that she's doing. And um, guys like David Neil. 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:34.200 I'm going, uh this weekend out in the Midwest doing 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:36.720 some shows and then next weekend with a Frankie Ballard 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:40.400 and uh, it's just it's all about to hang, you know. 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:43.800 I used to play uh guitar for different artists in town, 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:46.360 one in particular being Brett Elders. I think that's where 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.360 we met the first time. I think I was shooting 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:49.880 a TV thing with Brett where we lay in the 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:52.400 bunk together and you were playing guitar for Brett Elders. 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:55.280 That's right. Yeah. The thing about Brandon is I didn't 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:57.680 like Brandon the first time I really hung out with Like, 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:00.800 I thought, what a douche bag for about two hours 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:04.480 because what happened was, now, this is the true story. 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:07.760 I didn't I judged him simply on his hair, like 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:12.200 because no, no, it's actually I like it now, but 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.760 it was spiked, you know, And I almost like, Okay, dude, 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:19.320 spiked there. Come on. So he gets on with someone 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:23.600 that I just think is phenomenal, like Lucy Sylvia's went 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:26.640 out with us on the road and it is quite 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:32.240 possibly one of my favorite people and artists in Nashville. Bobby, Bobby, 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:34.360 thank you so much for having me on the road, 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.080 and thank you so much for just being a great friend. 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:40.319 So Lucy Silva and Brandon plays guitar for her, and 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:41.760 I was like, hey, just take the bus with us. 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:43.880 I don't don't don't drive, don't pay for expensive just 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:45.400 get on the bus and you can sleep on the box. 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:47.960 And so that man, it was a total douche and 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.480 so and then of the night it was just Brandon 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:52.120 night and we talked like four hours. It was like 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:53.680 a brand new couple. You know, how you meet somebody 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.280 and you're like, we just talked all night long. I 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:59.160 think I'm in love. And that's how it was Brandon. 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:02.280 And so you know, with us, we either had Nat 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:04.720 with the raging idiots we think Natalie Stowball or Lindsay 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:09.959 l Um and then for some reason not for some reason, 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.320 they're both phenomenal. They were doing their own tours and 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:14.600 I was like, we need another player. Let's get Brandon 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:16.520 because he was and so now we'll just have Brandy 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:19.960 come out with them and listen, I don't have lead 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:22.800 singer disease, which means I don't have to sing all 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:24.800 the time or half the time. When you have somebody 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.360 like Brandon, it's like, all right, you take it away. 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:31.079 Here's brand and everyone uh and and Brandon like blows 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:33.200 your away when he sings. Now let's go back for 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:35.280 a second because I have some stuff here. Um, this 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:39.680 is a jingle called Let's Go Cubs. So this is 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.920 you and how and how long ago was? This was? 0:09:43.280 --> 0:10:08.720 Oh seven, so almost ten years ago. Okay, here we go. Yeah, well, okay, 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.439 did you write did you write that good that's terrible songs, 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:15.120 but you're saying it well, and listen for me. I'm 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.880 a diehard Cubs fan. And it's weird too because I 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:19.920 also liked the Cardinals a lot, and as you get older, 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:22.480 you realize that I like as a kid, I was 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:24.080 not a Cardinals fan because I was a Cubs fan. 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:26.120 But then I had friends that played for the Cardinals, 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.160 and then I got to know the organization, and so 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:32.839 you know, I'm a diehard Cubs fan. And I'm talking 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:34.480 about a minute ago, like right now, you may hear 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:36.000 this in a month in the World Series, maybe over 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:38.320 maybe the Cups got swept, maybe they wanted At this point, 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:42.080 we don't know. It's one zero. I'm a diehard Cups fan. 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:46.720 And people are like, oh, bandwagoners, we hate him. I 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:49.400 don't care if they're a bandwagoners. I don't care if 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.040 you called me a bandwagoner, because I only care about 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.559 my heart and right now, I just want my heart 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:56.719 to be full with Cubs victory. Like I haven't done 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:57.880 this on this show, and I don't know if I 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.120 will or not, but I'm going to Game four of 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.320 the World Series because my whole life I've been waiting 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:04.520 for this dam that's such a dream. They haven't won 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.680 in a hundred and eight years and this, this song 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.080 probably kept them from winning other game, because that's terrible. 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.320 If they heard this, they were like, we should suck 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.319 like the song does, like the singer is pretty good, 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:20.960 but how much they pay to do this? All right? 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:25.040 I'm gonna be completely honest right now. Um, I sang 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:28.600 jingles for I was in a rock band through high 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:30.680 school and college. And I was trying to go to 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:33.920 college and touring with this rock band, and I worked 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:37.400 for this company called T M Century that did jingles. 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:40.600 They did everything from like radio tags like any five 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.280 five you know, all that kind of stuff, and stuff 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.720 like this. You know where you submit, you know, there's 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:49.480 like hey, um, like they just said, Chicago Cubs, they're 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.319 looking for a cool new theme song to play on 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:56.760 their w J. We're gonna have you sing this anyway. 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.960 So this guy, this is the one of the riders. 