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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob Lamb.

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Speaker 3: And I am Joe McCormick. And today on Weird House Cinema,

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Speaker 3: I am so excited because we're going to be talking

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Speaker 3: about the nineteen ninety one sci fi fantasy action film

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Speaker 3: Highlander two The Quickening, starring Christoph Lambert, Sean Connery, Virginia Madsen,

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Speaker 3: and Michael Ironside. This is the weird, dank, detested sequel

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Speaker 3: to the original Highlander from nineteen eighty six, and I

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Speaker 3: have butterflies in my stomach. I'm so happy to talk

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Speaker 3: about this today.

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Speaker 2: Now, some of our longtime listeners might say, WHOAOA, WHOA.

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Speaker 2: Didn't you guys already cover Highlander two? We have not

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Speaker 2: covered it for Weird House Cinema. We did a pre

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Speaker 2: Weird House Cinema Stuff to Blow Your Mind episode back

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Speaker 2: when we really had to shown a weird movie into

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Speaker 2: a core episode if we really had it in our

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Speaker 2: hearts to do so. But we did not get to

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Speaker 2: give it the Weird House treatment.

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Speaker 3: I think we ended up talking about some of the

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Speaker 3: science of proposed geoengineering projects and stuff like that, which

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Speaker 3: is a plot point in the film.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we'll probably do less of that in this

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Speaker 2: and focus more on everything else. But fortunately Highlander two

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Speaker 2: is a film with plenty of everything else.

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Speaker 3: Now, a little note at the top here, this episode

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Speaker 3: of Weird House Cinema may well go to two parts.

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Speaker 3: We don't usually do that on Weird House. We did

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Speaker 3: recently do it when we talked about David Lynch's Dune,

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Speaker 3: and we promised it would not become a regular thing.

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Speaker 3: But David Lynch's Dune seemed deservingly massive, and while we

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Speaker 3: still don't plan on making it a regular thing to

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Speaker 3: split weird House movies into multiple episodes, Highlander two just

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Speaker 3: kind of seemed on par with Dune, you know, equally majestic,

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Speaker 3: equally epic, equally deserving. So, while this is still not

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Speaker 3: what we're usual going to do on the show, we're

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Speaker 3: gonna split today's episode into part one and part two

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Speaker 3: as well. It'll make more sense once we start talking.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So.

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Speaker 3: Highlander two is a movie that I have seen I

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Speaker 3: don't know how many times, at least a dozen times,

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Speaker 3: maybe two dozen times, if I'm honest, many many times,

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Speaker 3: going back to my high school years. This was a

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Speaker 3: favorite movie of mine to watch with my friends. When

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Speaker 3: made a new friend. It's like, let's watch Highlander two. So,

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Speaker 3: despite the fact that this movie is infamous for its

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Speaker 3: awfulness and hated by most Highlander fans, this is a

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Speaker 3: movie I positively adore, and I really mean that. As

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Speaker 3: Roger Ebert said in his review, Highlander two is a

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Speaker 3: movie quote almost awesome in its badness. This is not

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Speaker 3: just like your run of the mill bad movie. Bad

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Speaker 3: movies can be dull, they can be off putting, they

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Speaker 3: can be boring or distasteful. In Highlander two, it's like

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Speaker 3: all great badness. The badness itself takes on characteristics that

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Speaker 3: we really associate with greatness and specifically great storytelling. The

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Speaker 3: badness of Highlander two is zesty, invigorating, hilarious, thought provoking,

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Speaker 3: and emotionally powerful. This movie is completely malfunctioning in ways

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Speaker 3: that make me want to live my life to the fullest.

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Speaker 3: And so in that way, I think the closest thing

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Speaker 3: the best films of ed Wood. It's sort of like

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Speaker 3: Plan nine from Outer Space. It's so dumb it becomes brilliant.

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Speaker 3: It's so ugly it becomes beautiful, and every time I

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Speaker 3: I love Highlander two.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I don't disagree with the positive spin on

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Speaker 2: it's especially in some of its best sayes, it's far

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, certainly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But but it is it is still a train

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Speaker 2: wreck of a film. Not only is it a train wreck,

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Speaker 3: That's right. And then it has it has one of

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Speaker 3: the plot. So holand or two is the story of

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Speaker 3: It is the story of people whose lives are governed

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Speaker 3: It's like, what are we going to find out next?

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Speaker 3: So this is going to preserve our long running tradition

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Speaker 3: but in this case, to really understand Highlander two, to

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Speaker 3: to start with a basic rundown on the original Highlander,

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll try and keep it reasonably short, because we

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Speaker 2: could easily do a whole weird Outs episode on nineteen

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Speaker 2: we still might do it. Someday, because ultimately Highlander is

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Speaker 2: a weirder and more ridiculous film than I think a

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Speaker 2: Er two. Like you forget the like three dozen backflips

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Speaker 2: You forget that it opens up in the bowels of

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Speaker 3: The first fight is like guys who are trying to

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Speaker 2: Is it's Madison Square Garden, and it's like the fabulous

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Speaker 3: And and they're trying to chop at each other, and

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Speaker 2: So it's a film that's full of action movie machismo.

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Speaker 2: But it also boath just a deliriously fun queen soundtrack,

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Speaker 2: and I think is perhaps understudied as a film potentially

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Speaker 2: I keep looking around for examples of like Center must

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's not your destiny to rite.

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Speaker 2: I'm not the person to write it, but I would

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Speaker 2: love to read someone's take on it. But anyway. Highlander

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Speaker 2: Connor MacLeod who just lives seemingly ordinary life until he

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Speaker 2: initiates him into the secret knowledge of the game. Here

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Speaker 2: And so this game of immortals is going to continue

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Speaker 3: Okay, So this is all information that Connor does not have.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't know about any of this. He's explicitly being

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Speaker 2: Yes, he's being initiated into the world of immortals by Ramirez,

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Speaker 3: The Kurgin played by Clancy Brown, by.

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Speaker 2: The way, yes, yes, so fabulously over the top like snarling,

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Speaker 2: So that's part of the prize. But more essentially, he

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Speaker 3: Highlander one a brilliant summary, Rob, I think that gets

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Speaker 2: Only? I guess in the very beginning, there's this idea

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Speaker 2: But it's also interesting to think about how, like long

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Speaker 3: rocket boots? There's nothing sci fi in it.

432
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: I vaguely remember being kind of maybe not disappointed, but

433
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 2: just kind of like, oh, I really thought there was

434
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: gonna be future stuff in this, and there's not. But

435
00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 2: it was still still amazing, and for various reasons, I think,

436
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: possibly because I didn't know it at the time, but

437
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: I had already been introduced to the work of this

438
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: director due to his work in music videos.

439
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 3: Oh he's got some really good music videos in the

440
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 3: wizard Bag here doesn't he but to come back to

441
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 3: the leap from Highlander one to Highlander two again for

442
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 3: reasons related to difficulties with the production and all that,

443
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 3: and problems with the script. Yes, the movie is ridiculous

444
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 3: and it is silly, but I respect the choices. I

445
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 3: respect them going in a different direction with it. I

446
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 3: like the switch to sci fi. I think that's a

447
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 3: great idea, and it could have worked. It could have

448
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: been not just like a great bad movie. It could

449
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 3: have been a great good movie. You know, I realized

450
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 3: a little bit different. And so there's actually a quote

451
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 3: I came across that was in that video Watchdog article

452
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 3: from Russell Mulkahy, the director, and he's talking about these movies,

453
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 3: and he says, quote, all I can remember about the

454
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 3: original Highlander is lots of guys in various eras bashing

455
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 3: swords about That worked the first time, but Highlander two

456
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 3: has to transcend that with more originality and the ability

457
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 3: to turn unknown corners. And you know what, that is

458
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: exactly what we got. There is more originality, It definitely

459
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 3: turns unknown corners and respect for trying.

