Speaker 1: Warning, there is no stopping the spoilers. There is only
Speaker 1: the war.
Speaker 2: This episode of x ray Vision is filled with spoilers
Speaker 2: about the first episode of.
Speaker 1: Hawkeye and sprinkling.
Speaker 2: Of stuff from episode two of Hawkeye, but mostly we
Speaker 2: cover episode one, so be warned. If you have not
Speaker 2: watched episode one of the show Hawkeye on Disney Plus,
Speaker 2: do that now, come back listen to us later. Hello.
Speaker 2: My name is Jason Concepcia, and welcome to x ray Vision,
Speaker 2: the cricket podcast where we dive.
Speaker 1: D but to your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop
Speaker 1: culture and more.
Speaker 2: Today's episode, we're gonna be talking about the first episode
Speaker 2: of Disney Plus is Hawkeye. The first two episodes have
Speaker 2: come out, but we're only going to be covering episode
Speaker 2: one on this episode. Next episode we'll be doing episodes
Speaker 2: two and three. Also on this episode is a new
Speaker 2: segment called nerd Out, where we have guests.
Speaker 1: Come on and just pitch us on a thing.
Speaker 2: That they are a nerd about and let us know
Speaker 2: what is great about that thing, what do they love
Speaker 2: about it. This opening segment, we are having Star Trek
Speaker 2: super fan Kendred James, one of our Crooked Media colleagues,
Speaker 2: pitch us on the world of Star Trek and then
Speaker 2: to talk about Hawkeye. We are joined by the great
Speaker 2: Cody Ziggler. First up, nerd Out. Welcome to a new
Speaker 2: segment called nerd Out, in which we invite our fellow
Speaker 2: nerds to pitch us their favorite fandoms, how they fell
Speaker 2: in love with it, why we should be checking out now,
Speaker 2: and what we could look forward to in the future.
Speaker 2: This week, Kendrew James, producer on Crooked's own Love It
Speaker 2: or Leave It, shares her love of Star Trek forward
Speaker 2: to hearing from some of you in this segment in
Speaker 2: the future.
Speaker 3: Hey, Jason, thanks for having me on. This is an
Speaker 3: extremely familiar setup for me. I spent a lot of
Speaker 3: time as a kid alone in my room just like
Speaker 3: talking to myself about Star Trek, kind of just unsure
Speaker 3: if anyone was really listening. So thank you for allowing
Speaker 3: me to regress a bit today. I guess that was
Speaker 3: always my setup because Star Trek was not particularly cool
Speaker 3: when I fell in love with it at age like
Speaker 3: four or five. I feel like I tell this story
Speaker 3: once a year, sort of each time in like a
Speaker 3: different medium. I've written about it, I've done videos about it,
Speaker 3: and now I'm talking to you, I'm on X ray
Speaker 3: Vision about it. Then. Kind of the point is like
Speaker 3: I've known Star Trek since birth. It's always been in
Speaker 3: my life. It feels ever present. Next Generation premiered a
Speaker 3: few months before I was born, and it was always
Speaker 3: playing at our dinner table. Like, my parents were definitely fans,
Speaker 3: if not Trukies. They weren't going to you know, conventions
Speaker 3: or like dressing up in costumes or writing fan fiction
Speaker 3: or anything, but they definitely enjoyed the show. And I've
Speaker 3: heard it tossed around before that, especially for parents of color.
Speaker 3: One of the reasons that that might be is that
Speaker 3: it felt safe and representative. When you saw black people
Speaker 3: on television. In Star Trek, you knew you weren't going
Speaker 3: to have to sort of watch historical.
Speaker 1: Torture porn or like struggle porn.
Speaker 3: It was just going to be people going about their
Speaker 3: daily business and there was no risk of you know,
Speaker 3: traumatizing your four year old while also wanting them to
Speaker 3: see people who looked like them on television. There were
Speaker 3: two events that really made me aware of what Star
Speaker 3: Trek was. I think first was realizing or being taught
Speaker 3: again somewhere around four or five that LeVar Burton on
Speaker 3: Reading Rainbow and Lieutenant Toorni LaForge were the same person.
Speaker 3: I didn't understand that, and it blew my mind. When
Speaker 3: LeVar did the tour of the Enterprise on Reading Rainbow,
Speaker 3: I just didn't get it, and so I started paying
Speaker 3: closer attention after that because I didn't understand the concept
Speaker 3: of an actor being multiple people, and I was constantly
Speaker 3: sort of trying to spot similarities and differences, like it
Speaker 3: was a Highlights and magazine puzzle. And then the next
Speaker 3: point where I really was aware of Star Trek and
Speaker 3: what it was was that I was five when Deepshase
Speaker 3: nine started in ninety three, and I was hooked from
Speaker 3: the premiere. The idea of seeing Commander Cisco yell at
Speaker 3: someone like Captain Picard was like again, it was very shocking.
Speaker 3: I'd missed the episodes Best of Both Worlds Part one
Speaker 3: and two on Next Generation, which are the episodes where
Speaker 3: Picard is assimilated by the Boorg and becomes the cutest
Speaker 3: and I think I maybe miss on purpose because my
Speaker 3: parents knew it was a little bit much for a
Speaker 3: six or seven year old, and First Contact hadn't come
Speaker 3: out yet. So for me, like this Humbling of Jean
Speaker 3: Luke Picard was like very new and very novel, and
Speaker 3: so it really hooked me in. And then of course
Speaker 3: with You Today nine, there was just the blackness of
Speaker 3: it all. It was one of the few genre shows
Speaker 3: that I could go to where characters who were being
Speaker 3: focused on looked like me. And the only other one
Speaker 3: I really had during that era was a show called
Speaker 3: Mantis that ran for one season on Fox, so there
Speaker 3: just really wasn't a lot, and I hooked on to
Speaker 3: what I could get, especially since I wasn't allowed to
Speaker 3: watch that much altogether. So Deep Stay nine really became
Speaker 3: my tether for the franchise, and I just kind of
Speaker 3: never stopped watching the series as a whole, except for
Speaker 3: the Enterprise years. I'm not ashamed to admit that, and
Speaker 3: DS nine is still my go to comfort show, and
Speaker 3: it's a little darker than The Next Generation, which I
Speaker 3: think I liked as a kid because it made me
Speaker 3: feel like adult to be watching something that seemed so
Speaker 3: subversive at the time. But that's Legacy Trek or Classic
Speaker 3: Star Trek, and I know it can be daunting to
Speaker 3: try to get into a ninety series where each season
Speaker 3: usually had like twenty to twenty six episodes, just because
Speaker 3: we made television differently back then. But luckily we're in
Speaker 3: this weird period where Trek is kind of suddenly cool
Speaker 3: and there's more series on the air right now than
Speaker 3: have ever been before. And I think that this making
Speaker 3: mainstream nerd culture that mostly Marvel really started and helped
Speaker 3: with is to thank for that. But yeah, so if
Speaker 3: you want to get into Star Trek, now is the
Speaker 3: time You've got your sci fi action adventure drama. With Discovery,
Speaker 3: you have a more grounded meditation on aging and grief
Speaker 3: and addiction with Star Trek Recard. There's Prodigy on Nickelodeon,
Speaker 3: which they say is for kids, but is definitely just
Speaker 3: for millennials who miss Star Trek Voyager and Captain Janeway.
