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Speaker 1: What episode away I might is that paper episode sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode sixteen of the Bobby Cast. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Bobby Cast. That's correct. Here with Brandon Ray on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: Brandon Ray Music here ran Now what's going on? Okay? So,

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Speaker 1: I think are talking a little different than any of

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Speaker 1: the talks that I've had with an artist before, because

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Speaker 1: I think with you, you're right in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the try like you're right in the middle of trying

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Speaker 1: to find your spot wherever it is in this industry

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Speaker 1: and in the past, that's what's cool about this. I

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Speaker 1: can do whatever I want. In the past, I've had

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Speaker 1: people who have made it as great songwriters, people who

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Speaker 1: have made it as artists, Like you're just pretty mediocre

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Speaker 1: right now, let's me to be honest. That's that's my

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Speaker 1: middle name. So listen, Brandon is one I've played him

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Speaker 1: on the show before, like he's that good. So, um,

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Speaker 1: Music on Twitter and Instagram. All right, so let me

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Speaker 1: tell you. I want to start with today and kind

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Speaker 1: of work all the way back around because Brandon's an

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Speaker 1: interesting story. Brandon is so good. I said, hey, will

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Speaker 1: with the raging idiots? And he has And I really

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Speaker 1: don't know how good he was until we got on

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Speaker 1: see everybody, so Bebian said Brandon. I'll play a song

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Speaker 1: American way. Here we go up, sad down too freaking

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Speaker 1: weekend him him a seamer. Brandon is also a fantastic

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Speaker 1: guitar player. So I play this, this is that could

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Speaker 1: be all right, welcome back to the music now. I

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Speaker 1: would like to be as honest as possible as of

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Speaker 1: right now, you do not have a record deal. Not okay.

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Speaker 1: So here you are, You're in talent, you're grinding, you're playing,

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Speaker 1: You're like of the rest of Nashville. You're really good,

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Speaker 1: what has that process been like? Like have you played

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Speaker 1: for people like kay Like, Hey'm gonna talk about every

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Speaker 1: you and how and how long ago was? This was?

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Speaker 1: And people are like, oh, bandwagoners, we hate him. I

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Speaker 1: in a hundred and eight years and this, this song

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Speaker 1: his and being so cool. I thought he looked way

425
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 1: and saw me and my brother won the drum line.

426
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 1: We played snare and all that kind of stuff. So

427
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 1: you were a drummer, I was. Yeah. My brother Ryan

428
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: taught me how to play drums, and so did Derek.

429
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 1: Derek was a drummer as well, and so we were

430
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: all on the drum line for sin High School. Go

431
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 1: buffs Um and we would play, we would do the

432
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 1: halftime show, we'd we'd play all the games and all

433
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 1: that kind stuff. And it's West Texas like Big Spring

434
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: Pick Spring millin Odessa and there. I mean we were

435
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 1: two a school, but we seriously had a college side

436
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 1: stadium because football, man, it's everything. And so we would

437
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: play that and then we would go play a show

438
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: either in our town that night or sixty miles away

439
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: like Midland. We play that, we play a show, and

440
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 1: we do at least two or three shows a weekend.

441
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 1: Like my parents, I don't know what they were thinking.

442
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: They were just like oh yeah, like go to school

443
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,479
Speaker 1: and you know, go play Friday, Saturday, Sunday and come

444
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: back you know. Um So that's kind of how I

445
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: kind of cut my teeth in playing music in the

446
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: grind of touring. And then we moved to Denton. Big city.

447
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, big city right now, the Dallas and my

448
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,719
Speaker 1: brother went to North Texas and I tried to go

449
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: to some like little uh community college and tried to

450
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 1: get an audio engineering degree. But we ended up leaving

451
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: Dent and we did the whole Texas music scene. But

452
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 1: we ended up going on the Warp Tour for two

453
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: for three years. Wow, you warped toward it for three years?

454
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, man, it was. It was the coolest,

455
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: most miserable time in my life. Where were you? But

456
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm familiar with the Warp Tour because again my background

457
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: radio has been pop alternative, so I've been to a

458
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 1: bunch of Warp Tour shows. And how I worked about

459
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: works for everyone is like Shallon started like eleven am

460
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: and it was until the end, and that's when like,

461
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: you know, Blank wanted to play at the very end.

462
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: If they decide it's one of their shows, they fly

463
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 1: in and yes, yeah, but but really it's a bunch

464
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: of skateboarders and just bands all day long that you've

465
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: never heard of. So if the show started at eleven

466
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: am and ended it midnight, what hour ship did you

467
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: guys at the first the first year we did this, Uh,

468
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: it's awful. We we seriously played like at at eleven

469
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 1: am with for nobody and so the idea of warped tour.

470
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: You know, uh Haley Haley Williams from Paramore. I think

471
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: she she had like a documentary and she she put

472
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 1: it all out there. But it's so real. You pass

473
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: out ten thousand flyers a day. You're just trying to

474
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: get two people to come to your stage and watch you, like,

475
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 1: just come, like, I know you want to go see

476
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: a follow up boy later, but you know we're playing

477
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: right before him. Uh you should just come, like we'll

478
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: give you a T shirt like it was anything, you know.

