1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: On today's episode The Command Center Podcast, we talked about 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: the new Director of Player Personnel, David Blackburn. We talk 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: about OTAs, do they matter, do they not matter? What 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: did we try to get out of them? And we 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: talk about our starting five NFL players that could play 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: in the NBA right now, and there's tons of story 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: time and Fred for Heisman, Smoot for Heisman. It all 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: starts right now. Welcome to The Command Center Podcast. I'm 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: Logan Paulson here with Fred Smoot and Santana Moss. 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Yes, yeah, and 26 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: you said how many Hall of Famers are in your 27 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: draft class? 28 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 2: We got securely right now, four to five, probably like 29 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: five more on Dick. 30 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: And so it's really funny because we've did something about 31 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 1: your draft class earlier, and so who were some names 32 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: from your draft class? Just real quickly, let's start with receiver. 33 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: Let's start with receivers. 34 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 3: So many receivers. 35 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 4: So if I just start off from the first round 36 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 4: and to the you know, just names that I know of. 37 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 3: We had David. 38 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 4: Robinson, uh, your boy who was here, Rodart, and myself. 39 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: Steve Johnson. 40 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting that the guys that are really 41 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: good were the guys that were picked later. 42 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm well Chris, Chris Chambers. 43 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 4: We talked about Christian Chamber. We had this a speedy 44 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 4: punk returner too well, I mean Dante Hall Dante. 45 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, So was this like, I mean, I don't know, 46 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: it's hard to say. What was your class? Like it 47 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: feels like just once on some of those names kind 48 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: of generational. 49 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 3: It was generational. 50 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 4: We changed the league runs. I mean, even I think 51 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 4: about it. I came in as a first round pick 52 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 4: at five to nine ye five nine and a half, 53 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 4: and they were saying that at the time that I 54 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 4: was too short to even be a top ten pick. 55 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 4: They didn't see a guy my size coming in being 56 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 4: a top ten pick. Guys who went who went the 57 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 4: top ten, core In Robinson, David Terrell, and even all 58 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 4: the guys who went in front of me, Rod Gardner, 59 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 4: those guys were all taller, you know what I mean. 60 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 4: So when me and Steve Smith was able to be 61 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 4: successful as fire because I think both of us hit 62 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 4: it our same year. I know Steve seime out the gate. 63 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 4: He was a Pro Bowl as a special teamer the season, 64 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 4: but as a receiver. If I'm not mistaken, don't quote me. 65 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 4: I remember I had my first thousand yards in year three. 66 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 4: That was the year two of me playing. Didn't play 67 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 4: my first year Steve. If I'm not mistaken, Jason might 68 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 4: have to pull us up. He either had one thousand 69 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 4: yards either year two or year three as well. 70 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: So, yeah, you think about it. 71 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 4: If you think about it, us at that size primarily 72 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 4: outside we slots. We didn't play in the slot, we 73 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 4: lay it outside. It changed the whole spectrum of how 74 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 4: they view guys, you know, smaller receivers coming to the league. 75 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 3: So and not all just odditist. You got me skinny corner. 76 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 2: Then you got Michael Vick, not the tallest quarterback, but 77 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: he runner for two forty. You got you got Drew Brees, 78 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: who's don't fit any numbers, too short. So we had 79 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: some oddities in our class that we had Steve Hutchinson 80 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: at the office of line like we had office of Lineman. 81 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 4: We had all kinds like douce mcalla stuff tom So, 82 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: We Travis Henry, Richard Seymour, Richard Seymour, Big Mark Strode, 83 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 4: big Bore name from Florida. We had Alex Brown, Alex 84 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 4: Brown not just d lineman from which one from Florida 85 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 4: had that was Alex Brown Brown? Oh you talking about 86 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 4: big Boy played Detawn He played detached, was it? Huh huh? 87 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Big Jur I mean Jered Ward. And we had 88 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: Dan Morgan. 89 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 4: Morgan came class. 90 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: So obviously these names are they're lost on me because 91 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm too young. But if you if you are familiar 92 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: with these names, you're like, man, that dude was sick, Yeah, 93 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: was sick, had. 94 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 4: Had great season, like they was great career, great, great careers. 95 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. 96 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, Todd Heap is wild. 97 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: That's a wild one. I mean just like because that 98 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: he was like maybe the best of the position, like 99 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: LT was maybe the best position Steve Smith to mention Chad. 100 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 3: Johnson, Michael Vie. 101 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, like the whole thing. It's just it's so. 102 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 3: Weird kind of tackle. 103 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: When you kind of tie it all back to the 104 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: same draft class. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, that's 105 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: just wild. 106 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 3: Man. 107 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: You were talking about a Heisman class too, right, was it? 108 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: You were seventh in the seven? You were not nine. 109 00:04:58,720 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: There's no way you were. 110 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 4: I believe Chris Winky won our class. So Chris Winky 111 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 4: was also Chris with us. Yeah, Chris Winky came out 112 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 4: that year also with I mean that just he won 113 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 4: the Heisman that year. I believe big with second or third. 114 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know so, I just think it's so crazy 115 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: how like the guys that were drafted really high, like 116 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: weren't necessarily like. 117 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: The bit you know what I'm saying, It's never like 118 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 3: that it never drafted. 119 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: I always think that that's why like having good scouts 120 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: and good people in the building. 121 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 4: Super I'm glad you spoke about that, because that was 122 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: if I had one thing I always thought about throughout 123 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 4: my career was owning up to where I was drafted. 124 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 4: So you know, like it was like enough, that was 125 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 4: one of the things that hunted me. I can't say 126 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 4: it hunted me, but I thought about it every day 127 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 4: really because I got hurt out the gate. 128 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying. 129 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 4: I got hurt before I played a game in the NFL. 130 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 4: So to not have that season and see everybody else playing, 131 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 4: you know, think about the snoop minus. Also I was 132 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 4: I remember having my brace on my my thing, my 133 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 4: my true rookie season. 134 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 3: And I'm sitting on the shoe. 135 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 4: Huh. I had a lateral niscus t I tore so 136 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 4: much that did so what we did was back then 137 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 4: they wanted to carve me on to have me back 138 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 4: out there for four weeks. I went home for a 139 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 4: second opinion. I came back with surgery already because my 140 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 4: guy told me, say, Tanna, if I sing you back 141 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 4: up there, you're probably last six years. If that you say, 142 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 4: if I save your meniscus right now, they're gonna be 143 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 4: mad with you. I'm gonna give you a longer you know, 144 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 4: career dude playing. 145 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: I will say this, the way they used to do meniscus, yeah, 146 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: was is now looking back on it crazy just straight 147 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: slipped out and keep it moving and it's like you're 148 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: just straight bone on bone. 149 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 4: So so it's so crazy that we're talking about it. 150 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 4: Because even with me having a surgery after the season, 151 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 4: I had to have another surgery because a piece of 152 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 4: it didn't attach, so I was had a body floating 153 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 4: floating in there to where so I had two surgeries 154 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 4: before I even got a chance to play football. 155 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, that's wild man, But 156 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't realize because you're a guy to 157 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: me that like you're pretty chill. Yeah, but like that 158 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: that dug at you, I. 159 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 4: Dug it man bothered me. And that's why I said 160 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 4: I was so amy about my preper erration. That's what 161 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 4: made me the guy. I mean, I was already him 162 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 4: far as getting ready to prepare, you know, preparing myself 163 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 4: for each season. But I was more on that than 164 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 4: anything because I didn't want to be a failure at 165 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 4: being a first round pick. 166 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: You're Santana Moss without that adversity. 167 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 3: Now everything needs to happen. 168 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 4: Everything happened for a reason, bro, Like if you saw, 169 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 4: if you saw how I got here, what they had 170 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 4: for me, if you saw how I got here, that's 171 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 4: a that alone made me who I am. 172 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, so Fred, so Tanna 173 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: is telling this heartfelt story. 174 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 4: Was really you got Fred. 175 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if we can put this on the screen, 176 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: but like, it's a picture of Fred forre Heisman. 177 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: Let me see. I don't know where you found it. 178 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: Made this yourself. I took a picture of it. It 179 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: was to be aboard. 180 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 4: I told you it was deuce for Heisman. It was 181 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 4: deuce for Heisman, and it was smooth for I tell y'all. 182 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 4: One thing though, man, being that I played Wade in 183 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 4: Miami and didn't know nothing about no other conference but 184 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 4: the Big East, which I was in the A c 185 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 4: C because Florida State was in and SEC because. 186 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: Florida was in that. 187 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 4: I heard smooth name so much, man, so he ran 188 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 4: our college for four years. I was there. You heard 189 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 4: Fred Smooth doing something so Fred was that dude. 190 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: Yes, he's too young, too young. What I had going on? 191 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 4: Fred backed it up, man heat. He talked a lot 192 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 4: of junk, but he went out there and played some 193 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 4: good football. 194 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: Man, Oh my god. 195 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: And I played it. 196 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: So you're no no no bs. 197 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 3: No bs. I was hyped up coming out of college. 198 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: Thank you. 199 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 3: I was very That's why I believe we're just checking. 200 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: He said. He was very specific about it. No listen, 201 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: I was that boy. I know you young, that boy, 202 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: I know you young. Well, I can't say that because 203 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: I didn't do anything in college. 204 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 4: My generation was Yeah, if you say cornerback, they're gonna 205 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 4: bring my name up. So you know how like you 206 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 4: go to Like I told you, we already shared this 207 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 4: story about us going to the Playball American and the 208 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 4: way you know, when guys respect guys, they gonna respect 209 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 4: guy who they feel like he got something. I knew 210 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 4: fred name before I got up there. I'm like this, 211 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 4: damn Fred smooth, and he showed. 212 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 3: Me love out the gates. I said, Okay, that's respect. 213 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 3: I like that. 214 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 4: But I heard him talk that everybody else you're gonna have. 215 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: To bleep that. It's not surprising, but I was. 216 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 3: Laughing to myself. I knew all things about him. I 217 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 3: had to stunter of them all. 218 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 4: Like fred was telling people their whole background, what they 219 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 4: can do, what they can't do. 220 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh Freddie Millers, you only can do this, see you. 221 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 3: They got to give you the ball. See you can't. 222 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 4: You can't run rounds like I'm boy down in Miami. 