460
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the only way to do a sequel

461
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: to a movie that wrapped everything up, you know, And

462
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: I think it really isn't that all an unexpected direction

463
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 2: to go in, because I want to point to two things.

464
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: First of all, again, the first movie ends with our

465
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 2: man becoming prince of the Earth with psychic powers, and

466
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 2: you know he's going to start bringing people together. He's

467
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 2: like a messiah figure. And the Queen song, and I

468
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 2: do believe that all of the Queen songs on the

469
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 2: soundtrack for Highland or are canon and ARKEI to understanding

470
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: the film, we have those lyrics here. We are born

471
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: to be kings, We're the princes of the universe. So

472
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 2: Highlander two is the natural extrapolation of those lyrics. Well said,

473
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: all right, do you have an l vator pitch? Is

474
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: an elevator pitch even necessary? At this point?

475
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 3: I got one for you. Okay. So the formerly immortal

476
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 3: head chopper Connor McLeod is now mortal because he has

477
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 3: chopped all the other immortals and now he is old.

478
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 3: An ancient enemy from another planet sends more immortals to Earth,

479
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 3: thus making Connor young and strapping again. For some reason,

480
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 3: Connor must fight this ancient enemy, who, for some reason

481
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: also comes to Earth himself. He must also destroy a

482
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 3: geoengineering project that he invented decades before because it sucks

483
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 3: and is no longer necessary. Also, various people travel across

484
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 3: space and time and come back from the dead and

485
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 3: experience the year twenty twenty four? Can I get that

486
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 3: in a robot voice?

487
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 2: The year twenty twenty four? All right, let's go ahead

488
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: and have a taste of that original theatrical trailer for

489
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: Highlander two, The Quickening.

490
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 5: Greeting Chilada, Let's have some fun.

491
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 4: In all, there's centuries on Earth. Nothing could have prepared

492
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 4: them for the Quickening. Christopher Lambert, Sean Connery, Highlander two,

493
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 4: The Quickening.

494
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: All right, Now, normally this is where we tell you

495
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 2: exactly where to go see it, but as we've already discussed,

496
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 2: it's it's a bit difficult. In terms of the original

497
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: theatrical We had to depend on YouTube for it, and

498
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: I think in the past we had to depend on

499
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: a VHS tape. I know that's how I originally saw it.

500
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 3: I've got the VHS tape of Islander too, the Quickening,

501
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 3: so I have the means to view the correct cut myself.

502
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 3: If I had a functioning VCR right now.

503
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: And there are tons of There are various threads online

504
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: with people discussing the different cuts where to find them.

505
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 2: I'm to understand that the French DVD is mostly the

506
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 2: z Ice cut. There was also recently some excitement over

507
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: the fact that a British Amazon Prime stream of the

508
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 2: film appeared to be and I'm not certain on this

509
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 2: either the z Ice cut, the theatrical cut, or something close

510
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 2: to it fitting the UK audience.

511
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 3: I think it is so looking at that you can

512
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 3: only judge by like the run times, unless you're actually

513
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 3: going to watch the whole thing. But I think that

514
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 3: version on Amazon was the British cut, which is different

515
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 3: than what we're calling the Ice cut, but does also

516
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 3: have Zeis. Don't take out Zeis. That's the renegade cut

517
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 3: that does that, But the British cut adds in the

518
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: x it re edits. The film, adds in the extra

519
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 3: stuff about Connor's wife dying in the past, adds in

520
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: a few other character moments, and has the so called

521
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 3: fairy tale ending where Connor MacLeod and Virginia Madsen fly

522
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 3: away into space and go to the planet Zeist.

523
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: There are also plenty of fan edits with people putting

524
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: together recutting the film to create like the ultimate Zeist

525
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: cut and so forth. I saw one person who apparently

526
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: had put together a queen cut where and kudos to

527
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: this individual, because I very much agree there is not

528
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: enough queen music in this movie, and this person felt

529
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: the same, so they added queen music to it. So

530
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff like that. I can't speak

531
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: to its actual quality because I haven't looked at it.

532
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 2: In My advice would be kind of weird on this

533
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,719
Speaker 2: because not everyone needs to see this movie more than

534
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: once to scratch that itch, but you would all think

535
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: you might need to, or you have any nostalgia for

536
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: the film. I would recommend like rewatching the theatrical cut

537
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: in whatever quality you can get, and it's not going

538
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 2: to be great, and then potentially grab that renegade cut

539
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: to rewatch your favorite scenes or particular scenes in a

540
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 2: superior picture quality, because as we'll discuss, like, there are

541
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: plenty of scenes in this film that look amazing. There's

542
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: some great sets, great costume, and great lighting, and it

543
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,959
Speaker 2: is a shame that we can't watch that theatrical cut

544
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: with the best possible picture quality.

545
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 3: It's funny how some of the best looking stuff in

546
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: the movie is kind of incidental to the story, like

547
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 3: the opera scene where Connor goes and watches Wagner Is.

548
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 3: The sets on the set within the movie are amazing.

549
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 3: They look really cool, and the opera house is beautiful,

550
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 3: and there are some of like there are clearly lots

551
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 3: of indoor sets of streets that they created for Life

552
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 3: under the Shield where they're in a sound stage where

553
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 3: they were shooting in Argentina, and there's like eats with

554
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 3: storefronts and all that that are. You could argue about

555
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: how effective they are as sets like that. They're they

556
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 3: look they're very dimly lit, so you don't see a

557
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 3: lot of detail, but they do create I think the

558
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 3: right kind of moody atmosphere that the movie was going for.

559
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: There are other sets that feel a little more confusing

560
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,479
Speaker 3: because it's like you'll be on the planet Zeist, but

561
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 3: you appear to be in like an office.

562
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, or that's there's that dungeon scene where General

563
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: Katana strangles.

564
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 3: An eel and that's what I was thinking of.

565
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh was that in an office?

566
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: I don't know what that room is.

567
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: Whatever it was, it felt suitably alien and that's one

568
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 2: that I had to go back and watch again on

569
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: the renegade cut just to see all those like all

570
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: that glorious glistening, you know, blackness in a superior picture quality.

571
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 3: Oh, in all the executives' offices in the Shield Corporation buildings. Yes,

572
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 3: it'd be way too dark to read in this room.

573
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 3: I don't know why anybody would work in there, Like

574
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: just super dark rooms with like the only light source

575
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: being a window through which moonlight is shining and there

576
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 3: are giant fan blades cutting in front of it constantly,

577
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: so it's just like an intermittent light source.

