WEBVTT - NWSL Season Preview with Jill Loyden 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:02.840 Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we had 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:05.720 fun kicking it in New York at the Wiser Symposium 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:09.920 through wise moderating panels with and for badass women. 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:11.400 It's Wednesday, March. 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:13.400 Nineteenth, and on today's show will be skipping the need 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:16.280 to Know and heading straight into my conversation with former 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:19.639 US women's national team and pro soccer player Jill Lloyden, 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:23.160 now an NWSL analyst and the founder and CEO. 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:24.320 Of The Keeper Institute. 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:28.160 We chatted about her quote unquote goalieck, how the keeper 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:30.520 position and footy as a whole has evolved since her 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:33.640 playing days, and we do a good old NWSL preview. 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:36.360 She breaks down the league club by club, what she's 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:39.040 watching for, and the strengths and weaknesses of each team. 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:42.239 You will be so informed and ready to watch this 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:44.080 season after you listen to this interview. 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:46.519 She was fantastic, it's all coming up right after this 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:57.840 joining US now. 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:02.000 She's an NWSL analyst, CEO of the Keeper Institute who 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:03.840 works with some of the keepers for the US women's 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:06.640 national team, and a former pro soccer player who earned 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:09.160 ten caps with the US women's national team herself and 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:12.360 played for clubs including sky Blue FC, Magic Jack and 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:13.560 the Chicago Red Stars. 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:18.120 A Villanova Wildcat. She's a keeper. It's Jill Lloyden. What's up, Jill? 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:21.960 Thanks for having me. I'm super pumped to chat all things. 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:22.400 End of yours. 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:25.319 Oh, I'm so excited to have you before we break 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:26.640 down this season and all the teams. 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:27.679 The most important question. 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:30.679 First, do people who say goaltender give you the ick? 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:31.440 Yes? 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:34.520 I hate goalie and I hate goaltender. We're goalkeepers. 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:36.440 We're keepers, and that's it. 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:40.000 The British say goalie because they don't have hockey, but 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:42.679 we have hockey here, so I prefer goalkeeper or keeper. 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:46.120 Okay. I have learned to say keeper, not tender, but 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:48.040 I am guilty of just sometimes saying goalie. 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:48.840 But I'll stop now. 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:52.120 Okay, that's if you say in a British accent. I 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:53.600 think it'll it's okay. 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:55.400 Can you can you do that for me? 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:59.360 Just goalate? Goallee, yeah, yeah, golet something like that. Okay, 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.440 all right, okay, tell us about the Keeper Institute. 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:04.120 When did you know that you wanted to create a 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:05.880 training school and how does it work? 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:06.440 Yeah? 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:08.600 So when I was growing up, I didn't have access 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:09.720 to great goalkeeper coaching. 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:10.799 I'm from South Jersey. 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:13.560 All the great goalkeeper coaching was in North Jersey, and 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:15.640 so I didn't have my first goalkeeper coach till I 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:18.600 was in college, and I had someone who educated me 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:21.520 and inspired me, gave me the tools to become the 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.000 best goalkeeper I could in college, became an All American 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:26.760 and got drafted to play in the league after that, 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.880 and I always attributed my success back to that teacher. 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.840 And so when I was still playing, I knew that 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.560 I was fulfilled by playing soccer, but I wanted to 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:38.560 give back to the next generation to help them achieve 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.639 their goals and do crazy more important things and I 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:44.400 would ever do as a soccer player. So when I 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:46.400 was still playing, I started the Keeper Institute because I 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:48.799 knew when I was done, I would transition into that 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:50.560 and I wanted to have it already set up so 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:53.160 that I could just start coaching right away. And yeah, 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:56.400 we've been in business for twelve years. We have our 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:58.200 own indoor facility, which is the only one in the 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:01.720 country for goalkeepers work with kids eight to pro and 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:02.720 everywhere in between. 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:06.680 That's wild and what a cool thing for the youngsters. 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:08.679 I'm sure they're not getting the same training at the 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:10.960 same time, but just to be in the facility and 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:13.520 to have that connection to the next level and see 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:17.240 what the possibilities are. Let's talk about this era of 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:21.320 the NWSL. You're an analyst, you're working with players currently playing. 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:23.560 When you compare it to the one that you competed 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:28.239 in and the precursor leagues you competed in, what stands 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:29.960 out to you the most as different. 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:34.520 The quality of these women is just so much higher. 