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Speaker 1: Happy Monday. We have an amazing show for everybody today.

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Speaker 1: When do we have crystals for it to be back?

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Speaker 1: Indeed we do. It does feel good to be back.

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Speaker 1: We missed you guys. Hope you all had a happy Thanksgiving. Also,

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Speaker 1: big change for me while I was away. I am

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Speaker 1: now officially forty years old. Yeah, No, emotionally coping with today. Honestly, Actually,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing okay with it. Big stories today. I'm obviously

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Speaker 1: going to talk a lot about that new variant that

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Speaker 1: concern that would be omicron. We're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: it from a political perspective and what it might mean

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Speaker 1: be talking about how our president spent his Thanksgiving. Yes,

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Speaker 1: very interesting details. There a terrible, terrible op ed on

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Speaker 1: of all time. So we'll talk to you about that.

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Speaker 1: Some big news and labor movement. Also, some big news

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Speaker 1: with former presidential contender and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

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Speaker 1: You did not want to miss her latest comments, but

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Speaker 1: we wanted to start with the latest. With that variant

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Speaker 1: omicron first identified in South Africa. They have pretty advanced

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Speaker 1: The reason that scientists are somewhat concerned about this is

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Speaker 1: The stock market also kind of freaked out. We've got

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Speaker 1: We've got COVID pills, we've got vaccines. Many people are

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Speaker 1: And this is what you're delving into in your monologue,

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Speaker 1: actually lives a Marc's vineyard in Massachusetts. So you know,

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Speaker 1: it's the perfect display. And at the very same time,

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Speaker 1: Crystal the politico, you know, put out kind of a

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving special. Let's put this up there on the screen.

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Speaker 1: The Democratic brand is broken. Really, the infrastructure bill isn't fixing.

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Speaker 1: I wonder why. Now. What I love here is that

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Speaker 1: they put focus on a focus group actually put together

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Speaker 1: by Third Way. Now, as you said, you know, you

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Speaker 1: may have an ideological difference with Third Way, but the

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Speaker 1: focus group's actually pretty good. And these are just direct quotes,

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Speaker 1: you know, from people in suburban Virginia, and what they

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Speaker 1: point to time and time again is that even with

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Speaker 1: the Democrats, you know, expecting to lose their house and more,

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Speaker 1: is that it is going to be even worse than

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Speaker 1: we could possibly imagine. Because what the focus group point

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Speaker 1: to is that voters believe the economy is bad. No

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Speaker 1: amount of stats can change their mind. In terms of

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Speaker 1: the White House and Kamala Harris, you know, putting out

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Speaker 1: these ridiculous charts, being like, actually everything is fine. They

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Speaker 1: say jobs numbers, wage numbers, the number of people will

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Speaker 1: put back to work. It does not move them. Instead,

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Speaker 1: we should still talk about the things like more wages

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Speaker 1: and back to number one, but realize that they don't

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Speaker 1: have impact. Whenever people see help wanted signs all over

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Speaker 1: main street, restaurants sections closed for lack of workers, rising prices,

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Speaker 1: and supplied disruptions even where things are getting better better,

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Speaker 1: Biden does not get the credit. And what they actually

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Speaker 1: point to within is the disconnect between the stuff they

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Speaker 1: feel is going on in your life and then all

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Speaker 1: the stuff happening here in Washington. Cinema tax increase on

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Speaker 1: this no carried into sloophole. Also, none of the social

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Speaker 1: programs will really impact you all that much because of

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Speaker 1: all the means testing. All that stuff very hard to understand,

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Speaker 1: so irrelevant. At the same time, pump more expensive, gas

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Speaker 1: station more expensive exactly what's going on in day to

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Speaker 1: day life. I mean, I'm not the only guy who's

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Speaker 1: seen this. You go all over this country, you can't

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Speaker 1: go into a place where that help wanted sign or

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Speaker 1: something like that, and it's just completely disrupting the way

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Speaker 1: that life was supposed to be. Biden said, we go

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Speaker 1: back to normal. It's not normal. And you put that

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Speaker 1: all together, especially with the lack of legislative vision from

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Speaker 1: the White House and what I mean, it's been almost

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Speaker 1: president for almost a year at this point. It's on

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Speaker 1: you now, dude. Well, the funniest part is they said

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Speaker 1: most of the voters Third Way spoke with in suburban

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Speaker 1: Virginia focus groups, according to the report quote, could not

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Speaker 1: articulate would Democrats stand for. They could also not say

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Speaker 1: what they are doing in Washington. Besides fighting the irony

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Speaker 1: of Third Way putting out this report and doing these

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Speaker 1: focus groups is they are part of the reason that

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Speaker 1: Democrats stand for nothing. Like their answer would to this

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Speaker 1: would be like, that's why they should do even less,

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Speaker 1: That's why they should means test even more. But the

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Speaker 1: insights for the voters are very interesting. Look, as we've

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Speaker 1: been saying here, the biggest problem for Democrats honestly is

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Speaker 1: optics like Pelosi officiating the Ivy Getty wedding or Biden

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Speaker 1: at a freaking private equity billionaire's house on Thanksgiving. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you could not possibly write a better attack ad for

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Speaker 1: how out of touch this man has become from the

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Speaker 1: people that he was sent there to serve. And it's

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Speaker 1: not as if Carlisle Group doesn't have, you know, impending

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Speaker 1: business before the federal government. This is something that our

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Speaker 1: friend David Serota pointed out, which was quoted in this piece.

