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Speaker 1: of Ronanian the Car Doctor, since this is where car

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Speaker 1: the Car doctor, sir. It's an absolute pleasure. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: great to be here. Um. You know, as I said

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Speaker 1: here in Mawah, New Jersey. The Sheridan our next guest, Well,

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Speaker 1: Barriss and Lambros Facilia. We're sitting here talking to him

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Speaker 1: Hello there, Yeah, there you go. Hello. Where Um it's

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Speaker 1: a way to solve those those uh design challenges. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you brought me a thirty nine forward, for instance,

425
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 1: I consider that car perfectly designed. So if you brought

426
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 1: me a thirty nine four to build, I wouldn't do

427
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: anything to it. I would just leave the body perfectly

428
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: alone because that didn't need any help. So this car

429
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: needed help. And I think that we went about it

430
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: in a very calculated manner and looked at it as Okay,

431
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 1: remove that part because it doesn't it doesn't work for

432
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: the next piece. How can we make that part look better?

433
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 1: And that's that's the that's the approach we take when

434
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: we customize a car. We we restyle it, and we

435
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: do everything that we feel is an improvement, not just

436
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 1: a change for the sake of a change. Now, now,

437
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 1: when it comes to making these changes in the way

438
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,239
Speaker 1: that you go about that, the tooling that you use.

439
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: You were talking before we went on air about a

440
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: power hammer. Now, my my spies tell me that it

441
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 1: took you a while to find your power hammer. How

442
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: would you explain what a power hammer is, um if

443
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: you would to everybody, and just what exactly does it do?

444
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: For example? And I'll continue my question my fifty five

445
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 1: chevys out in front of us. We were talking before

446
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: about the fenders and how their complex curves and GM

447
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: it took a while to stamp them, and it took

448
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 1: a long time for them to be reproduced within the

449
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: last ten years. And you're you had a great example

450
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: of that compared to the power hammer. If you could

451
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 1: relate that story, sure, well, you know you can. You

452
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: can shape a piece of sheet metal with with nothing

453
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: more than a hammer and and a piece of wood.

454
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Speaker 1: You know, you could a hollow at a tree stump,

455
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 1: and you could. You can make you can make a fender.

456
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Speaker 1: You can make a whole car in that in that process.

457
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: But it's a long, strenuous process. It's not it's not

458
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Speaker 1: something that most people would would be willing to do.

459
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Speaker 1: But it's been done. It's been done many times, and

460
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: you could do it that way. And so I started

461
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: out metal shaping with minimal tools. I didn't have the money,

462
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: you know, to buy better tools. I didn't have the

463
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Speaker 1: confidence in my work to even to think that I

464
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Speaker 1: deserve that kind of equipment. So I started out the

465
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: hard way, and I and I would make panels on

466
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Speaker 1: a you know, just a hammer and it handmade English wheel.

467
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: After a while, I made my own English wheel, and

468
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: then after a while I bought an English wheel. And

469
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: and then after I felt like I was kind of

470
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,479
Speaker 1: seeing that thing to its uh, you know, to its limits.

471
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 1: Then uh, I said, you know what, maybe I should

472
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: treat myself to a power hammer. So I bought a

473
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,239
Speaker 1: power hammer. And that has made the work, um go

474
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: a little bit faster. It's a little bit uh kinder

475
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: to my body. I don't go home, you know, aching

476
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: as much as I did when I was working with

477
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: you by hand. So that's that's the advantage to it.

478
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: So I mean it, it does get the work done faster.

479
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: But anything you could do with that with that tool,

480
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: you can do with very simple tools if you have

481
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: the time and the will to do it. But like,

482
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: for instance, the defender that that you're talking about on

483
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: your fifty five Chevy, that takes complex stamps to do that.

484
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Speaker 1: And when General Motors made that car, they knew that

485
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 1: they would make millions of cars, and for that they

486
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 1: were able then to invest in tooling that can make

487
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: those kinds of shapes. If I were to make it

488
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: on my power hammer or on an English wheel or something,

489
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: I can do it for you, but it's gonna take

490
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 1: me a really long time, and it would probably to

491
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: be multiple piece as well to together to to to

492
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: achieve that that that's that same shape were beginning about

493
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: the third fender by now, yeah, exactly. Yeah, you'd be

494
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: on your night on on your third nineteen five Chevy

495
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: by now yeah. So that's the reason why cars aren't

496
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: made that way. But you know, uh, concept cars and

497
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: coach built cars are are made that way, and and

498
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: even even today that that's that's a you know, a

499
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: process that does happen and people are still using it. Now,

500
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: tell me a little bit about my next two gifts

501
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: that are gonna be on in the next segment. I

502
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: look at the front of your t shirt, it says

503
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: the Tuckers. Yeah, Um, what's what's that about? Working with Well,

504
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: real quick, my my family has a history that goes

505
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: back to nineteen forty seven. My grandfather was a dealer

506
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: for the Tucker motor car in Yonkers, New York. And

507
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: uh so with that we have Tucker. We have a

508
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: love for Tucker in our blood. And so now we're

509
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: able to take that love for Tuckers and our abilities

510
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 1: to make cars and combine them. And I'm very fortunate

511
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: to have great friends Shawn and Mike Tucker here today,

512
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: and they are the great grandsons of Preston Tucker. And

513
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: these guys are brilliant, just like a great grandfather was.