578
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Russell McKay likes his fan blades. There's more than

579
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 2: There are at least two major scenes in this that

580
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: have big, big rotating fan blades. All right, well, since

581
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: we're already talking about him, Yeah, let's get into the

582
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: connections here, starting with the director. Russell McKay born nineteen

583
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: fifty three, Australian director who initially made his name directing

584
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: some of the and most and I'm not over I'm

585
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: not exaggerating here, some of the most iconic music videos

586
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: of the nineteen eighties, like if you were watching MTV

587
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: and then later VH one. During the eighties and nineties,

588
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: you saw so much of this band's work. I'm talking

589
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 2: some of the weirdest, most stylish examples of music video artistry,

590
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: such as Duran Durand's Wild Boys amazing track, amazing video.

591
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:07,479
Speaker 2: This is the one that has post apocalyptic windmills, you know,

592
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: Simon Labon strapped to one of them, and like strange

593
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: tribes of lads running around and android heads and so forth.

594
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 3: Almost seems an inspiration for the war Boys in Mad

595
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: Max Fury Road.

596
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

597
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, similar vibes, and there are a number of direct

598
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: connections between Wild Boys and Hilander two. Another big one,

599
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: super weird, super stylish Bonnie Tyler's Total Eclipse of the Heart.

600
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: I defy you to follow the plot of that music video,

601
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: but it's so gorgeous to watch.

602
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 3: You might not understand it, but you will feel it.

603
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't forget nineteen seventy nine's video Killed the Radio Star,

604
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 2: the first music video ever played on MTV. And I

605
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 2: didn't realize this until I was just researching it yesterday,

606
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: But Hans Zimmer is in that music video. He's playing

607
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: the keyboard. Huh yeah, yeah, Ida Hans Zimmer of of

608
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: Doune Fame and so many other films. So Russell McKay plenty,

609
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,959
Speaker 2: I'm not even I'm barely scratching the surface on all

610
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 2: the artists that he worked with, some of the biggest

611
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: music artists of the day. His first film, however, was

612
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: the nineteen eighty four Australian killer pig movie Razorback.

613
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 3: I've seen this one. Did you watch this rope?

614
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: I have not seen Razorback.

615
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 3: Razorback. I sort of hesitate to recommend it just because

616
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 3: it is texturally gross, Like it's a cross between Jaws,

617
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 3: but with a pig instead of a shark, and an

618
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: Australian version of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. So you're dealing

619
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,479
Speaker 3: with just like disgusting sort of outback hillbillies who work

620
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 3: in a dog food factory, and so there's like gross

621
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 3: gore stuff at the dog food factory, you know that

622
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 3: TCM kind of kind of slop. But also I remember

623
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 3: some elements of the movie, apart from just the general grossness,

624
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 3: being really compellingly funny.

625
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 2: I mean, there is often a sense of humor sprinkled

626
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: in there somewhere.

627
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all right.

628
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 2: So anyway, he followed up razorback with Highlander in eighty six,

629
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: and he's continuing to do like high end music videos

630
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 2: the whole time, and then follows Highlander up in nineteen

631
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: ninety one with its sequel Highlander two. Now afterwards, Okay

632
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 2: continued to direct TV in film through pretty much today.

633
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: His most recent credit was twenty twenty three's teen Wolf,

634
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: the movie spinning off from the TV series Teen Wolf

635
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 2: that he directed forty episodes of. So he's remained highly

636
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 2: prolific and I've read no indication that he's done. Other

637
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: credits of note include nineteen ninety four as the Shadow.

638
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 3: Oh is that the one with Alec Baldwin as the

639
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 3: Shadow YEP?

640
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 2: That's it, which I haven't seen since the since it

641
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 2: came out, I remember it being I remember finding it enthralling,

642
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: but also kind of lackluster in some respects. So I

643
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 2: don't know, I haven't revisited it. He did four episodes

644
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 2: of Tales from the Crypt, including the excellent People Who

645
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: Live in Brass Versus, starring Bill Paxton, Brad Dorif, and

646
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: Michael Lerner. You know, it's it's pretty much your standard

647
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 2: Tales from the Crypt in many ways, you know, awful

648
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: things happen to awful people. But with a cast like

649
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: that and with a solid director, you're good to go.

650
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: He also did the nineteen ninety nine seven inspired This

651
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: is the Movie seven, often with the numeral seven in

652
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 2: the middle, so I guess you could technically pronounce it

653
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 2: seven seven inspired Resurrection. This starred Christoph Limbert and also

654
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 2: featured David Cronenberg in a small role.

655
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 3: I always love it when he shows up in the cast.

656
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 4: Yeah.

657
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a kind of again very seventy of

658
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 2: kind of a flick, you know, had that kind of grungey, grimey,

659
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: semi sort of ninety sleazy quality to it about a

660
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: serial murder trying to build a body for the second

661
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 2: coming of Christ.

662
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, cool, Yeah, it sounds about right for a

663
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 3: movie inspired by seven then.

664
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, and then you know. He also did two

665
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 2: thousand and seven's Resident Evil Extinction, which I haven't watched

666
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 2: in full. I think I started watching at one point

667
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: and didn't finish it, but I will say that it

668
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 2: is easily the most visually appealing of the Resident Evil films.

669
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 3: I tried one or two of the Resident Evil movies

670
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 3: and I never could get into them. I've liked a

671
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 3: couple of the games, though, I feel like the games

672
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 3: really feel like they would adapt well into movies and

673
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 3: it just doesn't translate for some reason.

674
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I really enjoyed the most recent Resident Evil game.

675
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 3: Now, this is in no way a knock on Russell

676
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 3: Mulkahee at all, but in thinking about his relationship to

677
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 3: the creative material here, it feels significant and correct to

678
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 3: me that he did not, like write the script for

679
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 3: Highlander or Highlander two. This is not like his story,

680
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: his narrative, passion project that he's bringing to the screen.

681
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 3: He is a professional director and he's realizing a story

682
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 3: that came from somewhere else. Does that feel right to you?

683
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 4: Yeah?

684
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe so. I mean it varies from director

685
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 2: to director, I mean exactly how much they are ultimately

686
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 2: impacting or influencing the shape of the story and characterizations

687
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: on screen. But yeah, he does not have a writing

688
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: credit on this film or the first film, no official

689
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: writing credit anyway.

690
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 3: Though clearly does have creative influence and has some sense

691
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 3: of ownership over the creative direction. Because again, as we

692
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 3: saw on that quote he said earlier like he felt

693
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 3: like Highlander two had to go in a different direction,

694
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 3: had to turn those unknown corners.

695
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's talk about the folks who are credited

696
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: on Highlander two and its kind of telling. So, first

697
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: of all, we have a character credit for Gregory Widen

698
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: born nineteen fifty eight. This is the American screenwriter who

699
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: wrote the screenplay for the original Highlander, initially as a

700
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: class assignment in the writing program at UCLA. So basically

701
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: the idea is, you know, he wrote it for class,

702
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 2: his instructors and other folks encouraged him on the project

703
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 2: and said, hey, you should fix us up a bet

704
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: and start submitting it places, and so eventually it salve

705
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 2: the light of day with some other writers involved as Highlander.

706
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 2: Subsequent credits included nineteen ninety one's Backdraft, nineteen ninety five's

707
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: The Prophecy, This is the Angel movie with Christopher Walkin

708
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: in it, which I'm very tempted to revisit on Weird House.

709
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: And yeah, he also directed that one, and he also

710
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: wrote twenty seventeen's Other Life.

