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Speaker 1: It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning, and this segment

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Speaker 1: is meant only for listeners who aren't currently stuck in

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Speaker 1: an elevator, because those people already have closure and they

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Speaker 1: hate it to This one isn't necessarily about physical closure.

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Speaker 1: It's more of an emotional thing that they're going through

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Speaker 1: and they need some help getting resolution, and that's why

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Speaker 1: we do a closure call.

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Speaker 2: Yes, oh, we had a door sound effect for that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's the sound of you getting closure, and one

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Speaker 1: of our listeners, Vincent, needs some help getting a little

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Speaker 1: peace of mind in his own life. So Vincent, welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show man.

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Speaker 2: Hi, because he's here.

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Speaker 1: We don't have the budget for that sound effect. That's

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Speaker 1: all we could afford. Hopefully next year we can get both.

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Speaker 3: Sounds sounds like Vincent, I just want to thank you

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Speaker 3: for being on the show because obviously you're going to

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Speaker 3: probably share something with us that's vulnerable and it's not

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Speaker 3: necessarily about doors.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, we're talking on the details of the second. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe your problem is something involving doors. Tell

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Speaker 1: us why you emailed the show.

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Speaker 4: So back in high school, I had a good female friend, Gina,

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Speaker 4: and I always kind of wondered what if you know,

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Speaker 4: like it was a strong connection and we laughed and

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Speaker 4: joked a lot.

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Speaker 2: And so like, what if you dated? Is that what

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Speaker 2: you mean?

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Speaker 1: Or what if you were like a superhero team the

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Speaker 1: two of you together? I had thought about my friends.

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Speaker 4: I was like, what if it was more than platonic?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Like super platonic?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: How long?

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Speaker 2: Can I ask?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 5: Is this are we talking ten years ago? We're talking

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Speaker 5: three years ago?

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Speaker 4: Oh about twenty years ago?

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, it's been a minute. And do you still

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Speaker 5: talk to Gina?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: We kind of exchanged Facebook message here and there and

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Speaker 4: things like that. But we kind of made a pack

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Speaker 4: and if we were both single and had no kid

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Speaker 4: by thirty five, we'd get married.

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Speaker 2: Who didn't make a pack?

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Speaker 1: Like, I don't who I made that packed with.

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Speaker 6: I did make the pack.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening, find me because I'm in my thirties

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Speaker 1: now and.

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Speaker 6: I need to get married.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I feel like it's a pretty common

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Speaker 1: thing that people do. But how did that come up

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Speaker 1: between you and Gina?

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Speaker 4: It was actually on our prom night. You know, we're

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Speaker 4: hanging out drinking on the roof of our school. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: we watched the sunrise, the whole deal.

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Speaker 1: And how many girls did you make that pack with

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Speaker 1: that night? Was it Justina or was it like ten?

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Speaker 6: Just to be sure, No, it was just one.

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Speaker 2: For sure, did you guys kiss or anything that night?

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Speaker 4: We actually did. We sealed it with a handshake and

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Speaker 4: she pulled me in for a kiss, and I gotta

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Speaker 4: say it was incredible.

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Speaker 1: Oh so she instigated the kiss.

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Speaker 2: It's like young love.

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Speaker 1: What's happened since then?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we made the pack. Of course, we graduated and

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Speaker 4: we kept in touch all throughout college and she even

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Speaker 2: Did things like go to any next level then?

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Speaker 4: No? No, we just kind of reconnected on a friendly level.

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Speaker 4: You know. I definitely would have connected with her on

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Speaker 4: more infrequently, like every couple of years, maybe, just like

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Speaker 1: And nothing substantial though, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So fast forward to two weeks ago, we had

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Speaker 4: our twenty year high school reunion and going into it,

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Speaker 4: I sent her a message saying you better be coming,

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Speaker 4: and she gave me a thumbs up. And I thought

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Speaker 2: But total, but it sounded like she was supposed to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she she was, Oh, all right, she did make it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yes, twenty years after you made that pack to

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Speaker 5: But nobody takes it seriously at this point, right, like,

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Speaker 4: I mean, it was pretty serious when it happened, you

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Speaker 4: feels about it. That's the thing. Maybe I'm crazy, Wow, alright,

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Speaker 4: but I mean, you don't just get married like you

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Speaker 1: Rights of the reunion in your tucks, you bring with.

