WEBVTT - OTA Overreactions!? Collecting Talent in the Front Office, NFL NBA Starting Five | Command Center Podcast | Washington Commanders 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:05.120 On today's episode The Command Center Podcast, we talked about 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:08.160 the new Director of Player Personnel, David Blackburn. We talk 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:10.480 about OTAs, do they matter, do they not matter? What 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:12.000 did we try to get out of them? And we 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:15.040 talk about our starting five NFL players that could play 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:17.960 in the NBA right now, and there's tons of story 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:21.240 time and Fred for Heisman, Smoot for Heisman. It all 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:27.560 starts right now. Welcome to The Command Center Podcast. I'm 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:31.280 Logan Paulson here with Fred Smoot and Santana Moss. 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We'll make that announcement probably out here, but 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:07.360 we can't wait to kind of get to meet you 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:10.440 guys and hang out in person. But now let's get 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:13.039 to the show. One thing we were talking about before 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:16.600 we started is your guys draft class. Yes, yeah, and 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:18.440 you said how many Hall of Famers are in your 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:19.000 draft class? 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:22.760 We got securely right now, four to five, probably like 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:23.800 five more on Dick. 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.440 And so it's really funny because we've did something about 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:28.839 your draft class earlier, and so who were some names 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:31.520 from your draft class? Just real quickly, let's start with receiver. 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:32.400 Let's start with receivers. 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:33.560 So many receivers. 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:35.720 So if I just start off from the first round 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:37.600 and to the you know, just names that I know of. 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:39.960 We had David. 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:48.320 Robinson, uh, your boy who was here, Rodart, and myself. 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:51.880 Steve Johnson. 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:54.720 I think it's interesting that the guys that are really 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:56.240 good were the guys that were picked later. 0:01:56.400 --> 0:02:01.280 Yeah. I'm well Chris, Chris Chambers. 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:04.559 We talked about Christian Chamber. We had this a speedy 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:08.520 punk returner too well, I mean Dante Hall Dante. 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:10.880 Yeah, So was this like, I mean, I don't know, 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:13.160 it's hard to say. What was your class? Like it 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:14.960 feels like just once on some of those names kind 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:15.720 of generational. 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:16.679 It was generational. 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:18.400 We changed the league runs. I mean, even I think 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:20.560 about it. I came in as a first round pick 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:22.800 at five to nine ye five nine and a half, 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:26.280 and they were saying that at the time that I 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:28.680 was too short to even be a top ten pick. 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:30.840 They didn't see a guy my size coming in being 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.320 a top ten pick. Guys who went who went the 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:36.800 top ten, core In Robinson, David Terrell, and even all 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.480 the guys who went in front of me, Rod Gardner, 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:41.399 those guys were all taller, you know what I mean. 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:43.440 So when me and Steve Smith was able to be 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:45.960 successful as fire because I think both of us hit 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:48.600 it our same year. I know Steve seime out the gate. 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.680 He was a Pro Bowl as a special teamer the season, 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:54.920 but as a receiver. If I'm not mistaken, don't quote me. 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.440 I remember I had my first thousand yards in year three. 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:00.359 That was the year two of me playing. Didn't play 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.520 my first year Steve. If I'm not mistaken, Jason might 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:05.519 have to pull us up. He either had one thousand 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:07.320 yards either year two or year three as well. 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:09.000 So, yeah, you think about it. 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:13.160 If you think about it, us at that size primarily 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:16.200 outside we slots. We didn't play in the slot, we 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.280 lay it outside. It changed the whole spectrum of how 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.840 they view guys, you know, smaller receivers coming to the league. 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:26.880 So and not all just odditist. You got me skinny corner. 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:29.639 Then you got Michael Vick, not the tallest quarterback, but 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.560 he runner for two forty. You got you got Drew Brees, 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:37.600 who's don't fit any numbers, too short. So we had 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:40.160 some oddities in our class that we had Steve Hutchinson 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.040 at the office of line like we had office of Lineman. 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:45.960 We had all kinds like douce mcalla stuff tom So, 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:51.560 We Travis Henry, Richard Seymour, Richard Seymour, Big Mark Strode, 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:56.080 big Bore name from Florida. We had Alex Brown, Alex 0:03:56.120 --> 0:04:01.760 Brown not just d lineman from which one from Florida 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:05.320 had that was Alex Brown Brown? Oh you talking about 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:08.600 big Boy played Detawn He played detached, was it? Huh huh? 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.320 Yeah, Big Jur I mean Jered Ward. And we had 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:13.400 Dan Morgan. 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:15.280 Morgan came class. 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:18.160 So obviously these names are they're lost on me because 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:20.200 I'm too young. But if you if you are familiar 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:22.479 with these names, you're like, man, that dude was sick, Yeah, 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:25.760 was sick, had. 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:28.919 Had great season, like they was great career, great, great careers. 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:29.279 Yeah. 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:32.120 Yeah, Todd Heap is wild. 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:34.479 That's a wild one. I mean just like because that 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:36.640 he was like maybe the best of the position, like 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:40.320 LT was maybe the best position Steve Smith to mention Chad. 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:41.960 Johnson, Michael Vie. 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.240 Yeah, like the whole thing. It's just it's so. 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.160 Weird kind of tackle. 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:47.560 When you kind of tie it all back to the 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:50.080 same draft class. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, that's 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:50.640 just wild. 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:50.800 Man. 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:53.800 You were talking about a Heisman class too, right, was it? 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:58.200 You were seventh in the seven? You were not nine. 0:04:58.720 --> 0:04:59.520 There's no way you were. 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.960 I believe Chris Winky won our class. So Chris Winky 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:05.960 was also Chris with us. Yeah, Chris Winky came out 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:07.720 that year also with I mean that just he won 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:10.479 the Heisman that year. I believe big with second or third. 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.320 Yeah, you know so, I just think it's so crazy 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.400 how like the guys that were drafted really high, like 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:15.480 weren't necessarily like. 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:17.320 The bit you know what I'm saying, It's never like 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:18.360 that it never drafted. 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:21.120 I always think that that's why like having good scouts 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:22.680 and good people in the building. 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.520 Super I'm glad you spoke about that, because that was 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.400 if I had one thing I always thought about throughout 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:32.000 my career was owning up to where I was drafted. 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:34.560 So you know, like it was like enough, that was 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:36.880 one of the things that hunted me. I can't say 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:39.000 it hunted me, but I thought about it every day 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:40.840 really because I got hurt out the gate. 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:41.760 You see what I'm saying. 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.200 I got hurt before I played a game in the NFL. 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.480 So to not have that season and see everybody else playing, 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:51.880 you know, think about the snoop minus. Also I was 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:55.000 I remember having my brace on my my thing, my 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.520 my true rookie season. 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:58.039 And I'm sitting on the shoe. 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.479 Huh. I had a lateral niscus t I tore so 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:04.640 much that did so what we did was back then 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:06.160 they wanted to carve me on to have me back 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:08.120 out there for four weeks. I went home for a 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:11.279 second opinion. I came back with surgery already because my 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:13.600 guy told me, say, Tanna, if I sing you back 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:17.760 up there, you're probably last six years. If that you say, 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.080 if I save your meniscus right now, they're gonna be 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:22.279 mad with you. I'm gonna give you a longer you know, 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:23.560 career dude playing. 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:26.080 I will say this, the way they used to do meniscus, yeah, 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:30.320 was is now looking back on it crazy just straight 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:32.840 slipped out and keep it moving and it's like you're 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:33.880 just straight bone on bone. 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:35.960 So so it's so crazy that we're talking about it. 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:39.159 Because even with me having a surgery after the season, 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:40.880 I had to have another surgery because a piece of 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:44.320 it didn't attach, so I was had a body floating 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:46.720 floating in there to where so I had two surgeries 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:48.120 before I even got a chance to play football. 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:50.360 You know what I'm saying, Yeah, that's wild man, But 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:52.520 I didn't. I didn't realize because you're a guy to 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:55.599 me that like you're pretty chill. Yeah, but like that 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:56.640 that dug at you, I. 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:58.360 Dug it man bothered me. And that's why I said 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:01.080 I was so amy about my preper erration. That's what 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:03.080 made me the guy. I mean, I was already him 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.200 far as getting ready to prepare, you know, preparing myself 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:10.120 for each season. But I was more on that than 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:12.400 anything because I didn't want to be a failure at 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:13.480 being a first round pick. 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.360 You're Santana Moss without that adversity. 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:17.480 Now everything needs to happen. 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:19.840 Everything happened for a reason, bro, Like if you saw, 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:22.360 if you saw how I got here, what they had 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:24.280 for me, if you saw how I got here, that's 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.040 a that alone made me who I am. 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.520 You know what I'm saying. Yeah, so Fred, so Tanna 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:29.800 is telling this heartfelt story. 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:32.920 Was really you got Fred. 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:35.280 I don't know if we can put this on the screen, 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:38.400 but like, it's a picture of Fred forre Heisman. 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.840 Let me see. I don't know where you found it. 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:46.080 Made this yourself. I took a picture of it. It 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:46.720 was to be aboard. 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:51.000 I told you it was deuce for Heisman. It was 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:54.720 deuce for Heisman, and it was smooth for I tell y'all. 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.240 One thing though, man, being that I played Wade in 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.720 Miami and didn't know nothing about no other conference but 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:03.560 the Big East, which I was in the A c 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:06.520 C because Florida State was in and SEC because. 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:06.960 Florida was in that. 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:11.120 I heard smooth name so much, man, so he ran 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:14.120 our college for four years. I was there. You heard 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:17.520 Fred Smooth doing something so Fred was that dude. 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:22.600 Yes, he's too young, too young. What I had going on? 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:26.520 Fred backed it up, man heat. He talked a lot 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:28.160 of junk, but he went out there and played some 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:28.840 good football. 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:29.800 Man, Oh my god. 