514
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: And they are helping me. Um see this concept car

515
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: that that Preston Tucker called the Tucker Torpedo. He dreamed

516
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: of it in nineteen He never was able to make

517
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: the car. And if you see the movie, you'll see

518
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: that he had an original concept car in his mind.

519
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: Jeff Bridges played Preston Tucker to Francis Ford Coppola movie

520
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: and uh, he dreamed of a car, and little by

521
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: little that car got chipped away for a lot of

522
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: different reasons, and then they went and moved on to

523
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: a production model. So these guys are here today to

524
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 1: explain all about the Tucker Torpedo and what it takes

525
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: for us to make that car by hand. Cool beans.

526
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to them next. The listeners want more information,

527
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: It's rob Ida Concepts dot com exactly. That's it, perfect listen.

528
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: Thank you for being here, sir. You're your jeweler. Thank

529
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: you very much, my favorite watchmaker. I really appreciate you

530
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: being here. I'm rondomating the Car Doctor. We are back

531
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Speaker 1: right after this Welcome back where I'm the name of

532
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, live at dead Man's Curve, Wild Hot

533
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: Rod Weekend. The next interview is going to be really

534
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: kind of strange. You know, I've i've I've heard of

535
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: twins being interviewed on radio, but the last person I

536
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: know that did it was Howard Stern. Obviously I am

537
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: not he Um, and the two gentlemen I'm about to interview, well,

538
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 1: they're probably not as cute as the twins that Howard interviews.

539
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: UM Sean and Michael Tucker are the great grandsons and

540
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: jump into anytime fellows if I'm wrong, but are the

541
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: great grandsons of Preston Tucker. And it's it's really kind

542
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: of a kick talking to these two because well, let

543
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: me ask him, which one of you guys does the

544
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: does the most work. It depends on what kind of

545
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: work you're talking about. So Shawn's Shawn's always focused more

546
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: on the engineering and I focused more on the business side.

547
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: And that was always our plan to uh someday make

548
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: something out of those two. Well you got seem to

549
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: be doing it. Um, just what exactly are the Tucker

550
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: boys up to now? So probably, I mean the biggest

551
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: project we have going on right now is is with Rabbiehood.

552
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: If we just heard from Um, the Tucker Torpedo, which

553
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: is the concept car for the Tucker I guess the

554
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: production car if there was, But we're we're involved in

555
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: helping Rob and in the crew get all the engineering

556
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: and in uh you know, support from the family and

557
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: design and in every all the directional type of correct

558
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: being the great grandsons of of Preston Tucker like that,

559
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: do you have access in the family, I mean, do

560
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: you have access to the blueprints and the drawings and

561
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: the so we we we do, I guess relative to

562
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: the forty eight, the production car, but when we're talking

563
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: about the Torpedo, you you kind of quickly run out

564
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: of of information. So there was a lot of uh,

565
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: concept sketches, but not really any engineering. So that's kind

566
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: of all all has to be done for this car.

567
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: So so which one of you is doing that? I'm

568
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: doing yeah, well yeah, me and being a team of

569
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: other people as so it's but we're we're doing all

570
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: the engineering for pretty much every piece of the car,

571
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: and it's got a lot of difficult aspects. So unlike

572
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: the production Tucker at Center Drive, which presents some challenges

573
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: relatively getting in and out as a venders turned with

574
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: the wheels so there's a lot of these these pretty

575
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: complicated systems that we have to figure out, you know,

576
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: on a on a one off basis, which now is

577
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: the hope here to produce one, to produce ten, to

578
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: produce a hundred. I mean I think that there will

579
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: only be one. So it's uh and that's um. I

580
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: think working with Rob the passion is really just to

581
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: create something that didn't exist and making another one. I

582
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: don't think would I would do would do anymore for

583
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: the story? You know that, or you probably just wouldn't

584
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: hold up. You'd you'd be a little grayer and a

585
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: little older. Michael, are you gonna you're gonna do that?

586
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna do the marketing for this car when this

587
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: when this story comes in? Yeah, the plan has always been,

588
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: you know so I've I've got a lot of history

589
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: in in the business, So once things are ready to go,

590
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: I'll be and marketing and business and things like that

591
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: for for the project. Well, while while Sean's doing all

592
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: the that's right, the easy stuff. Yeah right, somebody's gonna

593
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: get dirty. Yeah, so now does work? I just gotta

594
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: ask you, you guys, are you guys are like identical twins?

595
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: I still can't tell you which one got a black shirt,

596
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: one got a Richard. They both say talker. You know.