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Speaker 1: Quote President Biden is vacationing at the Nantucket home of

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Speaker 1: a billionaire whose private equity firm is right now lobbying

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Speaker 1: to shape Biden's final build back Better bill. It's already

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Speaker 1: very let them eat cake for President to hang out

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Speaker 1: at a billionaire's Nantucket pad, But it is some real

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Speaker 1: Gilded Age shit when the billionaire's private equity firm has

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Speaker 1: all sorts of interests before the government right now. So

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Speaker 1: it's not just the optics, it's also the corruption. It's

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Speaker 1: also the fact that, I mean, this just underscores again

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Speaker 1: who our political class actually serves, who they see themselves

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Speaker 1: as part of their social circle, who they're socializing with,

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Speaker 1: and human beings being how they are. Those are then

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Speaker 1: the views that end up shaping your thoughts and ultimately

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Speaker 1: the legislation that has passed. That's why this is such

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Speaker 1: a problem. And just to show you, i mean, Glenn

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Speaker 1: Youngkin who just got elected in Virginia. Oh, it was

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Speaker 1: a Carlisle Group executive for decades, and Terry mccalluff, who

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Speaker 1: was running against him as the Democrat. I didn't point

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Speaker 1: it out because he had made massive investments in Carlisle

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Speaker 1: Group and they are just as nefarious as your average

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Speaker 1: private equity firm. In fact, they first came to major

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Speaker 1: public prominence thanks to Michael Moore Fahrenheit nine to eleven

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Speaker 1: all joining out that George Bush Senior was on their board.

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Speaker 1: They profited massively because they had these big investments in

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Speaker 1: the defense industry when we decided to go to war

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Speaker 1: on false pretenses in Iraq and also you know, in

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Speaker 1: Afghanistan to get the bad guys. So yeah, those are

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Speaker 1: the types of entities and individuals that both our parties

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Speaker 1: love to surround themselves with and ultimately aspire to be

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Speaker 1: part of that class rather than aspiring, i don't know,

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Speaker 1: to maybe serve you and make sure you can enjoy

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Speaker 1: a nice Thanksgiving dinner as well. Yeah, you can't create

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Speaker 1: a better uniparty meme than Glenn Youngkin, the recently governor

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Speaker 1: elect of the State of Virginia, being the former co

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Speaker 1: CEO of the Carlisle Group while the Democratic President of

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Speaker 1: the United States staying in the Carlisle Group founder's home

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Speaker 1: in Nantucket. Presumably great, how co I mean that just

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Speaker 1: goes to show you where we are. It's like you

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Speaker 1: can't escape because these people have tentacles and hands in

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Speaker 1: both parties, and they're making ensure that their interests are

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Speaker 1: absolutely represented whenever it comes to the table. And there's

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Speaker 1: just nothing that you can really get. There's no way

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Speaker 1: to skirt it on the national political stage, on the

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Speaker 1: current environment. And I really got to say, like with Biden,

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Speaker 1: do you not think the man would have better political

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Speaker 1: instincts in this What is wrong with you? Yeah? You know,

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Speaker 1: if you go and you read like Bill Clinton. I

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Speaker 1: read Bill Clinton's biography. He was having really tough time

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Speaker 1: in ninety three in terms of his political environment. Very

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Speaker 1: similar actually, and they were like, look sir, people think

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Speaker 1: you're out of touch. People think that you're pushing stuff

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Speaker 1: that is not in line with us. So we need

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Speaker 1: to get your ass out west and put you on

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Speaker 1: a horse. He was outing. Yeah, he did like a

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Speaker 1: how he did like a horse riding thing where he

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Speaker 1: wore it looked ridiculous. Okay, he's a Yale educated Georgetown lawyer,

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Speaker 1: which is fine. You know, he happens to have an accent.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, they at least tried to

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Speaker 1: build him in hard, you know, to try at least

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Speaker 1: tried to make him seem as if he was more

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Speaker 1: you know, in tune with the average American. I mean,

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Speaker 1: white working class people are the people who elected Bill

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Speaker 1: Clinton too, ultimately, and so you look then at Biden

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Speaker 1: and he just doesn't care. I mean, the pretense at

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Speaker 1: the lowest point in your presidency to go and have

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Speaker 1: vacation and hang out at a billionaire's house in Nantucket,

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine, you know, in terms of the optics,

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Speaker 1: it's said, such a dumb move. Obama at least waited

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Speaker 1: until he left office to start doing this type of stuff.

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Speaker 1: But you know, it's a mask off moment. It just

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Speaker 1: shows us who these people really are. Indeed, speaking of

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Speaker 1: masks off and people being who they really are, CNN

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Speaker 1: has a wonderful op ed saying, you know, Kamala Harris

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Speaker 1: and Pete Boodhagi, they should put all this infighting and

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Speaker 1: tension aside and they should just join up together. And

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Speaker 1: what this individual describes as a dream ticket for the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party. Let's go ahead and throw this of ed

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Speaker 1: up on the screen. This is amazing, just the brainworms

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Speaker 1: that have infected people with influence in the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 1: Let me read this tweet. Kama Harris and Pete Budagic

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Speaker 1: could agree to run together in twenty twenty four if

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Speaker 1: Biden does not run again, giving the Democratic Party a

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Speaker 1: very strong ticket. That would seem like a natural continuation

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Speaker 1: of Biden's first term. Some of the details here, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it just is a perfect case study of the foolish

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Speaker 1: direction that they have taken the Democratic Party in. So

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Speaker 1: the case here is basically like, oh, well, they have

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Speaker 1: these different demographic identities, and oh they hail from different

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Speaker 1: parts of the country. To the extent that any sort

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Speaker 1: of ideology is brought up here, they're saying, look, the

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Speaker 1: right wing has tried to paint Harris as being on

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Speaker 1: the far left, but that attack never got much traction.

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Speaker 1: So making the case that somehow Kama and Pete are

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Speaker 1: going to be the ideological dream ticket. Also of the

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Speaker 1: name at large, which reminded me of the study we

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Speaker 1: covered from Jacobin, which said, actually that lane they occupy

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Speaker 1: of the woke corporatist is the worst possible lane that

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Speaker 1: you could be in. When they asked all these different

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Speaker 1: voters like do you like this candidate versus this candidate

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Speaker 1: and gave them the messaging that was literally based on

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harrison. I think it was Beto, not heat Bootigi,

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Speaker 1: but based on Kamala and Beto. That was the type

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Speaker 1: of candidate, the woke corporatist candidate that people hated the most.

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Speaker 1: So they want to put them together on one ticket,

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Speaker 1: which is incredible, He writes, This individual Lincoln Mitchell, Harris

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Speaker 1: Buotagig could turn out to be a dream ticket for

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Speaker 1: the Democrats while simultaneously avoiding a potentially damaging dynamic both

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Speaker 1: within the administration and any possible democratic primary. God forbid,

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Speaker 1: we have any democracy and let voters really have a

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Speaker 1: say about who they may want to send them next.