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:30.880 And I played it. 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:33.840 So you're no no no bs. 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:37.720 No bs. I was hyped up coming out of college. 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:38.120 Thank you. 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:42.200 I was very That's why I believe we're just checking. 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:46.720 He said. He was very specific about it. No listen, 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:50.200 I was that boy. I know you young, that boy, 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.040 I know you young. Well, I can't say that because 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:53.400 I didn't do anything in college. 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:57.040 My generation was Yeah, if you say cornerback, they're gonna 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.160 bring my name up. So you know how like you 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:00.959 go to Like I told you, we already shared this 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:04.040 story about us going to the Playball American and the 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:08.280 way you know, when guys respect guys, they gonna respect 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:11.280 guy who they feel like he got something. I knew 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:13.240 fred name before I got up there. I'm like this, 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.880 damn Fred smooth, and he showed. 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:18.120 Me love out the gates. I said, Okay, that's respect. 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:18.680 I like that. 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.400 But I heard him talk that everybody else you're gonna have. 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.800 To bleep that. It's not surprising, but I was. 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:26.719 Laughing to myself. I knew all things about him. I 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:27.840 had to stunter of them all. 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:31.280 Like fred was telling people their whole background, what they 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:32.280 can do, what they can't do. 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:35.040 Yeah, oh Freddie Millers, you only can do this, see you. 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:36.840 They got to give you the ball. See you can't. 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.320 You can't run rounds like I'm boy down in Miami. 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:40.720 After you and I'm sitting there like, man, who is 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:42.959 he can't run round Like? But if you throw on 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.040 the screen, didn't turn it into a touchdown? 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:46.800 You're doing that on purpose? Or is that just how 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:47.120 you work? 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:48.480 That's just how I am. Bro. 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:50.600 He just was like he wasn't trying to get on 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:50.960 your skull. 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:51.720 He just was talking. 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:52.440 That's why I tell him. 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.040 I say, Bro, I know your cousins hated you when 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:56.920 they was growing up. He say, the only child, so 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.040 I wouldn't want to see him. I'm one of my 0:09:59.040 --> 0:09:59.520 grandma house. 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:01.719 I got to see him. I'm just sitting on the. 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:06.160 What we got, Jason uh. 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.920 A good season in two thousand with Mississippi State. 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:13.200 Two thousand and one, No, it would be two thousand. 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.280 Yeah, you had five interceptions and you didn't give up 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:16.800 a touchdown. 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:21.080 That dude, man, pretty good that was coming. That's coming 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:22.960 off a junior year which I had a bettle joy? 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:24.400 Was he really there for the husband? 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:25.120 Was that? Can we like? 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:26.960 I don't know, I'll search that. 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:28.719 Can we like? I just showed you. 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:33.360 All that, all that It was just cursed all that 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:35.600 stuff you just showed me. I thought you could have 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:36.719 made that yourself. I did. 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:39.400 I did hold on holding the crazy part about it. 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.360 This is not script. We didn't. We didn't come in 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.880 here and saying we were gonna talk about he got 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:52.640 it already because his history you gotta give you got 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:53.400 to give him a benefit. 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:55.920 I just thank you, man, because you was the office 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:57.319 of But I was closer to that. 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:01.280 But I wasn't close to anything like I know exactly 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:03.439 what I was. I was. I'm just happy to be here, man, 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:05.640 Just happy to sit in between two great football players. 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:08.480 I'll tell you that. Also, Teddy you you said something crazy? 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:09.080 Yeah? 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.079 And Fred you this is true right what he said 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:12.280 about him being what was it? 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:16.200 So? I was, I was the biggest offense and player 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:16.400 of the. 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:17.959 Year, and you're the only person, the only person to 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:18.400 ever do that. 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:20.360 First and last weeks no longer. 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:22.400 Have a and the other person you shared the offensive 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:25.320 player with was Michael Mike classmates. 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:26.600 Yeah, I didn't. 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:28.800 I knew you were I knew you guys were both beasts. 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:30.160 But like when you hear stuff like that, you're like, 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:30.719 and bro. 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.080 I'm gonna tell you the truth and the whole thing 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.480 about this, even leading up to the whole Heisman thing. 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.199 This is fact you. You gonna ask me to save case. 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:39.880 You know we have to fact cha on this show. 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:41.080 Nobody just tell the show. 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:44.240 Bush Davis called me into the office going into my 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:47.480 senior years. It's the summer. We got there train and 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.120 bust out behind. He was like, hey, man, I just 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:51.040 want to let you know. You know we're you're gonna 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.200 take this. You got to take this magazine cover because 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:55.120 you're up for the Heisman this year. And I was 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:58.000 like no, He's like, what you mean No? I was like, Man, 0:11:58.000 --> 0:11:59.440 don't want that. I don't want to take the picture. 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:00.960 I don't want to be up for the high means. 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:02.400 Like was it the ESPN magazine. 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:04.320 I'm not even sure what it was, but I know 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:07.440 I remember I remember being on it and doing a 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:08.760 move and he was like, Bro, this is good for 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.760 the school. It's gonna bring us attention. But I'm superstitious, 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:14.000 and I'm like, man by, get on these cousin. Something 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:16.480 happened and out the gate. I twisted my ankle the 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:18.000 first game of the season, so. 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.880 Here I am, and it bothered me. 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:23.480 Like he told me. We had a little saying. Coach 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:25.560 Davis told one of our trainers, if Tanna could walk, 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:28.280 he's playing. So I played the next four or five 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:32.240 games that season limping, limping, and I remember they was 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:34.200 writing me off in the play all Tanner having the 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:37.000 worst senior season. I'm like, I'm not getting any passes. 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.160 I'm out here to be a decoy. So we can't 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:43.120 double Reggie, you understand. And I remember I went home 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:45.000 and my trainer told me. He said, look, bro, he 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:46.800 would give me treatment every day and he said, Tanna, 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:49.440 in five weeks, you're gonna feel like yourself. And he 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:51.560 put on the he circled the game. He said, look 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:53.480 what game we have in five or six weeks. It 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:56.199 was Florida State. So I went home and I'm praying. 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.360 I'm like, bro, I just want to be half of myself. 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.120 Florida State week, I go out there and I had 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.160 that hundred yards and if y'all want to know why 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.640 I was emotional when I said, big time player step 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.560 up in big games. I was emotional because you heard 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:10.920 I said, I say, you know a freak. All the 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:14.360 criticism for big time players step up in big games. 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.880 I was getting criticized for being hurt, like I couldn't 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:18.880 get I couldn't get off. 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.000 I wasn't doing nothing. I was just out there. So 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.360 they were saying, oh, he's not doing anything. It's his 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:24.000 senior year. 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.640 And that was the game. I had one hundred yards 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.000 and I didn't look back. 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:30.760 Then still the seventh of the Hetman voting, and then 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:31.679 Fred was nice. 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:33.160 Yes, because you don't believe. 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.559 I think you don't believe in the in the allure 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.840 of a young Fred smooth, like the college free. 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:43.040 I'm sorry you get a picture of it, but like, 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:44.439 I don't know, man, it. 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.719 Ain't so crazy though, because Fred came with a lot 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.480 of hype and it was almost like the mic, not 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:53.360 the Mike Vic but the Lebron James, Like when you 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:55.480 see somebody's like, all right, damn, this dude supposed to 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:57.560 be all world out out out of there, and then 0:13:57.600 --> 0:13:59.520 you see him, I doesn't I'm watching him on Sports Center, 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:04.000 Fred move on. I'm like this playing he can really play, 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.040 you know what I mean. So, but then to get 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.360 in the same building with him, Oh my god. I 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:10.560 was just like, if I had to hear this, dude, man, 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.360 I hope it comes off a different way. And I'm all, 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.240 I take that kind of stuff that chatter wrong most 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:18.040 of the time. But he's a good person, So I 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:19.160 never took it that way. 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:21.280 From him, and and that little challenges. 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:23.320 So I always went out to like, if you they 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:25.000 tell me this to best received, I want to work 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:31.000 out with it. Like that was my theme that, Yeah, I. 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:35.160 Don't know how good this source is, uh, but you 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:38.480 didn't ask me anything. On Reddit eight years ago, Yeah, 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.240 and someone commented one there that they were a student 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:43.920 at Mississippi State when you were there and they had 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:46.000 a smooth for heiasman bumper stick. 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.240 Yeah, because all the whole campus they wanted you to sign. Yeah, 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:53.280 that made the whole campus, made them. I believe that 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:53.880 it's out there. 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:57.440 Some dude said it's out there, so there's at least 0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:58.480 a campaign for it, all. 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:06.760 Right, he's out there. Respect defensive players in general, we 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:08.240 don't get no love, you know what I'm saying it's 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:08.480 just like. 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:11.800 That's why I yeft, that's that's the main reason that yet, 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.600 because they say we're good, but they won't give us 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.080 any for any. 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:16.640 Other offense stuff. 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:18.600 As a good salesman, he knew how to get usself, 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:20.320 you know, how to put the light on him. 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:22.600 And then he went, yeah, I think that's one of 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:24.200 my favorite stories about you. Was at the Senior Bowl 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:26.760 and they said you were killing all the receivers and 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:28.000 they brought you over to the other practice. 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:29.240 Ye right, to go and get you. 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:31.600 I'll do it. I mean, that's awesome, man. All Right. 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:35.680 So that's kind of concluding our story time interlude to Yeah, 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:40.440 it's great story time. It's a segment the recommendation anyway. 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:43.760 So in Commander's News, we have a new director of 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:48.840 Player Personnel, David Blackburn, and he is a former uh 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:53.880 Baltimore raven see man. And it's not like I want 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:55.760 him to and it's not like he was just a guy. 