223 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 3: After you and I'm sitting there like, man, who is 224 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 3: he can't run round Like? But if you throw on 225 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: the screen, didn't turn it into a touchdown? 226 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: You're doing that on purpose? Or is that just how 227 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: you work? 228 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 3: That's just how I am. Bro. 229 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 4: He just was like he wasn't trying to get on 230 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 4: your skull. 231 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: He just was talking. 232 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 3: That's why I tell him. 233 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 4: I say, Bro, I know your cousins hated you when 234 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 4: they was growing up. He say, the only child, so 235 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to see him. I'm one of my 236 00:09:59,040 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 4: grandma house. 237 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 3: I got to see him. I'm just sitting on the. 238 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: What we got, Jason uh. 239 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 5: A good season in two thousand with Mississippi State. 240 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: Two thousand and one, No, it would be two thousand. 241 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, you had five interceptions and you didn't give up 242 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 5: a touchdown. 243 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 3: That dude, man, pretty good that was coming. That's coming 244 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 3: off a junior year which I had a bettle joy? 245 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: Was he really there for the husband? 246 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: Was that? Can we like? 247 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 5: I don't know, I'll search that. 248 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 3: Can we like? I just showed you. 249 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: All that, all that It was just cursed all that 250 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: stuff you just showed me. I thought you could have 251 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 1: made that yourself. I did. 252 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 4: I did hold on holding the crazy part about it. 253 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 4: This is not script. We didn't. We didn't come in 254 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 4: here and saying we were gonna talk about he got 255 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 4: it already because his history you gotta give you got 256 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 4: to give him a benefit. 257 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 3: I just thank you, man, because you was the office 258 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 3: of But I was closer to that. 259 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: But I wasn't close to anything like I know exactly 260 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: what I was. I was. I'm just happy to be here, man, 261 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: Just happy to sit in between two great football players. 262 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. Also, Teddy you you said something crazy? 263 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? 264 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: And Fred you this is true right what he said 265 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: about him being what was it? 266 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 4: So? I was, I was the biggest offense and player 267 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 4: of the. 268 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: Year, and you're the only person, the only person to 269 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: ever do that. 270 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 4: First and last weeks no longer. 271 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: Have a and the other person you shared the offensive 272 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: player with was Michael Mike classmates. 273 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't. 274 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: I knew you were I knew you guys were both beasts. 275 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: But like when you hear stuff like that, you're like, 276 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 1: and bro. 277 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you the truth and the whole thing 278 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 4: about this, even leading up to the whole Heisman thing. 279 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 4: This is fact you. You gonna ask me to save case. 280 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 4: You know we have to fact cha on this show. 281 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 3: Nobody just tell the show. 282 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 4: Bush Davis called me into the office going into my 283 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 4: senior years. It's the summer. We got there train and 284 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 4: bust out behind. He was like, hey, man, I just 285 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 4: want to let you know. You know we're you're gonna 286 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 4: take this. You got to take this magazine cover because 287 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 4: you're up for the Heisman this year. And I was 288 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 4: like no, He's like, what you mean No? I was like, Man, 289 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 4: don't want that. I don't want to take the picture. 290 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 4: I don't want to be up for the high means. 291 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: Like was it the ESPN magazine. 292 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 4: I'm not even sure what it was, but I know 293 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 4: I remember I remember being on it and doing a 294 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 4: move and he was like, Bro, this is good for 295 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 4: the school. It's gonna bring us attention. But I'm superstitious, 296 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 4: and I'm like, man by, get on these cousin. Something 297 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 4: happened and out the gate. I twisted my ankle the 298 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 4: first game of the season, so. 299 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 3: Here I am, and it bothered me. 300 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 4: Like he told me. We had a little saying. Coach 301 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 4: Davis told one of our trainers, if Tanna could walk, 302 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 4: he's playing. So I played the next four or five 303 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 4: games that season limping, limping, and I remember they was 304 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 4: writing me off in the play all Tanner having the 305 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 4: worst senior season. I'm like, I'm not getting any passes. 306 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 4: I'm out here to be a decoy. So we can't 307 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 4: double Reggie, you understand. And I remember I went home 308 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 4: and my trainer told me. He said, look, bro, he 309 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 4: would give me treatment every day and he said, Tanna, 310 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 4: in five weeks, you're gonna feel like yourself. And he 311 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 4: put on the he circled the game. He said, look 312 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 4: what game we have in five or six weeks. It 313 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 4: was Florida State. So I went home and I'm praying. 314 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, I just want to be half of myself. 315 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 4: Florida State week, I go out there and I had 316 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 4: that hundred yards and if y'all want to know why 317 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 4: I was emotional when I said, big time player step 318 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 4: up in big games. I was emotional because you heard 319 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 4: I said, I say, you know a freak. All the 320 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 4: criticism for big time players step up in big games. 321 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 4: I was getting criticized for being hurt, like I couldn't 322 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 4: get I couldn't get off. 323 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 3: I wasn't doing nothing. I was just out there. So 324 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: they were saying, oh, he's not doing anything. It's his 325 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 3: senior year. 326 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 4: And that was the game. I had one hundred yards 327 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 4: and I didn't look back. 328 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: Then still the seventh of the Hetman voting, and then 329 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: Fred was nice. 330 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 3: Yes, because you don't believe. 331 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 2: I think you don't believe in the in the allure 332 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: of a young Fred smooth, like the college free. 333 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry you get a picture of it, but like, 334 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, it. 335 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 4: Ain't so crazy though, because Fred came with a lot 336 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 4: of hype and it was almost like the mic, not 337 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 4: the Mike Vic but the Lebron James, Like when you 338 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 4: see somebody's like, all right, damn, this dude supposed to 339 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 4: be all world out out out of there, and then 340 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 4: you see him, I doesn't I'm watching him on Sports Center, 341 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 4: Fred move on. I'm like this playing he can really play, 342 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So, but then to get 343 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 4: in the same building with him, Oh my god. I 344 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 4: was just like, if I had to hear this, dude, man, 345 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 4: I hope it comes off a different way. And I'm all, 346 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 4: I take that kind of stuff that chatter wrong most 347 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 4: of the time. But he's a good person, So I 348 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 4: never took it that way. 349 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 3: From him, and and that little challenges. 350 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: So I always went out to like, if you they 351 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: tell me this to best received, I want to work 352 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: out with it. Like that was my theme that, Yeah, I. 353 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 5: Don't know how good this source is, uh, but you 354 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 5: didn't ask me anything. On Reddit eight years ago, Yeah, 355 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 5: and someone commented one there that they were a student 356 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 5: at Mississippi State when you were there and they had 357 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 5: a smooth for heiasman bumper stick. 358 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, because all the whole campus they wanted you to sign. Yeah, 359 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 3: that made the whole campus, made them. I believe that 360 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 3: it's out there. 361 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 5: Some dude said it's out there, so there's at least 362 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 5: a campaign for it, all. 363 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: Right, he's out there. Respect defensive players in general, we 364 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: don't get no love, you know what I'm saying it's 365 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: just like. 366 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: That's why I yeft, that's that's the main reason that yet, 367 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: because they say we're good, but they won't give us 368 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: any for any. 369 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 3: Other offense stuff. 370 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 4: As a good salesman, he knew how to get usself, 371 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 4: you know, how to put the light on him. 372 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: And then he went, yeah, I think that's one of 373 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: my favorite stories about you. Was at the Senior Bowl 374 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: and they said you were killing all the receivers and 375 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: they brought you over to the other practice. 376 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: Ye right, to go and get you. 377 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: I'll do it. I mean, that's awesome, man. All Right. 378 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: So that's kind of concluding our story time interlude to Yeah, 379 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: it's great story time. It's a segment the recommendation anyway. 380 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: So in Commander's News, we have a new director of 381 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: Player Personnel, David Blackburn, and he is a former uh 382 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: Baltimore raven see man. And it's not like I want 383 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: him to and it's not like he was just a guy. 384 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: He was the director of college Scouting and Baltimore and 385 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: talking about a job that is taxing, like I've had 386 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: a you know, every stop I've had, I kind of 387 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: will go talk to the director of college gout. He 388 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: just to get a feel. They not only have to 389 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: evaluate three hundred plus college athletes, but they are responsible 390 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: for all of the regional scouts. So, you know, the 391 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: way that we divide up the country here with Washington 392 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: they used to with the old staff is like there's 393 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: a director of everybody you know west of the Mississippi, 394 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: as a director of everybody east of Mississippi. They all 395 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: have people that report to them for like regionals. They 396 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: kind of divided it up almost by state. You know 397 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: a number of schools and it's your job as the 398 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: director of college scouting to distill all of that information, 399 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: make reports for all the athletes. Now again you can 400 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: you know, what do they call that delegate some of that, 401 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: some of that some of those tasks to you know, 402 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: like your people that work under you. But then you 403 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: have to present it to the offensive end defensive coaching staff. 404 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 3: So the head coach. 405 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: So now he wasn't just like a guy, he was 406 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: like he was like doing the dang thing there. Now 407 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: he's a director of pro Scouting, which is like I 408 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: think some people would consider a promotion for him, But 409 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: he did that for seventeen years. Is at an organization 410 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: that is known for drafting well, drafting extremely well. Yeah, 411 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: So for me, I'm just like, man, we're just getting 412 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, we're getting more good people from good organizations 413 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: that have an opportunity to kind of help kind of 414 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: slidify this culture. 415 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: They're saying good players ain't enough. They saying good coaches 416 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 2: ain't enough. They need good from the top to the bottom. 417 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: They understand we're not trying to have a good season. 418 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 3: We try to have a good couple of decades. 419 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: They're trying to do it to the point where you know, 420 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 2: when you when you're doing things right, when other people 421 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 2: try to try to come pay and steal the people 422 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 2: that's working for you, Well, we're going out to the 423 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 2: top people and we're getting them like that. 424 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 3: Don't mean we don't keep them for twenty years, but 425 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: we're getting them. 426 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: And they I think they understand now that it's way 427 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: deeper than just coaches in football. 