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Speaker 1: We can't possibly have that. It's very important in order

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Speaker 1: to highlight this stuff because people in Wa Washington are

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Speaker 1: becoming increasingly aware as they are leaking to the Washington

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Speaker 1: Post as Joe Biden's own presidential campaign co chair, Chris

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Speaker 1: Dodd and longtime friend in the Senate, says that he

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Speaker 1: may not or is like I hope he runs again,

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Speaker 1: AKA saying you know, it's still totally up in the

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Speaker 1: air possibility. There are real discussions happening right now in DC,

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Speaker 1: looking at the Presden's approval ratings, looking at his very

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Speaker 1: obvious you know, kind of checking out at the very

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Speaker 1: top of the job, and saying okay, like we really

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Speaker 1: really have to prepare for the reality that he may

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Speaker 1: not run again in twenty twenty four. Back in twenty

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Speaker 1: sixteen he chose not to run for personal reasons. It

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Speaker 1: is not outside the realm of possibility. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: the man I think last week turned like seventy nine

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Speaker 1: years old, Like he's really old. And look, it's not

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Speaker 1: an ageous thing to point to an actuarial table, or

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Speaker 1: people are not generally functioning at their best when they

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Speaker 1: reach the very very end of the bell curve whenever

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Speaker 1: it comes to their life. And so buddhaj Edge and

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Speaker 1: Kamala are very aware right now this is their moment,

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Speaker 1: the internal fight within the party. Bristly. You'll remember this,

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Speaker 1: which is that in the post Obama twenty twelve years,

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Speaker 1: By twenty thirteen, it was clear Hillary was getting a

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Speaker 1: lock on everybody that was three years out from the nomination.

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Speaker 1: She retires from the State Department. Obviously, Benghazi, all of that,

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Speaker 1: The real moment for her is that she was going

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Speaker 1: around lining up every Democratic consultant, nuking any possible contender

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Speaker 1: against her, lining up the right people. She had that

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Speaker 1: you know, testimony or whatever in front of the Bengazi hearing,

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Speaker 1: and everyone's like, yes, Queen, even though I still don't

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Speaker 1: really understand how that came out. And then that put

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Speaker 1: her forward for the twenty fifteen announcement that she's officially

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Speaker 1: running for president. These things start years early, and that's

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Speaker 1: exactly in the cycle of where we are, and bodhaj

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Speaker 1: Edge in particular is trying to both play that game

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Speaker 1: but also tell the White House no, no no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't have my hands on this. So let's put

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Speaker 1: this up there. The Buddha Jedge presidential buzz hit the

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Speaker 1: White House. Now he wants you to believe his eye

645
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Speaker 1: isn't on the future. This is from Alex Thompson. He's

646
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Speaker 1: a great reporter. And what he points out there is

647
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Speaker 1: that he says, while Botajudge says he's not com contemplating

648
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Speaker 1: the race. Others are imagining it for him. Now, nobody

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Speaker 1: in the West wings currently shuts that down. It's very open.

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Speaker 1: So that is very important, which is that Budhajedge is

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Speaker 1: trying to signal to the White House no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: don't worry, I'm not running. But the people in the

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00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: White House are much more open to his type of

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Speaker 1: run as opposed to their own Vice president, who is

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Speaker 1: a total disaster. And what I also love is that

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Speaker 1: the Vice president's staff is playing all sorts of identity politics.

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Speaker 1: Check this one out. The chatter has frustrated some staffers

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Speaker 1: of color who see it as disrespectful to Kamala Harris

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Speaker 1: and thinks senior officials should tamp it down. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's not disrespectful to look at a public poll and

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Speaker 1: say this lady is not winning anything, and it ain't

662
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: not nothing to do because of the color of her skin.

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Speaker 1: It's got a lot more to do with the fact

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Speaker 1: that she just seems like an odious person and is

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Speaker 1: a terrible politician. I mean, these are very very long

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Speaker 1: standing problems that she has not standing for anything, always

667
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: trying to rebrand, just being and remaining probably one of

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Speaker 1: the worst politicians on the national stage since Hillary Clinton.

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Speaker 1: But the lock up, I don't think we can discount

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Speaker 1: this crystal for the people who are in politics, which

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Speaker 1: is she could use identity politics to put a freeze

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Speaker 1: on the race and on all the consultants, trying to

673
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: accuse them of being racist or whatever to lock up

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Speaker 1: her nomination. So this is a real battle that is

675
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: happening right now in DC that prepares the stage for

676
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: just wait if he doesn't run in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: These are the very likely two options they're going to

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Speaker 1: put forward. Kamala Harris can never fail. She can only

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Speaker 1: be failed, according to her and her staffers. You know,

680
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: it's just always somebody else's fault. They're not supporting her enough.

681
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: She's being treated by the media. That was the most

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Speaker 1: insane thing to me in the Democratic primary. They're like,

683
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: the media is so meantime, Like what are you talking about?

684
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: Like they propped you up, They wanted to make you happen.

685
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: They tried so hard to make you happen, and people

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00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: just weren't there for it. The White House clearly realizes,

687
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 1: and Democratic operatives clearly realize they have a big problem

688
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: here because they know Kamala Harris is a proven loser

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00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: at this point. I mean, just the politics of that

690
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: are what they are very hard to see how that

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00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: gets turned around. And yet you do have this issue

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Speaker 1: now of, you know, the moment you try to introduce

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Speaker 1: an open primary and put forward, god forbid, Pete Bootage

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Speaker 1: or whatever other terrible candidate they want to try to

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00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: replace her with that they are going to have an

696
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Speaker 1: issue with people saying this is racist, this is sexist,

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Speaker 1: that you're trying to push the first black woman vice president.

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Speaker 1: You're trying to push her aside in order to get

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Speaker 1: your you know whoever, your white guy candidate of choices.

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Speaker 1: And I guess Pete being you know, the first gay

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Speaker 1: president or whatever. I guess that's not enough to trump

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Speaker 1: the identity. I mean, this stuff is all just so ridiculous.