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.560 He was the director of college Scouting and Baltimore and 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.480 talking about a job that is taxing, like I've had 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:04.560 a you know, every stop I've had, I kind of 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:05.880 will go talk to the director of college gout. He 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:07.840 just to get a feel. They not only have to 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:12.920 evaluate three hundred plus college athletes, but they are responsible 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.440 for all of the regional scouts. So, you know, the 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:17.600 way that we divide up the country here with Washington 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:19.480 they used to with the old staff is like there's 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.640 a director of everybody you know west of the Mississippi, 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:24.960 as a director of everybody east of Mississippi. They all 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:27.640 have people that report to them for like regionals. They 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:29.440 kind of divided it up almost by state. You know 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:31.920 a number of schools and it's your job as the 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:35.720 director of college scouting to distill all of that information, 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:38.800 make reports for all the athletes. Now again you can 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:40.960 you know, what do they call that delegate some of that, 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:43.680 some of that some of those tasks to you know, 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:45.280 like your people that work under you. But then you 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:47.520 have to present it to the offensive end defensive coaching staff. 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:48.160 So the head coach. 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.160 So now he wasn't just like a guy, he was 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.760 like he was like doing the dang thing there. Now 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.240 he's a director of pro Scouting, which is like I 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.280 think some people would consider a promotion for him, But 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.920 he did that for seventeen years. Is at an organization 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:06.240 that is known for drafting well, drafting extremely well. Yeah, 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:08.080 So for me, I'm just like, man, we're just getting 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:12.000 you know, we're getting more good people from good organizations 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:14.040 that have an opportunity to kind of help kind of 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:15.119 slidify this culture. 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:18.080 They're saying good players ain't enough. They saying good coaches 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:21.159 ain't enough. They need good from the top to the bottom. 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:25.240 They understand we're not trying to have a good season. 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:28.040 We try to have a good couple of decades. 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:31.960 They're trying to do it to the point where you know, 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:33.760 when you when you're doing things right, when other people 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:36.359 try to try to come pay and steal the people 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.439 that's working for you, Well, we're going out to the 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.200 top people and we're getting them like that. 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:41.879 Don't mean we don't keep them for twenty years, but 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:42.600 we're getting them. 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:45.000 And they I think they understand now that it's way 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:46.520 deeper than just coaches in football. 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:47.040 It's way deep. 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:49.080 I mean, we've been talking about this for so many years. 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:52.479 When it comes to how to run a business, how 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:55.040 you're going to run it. If you got one part 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:58.560 of it rolling or you know, and the other part 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.280 of it is basically a camp and so or toxic, 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:03.600 it kind of trinkles down and it leads into it 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:07.760 doing well. So that's what I see right now. These guys, 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:09.480 ain't They came in here and they say, look, man, 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:12.199 you already say we got an F grade when it 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.840 comes to our facility. We're gonna change that. I say, 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.240 we got things going on at the stadium that people 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.359 not liking. We're gonna change that. Yeah, you know, you 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:21.520 say we need this and that stuff and staff people 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:23.639 see PA's you know, all that stuff. We're gonna change that. 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:26.400 They're from from top to bottom. They're trying to make 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:29.840 this thing something that not just the players can come 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:31.680 over here and be happy with, but the fans can 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:35.240 appreciate what they're doing because in order for you to 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:36.760 have a great team, you got to have people who 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:39.440 knows how to get the right the right players. And 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:41.800 when you see this guy's track record seventeen years stands 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:45.200 out more than anything and put a little human behind it, 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:46.920 it almost feels like, you know, how you stayed with 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:49.119 your grandma and that one cousin that had to leave 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:51.359 his mom house, that was that was pretty good over there, 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:53.679 and he came over to stay with y'all, and he 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:55.879 was that cousin that could cook, clean and do everything. 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:57.399 So it just made everything better for you. 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.959 So we keep talking about in the Baltimore Ravens our cousins. 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:02.440 Yeah, he came on. 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:03.840 Over here to day would with us. 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:09.480 We ain't had no analytics. Analytic a little easier for 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:10.200 you know. 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:12.320 Yeah, But I think that's a great point ten because 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:14.359 all the teams that are like in the show, you 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:17.800 know what I'm saying, the forty nine Ers, Philadelphia Eagles, Troylyons, 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:22.479 Baltimore Ravens, like those four teams are four excellent rosters. Now, 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:24.520 obviously Kansas City is a little bit of outlier because 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:26.880 they found a great quarterback in terms of you need 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:29.719 people from those organizations to kind of say, hey, this 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:31.520 is how we build it, this is how identify talent, 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:32.960 this is how we ensure that we're going to be 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:36.439 on that track sooner rather than later. So another interesting 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:39.760 thing about him, De Paul University graduate with a degree 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:42.520 in economics, smart man and a minor in history. So 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:47.800 like school, four year starter at cornerback, team captain and 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:52.719 only four time All sc AC selection in school history. 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:55.760 Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference. For those of you at home, 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:58.320 keeping score. So I like that he's got the football background. 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:01.880 So smart dude, football player. I mean again, like who 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:03.479 was a half of talent? Who's the guy who did 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.399 last week? So on? So yeah, like that dude's resume 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:09.240 was impeccable. Yeah, this guy's resume is to me, exactly 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:11.920 what you want, everything you want. So that's always uh 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:13.040 mirrors each other. 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:16.600 Yeah, qualified guys doing qualified things, and and this this 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:17.600 that bills trust. 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:19.600 If the coaches stay no one, I ain't got to 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:20.119 be looking at that. 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:22.120 We got the right guys and then they're gonna handle 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:24.680 it in scenes and out season, don't matter. 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:26.919 How many years we was here. And we saw a 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:29.000 guy to that we knew should have been on our 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:30.840 team that didn't get kept, we say it out of 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:34.520 time and pay. Yeah, we understand. 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:34.960 It's different. 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:37.520 It's deeper than that because it's money that's dealing with it, 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:39.880 and it's players that you know, you know, roster spots. 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:43.160 But it just shows you, man that even players who 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:45.560 played this game long enough have a eye. So it's 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:47.919 great to know this guy has a background and and 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:50.119 he's been doing well for for for you know, for 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:50.640 a long time. 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:52.160 And we're not saying this is gonna be the magic 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:54.320 bull it, but it just is. It's such. It's nice 0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:56.200 when the process is correct, you know what I mean, 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:58.879 Hire good people, bringing the right type of people. And 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:01.640 it's not just one guy trying to make all the decisions. 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:03.320 It's a group of them correct. 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:06.359 And it's the right ingredients to a good dinner, like 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:08.160 you got to head the right ingredients. If you don't 0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:09.879 got the right and gigs by the time you cook it, 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:11.360 no matter how good the cookie. 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:14.120 Is, the food nasty. And then what we've been serving 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:16.440 we've been serving his sack lunches for years over here. 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:19.400 Now now we got all you can. 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:21.880 Eat but fake come on in here, and we're slowly 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:23.600 putting the cooks in there and letting them cook. 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:25.480 So yeah, I needed to stay. We're pretty stoked about it. 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:28.040 But you know that's this. These are these are the 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:30.359 type of decisions that pay dividends down the road, not 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:33.520 necessarily not today this season, but in terms of this season, Yes, 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:36.520 we got ots are happening. I went out to practice 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:38.199 last week. One thing I want to run by you 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:39.879 guys real quick. I know we can. You had to 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:42.000 go to Florida. You had some stuff going on One 0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:44.119 of the things is Jaden threw two interceptions in the 0:21:44.119 --> 0:21:48.159 red zone last week. Part like reason for concern or 0:21:48.520 --> 0:21:49.080 I don't care. 0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:52.200 Yeah, what this is the time to everything you want 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:55.760 to travel to try it now going right, Like, if. 0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:57.479 You're going to make the mistakes, make them now, make 0:21:57.520 --> 0:21:59.639 them down, make them down, make you like yeah, but 0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:01.120 this is the reason learning curve. 0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:02.600 The reason I really want to bring it up is because, 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:04.600 like I think people hear like, oh, red zone and 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:07.240 there's no context. But to me, red zone is tight, 0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:11.920 especially early in the offseason, favors the defense, yes, because 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:13.159 they you can just talk about that. 0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:13.960 I think about it. 0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:16.920 If they hit the five yard line, the end zone 0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:21.000 is only ten yards deep, all right. We don't backpedal everything. 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:24.159 Every decision is made in intents of a second. Every 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:27.080 window that that quarterbacks and throws in it can start that. 0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:28.439 Big, it's gonna end that small. 0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:33.480 And when you're in the red zone tips everything if 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:35.440 you can get it, if the d line can get 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:37.280 a hand on the ball, if the dv can get 0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:38.919 a hand on the ball, we usually gonna turn that 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:42.200 ball over there. So the windows are smaller. Everything's done 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:44.520 so quick, and you got to make a decision. That's 0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:47.000 what I think he's learning right now. Hight the ball. 0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:50.119 I got probably three four tenths of us tend to 0:22:50.160 --> 0:22:52.800 make seconds to make my decision, and I got to 0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:54.879 live with it, even if that decision is throwing the 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:56.040 ball out the back of the en zone. 0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:57.959 That's why, you know, as a receiver, I hate it 0:22:58.040 --> 0:23:00.280 the closer we got to the end zone because. 0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:02.200 Now it takes away you'll beat me a game, you 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:02.680 know what I mean. 0:23:02.760 --> 0:23:05.119 So you know, especially if you're not throwing me no 0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:08.000 jump ball, not not using my ability to go up 0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:10.760 for the ball, then I'm not a I'm not a use. 