Speaker 3: And then there's Star Trek Lower Ducks, which I think
Speaker 3: is not only the best one on right now but
Speaker 3: has the easiest point of entry. There's only two seasons,
Speaker 3: and it was created by one of the Rick and
Speaker 3: Morty writers, Mike McMahon, and it's just this hilarious yet
Speaker 3: never too a reverend animated sendup of not only Star
Speaker 3: Trek but also Star Trek's fans, because the four main
Speaker 3: characters that you're focusing on are just so clearly fans
Speaker 3: of Star Trek despite being in it, and it makes
Speaker 3: it so fun to watch. So looking to get into
Speaker 3: Star Trek and you want to get into it without
Speaker 3: too much commitment, you should find and watch at least
Speaker 3: season one of lower decks. That said, if commitment doesn't
Speaker 3: scare you and you love a show that's serialized over
Speaker 3: seven seasons of television, Deep Sase nine is still, for
Speaker 3: my money, the most modern Star Trek series ever created,
Speaker 3: despite being created in nineteen ninety three. It's miraculous and
Speaker 3: depressing how prescient that series is. And like, seriously, if
Speaker 3: you google the Bell Riots and San Francisco, you're gonna
Speaker 3: find some really upsetting parallels to everything that we have
Speaker 3: been dealing with pretty much for this entire millennium so far.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I've also just been going to check a
Speaker 3: lot during the pandemic because of the hope that the
Speaker 3: series embodies. It gives you hope that humanity can sort
Speaker 3: of figure our shit out because the earth of Star
Speaker 3: Trek is a place that exists post capitalism, post housing crises,
Speaker 3: post food scarcity. It's basically like humanities managed to eliminate
Speaker 3: most of the problems that make us suck now, and
Speaker 3: the reminder of that possibility while we've been living indoors
Speaker 3: and shut off for the past eighteen months has been
Speaker 3: really nice. Yeah. So Season four of Star Trek Discovery
Speaker 3: started last week and it's dropping probably every Thursday, like
Speaker 3: for the next ten to thirteen weeks, because that's how
Speaker 3: many episodes they normally do. So yeah, every Thursday, next
Speaker 3: ten to thirteen weeks on Paramount Plus. You can watch
Speaker 3: it there, and then there's just like a lot of
Speaker 3: stuff to be looking forward to as well. Strange New
Speaker 3: World is coming out, which is a toos eras series
Speaker 3: starring antson mount As Captain Pike and his version of
Speaker 3: Captain Pike was introduced in season two of Star Trek Discovery,
Speaker 3: which is, for my money, the best season of Star
Speaker 3: Trek Discovery.
Speaker 1: He's great.
Speaker 3: I'm really looking forward to that show, both for him
Speaker 3: and for the fact that it's not serialized. It's basically
Speaker 3: every episode is a bottle episode, and I think that's
Speaker 3: going to be really fun and takes check back to
Speaker 3: its suits a little bit because some of the best episodes,
Speaker 3: some of My favorite episodes are those standalone episodes where
Speaker 3: you just sort of it's a little plot, might be silly,
Speaker 3: like they might be playing baseball for an entire episode,
Speaker 3: but you're there's character development happening while that baseball game
Speaker 3: is happening in the Holidack. So I'm extremely excited about that.
Speaker 3: And then in twenty twenty two, we're getting season two
Speaker 3: of Picard, along with Strange New Worlds and probably at
Speaker 3: some point that rumored Noah Hawley.
Speaker 1: Star Trek movie.
Speaker 3: I know nothing about that, but you know it sounds interesting,
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know. That's my little star Trek
Speaker 3: check in, Jason. I hope I've piqued your interest a
Speaker 3: little bit. I'll send you some episode guides. There are
Speaker 3: some episode suggestions at some point. Thanks so much for
Speaker 3: having me and Live long and Prosper.
Speaker 1: Up next the airlock.
Speaker 2: Joining us now to talk about Hawkeye Episode one is
Speaker 2: our good friend, the great and talented super writer, super
Speaker 2: funny man Cody zig Ziggler Zig How are you. I
Speaker 2: was your Thanksgiving week.
Speaker 4: It's been great so far.
Speaker 5: I'm literally catching a red eye tonight, so by the
Speaker 5: time this drops I will be landing in North Carolina,
Speaker 5: very very sleepy. So it'll it'll, it'll be, it'll be
Speaker 5: a good week. I'm assuming it's gonna be a good week.
Speaker 5: I'm crossing my fingers. It's going to be a great Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: Do you have what is your Do you have like
Speaker 2: a strategy for air travel? Do you have like a
Speaker 2: what is your system?
Speaker 4: Bro?
Speaker 5: I got a science yo, I show up so you know,
Speaker 5: you know, I got attle bit of money. So I
Speaker 5: got that TSA pre check, no lines for your pa.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 4: I got it.
Speaker 1: I got that too.
Speaker 5: I showed forty five minutes before my flight. Pop my
Speaker 5: drama mean going off that, Jemmy means so because your
Speaker 5: boy gets at that airsickness and then I'm out like
Speaker 5: a light. As soon as the lights as soon as
Speaker 5: I get buckled in, I'm out, and i wake up
Speaker 5: and I'm in my home state. It feels great.
Speaker 1: I love it. For you, I am not going home.
Speaker 1: I picked one.
Speaker 2: It was either this or Christmas, and so I figured
Speaker 2: let's go. Let's go for Christmas. But I wish you
Speaker 2: the best, best to you and yours. That's gonna be,
Speaker 2: It's gonna be fantastic. I'm excited to talk about episode
Speaker 2: one of Hawkeye Today. We're gonna cover episodes two and
Speaker 2: three next week because I just had fun.
Speaker 1: This was a fun It's a fun show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's jump into it via a sort of recap.
Speaker 2: So Episode one, directed by Rhys Thomas, written by Jonathan Iglo,
Speaker 2: of course, starring our good friend Jeby Renner as Clint Barton,
Speaker 2: one of the great examples of Filipino representation in media.
Speaker 2: Hailey Steinfeld is Kate Bishop the Great, Via Farmiga as
Speaker 2: elean Or Bishop, Tony Dalton as Jack Ducaine.
Speaker 1: Uh with more on him later, and then who else
Speaker 1: appears in this?
Speaker 2: Linda Cardellini as Laura bart and Avera Russo is Lila Barton.
Speaker 2: We open in a flashback May fourth, twenty twelve, the
Speaker 2: day of the Chittari invasion of New York City, the
Speaker 2: devastating event for which we have now forgiven low Ki
Speaker 2: Remember that remember when.
Speaker 1: He did this?
Speaker 4: Yeah, every when he blew up half half of Manhattan.
Speaker 1: Yea, remember that there is only the wall.