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:37.440 And I think the future of football really is in 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:41.800 the flexibility of adapting to whatever the opponent is doing. 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:43.360 Right, and not. 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:47.560 Only collectively as a group, but individually. The functions of 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:51.280 positions have changed so much, and so for example, just 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.840 take the goalkeeper position. We used to be shot stoppers 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.560 and that's it. We just defend the goal as best 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:58.560 you can and lump it up the field as far. 0:03:58.440 --> 0:03:59.600 Away from the goal as possible. 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:04.520 That's the I lived in, right, But yeah, exactly when 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.320 in doubt kick it out. But now the game has 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:10.720 changed so much because the functions of the position have evolved, 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:14.160 and not only the goalkeeper has adapted to becoming like 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:18.000 a sweeper like you know, another center back, but now 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:20.919 having the capabilities of an in possession, almost like a 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.440 holding midfielder. So like we saw this weekend, Manny McGlenn 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:25.760 had an assist in a game. 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:28.320 Because of her abilities to be brave. 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:32.080 Come off her line and playmake and so because the 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.920 game is continuing to evolve, players are starting to function 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:38.599 in different capacities and become more well rounded, which just 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:41.599 gives so much more flexibility to the teams and it 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:43.960 makes it way more fun to watch because you're like, well, 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:45.680 how is Kansas City are going to play this weekend? 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:47.080 They're going to build in a three, They're going to 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.400 build in a four. How are they going to circumvent 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:51.560 this press and get the ball to their playmakers higher 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:52.040 up the field. 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:54.240 So it makes it more fun and more entertaining. 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:56.960 Yeah, I'm still learning a lot of the like high 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:00.880 level strategy of footy of soccer because I played, But 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:03.200 I remember hearing someone say that for a long stretch there, 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.520 it felt like the NWSL was just like, we're going 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:08.440 to play our style regardless of who we're facing, which 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:10.560 was very different from watching the US women's national team 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.000 that would adjust based on whether the other team was 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:15.479 giving them a lot of space or playing defensively and 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:17.640 waiting for them to make an error. Does it feel 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:21.080 like that's changing in the NWSL by necessity? Like, do 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.240 teams feel like the only way to thrive is to 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:24.320 be more flexible. 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.039 I think the best teams in our league are the 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:30.680 most flexible and the most adaptable and give their players 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:31.760 the most autonomy. 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:33.880 So it's not you have to do these things. 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:37.000 It's well, if the opponent does this, here are principles 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:38.640 that are laid out, and you have choice. 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.560 You can do this or you can do this. But 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:42.000 there are. 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:43.640 Teams in our league too, they just don't have the 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.120 quality players, so they have to rely on playing the 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:51.520 same style each week, which is really forced into by necessity. 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.120 But the teams that have quality, who have really invested 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:58.159 in their rosters and bringing players in that are wildly talented, 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:01.719 they have the ability to play or flexible, unpredictable manner. 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:04.599 What would you like to still see the league do 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.159 or the teams do to up the level of play 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:09.920 or play or comfort or professionalism. 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:13.159 I think, you know, we're still I think we have 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:16.240 to remember we're one of the best leagues in the world, 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:18.839 but we're still in the infant stages. Of this league, 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:22.479 I mean eleven or twelve seasons now, and so we 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.120 still have a long way to go. But I'm really 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:29.039 looking forward into academies underneath of the top teams. Right 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:31.840 just being a goalkeeper who was under the best that's 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.000 ever played in Hope solo, I didn't get that many 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:37.839 caps because I was behind the world's best, Whereas like now, 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:41.080 if we had academies underneath, then your second or third 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:43.279 choice goalkeeper can go get some games on the weekend 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:46.560 and then come back up and be rostered for the 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.000 senior level games, and then that's a way that you 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:54.280 can predictably develop talent over time to transition to your 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:56.880 top team, which I think if we had those academies 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:00.080 ultimately overall our country and our national teams would be 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:00.599 better as well. 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:02.880 But it's step by step. 