703
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: But the real problem is the fact that they are

704
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Speaker 1: trying once again to shut down any sort of a

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Speaker 1: democratic process for voters in a democratic primary to maybe

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Speaker 1: sort out for themselves who they would like to ultimately

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Speaker 1: have at the top of the ticket. The extremely depressing

708
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: thing for me is that I have been racking my

709
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: brain for a single candidate that I would actually be

710
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: like excited about and it's pretty hard to come up with.

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Speaker 1: What I mean, there's some that I'd be like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: they're okay, they're not bad, Like that would probably be

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Speaker 1: better direction than Pete or Kamala. But when we talk

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Speaker 1: about what voters actually would like to see from the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party, and again that Jackoman study shows the sort

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Speaker 1: of populis progressive. There's almost no one who occupied like

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Speaker 1: Bernie Standers, like the only person who occupies that lady's

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Speaker 1: like one hundred and fifteen. Now, yeah, I mean, like

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Speaker 1: the only one who fits that mold. You can maybe

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Speaker 1: say shared Brown. Yeah, maybe you could possibly say John

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00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: Fetterman maybe in Pennsylvania se very identitarian though that's the problem.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's trying to win the primary with these

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Speaker 1: Philly suburban y moms, so like I get it. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, the man can't go a second without saying

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Speaker 1: the word LGBTQ. He leans into it. He leans into

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Speaker 1: that lane for sure. And again from that study, it's

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Speaker 1: not that you have to like throw racial justice, not

728
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Speaker 1: at all. Actually, you know, support for civil rights and

729
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: racial justice very popular among gettable voters in the working class,

730
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Speaker 1: including the white working class, but they want to feel

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Speaker 1: like you're focused on those bread and butter issues that

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Speaker 1: are really going to make a difference in their life.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think that Kamala Pete is the dream

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Speaker 1: ticket that apparently Democratic operatives have decided the nation is

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Speaker 1: yearning for. Imagine having to choose being Kamala Pete and

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. That's what they're setting this up for. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, Yeah, if it's Kamala and Pete, I mean

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Speaker 1: Trump's going he will be president. There's zero He's the

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Speaker 1: favorite at this point. Who was gonna you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: even if Biden, even if they can like prop him

741
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Speaker 1: up and roll him out again, his approval rating is

742
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: such trash. If they redid the election today, I think

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Speaker 1: Trump would win. I think I easily think Trump would win. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't see any any possible contender right

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00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: now who could beat him. Although I do, and I

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00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: have said this before, never underestimate Trump's stupidity in an

747
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: ability tore up. Right. He's also an old man, and

748
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: so you know, he portrays a lot more vigor, I

749
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 1: would say, than Joe Biden does. But he is also

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Speaker 1: up there on the actuary tables. Anyway, we have some

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Speaker 1: more terrible news for you this time out of Amazon.

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00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: This story is so atrocious and so egregious we had

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Speaker 1: to bring it to you. Listen, we have covered many

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00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: times the abhorrent way that Amazon treats their workers, especially

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Speaker 1: their workers who decide they might want to agitate for

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Speaker 1: a union. Just ask Chris Smalls, who we had on

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Speaker 1: the program. Just was that just last week that we

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Speaker 1: had Christ on to give us an update on the

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Speaker 1: efforts there to try to unionize Amazon. So let's go

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Speaker 1: ahead and throw this tear sheet up on the screen.

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Speaker 1: A man named Declan Smith, who is twenty five years

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Speaker 1: old and who has struggled in his life and is

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Speaker 1: currently living in homeless shelter, got a job at the

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Speaker 1: Amazon warehouse on Staten Island and he was really he

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Speaker 1: really worked hard to make it to that job. It

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00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: took up to three hours on public transit from that

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Speaker 1: homeless shelter in order to get to work. He was

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Speaker 1: very enthusiastic about his job. He was also very enthusiastic

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Speaker 1: about supporting unionization efforts within that Amazon warehouse, something again

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Speaker 1: that we just talked to Chris Smells about last week.

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Speaker 1: And so even though he's doing a good job at

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Speaker 1: work and he's on time, and he's working really hard.

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Speaker 1: He's very enthusiastic because he's, according to him, talking up

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Speaker 1: unions as well and educating his fellow workers there about

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Speaker 1: their rights and about the reasons why they should consider

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Speaker 1: joining up with a union. He starts getting attention, negative

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Speaker 1: attention from his supervisors. They start pulling him aside. He

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00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 1: starts getting criticized for the job that he's doing, even

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00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: though you know, by his account he's doing everything by

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Speaker 1: the book the way that they want him ultimately to do.

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Speaker 1: It comes to a head on October twenty third, his

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Speaker 1: supervisor asked to speak with him about his performance. He

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00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: refused to Quan Smith refused to meet with that supervisor

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Speaker 1: unless another employee was present. He showed his supervisor a

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Speaker 1: card listing his rights, the legal protections that guarantee unionized

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00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 1: employees the right to union representation during an investigatory interview.

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Speaker 1: According to Smith, he said, I just let him know

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Speaker 1: I had rights and you can't just talk to me

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Speaker 1: like that. But he just looked at me and laughed

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00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: at me and laughed at my union card. After that,

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Speaker 1: the supervisor sent him home for the day. Three days later,

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Speaker 1: he found he could not log into his account on

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Speaker 1: Amazon and he had been fired, he said, because he

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Speaker 1: was trying to unionize. That is blatantly illegal. It is

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Speaker 1: also not the first time that Amazon has been accused

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Speaker 1: of this type of illegal retaliation against workers, including Christian Smalls,

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Speaker 1: but not just him, other workers at their plants across

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Speaker 1: the country, because they are so desperate to keep anyone

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Speaker 1: from agitating for a union at their warehouses. So how

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00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: disgusting is that that you have And at the same

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00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: time they're out there saying, oh, we've got this labor

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Speaker 1: shortage problem, et cetera, et cetera. We've got a tear

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Speaker 1: sheet of that. This is one of their top executives,

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Speaker 1: Dave Clark's the CEO of Amazon's worldwide consumer business, complaining

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Speaker 1: about the tight labor market, saying it poses a challenge

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00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: for the world's largest online retailer. So they're not really

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00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: in a position to just like willy nilly, fire people

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00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: because they don't like what they're saying on the shop floor.