711
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 3: You know, thinking about him writing both Highlander and The Prophecy,

712
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: it seems that he's got an attraction to the idea

713
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 3: of these outsider beings who have special powers and knowledge

714
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 3: but sort of are limited in their interactions with the

715
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: human world and must sort of wander among us. And

716
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, exploring themes of alienation in some way,

717
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 3: people living among us with like special abilities and special

718
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 3: destiny but not really being able to be a part

719
00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 3: of us.

720
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so, And there are a number of things

721
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: you can compare on the Prophecy films and the Highlander franchise,

722
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 2: you know, right down to if I remember correctly, you

723
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 2: have to kill the angels in a special way. They

724
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: only dive to, like rip their heart out or something.

725
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 2: It's been a while, could have that wrong.

726
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I like how he got to

727
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 3: do a movie with both Christoph Lambert and Christoph Walcom.

728
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 2: Now the story credit. One of the story credits here

729
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: on Highlander two goes to Brian Clemens, who lived nineteen

730
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 2: thirty one through twenty fifteen. British screenwriter and producer with

731
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 2: credits going back to the late nineteen fifties. He did

732
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 2: a lot of great TV work, including thirty two episodes

733
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: of The Avengers. He also worked on a number of

734
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 2: nineteen seventies horror films, including Robert Foists and Soon the

735
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: Darkness in nineteen seventy see No Evil and the sex

736
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: Flipping Doctor Jekyl and Sister Hide. Both of these last

737
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 2: two were seventy one. He also worked on seventy threes,

738
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 2: The Golden Voyage of Sindbad in nineteen seventy four's Captain

739
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: Cronos Vampire Hunter. We can also go ahead and throw

740
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 2: in Walt Disney's nineteen eighty chiller Watcher in the Woods.

741
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 2: So a very established name here, at least in TV

742
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: and B cinema of the sixties and seventies.

743
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, a lot of good titles in there.

744
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: Man.

745
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 3: The Golden Voyage of Sinbad is fun.

746
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, absolutely, that's an all timer.

747
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 3: That's got some really fantastic ray Harry Housen stop motion

748
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 3: monsters in it.

749
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 2: All right. We also have William N. Panzer credited with

750
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: a story credit. He is also one of the producers,

751
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 2: So yes, we have a producer in the story credits here,

752
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: which is sometimes something to give you pause. I'm not

753
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 2: saying all producers that have story credits or writing credits

754
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: are overreaching, but I think at the very least you

755
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: have to wonder if that is the case when you

756
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 2: encounter it and This is certainly a film where there

757
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 2: are stories about producers becoming involved and so forth in

758
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 2: troubled production.

759
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you want to know more about the troubled production,

760
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 3: there's plenty you can read online about that. But famously

761
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 3: it was shot in our Gentina, I think for financial reasons,

762
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 3: and there was some various changing of hands of creative

763
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: control over the movie and what official what cut was

764
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: eventually released.

765
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 2: So Panzer I lived nineteen forty two through two thousand

766
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 2: and seven. He was mostly a producer with hands and

767
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: everything Highlander, so like, he was definitely one of the

768
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: helmsmen of the Highlander franchise, and he has story credits

769
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 2: on the third film and the fourth film. In addition,

770
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: his only other writing credit is for nineteen seventy nine Steel,

771
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: which he also produced. And then finally on the writing

772
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: side of things, we have Peter bell Wood on the screenplay.

773
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: Bellwood also worked on the screenplay for Highlander, having previously

774
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: written on nineteen eighty's Phobia in nineteen eighty one's Saint Helen's.

775
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 3: Now, I think it's time we get into the cast

776
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 3: because there are some wonderfully charming actors in this movie,

777
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 3: even if they don't always seem like they really understand

778
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 3: what's supposed to be going on in the scene or not.

779
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 3: But right at the top of the cast list here

780
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 3: Highlander two as the same star as the original Highlander,

781
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 3: which is Christoph Lambert as I've been calling him. That

782
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 3: is the sort of the French pronunciation of his name.

783
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 3: But it's okay if you call him Christopher Lambert. He

784
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,479
Speaker 3: said that in interviews he doesn't mind the American pronunciation either.

785
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's how I always thought it was

786
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 2: pronouncing I was a kid. It's like a Christopher Lambert's

787
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: great want to see more Christopher Lambert films.

788
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sort of half joking when I call

789
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 3: him Christoff Lambert, even though I guess that is what

790
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 3: they call him at home.

791
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. So born nineteen fifty seven, actually us born technically

792
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 2: a French actor seen here playing a Scottish man whose

793
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: credits in French cinema go back to nineteen seventy nine,

794
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 2: but his first big international break came with the Academy

795
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: Award winning nineteen eighty four Tarzan movie Gray Stoke, the

796
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: Legend of Tarzan, Lord of the Apes. This, of course,

797
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 2: we previously mentioned this in our Dragon Slayer episode because

798
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: it co starred Sir Ralph Richardson, among other several among

799
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: several other.

800
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 3: Big names, Ian Holmes in that too.

801
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's got a great cast. I've never seen it,

802
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 2: but it was highly thought of, at least at the time.

803
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: This is one of those caught parts of on TV

804
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 3: back in the day.

805
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: But it was apparently this role as Tarzan, you know,

806
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 2: his unique look and I think ultimately his just natural

807
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 2: ability to play this sort of outsider character, like a

808
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: charming like it's weird that he hasn't played a vampire,

809
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 2: right because all these things we're talking about with Christoph Lambert,

810
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: these are the qualities of casting a great vampire as well,

811
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: like slightly aloof, a little bit weird, but also very

812
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: very handsome and charming and charismatic.

813
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 3: There's a very strange duality to Limbert and the way

814
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 3: he specifically in the way he plays the Connor McCloud role,

815
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 3: which is that he alternates between being very kind of

816
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 3: sad and do wide having this kind of you know, tearful,

817
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 3: herbivorous sort of demeanor, shifting out of that into a

818
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 3: a twinkle of the eye, wise cracking gunna guy who

819
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 3: just reacts to everything with a joke, saying like something

820
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 3: like that, Oh.

821
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, his little laugh is wonderful, creepy, almost Peter Laurie

822
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 2: esque laugh. Yes, I love it, you get it in

823
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 2: most of his roles. And I think it's kind of

824
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 2: key to like the energy of Lambert, because I feel

825
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 2: like everything he's in he feels at least slightly miscast,

826
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: in part because he, like his co star here, is

827
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: not exactly known for his chameleon li likeability to take

828
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: on different accents and nationalities, and his performances. You know,

829
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: he's always Christoph Lambert, always a bit weird, always feels

830
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 2: a bit like an odd character actor who just somehow

831
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: came out a little too handsome to play anything, but

832
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 2: leads I like that, Yes, yeah, And like I said,

833
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: I see this energy in most of the films that

834
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: come to mind, like just to name a few. Here,

835
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty seven, The Sicilian, he plays an Italian

836
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: mobster perfect. In nineteen ninety two's Night Moves that's spelled

837
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 2: like night Like an Armor, he plays a womanizing I

838
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 2: think American chess master Oki Doki nineteen ninety five's Mortal

839
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 2: Kombat he plays a fictionalized, highly fictionalized Japanese thunder god.

840
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 3: Wait, is he supposed to be a Japanese thunder god?

841
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 3: He plays Raydon right? Is that rights in origin?