479
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: So that was like the end of true music promotion,

480
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: like like giving a flyer to somebody and word of

481
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: mouth and now it's it's awesome with social media, but

482
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 1: that you know that time is no more you don't

483
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: hand out That sucks. It's like, I'm so sad we

484
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: don't have to chart our own milk anymore. Those were

485
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: the days we have grocery manez back when times we're

486
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: simpler and much better. Probably Kinkoes dollars like horrible. But

487
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 1: it really taught me about promotion and and really making

488
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: fans and really the face to face eye contact that

489
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: you make, and and appreciating those people because they're the

490
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: people who are getting you those better slots on that tour,

491
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: or you know, when you come back into that town,

492
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna come see you at that crappy club you're

493
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: playing at. You know, so you do warped toy, you

494
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: with your brothers or in this punk band. So you're like,

495
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 1: all right, this is not for me. So basically we

496
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: went out to l A. I lived out in l

497
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: A for about six months, and we had a development

498
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: deal with with Sony out over there, and they had

499
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 1: other bands like I don't know if you remember a

500
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: band called Forever the Sickest Kids, and it was the

501
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: whole MySpace age. She's a big Mike. Mike did a

502
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: punk podcast for years called the Everyday Destruction Podcast. That's

503
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: all they talked about was punk music. It was terrible musically,

504
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: it was terrible, Like I admired Mike for doing it,

505
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: and I listened to it and I'd be like, hey

506
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: didn't and I went but it was like music, and

507
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: I was like this is awful. Like I'll get in

508
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: Mike's car and it's just that mess of music like

509
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: that you were playing right there, like that that horrible,

510
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 1: awful stuff. Yeah. Yes, so you go to l you're

511
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 1: doing you have a development deal, so we're you know,

512
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: with my base. That was the whole thing. So any

513
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: label that came to you, they were like, yeah. We

514
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 1: were told we had to have at least thirty five

515
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: thousand daily plays on our MySpace and we're like done.

516
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: So we were up to like forty spins every single day,

517
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 1: you know, turning and grinding and getting people to just

518
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 1: come on board and share our make it, make it

519
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: your profile song or whatever. And you know, we would

520
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: play at the Roxy, we play at at the Whiskey

521
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 1: and all those places and other people's l A experiences

522
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: are different, um, but mine was miserable and there was

523
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: no community. There was no support or encourage encouragement from anybody.

524
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: So when we went out and and started doing opening

525
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: shows for fall Out Boy and Sugar Colt and people

526
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: like that. Um, it was that same thing, you know,

527
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 1: Oh you got T two with Fall Boys, Like yeah,

528
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: we played at five thirty in the afternoon when the

529
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 1: doors open for like a hundred people, passed out our

530
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: flyers and played at the club next door for an

531
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: after party, you know, just to try to just capitalize

532
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: on the opportunity and man for us personally, the it

533
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: was just dying and I knew where I wanted to be,

534
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: and I kept making trips to Nashville and writing, and

535
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: you know, starting to get into the co writing thing.

536
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: And you know, I love country music. I love I

537
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: love writing it, I love singing it, and I love

538
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: the fans because they're die hard fans. With rock music,

539
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: it was like flavor of the week, you know. If

540
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: you know, you'd make all these fans, say in Tulsa, Oklahoma,

541
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: and you'd have a good turnout, and you come back

542
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: two months later and nobody cares, you know, with country,

543
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: and this is what I see all the time. It's

544
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: so much more artists driven pop is song driven rock

545
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: is let's just see what happens this month, like and

546
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: that's that's really the difference. Like this, like and pop,

547
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: it's like how good is your song? And country like

548
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: if once you have fans that like that artist, there,

549
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: the country music listener is a loyal person center Like

550
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: if you're a Luke fan and you've been a Luke fan,

551
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: you will always be a Luke fan the rest of

552
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: your life. If he may go to a polk album,

553
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: but dang it, you're gonna download that Luke record. It's

554
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: gonna be the walmart In in all its fans. But yes,

555
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: country music it is. It is about the artists. You

556
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: need that first song. You have to get those songs

557
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: to get you to get people noticed the artist. But

558
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: once they're in on the artist, and I have that

559
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: in the radio world too. It's like I have the

560
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: greatest listeners and I will do the worst segments, the worst,

561
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: terrible segments, and they'll be right there and the ratings

562
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: come in and I'm like, I don't even want people

563
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: were listening. I have no idea, Like we had a

564
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: I looked the last weeks show. They weren't that good.

565
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: Can't believe the ratings that you know, it's it's just

566
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: a culture of the town, the format, the music, And

567
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: so you moved to town because you realize that's kind

568
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: of the the environment that you want to be in.

569
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: And is that the reason? Yeah, the community, I think

570
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: it was the biggest thing, you know, and in the

571
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: rock world uh in l A. And you know, just

572
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: the the whole culture of it was so just dark

573
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: and it was so lonely. You know, it was like

574
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: every man for himself, so cut throat, and here, you

575
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: know it is it is kind of competition, which listen,

576
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: it's a creative industry. There's always a ton of competition

577
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: because there are two slots and there are seven thousand people,

578
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: so it's always competitive. But it's not just music, any

579
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: sort of creative acting, any creative field. It's seven thousand

580
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: people going for two spots. But you're right, as competitive

581
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: as it is, this town is very warm and working together,

582
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: that's it. It's very encouraging, supportive. And you know, I

583
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: always say anytime I invite a friend of mine from

584
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: Texas or somewhere to come visit, half the time they

585
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: end up moving here because they feel the same way,

586
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: even if it's not music related. They're like, I just

587
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: I just love this town. I love the people, I

588
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: love just you know everything about it. When did you

589
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: move to Nashville two thousand nine. Okay, and so you

590
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: move here and you just started playing guitar for people.