428 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 3: It's way deep. 429 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 4: I mean, we've been talking about this for so many years. 430 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,479 Speaker 4: When it comes to how to run a business, how 431 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 4: you're going to run it. If you got one part 432 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 4: of it rolling or you know, and the other part 433 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 4: of it is basically a camp and so or toxic, 434 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 4: it kind of trinkles down and it leads into it 435 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 4: doing well. So that's what I see right now. These guys, 436 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 4: ain't They came in here and they say, look, man, 437 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 4: you already say we got an F grade when it 438 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 4: comes to our facility. We're gonna change that. I say, 439 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 4: we got things going on at the stadium that people 440 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 4: not liking. We're gonna change that. Yeah, you know, you 441 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 4: say we need this and that stuff and staff people 442 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 4: see PA's you know, all that stuff. We're gonna change that. 443 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 4: They're from from top to bottom. They're trying to make 444 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 4: this thing something that not just the players can come 445 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 4: over here and be happy with, but the fans can 446 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 4: appreciate what they're doing because in order for you to 447 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 4: have a great team, you got to have people who 448 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 4: knows how to get the right the right players. And 449 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 4: when you see this guy's track record seventeen years stands 450 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 4: out more than anything and put a little human behind it, 451 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 4: it almost feels like, you know, how you stayed with 452 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 4: your grandma and that one cousin that had to leave 453 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 4: his mom house, that was that was pretty good over there, 454 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 4: and he came over to stay with y'all, and he 455 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 4: was that cousin that could cook, clean and do everything. 456 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 3: So it just made everything better for you. 457 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,959 Speaker 4: So we keep talking about in the Baltimore Ravens our cousins. 458 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, he came on. 459 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 4: Over here to day would with us. 460 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 3: We ain't had no analytics. Analytic a little easier for 461 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 3: you know. 462 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, But I think that's a great point ten because 463 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: all the teams that are like in the show, you 464 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, the forty nine Ers, Philadelphia Eagles, Troylyons, 465 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, like those four teams are four excellent rosters. Now, 466 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: obviously Kansas City is a little bit of outlier because 467 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: they found a great quarterback in terms of you need 468 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 1: people from those organizations to kind of say, hey, this 469 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: is how we build it, this is how identify talent, 470 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: this is how we ensure that we're going to be 471 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: on that track sooner rather than later. So another interesting 472 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: thing about him, De Paul University graduate with a degree 473 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: in economics, smart man and a minor in history. So 474 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: like school, four year starter at cornerback, team captain and 475 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 1: only four time All sc AC selection in school history. 476 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference. For those of you at home, 477 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: keeping score. So I like that he's got the football background. 478 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: So smart dude, football player. I mean again, like who 479 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,479 Speaker 1: was a half of talent? Who's the guy who did 480 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: last week? So on? So yeah, like that dude's resume 481 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: was impeccable. Yeah, this guy's resume is to me, exactly 482 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: what you want, everything you want. So that's always uh 483 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: mirrors each other. 484 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, qualified guys doing qualified things, and and this this 485 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: that bills trust. 486 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 3: If the coaches stay no one, I ain't got to 487 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 3: be looking at that. 488 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 2: We got the right guys and then they're gonna handle 489 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 2: it in scenes and out season, don't matter. 490 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 4: How many years we was here. And we saw a 491 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 4: guy to that we knew should have been on our 492 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 4: team that didn't get kept, we say it out of 493 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 4: time and pay. Yeah, we understand. 494 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 3: It's different. 495 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 4: It's deeper than that because it's money that's dealing with it, 496 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 4: and it's players that you know, you know, roster spots. 497 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 4: But it just shows you, man that even players who 498 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 4: played this game long enough have a eye. So it's 499 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 4: great to know this guy has a background and and 500 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 4: he's been doing well for for for you know, for 501 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 4: a long time. 502 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: And we're not saying this is gonna be the magic 503 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: bull it, but it just is. It's such. It's nice 504 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: when the process is correct, you know what I mean, 505 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: Hire good people, bringing the right type of people. And 506 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: it's not just one guy trying to make all the decisions. 507 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: It's a group of them correct. 508 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 2: And it's the right ingredients to a good dinner, like 509 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 2: you got to head the right ingredients. If you don't 510 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 2: got the right and gigs by the time you cook it, 511 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 2: no matter how good the cookie. 512 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 3: Is, the food nasty. And then what we've been serving 513 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 3: we've been serving his sack lunches for years over here. 514 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 3: Now now we got all you can. 515 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 2: Eat but fake come on in here, and we're slowly 516 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: putting the cooks in there and letting them cook. 517 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, I needed to stay. We're pretty stoked about it. 518 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: But you know that's this. These are these are the 519 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: type of decisions that pay dividends down the road, not 520 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: necessarily not today this season, but in terms of this season, Yes, 521 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: we got ots are happening. I went out to practice 522 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 1: last week. One thing I want to run by you 523 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: guys real quick. I know we can. You had to 524 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: go to Florida. You had some stuff going on One 525 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: of the things is Jaden threw two interceptions in the 526 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: red zone last week. Part like reason for concern or 527 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: I don't care. 528 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, what this is the time to everything you want 529 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: to travel to try it now going right, Like, if. 530 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,479 Speaker 3: You're going to make the mistakes, make them now, make 531 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 3: them down, make them down, make you like yeah, but 532 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 3: this is the reason learning curve. 533 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: The reason I really want to bring it up is because, 534 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: like I think people hear like, oh, red zone and 535 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: there's no context. But to me, red zone is tight, 536 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: especially early in the offseason, favors the defense, yes, because 537 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: they you can just talk about that. 538 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 3: I think about it. 539 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 2: If they hit the five yard line, the end zone 540 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: is only ten yards deep, all right. We don't backpedal everything. 541 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 2: Every decision is made in intents of a second. Every 542 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 2: window that that quarterbacks and throws in it can start that. 543 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 3: Big, it's gonna end that small. 544 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 2: And when you're in the red zone tips everything if 545 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 2: you can get it, if the d line can get 546 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: a hand on the ball, if the dv can get 547 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 2: a hand on the ball, we usually gonna turn that 548 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 2: ball over there. So the windows are smaller. Everything's done 549 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: so quick, and you got to make a decision. That's 550 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 2: what I think he's learning right now. Hight the ball. 551 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 2: I got probably three four tenths of us tend to 552 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: make seconds to make my decision, and I got to 553 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 2: live with it, even if that decision is throwing the 554 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: ball out the back of the en zone. 555 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 4: That's why, you know, as a receiver, I hate it 556 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 4: the closer we got to the end zone because. 557 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 3: Now it takes away you'll beat me a game, you 558 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 3: know what I mean. 559 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 4: So you know, especially if you're not throwing me no 560 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 4: jump ball, not not using my ability to go up 561 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 4: for the ball, then I'm not a I'm not a use. 562 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 4: So I love when we could cross that fifty and 563 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 4: we're still throwing bombs from the twenty five or out 564 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 4: of thirty. But when you get in those close areas, 565 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 4: those pro semities, man, it's tough. And for a young guy, 566 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 4: if he's going to learn it, learn it now. Get 567 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 4: that out your system now, because right now we're not 568 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 4: even in real pass You're not you don't have bodies 569 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 4: flying at you the way you would seeing a regular 570 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 4: you know, drill practice against the teams. You know, our 571 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 4: first team was you know, going to get a second 572 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 4: team or whatever. But I'm happy because we talked about 573 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 4: this before we got on the show. 574 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 3: Who cares about what goes on OTA. 575 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 4: That's why we have OTAs, because we want you to 576 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 4: get in here and learn the system, get in here 577 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 4: and get you know, I guess you can say, get your. 578 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 3: Time in together. 579 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 4: All that stuff plays a part of your game now 580 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 4: because by the time we get here, when things live, 581 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 4: bullets are flying around, That's when I'm gonna be concerned. 582 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 4: That's what I'm gonna be worried about. 583 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 3: How you looking alsold this. 584 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: Let's be honest, if they was selling mon selling a 585 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,719 Speaker 2: team in OTAs, he ain't pull it out the legs 586 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: because this the one thing he has that when it 587 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: don't turn out the way he wanted to be in 588 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 2: the red zone. 589 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 3: He gonna run. 590 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: So he wouldn't you, He wouldn't weaponizing it. He was like, 591 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 2: I gotta throw this bott I'm gonna throw the ball. 592 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 2: So I think people need to take it for what 593 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: it was. Because we hear a lot of people talking 594 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 2: about Kayla william through six weeks. 595 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 3: Out of practice. I don't care. I just don't care. 596 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was gonna say the other thing about 597 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: the red zone specifically, is like that's a game plan 598 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: phase of the game for the offense, right, Like you're 599 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: gonna scheme up. You're gonna say, oh, this is how 600 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: they run their quarters. These are the players we're gonna run. 601 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna have kind of designated stuff. You're not running 602 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: just general offense. There and there looked to me like 603 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: they were running pretty general offensive stuff, which put which 604 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: puts them in a hard spot. You can't run the football. 605 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: You can't run, you can't scram up. So it's all 606 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: kind of it favors the defense big time. 607 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 3: Man. 608 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: Again, like you were saying, Fred, like you know, Cale 609 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: Williams through twelve interceptions, but I can care less. I 610 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: guess practice, man, he's learned a new offense. 