Speaker 5: You know, He's gone through some things. You know, he's
Speaker 5: been recouped, you know, he he's learned his lesson, you know.
Speaker 1: So we meet a.
Speaker 2: Young Cape Bishop and her family's let's be honest about it,
Speaker 2: jaw dropping midtown penthouse.
Speaker 1: The Bishops are.
Speaker 4: Doing great, big succession vibes.
Speaker 5: I think they're right next door to the to the
Speaker 5: to the Roys, you know, like they got to see
Speaker 5: I want to see Kindle on that elevator that they share.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: So part of the reason why there's no omnibus for
Speaker 2: this week is that Kate Bishop is kind of a
Speaker 2: newer character, at least in mcu canon, and so like
Speaker 2: a lot of diving into her background, her family and stuff.
Speaker 2: It felt like it was gonna spoil the show. So
Speaker 2: wait for next week and succeeding weeks for that. But
Speaker 2: all of which is to say the Bishops are doing great.
Speaker 2: That's Eleanor and Derek, Kate's mom and dad respectively. They
Speaker 2: are in the midst of a pretty brutal argument about money.
Speaker 2: Zig they might have to move out of the penthouse.
Speaker 5: I know they have to second down and move to
Speaker 5: like the Brownstone. What are they gonna do.
Speaker 1: Or like or like upstate or something.
Speaker 4: Really terrible, like I hope the security company pulls through.
Speaker 2: Derek get out little realize that Kate is listening at
Speaker 2: the Irvin so Derek goes to talk to her and
Speaker 2: he's he's like, listen, YadA, YadA, YadA, I'm gonna move
Speaker 2: some stocks around.
Speaker 4: It's like it really.
Speaker 5: Is of like we're doing business stuff stocks her up.
Speaker 5: It's it's just like they have to get that scene along.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kate, don't worry about it. I got some stuff.
Speaker 2: You're going to college, full ride that's paid for. Don't
Speaker 2: worry about the student loans. You're out here, deal with that,
Speaker 2: and we're not leaving the penthouse.
Speaker 1: Don't worry.
Speaker 2: And in fact, also I feel it is my job
Speaker 2: to protect the family, Derek says, and I will protect
Speaker 2: you and your mom. Now, bad timing on that statement, because,
Speaker 2: of course, again this is the day of the Chatari invasion.
Speaker 1: The wall and very soon the.
Speaker 2: Bishop apartment and all of New York City are shaking
Speaker 2: under the Chatari assa.
Speaker 1: What we see later on that they're like two blocks.
Speaker 2: From Grand Central, which was like, yeah, it was just
Speaker 2: like right under the portal. The Chatari blast a hole
Speaker 2: in the wall of the beautiful penthouse apartment of the Bishops,
Speaker 2: and through that whole Kate watches as Hawkeye makes that
Speaker 2: iconic dive from twenty twelve's marvels the Avengers off of
Speaker 2: the top of a roof, shoots his grappling arrow, swings
Speaker 2: in to the window, and Kate is entranced by this,
Speaker 2: and we know that in that moment her life has changed,
Speaker 2: a really fun kind of mirroring of events from her
Speaker 2: comics canon, where she also was like Hawkeye always her favorite.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Eleanor collects Kate and the two are like, let's get
Speaker 2: out of here, and unfortunately, very sadly, Derek does not
Speaker 2: make it. He's one of the only seventy six New Yorkers.
Speaker 4: Killed in the attack, an alien to hear.
Speaker 2: One of the I hate to see it, one of
Speaker 2: the only seventy four again, seventy four.
Speaker 1: Great job by the Avengers, they.
Speaker 2: Clearly they outperformed all the projections. Only seventy four people,
Speaker 2: and one of them is Derek. At the funeral, Kate
Speaker 2: tells Eleanor that and this is a lot to put
Speaker 2: on a kid. I'm sorry, Eleanor, I think this is
Speaker 2: do we all had a grief in different ways. I
Speaker 2: think this is a lot to put on Kate. Eleanor
Speaker 2: is like, it's your job now to protect the family,
Speaker 2: which is again, Kate is like nine, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: like I need you to figure out what what your
Speaker 2: dad was going to do with those stocks and the
Speaker 2: portfolio anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Kate says, I need a bow and arrow bomb.
Speaker 4: Bom bom bo. We're all perfect cold open.
Speaker 5: Like if this is like if they were, it's such
Speaker 5: an easy one to want to like this is like
Speaker 5: the Kate Bishop comic, Like this is the first five
Speaker 5: pages you see splash title, like then you're into it.
Speaker 4: Flash forward ten years later, it's perfect.
Speaker 1: What's your what is your method for the perfect cold open?
Speaker 4: Ah Man?
Speaker 2: You Cody zig Ziggler, professional writer for TV and page
Speaker 2: tell us, let us know.
Speaker 1: How do we do it?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 5: You know, you got to give them a hint of
Speaker 5: like what's to come, Like you want to be like,
Speaker 5: this is the world that we're happening, and that's what's
Speaker 5: going on, and you're like you want to plant the
Speaker 5: seat early on, like this is going to be what
Speaker 5: their adventure is. Like this is a perfect example that
Speaker 5: if it's like Morty being like, oh, I want to
Speaker 5: go to like ice cream Planet, you want to see
Speaker 5: him like to see why he wants to go to
Speaker 5: ice Cream Planet and like you want to see why
Speaker 5: Kate wants to become Hawkeye, and like this is the
Speaker 5: perfect perfect setup for it.
Speaker 4: No notees ten ten love it.
Speaker 2: We're back in the present day, which is probably sometime
Speaker 2: around twenty twenty four or thereabouts.
Speaker 1: In the MCU.
Speaker 2: Canon, college student Kate Bishop, a black belt at fifteen,
Speaker 2: we find out and a crack shot with a bow
Speaker 2: and arrow. Member of the university archery team breaks into
Speaker 2: a campus building, scales to the roof, takes aim with
Speaker 2: her bow and an arrow with like a tennis ball
Speaker 2: on the end at the university bell tower. Her friends
Speaker 2: in contact with her over the phone. They watch from
Speaker 2: across the quad. Kate lets loose. She hits the bell.
Speaker 2: There's like a light pong nothing okay. She's like, let's
Speaker 2: try it again. I'm gonna ring this bell. She fires
Speaker 2: another arrow, this one beautiful, hits the rope, shakes, the clapper,
Speaker 2: rings the bell. But unfortunately this bell tower is like
Speaker 2: so fucking decrepit that it immediately collapses. All I know
Speaker 2: is if I'm Kate, I'm spinning this like I did
Speaker 2: you a favor, because this collapsed in a strong wind
Speaker 2: and killed kids.
Speaker 1: Like for any time.
Speaker 5: The Stark the Stark Fund to like rebuild that Dell
Speaker 5: tire just hadn't hit.
Speaker 1: Yet, so no one is killed.
Speaker 2: In New York City, Clint Barton and his kids are
Speaker 2: taking in a showing of Rogers the Musical and Folks.