591
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: So I would go to writers writers nights and writers

592
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: rounds where, you know, if you don't know what that is,

593
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: there's four people on stage playing songs they write one

594
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: at a time and telling stories about them. And I

595
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: would just go and and want to learn, you know.

596
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: And so I started making friends, started co writing with

597
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: those friends and singing those demos, and so my friends

598
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: with publishing deals would turn those songs into their publishers

599
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: and they'd be like, oh, who's the singing Who is

600
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: this the guy you wrote it with? And they're like yeah.

601
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: And so that's how I kind of, you know, got

602
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: into that um getting a publishing deal and also playing

603
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: guitar for for different people. I still felt like you're

604
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: a better singer than you are anything else, which is crazy,

605
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: thanks because you're an elite singer and I had no idea.

606
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: I thought you were just a really good guitar player.

607
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: And then he started singing, and you're like, oh, here's

608
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: all I'll do it, raging age. I won't let him

609
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: saying until like after the second half of the show

610
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: because then people will just be like, can he sing

611
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: some more like him? So he played and he kills it,

612
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,239
Speaker 1: and then as we get to the second half, I'm like,

613
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: all right, Brandon Europe and then he just crushes it

614
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: like he was. I was watching your YouTube channel, and

615
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: again I don't blow smoke, but I was watching YouTube

616
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: channel and there's a song from Sean Mindeth called Mercy

617
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm taking baby Please and Mercy you seek it easy on,

618
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: and Brandon is doing a cover of it, and I'm like,

619
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: God knew he could sing, but it's so good. I'm saying,

620
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: baby please, ever, mercy on me, take it easy on

621
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: my heart. Even though you don't mean hurt me, you

622
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: keep telling me up, but would you please Percy Mercy?

623
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: Oh my heart? Please, Mercy Mercy, Oh my Heart's just

624
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: it's weird because you're such a good guitar player and

625
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: you're such a good singer. You're like, what do you

626
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: want to be known as? Everybody pigeonholes? Everybody everybody does? Yeah? Right,

627
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: And as you think about that, I'll give you an example.

628
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to the Luke Bryant thing. Nobody

629
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: knows how good of an art like actual musician Luke

630
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: Brian is the general mass thinks he's a guy with

631
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: some good songs and get double stage and he dances,

632
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: puts on a good show. The guy will take a

633
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: guitar or it's like a piano and just crush it

634
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, I get it. Okay, this is

635
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: why he's phenomenal. This is why he gets to do

636
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: what else? This is why he gets to play mckamore

637
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: in the middle of a set because he was so

638
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: good at doing everything at the beginning. So okay, I'm

639
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: pigeonholing you into where Where do you want a pigeon hole? Man?

640
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: That's that's such a crazy question because with everybody, even you,

641
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: there's so many layers to who you are. And the

642
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: more you the more you experience that artists, the more

643
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: you get to know those layers. But you throw seven

644
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: layers and someone a first impression though they don't get

645
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: don't get layers seven at first? What's hilaryery? You won't

646
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: be able to get the first thing. Is it the

647
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: guy that's the fantastic singer or is the guy who's

648
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: the killer guitarist? I would say I would say singer man.

649
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: I mean I was gonna make it be your answer,

650
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: but yeah, like he's holding up a sign right now,

651
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: I'm not, but it's got to be saying gotta be.

652
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: That's your first listening impression. Nobody. I'm sorry, No, nobody

653
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: really knows. Keith Urban plays all those solos, but he

654
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 1: does about that. Nobody cares. Nobody cares like it's amazing.

655
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: Like me as a guitar player, I listened to you know,

656
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,959
Speaker 1: if if Brad Pays it comes on, or Keith Urban

657
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: or you know any of those people, when that solo comes,

658
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, it's so good. Nerds like it,

659
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 1: like it like guys. But most people, they just want

660
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: to hear a good song. They want to hear Keith

661
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: Urban sing. You know what I'm saying. They want to

662
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: hear that song. That's that's what they know, that's what

663
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: they identify with. And you know, if I'm up on

664
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: stage playing and I go into a solo, it's cool.

665
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: But even with guys like Keith Urban, when they go

666
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 1: into a solo, the people start looking side to side

667
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: or start looking at their phone because the singing aspect

668
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: has to be there. That's the first thing that hits

669
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: their ears and that's all they know. Listen. I'm not

670
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: saying that I've watched, but I've watched everybody solos for

671
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: four hours. It's amazing, like that dude, And I don't know.

672
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: You may hear this after the c m A is

673
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: like he may want entering. I don't know what it's

674
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: gonna but that's one of the most that's it's such

675
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: a fantastic live artist. But that's what you can do too, Like,

676
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: once you get live, you can do all your stuff.

677
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: But people don't. Most people don't get to see people live.

678
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: Like nine percent people don't get to see Keith Urban live.

679
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: They just hear what's on the radio and become a fan.

680
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: I don't get to see a lot of people alive

681
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: because of my job. I get to see him in

682
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: the studio, but I don't. I saw Keith Urban i

683
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: Alradio Music Festival for the first time play a full show.