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:13.560 So I love when we could cross that fifty and 0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:16.040 we're still throwing bombs from the twenty five or out 0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:18.280 of thirty. But when you get in those close areas, 0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:21.480 those pro semities, man, it's tough. And for a young guy, 0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:23.760 if he's going to learn it, learn it now. Get 0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:26.240 that out your system now, because right now we're not 0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:28.359 even in real pass You're not you don't have bodies 0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:30.520 flying at you the way you would seeing a regular 0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:33.440 you know, drill practice against the teams. You know, our 0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:35.080 first team was you know, going to get a second 0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:38.040 team or whatever. But I'm happy because we talked about 0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:39.200 this before we got on the show. 0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:41.920 Who cares about what goes on OTA. 0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:44.199 That's why we have OTAs, because we want you to 0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:46.119 get in here and learn the system, get in here 0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:48.760 and get you know, I guess you can say, get your. 0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:49.320 Time in together. 0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:52.440 All that stuff plays a part of your game now 0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:55.080 because by the time we get here, when things live, 0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:57.960 bullets are flying around, That's when I'm gonna be concerned. 0:23:58.000 --> 0:23:59.320 That's what I'm gonna be worried about. 0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:00.679 How you looking alsold this. 0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:03.240 Let's be honest, if they was selling mon selling a 0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:05.719 team in OTAs, he ain't pull it out the legs 0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:08.800 because this the one thing he has that when it 0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:10.560 don't turn out the way he wanted to be in 0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:11.480 the red zone. 0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:12.080 He gonna run. 0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:15.320 So he wouldn't you, He wouldn't weaponizing it. He was like, 0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:17.120 I gotta throw this bott I'm gonna throw the ball. 0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:19.119 So I think people need to take it for what 0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:21.240 it was. Because we hear a lot of people talking 0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:23.040 about Kayla william through six weeks. 0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:25.800 Out of practice. I don't care. I just don't care. 0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:27.440 Yeah, And I was gonna say the other thing about 0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:30.160 the red zone specifically, is like that's a game plan 0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:32.560 phase of the game for the offense, right, Like you're 0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:34.199 gonna scheme up. You're gonna say, oh, this is how 0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:36.520 they run their quarters. These are the players we're gonna run. 0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:39.280 We're gonna have kind of designated stuff. You're not running 0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:41.639 just general offense. There and there looked to me like 0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:43.920 they were running pretty general offensive stuff, which put which 0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:46.360 puts them in a hard spot. You can't run the football. 0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:48.720 You can't run, you can't scram up. So it's all 0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:50.720 kind of it favors the defense big time. 0:24:50.760 --> 0:24:50.920 Man. 0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:53.520 Again, like you were saying, Fred, like you know, Cale 0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:56.960 Williams through twelve interceptions, but I can care less. I 0:24:56.960 --> 0:24:59.080 guess practice, man, he's learned a new offense. 0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:01.720 It's the best too, because you gotta understand, especially in 0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:03.800 the world when today, when it comes to social media, 0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:06.120 all this stuff is clickbait. So if you see somebody 0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:08.200 out there doing well, we're gonna praise and we're gonna 0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:10.359 we're gonna send him to the Pro Bowl. Already, season 0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:12.479 ain't start. He's gonna be a Pro Bowl player, he's 0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:14.720 gonna be a Hall of Famer. I want these guys 0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:18.200 to you know, I guess progress on the time that 0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:19.720 they're ready to progress, you know what I mean. I 0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:21.520 don't want to see all No, I don't want to 0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:24.280 see his crown anybody so far they you know, and 0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:26.119 when you're desperate, in which we are up here in 0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:28.760 this area, Yeah, we're desperate. So we're gonna crown whoever 0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:30.720 as soon as you bring the guy. Oh, he's ready, 0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:32.320 he's ready to go out there and do it. Don't 0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:33.480 give give him his time. 0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.679 I come to like the cloud that's around Jaden because 0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:38.680 it's his hype. 0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:42.919 People is it? Don't got that? I guess. I was 0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:44.960 here when r G three got drafted, and it was 0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:45.800 just different. 0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:51.360 It was almost a messiah savior complex that they put 0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:53.800 on Robert that I don't see them putting on Jaden. 0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:56.560 It's more of okay, thank you, great draft pick. Now 0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:59.480 let's see what he got. And with Robert it was like, well, 0:25:59.880 --> 0:26:02.719 I ain't gonna lie Robert. Robert came out explosive. 0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:03.479 So no, no, he's did. 0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:05.199 But you know, I have to say, before Robertie even 0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:09.440 played the down, it was like I said this this savior. 0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:12.000 Yeah. Yeah. The other thing is, you know, not to 0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:13.680 say that he had a bad practice. I actually thought 0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:15.639 he looked like just to kind of hype this Messiah 0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:17.520 thing up even more. But he had a great practice 0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:20.480 outside those two, like he just he understands like where 0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:23.320 to go with the football, He understands progressions. He threw 0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:27.639 two excellent deep balls, one of Jehan that was awesome. 0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:30.720 You saw that. Well, so everyone's talking about the throw 0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:34.639 and I was stoked on Johan. Yeah, well the catch, well, 0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:36.240 he's always got the ball skills. But I don't know 0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:38.360 if it was on the clip, but in practice, I'm 0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:42.520 talking little double stick arm through working the shoulder. Remember 0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:44.000 how last year he kind of just run into that 0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:46.120 cod like and I just thought, man, that's a guy 0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:47.399 who's been on his craft. 0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:49.439 He's been polishing the weak parts of that. You know. 0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:50.960 You know the first thing when we had him in 0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:52.520 here of the day, the first thing he said, I said, 0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:54.560 what you was that down to Florida? And you know, 0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:56.920 I know a guy down there and called himself gold Feet. 0:26:57.200 --> 0:27:00.199 He's on Instagram. Anybody out there listening, and you got 0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:02.240 kids and want to be a receiver, see him the 0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:03.720 gold feet down there for out of there. 0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:07.840 Yeah, I wish I had a parapet is the real deal. 0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:10.560 He regularly got some pretty good issues on it. 0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:13.720 It's crazy to me how young these guys are. Now 0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:16.920 it's another guy called it rock God. Uh Rock God 0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:18.840 is pretty good to He's another Florida guy. And you 0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:21.680 say where they're going at Florida that what we do 0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:24.639 down there? We cut grass down there to. 0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:27.639 Give tonight life was killing me. 0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:31.800 But that's the first thing, you know, Dotson talked about 0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:34.240 just going down there and putting the work in. That's 0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:37.399 what it's about, man, when you young. Look, I was 0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:39.680 scared of that we was gonna crown him too soon 0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:42.159 last year. How we talked so highly on Johan and 0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:43.359 I think he needed that season. 0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:45.080 He needed to be humble. I didn't want to see 0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:45.359 him go. 0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:48.239 Out there kind of your leg something to kind of say, 0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:48.639 hey man, you. 0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:50.720 Got to work with this thing bingo. So you know, 0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:53.159 I'm glad that you saw that that showed you that 0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:54.399 he went out Dan got. 0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:56.480 In the left it again. It's it's one rap, but 0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:58.120 it's something that we didn't see a lot of from 0:27:58.160 --> 0:27:59.520 last year. And you can tell that he's put some 0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:01.359 time in on it. And if there was one area 0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:03.479 that I thought his game was weak, it's dealing with 0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:05.600 you know, getting off pressed right and then dealing with 0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:06.359 contested catches. 0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:09.840 So I can say, and I didn't think he challenged 0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:12.159 it to peak of the ball and continuent like I 0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:14.159 thought his hands could be a lot stronger than they 0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:16.600 got because some guys receiver wise, we know if they 0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:18.960 touched the ball like this, I need to worry about. 0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:21.119 Now it's tackling, like I can't go through his arm 0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:22.720 because he ain't gonna he ain't gonna let me get 0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:23.480 that ball out of there. 0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:25.240 Yeah, So I guess what I'm saying is it was 0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:28.160 nice to see him a make a tough catch, really 0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:31.359 tough catch, and then be the release and like working 0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:33.880 that work in that element of craft. Yeah, but Johan 0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:36.520 looked awesome, all right, Not Johan, Jane looked awesome. And 0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:39.080 again it's the footwork, the timing. I mean, I feel 0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:42.080 like he's signaling concepts to be defenses. But then thing 0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:43.520 I want to talk about with you, Fred is like 0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:46.959 holy cow man, the defense and the personnel and their 0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:49.920 ability to kind of disguise coverages and then get to 0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:51.760 different stuff talking about how important like just. 0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:55.840 First of all, this did Joe with affect like I 0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:59.200 tell with corners are playing, Uh, it's just me by 0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:04.040 myself to survive survival mode. Then it's oh, in this defense, 0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:06.880 I get to I get to play some match Jedi 0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:09.280 mind tricks with this dude. And that's what I'm seeing 0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:11.040 with the defense. I see a move, I see a 0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:13.400 moving on what we call it moving on the screen. 0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:17.240 That mean we're moving together, like if my safety walking down. 0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:19.280 Sometimes these dudes are just like you talk about, like 0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:21.560 that's the old school everyone's on the show. Sometimes I 0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:23.520 feel like it's just like someone throwing marbles. 0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:25.440 Up the floor. You know what I'm saying. It's like, 0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:28.680 what are they doing? Organized chaos we call it. 0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:31.680 And when you got was like the Frankie Louvou out 0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:35.800 there and you gotta wagner that then played similar defenses 0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:37.560 to this and then you got you in. And the 0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:40.280 rest of these guys on the back end they understand 0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:46.000 I one, if I undress my coverage, we already beat two. 0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:47.520 If I don't know. 0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:50.440 How to hide these certain things, I can't play my 0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:52.440 Jedi mind tricks with you. If I'm on the out 0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:55.720 side with Taylor and I'm press bailing because I know 0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:57.520 I really in covered three but I really want to 0:29:57.520 --> 0:30:00.160 show make him think I'm in true man, I got 0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:01.600 to hold a prince like. 0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:04.520 But guess what, I also need my safety to hold 0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:05.160 in the middle. 0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:09.120 So it's these things where it's can I respect you 0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:10.720 to be where I need you to be in and 0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:11.760 can I be wasky for. 0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:13.640 That's like you see I'm over here, smile. 