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Speaker 1: That just shows you even more how desperate they are

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Speaker 1: to tamp down any talk of unionization. And so fortunately

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Speaker 1: this man toa Kwan Smith, he was able to get

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Speaker 1: another job. This one I think with FedEx, but the

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00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: fact that he was fired when he's struggling to get

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00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: back on his feet, communing to work three hours from

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Speaker 1: a homeless shelter, it's just absolutely disgusting and shows you

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Speaker 1: how hollow all of their words about Black Lives Matter

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00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 1: really are. Yeah, and you can see here they claim

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00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: that he was fired for excessive tardiness, and he says, look,

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00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: I mean he and his lawyer obviously they probably would

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Speaker 1: say that, but they say that that's obviously not the case.

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Speaker 1: But we saw in the specifics of the Small's case

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Speaker 1: that they can claim, oh, he was showing up to work,

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Speaker 1: you know, he was dangering people from COVID. They don't

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Speaker 1: actually have to prove anything. And then their own leaked

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00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: documents show that things went all the way up to

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Speaker 1: the head of the top of Amazon and that they

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Speaker 1: wanted to, you know, portray him as stupid and they

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Speaker 1: thought that he wouldn't be taken seriously by the media

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Speaker 1: and that it would become a war over you know,

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Speaker 1: he said and Amazon said, and that they would probably prevail.

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Speaker 1: Now in that case, they weren't necessarily wrong, even though

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Speaker 1: Smalls obviously did come out of it and he's got,

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00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: now you know, a driving operation to try and unionize

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Speaker 1: Amazon and all that. But how many people still talk

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Speaker 1: about it? I mean, Amazon's stock is up by what

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00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: like two thousand percent or whatever since that happened, two

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Speaker 1: hundred percent I think since that since that incident occurred. Today,

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Speaker 1: they know that all they have to do is claim

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Speaker 1: that he was excessively tardy. They can say that this

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00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: is a company policy, and imagine trying to prove it.

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00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: How do you prove that because they'd have to take

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00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: this multi trillion dollar company almost at this point, to

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00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: the court and then prove you know, we're through discovery

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00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: and all they would cost and they would drag it

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Speaker 1: through court for a million years, and by that time,

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00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: you know, the guy is literally homeless. I mean, like,

847
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: what kind of power is he supposed to have. They're

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Speaker 1: just going to completely brush him off. This is just

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00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 1: the latest in a slew like we cover a lot

850
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: here of the great resignation of increased work or power,

851
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: of Target not opening on Thanksgiving, of Walmart not opening

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00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving, of the ability for people to have mobile

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00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: capital and have higher wages, and it's almost a blue

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00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: collar phenomenon. But people should not be mistaken that the

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00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: deck is still very much, you know, in these in

856
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Speaker 1: the favor of the boss class. We have the latest example,

857
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Speaker 1: we'll put this up there from Reuters, which is Kellogg

858
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: has planning right now to permanently replace some workers as

859
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: a strike enters. It's eighth week, so Kellogg openly trying

860
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: to basically just say screw you to their striking workers, who,

861
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: once again, when you really look into what a lot

862
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 1: of these people are asking for, it ain't much. Yep.

863
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: Like we're talking in many cases around like a ten

864
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: percent raise. What was it at McDonald's where everybody walked out,

865
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: they were making like nine to seventy five. They're like,

866
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: all we want is ten to fifty, but they wanted

867
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Speaker 1: a quarter. They wanted I think it was ten dollars.

868
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: They want to ten dollar wage. Ten dollars. That's the

869
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: company then ended up having to pay in order to

870
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: get another workforce. I mean, just totally foolish stuff. And yeah,

871
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: I mean permanently hiring scabs to break this strike that

872
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: has been ongoing. The big thing that these union members,

873
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: as we've seen in other instances with John Deere and

874
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: other places across the country, what they're concerned about is

875
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: this two tier employment system that says some workers get

876
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: this package of benefits and wages and other workers that

877
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: came in later get this package, which is intentionally in design.

878
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: This is a terrible innovation of the nineties, as many

879
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: so many things were in order to break solidarity so

880
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: that you don't have one unified workforce. They've come together

881
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: to say, we're done with this two tier system. You

882
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: made record breaking profits last year, we think you can

883
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: afford more, We know you can afford more, and we

884
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: deserve better. And their response to that is just to

885
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: effectively replace them, permanently replace them. Yeah, I mean, it

886
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: really is terrible, and it just goes to show you

887
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: the lengths that these people are up against and what

888
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: are they supposed to do. You know, in a lot

889
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: of these cases they are fighting, you know, in the

890
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: Kellogg case against the two tier system, where they have

891
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: oral workers who are grandfathered in more generous benefits on

892
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: strike because they want better benefits for everybody. Thinking that

893
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,959
Speaker 1: right now is the time I will say this to Kellogg. Look,

894
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: the public is not on your side. I mean we

895
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: saw this in John Deere. You should think about this

896
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: in places like Iowa and elsewhere in the Midwest, not

897
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: necessarily places you know, hotbeds of democratic support or whatever.

898
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 1: The public support for the striking workers of John Deere

899
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: was sky high. I mean it was like two thirds,

900
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: and many said, yeah, I don't care. You know, if

901
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: we're not able to get our machines or whatever, it's

902
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: messed up. These people are not being treated properly and

903
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: are not ultimately getting their wage. And John Deere ultimately

904
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: had to pay out big time to these workers, very

905
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: much at the support of the farming community and others

906
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: who were around them. So I would caution Kellogg from

907
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: thinking that this will stuff will work out in your favor.

908
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that the deck isn't still stacked

909
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: in their favor and that they will probably get away

910
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: with it. That's the sad part, you know. The interesting

911
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: thing with John Deere is not only did the workers

912
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: who were on strike, not only did they get a

913
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: big raise and better benefits, and they got rid of

914
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: a third tier, so at least they're down back down

915
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: to two tiers. But after the strike ended, John Deere

916
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: also lifted the wages across the board. I think it

917
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 1: was eight percent of all of their salaried workforce as well,

918
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: because I'm sure the salaried workforce who were thrown under

919
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: the front lines and like driving tractors into walls and

920
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: stuff to try to break the strike, I'm sure they

921
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,959
Speaker 1: looked at the deal that the blue collar workforce got

922
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: and said, hey, wait a minute, what about us? You know,

923
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: why did you cut us in on the deal as well?