Speaker 2: It's a blast, It absolutely crushes its fantastic. Clint can't
Speaker 2: help but point out that Scott lang ant Man was
Speaker 2: not president at the Battle of New York as he
Speaker 2: is in the particular to see that they're watching the
Speaker 2: show is a celebration of the heroism of the Avengers,
Speaker 2: and naturally it bumps Clint out because he cannot help
Speaker 2: but be reminded of his friend Natasha, who perished on Vormeir.
Speaker 2: As Clint looked on helplessly. Essentially, his daughter Lyla is like, Dad,
Speaker 2: you turn off your hearing aid. Now Here we get
Speaker 2: the first MCU canonical men of Clint Barton being hearing impaired,
Speaker 2: which is an important part of his character since the eighties.
Speaker 1: Ye basically Hawkeye.
Speaker 2: And the family they leave in the middle of the show,
Speaker 2: which if rude, rude, but honestly, like really it was.
Speaker 2: You know, they're a close family. Because the kids aren't
Speaker 2: giving him shit about it. Yeah, they get it.
Speaker 5: But yeah, we we honestly didn't want to be here,
Speaker 5: but we Yeah.
Speaker 2: In the bathroom, Clint sees graffiti reading Thanos's right, which
Speaker 2: is a wild take.
Speaker 4: It's a wild take.
Speaker 5: Also, it's wild that someone would do that at a
Speaker 5: Broadway bathroom, like they would take the tiner rite.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what. When he clapped at the universe, he.
Speaker 1: Was on, like, you know what, that was pretty good.
Speaker 2: And some guy asked for a selfie as Clint is
Speaker 2: unloading his pink arrow into the eurinal.
Speaker 1: This is always a no go. Don't do this.
Speaker 4: Fun yeah, yeah, on not in the bathroom?
Speaker 1: Have you ever been approached in the restroom?
Speaker 5: Gotta wait, have I ever know? Luckily, no one knows
Speaker 5: who I am, so like that's the main benefit. So
Speaker 5: like I'm trying to keep that going, Like, but I
Speaker 5: have you know, everyone's been in a situation where like
Speaker 5: the dude comes up like the stall right next to
Speaker 5: You're like, hey man, we got plenty of his face,
Speaker 5: Like I got a long week and let's enjoy this,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Kate arrives back in the City of tail between
Speaker 2: her legs after destroying a large feature of the campus,
Speaker 2: Eleanor is getting ready to head to a charity auction.
Speaker 2: She irons Kate out over the destruction of the clock tower,
Speaker 2: and to show that she is fucking big mad, she
Speaker 2: mentions that she cancels all of Kate's cards.
Speaker 4: Got that, yeah, right, put you in your place.
Speaker 5: That's when, like, you know, everyone's like, how do you
Speaker 5: write the superheroes? How do you write to someone that's
Speaker 5: from another planet. It's like, this is the thing that
Speaker 5: could relate to is like the ultra wealthy. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: like if I destroyed like a building at a college campus.
Speaker 5: And my big point of it was like I can't
Speaker 5: have my credit card anymore, Like.
Speaker 4: I wish, I wish I could take that.
Speaker 2: And that's like, so she still has a bank card
Speaker 2: and stuff, like she's still out here.
Speaker 1: Did you ever in college?
Speaker 2: I knew a couple of kids who had trust funds.
Speaker 4: Oh did you ever.
Speaker 1: Know anybody who had to trust?
Speaker 2: And so the way it was set up for them
Speaker 2: was like it was my friend Chris, and he was
Speaker 2: like his dad was like a vice president of PEPSI
Speaker 2: or some shit. Like his hobby was like he would
Speaker 2: race yachts, like down to the Bahamas.
Speaker 4: That one does. Yeah does.
Speaker 5: When I was in film school, I knew this cat
Speaker 5: who his family like was like the country's equivalent like
Speaker 5: the Hershey Empire, like they invented Hershey for like that country.
Speaker 5: And like one day a professor was like, Hey, what's
Speaker 5: your budget for your film? And dude just showed him
Speaker 5: his bank account. He's like, that's my budget.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: He's like, oh, okay, cool. Like I would wish I
Speaker 5: could get that type of flex. Shout out to my
Speaker 5: boy Luke kill.
Speaker 4: Him the game.
Speaker 2: It was incredible to watch my friend Chris, who would
Speaker 2: just be like it would be like Monday at twelve
Speaker 2: oh one am and he'd just be like, oh, my
Speaker 2: trust fund and cash just dropped for the next two weeks.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I love it. Let's let's go to Denny's.
Speaker 2: Kate Eleanor is like, Kate, you got to come to
Speaker 2: the charity auction, Okay. So Kate goes to get dressed
Speaker 2: and on the way she notices a sword.
Speaker 1: In the apartment. Uh huh.
Speaker 2: It belongs to Eleanor's new boyfriend, the incredibly mustachioed ye
Speaker 2: Jack Duke Kane Hello, played again by Tony Dalton, who
Speaker 2: I guess spoiler, Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Even though let's do it Sue's spoiler.
Speaker 2: Jack Dukane is the Marvel villain, the Swordsman, whose background
Speaker 2: and whose relationship with the other characters in this will
Speaker 2: be revealed by the show, but he is the Swordsman.
Speaker 2: Jack is also going to the auction. At dinner, Clint
Speaker 2: puts Laura on speakerphone. They're at this wonderful Chinese restaurant,
Speaker 2: and Young Nate spills immediately folds under questioning that the
Speaker 2: family left.
Speaker 1: Halfway through the music goal.
Speaker 2: Your dad is trying to is trying to spin a
Speaker 2: yarn here, don Nate, what are you doing?
Speaker 4: He's covered for all, y'all. You gotta have his back.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: Natasha would never never like this is That's the other thing.
Speaker 2: Clint as like a hardened former secret agent partner of
Speaker 2: the Great Black Widow. Natasha Romanov has to be absolutely
Speaker 2: sickened by.
Speaker 1: Young Nate immediately just being like, wee we left in
Speaker 1: the middle of the show.
Speaker 4: Stretch kid rift.
Speaker 2: Come on, we find out that the family will soon reunite.
Speaker 1: Next day, They're gonna be together.
Speaker 2: In the meantime, Clint promises, folks, we're gonna have the
Speaker 2: best Barton family Christmas ever. Back to the auction, where
Speaker 2: Kate has decided mystifyingly to dress not just an all
Speaker 2: black but like legitimately like a waiter at an at
Speaker 2: a charity auction, to a point where like it's not
Speaker 2: even it's not even just like all black, but like
Speaker 2: in a waiter's outfit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, oh, James Bond is pulling up the party.
Speaker 5: Let's go. I mean fit like her fit was done.
Speaker 5: It was inmact that I could even quite like, I say,
Speaker 5: that's a that's a dope fit.
Speaker 2: So she she meets Armand Ducane, who a relation, older relation,
Speaker 2: the uncle of Jack Ducaine, and he is a snowy
Speaker 2: hair gentleman with this kind of indistinct European accent who
Speaker 2: apparently has known Kate since she was a child. She
Speaker 2: used to go over to his brownstone with all the
Speaker 2: other kids and have like rich kid events over there.
