1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Oh so body has to do with mouth feel? Oh 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: my god, I knew you were gonna say it a. 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: Little more more better. 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 3: At more and better, got a little bit. 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: More better more. 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 3: Hi, friends, Welcome to More Better, a podcast where we 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 3: stop pretending to have it all together and embrace the 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 3: journey of becoming a little more better every day. I 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 3: mean we're trying to that's smallest of f marrow and 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 3: that's Stephanie Beatrice And here. 11 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: We are and here we are. Welcome back, friend, Hey 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: brought out the gate. What'd you do this week that 13 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: was more better? Oh? 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 4: You know? 15 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,959 Speaker 3: One thing I've been doing this week because it's been 16 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: a little nutty nutty in my schedule these last few weeks, 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: I am trying to go to bed early. It's a 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: little thing. It makes a big difference. I have put 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 3: him a butt in the bed at nine pm, and 20 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 3: I have been falling asleep by like nine fifteen thirty. 21 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: And it is really helped me out, really helped me out. 22 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: You're a better man than me. 23 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 3: This is intentional with effort. 24 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 5: You know. 25 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it. I get it. 26 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: What about you, Steff? I am so I'm investigating. I 27 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: don't know, I'm like taking steps toward I may invest 28 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: in one of those apps that like doesn't allow you 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: to open other apps on the phone, because I spend 30 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: a lot of time looking at the things that I'm like, 31 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: I'm over here on the substack, I'm over here on 32 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: the social media's. I'm although I've taken many of the 33 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: socials off of my phone, as I've mentioned to you. 34 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: But now I'm like getting to the place where now 35 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm reading the New York Times app, or 36 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: like I'm reading that app, or I'm looking at these articles, 37 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: or I'm like spinning out. So I just maybe you 38 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: need to read a book, but I can't. I'm not 39 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: grown up enough to tell myself to put my phone down. 40 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: I can't do that on my own. I need you 41 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: need an app. 42 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 2: For my app your phone after my apps, or I 43 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: just throw the whole smartphone away. Either way to progress 44 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: is going to be made. So check back in with 45 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: me next week to see what I've decided to do. 46 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: Maybe I have a burner phone by then, I don't know. 47 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: I'm intrigued, like an old yeah og flip phone. Maybe 48 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: is the answer, O G. 49 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: Baby, or you have to be like nine nine nine 50 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: nine nine to text an X. Remember that you'd be 51 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: like xoxo and it would take you fucking two minutes. 52 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 2: But you know what, our messages short and sweet until 53 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: the point they were to the. 54 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 3: Point more better. 55 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: Today, we're talking about one of my favorite things in 56 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: the world, whine, with Lucia Palm certified somalier and wine 57 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 2: content creator and educator. 58 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. Yeah, Melissa is really pumped. I am. 59 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: I love wine. 60 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: When you're an adult, people usually expect you to know 61 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 2: about things like alcohol and wine. 62 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: I don't know any. 63 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: Of that stuff, so we really wanted a toolkit to 64 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: help us look like we know about stuff like that. 65 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: I have some questions. I've been too embarrassed to ask 66 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: somebody who knows about wine because I'm not trying to 67 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: be in the restaurant asking the somalier having them look 68 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: at me like I'm a fool. 69 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: We wanted to ask somebody who actually knows. 70 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 4: Hi. Lucio, Welcome, Thank you, it's amazing to be here. 71 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for coming. We're so excited to have We're really 72 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: pumped about this. 73 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: You have like a whole title about it, and it's 74 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: a really cool sexy title. 75 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: Somalier. 76 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a sexy title. It is. 77 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: What does it mean exactly? 78 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 4: Just a wine steward. So somebody who knows all about wine, 79 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 4: and it's usually somebody works in a restaurant. 80 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: Isn't there like a crazy test to become a psalm? 81 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, definitely. There's like two different routes you can go. 82 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 4: There's the w set, which I didn't do, so I'm 83 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 4: gonna talk about the one I did, which was Court 84 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 4: of Masters. And there's a prerequisite where you take a 85 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 4: test and once you pass that, then you have to 86 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 4: wait a year to take the next test. And yeah, 87 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 4: it's super intense. And they also say that after you 88 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 4: pass that first part, you should study just like every 89 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 4: day and just immerse yourself in wine because of how 90 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 4: difficult it is. Wo So you have a glass of 91 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 4: white wine red, you have to guess the grape, the 92 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 4: year the wine was made, where it was made, and 93 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 4: then there's a really intense theory test. There's about like 94 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 4: eighty different wine questions that you also had to study 95 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 4: your butt for. And then they have a master samolier 96 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 4: who's quizzing you while you're opening up champagne in front 97 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 4: of them, and you can only make a whisper. 