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Speaker 2: You, you peak, swear, you promise.

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Speaker 5: So wait, what was it like when you guys reconnected

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Speaker 4: At the reunion, I see her and she gave me

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Speaker 4: She was just kind of cold toward me, to be honest,

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Speaker 5: Or something, or maybe you're just I mean there could

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Speaker 5: maybe you're being oversensitive, you know, like it seems like

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Speaker 4: I mean yeah, but she drifted apart with everybody else too,

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Speaker 4: and she was having fun with them.

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Speaker 6: That's true.

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Speaker 1: Did you bring up the pack that you guys made

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Speaker 4: I didn't, And I was just kind of guessing because

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Speaker 4: maybe it made her uncomfortable, thinking, oh, there's a guy

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Speaker 4: I promised i'd marry, you know, when we were both single.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, I could kind of see like maybe she

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Speaker 5: just didn't want to talk about it with you, and

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Speaker 1: Like when you're a boring guy at the bar and

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Speaker 1: you're like diverting him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't know what she was thinking. So

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Speaker 4: I reached out on Facebook afterwards actually, and I said, hey,

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Speaker 4: we didn't get to connect at all, like everything.

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Speaker 6: Okay, and it's good. I got no respond Oh.

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Speaker 2: There's something wrong, man, Okay.

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Speaker 3: I mean we're starting from the thumbs up, but you

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Speaker 3: don't send that unless you're just like I'm acknowledging what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is kind of passive aggressive feelings.

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Speaker 1: So that Facebook message with no response, that's the last

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Speaker 6: Yep, time, that's when you reached.

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Speaker 1: Out to us to get some closure here, Like what

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Speaker 1: are you wanting to get out of the closure call?

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Speaker 1: Do you want to see if she's still willing to

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Speaker 1: follow through on your promise.

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Speaker 2: That's a huge question.

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Speaker 1: I'm asking him.

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Speaker 4: We don't have to get married or owner the pact,

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Speaker 4: but I definitely think like we'd be good going on

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Speaker 1: And it's a very least okay, So Vincent, you know

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Speaker 1: how this works. Obviously, you've been working with our producer

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Speaker 6: Yep, we did, Okay, so.

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Speaker 1: We printed out her answers. No one else in the

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Speaker 2: She did respond via email to these questions.

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Speaker 1: Unless somebody like type them out for her, it would

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Speaker 1: be kind of weird. But we got a response. It's

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Speaker 2: Visit Cay.

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Speaker 1: Remember, Vincent does not know the answers either. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: hear them for the very first time, gonna get closed

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Speaker 1: from his old high school friend who he made a

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Speaker 1: they were both single by this point.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious to even hear your question.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna find all that out when we do

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Speaker 1: your closure call next. All right, we're already running short

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Speaker 1: on time, mainly because of the intriguing story we just

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Speaker 1: heard from one of our listeners, Vincent, because twenty years

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Speaker 1: ago he was drinking on the roof after senior prom

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Speaker 1: with his good friend, not even his date that night,

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Speaker 1: just a friend named Gina, and together they made a

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Speaker 1: pact that they would get married by age thirty five

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Speaker 1: if they were both still single. Oh yeah, So fast

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Speaker 1: forward past thirty five. They're at their twenty year high

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Speaker 1: school reunion and she acts weirdly cold to him the

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Speaker 1: So Vincent is wondering was the pact on her mind?

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Speaker 1: Why was she acting so weird at the reunion because

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Speaker 1: worked with our producer to send four different questions to Gina.