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:07.159 Yeah, yeah, that's a big conversation. I'd love to have 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.320 you back to talk about the intricacies of the academy 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.800 system everything else, but we have to do an NWSL 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:14.040 season preview because we kind of did our own last 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.160 week ahead of our interview with another keeper listener, but 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.120 was pretty short, and we need a pro in here 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.160 to give us a true breakdown of what to watch 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:23.600 for this season, and you are the best of the best, 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.800 So I want to go team by team and for 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:27.720 each club, I'll keep it pretty broad. I just want 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:31.720 to see your ws W what you're watching for, and 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:35.920 then strengths and weaknesses. So let's start with the defending champion, 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:38.360 Orlando Pride first. What are you most watching for with 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:38.840 this team? 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:41.880 Yeah, I'm looking for some of the young talent that 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.160 seb Hines has brought in because he's had this great 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:48.760 track record of being able to develop talent into becoming 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:52.080 impact players, not just role players that you just well, 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:54.000 we don't really have anybody else for right wings, We're 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.360 gonna put in Ali Watt. No, he is actually getting 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.440 this ceiling out of her every single game. So I'm 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:02.440 really looking forward to see how they continue to evolve 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:05.920 and adapt and get some of those younger players because 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.680 Marta is going to be here for a very limited time, 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:09.760 so they're going to have. 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.520 To figure out how to evolve themselves. 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:14.640 But the one thing I love so much about them 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:16.120 is their defensive stability. 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:19.400 They have to be the best defensive. 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:20.840 Team in the whole world, in my opinion, and I 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:24.400 think that that has been their platform to build their 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:25.720 successful attack upon. 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.160 Okay, that leads me right into strengths. I'm guessing you're 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:30.080 going to talk defense. 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.120 Yeah, I mean I think that they're so calculated and 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:36.160 they're very measured, and I think the real everyone says, 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:38.520 you know, Marta is a superstar. I believe it's StEB Hines. 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:42.160 I think he is brilliant. I think he creates an 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:46.560 environment where people can grow, where players can individually get 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.640 better and figure out how they add to the team 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.959 because there's so much flexibility in their left wing position 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:56.680 or any of their positions, and allow the freedom for 0:08:56.760 --> 0:09:00.520 their personalities to shine. So I think that he really 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:03.240 is like think about you know your closet and you've 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.160 got to figure out the best dress code to go 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:07.520 to an event in he's the best at picking out 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:09.600 you know, whether you're wearing the. 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:13.560 Three piece suit or whatever. But yeah, I'm really. 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:16.960 Looking forward to seeing how he continues to evolve this team. 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:18.520 A lot of strength at head coaching. I agree with you, though, 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:20.720 I will clip this off and aggregate it and send 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:22.240 it out to you saying a lot of people think 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.440 Marta is a superstar, not me, not her. Nothing to 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:28.920 do with their hot take hot take. What about weaknesses? 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:32.040 Ooh, this is gonna be a hard one. I think 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:35.640 their weakest position is goalkeeper. I think on a Morehouse's 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:39.559 weaknesses get masked by this team because they're so defensively 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:42.440 solid and they have such a commitment to get numbers 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:43.360 back behind the ball. 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:45.360 And you know, even. 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:48.280 Marda, she's still running out, hustling setting the standard for 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.760 the rest of the team. So I think they insulate 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.400 their goalkeeper a little bit. So that's something. I think 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.800 she's typically good for one mistake of game, so that's 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:59.199 something they're going to want to continue to limit opportunities 0:09:59.200 --> 0:09:59.640 on their goal. 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:03.440 Okay, last year's runners up, the Washington Spirit, what are 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:04.240 you most watching for? 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:06.800 I can't wait for their roster to get healthy. 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:10.320 I mean, when their roster is healthy, they are fighting 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:11.720 to be one of the best teams in the league. 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.760 I mean, they can beat teams in transition. That is 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.160 their bread and butter. And even with all of the 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.160 injuries that they had toward the end of last year, 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:22.120 they were still finding ways to pick teams off, even 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:25.160 though everyone knew that was their super strength, still finding 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.240 ways to pick teams off and get the ball into 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:30.400 the attacking third and to their playmakers as quick as possible. 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:32.840 They will do that this year as well. 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:35.280 The next evolution for them is getting some of those 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:39.400 players back that can allow for more dynamic attacks in 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.880 the final thirds. So when Kroubethun comes back, when Uleisar 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:47.560 comes back, they have so many dynamic pieces and it's 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:49.840 just so fun to watch because they're having so much 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:53.680 fun and they feel comfortable and confident. And when teams 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.600 feel comfortable you can't quantify that in a stat but 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:58.760 it's just like the game slows down for them and 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.000 they just have so many different like all right, well, 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:03.960 what way are we going to unlock this back line today? 