924
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: This is all just to show you that when labor

925
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: is stands in solidarity and wins gains, even if it's

926
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: just at one plant, it can ripple, not to you know,

927
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: throughout that entire workforce, throughout that region, because other employers

928
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: then have to compete with those wages. It lifts the

929
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: floor for absolutely everyone, which is really important. But yeah,

930
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: I mean, bottom line is the deck is still incredibly stacked.

931
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: And it's not an accident that back when the union

932
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: movement was much more pervasive and much more powerful, you

933
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: also had a lot more class politics. Now there basically

934
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 1: is no class politics in the country. I mean, the

935
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: level of correlation between working class people voting together in

936
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: any sort of unified I mean, that's basically been destroyed.

937
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: It's not an accident that that decline has happened as

938
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: the union movement has been decimated, So the last thing

939
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: that they want to see is any sort of resurgent

940
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: labor movement, and it looks for the first time in

941
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: a long time like that is at least a possibility.

942
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say it's a inevitability or it's here,

943
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: it's happening, or anything like that, but at least there's

944
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: a glimmer of possibility of a resurgent labor movement at

945
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: this point. Very interesting. Well, obviously we're going to keep

946
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: you guys updated as quickly as possible. Okay, let's move

947
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: on to this. We always save the best segments for last,

948
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: so two of our favorites, Hillary Clinton and Rachel Maddow

949
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: came together. We always look to Hillary's very wise, astute

950
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: political analysis in real talk, though, this is a very

951
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: important segment because it shows you the mindset of the

952
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: Democratic elite blaming voters for not getting on their knees

953
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: and thanking them enough for all of the supposedly great

954
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: things that they have done. They are blaming voters for

955
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 1: Biden's on popularity and not taking any responsibility themselves. She's

956
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: basically a mouthpiece for that mindset, which is very much

957
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 1: inside the White House. Right now, let's take a listen.

958
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: You know, democracy is messy. You know, a lot of

959
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: people got oh, I think, kind of frustrated looking at

960
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: the messy process of legislation, and they didn't really appreciate that.

961
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: Within a year, the Biden administration has passed two major

962
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: pieces of legislation through both the House and the Senate.

963
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: They've passed another major piece through the House that will

964
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: soon be in the Senate. By any measure, those are

965
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 1: extraordinary accomplishments and and they really will help many millions

966
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: of Americans with healthcare and prescription drug prices, as well

967
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: as climate change and so much else. But because of

968
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: the way we are getting our information today, and because

969
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: of the lack of gatekeepers and people who have a

970
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: historic perspective who can help us understand what we are seeing,

971
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: there is a real vulnerability in the electorate to the

972
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 1: kind of demagoguery and disinformation that, unfortunately the other side

973
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,919
Speaker 1: is really good at exploiting. The other side is good

974
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: at exploiting. It's the same old thing as vast right

975
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: wing conspiracy. This is so every time you blame the voter, oh,

976
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,479
Speaker 1: they're getting frustrated because they see it and they don't

977
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: appreciate it, and the peasants, you know, throwing at them.

978
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. What did we just hear from former

979
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: President Barack Obama, which is, Hey, the other side's worse.

980
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: You know, you people aren't appreciating enough. Twenty sixteen. You

981
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: didn't come out to vote. Whenever I told you to vote,

982
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: I said my name was on the ballot. Y'all didn't

983
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: show up. Y'all are getting tired. I mean every time,

984
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: will any of these people take responsibility? Why can't he

985
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: Biden come out and say, look, I know you guys

986
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: are frustrated. I know it feels like what's happening right

987
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: now is what's happening right now in Washington is disconnected

988
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: from your life. And here's what I'm going to try

989
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: and do about it. X Y and Z. Just saying

990
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: I understand why you're frustrated would lift people's spirits and

991
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: at least make them feel as if the country isn't

992
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: just completely in chaos. And yet that's the problem. I mean.

993
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: And meanwhile, I was hanging out a Nantucket billionaire's house

994
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving. It's like, I don't know what these people

995
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: are doing. But this is the mindset all the very

996
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: top of the Democratic Party right now. She is the

997
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 1: queen of blame shifting. Yes, I mean this is really

998
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: like done the Democrats. This is something they really excel at,

999
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: never having to ever reassess what they're doing. And Hillary

1000
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 1: Clinton and her husband, I mean, they are the authors

1001
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: of this style of democratic politics that we are still

1002
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: living in. So I think that's why she's become so

1003
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: good in a certain way at always having some excuse

1004
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: of why this failure is not our fault. That feel

1005
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: the fact that we've gotten decimated rule and that's really

1006
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: not our fault. The fact that we lost in Virginia

1007
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,919
Speaker 1: State that Biden is one by ten, but that's really

1008
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: not our fault. The fact that we're going to lose

1009
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 1: the House and probably the Senate coming up in the

1010
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: next maternal election, that's really not our fault. It's that

1011
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 1: the voters don't appreciate how great we ultimately are. When

1012
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: I mean, we just read the third Way focus groups.

1013
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: Voters don't even know what you're doing other than fighting

1014
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: with these and don't care about the things that they

1015
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: do know. Yeah, I don't care about that, right, And

1016
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: so I mean, at some point, don't you have to

1017
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: do a little self reflection about like, oh, maybe our

1018
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 1: priorities are maybe we're not selling this in the right way.

1019
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: Maybe we took what was an incredibly popular package of

1020
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: things that actually would have benefited people, and week after

1021
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: week like shot the most popular provisions in the head

1022
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 1: to the point that what's left is, yeah, not really

1023
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: gonna land with much of anything for voters, Like, you know, infrastructure,

1024
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: that's good, it's important. Of course what they passed is

1025
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,919
Speaker 1: still wildly insufficient for actually our means, but in terms

1026
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: of helping people right now today, they've abandoned some of

1027
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: their most popular promises that would have actually impacted So

1028
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: you know, it's this whole idea of like, oh, we've

1029
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: tried nothing and it hasn't worked, what else can we do?