98 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: If it passed, you fail what I have failed my 99 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: somalia test hundreds of times? 100 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: At this point, it's not easy. 101 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 4: To open it quietly. Yeah, it takes a lot of practice. 102 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: Wait, do you get to use a dish towel? I 103 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: use a dish towel when I open champagne? Is that bad? 104 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 4: No? So they do actually want you to use what 105 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 4: they call serviette. So it's just like a fancy napkin 106 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 4: cloth napkin, and they do have you use that to 107 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 4: make sure that you know you're preventing any drippage. And 108 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 4: what my god, maybe not dish. 109 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: Towel, but the okay, fancy, I was fancy and I 110 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: didn't even know. 111 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: Look at me? 112 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 4: Howk at me? 113 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: There you go, because to me all summer trying to 114 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 3: open champagne bottles quietly. 115 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're it's going to be. 116 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna post a bunch of videos this summer 117 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 3: of me attempting to do that. 118 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: Because it's impossible. 119 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: Wait, so after the first test, then you take the 120 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: second test a year later, and then does everyone in 121 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 2: your life just bother you forever about how much you 122 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: know about wine? 123 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 4: Pretty much? I do get a lot of wine questions. 124 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: What's the main thing that people ask you about wine? 125 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 4: They'll usually just ask me, like, you know, what's a 126 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 4: good wine or a really expensive wine has to be good, right, 127 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 4: Like it's not it can't be good if it's not 128 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 4: really expensive. I've heard that one lot. What's the answer. 129 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 4: Definitely not. I think that there's all types of wine 130 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 4: that are at great values and prices. It really just 131 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 4: depends on the wine, which is some good news. 132 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: How did you get into that? 133 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: Like, how did you know that this is something that 134 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 2: you wanted to pursue as a career. 135 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 4: So I went to culinary school, actually the Culinary Institute 136 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 4: of America in New York, and initially I wanted to 137 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 4: be a chef. But during my internship I worked on 138 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 4: the line as a line cook, and I was like, uh, 139 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 4: I still love food, but this is not for me. 140 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 4: So when I got back, I had to take a 141 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 4: wine class and I was like twenty one, and I 142 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 4: was like, amazing, And I get to drink in class, 143 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 4: Like I didn't think anything of it. I think I 144 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 4: was drinking like frenzy at the time. I was very young, 145 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 4: twenty one, but I fell in love with it. I 146 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 4: just thought it was so cool. I loved wine pairings. 147 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 4: Like we had this opportunity where we went to a 148 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 4: restaurant and there was this delicious chocolate like molten lava 149 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 4: cake they served, and then they served it like a 150 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 4: slightly sweet, sparkling red wine dessert wine, and it was 151 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 4: almost like the red version of mescato, and just like 152 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 4: the flavor combination was insane like that the wine made 153 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 4: the chocolate cake taste better and my mind was blown. Yeah, 154 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 4: and I was like, I have to just keep studying this. 155 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 4: This is amazing, so cool. 156 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: That is so cool. 157 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: And you are a Latina, yes, can you speak to 158 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: that a little bit? Like in the community in the 159 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 3: some community, like are there a lot of other Latinos? Also? 160 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: I feel like there's not a lot of women that 161 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: do this, right. 162 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: I mean I know that just from my own experience 163 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 3: going to restaurants. 164 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever had. 165 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: A female somlier come to the table like at a restaurant. 166 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: I think I've only experienced men. 167 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's right. 168 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: I mean there's more now. 169 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 4: There are now, especially like since I started, there's definitely 170 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 4: more women. But I would say still being a Latino 171 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 4: or Latina is rare in the wine industry. That's interesting, 172 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 4: either like wine maker wise or as a smaller way. Yeah. Yeah. 173 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: One thing that I always stumble on or I'm always 174 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: impressed when people are good at this is like when 175 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: you go to a restaurant and they present you with 176 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 3: like the wineless, Oh my god. 177 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: Do you have right? 