684
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 1: It is a year ago blown away and he played

685
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: it in my studio seven times. But also a lot

686
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: of people don't get to experience that side of it too,

687
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: So that's oh no, But you get to experience what

688
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: the studio stuff isn't it's it's ridiculous. Sometimes I have

689
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: to thought myself right in the NATS because I'm like

690
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: taking the moment. Like when Garth Brooks comes in and

691
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: play songs, it's ridiculous and I can touch him and

692
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,959
Speaker 1: he tells me to stop. Yeah yeah, here's like stop

693
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: touch So okay, here's listen to this. Here's uh justin

694
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 1: timber like cover of Drink You Away tracka Try track,

695
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: all these all the sound me baby, that doesn't make

696
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: a medicine. Now as you're hearing these cover I'm gonna

697
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 1: remind you that you can go and you can download,

698
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: you can stream whatever. Brandon has two songs that are

699
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 1: up now. I mean I can wait. He smoked down

700
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: to freaking Weaken come from American Way, lack Boy, come on,

701
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: and that can be us. That can be I like

702
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: to you do the covers though, because you know what,

703
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: that's how you get attention. Some people are so against it,

704
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: and I respect that because that's their thing and everybody

705
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: should have the right to what they want to be

706
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: as an artist. And there are artists who are like,

707
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: you know what, the covers aren't for me, and I'm like, cool,

708
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be a little harder road, and I'm

709
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: glad you have that. But what you do is people

710
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: people google as they BackRub, you know, the backup, different

711
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: artists and the backgroup, like covers of songs, and then

712
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: they may watch ten just in term of like they're like,

713
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: holy crap, who's Brandon ray dude? Which leads to your

714
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: music day, that's it man, And and during a live

715
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: show the same thing. Some some artists are like, no,

716
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna open, I'm gonna do my songs, and

717
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: that's totally cool. But when you're the opening slot in

718
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: front of whoever, in front of John Party, Get More Whoever,

719
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: and those people have no idea who you are, you've

720
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: got to find a way to identify with them to

721
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: to then introduce your own stuff that you're so right on.

722
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: I tell people all the time, never be ashamed to

723
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: cover because put your own spin on it. People just

724
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: want to hear stuff they know and like, and if

725
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: you're playing neither, and most times they don't like new

726
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: music right until because that it needs to be something

727
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: they know or just freaking phenomenal. And it's hard for

728
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: something to be phenomenal that you've never heard before. It

729
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,919
Speaker 1: takes a few times, and so you can nail them

730
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: with a cover and you get a little bit of credit.

731
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: So look at me, are you do something yourself? Only

732
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 1: a couple of those? All right? Cool? That's a bad

733
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: cool now playing Momo number five, dump um. One of

734
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: my favorite things that Brandon does is Donald Trump oppression

735
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: is one of the best I've ever heard of, like

736
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: in my life, because he'll send me messages and wrong,

737
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: I can't I don't do it. But we were on

738
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: the did you watch the last one, the sketch three

739
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: where he's like, I talked to the Mexican President, Mr

740
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: wacom Day. I didn't even see that. You haven't seen

741
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: that one? Okay, okay, we'll be talking wrong. Give us

742
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: give us all Donald Trump here, so at sound check

743
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: at I believe the Arkansas Show. I don't know if

744
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 1: you notice, but I was like, my microphone it's broken.

745
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: Obama broke it, Hilary stole it. I win. So, man,

746
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: it's microphone is broken. Can we get him a new one?

747
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: How does this work? Okay? Mr Trump? Test check? It's wrong,

748
00:39:53,800 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: It's all. I am the best singer on the planet Earth.

749
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 1: What what would you say to the people that don't

750
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: agree with that, Mr Trump. Listen, I respect microphones more

751
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: than anyone anyone on the earth. I'm bickly supportive of microphones.

752
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: You're big supportively, Okay. I mean we get on the

753
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: bus and we laugh so much like and I think

754
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: a key and it's just gonna sound stupid, but you

755
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: said it earlier, and I tell I was doing a

756
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: show called American Supergroup. Okay. So it's a show where

757
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: they're putting a band together and the hosts are Jennifer

758
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: Nettles not hosted judge Jennifer Nettles Allow Black Um, who

759
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: who have become buds with, but he's the voice on

760
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: Wake Me Up when thing dude is so good. It's

761
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: Allow Black, it's l King. Yeah. You know, she has

762
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: xs and os and she's on different for girls with

763
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: dirks and so they're the the judge. I went into

764
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: mentor the country band and they're like, hey, tell us,

765
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: how to you know do um be a band? And

766
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: and I'm like, listen, you're all good or you wouldn't

767
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: be here, but let me give you a big tip.

768
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:18,479
Speaker 1: Be a great hang. Those four letters are everything. If

769
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: people want you around, they have you around more. And

770
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: when you're around more, you get shots to do more things.

771
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: And Brandon's a great let hang sorry. And I think

772
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: that's also the environment of you know, of what we

773
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,479
Speaker 1: try to do, the raging, it's only bring people around

774
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: them are great hangs from Nikita Natalie stove All. I mean,

775
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: I just today I got you know, lindsay El's now

776
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: my girlfriend. You are You're now You're now into that

777
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: special friends. But I mean they're just such fun people

778
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: that I was like, let's another show. I'll have a

779
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: back again. There's so m fun to hang around with.

780
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: Do congrats By the way, I have a girlfriend. There's

781
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: no congratulations. You know what shows me how big of

782
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: a loser I am. It's when I'm getting a thousand

783
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: congrats for getting a girlfriend, something most people do all

784
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 1: the time. Hey dude, congrats, congrats on driving to work today.