Speaker 2: Armand mentions that Eleanor and Jack are getting hitched. They're
Speaker 2: getting married. Oh you didn't know, that's right, she didn't
Speaker 2: mention it. Armand is and this is a weird vibe.
Speaker 2: Armand is like, I'm trying to talk Jack out of it.
Speaker 1: Wait what?
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't maybe keep that voice in your head. You
Speaker 5: don't need to tell you.
Speaker 2: Why are you telling this to Kate who clearly didn't
Speaker 2: even know they were getting married, And now not only
Speaker 2: does she find out her mom's getting married, but.
Speaker 1: To a guy whose uncle is being like, don't do this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now, defend this, dude, because you're partner.
Speaker 2: With Come on, Armand suggests that Jack's motives are not
Speaker 2: quite on the up and up again over sharing.
Speaker 1: By Armand Duke Kde Eleanor later apologizes for not telling
Speaker 1: Kate herself. That's a smart apology, right there.
Speaker 2: Kate, having to process this, goes outside for a walk
Speaker 2: or just to hang out outside catch the air. She
Speaker 2: meets a draggled Golden Retriever who we know from the
Speaker 2: comics as Lucky the Future, the soon to be future
Speaker 2: pizza dog who will soon find a forever home in
Speaker 2: Kate and Clint's hearts and.
Speaker 4: All of our heart hearts.
Speaker 2: Kate wanders into the back rooms of the auction and
Speaker 2: she overhears a heated conversation between Armand and Eleanor, and
Speaker 2: Eleanor plays it off.
Speaker 1: She's like, don't worry about that.
Speaker 2: Kate follows Armand through the hallways and the kitchen to
Speaker 2: the wine cellar where the auction is taking place. In Folks,
Speaker 2: this is sketchy the shit that is going on down here.
Speaker 1: Let's be real.
Speaker 5: There's always the eyes wide shut situation happening anywhere within
Speaker 5: someone that has that many zeros behind their bank account.
Speaker 2: And like the number one red flag, first red flag
Speaker 2: is we're not doing this auction like in the ballroom.
Speaker 2: We're doing it in the in the fucking basement like
Speaker 2: wine cellar, Like why is that the place where it's happening.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're wait for me to like a piece of
Speaker 5: like our man's broken suit or something like you know
Speaker 5: it's gonna be popping.
Speaker 2: The very first thing that they're auctioning is like a
Speaker 2: dinosaur skull, savage land drop potentially. And then so as
Speaker 2: Kate is looking on, suddenly a very interesting parcel pops up,
Speaker 2: and that is something that was scavenged from the ruins
Speaker 2: of the Avengers compound. It is the Ronan's sword, which
Speaker 2: has the blood of hundreds.
Speaker 1: I don't know if human beings on it.
Speaker 4: If you're a person doing crime, your blood's probably on that.
Speaker 2: You are dead. The Ronan's sword and costume. Armand and
Speaker 2: Jack both want a bit on it. Jack Armand is like, Jack,
Speaker 2: you're broke. What are you talking about. You're a broke boy.
Speaker 2: You don't have any money. Armand wins the sword, and
Speaker 2: just as beating is about to open on the suit,
Speaker 2: the wall explodes and Russian mafia figures a track suit
Speaker 2: mafia we were soon to learn, a Russian organized crime
Speaker 2: group strikes. In the confusion, Jack takes the Ronan sword,
Speaker 2: Kate grabs the suit, and she overhears the Russians mentioned
Speaker 2: that their target is another item from the Avengers compound.
Speaker 1: It is a watch. Now.
Speaker 2: Kate, clad in the Ronan suit, takes on the Russians
Speaker 2: and does a great job. Yeah, it shouts to Kate's
Speaker 2: martial arts teacher who has been training her at a
Speaker 2: young age and is obviously like one of the fucking
Speaker 2: best to.
Speaker 1: Ever do it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she was getting lessons from Jason Bourne like she
Speaker 5: was taking these cats out.
Speaker 2: She was like, what's this, I'll take an eight bottle
Speaker 2: of eighteen sixty two pino and just like iron out
Speaker 2: five hardened Russian organized crime figures.
Speaker 1: Bop bop bop bop bop Meanwhile, out on the street, Lucky.
Speaker 2: Comes across one of the Russian crime guys who has
Speaker 2: found the watch. He just like stumbles on it and
Speaker 2: one and some of the packages that they're sending up
Speaker 2: to the street, and almost as if he knows what
Speaker 2: it is, Lucky grabs the guy's ankle, and the Russian
Speaker 2: guy is mad at this, and he kicks the dog,
Speaker 2: and then Kate comes to the dog's aid and saves
Speaker 2: Lucky from getting hit by a car. I was actually
Speaker 2: scared that the dog would get hit by which you know,
Speaker 2: as we all know, is a thing that does happen
Speaker 2: in the comics, and I just would not.
Speaker 1: Be able to take that in live action. Thank you
Speaker 1: for not doing that.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the Bartons, now full from dinner, are back in
Speaker 2: their suite after taking in the tree at Rockefeller Center.
Speaker 2: They turned the TV on and there's a report on
Speaker 2: New York One. The great Pat Kiernan, who, let me
Speaker 2: just say Pat Kiernan New York One. He is an
Speaker 2: actual anchor on New York One, which is New York
Speaker 2: City's like cable news network, and my guy, Pat Kiernan.
Speaker 2: Anytime there is something said in New York, Pat Kirnan
Speaker 2: is always on the TV. This guy is cacking up.
Speaker 2: Congratulations to him. So Clint sees a report that the
Speaker 2: Ronan has been cited in New York City outside an
Speaker 2: explosion at a high class auction, and Clint is like,
Speaker 2: wait a second, hold on.
Speaker 1: The suit that I wore to kill?
Speaker 4: Yeah, wait a minute, is.
Speaker 1: Someone's running around as me. I can't have that happen.
Speaker 2: They might frame me for a few other murders in
Speaker 2: addition to the hundreds that I have committed across the globe.
Speaker 4: I earned those bodies, now, dare you?
Speaker 2: So Clint is like, okay, kids, stay here. I got
Speaker 2: to figure out what's going on with this, and he
Speaker 2: heads off to investigate. Kate and Lucky, meanwhile, are back
Speaker 2: at Kate's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you call this, like a condo.
Speaker 5: Condo loft. Like Also, there's like a restaurant. There's like
Speaker 5: a booth in there, so it's like a ninety sitcom set.
Speaker 5: We're like, I wish I could have clyss to, I
Speaker 5: wish I could have hay Artol's room when I was
Speaker 5: a kid.
Speaker 4: Like this.