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.440 I say that with quotes um the writer producers like, hey, 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:07.800 I had just got done singing like Dave and Sandy 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:11.640 in the morning, you know, some some awful song like that, 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:15.320 because hey man, uh I got this Chicago Cubs pitch thing. 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:18.080 You know, they're looking for something. I was like, dude, 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:20.199 I'm love. I'm such a huge baseball fan. I was 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:23.720 telling you earlier, huge Texas Rangers fan. You know, watch 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:25.880 Nolan Ryan as a kid and all that, and I 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:28.400 was like, dude, let's do it. And so we recorded 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:32.240 this awful excuse for a song and it got picked up. 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:36.880 It was the up. I was so surprised and kind 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:41.160 of um, kind of sick about it because they paid 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:45.120 me forty dollars and that's it. So okay, So you 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:48.600 got paid a salary though to sing, no, you're a 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:53.679 contract and I got paid. They should have like I 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:56.680 should have paid them. I mean that listen saying listen, 0:12:56.720 --> 0:13:00.040 I don't take any away from the vocal of that, 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:04.200 but listen when I go, Cubs Go go, Cubs go, 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:07.319 like that's the one that I that's what when they win, 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.959 that's what they play. I was just doing my job. Man. 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:12.760 You talk about singing jingles, I think that's a fun 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:14.440 thing to talk about, because did you sing like a 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.800 frisky is the cat jingle? I did? Yeah, I sing, 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:21.160 I sing It's awful, you know, just this happy like 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:25.400 you know, little toy piano thing that and I have 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:27.880 I have a buddy in New York who runs a 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:31.600 music house that he does like Toyota Nissan for He's 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.920 done a ton of commercials and sometimes when they need 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:38.280 non union singers, he'll give me a call. And still 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.120 to this day, like he'll be like, hey man, you 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:41.679 know this company, they just want to do a one 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:45.000 time fee. Could you sing this thing? And you know 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:46.880 it might get picked up, it might not. So I've 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:50.280 sing so many jingles that haven't gotten picked up, but 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:52.840 I've sing about you know, six or seven that that 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:54.880 got picked up. What has it got picked up? Like, 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:56.800 I'm curious enough if I would recognize any of them? 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:00.800 Uh so Miller Lite. There was a commercial back in 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:05.680 I think the twelve World Series where this guy was 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:09.000 putting a quarter in a jukebox and every time he 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:10.839 would hit a song he wanted to play, like Rocky 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.760 like a Hurricane by the Scorpions. It would come up 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:18.599 as is it Eric Carmen who saying, O bay myself, 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:20.320 that song will play? And I all I had to 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:24.000 do was just sing it, you know. And I'm sitting 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:27.760 at a bar in Cool Springs watching the World Series 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:29.480 and the guy was like, hey man, it's down to 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:32.160 you in another another guy. I don't know if you'll 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:34.440 get it, but check it out. And so I watch 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:37.440 it exactly Eric Carmen. He was up against yeah, Eric 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:40.720 Carmen himself. He needs the money. No. Uh. And it 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:43.320 played and I was like, that's not me, Like that 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:46.960 does not sound like me. And and then he calls me, 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:48.600 he's like, did you hear it? I was like, yeah, 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:50.280 it wasn't me. He's like, no, it was you, dude. 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.720 He's like, I had to put this crazy compression thing 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:54.840 on it, but that's you. I was like, oh my god, 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:56.760 So did you get paid for that? But since you're 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:58.880 not in union, you get paid one time? One time? 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:02.440 And that's what what was that one? You remember it was? 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:04.640 It was a good amount? Over thousand dollars? Oh yeah, 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:08.320 over five thousand dollars? Wow? Really does? I have a 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:11.080 buddy who did a commercial for like four or something 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:14.160 and he made I did three commercials, made three hundred 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:17.120 and eighty thousand dollars. It's incredible. Yeah. And so he 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:21.160 made it and he invested in a band and lost 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.640 all and blew it all. I was like, you know, 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:25.520 I could have given you about a hundred investment I 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:31.520 did maybe Apple, I don't know, Walmart, Dunkin Donuts. Maybe 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.520 you picked Yahoo just on bankrupt that's your first instinct. 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.200 Maybe I had to look at your money? Should you should? I? 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:39.840 I was thinking of Atlantis more set who like invested 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.600 early made like three fifty million dollars. At a point 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:44.720 in our life, Yah, who was the search engine? It 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.200 was like it wasn't Yahoo it but it was like 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.760 go to Yahoo, you know, so we would go to 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:53.200 Yahoo dot com. It was before Google, and you searched 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:55.800 on Yahoo. That's where we found. For a minute, to 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:59.520 ask Jeeves was the thing. You got to the buttler 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:03.000 and to be like, Jeeves, where can I find information 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:05.160 on the Scorpions? Or who sings rock? You'd like her 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:09.240 this week? Yes? And Jeeves the butler would tell you. 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:11.560 But then Google took it up. Did you know Google 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:16.240 was called BackRub before it was called Google. Yah? It 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.480 the thing is and would it be okay we laugh, 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:25.000 but Google is a ridiculous word. And if you if 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:27.800 if if I was backrubbing something right now online and 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.400 I was like, hey, they almost called this thing Google 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.480 would be like why would they pick it? The stupid thing? 