785
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: Wait wait, most people drive to work every day. Why

786
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: are you congratulating me on driving to work today? Like

787
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: the accomplishment? Yeah, it was a sweet that was like,

788
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: you know what, Bobby, It showed me that even normal

789
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: guys can get hot girls if normal guys have their

790
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 1: own radio showed New York Times best seller and You're

791
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 1: a Band and I was like, that's funny. That's pretty funny.

792
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: That's funny. Pretty great. So okay, so here you are now,

793
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: like what's the goal as you sit right here beside me,

794
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: like like short term and long term? Short term is uh?

795
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: I just got married about a year ago. You just

796
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: had anniversary a few weeks ago, and who knew me

797
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: and who? And I don't know any dates And I

798
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: don't care. I don't don't care about my stuff. Dude,

799
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: when you showed up to my house, I was so nice. Yeah,

800
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: I was in a cupid outfit. It was it was

801
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: he was wearing a toga and nothing else. Year. Yeah,

802
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: and it's it's just been, it's been awesome, and you know,

803
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: being gone, you know, sometimes she gets to go with me.

804
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: She she sings backgrounds uh in the band and everything

805
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: and um, you know. Sometimes people set goals like I

806
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: want to buy, you know, the biggest house I can find.

807
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: I want to buy a car. I want to do

808
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: all this stuff honestly, like I want I want to

809
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: be able to get to a point where my wife

810
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: can quit her job. She she manages and bartens and

811
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: works her butt off. Can I say something, oh, like

812
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: a little bit I wasn't expecting the answer. I was like,

813
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: I'm let a dealt the fact that you said that,

814
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: and it came to you so instinction like that. Your

815
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: visceral reaction was I'd like to get my wife to

816
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: a place where she can quit her job and just, dude,

817
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: you are a good dude Like I was on the

818
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: I was that I was a douce this whole time.

819
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: That's the hair I know. No, man, I whatever capacity

820
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: uh that that my music can reach, I'll always be

821
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: thankful for the fact that it's come this far. The

822
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 1: fact that I'm sitting here with you is like, it's

823
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: amazing to cool. Yeah, I'm really cool with No, you're like,

824
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: and Mike D's over here looking all cool. You're you're

825
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: right now. Remember this moment. I get to take a

826
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: picture of this and turn the lights on, so he

827
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: remember this. This is probably the peak of his lap

828
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: being on the Bobby Cats actually doing it. Actually, we

829
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: take a picture anyway and put put it online. Do

830
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: we pose or what? No? No, no, we just continue

831
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: doing this and it gets posted. Alright, So are you

832
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: sucking in? I have to suck in. I didn't you

833
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: know a little too many doughnuts this week, no uh whatever,

834
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: Like I said, whatever capacity the music goes to. I'm

835
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: so thankful for um being out with you guys, you

836
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 1: and Eddie. You and Eddie have taught me a lot

837
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: about that. Don't be yes here being so sincere and

838
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: I incorporate this into my life show now, um that

839
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: you know, my attitude and and the the music that

840
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: I make, I really think caters to the to the

841
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: blue collar, the hard worker. You know, my dad was

842
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: uh he worked thirt or five years for the union

843
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: Pacific Railroad, worked his butt off, putting food on the table.

844
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: My mom worked and you know, just just him being

845
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: gone all the all that time. And you know I

846
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: saw that and we were dirt poor, like we we

847
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: didn't have anything. And so having that example growing up,

848
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: and you know, going and playing for those crowds. You know,

849
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 1: I'm going to Iowa and Nebraska, Minnesota and all those

850
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: regions where people work sixty hours a week. They just

851
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 1: want to get off work, go to go to a show,

852
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: grab a beer or whatever with their with their friends

853
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: or their why and just chill and listen to some music.

854
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: And if we can be that escape for those people,

855
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: that's incredible. And what I was saying about you guys,

856
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: is if at this, at this event that I'm playing,

857
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: wherever it is, if one person leaves with a smile

858
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: on their face, then I've done my job and I've

859
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: done what I'm here to do. I just want to

860
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: make people happy. I want them to forget about their

861
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: problems and their worries for forty five minutes. You know,

862
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: whatever has been you know, getting them down during the week, whatever,

863
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: you know, whatever problem they have, if they can just

864
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: escape that for forty five minutes, and that's that. That's

865
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: what we're here for, is to give that entertainment, to

866
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: give that that care and that just attention to those

867
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: people to where they can just have a great time

868
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: for a little bit and you know, they might have

869
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: to go back and do what they do, but at

870
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: least they had that. Do you still take shows and

871
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: lose money? Definitely a lot artists that you wouldn't think.

872
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: Here's the thing too about artists, is that even the

873
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: ones that because people hear a song and they're like, oh,

874
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: for sure, millionaires Like I have artists friends who have

875
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: had one, two, three songs and they're like, dude, I'm

876
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: struggling just because you get a song on the radio

877
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're rich. And then I have friends that

878
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: they go in they're like, I need to play this show.

879
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: I needed I needed to look it's I need to

880
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: play well. So I got to hire a band and

881
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: they're paying a thousand bucks. But the band's gonna cost

882
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: me eight hundred bucks and we have to drive. You

883
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 1: have to fly, so you lose money on shows. But

884
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 1: but it's an investment. It is it has to be.

885
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: And if and if you're if you're worried about losing money,

886
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be doing this if that's your only thing.

887
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: If that's your only thing is financial gain, then you

888
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: might want to stop. And that's let me tell you

889
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: a funny story. And that's for any creative industry. Like

890
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: if you're getting into it for money, get out. I

891
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: went to a college and spoke once and I went

892
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: and I said, okay, I know, I just want to

893
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: be honest. The only thing I have his mo authenticity.