597
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: The funny part is we had we had to coordinate

598
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: this morning, so we didn't wear the same shirt, so

599
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: we didn't look exactly when you guys went to high

600
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: school like it was together, Could you like fool the

601
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: teachers on who was in what class? Or did they

602
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: split you up on purpose? They split us up. We

603
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: never really tried to play that trick if I could have. Yeah,

604
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: we've got our share of fun with it. Uh makes

605
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: you want to go back, right? So I gave you guys, Yeah,

606
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: Well listen, I gotta tell you I'm a big fan

607
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: of Tucker. I've seen the movie a million times, and

608
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: I've got to tell you. I look at you two,

609
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: and I see that gleam in your eye. I think

610
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: you guys will do this. And if we hear at

611
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: the car, doctor can do anything to help you any more.

612
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: Press You're always welcome back. We can talk about this

613
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: and put you back up on air and always always

614
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: help you in any which way we can. I don't

615
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: want to mention we are we're actually doing a showing

616
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: of the Tucker movie in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. We're gonna have

617
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: one around Bitus hot Rods there next Sunday on in

618
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: September eleven five. Well, listen, you know what we're on

619
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. You never know whom show are. We're just everywhere,

620
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: but as a great pleasure really, and you guys are

621
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: a tribute to the Tucker legacy. And thanks for being

622
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: here with us today. Thank you, thank you. I'm running

623
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: any in the car doctor. We are back right after this, Hey,

624
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: running any in the car doctor. We are winding it

625
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: down this hour here at the Wild hot Rod Weekend,

626
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: dead Man's Curve in Mama, New Jersey at the Sheridan

627
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: cross Roads. And to help me wind things down, nobody better,

628
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: Mike Kicky, dead Man's Curve founding member, I think or

629
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: you're one of the long term members. Long term found founder. Um.

630
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: I see we have the sonic drags going out on

631
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: it in front of us. Absolutely. Um. We will be

632
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,479
Speaker 1: running the muffling wrapping contests and wrapping contests shortly, and

633
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: so we're gonna hear a lot of noise over the

634
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: next few minutes. Here we're off the air in a

635
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: couple of three good minutes so hopefully they wait because

636
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: I think the listeners well, and then again it might

637
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: not be a bad thing. See, this is a moment

638
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: where the listeners want to have that race car and

639
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: a spray can so they could kind of spray the

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00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: house and listen to the cars. You'll be like spending

641
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: a day at the dragster. Absolutely. Now you smell that

642
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: fuel in the air. Yeah, can you imagine? That's what

643
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: the sixties were like, right that? It was just all

644
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: the time. You know, you you go to a drag

645
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: strip or your or you know, a car show like this,

646
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: and you get that aroma and it just makes it

647
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 1: takes you back. Um, you know the old alcohol dragsters

648
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: and the nitro and even the VP and the other fuels,

649
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: the high octane one ten and so on. It's out there.

650
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: It's just you love to smell that stuff. It just

651
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: takes you back, and then it brings you forward because

652
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: you realize and I get a sense of that as

653
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: I look at the cars that are here today, Mike.

654
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 1: And it's just too big a description to even begin

655
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: to mention, But you look at the cars today, they

656
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: all look alike. They all look like hard hats going

657
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: down the road with four tires. They just there's there's

658
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: nothing descriptive about them, absolutely right. You know. Growing up

659
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: in the sixties, uh, and being involved as long as

660
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: you know, you and I have been, Uh, there's life

661
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: long lasting impressions in our minds of what we feel

662
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: a hot rod or or you know, a muscle car

663
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: and so on, a custom that should be. And as

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00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: you're looking around here, um, you just see hundreds of different,

665
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: if you will, flavors of these cars. Uh. You know

666
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: it's there's many of them, personalized maybe by color or

667
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: by just uh, different drive lines, and and it's just

668
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: so much that brings it together. And again, our our

669
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: show and our whole club has always been a nineteen

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00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: and seventy two and older. Uh, so we we've tried

671
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: to tried to keep that, that style and so on,

672
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: and not introduce these newer cars that, at least in

673
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: my opinion, don't doesn't have the the the the yes

674
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: or the appeal, doesn't have the spirit. There's there's just

675
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: something different. You know. What's here is I look out,

676
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: there's family here, There's kids here with their mom and dad.

677
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: You know that that's what we promote. I mean, first

678
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: of all, we've been friends and and and we bring

679
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: our friends and friendship and family first, and then from

680
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 1: there we go on to and we promote that this

681
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: is a children friendly environment, and and and and you know,

682
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: if one kid out here gets the bug today and

683
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: wants to build an old car, we've done a good thing. Well.

684
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: And you know, if one kid out here gets the

685
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: bug and wants to build a car, and he's not

686
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: on the streets, and he doesn't end up with some

687
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: of the bad things that are out there and some

688
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 1: of the bad choices this you know what one thing

689
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: I learned about building hot rods and working on cars

690
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: all my life. It's the confidence building, absolutely and the

691
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,959
Speaker 1: satisfaction to be able to get in here and start

692
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: that engine the first time in your roar and drive

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00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: it like like like nothing just you can't describe it.

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Speaker 1: Mike Kicky dead Man's Curve. We're glad they be here

695
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: with you. As always, I'm running any in the car

696
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: lock and reminding all of you good mechanics aren't expensive,

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00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: They're priceless. To see you