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.320 When backrob is awesome. Hey just BackRub it. Yeah, that's 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:39.640 what would be like. Hey, I'm gonna backroub blue Apron 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.080 to see what how you know how much it listen. 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:44.560 I don't hate BackRub. I know it sounds like you 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:46.760 hate it. I don't hate BackRub rand. I think you're 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:51.480 being a little hater backgroub um. So you came you're 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:54.320 from Texas. So being from Texas and I get tell. 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:55.920 But I lived a long time in Texas and I 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:59.920 loved like Austin to me as home to Austin is 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:05.840 a favorite. It's so good and because people are just chill. 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:08.520 But when you're in Texas, you have a lot of influences. 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:10.920 So there's a lot of country music around you. There's 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:12.720 a lot of Southern rock around you. There's a lot 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.840 of rock around you. So as you're growing up, you 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:17.960 were deciding kind of where you wanted to go musically. 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:19.880 Was it because a lot of your friends were rock 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:22.919 friends that you decide I want to do music, So 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:24.960 I guess I'm gonna go and try a rock band. 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:28.040 I didn't have any friends. No, I'm just kidding, um No, 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:32.280 I I originally wanted to be a professional pitcher. I 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:36.879 wanted to play baseball professionally. I played football, baseball, basketball, track, 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:38.919 all that kind of stuff. And um, I had to 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.760 have two surgeries on my foot. I have like two 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:44.639 screws this long in my foot. And so basically they're like, 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:46.920 hey man, when you go this long. People that are 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:49.600 only listening to this, they having no idea how long 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:52.760 that is? This long? Yes, okay, that long? Okay, now 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:55.560 they see the second time you go this long and 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:59.200 don't say yes, go ahead anyway. So it took me 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:02.040 out of sports comple lately, and so naturally I was 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:04.560 I had to lay up with my foot up in 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:07.280 the air. You know. It was such a major surgery. 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:09.840 I had two surgeries. For six months at the time, 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.119 I couldn't do anything. And so I was like, well, 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:17.440 you know, my brother plays drums and and and for you. 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:19.760 Now even to this day, he lives here in Nashville, 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:21.879 and we we were about to meet up and and 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:25.639 you can definitely tell Brandon's brother when you see them together, 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:28.520 like else, go ahead, Yeah, that's right, he's he's like 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:32.560 a foot shorter though. Um but uh, I bought a guitar, 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:36.040 a cheap guitar um with with a little Amp and everything. 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:41.080 And I would seriously watch Steve ravon videos just on repeat, 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:44.200 and I just watched his Native Texas native He's He's 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:47.320 the dude. And my dad loves Steve ra Van and um, 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:50.639 so I started learning that stuff. But I also started 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.520 learning you know, a lot of my influences like, uh, 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:57.399 you know, John Mellencamp, Metallica, Pantera, Garth Brooks, George Straight, 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:00.600 Joe Diffy, like my my house was a elsing pot 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:04.520 of music. And I think our age though, is that's 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:09.440 like if you're one, how old you okay, if you're 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:13.040 twenty seven or above, is when you started to have 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:18.360 Napster affect your life. And it's when that's the minds 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:21.720 of everyone starting to change about music. We got lots 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:24.920 of influences more so than anybody else because we started 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:26.159 to be able to get it all the time anywhere 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:28.479 that's as we want, and for free, yeah, I mean 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:31.040 illegally and and listen, back in the day, not the 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:33.320 interrupted story, but I'm gonna go almost interrupted story. Back 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:35.080 in the day, I was so mad at Metallica for 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:37.840 like for going against it. I was like, Metallica sucks, 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.400 they hate Napster, and I get all the music for free, 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:43.240 and I deserve all the music for free. I was 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:45.960 such an idiot. I was an idiot, and Metallica was 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:49.800 absolutely right, and that's right. This is people creating music. 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:53.440 You should have to pay for this. And I stole, 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:55.240 like crazy, how I would just log on, hit the 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:57.359 letter A, and then download every song I started with 0:19:57.440 --> 0:19:59.400 day all formats. I would go to sleep at night 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:01.600 and wake up with song to start with A, and 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:03.119 be like, let's see what I like today, Like I 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:06.480 don't like ABBA, but I'll listen. Yes, And I would yes. 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:08.919 So you're listening to all these types of music and 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:11.199 you have a guitar and a broken foot basically, so 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:14.080 do you just start learning to play guitar? I just 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:17.760 I don't know what it was. It was just almost 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:21.320 like it was the only option. You know. I didn't 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:24.360 have sports anymore. I was horrible in school, and so 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:27.320 I wanted to start a band with my brothers, and uh, 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:32.280 there you go, come on your brothers at the time, 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:34.560 So I have two older brothers, and I think I 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:37.240 think that's why I had such a such a big 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:39.399 influence of music. They were they were older than I was, 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:41.760 and so you let what they like what they like. 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:46.160 My my brother, oldest brother, Derek would bring home like Aerosmith, 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:49.439 and uh, you know like the Eagles and Don Henley 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:52.080