894
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: That's it. I'm not super talented in any other way.

895
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: So I said, okay, I'm gonna just be honest with

896
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: you guys. Like if you're here now and you're studying

897
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: radio in college, get out like change your major. I went.

898
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: I was at radio class I was speaking to so

899
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: the college wasn't excited that I was telling all of

900
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: their so they banned me from speaking there. Yeah remember

901
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: that might yeah and so. But the thing I would

902
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: tell them is, you know, listen, you don't you if

903
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna be a music engineer, you're learning that. But

904
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 1: you don't go to college to be uh unless it's

905
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: like Juilliard and you can get in, you know, you know,

906
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: you don't go to you know, the University of North

907
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 1: Texas to be a rock star. You just get out

908
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,439
Speaker 1: and start rock starring it. And so the same way

909
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: with you know, the radio or acting or you know so.

910
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: And also what I say is if there's any money

911
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: in your mind, don't you can't there's none in it.

912
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: Even in this I've been lucky. Frankly speaking, I'm one

913
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: of the one percent that its just and a lot work, ethic,

914
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: some luck and having great people around me. That's that's

915
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: the big Those three things are the biggest things. Like

916
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: you've got to show up, don't be a douche, and

917
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 1: surround yourself with got so key people with the same

918
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: goals as you, and that that you work so well

919
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: together with that that shows with you. I mean you

920
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: have the same team as you did in Austin. How

921
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 1: how many years ago was that? I mean I've had

922
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: Amy for eleven years, Lunchbox for twelve years, Eddie was

923
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: my TV producer for ten. They joined the radio show.

924
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: Mike d was an intern, Ray was an intern. Morgan

925
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: was an intern. Like, I just do things on my

926
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: people because I need good people around me. I need

927
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: people I trust. I didn't do this. I worked. Let's see,

928
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: I started about a seventeen so I worked eight years

929
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: making minimum wage, eight years working minimum wage and loved

930
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: it every freaking minute of it, and would do it

931
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: again and would have kept doing it like I would have.

932
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: I would have just done radio and survived or gotten

933
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: a second job because I loved it so much. And

934
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 1: that to people like, Okay, I want to radio, I

935
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: want to do music, the first thing I say is

936
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: would you do it for free? Would you do it

937
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 1: having to have another job? And if answers yes, freaking

938
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: go for it. It's the answers No, it's just not

939
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: for you. Get out because not a watch time White,

940
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: You're alwatche Time. We're always what you're gonna waste whatever

941
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: you can do to get to this other place in

942
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: another lane. That's it. So for me, man, Uh, I

943
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: was out playing for Brett Eldredge. It was incredible that guy. Yeah,

944
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 1: that guy's are you playing lead? I was playing lead,

945
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: switching off with Greg this guy. No, but you're seeing

946
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 1: harmonies and stuff to do. Yeah with Brett, which Brett

947
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: is an incredible singer. I mean, spot on every single time.

948
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 1: And uh, we got to do the Taylor Swift tour,

949
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: which was incredible, you know. And how was it dating Taylor?

950
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: It was It was weird, you know. When I got pregnant,

951
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: it was crazy. Um didn't make the news though, I

952
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, that's weird. But uh, in the middle

953
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: of all that, you know, I was like inside, I

954
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: was like, okay, like this is great. This is really

955
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: cool being able to be out here and play guitar.

956
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: But this is not why I moved here. And a

957
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: good friend of mine, Set England, who runs Big Loloud

958
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: Shirt Publishing. He's also Florida Georgia Lions manager. Um, I

959
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: went and played some songs for him, you know, and

960
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: I was, you know, I just wanted some advice and

961
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: he was like, dude, what are you doing playing for

962
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: other people? You need to quit today. I was like, well, dude,

963
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 1: we're about to go on the Keith Urban Tour, like

964
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: we were like opening, like it's it's big, you know.

965
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: And so I made the decision to quit. And a

966
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: couple of weeks later I did a show like on

967
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: a second not a couple of weeks later you make

968
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: that decision to quit, do you have to go to

969
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: Brett and say, hey, dude, And how does he react

970
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: to it? Yeah, So I kind of came into the

971
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: whole thing. I let him know, you know, hey, I

972
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: have a publishing deal. Um, I'm doing the artist thing. Uh,

973
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: this is my ultimate goal. I can be here for

974
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: however long you need me to, but I just want

975
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: you to know that I have an exit plan. And

976
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: he's like, of course, man, He's like, I just love

977
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: having you around. You know, we we kill it together.

978
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: So hang, hang hang um, and so they knew and

979
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: and it was it was such a great understanding, you know.

980
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: And then so I I did this show, my solo show,

981
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: and Seth and and the f GL guys came out

982
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: and Um after the show says like, hey, man, let's

983
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: let's talk real quick. I was like, oh, Seth, you

984
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: know he's gonna tell me enjoyed it, you know. And

985
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: he goes, hey, man, you wanta you wanna play guitar

986
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: for f g L. I was like, you just told

987
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: me to quit. I was like, I'm so confused right now, man,

988
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: Like what is happening like? And he goes listen, like

989
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: they saw your performance, they dug it, and they're like

990
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: they need a guitar player. So I'm just passing along

991
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: the word. And so I was like, oh, man, that's

992
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: amazing like that, that's such a great opportunity. Cruiz had

993
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: went number one and all that stuff, and um, I

994
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: really took a lot of time to think about it.