842
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: Rayden is loosely related to an actual thunder deity in

843
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: Japanese mythology. But I didn't know that heavy emphasis on

844
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: the looseley here because we're talking about Mortal Kombat.

845
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: I just assumed invented for the Mortal Kombat mythoughs. So, yeah,

846
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 3: a resident of outworld or maybe beyond out world.

847
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: Oh, he's a god of Earth.

848
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's an Earth guy. Okay, I apologize, but he uh,

849
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 3: he's so Mortal Kombat. The nineteen nineties Mortal Kombat is

850
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 3: also really funny to go back and watch. I think

851
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 3: maybe we could do that on Weird House one day.

852
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: But Lambert and it is just perfect. He's like a

853
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 3: he's got an attitude, you know, he's got that nineties

854
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 3: movie attitude. So like the bad guy comes and does

855
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 3: something and he suddenly the camera cuts to him sitting

856
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 3: there and he wags a finger and little like lightning

857
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 3: bolts come out of it and he goes, heck, I don't.

858
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 2: Think so, let's see nineteen ninety nine's Beowolf as some

859
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: sort of a futuristic Beowolf, a film that's a movie.

860
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: I can never make it through this one because the

861
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 2: sort of like the futuristic, grungy aspect of it, like

862
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: some sort of like futuristic medieval sci fi that always

863
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: draws me in. And then I get to the part

864
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: with the CGI and it's just like truly terrible CGI.

865
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 3: It's that it's the worst of that, like nineteen ninety

866
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 3: nine CGI. It's really bad. The Grendel monster, I recall,

867
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 3: looks terrible. The Grendel's Yeah, it's it's it's very dark

868
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 3: and confusing, and nothing much happens in it from what

869
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 3: I recall. But it's been a long time.

870
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, box art is promising, but it does not meet expectations.

871
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: See in two thousand and one's Druids he plays a

872
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: golf and he also plays the President of the United

873
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 2: States in twenty thirteen's action Nosferatu spy movie Bloodshot. This

874
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 2: one also has Brad dorifin it. I think we've looked

875
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 2: at this one before but are not brave enough to

876
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 2: actually check it out.

877
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 3: Doesn't he play? Does he play like a film director?

878
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 3: Or something in Hail Caesar.

879
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 2: He does, Yeah, I mean there's some other yeah credits

880
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 2: of Note twenty sixteen's Hail Caesar Cohen Brothers film. There's

881
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: a two part sci fi franchise, Fortress that a lot

882
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 2: of people like. Ninety two was the originally NATed A

883
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: two thousand sequel, and then, of course, as we mentioned earlier,

884
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 2: he's in Resurrection playing the cop in this seven esque film.

885
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 3: I gotta see some more of these B movie outings

886
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 3: by Lambert, so I let's see. I don't know if

887
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 3: I could try to watch the Beowulf again. Druids is

888
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 3: more of like a historical drama.

889
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't, And I don't have a good read

890
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: on that one. If it's at all fun or indeed great,

891
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: I just don't know much about it. And Bloodshot, ooh,

892
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just not. I don't know if

893
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 2: I'm it's got to be a special. We have not

894
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 2: watched a film from the twenty teams the Weird House,

895
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: and I think there are reasons for that. I don't

896
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 2: think Bloodshot is going to be our first selection from

897
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: that decade.

898
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 3: Okay, well, anyway, My short review on Lambert in Highlander

899
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 3: two is he has some surprisingly poignant moments of acting

900
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 3: that don't really fit in with how hilarious the rest

901
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 3: of the movie is like, But there are moments where

902
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 3: you really get that dough eyed sadness coming through. You

903
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 3: feel for him, You feel the pain of his immortality

904
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 3: and now the immortality being lost, that he's just sort

905
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 3: of decaying physically while being emotionally alone, and it really

906
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 3: is kind of sad. But also he does the wise

907
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 3: cracking attitude, raid and things, saying little like ridiculous one liners.

908
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 3: You can't believe the lines he says.

909
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 2: Oh, everybody, all the immortals in this film are just

910
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: here for a good time and just cutting up. Crazy.

911
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 2: General Katana has all sorts of laughs. The assassins, the

912
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 2: bird guys also are real cutups. Yeah, there's just there's

913
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 2: really too much of it.

914
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 3: Oh and of course, how lest we forget one of

915
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 3: the greatest of the wise crackers, Ramirez.

916
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 2: That's right, played by the great Sean Connery who lived

917
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: nineteen thirty through twenty twenty, legendary Scottish actor. Obviously, there's

918
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: a lot to discuss with Sean Connery's career, very long career.

919
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: You know, one of one of the most famous actors

920
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: of his generation. But I will say there was an

921
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 2: old Mystery Science Theater three thousand sketch that had Mike

922
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 2: and the Bots plot the careers of Sean Connery and

923
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 2: his brother Neil Connery in response to the nineteen sixty

924
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 2: seven Italian bond ripoff ok Connery aka Operation Kid Brother

925
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: that they were watching on the show. So they have

926
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: like the line grafts of the ups and downs of

927
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 2: their careers. And the big gag was that Highlander two

928
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 2: is the only point at which Shawn's career trajectory dips

929
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: below Nils. And I think you know, I was looking

930
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 2: at Sean Connery's filmography in full here and you can

931
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: kind of look at it in terms of pre and

932
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 2: post Highlander two. Though to be fair, it's a very

933
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 2: long career with various shifts and changes.

934
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 3: I have seen him in movies that I enjoy far,

935
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 3: far less than I enjoy Highlander two. He's the like

936
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 3: get second Billing is the voice of the dragon in

937
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 3: Dragonhart to the movie that I was getting confused with

938
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 3: Dragon Slayer when we were doing Dragon Slayer on the show.

939
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 3: I saw that in the theater as a kid, I mean,

940
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 3: I haven't seen it recently, but I recall that being

941
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 3: just a mess and Highlander two is so much a

942
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 3: much better use of your time than watching Dragonheart.

943
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Dragonhart was a ninety six film that was post

944
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: Highlander two, And indeed, you look at some of the

945
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: other post Highlander two films and then include, well, there

946
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: was Robin Hood Prince with Thieves the same year. He

947
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 2: has an uncredited cameo in that. But then it's stuff

948
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 2: like ninety two's Medicine Man, ninety three's Rising Sun, his

949
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: First Night, The Rock in ninety six, The Avengers in

950
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 2: ninety nine, and I'm sorry, The Avengers in ninety eight,

951
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 2: and Trapman in ninety nine, Finding Forrester in two thousand

952
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 2: and then finally two thousand and threes, The Leave Extraordinary, gentlemen,

953
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 2: And we don't have to talk about twenty twelve, Sir Billy,

954
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: that was his final vocal performance.

955
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that nineties to early two thousands Connery arc is

956
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 3: a little rough.

957
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, So not to say that there weren't entertaining or

958
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 2: even great films. I mean, Finding Forrester got a lot

959
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 2: of great reviews at the time, but does anyone The

960
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 2: Rock is really fun The Rock is fun. But does

961
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 2: anyone consider these great Connery films. I don't know that

962
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 2: they do. Meanwhile, just looking at his pre Highlander two films,

963
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 2: going back no further than nineteen eighty there's a lot

964
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 2: of great stuff in there. There's nineteen eighty one's Outland,

965
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 2: the sci fi western, There's Time Bandits from the same year.