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Speaker 1: She answered all of them, and we're about to read

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Speaker 1: them right now. So, Vincent, apparently the first question that

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Speaker 1: wanted to make her laugh.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it would lighten her up.

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Speaker 2: It's really really it's smart.

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Speaker 5: It reminds her of the friendship that you guys once had.

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Speaker 5: Your connection.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't make it sound so like forever over.

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Speaker 2: He said that they only message each other like on Facebook.

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Speaker 2: I want to know the joke. Okay, all right.

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Speaker 1: So you guys sent Gina a joke and you had

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Speaker 1: our producer write one sentence. It was, it's been a while.

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Speaker 1: Are your three favorite things still eating my family and

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Speaker 1: not using comma? You get it, like, not using commas

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Speaker 1: eating my family?

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Speaker 2: Kind of a visual. It took a second.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, probably works better over email.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Vincent, that's pretty good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I felt like that was a good opener.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys have a lot of grammatical inside jokes

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Speaker 1: back in the day, saying but Gina replied, she said,

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Speaker 1: quote still funny. Smiley face.

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Speaker 2: A full sentence.

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Speaker 1: Still, the smiley faces a lot of its own. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's like a hundred words hidden in smile. Didn't really

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Speaker 4: So far, so good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're off to an okay start, but this

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Speaker 2: What did you do next? Vincent?

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Speaker 1: Obviously we had to get to the more serious meat

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Speaker 1: of things, so we sent We've been friends for so long,

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Speaker 1: I would really appreciate one hundred and honesty. I don't

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Speaker 1: understand why you're not responding to me on Facebook. Did

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Speaker 1: our dumb pact? I could tell something was off?

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Speaker 4: I don't know what else it could be other than that.

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Speaker 6: I really don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna read it. Gina wrote back, I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: that happened, but yes, it was extremely awkward for me,

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Speaker 1: but it had nothing to do with the pact. Please

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Speaker 1: don't hate me, but the truth is I felt so

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Speaker 1: guilty because a decade ago I went through some hard times,

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Speaker 1: got into drugs, stole from my family ended up with

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Speaker 6: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: And then at my lowest point, I stole your identity.

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Speaker 2: Wait wait, Vincent.

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Speaker 1: What she says? I never told you this, but I

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Speaker 1: racked up a lot of debt under your name and

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Speaker 1: every time I see you online or in person, and

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Speaker 1: now I can't bear to face you. I'm so ashamed.

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Speaker 4: God, are you freaking serious?

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Speaker 2: Wait?

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Speaker 1: Did you go through like an identity crisis thing like that?

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Speaker 4: That was a long time ago, that was over a

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Speaker 4: decade ago.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I mean are you angry?

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Speaker 5: Like are you what is your first Like, I'm just shocked,

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Speaker 5: like I see that coming?

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Speaker 2: Whatsoever?

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Speaker 1: Vincent, you said that you guys connected and she spent

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Speaker 1: that maybe? Do you think that's where she could have

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Speaker 1: swapped your credit card or something?

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Speaker 4: It must have been. Yeah, when I went through that,

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Speaker 4: I mean, it was really tough for me. It took

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Speaker 4: me years to get my credit back to normal. You know,

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Speaker 4: I just never would have thought that that was her

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Speaker 1: We have the third question here, which is just thing

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Speaker 1: to do with it.

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Speaker 6: I know, it.

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Speaker 1: Feels weird because we sent all these at once.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and so.

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Speaker 1: We probably wouldn't have sent the rest of these. Have

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Speaker 1: we gotten that answer, but.

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Speaker 6: Questions like how's your credit?

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Speaker 1: The next one we asked if there was any chance

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Speaker 1: it's a reconciliation for a friendship or anything, which, again

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we would have asked that if

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Speaker 2: Do you still want that, Vincent?

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Speaker 4: I really just want to hear what she has to say.

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Speaker 4: I'm almost speechless.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, she responded by saying, I doubt after you know

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Speaker 1: I totally get it.