611 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 4: It's the best too, because you gotta understand, especially in 612 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 4: the world when today, when it comes to social media, 613 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 4: all this stuff is clickbait. So if you see somebody 614 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 4: out there doing well, we're gonna praise and we're gonna 615 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 4: we're gonna send him to the Pro Bowl. Already, season 616 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,479 Speaker 4: ain't start. He's gonna be a Pro Bowl player, he's 617 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 4: gonna be a Hall of Famer. I want these guys 618 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 4: to you know, I guess progress on the time that 619 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 4: they're ready to progress, you know what I mean. I 620 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 4: don't want to see all No, I don't want to 621 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 4: see his crown anybody so far they you know, and 622 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 4: when you're desperate, in which we are up here in 623 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 4: this area, Yeah, we're desperate. So we're gonna crown whoever 624 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 4: as soon as you bring the guy. Oh, he's ready, 625 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 4: he's ready to go out there and do it. Don't 626 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 4: give give him his time. 627 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 2: I come to like the cloud that's around Jaden because 628 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 2: it's his hype. 629 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 3: People is it? Don't got that? I guess. I was 630 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 3: here when r G three got drafted, and it was 631 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 3: just different. 632 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 2: It was almost a messiah savior complex that they put 633 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: on Robert that I don't see them putting on Jaden. 634 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 2: It's more of okay, thank you, great draft pick. Now 635 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 2: let's see what he got. And with Robert it was like, well, 636 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,719 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie Robert. Robert came out explosive. 637 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:03,479 Speaker 3: So no, no, he's did. 638 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 2: But you know, I have to say, before Robertie even 639 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 2: played the down, it was like I said this this savior. 640 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. The other thing is, you know, not to 641 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: say that he had a bad practice. I actually thought 642 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: he looked like just to kind of hype this Messiah 643 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: thing up even more. But he had a great practice 644 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: outside those two, like he just he understands like where 645 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: to go with the football, He understands progressions. He threw 646 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: two excellent deep balls, one of Jehan that was awesome. 647 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: You saw that. Well, so everyone's talking about the throw 648 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: and I was stoked on Johan. Yeah, well the catch, well, 649 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: he's always got the ball skills. But I don't know 650 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 1: if it was on the clip, but in practice, I'm 651 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: talking little double stick arm through working the shoulder. Remember 652 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: how last year he kind of just run into that 653 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: cod like and I just thought, man, that's a guy 654 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: who's been on his craft. 655 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 3: He's been polishing the weak parts of that. You know. 656 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 4: You know the first thing when we had him in 657 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 4: here of the day, the first thing he said, I said, 658 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 4: what you was that down to Florida? And you know, 659 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 4: I know a guy down there and called himself gold Feet. 660 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 4: He's on Instagram. Anybody out there listening, and you got 661 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 4: kids and want to be a receiver, see him the 662 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 4: gold feet down there for out of there. 663 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish I had a parapet is the real deal. 664 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: He regularly got some pretty good issues on it. 665 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 4: It's crazy to me how young these guys are. Now 666 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 4: it's another guy called it rock God. Uh Rock God 667 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 4: is pretty good to He's another Florida guy. And you 668 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 4: say where they're going at Florida that what we do 669 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 4: down there? We cut grass down there to. 670 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 3: Give tonight life was killing me. 671 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 4: But that's the first thing, you know, Dotson talked about 672 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 4: just going down there and putting the work in. That's 673 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 4: what it's about, man, when you young. Look, I was 674 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 4: scared of that we was gonna crown him too soon 675 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 4: last year. How we talked so highly on Johan and 676 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 4: I think he needed that season. 677 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 3: He needed to be humble. I didn't want to see 678 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 3: him go. 679 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,239 Speaker 1: Out there kind of your leg something to kind of say, 680 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: hey man, you. 681 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 4: Got to work with this thing bingo. So you know, 682 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 4: I'm glad that you saw that that showed you that 683 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 4: he went out Dan got. 684 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: In the left it again. It's it's one rap, but 685 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: it's something that we didn't see a lot of from 686 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: last year. And you can tell that he's put some 687 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: time in on it. And if there was one area 688 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,479 Speaker 1: that I thought his game was weak, it's dealing with 689 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, getting off pressed right and then dealing with 690 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: contested catches. 691 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: So I can say, and I didn't think he challenged 692 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 2: it to peak of the ball and continuent like I 693 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 2: thought his hands could be a lot stronger than they 694 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: got because some guys receiver wise, we know if they 695 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: touched the ball like this, I need to worry about. 696 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 2: Now it's tackling, like I can't go through his arm 697 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 2: because he ain't gonna he ain't gonna let me get 698 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 2: that ball out of there. 699 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I guess what I'm saying is it was 700 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: nice to see him a make a tough catch, really 701 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: tough catch, and then be the release and like working 702 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: that work in that element of craft. Yeah, but Johan 703 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: looked awesome, all right, Not Johan, Jane looked awesome. And 704 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: again it's the footwork, the timing. I mean, I feel 705 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: like he's signaling concepts to be defenses. But then thing 706 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: I want to talk about with you, Fred is like 707 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 1: holy cow man, the defense and the personnel and their 708 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: ability to kind of disguise coverages and then get to 709 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: different stuff talking about how important like just. 710 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: First of all, this did Joe with affect like I 711 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: tell with corners are playing, Uh, it's just me by 712 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 2: myself to survive survival mode. Then it's oh, in this defense, 713 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 2: I get to I get to play some match Jedi 714 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 2: mind tricks with this dude. And that's what I'm seeing 715 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 2: with the defense. I see a move, I see a 716 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: moving on what we call it moving on the screen. 717 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 2: That mean we're moving together, like if my safety walking down. 718 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes these dudes are just like you talk about, like 719 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: that's the old school everyone's on the show. Sometimes I 720 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: feel like it's just like someone throwing marbles. 721 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 3: Up the floor. You know what I'm saying. It's like, 722 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 3: what are they doing? Organized chaos we call it. 723 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: And when you got was like the Frankie Louvou out 724 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: there and you gotta wagner that then played similar defenses 725 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: to this and then you got you in. And the 726 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 2: rest of these guys on the back end they understand 727 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 2: I one, if I undress my coverage, we already beat two. 728 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 3: If I don't know. 729 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 2: How to hide these certain things, I can't play my 730 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 2: Jedi mind tricks with you. If I'm on the out 731 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 2: side with Taylor and I'm press bailing because I know 732 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 2: I really in covered three but I really want to 733 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 2: show make him think I'm in true man, I got 734 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: to hold a prince like. 735 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 3: But guess what, I also need my safety to hold 736 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 3: in the middle. 737 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: So it's these things where it's can I respect you 738 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 2: to be where I need you to be in and 739 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 2: can I be wasky for. 740 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 3: That's like you see I'm over here, smile. 741 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 4: It's music to my ears, bro, because I literally set 742 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 4: in that press box we can and week out like 743 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 4: you showing me this right now? 744 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 745 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 4: Like it was nothing to the disguise part of it. 746 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 4: It was just like we're here self preservation. Come on, reservation, 747 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So being in this league 748 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 4: for so long, bro, you know how hard it was 749 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 4: for me to beat in the line of scrimmers watching 750 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 4: the defense and watching that safety trying to read what 751 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 4: the hell he finna show me? And then pre snap 752 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 4: read showed me one thing and the snap of the bottom 753 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 4: they go fly out of there. I didn't see enough 754 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 4: of that here, man, and I hated it. So I'm 755 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 4: happy to hear you guys are seeing that. I'm happy 756 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 4: that they're doing it because when you watch dan Quinn's 757 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 4: defense over the years when he was in Seattle, you know, Atlanta, 758 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 4: when you know the Dallas in those last three four years, Like, Bro, 759 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 4: that's what you saw, even if they didn't have the 760 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 4: best out there on the best. 761 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, the defense as a whole was rotted, you know 762 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. 763 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 4: So you don't have to have these studs when you 764 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 4: got a de de defense. Yes, everybody, you got a 765 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 4: team that's playing on one unitses like when we want accord. 766 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: Well that's a way to put that. Yeah, you just 767 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: made me think of a couple of players that I 768 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: thought were awesome. Like there was one where like it 769 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: looked like I don't know the coverages, but it looked 770 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: like box to me. You know, they got a bunch 771 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: Tenna and they got that that. 772 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 3: Box coverage and low two high corner takes the. 773 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: First guy going out, It takes the first guy going in. 774 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: And they had like a spot concept on where the 775 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: guy would sit right in the middle of the box 776 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: fastball right. But and so that's what I thought. I 777 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: was like, this should be stealing. But then they rotated 778 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: the safety down, they pushed out, they got in the 779 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: cover two Tampa two in the red zone and it 780 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: was enough where you take away the spot, you gotta 781 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: double clutch the fence. 782 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 3: Take the spot. 783 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: And it was going to take away first and it 784 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: was really subtle and it was pretty good and it 785 00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: was enough for I was like, that got. 786 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 4: Them and you can tell it's one second to think. 787 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: And then there was another one where Dominice Campton was 788 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: lying up on the right and held the disguise and 789 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: basically became the half safety to the left. 790 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, like talk about dropping marbles. Have to get there. 791 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: And You're just like, I don't know how you knew that, 792 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: but you said organize chaos. Like there's timeshe you're like, oh, 793 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: like and when you're watching it, and again, this isn't 794 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: just from me watching practice. This is like Dallas film. 795 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: Is this? Yes, right, we look like we're in man 796 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: over in Tampa touo oh, it looks like Cover three. Oh, 797 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: we're in we're blitzing. We're in his own pressure. 798 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 2: We cannot play fast on defense unless we all know 799 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 2: what the real plan is. Like when we played for 800 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 2: Greg Williams, it ain't no day we hit a field 801 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 2: and we ain't know what our plan was. And I 802 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 2: plan changes week by week, but I tell you what 803 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 2: when we hit them green lines, we are on fire. 804 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 2: And you can tell you and I can always tell 805 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 2: a boy the energy of a defense. 806 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: I can tell you because it's a group thing. Man. 807 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 2: Like I know, on offense, y'all can sometimes be independent 808 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 2: contractors in really blossom. I don't think we can do 809 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 2: that on defense because I can't do no what that 810 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 2: might be. 811 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: Lie, definitely not to the extent like you have to 812 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: know the concept especial running routes where you know, you 813 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: know the run scheme and you have to fit in there. 