0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:17.120 It's music to my ears, bro, because I literally set 0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:20.200 in that press box we can and week out like 0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:22.240 you showing me this right now? 0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:24.280 You know what I mean. 0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:26.960 Like it was nothing to the disguise part of it. 0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:30.880 It was just like we're here self preservation. Come on, reservation, 0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:33.280 you know what I'm saying. So being in this league 0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:35.400 for so long, bro, you know how hard it was 0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:37.120 for me to beat in the line of scrimmers watching 0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:40.000 the defense and watching that safety trying to read what 0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:42.320 the hell he finna show me? And then pre snap 0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:44.240 read showed me one thing and the snap of the bottom 0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:46.520 they go fly out of there. I didn't see enough 0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:48.560 of that here, man, and I hated it. So I'm 0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:50.840 happy to hear you guys are seeing that. I'm happy 0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:53.680 that they're doing it because when you watch dan Quinn's 0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:57.480 defense over the years when he was in Seattle, you know, Atlanta, 0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:01.520 when you know the Dallas in those last three four years, Like, Bro, 0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:05.160 that's what you saw, even if they didn't have the 0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:06.480 best out there on the best. 0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:09.480 Yeah, the defense as a whole was rotted, you know 0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:09.960 what I'm saying. 0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:12.560 So you don't have to have these studs when you 0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:15.920 got a de de defense. Yes, everybody, you got a 0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:19.720 team that's playing on one unitses like when we want accord. 0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:22.760 Well that's a way to put that. Yeah, you just 0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:24.160 made me think of a couple of players that I 0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:27.000 thought were awesome. Like there was one where like it 0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:29.200 looked like I don't know the coverages, but it looked 0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:30.680 like box to me. You know, they got a bunch 0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:31.880 Tenna and they got that that. 0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:34.640 Box coverage and low two high corner takes the. 0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:36.280 First guy going out, It takes the first guy going in. 0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:38.360 And they had like a spot concept on where the 0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:39.880 guy would sit right in the middle of the box 0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:43.400 fastball right. But and so that's what I thought. I 0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:46.120 was like, this should be stealing. But then they rotated 0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:47.760 the safety down, they pushed out, they got in the 0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:49.960 cover two Tampa two in the red zone and it 0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:51.920 was enough where you take away the spot, you gotta 0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:53.080 double clutch the fence. 0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:53.920 Take the spot. 0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:55.520 And it was going to take away first and it 0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:58.160 was really subtle and it was pretty good and it 0:31:58.240 --> 0:31:59.680 was enough for I was like, that got. 0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:01.520 Them and you can tell it's one second to think. 0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:04.160 And then there was another one where Dominice Campton was 0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:06.480 lying up on the right and held the disguise and 0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:08.560 basically became the half safety to the left. 0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:12.000 Yeah, like talk about dropping marbles. Have to get there. 0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:14.160 And You're just like, I don't know how you knew that, 0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:17.320 but you said organize chaos. Like there's timeshe you're like, oh, 0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:19.960 like and when you're watching it, and again, this isn't 0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.440 just from me watching practice. This is like Dallas film. 0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:24.840 Is this? Yes, right, we look like we're in man 0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:26.760 over in Tampa touo oh, it looks like Cover three. Oh, 0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:28.600 we're in we're blitzing. We're in his own pressure. 0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:32.560 We cannot play fast on defense unless we all know 0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:35.640 what the real plan is. Like when we played for 0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:38.280 Greg Williams, it ain't no day we hit a field 0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:41.080 and we ain't know what our plan was. And I 0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:44.560 plan changes week by week, but I tell you what 0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:48.000 when we hit them green lines, we are on fire. 0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:50.400 And you can tell you and I can always tell 0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:52.000 a boy the energy of a defense. 0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:54.640 I can tell you because it's a group thing. Man. 0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:58.120 Like I know, on offense, y'all can sometimes be independent 0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:01.240 contractors in really blossom. I don't think we can do 0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:03.240 that on defense because I can't do no what that 0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:03.640 might be. 0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:06.320 Lie, definitely not to the extent like you have to 0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:08.440 know the concept especial running routes where you know, you 0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:09.840 know the run scheme and you have to fit in there. 0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:12.440 But you can you can put a little bit, Yeah 0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:15.680 you can. But I feel like if defense is not we're. 0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:17.720 Not all locked up, it's gonna fail. 0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:20.160 Defense is all it's to me. I think it's predicated 0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:23.760 on everybody's being on their guy being in there, playing, 0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:26.200 playing to read or reading reading write right, you know, 0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:29.239 I see so many guys watching them. I think it 0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:33.200 was miked up section they had on ESPN or somewhere. 0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:35.560 I saw it on Instagram where they had a kid 0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:37.560 talking to another kid, or they had they had a 0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:40.440 veteran talking to a kid, like, bro, let me know 0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:44.000 what you got going on because cut, yes, I'm telling 0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:46.200 you you ain't telling me nothing. I'm thinking, you're gonna 0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:47.960 play this guy and I'm. 0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:52.000 Information and such a frustrating Like I was so frustrating 0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:52.400 to watch. 0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:54.320 Yeah, because you knew the young kid was in his 0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:56.480 feelings and this guy's trying to tell him like, bro, 0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:57.800 like I'm just trying to communicate. 0:33:57.840 --> 0:34:00.360 Well, here's this old head, like I'm trying to help you. 0:34:00.400 --> 0:34:02.200 I'm to help you, help me yea yeah, And you're 0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:04.480 just like I remember having the same conversation with like 0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:06.520 offensive lineman. You know, like you're in the third or 0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:09.320 fourth preseason game. You're playing against somebody's not maybe not 0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:10.799 gonna make the team. You're trying to make the team, 0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:14.439 and you're like like, listen to what I'm saying. Yeah, 0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:17.000 I played for eight years. You're a rookie, like trust 0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:19.560 me or do what I say. And some of those 0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:21.960 guys and it just makes you because you like I 0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:23.560 felt I felt for that guy and the Metro guy, 0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:25.640 I felt for him because I was like, you might 0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:27.960 not make the team because this guy screwed him over that. 0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:31.080 Simple stuff like if my wide receiver off the ball, 0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:33.040 the first thing I do is alert my lineback and 0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:33.799 watch for that crack. 0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:35.440 I don't know if he's gonna crack. I just know 0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:36.399 he ails with a move. 0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:39.480 Now when he starts to move going back into the court, 0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.200 if I ain't laying, if I ain't saying, crack that 0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:46.040 linebacker never turning it in, never turning, and now guess what, 0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:49.320 he gets cracked by the wide receiver I got to replace. 0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:52.200 So now I'm taking on the top sweep by myself. Well, 0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:54.239 I just stopped from taking on their top sweep by 0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:56.680 myself by just alerting a simple crack call. 0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:59.440 And they go to things that the communication. 0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:02.160 Communication is key, mate. I think that's just one of 0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:05.680 the things that stands out when you have a defense 0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:08.359 that's playing on one accord, when you have that down pack, 0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:10.840 then were all gonna go out here and be successful 0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:12.640 and not going to just be on one guy because 0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:13.640 we all know what's going on. 0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:16.760 Yeah. So two things. One, this is like super nerdy 0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:18.239 question and I don't I don't really know what you're 0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:20.480 gonna answer. Is do you keep track of other people's 0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:23.400 OTA's like when you're reading media tipmits or does it 0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:25.640 not matter? Because sometimes I find myself being like, oh, 0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:28.160 blik Davis had a touchdown in OTA practice. 0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:30.080 I do you want to see it. 0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:32.000 I just want to see It doesn't really matter if 0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:34.239 it doesn't matter, but if you love football, you just 0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:35.600 want to see what's going on. 0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:38.239 Often say, with social media, I do more than I 0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:38.719 did before. 0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:39.840 I wouldn't. 0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:42.920 I wouldn't go online looking social media. You can basically 0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:46.000 go and type in Carolina, type in whatever team it is, 0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:47.440 and see they little clip. 0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:49.760 So I do that way and again, like it doesn't 0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:51.680 really matter, but it's also it kind of just gets 0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:52.200 you excited. 0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:58.319 You know, this time of year, everybody's bubbling. Everybody got 0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:02.040 a change out thirty two way the super Bowl, and 0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:04.200 it's that time where it ain't a lot of news. 0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:05.879 So therefore, if. 0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:08.120 We get any news, Je Daniels just dropped the eighty 0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:12.120 yard touchdown. Whoa, Like everybody's cheering for that, dude, Like, 0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:15.080 come on, you don't think people in Minnesota going crazy 0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:17.960 over JJ mccartty every time he completes the pass, Like 0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:21.239 it's that time, right, So I expect it to be 0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:24.319 that way. But also, this is the time championships are won. 0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:26.920 To me, this is when teams come together together. I 0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:32.080 can always tell, like I'm hearing out of Cincinnati Jamon Chase, 0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:38.160 not in the building, Higgins, not in the buildings, contract disputes. 0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:41.640 They made it to that point, like they paid their quarterback. 0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:46.040 Now that the roster getting tightened to keep together. So 0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:48.839 you know, it's good and bad all over the league 0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:49.160 right now. 0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:50.640 I want to think as much as we want to 0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:53.960 tell the fans to kind of you know, I guess 0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:57.120 you could say, pump the brakes on getting too far 0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:59.960 ahead of yourself. It's also, you know, the fans is 0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:02.000 just like how we were back in the day. It's 0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:05.240 a different time. Back in the day football came in July, 0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:07.480 it was already training camp. You know, we didn't have 0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:10.480 an ESPN to watch, We didn't have a social media 0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:10.879 to watch. 0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:12.080 Football season was in. 0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:15.000 We was playing, and it was there was sure a clipping. 0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:17.920 It's gone for two weeks, you know, until they play 0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:20.279 that preseason game. Now it's every days something to look 0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:22.920 about this year round. You can't you can't help but 0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:25.160 allow them to have that kind of joy that they 0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:25.839 have for their team. 0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:28.680 And everybody liked the new toys, new shiny toy. They 0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:31.200 don't want to know about the old children vent. Nobody 0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:34.759 want to know about Logan. Tell me about Daniel like, we. 0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:37.759 Don't know, they don't know any information about it, not 0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:38.680 in this uniform. 