995
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: That's not something you just take lightly. And I came

996
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: back to Seth and I said, man, your original advice

997
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: to me spoke to me so much that that's what

998
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. Like I hope you guys find you

999
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be fine, You'll find a guitar player,

1000
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: but this is what I have to do. And um

1001
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: that was a defining moment for me. And I still

1002
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: have that same drive times ten because it's not like

1003
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: I have to make this happen, I have to make

1004
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: the money and blah blah blah. No, it's because it's

1005
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: running through my veins. It's what I want to do.

1006
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 1: I'm about to get in a van and drive fourteen

1007
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: hours to Iowa and play a show tomorrow night, and

1008
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 1: play four more shows this weekend. I will probably break even,

1009
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: maybe lose a little bit of money. Um, but the

1010
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: opportunity is a great opportunity. Is a lot of money

1011
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: talked to about. But I love it, and I don't

1012
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: love it as a hobby. I love it because it's

1013
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: the only thing that I want to do and the

1014
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: only thing that I can do. So, okay, you're out playing,

1015
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: Like are you trying to make music? I like the

1016
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: process of making music so you can get a record deal?

1017
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: Like what what? What is that? Like? How do you

1018
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: do it? What do you what do you do? What

1019
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: do you do? I don't know. Yeah, it's it's different

1020
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 1: for everybody. Everybody has a different path. Um. Some people

1021
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: it's who they know. Some people it's how they're already

1022
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 1: connected or whatever. And I think it is a big

1023
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: mixture of everything. But it's listening to those people that

1024
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 1: are closest to you, and that are putting their lives

1025
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: out on the line for you and sticking their neck

1026
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: out for you, and that advice and that support and

1027
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: encouragement is everything in the process. And so when you're

1028
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: in the riding room, you've got to think about You've

1029
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: got to always be yourself and you know you can't

1030
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: fake real. And so whenever I go into the riding room,

1031
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: whenever I get on stage, I'm gonna be me. I'll

1032
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,479
Speaker 1: be goofy, I'll cry, I'll say some dumb stuff, but

1033
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm always gonna be me and be authentic. Like you said,

1034
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: do you still put your penis out? Do I do what?

1035
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: Put your penis out? On stage? I mean you have

1036
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: to do what to do? Like not from Martinez shows,

1037
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: but for like hip shows. Yeah, I mean America. Would

1038
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: you write American Way with So this is the funny thing.

1039
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: I didn't write American Way? What Kip? More so you

1040
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: and yours? It's like so I never I write basically

1041
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: every day and I love it and it's and it's

1042
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: what I do. Um. But Nick Brophy, who I started

1043
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: working with production and all that kind of stuff. Nick

1044
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 1: also mixes and was his Kip and he's like dude,

1045
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: you gotta check out this song, like Kip didn't put

1046
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: on his record. I wrote it with Kip and Brett James,

1047
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: who Brett James is a songwriting hero of mine. And

1048
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: I heard it. I was like, dude, that's a cool

1049
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: song man. And so when I left there, I was

1050
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: like whatever. For a week, I was like, no, no,

1051
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: day it was lea bo just like you were doing

1052
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: was Leo Leo we sleep one more. That's not how

1053
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: it goes. That's always seeing it um. But I was

1054
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Speaker 1: just I just kept thinking about I was like, listen,

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Speaker 1: you know that is this is That is the type

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Speaker 1: of song that I that I want to write and

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Speaker 1: I want to perform. So I probably tried to write

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00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: that song five or six times and it didn't work.

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Speaker 1: It was never the same as that, And so I

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Speaker 1: asked Nick. I was like, hey, man, like, would it

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Speaker 1: be cool if I just put my vocal on it

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Speaker 1: and maybe just start playing it out just see how

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Speaker 1: people react to it? Was of course, and Kip was

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00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: cool with it, and so I did that and the

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00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: reaction was incredible, and so I kind of it kind

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Speaker 1: of taught me to step away from myself for a second.

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00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: Is that hard to take somebody's song. That song and

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00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: so you I thought you wrote it. And I interview

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Speaker 1: some people I'm careful about going, hey, I know you

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00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: wrote this song. I'm always like, hey, this song that

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00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: you sing and ask that song and so you I

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00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: thought you wrote I don't think twice about it. Well,

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Speaker 1: thanks man, I mean, and that that was the goal

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Speaker 1: because it became so undeniable to me that I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: I I have to do something with this song, you know,

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Speaker 1: And so I did, and here we are, So what

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Speaker 1: about this other one here? That could be us? That

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00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: could be us? Um right, this one? Thank you? I

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00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: wrote it with a gut named Bobby's got a radio show.

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Speaker 1: This song is really good. This is that this song

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Speaker 1: you're good like? Thanks man. This is like this reminds

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00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: me of like new age country Jack and Day and

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00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: the first one this is this is like a new

1084
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: age Jack and Diante. Man. This that could be us.

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00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: This and like this it feels a little bit in

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00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: the current situation now that I have a girlfriend, I'm like,

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00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: it makes you want to go get some flowers, maybe

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00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: watch a rom com. It's great that we have like

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00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: three microphones here, Mr Trump, what kind of music do

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00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: you listen to? You know, I tried to listen to

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00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: what the world loves? Yeah? What what does the world love? Like?

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00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: I mean that's a pretty vague statement, Mr Trump, Like

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00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: you run for president, Like, I'm curious what kind of

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00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: music in your iPhone? Mr? Trump? What do you listen to? Girls?