814 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: But you can you can put a little bit, Yeah 815 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: you can. But I feel like if defense is not we're. 816 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 3: Not all locked up, it's gonna fail. 817 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 4: Defense is all it's to me. I think it's predicated 818 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 4: on everybody's being on their guy being in there, playing, 819 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 4: playing to read or reading reading write right, you know, 820 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,239 Speaker 4: I see so many guys watching them. I think it 821 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 4: was miked up section they had on ESPN or somewhere. 822 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 4: I saw it on Instagram where they had a kid 823 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 4: talking to another kid, or they had they had a 824 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 4: veteran talking to a kid, like, bro, let me know 825 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 4: what you got going on because cut, yes, I'm telling 826 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 4: you you ain't telling me nothing. I'm thinking, you're gonna 827 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 4: play this guy and I'm. 828 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: Information and such a frustrating Like I was so frustrating 829 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: to watch. 830 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, because you knew the young kid was in his 831 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 4: feelings and this guy's trying to tell him like, bro, 832 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 4: like I'm just trying to communicate. 833 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: Well, here's this old head, like I'm trying to help you. 834 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: I'm to help you, help me yea yeah, And you're 835 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: just like I remember having the same conversation with like 836 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. You know, like you're in the third or 837 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: fourth preseason game. You're playing against somebody's not maybe not 838 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: gonna make the team. You're trying to make the team, 839 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,439 Speaker 1: and you're like like, listen to what I'm saying. Yeah, 840 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: I played for eight years. You're a rookie, like trust 841 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: me or do what I say. And some of those 842 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: guys and it just makes you because you like I 843 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: felt I felt for that guy and the Metro guy, 844 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: I felt for him because I was like, you might 845 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: not make the team because this guy screwed him over that. 846 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 2: Simple stuff like if my wide receiver off the ball, 847 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 2: the first thing I do is alert my lineback and 848 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 2: watch for that crack. 849 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 3: I don't know if he's gonna crack. I just know 850 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 3: he ails with a move. 851 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 2: Now when he starts to move going back into the court, 852 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 2: if I ain't laying, if I ain't saying, crack that 853 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 2: linebacker never turning it in, never turning, and now guess what, 854 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 2: he gets cracked by the wide receiver I got to replace. 855 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 2: So now I'm taking on the top sweep by myself. Well, 856 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 2: I just stopped from taking on their top sweep by 857 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 2: myself by just alerting a simple crack call. 858 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 3: And they go to things that the communication. 859 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 4: Communication is key, mate. I think that's just one of 860 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 4: the things that stands out when you have a defense 861 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 4: that's playing on one accord, when you have that down pack, 862 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 4: then were all gonna go out here and be successful 863 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 4: and not going to just be on one guy because 864 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 4: we all know what's going on. 865 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. So two things. One, this is like super nerdy 866 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: question and I don't I don't really know what you're 867 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: gonna answer. Is do you keep track of other people's 868 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: OTA's like when you're reading media tipmits or does it 869 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: not matter? Because sometimes I find myself being like, oh, 870 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: blik Davis had a touchdown in OTA practice. 871 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 3: I do you want to see it. 872 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 2: I just want to see It doesn't really matter if 873 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter, but if you love football, you just 874 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 2: want to see what's going on. 875 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 4: Often say, with social media, I do more than I 876 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 4: did before. 877 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. 878 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 4: I wouldn't go online looking social media. You can basically 879 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 4: go and type in Carolina, type in whatever team it is, 880 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 4: and see they little clip. 881 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,760 Speaker 1: So I do that way and again, like it doesn't 882 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: really matter, but it's also it kind of just gets 883 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: you excited. 884 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 2: You know, this time of year, everybody's bubbling. Everybody got 885 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 2: a change out thirty two way the super Bowl, and 886 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 2: it's that time where it ain't a lot of news. 887 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 3: So therefore, if. 888 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 2: We get any news, Je Daniels just dropped the eighty 889 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 2: yard touchdown. Whoa, Like everybody's cheering for that, dude, Like, 890 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 2: come on, you don't think people in Minnesota going crazy 891 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 2: over JJ mccartty every time he completes the pass, Like 892 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 2: it's that time, right, So I expect it to be 893 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 2: that way. But also, this is the time championships are won. 894 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 2: To me, this is when teams come together together. I 895 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 2: can always tell, like I'm hearing out of Cincinnati Jamon Chase, 896 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 2: not in the building, Higgins, not in the buildings, contract disputes. 897 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 2: They made it to that point, like they paid their quarterback. 898 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 2: Now that the roster getting tightened to keep together. So 899 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 2: you know, it's good and bad all over the league 900 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 2: right now. 901 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 4: I want to think as much as we want to 902 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 4: tell the fans to kind of you know, I guess 903 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 4: you could say, pump the brakes on getting too far 904 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 4: ahead of yourself. It's also, you know, the fans is 905 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 4: just like how we were back in the day. It's 906 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,240 Speaker 4: a different time. Back in the day football came in July, 907 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 4: it was already training camp. You know, we didn't have 908 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 4: an ESPN to watch, We didn't have a social media 909 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 4: to watch. 910 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 3: Football season was in. 911 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 4: We was playing, and it was there was sure a clipping. 912 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 4: It's gone for two weeks, you know, until they play 913 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 4: that preseason game. Now it's every days something to look 914 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 4: about this year round. You can't you can't help but 915 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 4: allow them to have that kind of joy that they 916 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 4: have for their team. 917 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 2: And everybody liked the new toys, new shiny toy. They 918 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 2: don't want to know about the old children vent. Nobody 919 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 2: want to know about Logan. Tell me about Daniel like, we. 920 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 4: Don't know, they don't know any information about it, not 921 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 4: in this uniform. 922 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely so again and then this is something I'm curious 923 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: because I don't know how you guys, because it was 924 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: a little different era. How did you guys treat O 925 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 1: t as like when you were playing? Like was it 926 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 1: like was it were you like fit ready to go? 927 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: Or were you getting shot? 928 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 2: It depends on which O t A it is. If 929 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 2: it's their first eight O t A. Some guys are 930 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 2: be in shape, but not the best shape they're gonna 931 00:37:58,800 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 2: be in. 932 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was too naive to not know what to do. 933 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 4: Get the gate out the gate. I kind of, you know, 934 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,919 Speaker 4: blame that a little bit my injury, but I kind 935 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 4: of came in ready, you know what I mean. And 936 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 4: then from there I was like, Okay, it's good to 937 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 4: be ready, you know. But when I saw the guys 938 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 4: out there falling by the wayside and throwing up and 939 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 4: can't make the little runs we had, I said, I 940 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 4: don't ever want to feel like that. And then later 941 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 4: in my career I took a break because I had 942 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 4: them played so much, Yeah. 943 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 3: Too much football I had. 944 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 4: I had, I had my I had a couple of 945 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 4: runners who had worked for my agent, was like, you 946 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 4: you're always in that gym man, just this rest and 947 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 4: I rest, and I wasn't myself. I'm like, see, I'm 948 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 4: just not you. Bro. I got to keep knowing I do, 949 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 4: so I prepared to be going full throttle. Come ot. 950 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,439 Speaker 3: I don't want to have to be getting into the mode. 951 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 4: You know. 952 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 2: And you always had a new quarterback O TA, so 953 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,919 Speaker 2: you needed to get their relationship. 954 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 4: Together in the quarterback new offense. I had so much 955 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 4: going on, Bro, I saw it all, you know. 956 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think everyone here is like, oh yeah, oh, 957 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 1: it's optional team activity. Like I don't remember ever missing one, 958 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: not coming in and being like one hundred percent rate. 959 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 3: I'm always there. I'm always gonna be there. 960 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,720 Speaker 1: It starts. It's gonna sound crazy, but it's it starts 961 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: the coaches evaluation process. And as much as they say, oh, 962 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, Like I remember watching dudes who weren't fit, 963 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: and they weren't fit for three or four practices, three 964 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,439 Speaker 1: or four weeks of practice, so probably like ten total 965 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,240 Speaker 1: practices and they just haven't put good stuff on film, 966 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: so they reshuffle the depth chart. They're the fourth guy. 967 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: You're the third guy. All of a sudden, you go 968 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: to training camp and then you make the team and 969 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: they it's just it's part of the piece. So just 970 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: to always be ready. 971 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 3: I think it's to going away and coming backpoint. 972 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 2: And I think that's why it never bothered me because 973 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 2: unlike a lot of players, I didn't leave in the summer. 974 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 3: This was home for them. 975 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 2: So I think it's the traveling too, because you go, 976 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 2: you give yourself two weeks to take off. Your wife 977 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 2: probably demanded some times. You gave you the most of 978 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 2: the year. So I think that then when you pop 979 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 2: out of it, then it's right back into this. I 980 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,800 Speaker 2: think this the thing that mentally kind of chatted his players. 981 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 4: Most of the guys who have it, who have it, 982 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 4: have a good routine. They have a cutoff. And I 983 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 4: think I had a great routine. I knew if I 984 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 4: went in the playoffs or if I got other playoffs 985 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,720 Speaker 4: something fast, I'm going home getting all that out my system. 986 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 4: Come April seventeenth, whatever they say that that report day 987 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 4: my birthday, I'm gonna be ready because February third or second, 988 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,919 Speaker 4: or whenever the Fluper Bowl is overwhe that's my first 989 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,919 Speaker 4: day of getting back in shape. So when that's who 990 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 4: Bowl's done, I'm back to grinding. And so by the 991 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 4: time I hit April seventeen, when they say reporting day, 992 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 4: I'm ready. So you know, you got to have a 993 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 4: routine because you want to enjoy your off time too. 994 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 4: And when I got here, it was better that way 995 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 4: because I was comfortable with coming up here when I 996 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 4: didn't have to be here. You understaying. When I was 997 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 4: in New York, I didn't he hated New York. I 998 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 4: didn't want to see New York until I had to 999 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 4: be there. And but nah, man, but it's all about 1000 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 4: being a professional, and you you learned that over the years. 1001 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 4: You learn it over time. April seventeen one of the 1002 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 4: best days ever. You know, this day I was birthed, 1003 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 4: Santanna Mama was birthed. 1004 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 3: It's to day Game of Throne started. 1005 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: Good day. It's a good day. I got kind of 1006 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: a mess up story about being in shape. Do you 1007 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 1: remember in thirteen we had that conditioning test where we 1008 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: had to run a half gasser and then we had 1009 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: to plank. Yes, So I remember Old ray Wright was like, guys, 1010 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: you know, we're getting ready for tomorrow for first practices. 