0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:41.880 Absolutely so again and then this is something I'm curious 0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:43.080 because I don't know how you guys, because it was 0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:45.000 a little different era. How did you guys treat O 0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:47.359 t as like when you were playing? Like was it 0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:49.359 like was it were you like fit ready to go? 0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:51.040 Or were you getting shot? 0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:53.680 It depends on which O t A it is. If 0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:56.719 it's their first eight O t A. Some guys are 0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:58.759 be in shape, but not the best shape they're gonna 0:37:58.800 --> 0:37:59.080 be in. 0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:02.719 Yeah, I was too naive to not know what to do. 0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:08.400 Get the gate out the gate. I kind of, you know, 0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:11.919 blame that a little bit my injury, but I kind 0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:13.799 of came in ready, you know what I mean. And 0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:15.480 then from there I was like, Okay, it's good to 0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:17.640 be ready, you know. But when I saw the guys 0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:19.719 out there falling by the wayside and throwing up and 0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:22.239 can't make the little runs we had, I said, I 0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:24.000 don't ever want to feel like that. And then later 0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:26.200 in my career I took a break because I had 0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:27.560 them played so much, Yeah. 0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:29.000 Too much football I had. 0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:30.880 I had, I had my I had a couple of 0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:33.440 runners who had worked for my agent, was like, you 0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:36.600 you're always in that gym man, just this rest and 0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:39.359 I rest, and I wasn't myself. I'm like, see, I'm 0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:41.680 just not you. Bro. I got to keep knowing I do, 0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:46.520 so I prepared to be going full throttle. Come ot. 0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:48.439 I don't want to have to be getting into the mode. 0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:48.600 You know. 0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:50.799 And you always had a new quarterback O TA, so 0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:52.919 you needed to get their relationship. 0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:56.640 Together in the quarterback new offense. I had so much 0:38:56.680 --> 0:38:58.239 going on, Bro, I saw it all, you know. 0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:00.120 Yeah, but I think everyone here is like, oh yeah, oh, 0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:03.359 it's optional team activity. Like I don't remember ever missing one, 0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:05.600 not coming in and being like one hundred percent rate. 0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:07.360 I'm always there. I'm always gonna be there. 0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:10.720 It starts. It's gonna sound crazy, but it's it starts 0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:13.719 the coaches evaluation process. And as much as they say, oh, 0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:16.200 it doesn't matter, Like I remember watching dudes who weren't fit, 0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:18.520 and they weren't fit for three or four practices, three 0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:20.439 or four weeks of practice, so probably like ten total 0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:23.240 practices and they just haven't put good stuff on film, 0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:25.719 so they reshuffle the depth chart. They're the fourth guy. 0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:27.719 You're the third guy. All of a sudden, you go 0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:29.239 to training camp and then you make the team and 0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:31.360 they it's just it's part of the piece. So just 0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:32.080 to always be ready. 0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:34.080 I think it's to going away and coming backpoint. 0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:36.000 And I think that's why it never bothered me because 0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:39.000 unlike a lot of players, I didn't leave in the summer. 0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:40.839 This was home for them. 0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:43.719 So I think it's the traveling too, because you go, 0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:47.080 you give yourself two weeks to take off. Your wife 0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:50.160 probably demanded some times. You gave you the most of 0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:52.560 the year. So I think that then when you pop 0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:54.840 out of it, then it's right back into this. I 0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:58.800 think this the thing that mentally kind of chatted his players. 0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:00.640 Most of the guys who have it, who have it, 0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:03.799 have a good routine. They have a cutoff. And I 0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:06.239 think I had a great routine. I knew if I 0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:09.680 went in the playoffs or if I got other playoffs 0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:12.720 something fast, I'm going home getting all that out my system. 0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:16.120 Come April seventeenth, whatever they say that that report day 0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:20.480 my birthday, I'm gonna be ready because February third or second, 0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:22.919 or whenever the Fluper Bowl is overwhe that's my first 0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:24.919 day of getting back in shape. So when that's who 0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:27.360 Bowl's done, I'm back to grinding. And so by the 0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:30.000 time I hit April seventeen, when they say reporting day, 0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:32.360 I'm ready. So you know, you got to have a 0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:35.040 routine because you want to enjoy your off time too. 0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:38.120 And when I got here, it was better that way 0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:40.400 because I was comfortable with coming up here when I 0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:42.120 didn't have to be here. You understaying. When I was 0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:43.759 in New York, I didn't he hated New York. I 0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:45.440 didn't want to see New York until I had to 0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:48.600 be there. And but nah, man, but it's all about 0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:50.799 being a professional, and you you learned that over the years. 0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:52.840 You learn it over time. April seventeen one of the 0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:55.880 best days ever. You know, this day I was birthed, 0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:57.400 Santanna Mama was birthed. 0:40:57.719 --> 0:40:59.320 It's to day Game of Throne started. 0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:02.560 Good day. It's a good day. I got kind of 0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:04.120 a mess up story about being in shape. Do you 0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:06.840 remember in thirteen we had that conditioning test where we 0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:08.880 had to run a half gasser and then we had 0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:13.120 to plank. Yes, So I remember Old ray Wright was like, guys, 0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:16.000 you know, we're getting ready for tomorrow for first practices. 0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:17.960 The day after this. So if you guys feel like 0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:19.919 you can't finish, just tap out. We don't want anyone 0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:22.319 pull any hamshrinks something like that. I was like, that 0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:27.320 is the trap. That's a trap. Everyone paying attention probably 0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:29.480 was being serious. But I'll tell you two people that 0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:31.839 was this is a hard that was a hard condition. Yeah. 0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:32.120 I remember. 0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:33.880 My back was created up enrichment. 0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:34.960 Yeah. And it was hot. 0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:35.799 Yeah, so it was. 0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:38.439 It was just it was eight down in backs, right, 0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:40.800 but in between you had to make it in fifteen 0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:45.479 fourteen seconds was much light. Yeah, yeah, it was like twelve. 0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:47.120 I was like fifteen, which is fast for me. And 0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:49.400 then he had you had forty five second plank and 0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:50.920 you had to get up and run your next one. 0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:52.759 So there was no like rest, You're just running the 0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:55.279 whole time. And so thank god I finished. You know, 0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:57.000 my hamstrings all time, my back is all time. But 0:41:57.040 --> 0:41:59.720 I finished. Two people didn't finish. Two people got. 0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:03.120 Cut, that's how. And they're softened to. 0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:06.200 Blow and tell you, you know, don't worry, do not worry 0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:07.480 just because you can't play here. 0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:08.720 It's thirty one more team. 0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:11.600 Hey, it's funny though, I remember because it's like, well 0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:12.799 that's year thirteen for me. 0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:14.520 And I remember running mind and I'm being in. 0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:16.719 The front and I don't know what was black or 0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:20.560 was this Chad, but he was like, Tanner, come on, man, 0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:22.160 you're embarrassing these people out here. 0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:23.919 So I'm like, bro, I'm just standing in the pack. 0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:26.359 I'm just trying to make sure you're trying to Yeah, 0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:28.720 you a calling me out because I'm in the front, 0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:30.640 like you want me to be in the back. But 0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:33.160 it's just funny because like they play those Jedi mind 0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:35.359 tricks with you just to see where you're at mint, 0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:37.840 you know what I mean, see and see it's okay, 0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:41.040 good enough for you bingo And man, look man, I 0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:43.239 never took that stuff for granted, Like I just told 0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:45.120 you that was your thirteen for me competing with these 0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:47.359 all these young bucks. I'm up there leading the pack, 0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:49.040 but I never wanted to be first. I wanted to 0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:49.760 be right. 0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:50.359 There to stand. 0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:53.399 I wanted that second and third, you know when when 0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:55.800 that last one hit, that last one was always. 0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:58.040 They need to understand after the conditioning test, we are 0:42:58.160 --> 0:43:02.400 just laying scattered on the grass like y'all need to understand. 0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:05.680 Y'all understand like we only had like thirteen the d 0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.600 d's and wide out. Every time we look at our time, 0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:10.840 we don't even I tried not to even look like. 0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:13.120 We're gonna do like three gas. I was like, we 0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:16.960 probably got due hours and what ten cent? Come on this. 0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:19.600 Some of those receiver times were three strides. 0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:22.520 You already say I'm late. Yeah, and you can feel 0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:23.120 your number. 0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:26.120 You're like, nut this line and come back knocks. 0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:32.200 Want no wild story talking about like Trent Williams. Remember Trent. 0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:35.319 I remember one day he was like messing around and 0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:37.120 someone was talking messed him. He's like, I'll run the 0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:40.840 receiver times and I was like, no, no, And Trent 0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:44.680 made every receiver time so half gasser twelve and a 0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:47.160 half seconds. That man weigh three hundred thirty pounds. Yeah, 0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:49.640 it was like a deer. And I was like looking 0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:51.480 out of the corner of my eye like, oh my god. 0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:53.480 I'm not gonna make it anything now. 0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:55.799 Then I tell people the big dudes in the league 0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:58.160 are not fat, Like when you see that fat dude 0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:00.480 in the grocery store and wig, he was like he 0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:02.080 could have played for No, he couldn't. 0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:05.919 He can't run, he can't move, he can't move. 0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:08.160 So at the end of the day. These are big men, 0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:10.960 big athletic, they have to like fight to keep with 0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:12.600 this three hundred pounds on them. 0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:14.640 I think people just see him and be like, yeah, 0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:17.279 he probably could have played six six three. No, your 0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:20.600 uncle stinks. Due up to me to tell you that. 0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:22.920 The other one that was crazy so Trent obviously very 0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:24.520 fast and athletic. I remember he got in a fight 0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:27.480 with a defensive tackle, big old defensive tackle. I think 0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:29.960 it was uh. I forget how he was. I remember 0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:32.000 him being like three hundred and sixty five pounds, and 0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:33.560 so I got in there trying to break it up, 0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:35.120 you know what I mean. Yeah, And it felt like 0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:36.759 I was trying to break up a fight between my 0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:39.200 dad and somebody else. I just I couldn't get my 0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:42.399 I was just like, oh god, and I'm a I'm 0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:44.319 not a small person, you know what I'm saying. But 0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:46.160 I remember coming out of there, I was like, man, 0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:50.120 my elbow, herst, my fingers hurt. 0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:51.919 Like we had a big browl. Yeah. 0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:54.200 See this he before ten, the guy he had. I 0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:57.520 think we was called the Jet Skins. We signed everybody 0:44:57.600 --> 0:45:01.800 from the Randy Tummys als. He and pretty Boy, Chad 0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:04.560 Boy and I'll never forget. It was like the second 0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:09.520 practice and he talked Chad a sweep or something, and 0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:11.200 don't I think he was trying not to go out 0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:14.440 of boughs and be kind of like almost cut me low. 0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:17.800 Oh no, you ain't gonna do that. We didn't. 0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:20.480 We didn't got him like like a twenty person's. 0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:22.640 Braw hole out there. And listen, I'm at the bottom 0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:29.480 of it. I think to stay alive, you understand. You 0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:32.120 know what's funny and funny about that. 0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:36.000 Everywhere Chad went bro he had these kind of in 0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:39.200 the jazz bro Listen, I love Chad. He was he 0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:42.480 was returning slash part returning like me, and but it 0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:43.640 just was something about him. 0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:45.520 He was. He was booge. 