178 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: Do you have tips? 179 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 4: Like? 180 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: Sometimes I just scan and I go by, like, okay, well, 181 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 3: I know I mostly like wines from Santa Barbara, and 182 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 3: I say they have a Santa Barbara. 183 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: Wine that's better than you know, you're like, uh, what's 184 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 2: twenty dollars or less? Yeah? 185 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. 186 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's that I look yeah yeah, yeah, I'm like 187 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 3: maybe something around twenty dollars is gonna be good. Do 188 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 3: you have tips? And like ordering off a wineless when 189 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: you have no idea of any of the wines? 190 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's a great question because wine are 191 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 4: insanely intimidating and they're so long it's crazy. But you know, 192 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 4: I would say my tip when it comes to getting 193 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,479 Speaker 4: the best value wine, I like to look at countries 194 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 4: that nobody's talking about, right, because everyone's talking about Italy 195 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 4: and France, Like most people know those wines. But did 196 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 4: you know Croatia makes amazing wine? 197 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 6: Oh no, for example, or even going back to Italy, 198 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 6: you know it's like Barolo is known to be really expensive, 199 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 6: and like Piedmont Tuscanese, those main wine lesions cely makes 200 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 6: incredible wine and it's pretty affordable. 201 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 4: It's like so much better value for what you're gonna do. 202 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 4: That's a big tip for sure. 203 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 3: So we see Croatia or Sicily on a wine list, 204 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 3: chances are probably be a pretty good wine exactly. 205 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 4: Just those lesser known countries that like people aren't they 206 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 4: just like don't have the marketing and I got yeah, 207 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 4: Slovenia it's another one for sure. Even Georgia cool, Gangia 208 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 4: incredible too, yeah, George. And like orange wines are really 209 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 4: hard right. 210 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 3: Now, Okay, talk to me a little bit about orange wine, 211 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 3: because I've had a couple of orange wines that I 212 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, this is delicious and I 213 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 3: might even like it more than rose. And then I've 214 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 3: had a couple where I'm just like I don't get it, 215 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 3: but accurate, and also what what is Someone asked me, 216 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 3: They're like, what is orange wine? I was like, I 217 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 3: have no idea what is orange wine, Lucia. 218 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's literally just the juice from white grapes and 219 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 4: they get fermented with their skins for a certain amount 220 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 4: of time and then that changes their color too, more 221 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 4: of an orange color. And depending how long it's fermenting 222 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 4: is how orange it will get. Pretty much. Okay, so 223 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 4: like the five day ones are still gonna be very 224 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 4: pale orange, but when you get into like a month 225 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 4: of fermenting on the skins, then that's when you're gonna 226 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 4: get that really like dark orange. 227 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: This is very interesting. 228 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 3: More more, let's like basic bitch this up a little bit. 229 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: Because I feel like when people talk. 230 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 3: About wine and I like sort of know what these 231 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: things like. You know, I'll taste of wine and I 232 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 3: kind of know, like boulder deeper wines what they taste like. 233 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 3: But you know, there's all these like turns that you hear, bold, smooth. 234 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 2: Bibbity bobbity boo, fruity, dry, beauty, full body, Like, can 235 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: you just like the most common ones kind of give 236 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: like a like what does that mean when it comes 237 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: to flavor? 238 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 4: Okay, so for full bodied, you're gonna just get more constant, 239 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 4: like deeper flavors. But do you know what body means 240 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 4: of a wine, because I feel like that would be helpful. 241 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, start with that, start with that. I'm like a 242 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: body long. 243 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 5: No, I don't know what that means. 244 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think the easiest way to put it in 245 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 4: words is you can so think about skim milk, think 246 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 4: about you know, two percent whole milk, heavy cream in 247 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 4: your mouth, and then you relate that to wine. So 248 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 4: like a light bodied wine is going to feel how 249 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 4: skim milk feels in your mouth, and then we're as 250 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 4: all the way now to full body is how milk 251 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 4: or heavy cream feels in your mouth. So it's the 252 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 4: way of wine. 253 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: Okay. Essentially, yeah, body has to do with mouth feelings. 254 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I knew you were gonna. 255 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: Say it feels so cross to me. 256 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: Oh I got a Yeah. As you were like talking 257 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: about milk, I was like. 258 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 3: No, I knew you were waiting, waiting to get in 259 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 3: close to the mic and talk about math. 260 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 2: Oh god, okay, So but I understand what you mean. 261 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: I understand what you mean. Okay. 262 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: So if something's full bodied, got it? Got it? And 263 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: then what about like what was the other question you had, Melissa? 