Speaker 2: She's got like the training facility there, She's got like
Speaker 2: the archery stuff like so and this is kind of
Speaker 2: in the comics. Kate basically funds the young Avengers like
Speaker 2: offer trust fund, Like they don't have any money and
Speaker 2: some of them are not even from this planet. So
Speaker 2: Kate has to provide the funding for that. And we
Speaker 2: can see how maybe that could happen. Here by Kate's
Speaker 2: again unbelievable apartment, Kate feeds Lucky pizza. Thus he becomes
Speaker 2: Lucky the Pizza Dog. We christen him in the Ear
Speaker 2: of Our Lord. She's like, Okay, I gotta find out,
Speaker 2: like something fishy about Armand. I gotta find out what's
Speaker 2: going on with this auction. She breaks into Armand's mansion
Speaker 2: and finds one but monogrammed butterscotch. Armand is the type
Speaker 2: of rich where he's like, I don't take anything into
Speaker 2: my body that doesn't have my initials on it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, am I poor? No you got Brad. We get
Speaker 5: this monogrammed candy Son pull.
Speaker 2: Up, and right after that Armand's body, Oh Armand is dead.
Speaker 2: Kate flees out in the street. Outside Armand's mansion. She
Speaker 2: runs into the tracksuit mafia.
Speaker 1: They surround Kate.
Speaker 2: She again fights them off ably for a while, but
Speaker 2: just the stuff.
Speaker 1: Is beginning to get out of hand.
Speaker 2: She locks herself in a car and while she's in
Speaker 2: that car, bodies start dropping.
Speaker 1: What is it? Clint Barton is here, that's right.
Speaker 2: He hauls Kate out of the car into an alley,
Speaker 2: rips the Ronan mask off of her and sees that
Speaker 2: it's this young woman and he's like, wait what And
Speaker 2: now we're onto episode two. Zig would you think of
Speaker 2: episode one of Hawkeye?
Speaker 4: Yo? I I loved it. It was fun.
Speaker 5: They're like I had a bunch of thoughts just going
Speaker 5: around through it. But like my main thing is like
Speaker 5: one like you finally like they get they let Hawkeye
Speaker 5: do something that they give him, Like he's not just
Speaker 5: like family, I have a family doing like he you
Speaker 5: get to see him do some stuff, like you get
Speaker 5: to toablished that one that he is like hearing here
Speaker 5: in pair, Like it's a big thing, like you said
Speaker 5: in the comics. Huge, But more importantly, my favorite thing
Speaker 5: is like we get introduced in like some street level Marvel,
Speaker 5: Like we've never had true on the ground Marvel. It's
Speaker 5: always like cosmic threat or universal threat, but like seeing
Speaker 5: this world like it seems very naturally like oh if
Speaker 5: I go two blocks this way and we're gonna see
Speaker 5: Kingpin fighting the Punisher or like is j Ever gonna
Speaker 5: like swing By in the background or something like that.
Speaker 5: Like I love that, and also I love that, you know,
Speaker 5: Kate is very capable. Yeah, she still like gets her
Speaker 5: ass kicked a little bit, which I think is it's
Speaker 5: a very common theme for like fractions Hawkeye in general. Like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I like that they're applying like the band aids I
Speaker 5: think already and all that stuff, or maybe that's episode two,
Speaker 5: but like I love what it's setting up, like ground Level,
Speaker 5: street Wise Marvel.
Speaker 4: I love what they're doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's some of my favorite stuff. When I first
Speaker 2: started collecting comics, it was X Men and Daredevil, So
Speaker 2: Daredevil was my that was my street level guy, and
Speaker 2: the fraction in an I series. The specific way in
Speaker 2: which it kind of redefined Hawkeye for an entire new
Speaker 2: generation of comics readers is by making him this street
Speaker 2: level guy and leaning into the whole man.
Speaker 1: I hang out with gods.
Speaker 2: And super soldiers and geniuses, and I'm just like a
Speaker 2: dude with a bow and arrow, Like I'm not one
Speaker 2: hundred percent sure what I'm doing here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm also like good at what I do.
Speaker 1: It's super super fun.
Speaker 2: I love the contrast of like when Kate this is
Speaker 2: episode two, a little we promised we wouldn't do this,
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: There's a moment where Hawkeye's like, Okay, we need supplies
Speaker 2: and Kate is like, oh man, we're going to shit,
Speaker 2: We're going to Avengers Tower, We're going to fucking the
Speaker 2: Avengers compound. We're going to some secret like shield save
Speaker 2: it now. We're going to the bodega and get some
Speaker 2: neosworn get a box advantages like that kind of I'm
Speaker 2: just a guy energy, I think is what made the
Speaker 2: Hawkeye comic really fun. And their chemistry together as like
Speaker 2: her the kind of like reckless hot shot and Clint
Speaker 2: Barton the guy who's kind of like done all the
Speaker 2: reckless stuff.
Speaker 1: Is yeah, wonderful.
Speaker 2: I love the fact that we basically are entree to
Speaker 2: the story is basically through Kate, you know, for these
Speaker 2: early episodes, which I think is great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 5: The thing that reminds me of like it's what I
Speaker 5: find the most enjoyable about like a legacy character, Like
Speaker 5: we got a little bit of that with like I
Speaker 5: guess we got a lot of that in Falcon Winter Soldier,
Speaker 5: but like it was like they were contemporaries like Steven
Speaker 5: I guess, well, I guess Steve was like ninety, but
Speaker 5: like they've worked.
Speaker 4: Together in the past.
Speaker 5: It wasn't like, you know what I really enjoyed about,
Speaker 5: like a legacy passing the ton It's like, yeah, you
Speaker 5: have the grumpy old Yoda meeting the wide eyed, optimistic
Speaker 5: young upstart.
Speaker 4: That's like, isn't it so cool being Hawkeye?
Speaker 5: Like no, it sucks, like I broken all my bones,
Speaker 5: all my friends are dead, Like there's a I think
Speaker 5: this might be a spoiler.
Speaker 4: Maybe No, I think it's no.
Speaker 5: It's in the first episode where like you see like
Speaker 5: how Hawkeye loss is hearing like explosions going off, and like, yeah,
Speaker 5: you're seeing through walls and stuff. Like it's cool seeing
Speaker 5: that aspect, and it makes the Baton Pass seems so
Speaker 5: much more I don't know, fun and fulfilling because it's
Speaker 5: a younger character, Like you can then think yourself in
Speaker 5: that character, like she's you know, got a different perspective
Speaker 5: than Hawkeye, Like her journey seems is going to be
Speaker 5: like you know, reinrigering the spark in Hawkey and Clant
Speaker 5: and him being him like sort of letting the shields
Speaker 5: down and being like, oh, it's I guess it's it's hard,
Speaker 5: but it's not that bad. Like that's that's what it
Speaker 5: seems like the journey is going to be. I'm so
Speaker 5: stoked for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really glad that they brought in.
Speaker 2: His hearing impairment and specifically in the way they did,
Speaker 2: because I think I love there being some kind of
Speaker 2: effect of like all these battles and all these losses
Speaker 2: and some sort of whether it's physical or psychological, some
Speaker 2: sort of trauma that the character is dealing with. I
Speaker 2: thought that was for me the most interesting thing about
Speaker 2: Iron Man three was that Tony was Tony was having trouble,
Speaker 2: like dealing with the fact that he had to fight
Speaker 2: off an alien vasion and then had come to a
Speaker 2: place in his own mind where he was like, you
Speaker 2: know what, I am willing to be the guy that
Speaker 2: lays down on the wire. I will pick up the
Speaker 2: nuclear bomb and I will fly it through a portal.