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:06.600 And it just it doesn't feel like if it will happen. 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:09.960 It feels like when yeah. 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:10.959 So the strength transition game. 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:12.960 What else? I mean? 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:15.960 I think their creativity when they have a full complement 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.880 of players. Right now, I think they have like thirteen 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:22.920 healthy players, which has been their biggest constraint at this point, 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:26.959 playing players out of position, in uncomfortable positions, out of necessity. 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:30.400 But yeah, I think over time, adding some of these 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.400 younger players like McKenna Morris, who has developed so much 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:36.880 and contributing so much into the attack. I think it 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.280 is going to just add another layer for teams to 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:44.880 have to cope with and their weaknesses. At this point, 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.000 I do believe that they need more possession. 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:48.840 I think they need the ball a little bit more. 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:52.240 But they did bring in Narumi from the North Carolina courage, 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:55.119 who's going to add a bit more composure in the midfield. 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.440 I mean, Narumi plays like she has eyes in the 0:11:57.440 --> 0:11:59.960 back of her head. She can solve pressure from all angles. 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:03.120 She's so press resistant. It's those clever little two three 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:06.040 yard movements that getting good angles of support that's going 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.080 to bring out the best in how hirshfelt as well, 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.720 because now Hirshfeldt has an immediate option to her left 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:13.720 or right to be able to dish the ball to 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:17.360 and make it really simple. It's just as a collective unit, 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.440 they need to be better in transition. If it's on 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.240 great go, I mean they can slice through teams, but 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.880 if it's not on consolidate possession, and that's going to 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:26.760 help with their defensive side of the ball as well. 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:29.640 So correct me if I'm wrong. What I'm hearing is 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.320 decision making in those moments of transition. So while they 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.959 thrive when it works well. They also sometimes push it 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:37.120 when it's not there, and then that prevents them from 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:38.719 hanging out to possession and setting something up. 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:39.280 Yeah. 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:42.240 Absolutely, it definitely mutes their attack, but it also leaves 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:44.839 them open and transition themselves on the defensive side of right. 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:49.360 Fair Okay, Casey Current who A lot of us, just 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:51.800 you know, non biased thought would be really cool to 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:54.080 see in that championship game at their own stadium last year. 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:56.360 They came up just short, but they come back obviously 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:59.360 with tem wasshewinga and a real good shot again this year. 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:00.480 So what do you watching for? 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:04.800 I mean, I believe that this team is going to 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:08.560 be the top contender for the Shield. I think between Washington, 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:12.800 Kansas City, and Orlando, I think that these are gonna 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:14.120 be the three teams that are gonna be the front 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:17.320 runners for the Shield. I mean they have quality in 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:20.680 every position that in every single position, and not just 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:23.160 one player, two players and three different players. 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:24.640 Debinia can play all over the field. 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.800 We didn't even see Bea Zanarat in the first game, 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:29.400 and to me, she could be the best player in 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:32.200 the league and most influential players in the league in 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:34.760 terms of how she can unlock space for other people. 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.240 How she can play make the final ball, her crosses 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.559 into the box. I just think, you know, I think 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:44.480 she's so multi dimensional and just can elevate what Tim 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:49.120 much the winger can do as well. Okay, strengths strengths 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:53.319 their transition game from A to B and their turnovers 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:55.080 and the way that they can combine. 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:56.120 It's not just one pass. 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:57.760 It's not like we're going to pick you off through 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:01.360 Hutton and Low Labonta and immediately played in behind. We're 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.400 going to pick you off through Lola Bonta and Claire Hutton, 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:05.240 and then we're going to quickly combine in three different 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:06.880 places and then we're going to draw them in and 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:10.360 then exploit the space in behind. To me, it's unstoppable 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:13.200 because teams are their heads are spinning, they're trying to 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:15.800 you know, spin plates on their feets and their hands, 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.280 and they're trying to keep Tim washawinga silent. But it's 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:21.360 really Vanessa de Bernardo's movement and de Bean's movement that 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:24.240 teams get occupied with, and then that leaves to wing 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:26.920 ope and so I don't know how you defend it. 