264 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 4: Oh? 265 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: Uh, dry? 266 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: It just means not sweet, right, okay, perfect right most 267 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 2: a plus so far, I don't know what's going on. 268 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 4: Yeah that was really good. Serious. 269 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 3: Oh you know when people talk about when they swish 270 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 3: their wine and they talk about the legs on the wye. 271 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 3: I know what it looks like, but I don't know 272 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: what the fuck it means. Is it good to have legs? 273 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 3: Is it bad to have legs? 274 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 4: What a legs mean? It's I know, it's neither. It 275 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 4: just lets you know how much alcohol is in the wine. 276 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 4: So yeah, So if the legs are going slowly, that 277 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 4: just means the wine is going to have a higher 278 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 4: amount of alcohol. And if they're going quickly, like just 279 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 4: down the glass, then there's not like there's just gonna 280 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 4: be a lot less alcohol. 281 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: I'm glad I know that now, because oh good, that's 282 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 3: actually good. 283 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: You know, that's really cool. 284 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 3: If I see some slow legs, I'm gonna be like, 285 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 3: maybe I might feel good after this glass. 286 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 7: That is so interesting, And then I tell me if 287 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 7: I'm wrong again, I'm gonna I'm going for another a here. Uh, 288 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 7: you are supposed to you were supposed to sniff the 289 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 7: wine because that contributes to like the taste of it right, 290 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 7: like the flavor of it because it's like a century another. 291 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: Yes, she's a living mess. You have no idea. 292 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm in my element. 293 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 4: Perfect literally, you know, because just like with food, you 294 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 4: need to smell it to taste it exactly. 295 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 3: I will say though, when I read wine descriptions and 296 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 3: it's like notes of cherry and chocolate, and I'm just like, 297 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: I don't taste any of that. 298 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 4: I don't. 299 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 3: I don't I which is fine. 300 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 4: By the way, do. 301 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 3: You have any tips on like I guess discovering, like 302 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 3: what notes you like? Does that make sense? 303 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 4: Yeah? I think so. I think you could think about, 304 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 4: you know, what do you like to eat? For example? Oh? Okay, Like, so, 305 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 4: for example, if you liked artichokes, there's this one called 306 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 4: Gruner vet Leaner that has very vegetable tones to it 307 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 4: almost like smells like artichokes in a way, So you 308 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 4: would probably like Gruner vet Leaner. 309 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: Interesting, what if I like hot cheetos, what would be 310 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: a wine that I would want? 311 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: Then then I. 312 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 4: Would want to pair of those hot cheetos for you. 313 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 4: So I'd want to pick a wine that you would 314 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 4: want to enjoy with the utch cheetos, which you'd want. 315 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 4: I think an off dried Raasling for Germany would be nice. 316 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 4: And when I say off dry, that means it has 317 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 4: some sweetness to temper the heat. 318 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: That is so funny. That's what I used to drink. 319 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 2: I'd be like, I'd like a glass of reason. I 320 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: love when I was in college. 321 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to that. Speaking of pairing, let's 322 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: do a quick fire pairing with you. Is that okay? 323 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yes. 324 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: It's just for fun. 325 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I did hot cheetos, So Melissa, you do something. 326 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 3: How about pizza Lambrisco? 327 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm so good with pizza. A dry Lambrusco. 328 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: I don't even know what lam sparkling red wine really the. 329 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, perfect. 330 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: Let's say, hypothetically, if you were to sneak a small 331 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: wine into the movie theater to have with your movie 332 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: theater popcorn butter, salty deliciousness, what would that be. I 333 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 2: would never sneak it. I would never No, we. 334 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 3: Would never do that. We would never do that. 335 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: But if we did, you sell wine. So perhaps they 336 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 2: have an extensive list. What would you pick off of 337 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: that list? 338 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 4: I would actually do surely, which is but usually not 339 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 4: too heavily oaked, sometimes not even oaked, but it has 340 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 4: really good acidity and that would cut through that richness 341 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 4: and buttery. 342 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: That sounds so good. 343 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: Soay uh okay. White wine is like for me, not 344 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 3: always a go to. I don't love it. And there's 345 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 3: that sort of rule that when you have seafood, you 346 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: should have white wine. But if I don't feel like 347 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 3: having white wine, what is another wine to pair with seafood? 