1030
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: It's completely absurd. There was another part. I actually listen

1031
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: in this whole interview, by the way, you're welcome, guys,

1032
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: and I have to say so my first instinct is

1033
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: always just like, oh, I do have to hear from

1034
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: this from this individual. But to your point, I actually

1035
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: think it's really important because she does have her finger

1036
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 1: on the pulse of a certain type of democratic elite

1037
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: and they're thinking, and she says things out loud that

1038
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: sometimes they're more skilled at sort of couching in different language.

1039
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: One of the things that she said in an endless

1040
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: like back and forth between her and Rachel about disinformation

1041
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: and misinformation, Russia and whatever is she said that people

1042
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: who support Trump they don't like the world we're living in.

1043
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: And I just really thought about that and it connected

1044
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: for me back to after she lost and said, oh,

1045
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: the places that are doing well they voted for me,

1046
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: as if that was a good thing, that you are losing.

1047
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: All of the people who feel like they don't like

1048
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: the world that we're living, they feel like they're not

1049
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: doing well, that they're not succeeding. Like, those are the

1050
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: people that are supposed to be gravitating towards the democratic part.

1051
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: Those are the people you're supposed to have an answer

1052
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: for of how you're gonna make the world better. There

1053
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: are lots of good reasons why people may not like

1054
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: the world that we're living in. When they see the

1055
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: billionaire class, you know, getting away with everything and getting

1056
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: tremendously rich, and they see year after year their own

1057
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: household budgets stagnant, or shrinking less and less hope for

1058
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: their own children, all of those things. So I also

1059
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: thought that was the sort of profoundly interesting comment and

1060
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: revealing comment that she made there too. Well, it's true,

1061
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: and look, I can't find it right now. I was

1062
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: just looking for it. But batcha sargon we've had on

1063
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: the show. She just tweeted out a she teetered out

1064
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Speaker 1: a piece from the New York Times, or they're talking

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Speaker 1: exactly about this, and what they point to specifically is

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Speaker 1: that the world is working. If you are upper middle

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Speaker 1: class and educated in college, specifically a top fifty or

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Speaker 1: so university, your world's actually not that bad for you. You

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Speaker 1: You can buy a house, you have money, you have

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Speaker 1: a decent amount of savings all that. The problem is

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Speaker 1: for the rest of the people who didn't attend or

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Speaker 1: at least graduate a four year college degree institution or

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Speaker 1: are straight up working class. That's like two thirds of

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Speaker 1: the entire country. Zero representation in media, pop culture, economy,

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Speaker 1: democratic elites anywhere, by the way, not in the Republican

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Speaker 1: elites either. Just to be very specific, and that's the problem,

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Speaker 1: which is that when she points to people don't like

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Speaker 1: the world that we're living in, you people run that world.

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Speaker 1: So no, no, no, no, no way. Of course, they

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Speaker 1: don't like the world that you're living in. And even worse,

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Speaker 1: that's why they blame you. People elected Biden for a

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Speaker 1: very specific reason. They thought he's not like the rest

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Speaker 1: of those people. He's so old. He actually is part

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Speaker 1: of that old type establishment and talks in this way

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Speaker 1: that you know, pretended at least to hear us out,

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Speaker 1: and we felt if we had some kinship with the man. Now,

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Speaker 1: obviously he's degraded significantly there over time, and you know,

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Speaker 1: he's rolled out, you know, every once in a while

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Speaker 1: on all of that. But when you put it together,

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Speaker 1: his core strength was I care about people like you?

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Speaker 1: Essentially probably the most significant important question in all of politics.

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Speaker 1: What did we cover more recently in the political poll

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Speaker 1: where they actually tested Biden's personal favorability and whether you

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Speaker 1: like it or not, this stuff matters a lot, and

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Speaker 1: his I Care about people like you had dropped by

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Speaker 1: like fifteen points since the day that he was elected.

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Speaker 1: And for this reason is that people don't feel he's

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Speaker 1: taking responsibility for the main problems within their life, or

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Speaker 1: not even taking responsibility, even pretending to do anything about it.

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Speaker 1: So this is just going to continue to be the

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Speaker 1: pervasive mindset. They could lose like ninety seats in the

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Speaker 1: House Representatives and they would still blame the voters. Crystal,

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Speaker 1: I'm really convinced of that. And they're all praying that

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Speaker 1: Trump runs again. Yeah, they are right because so many

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Speaker 1: democratic elites and cable news pundits. First of all, they

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Speaker 1: got tremendously wealthy, they got famous, they wrote books like.

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Speaker 1: It was great for them personally, but also for someone

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Speaker 1: like Hillary Clinton. Oh, he's this an amazing excuse. When

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Speaker 1: Trump runs, well, you don't have to do anything but say, well,

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Speaker 1: we're not Trump. You know. That's the way they feel

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Speaker 1: about it, is like this gets us off the hook

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Speaker 1: from actually having to deliver anything. And then if people

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Speaker 1: choose Trump, while we just turn around again and blame

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Speaker 1: the voters. It's their fault. They're bad, they're evil. Has

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with us and our complete failures to

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Speaker 1: live up to any of the promises that we've been

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Speaker 1: making for literally decades. To you peoplere PC, Crystal, what

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Speaker 1: are you taking a look at? Well, guys, as we've

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Speaker 1: been discussing, the World Health Organization has officially designated OMICRON

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Speaker 1: as a variant of concern, and it's already triggering travel

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Speaker 1: bands and ruling the stock market. This new variant was

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Speaker 1: first flagged in South Africa and the earliest known case

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Speaker 1: was identified in Botswana, but has now shown up in

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Speaker 1: places as widespread as Hong Kong, Israel, and the UK.