1011 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: The day after this. So if you guys feel like 1012 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,919 Speaker 1: you can't finish, just tap out. We don't want anyone 1013 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 1: pull any hamshrinks something like that. I was like, that 1014 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:27,320 Speaker 1: is the trap. That's a trap. Everyone paying attention probably 1015 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: was being serious. But I'll tell you two people that 1016 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,839 Speaker 1: was this is a hard that was a hard condition. Yeah. 1017 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 3: I remember. 1018 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 4: My back was created up enrichment. 1019 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. And it was hot. 1020 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was. 1021 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,439 Speaker 1: It was just it was eight down in backs, right, 1022 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 1: but in between you had to make it in fifteen 1023 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,479 Speaker 1: fourteen seconds was much light. Yeah, yeah, it was like twelve. 1024 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 1: I was like fifteen, which is fast for me. And 1025 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 1: then he had you had forty five second plank and 1026 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 1: you had to get up and run your next one. 1027 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: So there was no like rest, You're just running the 1028 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: whole time. And so thank god I finished. You know, 1029 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: my hamstrings all time, my back is all time. But 1030 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,720 Speaker 1: I finished. Two people didn't finish. Two people got. 1031 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 3: Cut, that's how. And they're softened to. 1032 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 4: Blow and tell you, you know, don't worry, do not worry 1033 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 4: just because you can't play here. 1034 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:08,720 Speaker 3: It's thirty one more team. 1035 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 4: Hey, it's funny though, I remember because it's like, well 1036 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 4: that's year thirteen for me. 1037 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 3: And I remember running mind and I'm being in. 1038 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 4: The front and I don't know what was black or 1039 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 4: was this Chad, but he was like, Tanner, come on, man, 1040 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 4: you're embarrassing these people out here. 1041 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,919 Speaker 3: So I'm like, bro, I'm just standing in the pack. 1042 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 4: I'm just trying to make sure you're trying to Yeah, 1043 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,720 Speaker 4: you a calling me out because I'm in the front, 1044 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 4: like you want me to be in the back. But 1045 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 4: it's just funny because like they play those Jedi mind 1046 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 4: tricks with you just to see where you're at mint, 1047 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, see and see it's okay, 1048 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 4: good enough for you bingo And man, look man, I 1049 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 4: never took that stuff for granted, Like I just told 1050 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 4: you that was your thirteen for me competing with these 1051 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 4: all these young bucks. I'm up there leading the pack, 1052 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 4: but I never wanted to be first. I wanted to 1053 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:49,760 Speaker 4: be right. 1054 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:50,359 Speaker 3: There to stand. 1055 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,399 Speaker 4: I wanted that second and third, you know when when 1056 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 4: that last one hit, that last one was always. 1057 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 2: They need to understand after the conditioning test, we are 1058 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 2: just laying scattered on the grass like y'all need to understand. 1059 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 2: Y'all understand like we only had like thirteen the d 1060 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 2: d's and wide out. Every time we look at our time, 1061 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 2: we don't even I tried not to even look like. 1062 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 3: We're gonna do like three gas. I was like, we 1063 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 3: probably got due hours and what ten cent? Come on this. 1064 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: Some of those receiver times were three strides. 1065 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 4: You already say I'm late. Yeah, and you can feel 1066 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 4: your number. 1067 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 3: You're like, nut this line and come back knocks. 1068 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: Want no wild story talking about like Trent Williams. Remember Trent. 1069 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 1: I remember one day he was like messing around and 1070 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: someone was talking messed him. He's like, I'll run the 1071 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 1: receiver times and I was like, no, no, And Trent 1072 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: made every receiver time so half gasser twelve and a 1073 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 1: half seconds. That man weigh three hundred thirty pounds. Yeah, 1074 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: it was like a deer. And I was like looking 1075 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 1: out of the corner of my eye like, oh my god. 1076 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna make it anything now. 1077 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 2: Then I tell people the big dudes in the league 1078 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 2: are not fat, Like when you see that fat dude 1079 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 2: in the grocery store and wig, he was like he 1080 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 2: could have played for No, he couldn't. 1081 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,919 Speaker 3: He can't run, he can't move, he can't move. 1082 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 2: So at the end of the day. These are big men, 1083 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 2: big athletic, they have to like fight to keep with 1084 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 2: this three hundred pounds on them. 1085 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 3: I think people just see him and be like, yeah, 1086 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 3: he probably could have played six six three. No, your 1087 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 3: uncle stinks. Due up to me to tell you that. 1088 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 1: The other one that was crazy so Trent obviously very 1089 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: fast and athletic. I remember he got in a fight 1090 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: with a defensive tackle, big old defensive tackle. I think 1091 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: it was uh. I forget how he was. I remember 1092 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: him being like three hundred and sixty five pounds, and 1093 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: so I got in there trying to break it up, 1094 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, And it felt like 1095 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 1: I was trying to break up a fight between my 1096 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: dad and somebody else. I just I couldn't get my 1097 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,399 Speaker 1: I was just like, oh god, and I'm a I'm 1098 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 1: not a small person, you know what I'm saying. But 1099 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 1: I remember coming out of there, I was like, man, 1100 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 1: my elbow, herst, my fingers hurt. 1101 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,919 Speaker 3: Like we had a big browl. Yeah. 1102 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 2: See this he before ten, the guy he had. I 1103 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 2: think we was called the Jet Skins. We signed everybody 1104 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 2: from the Randy Tummys als. He and pretty Boy, Chad 1105 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 2: Boy and I'll never forget. It was like the second 1106 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 2: practice and he talked Chad a sweep or something, and 1107 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 2: don't I think he was trying not to go out 1108 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 2: of boughs and be kind of like almost cut me low. 1109 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,800 Speaker 3: Oh no, you ain't gonna do that. We didn't. 1110 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 2: We didn't got him like like a twenty person's. 1111 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 3: Braw hole out there. And listen, I'm at the bottom 1112 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 3: of it. I think to stay alive, you understand. You 1113 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 3: know what's funny and funny about that. 1114 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 4: Everywhere Chad went bro he had these kind of in 1115 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 4: the jazz bro Listen, I love Chad. He was he 1116 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 4: was returning slash part returning like me, and but it 1117 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 4: just was something about him. 1118 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 3: He was. He was booge. 1119 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 4: He was confident, but he was a different type of guy. 1120 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 4: Like if you had to compare Chad, I would I 1121 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 4: would say this is probably how the industry looked at Prince. Yes, 1122 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 4: a pretty guy, yes, but Prince was not pressed about 1123 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 4: his business pressle put hands on you, not. 1124 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 3: This Chad with But Chad will fight. Chad will fight. 1125 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like Tom down through that, I'm just saying, 1126 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 3: like the Chad I knew. 1127 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 4: From the Jets because he's so strong, always gotta tried, 1128 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 4: but he was ready, you know what I'm saying. But 1129 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 4: he was a pretty dude. 1130 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 3: But he would come in the locker room and look 1131 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 3: at the ugly dude that just. 1132 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 4: Then I'd be like, Chad, did you get your eyebrows? 1133 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 3: Arch? Yes? Like then he walked in. 1134 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 4: With this this essence did you he had about you 1135 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 4: know what I mean? Like it was just like when 1136 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 4: he walked in the room, like his presence was felt 1137 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 4: and it wasn't. 1138 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 3: A good good because you got all the clothes fully 1139 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:50,839 Speaker 3: dressed in a suit. 1140 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 2: And his brother, Johnny mord ain't nothing like him, only 1141 00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:57,879 Speaker 2: different dude. 1142 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 4: Johnny. Johnny was mm a fight after he's damn all right, 1143 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,799 Speaker 4: Yeah it is probably, but look, don't get me your 1144 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 4: own I he smooth, but Chad to fight, you. 1145 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 3: Weak out of me. 1146 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 1: So the ones that were always like the coldest, for 1147 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 1: guys that didn't say anything. It was just like, oh, 1148 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 1: it's like it's happening. 1149 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 3: It's our own dude. 1150 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 1: I remember like Niles Noiles now was my guy, one 1151 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 1: of my favorite teammates of all time. I remember like 1152 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 1: anytime he'd be like, we're gonna fight, you know, and 1153 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 1: like it was like, oh, come on and now just 1154 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 1: be like and it's his hands on the face mask, 1155 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 1: like there was no like oh, like no posture. It 1156 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 1: was like we're fighting and the guys like, no, we're not. 1157 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 1: It was like, oh, check me out. 1158 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 2: See some of them fight. That can't be broken up 1159 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 2: because we had one with LeVar and another of man 1160 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 2: a lad Back. It's crazy though I couldn't break it up. 1161 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: The thing I don't get is like sometimes they get 1162 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: their hands on each other and you're trying to break 1163 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 1: them up and then someone will grab you and it 1164 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 1: just turns into this and we just dragging each other. 1165 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 1: Four texts of dragging people around. 1166 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 3: It's all kind of PREDI like, w W had. 1167 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 4: This, They had this whole this. I don't know this. 1168 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 4: It was like a folk tale. 1169 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 3: But we got to fight with that. 1170 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 4: This guy, Casey Jones for the University of Miami thing. 1171 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 3: He was a big time lineman. 1172 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 4: I'm not sure if I'm saying a name right for 1173 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 4: the story. His his whotel was got ready to fight 1174 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 4: somebody and he just grabbed his face mask and gripped 1175 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 4: it off his damn helmet and they were like the 1176 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 4: fight was over. 1177 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 3: They say more the coaches than everybody was like stopped everybody. 1178 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 3: Do you remember Doug. 1179 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 1: Worthington did that you're here, you're here with that. So 1180 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 1: there was a big fight, like everyone was on each 1181 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: other and there was a backup center Mike, I think 1182 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 1: Mike McGlinchey, Mike something like that and little kind of 1183 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 1: squatty you know, like dirty offensive lineman. And Doug was 1184 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: just this adonis. He's six six, he's three thirty. He 1185 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,839 Speaker 1: carries around a suitcase full of vitamins with him at 1186 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 1: all times, so he looks like a just look like 1187 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 1: a door. So he grabs Mike's face mask and just 1188 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm talking kind of. 1189 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 3: Just shears, shears the screws. 1190 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 1: Like didn't pull the screws out of the fitting, like 1191 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 1: the metal screw was sheared. And then in the meeting, 1192 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 1: our guy Jay was like, hey, Doug, just remember there's 1193 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 1: a pissed us on Monday. 1194 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,439 Speaker 3: So oh, Derek Gordon was like that. But just there's 1195 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 3: dudes that, just some dudes dudes that. 1196 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,439 Speaker 2: Hey, you know what, I'm a lover, not a fight. 1197 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 2: Sometimes you got to be like you know what, not now, 1198 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 2: not never, not ever, not with you. You got murdered. 1199 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 3: That's why he moved in my house and I cooked 1200 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:37,799 Speaker 3: breakfast for him. Everything right. 