348 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 4: It would depend on what kind of seafood dish. 349 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 3: Let's say salmon. 350 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 4: That's perfect, honestly, because a lot of the ways salmon's 351 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 4: prepared is it's usually either roasted or thrilled, and so 352 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 4: because of that, it's now getting this more concentrated flavor 353 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 4: on it. So actually, red wine is very good with him, 354 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 4: but you'd want to do a light red because you 355 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 4: don't want to overpower the salmon because it is still delicate. Right, 356 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 4: So you could go with a pino as a classic one. 357 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 4: Love a pino, even a Boujelet, which is a light 358 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 4: red wine from France. 359 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 3: What about something like Oyster Champs. 360 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh right, that is a classic one, sham. 361 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 2: So if you go to brunch with friends, obviously everyone 362 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: always wants to do the bottomless mimosas. I don't like 363 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: to do that. It's never it's never a good scene 364 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: before or after. So instead as a grown person ordering 365 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 2: something delicious at eleven thirty am with my brunch. Maybe 366 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 2: my brunch is a savory, maybe my brunch is sweet. 367 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 2: Which would what would you do with either? 368 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 4: I would do a rose champagne. 369 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: Okay, that sounds good. That sounds real good. 370 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 4: You know, eggs are hard, and champagne pairs really well 371 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 4: with eggs. It's like one of the few wines that 372 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 4: will pair with eggs. 373 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: I don't think about that. It's like what pairs with eggs? 374 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: Bacon that does. 375 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's this word called chromont, and if you see 376 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 4: a bottle that says chromoin anything Cromont de Loire for example, 377 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 4: Chromon de borg Gone, it just means that that sparkling 378 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 4: wine was made the same style as champagne, and it 379 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 4: has to be made in France. Oh, but it's always 380 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 4: so much less expensive than champagne. 381 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: This is so cool. 382 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 4: I went really viral a year ago because I was 383 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 4: talking about that. But it was a trader Joe's wine 384 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 4: where it's ten dollars, and I was like, you know, 385 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 4: if you love champagne, don't feel like spending that money, 386 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 4: get this instead. And it pissed off a lot of 387 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 4: smallie's to a viral and it got me a lot 388 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 4: of flowers. 389 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, but I love that because you're not you know, 390 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 3: I saw that on your Instagram, which I love, and 391 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 3: we'll make sure to plug your Instagram. Thank you is 392 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 3: all of your Trader Joe's picks, because you know it's 393 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: wine can be. Wine has gotten more expensive too, Like 394 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 3: I feel my dad and I talk about how, you know, 395 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 3: when I was younger, we used to I mean, we 396 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 3: still do this, but we would always share like our 397 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 3: favorite ten dollars bottles, and we've noticed over the years 398 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 3: that's become fifteen dollars bottles or twenty dollars fuels. 399 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy, literally. 400 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I love that you talk about these 401 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 3: really delicious, affordable wines and like you don't, Yeah, gatekeep 402 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 3: that knowledge. 403 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, you stop about it, You're like, because this is 404 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 2: for everyone to enjoy it. 405 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 6: Yeah. 406 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 3: I think that's what could feel intimidating about wine sometimes 407 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,479 Speaker 3: is that it feels kind of fancy or elitists, like 408 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 3: you have to have a lot of money, to enjoy it, 409 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 3: and I don't think that's true, not approachable. 410 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, absolutely, I'm here to change that. I love 411 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 4: that definitely. 412 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 3: I love that. 413 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 4: More better, more better. 414 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 3: Well, And speaking of wine, I think we're gonna sip 415 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 3: some way with you yay and making her podcast debut. 416 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: Is our producer? 417 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 5: I say, Senna, Hi, Hey, I say it's me. I 418 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 5: am here because your I says, what's going on? I've 419 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 5: been summoned. I heard someone wanted to taste some wine. 420 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna do it. 421 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. 422 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 4: Okay. 423 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 5: So now let's imagine that we're hearing game show music 424 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 5: like do Do Do Do Do Do? Oh? 425 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 3: I like it? 426 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 5: Hello, and welcome to two buck Chuck or what the fuck? 427 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 5: Where are contestants? Stephanie and Melissa will be trying like 428 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 5: Godine and Lucia will be helping us out in identifying 429 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 5: what is cheap and. 430 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: Good and what is expensive? 