0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:48.600 He was confident, but he was a different type of guy. 0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:52.239 Like if you had to compare Chad, I would I 0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:57.080 would say this is probably how the industry looked at Prince. Yes, 0:45:57.200 --> 0:46:01.560 a pretty guy, yes, but Prince was not pressed about 0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:03.600 his business pressle put hands on you, not. 0:46:03.719 --> 0:46:06.759 This Chad with But Chad will fight. Chad will fight. 0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:09.960 I'm just saying, like Tom down through that, I'm just saying, 0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:11.160 like the Chad I knew. 0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:14.000 From the Jets because he's so strong, always gotta tried, 0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:16.040 but he was ready, you know what I'm saying. But 0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:17.040 he was a pretty dude. 0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:20.560 But he would come in the locker room and look 0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:21.839 at the ugly dude that just. 0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:28.520 Then I'd be like, Chad, did you get your eyebrows? 0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:32.279 Arch? Yes? Like then he walked in. 0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:38.239 With this this essence did you he had about you 0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:39.520 know what I mean? Like it was just like when 0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:42.520 he walked in the room, like his presence was felt 0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:43.640 and it wasn't. 0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:49.840 A good good because you got all the clothes fully 0:46:49.920 --> 0:46:50.839 dressed in a suit. 0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:57.200 And his brother, Johnny mord ain't nothing like him, only 0:46:57.280 --> 0:46:57.879 different dude. 0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:02.279 Johnny. Johnny was mm a fight after he's damn all right, 0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:06.799 Yeah it is probably, but look, don't get me your 0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:11.960 own I he smooth, but Chad to fight, you. 0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:13.200 Weak out of me. 0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:15.640 So the ones that were always like the coldest, for 0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:18.239 guys that didn't say anything. It was just like, oh, 0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:19.759 it's like it's happening. 0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:20.680 It's our own dude. 0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:23.960 I remember like Niles Noiles now was my guy, one 0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:26.200 of my favorite teammates of all time. I remember like 0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:28.279 anytime he'd be like, we're gonna fight, you know, and 0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:30.080 like it was like, oh, come on and now just 0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:32.520 be like and it's his hands on the face mask, 0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:34.960 like there was no like oh, like no posture. It 0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:36.880 was like we're fighting and the guys like, no, we're not. 0:47:36.920 --> 0:47:38.680 It was like, oh, check me out. 0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:42.000 See some of them fight. That can't be broken up 0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:46.880 because we had one with LeVar and another of man 0:47:46.960 --> 0:47:49.560 a lad Back. It's crazy though I couldn't break it up. 0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:51.160 The thing I don't get is like sometimes they get 0:47:51.200 --> 0:47:52.600 their hands on each other and you're trying to break 0:47:52.600 --> 0:47:54.080 them up and then someone will grab you and it 0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:56.359 just turns into this and we just dragging each other. 0:47:56.480 --> 0:47:58.239 Four texts of dragging people around. 0:47:58.280 --> 0:48:01.000 It's all kind of PREDI like, w W had. 0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:03.120 This, They had this whole this. I don't know this. 0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:04.279 It was like a folk tale. 0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:06.480 But we got to fight with that. 0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:10.279 This guy, Casey Jones for the University of Miami thing. 0:48:10.239 --> 0:48:11.840 He was a big time lineman. 0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:15.520 I'm not sure if I'm saying a name right for 0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:19.560 the story. His his whotel was got ready to fight 0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:22.480 somebody and he just grabbed his face mask and gripped 0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:24.520 it off his damn helmet and they were like the 0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:25.160 fight was over. 0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:35.160 They say more the coaches than everybody was like stopped everybody. 0:48:36.760 --> 0:48:37.640 Do you remember Doug. 0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:40.200 Worthington did that you're here, you're here with that. So 0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:42.040 there was a big fight, like everyone was on each 0:48:42.040 --> 0:48:44.680 other and there was a backup center Mike, I think 0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:47.799 Mike McGlinchey, Mike something like that and little kind of 0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:51.680 squatty you know, like dirty offensive lineman. And Doug was 0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:55.480 just this adonis. He's six six, he's three thirty. He 0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:57.839 carries around a suitcase full of vitamins with him at 0:48:57.840 --> 0:49:01.279 all times, so he looks like a just look like 0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:04.600 a door. So he grabs Mike's face mask and just 0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:06.040 I'm talking kind of. 0:49:06.280 --> 0:49:09.080 Just shears, shears the screws. 0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:10.920 Like didn't pull the screws out of the fitting, like 0:49:11.200 --> 0:49:15.440 the metal screw was sheared. And then in the meeting, 0:49:15.840 --> 0:49:18.520 our guy Jay was like, hey, Doug, just remember there's 0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:19.400 a pissed us on Monday. 0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:23.439 So oh, Derek Gordon was like that. But just there's 0:49:23.520 --> 0:49:25.640 dudes that, just some dudes dudes that. 0:49:25.800 --> 0:49:28.439 Hey, you know what, I'm a lover, not a fight. 0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:31.000 Sometimes you got to be like you know what, not now, 0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:35.200 not never, not ever, not with you. You got murdered. 0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:36.719 That's why he moved in my house and I cooked 0:49:36.719 --> 0:49:37.799 breakfast for him. Everything right. 0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:40.359 And then all these names got me thinking. We were 0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:43.800 talking about last week, we were talking about NB NBA, NFL. 0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:46.359 Who could do both. I'm still staunchly in the camp 0:49:46.400 --> 0:49:48.120 that I don't think any NFL players could play. 0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:49.640 In the end. And I think you, I know you, 0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:50.400 I know you. 0:49:51.040 --> 0:49:52.800 You're also very confident. But what I thought would be 0:49:52.800 --> 0:49:54.399 a good idea, Jason thought would be a good idea. 0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:59.439 Let's make a team of guys that we think could 0:49:59.520 --> 0:50:01.440 play that played in the NFL. Yeah, they could play 0:50:01.480 --> 0:50:03.440 in the NBA. We're gonna make our starting five plus 0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:05.919 a bonus man with six so point guard, shooting guard, 0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:08.200 small forward, power forward, center. And I think it'd be 0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:10.400 good if we did a commander's team and then maybe 0:50:10.520 --> 0:50:14.400 an NFL team. You know what I'm saying. So I 0:50:14.480 --> 0:50:16.560 know what, friends, I don't even have to see Fred's paper. 0:50:17.360 --> 0:50:18.960 I was gonna say, who's gonna be your point guard? 0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:23.080 That's a stupid question. I was gonna say me, all right, Russell. 0:50:24.320 --> 0:50:26.880 Russell Curry is what they call because I'm an athlete 0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:30.359 like Russell, but I shoot like stiff Russell Curry at 0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:31.440 the point guard, and I'm. 0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:33.319 A well in a half, this was not gonna well 0:50:33.480 --> 0:50:34.319 one slash too. 0:50:34.400 --> 0:50:36.920 I got Randy Well that's my point going. Oh I 0:50:37.000 --> 0:50:39.600 like that played he played in college and guess it 0:50:39.719 --> 0:50:42.880 was Yeah, No, he played in Indiana. You remember I 0:50:42.880 --> 0:50:44.799 told you I was going to Indiana When I went 0:50:44.880 --> 0:50:48.960 for my trip. It was a dual trip football basketball, 0:50:49.239 --> 0:50:50.920 and guess who was playing on both teams? 0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:53.440 Then Rady Leo was the point guard and the quarterback. 0:50:53.480 --> 0:50:55.680 And I was gonna be able to play Why receive 0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:57.000 Wacona and basketball? 0:50:58.280 --> 0:50:59.520 X randle You know he a man? 0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:02.120 Why is everything he says sounds like he's making it up. 0:51:02.520 --> 0:51:09.240 I'm not. I'm not. I went to Bloomington on a trip. 0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:10.480 Okay, all right? 0:51:10.960 --> 0:51:12.080 So who is who? You? 0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:12.200 No? 0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:13.520 I got? I got a question for it. If there's 0:51:13.560 --> 0:51:15.640 someone who could play point guard in the NFL right now, 0:51:15.680 --> 0:51:18.080 like you're like this dude could play like right now, Yeah, 0:51:18.120 --> 0:51:20.480 if there's a guy that like circle him, you could 0:51:20.520 --> 0:51:21.040 do it. 0:51:21.120 --> 0:51:26.879 All right? See I ain't he's saying point god, point god, like. 0:51:26.840 --> 0:51:29.200 I'm thinking like, well, like Sauce Gardner, like somebody like that, 0:51:29.239 --> 0:51:29.960 like kind of that build. 0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:31.680 You know what I'm saying, I think would be a two. 0:51:31.920 --> 0:51:34.520 Okay, but he's sixty three, I know it. 0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:37.120 But he got that lymp that like he'll be a 0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:41.600 jump shooter point guard. It's gonna have to be a quarterback. 0:51:41.880 --> 0:51:44.919 Like most time it's a shroud. Have you ever seen 0:51:44.920 --> 0:51:46.320 Pat Mahons play basketball? 0:51:47.520 --> 0:51:51.440 Plaid out hoop? Really plaid out hoop. 0:51:51.800 --> 0:51:56.440 But I'm saying, and it looks just like his football. 0:51:56.760 --> 0:51:59.640 He's out there. Why couldn't listen. 0:52:00.400 --> 0:52:02.920 The way the way he's making shots, Like it's like 0:52:02.960 --> 0:52:05.120 you mean, like crossing people. 0:52:06.160 --> 0:52:09.080 Hey, I think Geno Schmiel probably can hoop. Yeah, he 0:52:09.200 --> 0:52:11.719 looks like a thing hoop dude. 0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:13.200 The Mahomes thingers wild to me, though. 0:52:13.440 --> 0:52:15.799 Mahomes can hoop. Crowd like he can hoop. 0:52:15.960 --> 0:52:18.359 Now, Mahomes a great point guard. I saw Mahomes play 0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:19.640 pickup game in the off season. 0:52:19.719 --> 0:52:22.719 I saw him playing high school and I felt like, yeah, 0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:23.720 he could did. 0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:25.560 It all right. So now we're on the shooting guards 0:52:25.719 --> 0:52:27.440 for the Commanders. 0:52:26.800 --> 0:52:28.919 Can I'm gonna go I'm gonna go with d Hall. 0:52:29.400 --> 0:52:31.160 I can say he was on my paper the hawk 0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:33.680 and hoop, Yeah, I mean the holle hoop all the 0:52:33.719 --> 0:52:34.360 time in lifetime. 0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:35.840 He's a great athlete. 0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:38.480 No, he can hoop. But I'm taking Jason Campbell. 0:52:38.680 --> 0:52:40.120 Go d holl it's a two. 0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:43.200 Jason. Jason is sixty five always. 0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:47.480 Jason had a basketball Scotch Ship coming out of Mississippi. 0:52:46.880 --> 0:52:49.040 When we were younger. He was a three three. 0:52:48.880 --> 0:52:51.880 Star and d hall of Malcolm Kelly. Malcolm Kelly was 0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:56.160 Malcolm Kelly. Yes, macom Kelly hoop. 0:52:56.239 --> 0:52:58.200 See that's the thing with me. I would say Jordan 0:52:58.280 --> 0:52:59.640 Reid for my two. 0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:02.360 Jordan he had my three. 0:53:02.800 --> 0:53:04.560 That's my small dude. I just think I want him 0:53:04.600 --> 0:53:05.319 touching the ball more. 0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:09.359 Yeah, you know, he definitely in basketball term, he had 0:53:09.440 --> 0:53:11.200 to be a two because he's not as tall as 0:53:11.640 --> 0:53:13.600 he would be in the but but he's strong. 0:53:13.719 --> 0:53:15.160 He he's strong. 0:53:15.239 --> 0:53:17.480 But the other thing is everybody that I played with 0:53:17.520 --> 0:53:19.600 said they could play basketball, and he's the only one 0:53:19.600 --> 0:53:22.520 that could actually Like, Yeah, he played hoop. So he's 0:53:22.520 --> 0:53:24.160 gonna be on my He's on my list, my small 0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:25.439 four on my list for sure. 0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:29.120 But I'm small around the league. Who got basketball. 0:53:30.719 --> 0:53:32.520 Around the league? Who we got for a two guards. 0:53:32.800 --> 0:53:33.439 Around the league? 0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:39.720 Now, I got your boy, DK metcow. 0:53:38.840 --> 0:53:42.719 Hoop y'all play him five, Garrett, he just so he is. 0:53:43.080 --> 0:53:43.520 He is. 0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:44.560 Show my. 0:53:46.680 --> 0:53:50.160 DK of t O t used to play basketball. 0:53:50.239 --> 0:53:52.880 Now t could flat out hoop and DK and most 0:53:52.880 --> 0:53:55.439 doing a J Brown, a JJ Brown. 0:53:55.440 --> 0:53:57.560 I was just say Julio Jones, like when I was 0:53:57.560 --> 0:54:00.160 with him in Atlanta, Dude, that guy is just you 0:54:00.200 --> 0:54:01.439 can jump, you can run. 0:54:01.520 --> 0:54:03.960 You know who could do all that too, Odell Beckham, 0:54:05.000 --> 0:54:05.719 Yeah he can. 0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:07.960 Randy Mouse to Randy get fled out? 0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:11.680 Yeah, yeah, I like that Randy Moss. Yeah that'd be sick. Yeah, 0:54:11.719 --> 0:54:13.000 all right, small forward who we got? 0:54:13.440 --> 0:54:15.960 I got Trent Trent. So I thought Trent maybe be 0:54:15.960 --> 0:54:18.799 power forward. See I thought so too for us. He's 0:54:18.800 --> 0:54:21.279 a power forward. But if you put him against a 0:54:21.320 --> 0:54:24.480 basketball guy six four, they'll be so much bigger than him. 0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:26.600 And get him down there in the paint. 