966
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: There's eighty seven's The Untouchables, eighty nine's Indiana Jenes and

967
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: The Last Crusade nineteen nineties. The Hunt for Rock Red

968
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: October in nineteen eighty six is alone pretty impressive because

969
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: you have Connery playing both the dashing mentor Ramires, who

970
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 2: I think, if I'm using the term correctly, is like

971
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 2: in pure Zaddy mode in Highlander one, so you have

972
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 2: you have that role as a mentor. But then at

973
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 2: the same year he's playing Sir William of Baskerville in

974
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 2: the Name of the Rose, and I think these are

975
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 2: both peak you know, and he also rather different performances

976
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: from Sean Connery.

977
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 3: It is hard to believe he made Highland or two

978
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 3: the year after he made The Hunt for Red October.

979
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I haven't seen The Hunt for October in

980
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 2: a while, but I have a friend who just very

981
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 2: recently was just insisting that it is. It's really really good,

982
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 2: and you know.

983
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 3: It's like the military thriller is not really my genre

984
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 3: of choice, but I got to give it credit, like

985
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 3: as an example of that genre. I think it's top notch.

986
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, Well, anyway, I think Sean Connery may come

987
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 2: up again on Weird House Cinema at some point in

988
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 2: the future. So we're gonna leave the rest of his

989
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 2: filmography for later, but suffice to say that his pre

990
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty filmography is perhaps best known for his defining

991
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 2: performances as James Bond, but even then there's still a

992
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 2: lot of weirder and more daring work sprinkled throughout that

993
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: time period. You know, like he was playing Bond, but

994
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 2: he was also at times trying some really weird things.

995
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 2: Not everything worked. There's some strange choices in there as well.

996
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 2: Going through the rest of the cast here of note,

997
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 2: Virginia Madsen is in it playing Louise Marcus. She's our

998
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 2: environmental terrorist slash love interest for Connor. Born nineteen sixty one.

999
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 2: We recently talked about her because she is Princess Roulan

1000
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 2: from David Lynch's doune Oscar nominated actress for two thousand

1001
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: and five Sideways, whose credits also include nineteen ninety two

1002
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: S Candy Man, nineteen ninety five's The Prophecy to be

1003
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 2: Sure Not the Mutant Bear One, and in various TV

1004
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 2: projects as well.

1005
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 3: I think her relationship with Connor MacLeod in this movie

1006
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 3: is one of the most unearned romances in all of

1007
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 3: movie history. They literally just they don't know each other.

1008
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 3: They just meet and like get into a fight with

1009
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 3: some aliens who fly in from out of nowhere, and

1010
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 3: within moments they are kissing. It is unbelievable.

1011
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is ridiculous. So this is, as is often

1012
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 2: the case with films like this, not a great showcase

1013
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 2: for her talents. But she is as good as you

1014
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 2: might expect in this role.

1015
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Virginia Madison is a great actress, and she brings

1016
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 3: a levity to this role. And like there's even a

1017
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 3: part where she's quite literally just a scene where she

1018
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 3: is explaining back the premise of the movie to Christuff

1019
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 3: Lambert in his apartment and commenting on the fact that

1020
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 3: it doesn't make any sense. Yeah, and he just replies

1021
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 3: by quoting the name of a queen song that's mentioned

1022
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 3: for or five times in the movie. He's like, it's

1023
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 3: just kind of magic.

1024
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 2: It's a great song. It's a great song.

1025
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 3: H But yeah, So in a way, she's sort of

1026
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 3: like the regular the observer character who's like looking on

1027
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 3: this with the audience and being like, what what are

1028
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,399
Speaker 3: you saying? Here? They come here and now you're immortal again.

1029
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 3: But if you chop their heads off, you become mortal. Okay.

1030
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Without her everything makes even less sense because there's

1031
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: no one to explain it to. All Right, So when

1032
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 2: it comes to villains, how do you top Clancy Brown

1033
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 2: as the Kuragan for to shear over the top evilness?

1034
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 2: I would argue that you don't. But what you can

1035
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 2: do is cast Michael ironside and let him absolutely dial

1036
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 2: everything he does up to eleven.

1037
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 3: Rob I am offended. How dare you say eleven? He

1038
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 3: is at twenty six? There is not a single line

1039
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 3: he says in this movie where you don't see his teeth.

1040
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 3: He's just like and it's all like he's in full

1041
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:02,720
Speaker 3: clown mode.

1042
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1043
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 2: I've seen interview snippets from him where he was like, yeah,

1044
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 2: didn't like the script, nobody liked the script, but you know,

1045
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 2: I was going to make sure that I was the

1046
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 2: most memorable part of any scene I was in, you know,

1047
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 2: And you got to admire that, you know, someone who's like,

1048
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: they're not going to phone it in, they are going

1049
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 2: to make sure that they are just delivering it completely

1050
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: gift wrapped to you the full Michael Ironside experience. Now,

1051
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 2: we previously discussed Ironside in our episode on nineteen eighty

1052
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: one Scanners, in which he played the rogue scanner Darryl Revick,

1053
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 2: and that's the film that helped propel him into villain

1054
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 2: roles like this one, like Total Recall and so forth.

1055
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 2: I think he's, without a doubt, one of the best

1056
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 2: heavies of all time and certainly of this time period.

1057
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: Like this is the type of villain role that he

1058
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 2: could just absolutely inhabit.

1059
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 3: He is an all time movie villain. Got love Michael Ironside.

1060
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 3: Gotta love the menace he brings, and I love how

1061
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 3: in all of his movies from this period he plays

1062
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 3: a character whose name could be the name of a

1063
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 3: knife company. So he's always He's Richter, he's Katana, he's

1064
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 3: revoc like all the names that have like these hard

1065
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 3: angles in them and suggest cutting.

1066
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean even his actual name Ironside, Yeah, yeah,

1067
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 2: could be a knife company, but yeah, and certainly his

1068
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 2: performance is cut. He's always a treat in anything he's in.

1069
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 2: And there are a number of other iron Side films

1070
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 2: on the sort of waiting list for weird house cinema

1071
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: that we'll have to get to, all right. A couple

1072
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: of other actors worth mentioning in passing here at least.

1073
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 2: Alan Rich plays the character name in this is one

1074
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 2: of the scientists of the Shield Corporation m He lived

1075
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 2: nineteen twenty six through twenty twenty character actor, with credit

1076
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 2: stretching from nineteen fifty three till twenty fourteen. His roles

1077
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 2: include roles in such films as seventy three, Cerpico, ninety

1078
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 2: four's Disclosure, and Quiz Show. He also did a little

1079
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 2: I think mostly like some short film projects.

1080
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 3: He does a really unceremonious cinematic inst to death in

1081
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 3: this movie, where you know, he just delivers a final,

1082
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 3: bittersweet final line and this then goes uugh falls over. Okay,

1083
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 3: done with him?

1084
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 2: All right? Then we also have John C. McGinley in this,

1085
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 2: playing the character Blake, who's like, what the CEO of

1086
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 2: Shield Corp?

1087
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 3: I don't know what John C. McGinley is doing in

1088
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 3: this movie. This is one of the weirdest performances in it.

1089
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 3: It's not as like up to eleven or up to

1090
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 3: twenty six as Michael Ironside, but he's doing something strange.