1201 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,359 Speaker 1: And then all these names got me thinking. We were 1202 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,800 Speaker 1: talking about last week, we were talking about NB NBA, NFL. 1203 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,359 Speaker 1: Who could do both. I'm still staunchly in the camp 1204 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: that I don't think any NFL players could play. 1205 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 3: In the end. And I think you, I know you, 1206 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:50,400 Speaker 3: I know you. 1207 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,800 Speaker 1: You're also very confident. But what I thought would be 1208 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,399 Speaker 1: a good idea, Jason thought would be a good idea. 1209 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:59,439 Speaker 1: Let's make a team of guys that we think could 1210 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 1: play that played in the NFL. Yeah, they could play 1211 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 1: in the NBA. We're gonna make our starting five plus 1212 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,919 Speaker 1: a bonus man with six so point guard, shooting guard, 1213 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 1: small forward, power forward, center. And I think it'd be 1214 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,400 Speaker 1: good if we did a commander's team and then maybe 1215 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 1: an NFL team. You know what I'm saying. So I 1216 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 1: know what, friends, I don't even have to see Fred's paper. 1217 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, who's gonna be your point guard? 1218 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 1: That's a stupid question. I was gonna say me, all right, Russell. 1219 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 2: Russell Curry is what they call because I'm an athlete 1220 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,359 Speaker 2: like Russell, but I shoot like stiff Russell Curry at 1221 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 2: the point guard, and I'm. 1222 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,319 Speaker 3: A well in a half, this was not gonna well 1223 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:34,319 Speaker 3: one slash too. 1224 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 4: I got Randy Well that's my point going. Oh I 1225 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 4: like that played he played in college and guess it 1226 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 4: was Yeah, No, he played in Indiana. You remember I 1227 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,799 Speaker 4: told you I was going to Indiana When I went 1228 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 4: for my trip. It was a dual trip football basketball, 1229 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 4: and guess who was playing on both teams? 1230 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 2: Then Rady Leo was the point guard and the quarterback. 1231 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 2: And I was gonna be able to play Why receive 1232 00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 2: Wacona and basketball? 1233 00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 3: X randle You know he a man? 1234 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 1: Why is everything he says sounds like he's making it up. 1235 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:09,240 Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not. I went to Bloomington on a trip. 1236 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 1: Okay, all right? 1237 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 4: So who is who? You? 1238 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 3: No? 1239 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 1: I got? I got a question for it. If there's 1240 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 1: someone who could play point guard in the NFL right now, 1241 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 1: like you're like this dude could play like right now, Yeah, 1242 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 1: if there's a guy that like circle him, you could 1243 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 1: do it. 1244 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:26,879 Speaker 4: All right? See I ain't he's saying point god, point god, like. 1245 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm thinking like, well, like Sauce Gardner, like somebody like that, 1246 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 1: like kind of that build. 1247 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I think would be a two. 1248 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 1: Okay, but he's sixty three, I know it. 1249 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 2: But he got that lymp that like he'll be a 1250 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 2: jump shooter point guard. It's gonna have to be a quarterback. 1251 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,919 Speaker 2: Like most time it's a shroud. Have you ever seen 1252 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,320 Speaker 2: Pat Mahons play basketball? 1253 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,440 Speaker 3: Plaid out hoop? Really plaid out hoop. 1254 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 4: But I'm saying, and it looks just like his football. 1255 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 3: He's out there. Why couldn't listen. 1256 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 4: The way the way he's making shots, Like it's like 1257 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 4: you mean, like crossing people. 1258 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 3: Hey, I think Geno Schmiel probably can hoop. Yeah, he 1259 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,719 Speaker 3: looks like a thing hoop dude. 1260 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 1: The Mahomes thingers wild to me, though. 1261 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,799 Speaker 3: Mahomes can hoop. Crowd like he can hoop. 1262 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,359 Speaker 4: Now, Mahomes a great point guard. I saw Mahomes play 1263 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 4: pickup game in the off season. 1264 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,719 Speaker 2: I saw him playing high school and I felt like, yeah, 1265 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:23,720 Speaker 2: he could did. 1266 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 1: It all right. So now we're on the shooting guards 1267 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 1: for the Commanders. 1268 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,919 Speaker 4: Can I'm gonna go I'm gonna go with d Hall. 1269 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 2: I can say he was on my paper the hawk 1270 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 2: and hoop, Yeah, I mean the holle hoop all the 1271 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 2: time in lifetime. 1272 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:35,840 Speaker 1: He's a great athlete. 1273 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 3: No, he can hoop. But I'm taking Jason Campbell. 1274 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 4: Go d holl it's a two. 1275 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 3: Jason. Jason is sixty five always. 1276 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 2: Jason had a basketball Scotch Ship coming out of Mississippi. 1277 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 3: When we were younger. He was a three three. 1278 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 4: Star and d hall of Malcolm Kelly. Malcolm Kelly was 1279 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 4: Malcolm Kelly. Yes, macom Kelly hoop. 1280 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 1: See that's the thing with me. I would say Jordan 1281 00:52:58,280 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 1: Reid for my two. 1282 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,360 Speaker 3: Jordan he had my three. 1283 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 1: That's my small dude. I just think I want him 1284 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:05,319 Speaker 1: touching the ball more. 1285 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, he definitely in basketball term, he had 1286 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 4: to be a two because he's not as tall as 1287 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 4: he would be in the but but he's strong. 1288 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 3: He he's strong. 1289 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,480 Speaker 1: But the other thing is everybody that I played with 1290 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: said they could play basketball, and he's the only one 1291 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: that could actually Like, Yeah, he played hoop. So he's 1292 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,160 Speaker 1: gonna be on my He's on my list, my small 1293 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:25,439 Speaker 1: four on my list for sure. 1294 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 3: But I'm small around the league. Who got basketball. 1295 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: Around the league? Who we got for a two guards. 1296 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:33,439 Speaker 3: Around the league? 1297 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:39,720 Speaker 4: Now, I got your boy, DK metcow. 1298 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,719 Speaker 3: Hoop y'all play him five, Garrett, he just so he is. 1299 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 1: He is. 1300 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 4: Show my. 1301 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 3: DK of t O t used to play basketball. 1302 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,880 Speaker 2: Now t could flat out hoop and DK and most 1303 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,439 Speaker 2: doing a J Brown, a JJ Brown. 1304 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 1: I was just say Julio Jones, like when I was 1305 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,160 Speaker 1: with him in Atlanta, Dude, that guy is just you 1306 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:01,439 Speaker 1: can jump, you can run. 1307 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 4: You know who could do all that too, Odell Beckham, 1308 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 4: Yeah he can. 1309 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 3: Randy Mouse to Randy get fled out? 1310 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like that Randy Moss. Yeah that'd be sick. Yeah, 1311 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 1: all right, small forward who we got? 1312 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,960 Speaker 4: I got Trent Trent. So I thought Trent maybe be 1313 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,799 Speaker 4: power forward. See I thought so too for us. He's 1314 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,279 Speaker 4: a power forward. But if you put him against a 1315 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 4: basketball guy six four, they'll be so much bigger than him. 1316 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 1: And get him down there in the paint. 1317 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:27,279 Speaker 3: He gonna be big. Baby. 1318 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,360 Speaker 4: Dave is in the paint now, he can move stand, 1319 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 4: but he'll be shorter than the average like John Barker. 1320 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,879 Speaker 1: But let's get him. Let's we're gonna play positionless football here. 1321 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 1: We got to right were positions of basketball. We're gonna 1322 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 1: spread them out, but we need somebody in there to 1323 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 1: bang around a lot did you imagine him and like 1324 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 1: Victor webbin Yama, like he'll be pushing Victor after what 1325 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,839 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Victor webban Yama's arms are like as long 1326 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:48,399 Speaker 1: as this room. 1327 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:49,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, understand. 1328 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,799 Speaker 2: It's like I understanding, Rob Gartner, My whole boy got 1329 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:54,440 Speaker 2: dreaded with up. 1330 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,280 Speaker 3: Oh he can hoop. He might couldn't catch a football. 1331 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:03,759 Speaker 2: Let me tell you, no, he just won the amazing race. 1332 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 3: He's built like a picture of him. 1333 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 1: And I was like, this. 1334 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,320 Speaker 4: Actually had a thousand yard season, our second in the league. 1335 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:16,280 Speaker 4: So he he he had a system where they started 1336 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 4: feeding other people and he and it's kind of his 1337 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,760 Speaker 4: history direct every thing that he mo joan. 1338 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,799 Speaker 3: But Rob Gardner can flat out who what. 1339 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,800 Speaker 1: About around the league? I was thinking, like Calvin Johnson 1340 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:26,400 Speaker 1: or something like that. 1341 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:31,319 Speaker 3: Okay, Calvin gent make like this. Every receiver it was 1342 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 3: played for Detroit, Roy we call him all. 1343 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,160 Speaker 2: I remember one time I played against Detroit and Charles 1344 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 2: Rogers was the slot receive at six y four, really. 1345 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 4: Getting Roy William were six wives, give me your boy, 1346 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 4: go ahead, finish Roy six fives. 1347 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 2: So they had like all these talk first round picks 1348 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,960 Speaker 2: now huge wide receivers. 1349 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 3: I think Dez Bryant could be a give me good basketball, 1350 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:56,840 Speaker 3: give me Gates. 1351 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,360 Speaker 1: That's easy, Tony, cause say, let me just go getting 1352 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 1: Zola's dead, Jim, don't. 1353 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 4: Forget about the d N North Carolina Pepper. 1354 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 3: What are we doing? He's gonna be yes, people's in there. 1355 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 4: I also say, you know, I would have said Andre Johnson, 1356 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 4: but small four, I probably put him more of a 1357 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:23,040 Speaker 4: shooting guard. Andre Johnson, Yeah, he went to high school 1358 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,920 Speaker 4: to play basketball. His high school was His high school 1359 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 4: was a team that won national championship in Miami, like 1360 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,920 Speaker 4: almost every year they had U d there. They had 1361 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,040 Speaker 4: a lot of guys that went pro and and Dre 1362 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 4: was there as a basketball player. At the football coach 1363 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 4: they come out for the football team, so he never 1364 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:37,799 Speaker 4: practiced with the football team. 1365 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,840 Speaker 3: Ward, Oh yeah, sure, Ward. 1366 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:45,440 Speaker 2: I take Runner Curry about like Runner Currell was a 1367 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,040 Speaker 2: bigger recruit than Michael Vick. 1368 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,880 Speaker 4: When they came out of Virginia. Yes, run a Curry. 1369 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,760 Speaker 4: See whist thing about Michael Vick. He was not highly 1370 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,040 Speaker 4: sought out coming out of high school. But by the 1371 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 4: time he got and played in college. Who is this? 1372 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:01,040 Speaker 4: Who is this kid? 1373 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,360 Speaker 1: All right? So small forward, we're gonna run out of 1374 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,880 Speaker 1: people here, No, not really, but turn to fill a 1375 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,239 Speaker 1: roster power Ford. Who we got? 1376 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 3: I got LeVar Arrington? 1377 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 1: Really tell me why who? First of all, if I 1378 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:12,000 Speaker 1: got a. 1379 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 4: Forty Plusch's vertical and you know he's six thrill, you 1380 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 4: got LeVar Arrington. I got my man Abraham from John 1381 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,240 Speaker 4: Johnny Abraham. Yeah, the Jets, from the Jets, Old Joe 1382 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 4: playing in Atlanta with you too. I think he was 1383 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 4: done by that time. 1384 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 3: What about Drake Hall Just what about Drake Cotty? I 1385 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 3: think Hoop just ain't got it? Got it boy? You 1386 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:35,880 Speaker 3: know he's tall enough, but he ain't. 1387 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 1: Like yeah, Like, it's just so hard because this position 1388 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,200 Speaker 1: in the NBA is such a unique body type. You 1389 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's like you need a guy 1390 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:44,920 Speaker 1: who's like six seven, but. 1391 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,000 Speaker 3: Get what go against the norm Charles Barkleys against the noise. 1392 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,160 Speaker 3: But Baby Davids, we're. 1393 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 4: Not saying we're not in this whole debate that these 1394 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 4: guys can go and play. We're just saying this is 1395 00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:57,720 Speaker 4: the team we would make. So I just want to 1396 00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 4: get that clip before you, Oh you think those guys 1397 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 4: because you know, get a little that. 1398 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 2: But but I remember when I first got in the league. 