Speaker 2: And he was still dealing with that. So I love
Speaker 2: the fact that the Clint that we are meaning now through.
Speaker 2: This is a guy who is trying to leave that
Speaker 2: stuff behind on some level, and he's just trying to
Speaker 2: live a family life.
Speaker 1: You know, he's got his family back. Now.
Speaker 2: I love that stuff, and it's just such a great
Speaker 2: entree into these characters. I want to ask, because this
Speaker 2: is not necessarily a theory, but it's a thing that
Speaker 2: I wonder will happen. So famously, Clint's love interest in
Speaker 2: the comics is a Mockingbird, a former Shield agent. Their
Speaker 2: relationship is often described as like mister and missus Smith.
Speaker 1: You know, like these two secret agents.
Speaker 2: They fight and they argue, but also like they're just
Speaker 2: romantically doing espionage. Shit, do you think that, Laura Barton,
Speaker 2: We're going to find out at some point that I
Speaker 2: know that there is a Mockingbird in Agents of Shield,
Speaker 2: which I suspect.
Speaker 1: Is not canon anymore.
Speaker 2: But do you think we'll find out that Linda CARDLINI
Speaker 2: Laura Barton is like retired Mockingbird.
Speaker 5: I think I could definitely see that, because like she's one,
Speaker 5: she's very she seems as she's prepared. In the movie,
Speaker 5: he seems so uninterested or unconcerned with like nick Shop stuff,
Speaker 5: Like oh, the words just hanging out with my property,
Speaker 5: cutting wood with Captain America whatever.
Speaker 4: I've seen it all. I think it's that.
Speaker 5: Or if episode six Hawkey will be like that's my girl,
Speaker 5: my little Mockingbird, like that'll be like, that'll be it.
Speaker 5: I think it's one of the two extrings. I think
Speaker 5: the cooler answer is the cooler theory would be like Shields,
Speaker 5: She's like, I take it a bullet for fucking Nick Fury.
Speaker 5: Let me just chill, have these kids on this farm,
Speaker 5: you call me mom or whatever. Wilke Chop wouldn't play baseball.
Speaker 2: So we've got now, with the introduction of Kate Bishop,
Speaker 2: basically the full young Avengers lineup minus Hulkling, who I
Speaker 2: could see us getting in Secret Invasion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a theory that I have.
Speaker 2: I think because we know that Yolena is going to
Speaker 2: show up, and we know that Valentina Alegrodfontaine Julie Luis
Speaker 2: Dreyfus's kind of like darker Nick Fury character is going
Speaker 2: to show up in this. I wonder if they're going
Speaker 2: to try to recruit Kate for this kind of like
Speaker 2: new Thunderbolt Slash Avengers team, and then she's gonna be
Speaker 2: like no, I don't want to do that. And then
Speaker 2: we get the off ramp into Young Avengers, which she
Speaker 2: funds and is like this kind of like scrappy street
Speaker 2: level bunch of young kids.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, doing their superhero thing.
Speaker 5: I could totally see that. I could definitely see like
Speaker 5: this is like I mean, obviously this is her origin story,
Speaker 5: but like she she's gonna have I think she. I
Speaker 5: could see her having her Tony Stark woman at the
Speaker 5: end where like the a falls off her apartment and
Speaker 5: you see, oh, this is what it's all about. Like
Speaker 5: I want to fund I'm gonna get my boy Eli
Speaker 5: in here. I want to get kid Loki whenever he
Speaker 5: shows up and like that kickstarts everything for Cam.
Speaker 1: I'm excited for Kid Loki, a potential Kid Loki.
Speaker 2: Do you have any favorite like Hawkeye slash Kate Bishop,
Speaker 2: whether it either Hawkeye or Hawk Guy moments from the
Speaker 2: comics that, yeah, people should be interested.
Speaker 4: There's there's two.
Speaker 5: There's one when it's like Hawkeye just shows up at
Speaker 5: this apartment and like so the fraction comic is just
Speaker 5: literally Hawkeye is done with the job, so he moves
Speaker 5: into like this crappy apartment and he becomes like the
Speaker 5: shoulder that all the Tendants cry on. It's just him
Speaker 5: fighting off the tracks mafia. But like all that stuff
Speaker 5: is fun. But like there's a couple issue run where
Speaker 5: like we just hang out with Kate for like a
Speaker 5: little bit. She's like on the West Coast being like
Speaker 5: a sleuth and stuff, Like you really get to see
Speaker 5: her La Kate, Yeah, Lakate, Like she's like there's a
Speaker 5: really fun panel that always think if it's her, like
Speaker 5: a cell phone, it's like just straight up creeping is
Speaker 5: like what the panel are is.
Speaker 4: And yeah, it's so fun, and like.
Speaker 5: That's the energy that like I'm hoping that they're build
Speaker 5: a word from seeing that they are like Kate's fun
Speaker 5: and personal great offset to like you know, grumpy old Hawkeye.
Speaker 5: But like that's the energy that I'm most excited to
Speaker 5: see pop through because you know a lot of these
Speaker 5: these series and shows, it just our movies have been
Speaker 5: like the old Guard doing the thing and now you finally,
Speaker 5: like Peter Parker was like the youngest person to be
Speaker 5: in the mix.
Speaker 4: So it's good getting some like young blood energy in there.
Speaker 2: My favorite stuff is I love her Young Avengers introduction.
Speaker 1: There is a panel in there where.
Speaker 2: So she's hanging out with Marvel Boys Slash Novar, who
Speaker 2: doesn't like to be called Marvel Bold, but she calls
Speaker 2: him that, and they've just hooked up, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, there is a Scull attack and Kate flies
Speaker 2: into action and her internal narration is awesome and it's
Speaker 2: done this like really cool art style. But she's thinking
Speaker 2: as she's bringing into action, like I might misquote it,
Speaker 2: but it's like I'm not ready and I have nowhere
Speaker 2: near enough training, but I'm doing this anywhere. And that
Speaker 2: to me is always like, especially in the early run
Speaker 2: of her character, is I just love that energy from
Speaker 2: her where it's like she's maybe not quite ready. How
Speaker 2: could you be ready for some of the You've got
Speaker 2: to go fight Hydra and Aim and like all these
Speaker 2: other international supervillain organizations, how could you possibly be ready
Speaker 2: for that? But she's doing it anyway because she was
Speaker 2: born to do this. I love that, Cheff. And so
Speaker 2: the first like six issues of Young Avengers when we
Speaker 2: first meet everybody, and then the all New Hawkeye series
Speaker 2: where it was part of like the kind of like
Speaker 2: all new movement at Marvel where different people picked up
Speaker 2: the legacy costume and became different thor different Captain America,
Speaker 2: different Hawkeye, and we get a I won't talk about
Speaker 2: what it is because I think that this is probably
Speaker 2: going to be a lot of the stuff that is
Speaker 2: revealed later in the series. But we get a really
Speaker 2: cool retelling slash retcon of Clint Barton's origin story as
Speaker 2: basically how he comes to pick up a bow and arrow,
Speaker 2: told interspersed with kind of Kate's adventures as Hawkeye, and
Speaker 2: it's just like super cool.