1091
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. This is an American actor, perhaps best known to

1092
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 2: many for his long running role as what one of

1093
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 2: the doctors on the TV series Scrubs, But he was

1094
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 2: also in eighty six is Platoon, eighty seven's Wall Street,

1095
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 2: ninety one's Point Break, and he was actually in nineteen

1096
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 2: ninety five to seven. He was also in nineteen ninety

1097
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 2: six Is the Rock Wow. A number of connections here,

1098
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 2: so much crossover, Yeah, and nineteen ninety nine's Office Space.

1099
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 2: I would say he's definitely a guy who's great at

1100
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 2: playing a good suit. You know, when you need like

1101
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 2: that suit character, that management, slimy CEO type, this is

1102
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 2: your guy.

1103
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 3: He I mean, yeah, he generally is, though in this

1104
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 3: movie he's he's a little weirder than you would expect

1105
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 3: for that kind of character, and he like there are

1106
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 3: scenes where he's he's kind of hammered it up. You know,

1107
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 3: when General Katana walks into the board meeting, he's like, Oh,

1108
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 3: I've had enough of you.

1109
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's almost like they realize, like this

1110
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 2: is unbelievable, Like this, this straight up space barbarian has

1111
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 2: walked into your boardroom, and you're gonna pretend that you're

1112
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 2: still in charge. Like there is a comic energy to

1113
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 2: this that needs to be enhanced, not ignored, or at

1114
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 2: least that was my read on the situation.

1115
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 3: I think that's right. I think that's what he's going for.

1116
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 3: It just John C McGinley gives me the vibe. Whereas

1117
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 3: like Michael Ironside's playing the role pretty consistently that it's

1118
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 3: always cranked to like twenty six with dashes of clown.

1119
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 3: John C McGinley seems to be trying something different in

1120
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 3: all of his scenes.

1121
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, see what sticks all right. Finally, the music on

1122
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 2: this one, So Michael came in did the score for

1123
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 2: the first film, and this time around it is American

1124
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: musician and composer Stuart Copeland born nineteen fifty two, best

1125
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 2: known as the drummer for the Police.

1126
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 3: Got to respect the Drummer from the Police. If you

1127
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 3: listen to them. They've got some really complicated, difficult drum parts.

1128
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 3: Copeland knows what he's doing.

1129
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 2: I'll have to go back and listen to some Police tracks.

1130
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,479
Speaker 2: But he's also done a lot of film scoring as well.

1131
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 2: His first score was for nineteen eighty three's Rumblefish, directed

1132
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 2: by Francis Ford Coppola, and he went on to score

1133
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 2: such films as Wall Street and Goudburger, then a lot

1134
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 2: of other stuff as well. No slam on Good Burger.

1135
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 2: I know people who are big fans of Good Burger.

1136
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 3: Couldn't get Hans Zimmer for Goudburger.

1137
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 2: Hans Zimmer has directed, as we've said, a lot of

1138
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 2: films and not I imagine some of them are maybe in

1139
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 2: like this same stratosphere as Good Burger.

1140
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 3: Can you imagine the trailer Welcome to Good Burger, Home

1141
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 3: of the Good Burger.

1142
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 2: Now? I would say in general this film suffers from

1143
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 2: a lack of queen tracks. There was. Upon rewatching it,

1144
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 2: there is more use of queen music than I remembered,

1145
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 2: but it's still not enough. You can't fault Copeland for

1146
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 2: this though. But interestingly enough, the Police were also originally

1147
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 2: considered for the Highlander one soundtrack before they ended up

1148
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 2: going with Queen.

1149
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 3: Oh, that would have been a different feeling, wouldn't it.

1150
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 2: Don't I don't want to imagine it, you know, all

1151
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 2: respect in the world of the police. But I mean,

1152
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 2: that's Queen's movie, and it's not even Highlander without that

1153
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 2: awesome soundtrack by Queen. I listened to the full It's

1154
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 2: a kind of Magic album yesterday whilst working on some

1155
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 2: of these notes, and it's just it's just a tree

1156
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 2: here we are, all right, Let's let's start getting into

1157
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 2: the plot here a little bit. Let's start discussing Highlander

1158
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 2: two in earnest.

1159
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,479
Speaker 3: Knowing that we will have to break for time soon,

1160
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 3: but I think we find we'll find a natural place

1161
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 3: to do that.

1162
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 2: That's right.

1163
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 3: So, because the first act of this cut of the

1164
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 3: movie is so relentlessly excellent, I admit I might be

1165
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 3: a little too detail oriented in recounting it. We'll see,

1166
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 3: but I do want to capture in this episode and

1167
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,919
Speaker 3: the next, like the rhythm of plot developments, especially once

1168
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 3: you get to the year twenty twenty four, at least

1169
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 3: up until the part where Connor McLeod becomes hot again,

1170
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 3: because everything up to that point is just like a

1171
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 3: relentless tickle of my brain and it's so good.

1172
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then when he gets hot again, that's in

1173
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 2: the midst of one of the best sequences in the

1174
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 2: entire film.

1175
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, So we open on a curse opaque sky

1176
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 3: filled with poisonous orange smog, and there's a dissonant minor

1177
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 3: chord playing on the soundtrack, and the title reads August

1178
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety nine, and we hear the voiceover of a

1179
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 3: newscaster who says, good morning, Today's top story is the

1180
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 3: Ozone Layer. Can you imagine that being the top story

1181
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 3: in the news. It says, Today's top story is the

1182
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 3: Ozone Layer. It continues to disintegrate, taking with it our

1183
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 3: protection from the sun's rays. Then more voices join and

1184
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 3: we hear different news reports playing over one another about

1185
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 3: how it's too dangerous to go outside, the White House

1186
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 3: has declared a national emergency, etc.

1187
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 2: Now quick note here. If you want to hear us

1188
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 2: talk more about the Ozone Layer aspect of this plot,

1189
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 2: go back into the archives and find the Stuff to

1190
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 2: blow your mind episode about Highlander two, and that's where

1191
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 2: you'll find extended discussion on that aspect of the film.

1192
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 3: So then some newscaster says, in Africa, where shelter from

1193
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 3: the sun is almost non existent, the dead and dying

1194
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 3: number in the millions. I found that confusing. It's like

1195
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 3: we're shelter. There are buildings with roofs in Africa. What

1196
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 3: are they talking about? But anyway, we're told that people

1197
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 3: are dying from exposure to the sun. And we see

1198
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 3: what looks like a giant warehouse full of patients and

1199
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 3: sick beds with nurses running around, and a sign tells

1200
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 3: us this is the solar radiation ward. Then another newscaster

1201
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 3: comes in and says it's just a few months now

1202
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 3: until the ozone layer is completely gone. A team of

1203
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 3: international scientists led by doctor Allan Naman and supervised by

1204
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 3: Connor McLeod work around the clock. This may be the

1205
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 3: last chance for planet Earth. And here we see Christopher

1206
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 3: Lambert as Connor McLeod wearing a suit and tie. He's

1207
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 3: gathered with other scientists and some kind of concrete bunker

1208
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 3: with light pouring in from a horizontal window in the side,

1209
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 3: like they're about to observe the trinity test. It looks

1210
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 3: like that one of the nuclear observation bunkers, a shorter

1211
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 3: man in a bow tie hugs Connor and says they'll

1212
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 3: remember this day for a thousand years, the day we

1213
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 3: protected the planet from the Sun. I don't know why

1214
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 3: that's so funny, but it is from the Sun. So

1215
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 3: we hear a countdown began, and they're they're preparing to

1216
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 3: activate the shield which is going to protect the Earth

1217
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 3: from the Sun, and we see dudes in yellow devo

1218
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 3: suits sprinting away from the direction of a giant concrete pyramid.