1399 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,160 Speaker 2: We used to the NFC East used to meet and 1400 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,960 Speaker 2: hoop in the summer time, and we used to do 1401 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 2: it all the time in Dallas. So we used to 1402 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 2: literally go edit man like all the time, and guys 1403 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,520 Speaker 2: could way better than you thought they could. 1404 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if I played with anybody who would 1405 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaker 1: be like a good power forward uh Fred Johnson, b 1406 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 1: J Brad Johnson. I want to say, like Miles Garrett 1407 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:32,680 Speaker 1: for this, or like Pepper s would be the other one. 1408 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 1: I'd say here I played with. I feel like, is 1409 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:40,040 Speaker 1: there an offensive lineman that is like just crazy, like 1410 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 1: like would he be a good one? 1411 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:47,240 Speaker 4: Chris Sammuews Chris got them sugar them sugar ankles, you know, 1412 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 4: like them sugar antle like that in church. 1413 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:49,680 Speaker 1: Now. 1414 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 2: Chris ain't no hoop hoop like saying be man McKenna. 1415 00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 2: Some of them they can play tack. They cannot play basketball. 1416 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,439 Speaker 2: No big Mac just human is huge. I think people 1417 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:05,440 Speaker 2: don't understand. 1418 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 3: How big the dude is. 1419 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:10,160 Speaker 4: Man ain't playing, ain't gonna play no ball now. I 1420 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 4: think you can find some tight ends period that'll be 1421 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,520 Speaker 4: good power forward. Tight end definitely. 1422 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:18,160 Speaker 3: Put that, But. 1423 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,320 Speaker 2: Listen, tight ends can get the job done. We already 1424 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 2: brought up Jimmy Graham. We're like tight ends can get 1425 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 2: the job done. They rougher than basketball player. They gonn 1426 00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 2: they're gonna be stronging in basketball players. 1427 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,120 Speaker 1: Who would you pick? Like from uh from Washington? 1428 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,919 Speaker 2: Like who we already said Jordan Reid is probably the best. 1429 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 2: I mean all right, uh, what's the name right now? 1430 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:42,600 Speaker 2: Let's go on the roster right now? 1431 00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 3: Cole Turner probably. 1432 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 4: Like easier you could have got your boy who just 1433 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 4: was here last year? 1434 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,400 Speaker 3: Eighty two, uh, eighty two Logan, Thomas Loga. 1435 00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,920 Speaker 2: Thomas Logan, Thomas most definitely what about the other kid 1436 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 2: we got. 1437 00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:00,360 Speaker 1: Curtis Hurtis hot out with the money. 1438 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:01,640 Speaker 3: Ron Rogers like. 1439 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,160 Speaker 4: You can fly out a hoop, Yeah, like a the 1440 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,560 Speaker 4: wide receiver eighty nine, Oh, Tremade Tremaine. 1441 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,920 Speaker 1: He's six five though. That's the thing. Basketball players are 1442 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,200 Speaker 1: so big, bro so big. So yeah, not really good 1443 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,320 Speaker 1: answer for for hot center. We hadn't mean for center. 1444 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,600 Speaker 4: Because now it's all about it's all about strength at 1445 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:19,080 Speaker 4: the center. 1446 01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:19,720 Speaker 3: It ain't around. 1447 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 4: They got more center shooting freeball, and that's and that's 1448 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,360 Speaker 4: the reason why my Timperwolf losing because we can't get 1449 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 4: Big Cat to get in the post. 1450 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,160 Speaker 3: He want to shoot through threes all day. 1451 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:31,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, sugar cat. 1452 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,320 Speaker 3: Can we need him in the post where Rudy go 1453 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:37,360 Speaker 3: bath sugar Cane. Yeah, we can't do nothing with him. 1454 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,840 Speaker 1: We know, like Trent Brown, the tackle for Cincinnaty's six eight, 1455 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:41,960 Speaker 1: he's like four hundred pounds. 1456 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 3: What about thanos to get him out there. 1457 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, come on now, and we see 1458 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 2: the dude right But for North Carolina State the basketball 1459 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:53,480 Speaker 2: player the three hundred. 1460 01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,280 Speaker 1: Pounds, oh yeah, yeah, and. 1461 01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,440 Speaker 2: You know they say a couple of inn NFL teams 1462 01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,720 Speaker 2: called him. Yeah, and he didn't sitting the five pounds 1463 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,000 Speaker 2: for the NBA DREP. So he looks his body looks 1464 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,080 Speaker 2: totally right now, so they go, they go, a football 1465 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,680 Speaker 2: player playing basketball right there. 1466 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 3: If you really want to know, like ether like big z, 1467 01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 3: what the dude name was? 1468 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 4: Who played in Rudolf Zack Randolpha, Yep, you're a mommy man. 1469 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Uh, Center London Fletcher, I don't know. 1470 01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,479 Speaker 3: I have no no London. We're gonna bring London sixps on. 1471 01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,720 Speaker 1: Your paper for the further commanders for the center. 1472 01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 3: Y'all blew Mine often said Drake Conter can't play no. 1473 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:31,320 Speaker 2: Basketball, y'all saying Drake, I gotta get I gotta get somebody. 1474 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 3: This ro like that. Drake comes off as Dennis Rodman. 1475 01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:36,680 Speaker 3: I'm only here to rebound. 1476 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:41,960 Speaker 1: What he'd be doing like Morgan Moses. Is he nimble 1477 01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:45,360 Speaker 1: enoughing I hoop with him sometimes? 1478 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:46,200 Speaker 3: Is he nimble enough? 1479 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:46,760 Speaker 1: He's pretty? 1480 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,480 Speaker 4: Okay, Well you know something that I don't know. 1481 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:49,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that what I'm saying. 1482 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 2: So guys like that maybe, and I'm telling you LeVar 1483 01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 2: hell of an athlete. Man, Okay, I got the perfect guy. 1484 01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,720 Speaker 2: Plexico Burds for the center as a senator, plex six 1485 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:01,400 Speaker 2: six man. 1486 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,800 Speaker 3: He put him into the plex Plexic for next here receiver. 1487 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,680 Speaker 4: He ain't trying to get down that bang and ain't small, no, 1488 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,520 Speaker 4: but he ain't banging like plex was like this, not 1489 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:11,560 Speaker 4: play basketball. 1490 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm just talking body type. And Johnny Wilson that came 1491 01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,040 Speaker 1: from Philadelphia, easy dude. He looks like a ball player. 1492 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope he ain't. Hope hehi't ball that I want. 1493 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,160 Speaker 3: I want to get him. I hope he balled out, 1494 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:22,919 Speaker 3: but no, don't. 1495 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,520 Speaker 1: All right, So six man who we got London flood 1496 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,480 Speaker 1: to Fletcher my six man, Leonon Fletcher low. 1497 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 3: Green coming off the bench. 1498 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,360 Speaker 4: Did he play and commplate in college? 1499 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:33,640 Speaker 3: London can flat out now. 1500 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 2: I know he used to get hoop before he got 1501 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,720 Speaker 2: that dad by went to school to play back. 1502 01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,160 Speaker 3: But right he could hoop. 1503 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:43,040 Speaker 1: Now he probably my point guard man, No would be gritty, 1504 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:44,640 Speaker 1: just gritty tough. 1505 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:46,120 Speaker 3: That was Russell Curry out. 1506 01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,720 Speaker 4: I feel, I feel I like London period. I told 1507 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,600 Speaker 4: him he was trying lending to my six man. I 1508 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,959 Speaker 4: just put him in six member because I used to trying. 1509 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:57,160 Speaker 1: He was always trying. 1510 01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 4: He always got agenda when to come to London. 1511 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:03,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know if he came up with 1512 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:07,080 Speaker 1: a good team. So we got Fred Smooth, Jason Campbell, 1513 01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:11,600 Speaker 1: h we got the house, Jordan Reid, Powerford. I heard 1514 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,680 Speaker 1: who we said for power forward, LeVar LeVar, and then 1515 01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,600 Speaker 1: the center. We didn't really have a good Oh Trent 1516 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 1: Trent Williams. That's not bad. That's not a bad starting five. 1517 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 1: And then London that's all right. 1518 01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,960 Speaker 4: The boys ain't gona win no games. 1519 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:24,400 Speaker 3: Playing the camp Boys. 1520 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:31,040 Speaker 4: Who they got the Giants game that everybody size, everybody 1521 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:32,240 Speaker 4: has a side deficiency. 1522 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,360 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, if is there any I can't 1523 01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,280 Speaker 1: even think of one person of this list that that 1524 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:41,000 Speaker 1: is even close to making every roster, even even even 1525 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:42,000 Speaker 1: like Miles Garrett. 1526 01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:43,920 Speaker 3: Miles Garrett would make it. 1527 01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 4: No, he ain't. 1528 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,000 Speaker 1: Man. That man is like two league. 1529 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:50,520 Speaker 3: But think about it. 1530 01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,320 Speaker 2: If he was in basketball, he wouldn't be trying to 1531 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 2: be the biggest he would he He just. 1532 01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:55,960 Speaker 4: He just big like. 1533 01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,959 Speaker 3: You. I understand. Some kids just come out beat. 1534 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:01,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a big old horse. 1535 01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. That what I'm saying. Can you name me? 1536 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:07,440 Speaker 1: Name me one person, one player in the NFL that 1537 01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,000 Speaker 1: can play in the NBA right now? One? 1538 01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,000 Speaker 3: First of all, I promise you was one hundreds of them. 1539 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:17,000 Speaker 4: Hundreds hundreds ain't to be in an argument stopping you 1540 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,080 Speaker 4: know me would be. 1541 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you how this guy, this guy probably 1542 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,360 Speaker 2: can't play no football, but. 1543 01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:24,120 Speaker 4: He can hoo. 1544 01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:29,960 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones, Okay, quarterback for the Giant. Listen to me. 1545 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:34,440 Speaker 3: Have you watch this dude shoot basketball all? Watch his 1546 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:35,400 Speaker 3: hoigh draft? 1547 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:36,720 Speaker 1: How have you watched some shoot. 1548 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:38,640 Speaker 3: I don't know how I can't pack just clipping here 1549 01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,080 Speaker 3: doing three sixty. Dog? You say he can't, he can't, 1550 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:42,280 Speaker 3: he can't play No quarterback. 1551 01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:42,640 Speaker 4: He can't. 1552 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,680 Speaker 3: He can't play every time. Yeah, I know he can 1553 01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:46,920 Speaker 3: play two two weeks. 1554 01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:51,680 Speaker 2: But what I'm saying he damn Youel Jones can flat out? 1555 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 1: But is it? 1556 01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,080 Speaker 2: Is it NBA? Let me tell you something. T O 1557 01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,560 Speaker 2: could have played in the in in NBA. I'm telling 1558 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,439 Speaker 2: you now, Terrell on Terrell play in college too. 1559 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:03,600 Speaker 3: There's a lot of dudes that play in college. 1560 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:04,400 Speaker 1: You can't play in the NBA. 1561 01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:08,200 Speaker 2: Well, get what Charlie Wood said, you know what, forget football, 1562 01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:08,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go. 1563 01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:09,840 Speaker 3: Hoop for the Knicks And he did. 1564 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:11,240 Speaker 1: That's one guy. 1565 01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,560 Speaker 4: Come on, come on't I know? 1566 01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? I keep looking at you like I'm gonna get 1567 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,760 Speaker 1: support from you. But all right, So okay, a couple 1568 01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,560 Speaker 1: of things leave in the comments. First off, what's your 1569 01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,840 Speaker 1: starting five from commanders in from around the NFL. Two? 1570 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,600 Speaker 1: Is there one player you can think of from Monte 1571 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,280 Speaker 1: Adams from a high weight speed standpoint, they could play 1572 01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,000 Speaker 1: in the NBA. Please leave a comment, can't wait to 1573 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,160 Speaker 1: hear and we'll read the best answer on the next show. 1574 01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,440 Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for. That's gonna do it for 1575 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,480 Speaker 1: today's show. Thanks so much for joining joining us, and 1576 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,360 Speaker 1: please make sure to like and subscribe wherever you get 1577 01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,480 Speaker 1: your podcast. If you want to see ugly faces, check 1578 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:46,320 Speaker 1: check us out on YouTube. Thanks so much. 1579 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:52,919 Speaker 3: That's it, hey. 1580 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 1: The views and opinions expressed by our podcast guests and 1581 01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,600 Speaker 1: or hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect 1582 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,400 Speaker 1: the view or positions of the Washington Commanders or any 1583 01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:03,440 Speaker 1: of their representatives.