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Speaker 4: That's it. That's all she said.

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Speaker 1: And then she asked for your pin number two. That

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Speaker 1: was all she said. That was all she said for

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Speaker 2: Would steal again, right, I mean that's the thing. She

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Speaker 2: just feels terrible. Yeah, and as she should.

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Speaker 1: There's no good way to deliver this news to anybody

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Speaker 2: But it's pretty amazing. She was so honest.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the last question that we sent her,

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Speaker 1: which was regarding the pact. Can we amend it to

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Speaker 1: forty if you're getting cold feet, I'm willing to go

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Speaker 1: up to forty five.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I said that when I was in a good mood.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know about the identity.

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Speaker 6: Ete.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I give you just a small detail. You might

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Speaker 1: Is resourceful, So it could be good to be on

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Speaker 1: her side and be aligned with her in that way.

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Speaker 1: But Gina did right back, and she said, considering my

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Speaker 1: credit score at this point and probably yours, it would

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Speaker 1: be a bad financial decision to consider merging our lives.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, but she says, but it's a sweet thought.

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Speaker 1: I'm just happy I'm sober and clean, and I hope

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Speaker 1: you're happy too. Maybe down the line we can be

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Speaker 1: friends again if you can forgive me. Oh that's a

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Speaker 1: good question, Vincent.

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Speaker 2: That's a big statement she just made. Forgive her or

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Speaker 2: press charges too late for that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think I really

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Speaker 4: need to process all this.

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Speaker 5: But you know, people are different when they're under you know,

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Speaker 5: an addiction. Well, I kind of lean towards forgiveness on

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Speaker 5: this one, if you can get there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, at least she didn't blame you for getting her

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Speaker 1: hooked on drugs and drinking on that one night you

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Speaker 1: spent on the roof together. She could have the whole

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Speaker 1: that's a positive.

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Speaker 6: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 1: That closure call happened about four months ago.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm still like shaken.

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Speaker 1: Now Vince is back on the phone to give us

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Speaker 1: an update. And Vince, everybody here is wondering. I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: that we're doing this call because you actually met up

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Speaker 1: with Gina again.

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Speaker 4: I did.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, is still Vince?

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Speaker 2: What was going through your head?

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Speaker 4: Well, we reconnected, you know, we started chatting and we

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Speaker 4: just decided to meet up and grab some drinks at

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Speaker 5: So you were angry at all, like I was just

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Speaker 5: wanted and if after you processed.

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Speaker 4: Oh I was angry. I was. But we did talk

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Speaker 4: and I thought, well, okay, you know, let me meet

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Speaker 4: up and see what happens. Okay, So we met up

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Speaker 4: at a bar and she felt horrible for what she did.

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Speaker 4: She was very apologetic. She offered to pay for the

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Speaker 4: entire night. You know, we had food and drinks and

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Speaker 4: with credit card. Interesting, you would ask, were telling stories

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Speaker 4: for a few hours. It was actually really nice and

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Speaker 4: we were definitely connecting. And then she went to close

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Speaker 4: out her tab and the bartender says, what's the name

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Speaker 4: on the card and the name was and seen or so,

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Speaker 4: I don't even know what the name was. And something

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Speaker 4: definitely wasn't Gina.

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Speaker 2: I thought she had like mended, Yeah, it.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't appear so, and she just kind of smirked at

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Speaker 6: Were on in.

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Speaker 1: So where are you guys gonna go next? Then get

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Speaker 1: a vacation in there nowhere.

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Speaker 4: We have not talked since.

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Speaker 6: You don't want to get caught up in that.

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Speaker 2: He got home and immediately checked his wallet to make.

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Speaker 4: Sure, because back he's like, where's my home?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for keeping us posted on your life and

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Speaker 1: to make sure you stay in touch. All right, good

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Speaker 1: luck out there.

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Speaker 4: Sure things

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Speaker 6: Broken Jeffrey in the morning,