0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:27.279 He gonna be big. Baby. 0:54:27.360 --> 0:54:30.360 Dave is in the paint now, he can move stand, 0:54:30.400 --> 0:54:33.000 but he'll be shorter than the average like John Barker. 0:54:33.080 --> 0:54:35.879 But let's get him. Let's we're gonna play positionless football here. 0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:38.200 We got to right were positions of basketball. We're gonna 0:54:38.200 --> 0:54:39.560 spread them out, but we need somebody in there to 0:54:39.560 --> 0:54:41.520 bang around a lot did you imagine him and like 0:54:41.560 --> 0:54:45.440 Victor webbin Yama, like he'll be pushing Victor after what 0:54:45.520 --> 0:54:47.839 I'm saying. Victor webban Yama's arms are like as long 0:54:47.840 --> 0:54:48.399 as this room. 0:54:48.520 --> 0:54:49.280 Yeah, understand. 0:54:49.320 --> 0:54:53.799 It's like I understanding, Rob Gartner, My whole boy got 0:54:53.880 --> 0:54:54.440 dreaded with up. 0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:57.280 Oh he can hoop. He might couldn't catch a football. 0:54:59.239 --> 0:55:03.759 Let me tell you, no, he just won the amazing race. 0:55:04.200 --> 0:55:07.160 He's built like a picture of him. 0:55:07.160 --> 0:55:07.719 And I was like, this. 0:55:08.440 --> 0:55:11.320 Actually had a thousand yard season, our second in the league. 0:55:11.360 --> 0:55:16.280 So he he he had a system where they started 0:55:16.280 --> 0:55:18.600 feeding other people and he and it's kind of his 0:55:19.160 --> 0:55:21.760 history direct every thing that he mo joan. 0:55:21.920 --> 0:55:23.799 But Rob Gardner can flat out who what. 0:55:23.760 --> 0:55:25.800 About around the league? I was thinking, like Calvin Johnson 0:55:25.880 --> 0:55:26.400 or something like that. 0:55:27.280 --> 0:55:31.319 Okay, Calvin gent make like this. Every receiver it was 0:55:31.320 --> 0:55:35.080 played for Detroit, Roy we call him all. 0:55:35.560 --> 0:55:39.160 I remember one time I played against Detroit and Charles 0:55:39.239 --> 0:55:43.200 Rogers was the slot receive at six y four, really. 0:55:42.960 --> 0:55:45.520 Getting Roy William were six wives, give me your boy, 0:55:46.640 --> 0:55:48.640 go ahead, finish Roy six fives. 0:55:48.640 --> 0:55:51.000 So they had like all these talk first round picks 0:55:51.000 --> 0:55:52.960 now huge wide receivers. 0:55:53.160 --> 0:55:56.120 I think Dez Bryant could be a give me good basketball, 0:55:56.120 --> 0:55:56.840 give me Gates. 0:55:58.840 --> 0:56:01.360 That's easy, Tony, cause say, let me just go getting 0:56:01.400 --> 0:56:05.560 Zola's dead, Jim, don't. 0:56:05.360 --> 0:56:09.440 Forget about the d N North Carolina Pepper. 0:56:09.440 --> 0:56:13.080 What are we doing? He's gonna be yes, people's in there. 0:56:13.160 --> 0:56:16.880 I also say, you know, I would have said Andre Johnson, 0:56:17.080 --> 0:56:19.080 but small four, I probably put him more of a 0:56:19.120 --> 0:56:23.040 shooting guard. Andre Johnson, Yeah, he went to high school 0:56:23.080 --> 0:56:25.920 to play basketball. His high school was His high school 0:56:25.960 --> 0:56:28.000 was a team that won national championship in Miami, like 0:56:28.000 --> 0:56:29.920 almost every year they had U d there. They had 0:56:29.960 --> 0:56:33.040 a lot of guys that went pro and and Dre 0:56:33.200 --> 0:56:35.040 was there as a basketball player. At the football coach 0:56:35.040 --> 0:56:36.719 they come out for the football team, so he never 0:56:36.760 --> 0:56:37.799 practiced with the football team. 0:56:38.480 --> 0:56:40.840 Ward, Oh yeah, sure, Ward. 0:56:41.000 --> 0:56:45.440 I take Runner Curry about like Runner Currell was a 0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:47.040 bigger recruit than Michael Vick. 0:56:47.160 --> 0:56:49.880 When they came out of Virginia. Yes, run a Curry. 0:56:50.000 --> 0:56:52.760 See whist thing about Michael Vick. He was not highly 0:56:52.840 --> 0:56:55.040 sought out coming out of high school. But by the 0:56:55.080 --> 0:56:58.960 time he got and played in college. Who is this? 0:57:00.200 --> 0:57:01.040 Who is this kid? 0:57:01.200 --> 0:57:03.360 All right? So small forward, we're gonna run out of 0:57:03.360 --> 0:57:05.880 people here, No, not really, but turn to fill a 0:57:05.960 --> 0:57:07.239 roster power Ford. Who we got? 0:57:07.360 --> 0:57:08.560 I got LeVar Arrington? 0:57:09.160 --> 0:57:11.680 Really tell me why who? First of all, if I 0:57:11.760 --> 0:57:12.000 got a. 0:57:12.000 --> 0:57:14.120 Forty Plusch's vertical and you know he's six thrill, you 0:57:14.160 --> 0:57:17.880 got LeVar Arrington. I got my man Abraham from John 0:57:18.200 --> 0:57:21.240 Johnny Abraham. Yeah, the Jets, from the Jets, Old Joe 0:57:21.360 --> 0:57:22.960 playing in Atlanta with you too. I think he was 0:57:23.040 --> 0:57:23.720 done by that time. 0:57:23.840 --> 0:57:27.200 What about Drake Hall Just what about Drake Cotty? I 0:57:27.240 --> 0:57:34.240 think Hoop just ain't got it? Got it boy? You 0:57:34.280 --> 0:57:35.880 know he's tall enough, but he ain't. 0:57:36.240 --> 0:57:39.320 Like yeah, Like, it's just so hard because this position 0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:42.200 in the NBA is such a unique body type. You 0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:43.360 know what I'm saying. It's like you need a guy 0:57:43.360 --> 0:57:44.920 who's like six seven, but. 0:57:45.080 --> 0:57:48.000 Get what go against the norm Charles Barkleys against the noise. 0:57:48.280 --> 0:57:51.160 But Baby Davids, we're. 0:57:51.000 --> 0:57:53.800 Not saying we're not in this whole debate that these 0:57:53.840 --> 0:57:56.280 guys can go and play. We're just saying this is 0:57:56.280 --> 0:57:57.720 the team we would make. So I just want to 0:57:57.720 --> 0:57:59.720 get that clip before you, Oh you think those guys 0:57:59.760 --> 0:58:01.200 because you know, get a little that. 0:58:01.240 --> 0:58:03.240 But but I remember when I first got in the league. 0:58:03.440 --> 0:58:06.160 We used to the NFC East used to meet and 0:58:06.280 --> 0:58:08.960 hoop in the summer time, and we used to do 0:58:09.000 --> 0:58:13.160 it all the time in Dallas. So we used to 0:58:13.200 --> 0:58:16.640 literally go edit man like all the time, and guys 0:58:16.680 --> 0:58:18.520 could way better than you thought they could. 0:58:18.640 --> 0:58:20.080 I don't know if I played with anybody who would 0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:24.960 be like a good power forward uh Fred Johnson, b 0:58:25.160 --> 0:58:28.360 J Brad Johnson. I want to say, like Miles Garrett 0:58:28.360 --> 0:58:32.680 for this, or like Pepper s would be the other one. 0:58:32.680 --> 0:58:35.360 I'd say here I played with. I feel like, is 0:58:35.400 --> 0:58:40.040 there an offensive lineman that is like just crazy, like 0:58:40.040 --> 0:58:40.840 like would he be a good one? 0:58:40.920 --> 0:58:47.240 Chris Sammuews Chris got them sugar them sugar ankles, you know, 0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:49.160 like them sugar antle like that in church. 0:58:49.560 --> 0:58:49.680 Now. 0:58:49.760 --> 0:58:56.240 Chris ain't no hoop hoop like saying be man McKenna. 0:58:56.880 --> 0:59:00.720 Some of them they can play tack. They cannot play basketball. 0:59:01.360 --> 0:59:04.439 No big Mac just human is huge. I think people 0:59:04.440 --> 0:59:05.440 don't understand. 0:59:05.040 --> 0:59:06.640 How big the dude is. 0:59:06.720 --> 0:59:10.160 Man ain't playing, ain't gonna play no ball now. I 0:59:10.200 --> 0:59:13.040 think you can find some tight ends period that'll be 0:59:13.160 --> 0:59:16.520 good power forward. Tight end definitely. 0:59:17.720 --> 0:59:18.160 Put that, But. 0:59:21.600 --> 0:59:24.320 Listen, tight ends can get the job done. We already 0:59:24.360 --> 0:59:27.160 brought up Jimmy Graham. We're like tight ends can get 0:59:27.160 --> 0:59:30.080 the job done. They rougher than basketball player. They gonn 0:59:30.080 --> 0:59:31.880 they're gonna be stronging in basketball players. 0:59:31.920 --> 0:59:34.120 Who would you pick? Like from uh from Washington? 0:59:34.160 --> 0:59:37.919 Like who we already said Jordan Reid is probably the best. 0:59:38.000 --> 0:59:41.120 I mean all right, uh, what's the name right now? 0:59:41.200 --> 0:59:42.600 Let's go on the roster right now? 0:59:43.560 --> 0:59:45.360 Cole Turner probably. 0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:47.280 Like easier you could have got your boy who just 0:59:47.440 --> 0:59:48.280 was here last year? 0:59:49.440 --> 0:59:52.400 Eighty two, uh, eighty two Logan, Thomas Loga. 0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:55.920 Thomas Logan, Thomas most definitely what about the other kid 0:59:56.000 --> 0:59:56.640 we got. 0:59:56.440 --> 1:00:00.360 Curtis Hurtis hot out with the money. 1:00:00.440 --> 1:00:01.640 Ron Rogers like. 1:00:01.520 --> 1:00:04.160 You can fly out a hoop, Yeah, like a the 1:00:04.200 --> 1:00:07.560 wide receiver eighty nine, Oh, Tremade Tremaine. 1:00:07.880 --> 1:00:09.920 He's six five though. That's the thing. Basketball players are 1:00:09.960 --> 1:00:13.200 so big, bro so big. So yeah, not really good 1:00:13.240 --> 1:00:16.320 answer for for hot center. We hadn't mean for center. 1:00:15.880 --> 1:00:18.600 Because now it's all about it's all about strength at 1:00:18.640 --> 1:00:19.080 the center. 1:00:19.080 --> 1:00:19.720 It ain't around. 1:00:20.560 --> 1:00:23.560 They got more center shooting freeball, and that's and that's 1:00:23.600 --> 1:00:26.360 the reason why my Timperwolf losing because we can't get 1:00:26.400 --> 1:00:27.720 Big Cat to get in the post. 1:00:28.040 --> 1:00:30.160 He want to shoot through threes all day. 1:00:30.480 --> 1:00:31.320 Yeah, sugar cat. 1:00:31.320 --> 1:00:33.320 Can we need him in the post where Rudy go 1:00:33.440 --> 1:00:37.360 bath sugar Cane. Yeah, we can't do nothing with him. 1:00:37.560 --> 1:00:40.840 We know, like Trent Brown, the tackle for Cincinnaty's six eight, 1:00:40.960 --> 1:00:41.960 he's like four hundred pounds. 1:00:42.040 --> 1:00:44.680 What about thanos to get him out there. 1:00:45.440 --> 1:00:48.720 I'm just saying, like, come on now, and we see 1:00:48.840 --> 1:00:52.000 the dude right But for North Carolina State the basketball 1:00:52.040 --> 1:00:53.480 player the three hundred. 1:00:53.280 --> 1:00:55.280 Pounds, oh yeah, yeah, and. 1:00:55.240 --> 1:00:57.440 You know they say a couple of inn NFL teams 1:00:57.440 --> 1:01:00.720 called him. Yeah, and he didn't sitting the five pounds 1:01:00.720 --> 1:01:03.000 for the NBA DREP. So he looks his body looks 1:01:03.000 --> 1:01:06.080 totally right now, so they go, they go, a football 1:01:06.080 --> 1:01:07.680 player playing basketball right there. 1:01:07.680 --> 1:01:09.760 If you really want to know, like ether like big z, 1:01:09.880 --> 1:01:10.720 what the dude name was? 1:01:10.720 --> 1:01:14.880 Who played in Rudolf Zack Randolpha, Yep, you're a mommy man. 1:01:15.080 --> 1:01:18.280 Yeah, I don't know. Uh, Center London Fletcher, I don't know. 1:01:18.320 --> 1:01:21.479 I have no no London. We're gonna bring London sixps on. 1:01:21.360 --> 1:01:23.720 Your paper for the further commanders for the center. 1:01:23.560 --> 1:01:26.160 Y'all blew Mine often said Drake Conter can't play no. 1:01:26.160 --> 1:01:31.320 Basketball, y'all saying Drake, I gotta get I gotta get somebody. 1:01:31.400 --> 1:01:34.600 This ro like that. Drake comes off as Dennis Rodman. 1:01:35.160 --> 1:01:36.680 I'm only here to rebound. 1:01:37.680 --> 1:01:41.960 What he'd be doing like Morgan Moses. Is he nimble 1:01:42.080 --> 1:01:45.360 enoughing I hoop with him sometimes? 1:01:45.520 --> 1:01:46.200 Is he nimble enough? 1:01:46.400 --> 1:01:46.760 He's pretty? 1:01:46.960 --> 1:01:48.480 Okay, Well you know something that I don't know. 1:01:48.560 --> 1:01:49.640 Yeah, so that what I'm saying. 1:01:49.680 --> 1:01:52.880 So guys like that maybe, and I'm telling you LeVar 1:01:53.120 --> 1:01:56.560 hell of an athlete. Man, Okay, I got the perfect guy. 1:01:56.960 --> 1:02:00.720 Plexico Burds for the center as a senator, plex six 1:02:00.840 --> 1:02:01.400 six man. 1:02:01.880 --> 1:02:04.800 He put him into the plex Plexic for next here receiver. 1:02:04.920 --> 1:02:07.680 He ain't trying to get down that bang and ain't small, no, 1:02:07.840 --> 1:02:10.520 but he ain't banging like plex was like this, not 1:02:10.800 --> 1:02:11.560 play basketball. 1:02:11.880 --> 1:02:14.080 I'm just talking body type. And Johnny Wilson that came 1:02:14.160 --> 1:02:17.040 from Philadelphia, easy dude. He looks like a ball player. 1:02:17.200 --> 1:02:19.840 Yeah, I hope he ain't. Hope hehi't ball that I want. 1:02:19.880 --> 1:02:22.160 I want to get him. I hope he balled out, 1:02:22.200 --> 1:02:22.919 but no, don't. 1:02:22.960 --> 1:02:25.520 All right, So six man who we got London flood 1:02:25.520 --> 1:02:28.480 to Fletcher my six man, Leonon Fletcher low. 1:02:28.280 --> 1:02:29.560 Green coming off the bench. 1:02:29.680 --> 1:02:31.360 Did he play and commplate in college? 1:02:31.920 --> 1:02:33.640 London can flat out now. 1:02:33.680 --> 1:02:35.680 I know he used to get hoop before he got 1:02:35.680 --> 1:02:37.720 that dad by went to school to play back. 1:02:37.600 --> 1:02:39.160 But right he could hoop. 1:02:39.200 --> 1:02:43.040 Now he probably my point guard man, No would be gritty, 1:02:43.320 --> 1:02:44.640 just gritty tough. 1:02:45.000 --> 1:02:46.120 That was Russell Curry out. 1:02:46.400 --> 1:02:48.720 I feel, I feel I like London period. I told 1:02:48.760 --> 1:02:50.600 him he was trying lending to my six man. I 1:02:50.640 --> 1:02:52.959 just put him in six member because I used to trying. 1:02:56.360 --> 1:02:57.160 He was always trying. 1:02:57.440 --> 1:02:59.200 He always got agenda when to come to London. 1:03:02.040 --> 1:03:03.560 So yeah, I don't know if he came up with 1:03:03.600 --> 1:03:07.080 a good team. So we got Fred Smooth, Jason Campbell, 1:03:07.640 --> 1:03:11.600 h we got the house, Jordan Reid, Powerford. I heard 1:03:11.600 --> 1:03:14.680 who we said for power forward, LeVar LeVar, and then 1:03:14.960 --> 1:03:16.600 the center. We didn't really have a good Oh Trent 1:03:16.840 --> 1:03:19.760 Trent Williams. That's not bad. That's not a bad starting five. 1:03:19.800 --> 1:03:21.000 And then London that's all right. 1:03:21.040 --> 1:03:23.960 The boys ain't gona win no games. 1:03:23.400 --> 1:03:24.400 Playing the camp Boys. 1:03:24.800 --> 1:03:31.040 Who they got the Giants game that everybody size, everybody 1:03:31.040 --> 1:03:32.240 has a side deficiency. 1:03:32.320 --> 1:03:34.360 That's what I'm saying, if is there any I can't 1:03:34.360 --> 1:03:37.280 even think of one person of this list that that 1:03:37.400 --> 1:03:41.000 is even close to making every roster, even even even 1:03:41.040 --> 1:03:42.000 like Miles Garrett. 1:03:42.480 --> 1:03:43.920 Miles Garrett would make it. 1:03:44.120 --> 1:03:44.640 No, he ain't. 1:03:44.680 --> 1:03:47.000 Man. That man is like two league. 1:03:49.840 --> 1:03:50.520 But think about it. 1:03:50.560 --> 1:03:52.320 If he was in basketball, he wouldn't be trying to 1:03:52.320 --> 1:03:54.720 be the biggest he would he He just. 1:03:55.080 --> 1:03:55.960 He just big like. 1:03:57.480 --> 1:03:59.959 You. I understand. Some kids just come out beat. 1:04:00.040 --> 1:04:01.400 Yeah, this is a big old horse. 1:04:01.560 --> 1:04:03.360 Yeah. That what I'm saying. Can you name me? 1:04:03.640 --> 1:04:07.440 Name me one person, one player in the NFL that 1:04:07.480 --> 1:04:09.000 can play in the NBA right now? One? 1:04:09.320 --> 1:04:12.000 First of all, I promise you was one hundreds of them. 1:04:12.960 --> 1:04:17.000 Hundreds hundreds ain't to be in an argument stopping you 1:04:17.120 --> 1:04:19.080 know me would be. 1:04:19.400 --> 1:04:21.280 I'm gonna tell you how this guy, this guy probably 1:04:21.320 --> 1:04:23.360 can't play no football, but. 1:04:23.280 --> 1:04:24.120 He can hoo. 1:04:24.600 --> 1:04:29.960 Daniel Jones, Okay, quarterback for the Giant. Listen to me. 1:04:30.560 --> 1:04:34.440 Have you watch this dude shoot basketball all? Watch his 1:04:34.560 --> 1:04:35.400 hoigh draft? 1:04:35.400 --> 1:04:36.720 How have you watched some shoot. 1:04:36.880 --> 1:04:38.640 I don't know how I can't pack just clipping here 1:04:38.680 --> 1:04:41.080 doing three sixty. Dog? You say he can't, he can't, 1:04:41.200 --> 1:04:42.280 he can't play No quarterback. 1:04:42.320 --> 1:04:42.640 He can't. 1:04:43.160 --> 1:04:45.680 He can't play every time. Yeah, I know he can 1:04:45.720 --> 1:04:46.920 play two two weeks. 1:04:47.520 --> 1:04:51.680 But what I'm saying he damn Youel Jones can flat out? 1:04:52.440 --> 1:04:53.400 But is it? 1:04:53.440 --> 1:04:56.080 Is it NBA? Let me tell you something. T O 1:04:56.160 --> 1:04:58.560 could have played in the in in NBA. I'm telling 1:04:58.600 --> 1:05:01.439 you now, Terrell on Terrell play in college too. 1:05:02.360 --> 1:05:03.600 There's a lot of dudes that play in college. 1:05:03.600 --> 1:05:04.400 You can't play in the NBA. 1:05:04.640 --> 1:05:08.200 Well, get what Charlie Wood said, you know what, forget football, 1:05:08.200 --> 1:05:08.760 I'm gonna go. 1:05:08.680 --> 1:05:09.840 Hoop for the Knicks And he did. 1:05:10.160 --> 1:05:11.240 That's one guy. 1:05:11.840 --> 1:05:14.560 Come on, come on't I know? 1:05:14.600 --> 1:05:16.000 Yeah? I keep looking at you like I'm gonna get 1:05:16.000 --> 1:05:17.760 support from you. But all right, So okay, a couple 1:05:17.760 --> 1:05:20.560 of things leave in the comments. First off, what's your 1:05:20.600 --> 1:05:23.840 starting five from commanders in from around the NFL. Two? 1:05:23.960 --> 1:05:26.600 Is there one player you can think of from Monte 1:05:26.680 --> 1:05:29.280 Adams from a high weight speed standpoint, they could play 1:05:29.360 --> 1:05:32.000 in the NBA. Please leave a comment, can't wait to 1:05:32.040 --> 1:05:34.160 hear and we'll read the best answer on the next show. 1:05:35.080 --> 1:05:37.440 That's gonna do it for. That's gonna do it for 1:05:37.440 --> 1:05:39.480 today's show. Thanks so much for joining joining us, and 1:05:39.520 --> 1:05:42.360 please make sure to like and subscribe wherever you get 1:05:42.400 --> 1:05:44.480 your podcast. If you want to see ugly faces, check 1:05:44.680 --> 1:05:46.320 check us out on YouTube. 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