431 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 5: Oh what, We're gonna do a blind taste test, y'all 432 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 5: can't wait. We have delivered two bottles of wine to 433 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 5: your front door. Please retrieve said bottles and bring them 434 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 5: back to your desk. 435 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: Oh you do? 436 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 4: It? 437 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 2: Isis what if I don't want to get up. 438 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: And now you're back. 439 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 5: Tell us about the bottles that you're looking at. 440 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 3: They have no labels. 441 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: Wait, you look like wine. They look like wine. 442 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 5: Uh mm hmmm. 443 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: Describe the bottle. 444 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 2: One has a screw top and the other one doesn't. 445 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: One has a cork, So I'm gonna I'm gonna open 446 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 2: the cork one. 447 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, So wait before you do that, hold on. 448 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 5: We have removed all the labeling from these two bottles, 449 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 5: and based on all the things that you've learned from Lucia, today, 450 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 5: we're going to be putting your learning radia test and 451 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 5: we're going to have you taste them and identify some things. 452 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: You know, I just want to. 453 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 2: Say, I didn't sign up to be graded, so I 454 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 2: did I know Melissa loves a grade. 455 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: I did I love a grade. Feel free to grade. 456 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 6: Me, you know what you. 457 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 5: Oh my god, this is for fun fun. 458 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 3: Don't ruin this for me, Stephanie. 459 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,719 Speaker 1: And isis she wants the grade? 460 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 5: We'll give you an A. You're regudless. 461 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 2: He has to earn it. Don't give it to me 462 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: till I earned it, I say so. 463 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 5: Lucia, you mentioned that part of your test was opening 464 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 5: the cork without making a pop sound. Right, So I 465 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 5: would like Stephanie and Melissa to try and open the 466 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 5: corked bottle. And let's let's hear. 467 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: If you break the cork, that wouldn't be Okay, don't 468 00:23:59,040 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 2: break the cork. 469 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: Okay, here we go, don't break the court. 470 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 5: I do remember when I worked in restaurants that that 471 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 5: was like a thing that we had to just let out, like. 472 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, like you just don't want to play fail, you know, 473 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 4: but like yeah, gently like take it out. 474 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really enjoying this. 475 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 2: You guys, I've been farting. That's me farting. That's not 476 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: the that's not the wine. Okay, hold on, She's like, 477 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get the court right now. 478 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 4: Hold out you're here. 479 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: Ooh nice God, that was that was satisfying. 480 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 3: I didn't know we were going to be recording opening 481 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 3: the wine. So I brought my like easy. 482 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: Boom boom opener. 483 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: It's okay with a little a little man with the 484 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 2: arms that one, Oh, the new mac one. 485 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 3: Wow, you just go down and then you go. 486 00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 4: Up. 487 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: Cool. See mine was and as satisfying. 488 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 3: Its very easy, and then it just spits it out. 489 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 5: Oh Lucy, please talk them through a tasting. What should 490 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 5: they think about when they sip. 491 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: It should swish. 492 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 3: Oh wait, I'm trying to see the legs since I 493 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 3: know now that it means about oh oh yeah, the legs. 494 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 4: Well, when you're swirling it, are the legs going down slowly? 495 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: Oh right, it was a speed. 496 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 3: Girl. 497 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 4: They're going down slowly. That means the one's on the 498 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 4: higher end with alcohol like fourteen percent. 499 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: Let's say it's leg mid. I can't listen. I need 500 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: a new prescription. 501 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: I can't see jack shit, So moving on to the 502 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 2: next part. 503 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 4: Moving on, okay, let's yeah, let's do the fun part. 504 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,719 Speaker 4: Smelling it. Who ooh, First, I want to I want 505 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 4: to hear what you guys. 506 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: It's very tart smelling. 507 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. 508 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: Oh cherry, Yeah maybe cherry. My brain is like soap 509 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: or grapes. 510 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 2: Smells like grape, smells like fabreeze, you know, yeah, I 511 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: get it does some kind of soapy. 512 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 4: Is that rude? 513 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: What if this is super expensive wine that they're like 514 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 2: gifting us. 515 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: It smells soapy to me. 516 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 2: It smells like laundry. 517 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 4: Okay, any like type of laundry. 518 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, like gan, I don't remember that one smells like oh, 519 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: my god. 520 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 3: Bol Gain is pretty flowery. Yeah, so maybe you smell 521 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 3: getting like laul. 522 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 4: Kind of girl. Yeah, maybe some violet. 