1219
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 3: I don't know why they have to sprint again. This

1220
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 3: seems like a planned event, so they could be on

1221
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 3: a car or something, but a satellite in space rotates

1222
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 3: into position. We see technicians and operators in a command

1223
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 3: center all confirming that they are ready to go. I

1224
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 3: have to say a lot of the technicians really are

1225
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 3: dressed like LDS missionaries, like the crisp white shirt and

1226
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 3: the black tie.

1227
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a choice.

1228
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 3: And then we see we see the pyramid and the

1229
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 3: there's like the big concrete pyramid with sort of skyscrapers

1230
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 3: on top of the pyramid, and then a giant beam

1231
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 3: of energy starts shooting out of it, goes up into

1232
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 3: the sky and the shield is turned on and so

1233
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 3: it looks kind of like a lightsaber beam going out

1234
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 3: of the pyramid into space. It connects with the beam

1235
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 3: from a satellite and establishes some kind of multicolored laser

1236
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 3: aurora net that spreads out over the surface of the Earth,

1237
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 3: blocking the Sun's rays and shrouding the Earth in darkness.

1238
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 2: I want to throw in that if you watch carefully,

1239
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 2: at least one of these sci fi Ground Command guys

1240
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 2: is Russell McKay in a director's cameo, which is pretty fun. Oh.

1241
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 2: I don't know which one though, he says a line

1242
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 2: or two. So, but he's just one of the one

1243
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 2: of the crew there behind a computer screen.

1244
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 3: Wonder if he's the guy with the ponytail.

1245
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 2: This one in the still that you have in the outline. Yes,

1246
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 2: that's not in another guy, but he's in there somewhere.

1247
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 2: So as far as the prolog goes like, this is

1248
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 2: a success story, right, This is essentially how Connor McLeod

1249
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 2: uses the prize to save the world. He's able to

1250
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 2: orchestrate this massive technoscientific effort to save the world from

1251
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 2: its own depleted ozone layer and protect it from solar radiation.

1252
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 3: I really appreciate your reading of how the prize is

1253
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 3: actually being used in the setup of the movie here.

1254
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 3: I had never put that together before, but it makes sense.

1255
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,719
Speaker 3: If he can read everyone's minds to establish peace and harmony,

1256
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 3: he would be a great uh well actually, and maybe

1257
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 3: I'm taking this for granted that that would make one

1258
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,679
Speaker 3: a great organizer of people, But it seems like it could.

1259
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,640
Speaker 2: It seems like it could. Yeah, Like, once you get

1260
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 2: down to the nitty gritty of it, I don't know,

1261
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:51,440
Speaker 2: you're still dealing with very difficult problems of international cooperation

1262
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 2: and corporate interests and public sentiment and so forth. But

1263
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 2: if anybody can do it, it's the immortal guy who

1264
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 2: can read everybody mind.

1265
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 3: That's right. So he gets all of the scientists together

1266
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 3: and they're ready to protect the Earth. But as we

1267
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 3: learn as the film progresses, this protective shield does succeed

1268
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 3: in its goal. It does protect the Earth from the sun,

1269
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 3: but it comes with a lot of downsides, and those

1270
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 3: downsides will ultimately make everyone hate Connor MacLeod, make him

1271
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 3: very alone, and literally people come up to him in

1272
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 3: the streets saying, like, you put that puke in the sky,

1273
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 3: I hate you. You ruined my life.

1274
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 2: It makes me wonder if the screenwriters here were perhaps

1275
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 2: dipping a little bit into some of the themes and

1276
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 2: the Dune sequels, where you know, like in Doune Messiah

1277
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 2: and then also in God Emperor of Dune in post

1278
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 2: God impro of Doom books, where you know, you're dealing

1279
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 2: with interpretations of rulers and you know, major players in

1280
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 2: history that then cast them as devils and tyrants and

1281
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: so forth, you know, And it's like Connor does save

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Speaker 2: the world, and does the world thank him. No, they

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Speaker 2: really get sick of his solution.

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Speaker 3: They literally throw bottles at him in bars.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But it's also funny because it presumes anybody would

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Speaker 3: know what a scientist looks like or the administrator of

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Speaker 3: a scientific project looks like, like twenty five years after

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Speaker 3: it's over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I guess he was that

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Speaker 2: big of a celebrity. It's like knowing what Einstein looked like,

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Speaker 2: except I don't know, except more handsome.

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Speaker 3: So I think we're gonna have to end part one

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Speaker 3: of our discussion of Highlander two the Quickening, but we

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Speaker 3: will be back with more because right after what we've

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Speaker 3: gotten to in the plot it cuts to twenty five

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Speaker 3: years in the future, to the year twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Like this is a contemporary story.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have to leave you wondering until next week

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Speaker 3: how future events such as these will affect you in

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Speaker 3: the future.

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Speaker 2: That's right. So make sure you go ahead and tune in.

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Speaker 2: And hey, if you listen to this entire episode and

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Speaker 2: you still haven't watched Islander two and full, here's a

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Speaker 2: great chance to do it. Fill the time between this

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Speaker 2: episode and the next watching some version of Highland or two,

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Speaker 2: you know, preferably the theatrical cut, the zeist cut. But hey,

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Speaker 2: work with what you got because some of these sequences

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Speaker 2: are still going to be mindlessly stupid or just amazingly awesome,

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Speaker 2: so you'll still be able to relate to what we're

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Speaker 2: talking about.

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Speaker 3: It'll be a good time no matter what.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well just remind you here. The Stuff

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Speaker 2: to Blow Your Mind is primarily a signs and culture podcast,

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Speaker 2: with core episodes on Tuesdays and Thursdays, listener mail on Mondays,

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Speaker 2: short form episode on Wednesdays, and on Fridays. We set

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Speaker 2: aside most serious concerns to just talk about a weird

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Speaker 2: film on Weird House Cinema. If you want to see

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Speaker 2: a complete list of everything we've talked about so far,

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Speaker 2: and sometimes a peek ahead at what's coming up next,

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Speaker 2: go on over to letterbox dot com. That's L E

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Speaker 2: T T E R B O x D dot com.

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Speaker 2: Once you're there, you can look for our username, it's

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Speaker 2: weird House. You'll find a list of everything we've covered.

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Speaker 2: It's a pretty remarkable little website. You know, you can essentially,

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Speaker 2: you know, blog against social media about the various films

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Speaker 2: that you've watched or want to watch, and it's a

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Speaker 2: great way to just see in a glance what we've

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Speaker 2: been up to as well.

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Speaker 3: Huge thanks as always to our excellent audio producer JJ Posway.

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Speaker 3: If you would like to get in touch with us

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Speaker 3: with feedback on this episode or any other, to suggest

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Speaker 3: a topic for the future, or just to say hello,

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Speaker 3: you can email us at contact at stuff to Blow

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Speaker 3: your Mind dot com.

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