Speaker 1: And really really emotionally evocative.
Speaker 2: This is like the Project Communion storyline, which involves these
Speaker 2: superpowered kids and having to rescue them, and that branches
Speaker 2: off into another timeline which is a whole nother complicated
Speaker 2: thing that only takes place in Marvel comics or comics
Speaker 2: in general. And I hope some of that stuff comes out.
Speaker 2: Any predictions as.
Speaker 5: We go forward, Man, I think you've already touched on,
Speaker 5: like the sword has been showing up. I feel like
Speaker 5: there seem to be really keying in on like this
Speaker 5: ground level stuff with like the bros the brows in
Speaker 5: this in the sweatsuits. I hope that we get some
Speaker 5: like cameos from other street level people, Like I don't
Speaker 5: think it'll be someone like you know, the Dollars of
Speaker 5: the Dragon, but like I would love to get like
Speaker 5: a little seat plant, like oh, this is I don't know,
Speaker 5: this is I don't know what I think of any
Speaker 5: street level character that hangs out in New York, Like
Speaker 5: I think that that's what I'm most excited about, But
Speaker 5: I'm also your idea of her this being the the
Speaker 5: the ideation of like the the the New Avengers or
Speaker 5: like the Young Avengers, Like, yeah, I'm really curious to see,
Speaker 5: like what happens like episode six, like the last five
Speaker 5: minutes when like she's sweeping up the burnt out remains
Speaker 5: of her apartment or whatever and like things together like that,
Speaker 5: what's that pop moment to like, Oh, I should make
Speaker 5: the New Avenders.
Speaker 1: Like springboarding off that.
Speaker 2: I have one prediction that I think from your kind
Speaker 2: of like street level take, so we know that Echo
Speaker 2: is going to show up, and I do wonder if
Speaker 2: Electra shows up like as the leader of a trans
Speaker 2: national Japanese organized crime outfit known as the Hand, maybe
Speaker 2: like that could.
Speaker 1: I could see that potentially happening.
Speaker 2: Which gives us some cool off ramps into not only
Speaker 2: various street level characters, but maybe some cool like secret invasion.
Speaker 1: Reveals and then listen.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is going to happen, but
Speaker 2: I do wonder if Clint Barton Hawkeye buys it in this.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah show.
Speaker 2: Yeah so Clint Barton. We'll cover this in later episodes
Speaker 2: of Extra Vision. But Clint Barton also wears the cost
Speaker 2: to him of Ronan. We know that from the MCU,
Speaker 2: but he does it in the comics, and but he's
Speaker 2: not the first person to wear it because he's dead
Speaker 2: at the time kind of the first Ronan shows up.
Speaker 2: It's very complicated. He dies in quick succession twice and
Speaker 2: is like resurrected twice.
Speaker 1: We won't go into it again. It's comic shit.
Speaker 2: But I do wonder if, similar to that, if he
Speaker 2: does not buy it towards the end of this series.
Speaker 4: Or it gets like so severely injured that like he
Speaker 4: can't do.
Speaker 2: He can't do it anymore and he just wants to
Speaker 2: like go home and like just you know, chop wheat, mama.
Speaker 2: This has been a fun conversation. Excited to do it
Speaker 2: over the course of the next few weeks up next
Speaker 2: to the endgame, there is no end game.
Speaker 1: There is only actually we're in the end game now.
Speaker 2: Today we're playing another round of Assembly Required, in which
Speaker 2: Zig and I will select something from the two episodes
Speaker 2: of Hawkeye for randomly assigned mission and hope that our
Speaker 2: selections will help our fictional, improvised scenario accomplish this mission. Chris,
Speaker 2: what is the mission that we have selected for this
Speaker 2: game of Assembly Required?
Speaker 5: All right, Well, because of the impending Thanksgiving holiday, your
Speaker 5: mission this week is to pick someone from the first
Speaker 5: two episodes of Hawkeye to help.
Speaker 4: You cook Thanksgiving dinner.
Speaker 5: Well, let's say like a big Thanksgiving dinner, good, like,
Speaker 5: you know, ten to twelve people, full family.
Speaker 1: Here, Oh, I love it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So characters or things from the first two episodes
Speaker 2: of Hawkeye to help us make and serve Thanksgiving dinner.
Speaker 1: Sig, would you like to go first?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I have my answer locked in.
Speaker 5: This is going to be sort of a Captain America
Speaker 5: situation where, like the leading they're they're delegating task. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna pick Kate's two black roommates from the opening of
Speaker 5: Hawkeye one.
Speaker 4: I can guarantee you.
Speaker 5: They got the risk, they know how to cook, they
Speaker 5: let it come from big families. I'm sure they got
Speaker 5: that the corn bread on lock. I'm sure they got
Speaker 5: the sweet potato pie on lock. I'm trusting them. They're
Speaker 5: my two picks.
Speaker 1: This is actually fantastic. I love it.
Speaker 2: I am gonna pick Hawkeye and Jack Ducane, the swordsman.
Speaker 2: Hawkeye is going to season and prepare the turkey using
Speaker 2: a selection of tricks shot arrows. He's gonna use a
Speaker 2: seasoning arrow, he's gonna use a gravy arrow, and he's
Speaker 2: gonna use like some kind of flame arrow into row. Yeah,
Speaker 2: in case everything is like perfectly cooked. And then to
Speaker 2: slice all this up to perfection. What better job could
Speaker 2: there be for the rapscallion Jack Dukine, who listen, this.
Speaker 1: Guy loves a free meal.
Speaker 2: He probably doesn't have money, but he does have Ronan's sword,
Speaker 2: which listen, hopefully has been cleaned thoroughly to get all
Speaker 2: the human blood off of it.
Speaker 1: Let's hope that happened.
Speaker 2: And then after that has happened, we're going to have
Speaker 2: the swordsman get in there and slice up the turkey
Speaker 2: to perfection so that everybody can have the perfectly sliced
Speaker 2: piece of turkey meat for their plate.
Speaker 1: Folks. That's it for the endgame. Let us know what
Speaker 1: you think. Who won.
Speaker 2: Who would you select from the first two episodes of
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Speaker 2: Produced by Chris Lord and Saul Rubin. The show is
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Speaker 2: to Brian Vasquez for our theme see you Later. There
Speaker 2: is no Turkey, There is only them. Every Loki line
Speaker 2: read from Borrows. The event is the fucking greatest thing
Speaker 2: that has ever happened.
Speaker 5: The inter lines he has with like I burdened with
Speaker 5: the glorious purpose. One of the coldest lines of the.
Speaker 2: When when Natasha is interrogating him like unbeknownt interrogating, then
Speaker 2: he goes.
Speaker 1: Ooh, it burns you.
Speaker 4: Having so much fun.
Speaker 1: He really is just like beating it up.