523 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: I just said, Gain. I think we know where we're 524 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: at with me and wine. 525 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 4: Okay, this is completely fine, But so this wine you 526 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 4: should be getting more, uh like wild berries. You're gonna 527 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 4: get blueberry, BlackBerry, definitely a dark cherry note. 528 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm getting a little bit of berry now. Okay, 529 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 3: I feel like the smell is starting to change a 530 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 3: little bit too. 531 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: Okay, well, okay, I looked up Gain and it's orange, 532 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: lemon and blossoms with a modern, fruity green twist. 533 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: This smells like game. So Okay, I got it wrong. 534 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 4: Not necessarily, Honestly, I like it. Yeah, it's really what 535 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 4: you smell. Yeah. I like how you described it too, Honestly, 536 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 4: I'm trying to get better about that too, where I'm 537 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 4: just like, oh, it reminds you of a certain thing 538 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 4: rather than like a bunch of different. 539 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: Sets, you know, is what I'm trying to say. 540 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 5: Okay, So what happens after the smelling? 541 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, now let's take a sit. Does it taste tart 542 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 4: to you guys? Does it taste sour tart? 543 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: Candy a little bit. 544 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 4: Does it feel dry in your mouth? Like almost like 545 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 4: sandpiper ish? Yes? 546 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 3: Stingy? 547 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 2: Yeaheah, I kind of like it. I took another little 548 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 2: swish of it, and I kind of like the stingy. 549 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: What does that mean? The stingy? 550 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 4: I think maybe what you guys are thinking about was tannin. 551 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 4: So it's like when you eat a grape, you know 552 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 4: how the skin just feels very drying on. 553 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it also sort of like dries out your tongue 554 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 2: a little bit and makes it somehow. 555 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I never knew that's what that was. 556 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 5: All right, shall we try wine new? Middle of the walk? 557 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: Let's do number two? Melissa, What do the legs look like? 558 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 3: Okay, this is a higher alcohol content for sure, because 559 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 3: I can already see in comparison to the other one 560 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 3: that it's slower coming down. 561 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: Chug chug, Just kidding, I'm just how does that smell? 562 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: Give it a whiff? 563 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 3: All right, let's smell you guys. 564 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: I accidentally just put my nose in the wine. 565 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: Did you just snort wine? 566 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm a pro at this, you guys a pro. It's 567 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: a new technique. How much did you pour that you got. 568 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: All, Melissa, don't worry about it. 569 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 3: I was gonna say something maybe like like a kind 570 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 3: of spice. 571 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: It smells christmasy to me, and you're getting there for sure. 572 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 4: It's definitely less fruiting than the other one. Yeah, and 573 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 4: you're gonna get more of those that earthiness earthiness. 574 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 3: But not when I hear people say earthiness, I think 575 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 3: like dirt. Dirt, smell like dirt, and it's not that. 576 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it smells like something I want to drink at 577 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 2: like Christmas dinner or Thanksgiving dinner. Like it smells like something, 578 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like a holiday kind of 579 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: like you gotta. 580 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 4: And what spices are used? 581 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: Dirt like cloth, all spice, clove? Yeah, what a cinemata. 582 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 2: And I think i'm smelling you know, stuff that you 583 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 2: use in like holiday baking or it's stuffings like rosemary, 584 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 2: Like yeah. 585 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, damn, Steph, you're good at the smell party. 586 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: I want to have like a sag stuffing with this. 587 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, oh that would be great. I love that. 588 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 5: All right, should we taste it now, bitch? 589 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: That is so good, so fucking good? What the hell? 590 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 4: I'm glad you like? 591 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good. 592 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 3: This is exactly what I'm doing tonight is drinking this wine. 593 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 5: M Okay, so I think I know what your answers 594 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 5: are going to be, but we have to finish this game. 595 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 5: Melissa A or B. Which one do you think is 596 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 5: the three buck chuck? A? Stephanie, which one do you 597 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 5: think is the three buck chuck? 598 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 2: You know, I truly don't. I here's the thing. If 599 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: this really good tasting wine is the three buck Chuck, 600 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna buy them out. I'm gonna get I'm gonna 601 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: get stuck in this winemaker. 602 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 3: If this is the three buck jock, because this. 603 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: Is I mean the other one. I mean like this 604 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: first one is. The first one is. 605 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 2: Good, It's totally good. I would drink some. The second 606 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: one is like you know what I mean, like it's 607 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 2: a horror party. 608 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: It's a party. 609 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, the guesses have been made. Lucia, please 610 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 5: reveal which one was the three buck chuck. 611 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, we knew it. 612 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 5: We knew it. 613 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 3: We are good at drinking. 614 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: My god, the second one. 615 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: Tell us about the second one? Please tell me it's 616 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: not too expensive? 