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:28.800 I'm so glad that I don't have to be a 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:30.920 coach on other teams because I just I don't know 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:31.920 how you defend her. 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:35.200 Or a keeper back there watching Sawego break out in 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.040 front of the pack and go one b one like 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.360 we saw in that first game weaknesses. 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.080 I know people are going to think I'm like super critical, 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:46.560 but I'm still wondering how their goalkeeper is going to do. 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:50.440 Lowdan and bringing in a Brazilian goalkeeper, first Brazilian goalkeeper 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:54.000 to come to our league. I think that's probably for 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:57.280 a reason because the Brazilians haven't had the best women's 0:14:57.320 --> 0:15:01.400 goalkeepers in their history, so so maybe not a doubt, 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:04.280 maybe just a question mark to see how that translates. 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:06.880 We're gonna take a quick break when we come back 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:08.040 more with Jill Lluyden. 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:09.360 Don't move a muscle. 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.680 Gotham f C. Interesting off season for them, but still 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:25.080 a lot of talent. What are you watching for? 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:26.040 Yeah? 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:29.640 I think wan Carlos Amros's style is very distinct, very 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:31.520 different than most teams in the league, and I think 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:35.440 he has coined it controlled chaos, and it's something that 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:38.520 takes time, and it takes fluidity, and it takes a 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:40.760 lot of flexible players. 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.080 And a lot of special players. 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:45.360 To play this way, you have to have two very 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:49.240 competent center backs and of competent holding midfielder and competent 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:52.400 goalkeeper because they take so many risks with getting numbers 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.640 forward and then they counterpress and they take a lot 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:56.240 of risks to try to win it back close to 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.520 their goal that the natural place you're vulnerable is in 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.720 behind them, the space behind the two center backs. So 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.960 you need to have players that can proactively defend, and 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.280 you need to have a really brave goalkeeper that plays 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:11.640 a high vertical position. And so I'm just curious, you know, 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.400 with some of the mass exodus that happened in the offseason, 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:17.200 if these new players can quickly adapt to his style 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:19.400 and take on some of the principles of play. 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:22.720 But and Katrin Berger back there is a pretty good 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:24.760 person to have if that's your style. And same with 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.480 Tieranna Davidson. Yeah, those are two you can count on 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:27.880 back there. 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:28.720 And Emily's on it. 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.400 I mean, I think I compared her last year to like, 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.560 I'm a mom, i have two kids, and I'm constantly 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:35.600 walking behind my kids and cleaning up their mess. And 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.720 that's what Emily Son it does for this Speaking. 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:42.000 Of controlled chaos, right, yeah, exactly. You kind of gave 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:43.960 us some strengths and weaknesses in there, but hit those 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:44.480 real quick. 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:45.120 Yeah. 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:46.920 I think their strength is their ability to keep the 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:50.960 ball and get it in established territory, get it into 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.680 their final third as often as possible, and allow players 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.280 in the wide channels to either go one b one. 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:59.200 And having Midge versus back is a huge addition. 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:00.960 So exciting. Yeah, I'm so excited. 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:04.119 I love watching her play and Rose level and seeing 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:06.560 how that connection works out in the final third. I 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:10.399 think this space they're exposed in is behind their back line. 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:13.520 It is pretty gross when we're like, oh them lost everyone, 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:15.560 and then you're just ripping off the names of people 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:16.879 they still have. Thank you. 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:17.720 I'm fair. 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:20.920 Yeah, let's go to the Utah Royals. 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:24.840 What are you watching for other than Ali, Sentin or Bangers? Yeah, yeah, 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:26.879 we're always on that alert. Can't you score in the 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:31.800 box is what we're all watching for. That's fair. Yeah. 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.119 I'm really looking forward to some of their new players 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.400 that they have on their team. They brought in Alex Loyda, 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:38.120 who I think is going to contribute a lot when 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:40.560 she gets healthy, hopefully in the next couple months, and 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:42.560 that's going to be able to push Claudia's or nose 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:44.600 a little bit higher up in the fields. And I'm 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:48.440 really excited to see her relationship with me. 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:50.640 And it's Knock up front as well as Ali Sentinor. 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.840 They have playmakers in the back, and now they've figured 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:56.560 out how to break lines with their possession, and now 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:59.200 I'm curious to see how those three can work together 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:01.800 in the final third to create the openings in their 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:03.159 opponent's defensive lines. 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:06.600