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00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: A lot of spice girls. Yeah, and your favorite spice

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00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: girl would be which one? Um? Brandon Ray has been

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00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: here with us, do good luck. I think you're at

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00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: that place where it's like you're finding yourself right now.

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00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: You're grinding and you're finding and I just see how

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Speaker 1: good you are. And I'm anxious to kind see where

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00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: you land because it's cool because you're really freaking good.

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00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: Appreciate you're really good. And if you ever come out.

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00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: Brandon's playing with us. I'm trying to think. It's hard

1104
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 1: to get Brandon because he's all over the place. I

1105
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: know you're doing Albuquerque, Albuquerque, which sold down like three seconds.

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00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna like expand the theater. I mean, I'm telling you,

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00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: Albuquerque's nuts. We're gonna have to breakdown some walls or something. Um,

1108
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: you just kick up. Let's just turned out to the festival.

1109
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: And then we're playing Vegas again. So if you're in

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00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: either one of those places, or go to Brandon Ray

1111
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: that's Twitter at Brandon Ray Music and go watch them

1112
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: for yourself. But I'm just saying, like, dudes, for real,

1113
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: I mean, anybody that things this song, let's go cubs

1114
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: like I'm a cut fan and I'm a little insult

1115
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: you should be how bad that is? I need it?

1116
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: Actually did that bad at Brandon Ray Music at Brandon

1117
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: Ray Music. Dude, good luck. I hope it goes great.

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Speaker 1: You have a good trip, nice little road trip ahead

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00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: of thanks man. We're taking the bus van van. Did

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01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: you see my text? I'm in the creepy van outside.

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Speaker 1: Hey gut her ear Ladies like, I'm so sorry to

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01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: me Early, I'm like, you're here, Early, I have an erection.

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Speaker 1: Early say, I don't even need a picture. That's um.

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Speaker 1: Thank you and good luck, my friend, good luck, Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much? All right, Brandon Ray Music on Twitter

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Speaker 1: and Instagram. Also thanks to Mr Trump for stopping by.

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01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: I think you you know, you've exceeded everyone's expectations. And

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Speaker 1: when people hear this in a few weeks, maybe your president.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I mean, I mean, okay, that's cool. Alright,

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01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna go um. Yeah, you know, speaking here just today,

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Speaker 1: I'm not full of crap. I did um. First of all,

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01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: I played Brandon step on the radio, so that just

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01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: tells you already. I think he's good. I don't just

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01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: bring people on here. I don't think it's good. I

1135
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: was driving down the I was heading to Georgia with

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Speaker 1: my band and it was seven thirty eight in the morning.

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01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: We had it up and we were just like flipping

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01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: out because like the feeling of hearing your song on

1139
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: the radio for the first time or anytime is surreal,

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01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: and the fact that you did that, I can't I

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01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: can't thank you enough. Well, even like I've played covers

1142
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: of yours on the air, and then I did I think, well,

1143
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, these are the five artists that you

1144
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: don't know yet but you need to know. And it

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01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: was you and Ryan be for a Walker, heyes, and

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Speaker 1: Caitlin Smith and Cody Johnson. Oh yeah, Cody Johnson. E's

1147
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: from Texas. Ryan is to ryan'son a deer for the

1148
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: monent about Ryan Bieber. So where the gym working out? Right?

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01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: Ryan and I both are And so Ryan lived in

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Speaker 1: Austin when I did. We moved here at the same time,

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01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: and so we're you know, whenever he goes hey, I'm like, yeah,

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01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 1: what's up. He goes, are you doing? I'm like, good,

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01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: how are you doing? There's good. I don't put it

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01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: together yet that it's Ryan because he's gonna work out

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01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: closed and I had it and it's like, hey, I

1156
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 1: want I really appreciate you. I still don't know who

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01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: it is. I don't even know that it's an artist.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I appreciate you too, man, you go, buddy,

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01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: I appreciate your spirit of working out as well my

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01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: workout friend Champ. And so his trainer was like this

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01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: Brian Biever, and I was like, dude, I'm such a

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01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 1: yours and like, we want to get Ryan up here too,

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01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: and he's you know, and if you're listening, check out

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bieber that album that you are rated, our Little

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01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: Exit Prescription. It's phenomenal. Every song I was I was

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01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: signed with Ryan at a small publishing company. He just

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01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: left there, but we were on that uh in that

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01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: company for two years and all of those songs he wrote,

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01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: you know to three years ago, and so I would

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01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: hear the work tapes, you know the song if I

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01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: had a Horse and all these kinds I had. I

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01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: have the acoustic work tapes and I play him all

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01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 1: the time. And the fact that he came out with

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01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: a record like that, that just is incredible. Um He's

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01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: he's you gotta check him out. Check out Ryan, check

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Speaker 1: out Brandon Ray. Just to leave you on a little

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01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: song called American Way all week in a slop sag

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Speaker 1: Town to freaking weekend, come phoning, eam him and part

1179
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 1: of y'all that bay baby at that the American Way. Now,

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01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you bleave. I want to see you

1181
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: put your hands off. Just got a black guy from

1182
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: a scuffle with Hank. I'm gonna we're gonna go now

1183
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: because the cups started playing. Just now right, we gonna

1184
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: go on. It's Game two. That's the theme song man,

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01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: and that's the rap. Episode sixteen with Brandon Ray at

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01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: Brandon Rey Music, Thank you ol see episode seven teable

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Speaker 1: Safe Care. By the way,