617 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 4: WHOA, it's eight O. 618 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 2: This is like a fancy this is an anniversary. This 619 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 2: is a special anniversary wine. Absolutely, but it's really nice. 620 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 4: I chose it because I actually went to the winery 621 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 4: with my fiance year and we just loved. 622 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: It's so special. Oh my god, that's so special. 623 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 7: Thank you so much, Oh my god, thank you so much, 624 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 7: so amazing. 625 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't never have picked this up. 626 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 2: I would have just been so intimidated by the frenchie 627 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 2: French on the cover or the cover on the cover 628 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 2: of the book. I would have been intimidated by the 629 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 2: cover of this book. There's info on the back. Chateau 630 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 2: how do you say this, Chateau La Nuff. 631 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 4: Yes, chat. 632 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: Has the handcuffing fine one since fifteen sixty. 633 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 2: Okay, wow, we cultivate the traditional thirteen varietals. 634 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're one of the Grenache surah. 635 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 2: And which can be helped in this one. 636 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 4: It's hard to say. 637 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: It's you guys. This is not sponsored in any way, 638 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: shape or form. 639 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 3: Uh. 640 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: This is really lovely, lovely, but honestly I would drink it. 641 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: If you serve me a glass of that wine at 642 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 2: a party, I would straight up drink it. 643 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm removing the label now that was hiding the 644 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 3: or the thing that was hiding the label off of wine. A. Oh, 645 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 3: it's a cook throne. 646 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: I kind of know what that is. 647 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 4: So same grapes. Actually, what's so funny is it's the 648 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 4: same grapes, it's just a different part and wine maker. 649 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 3: Right. More better? That was so much fun, Steph. We 650 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 3: learned so much today about wine, big stuff. 651 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 4: I'm so glad, Like. 652 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 2: It's okay that I explain smelling wine in terms of 653 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 2: laundry detergent and laundry detergent. But I mean I feel 654 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 2: better about it because I'm a storyteller. I think I 655 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 2: like go to the like what the story is right, 656 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 2: And so it makes me kind of feel better that, 657 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 2: like I was not completely off my rocker saying that stuff. 658 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 3: No, you aren't at all, Lucia, thank you for the 659 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 3: tips at ordering at a restaurant. I can't wait to like, 660 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,439 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be so excited the next time I see 661 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 3: Croatia on a wine. 662 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: My god, I can't wait. It's so fancy to be 663 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 2: like they're gonna think you're really good. 664 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 5: Yah. 665 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna lean into it real hard. I'm 666 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 3: gonna order that shit with like swagger and just be 667 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 3: like I totally know what I'm taking about they won't backfire. 668 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 4: But it will. I love it. No, it won't. 669 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: I mean, like if you know, I get follow up questions. 670 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 3: But but I'm excited. I'm excited about that. Thank you 671 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 3: so much for all of these tips for how helping 672 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 3: us get better at wine. 673 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: Do you feel a little more better that you shared 674 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: this stuff with us? 675 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 4: Oh? I feel so much better. This was so much fun. 676 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 2: Yay. 677 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 3: Please tell our audience where they can find you. 678 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 4: So we can find me at Instagram at Lucia loves Wine. 679 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 4: I'm also on TikTok for the kids. 680 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: For the kids. 681 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it so Lucilla loves Wine. Thank you 682 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 3: for joining us, Stephanie. Do you feel more better? I? 683 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 2: I you know, I feel like I really want to 684 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 2: take a big gulp of this wine and I might 685 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 2: do it, you guys, I might do it. 686 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: It's so good. 687 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 3: It is so good, and I understand that because I 688 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 3: will be I'm already I've already drank my whole glass. 689 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 1: I feel like I took a class. 690 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 3: Yeah this felt like a class, but like a fun class. 691 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 692 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this was great. This was awesome. Listeners, We'll 693 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: see you next time. Yeah, have a glass of wine. 694 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: We'll see you next week. Bye Bye. 695 00:35:58,600 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 4: Better. 696 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 2: Do you have something you'd like to be more better 697 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 2: at that you want us to talk about in a 698 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 2: future episode. 699 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 3: Can you relate to our struggles or have you tried 700 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 3: one of our tips and tricks? 701 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: Shoot us your thoughts and ideas at Morebetter pod at. 702 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 2: Gmail dot com and include a voice note if you 703 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 2: want to be featured on the pod. 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