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Speaker 1: Now experts are saying it's way too early to panic

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Speaker 1: about omicron. We just don't know enough to say much

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Speaker 1: about its transmissibility. It's severity how effective the existing vaccines

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Speaker 1: will be in combating it. But there is one thing

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Speaker 1: we can say for certain. The pandemic villains a big

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Speaker 1: pharma and Bill Gates have left us much much more

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Speaker 1: vulnerable to new dangerous variants, potentially keeping us lucked in

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Speaker 1: a cycle of forever pandemic. What do I mean? Well,

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Speaker 1: if you are a pharma exach looking to be as

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Speaker 1: evil and greedy as possible, without giving a single care

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Speaker 1: about human life, what would you do to maximize the

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Speaker 1: money into to your pockets. You'd make a vaccine that

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Speaker 1: actually works, and then you'd sell it nearly exclusively to

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Speaker 1: the rich world at premium prices. The efficacy of the

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Speaker 1: vaccine would lead to high demand and mean that places

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Speaker 1: like the US, Europe, and wealthy nations in Asia would

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Speaker 1: shell out big bucks to secure it for their own population. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: the global South will they'd be more or less priced

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Speaker 1: down of that market, allowing the virus to continue to

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Speaker 1: circulate rapidly and dramatically increase the chances of new variants

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Speaker 1: that make the original vaccine less effective. New variants mean

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Speaker 1: new products and endless profits from a rich world buying

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Speaker 1: up boosters and eventually new vaccine formulations to combat whatever

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Speaker 1: might emerge that leaps the existing vaccines. This, of course,

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Speaker 1: in spite of the fact that taxpayers in some of

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Speaker 1: those rich countries, primarily the US, funded the vaccine technology

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Speaker 1: and development to start with. Now, if you were that

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00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: evil pharma exac, you would see the rich world as

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Speaker 1: your endless piggybank and the poor world as your endless

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Speaker 1: petrie dish, churning out new variants that allow you to

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Speaker 1: cash in on the pandemic indefinitely, effectively using the unvaccinated

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Speaker 1: developing world as guinea pigs for a sort of natural

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Speaker 1: gain of function research on a massive scale. And wouldn't

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Speaker 1: you know it, that's exactly the scenario we're facing right now.

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Speaker 1: Of course, given the gravity of the situation, everyone involved

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Speaker 1: in that heist would need a decent cover story so

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Speaker 1: that public outrage would not spoil their plan. Big Pharma

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Speaker 1: would need a big leaf of generosity to hide behind

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Speaker 1: so that it wouldn't just be blatantly obvious that they

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Speaker 1: intended to say screw you to most of the world population.

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Speaker 1: Enter one Bill Gates. Now, as we've covered before, Gates,

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Speaker 1: with his billions, effectively runs global public health. No one

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Speaker 1: wants to cross him because they do not want to

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Speaker 1: lose access to his dollars, and because he's a famous billionaire,

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Speaker 1: he has an incredibly influential megaphone to drive public policy

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Speaker 1: whatever direction he ultimately chooses. He also happened to have

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Speaker 1: made his billions by building a monopoly through abuse of

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Speaker 1: our patent protection laws, and therefore has an invested ideological

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Speaker 1: interest in patent protections. So rather than advocate for the

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Speaker 1: vaccine formulas to be a global public good enabling mass

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Speaker 1: production at low prices, he instead pushed for the utterly

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Speaker 1: failed Kovax program at the World Health Organization. Now Kovax

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Speaker 1: is truly Bill Gates's baby from start to finish. Two

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Speaker 1: days after COVID was declared a pandemic. Gates was already

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Speaker 1: meeting with twelve different pharma executives to plan the response.

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Speaker 1: A Gates funded nonprofit drove Kvax's creation. It is run

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Speaker 1: by a consortium of Bill Gates funded nonprofits, the World

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Speaker 1: Health Organization, and UNISF Gates personally took a hands on

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Speaker 1: approach in its development. According to The New York Times,

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Speaker 1: Gates personally fundraised for Kovacs from world leaders. He spoke

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Speaker 1: regularly with Fauci, He collaborated with Mitch McConnell, and his

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Speaker 1: foundation gave millions to pay McKinsey consultants to staff the

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Speaker 1: whole effort. I cannot possibly overstate how influential this man

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Speaker 1: is in driving global public health right now, in this moment.

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Speaker 1: His deep industry ties, his money, his access, his star power,

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Speaker 1: they have all made him the unelected dictator of poor

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Speaker 1: country vaccine access. Even the original goal of KOVAS was

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Speaker 1: wildly insufficient. They wanted to fund enough vaccine doses to

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Speaker 1: vaccinate twenty percent of the population in poor nations. Ultimately,

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Speaker 1: they would not even come close to achieving that extraordinarily

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Speaker 1: low achievement, and that brings us to the present day.

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Speaker 1: The new variant was first detected in South Africa and Botswana,

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Speaker 1: countries with thirty five percent and thirty percent of their

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Speaker 1: adult populations vaccinated, respectively. And actually those rates are among

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Speaker 1: the highest on a continent where only seven percent of

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Speaker 1: people are fully vaccinated. That is a crime, a crime

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Speaker 1: that was committed by greedy pharma executives, brokeered by Bill Gates,

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Speaker 1: and enabled by the cowardice of world leaders. Speaking of

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Speaker 1: which Joe Biden has offered more hollow words in support

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Speaker 1: of lifting vaccine patent protections. First of all, pretty late

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Speaker 1: to be pushing for something which should have been obvious

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Speaker 1: from the very beginning. But second of all, his words

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Speaker 1: are just that words. The US has declined to support

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Speaker 1: a vaccine patent waiver proposal put forward by Indian South

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Speaker 1: Africa at the World Trade Organization, failing to put our

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Speaker 1: ample muscle behind a text which has support of one

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Speaker 1: hundred countries, Nobel Laureates, and human rights organizations. The US

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Speaker 1: has also failed to negotiate a new proposal that might

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Speaker 1: replace that existing proposal to move the process forward. And

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Speaker 1: most importantly, the US has also failed to pressure the

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Speaker 1: European nations places like Germany that have been standing in

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Speaker 1: the way of lifting these protections. Biden can say whatever

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Speaker 1: he wants, but his actions have supported the morally unconscionable

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Speaker 1: status quo. Now in desperation, South Africa is actually spearheading

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Speaker 1: an effort to recreate Maderna successful vaccine, trying to use

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Speaker 1: publicly available information to reverse engineer the Maderna formula. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: with companies hoarding the secret technology we US taxpayers help

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Speaker 1: them to create, it will likely take years for the

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Speaker 1: South Africans to be able to crack that code. So

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Speaker 1: here we are, with the disease spreading unchecked in vast

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Speaker 1: corners of the globe, playing Russian Roulette with a deadly pandemic,

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Speaker 1: hoping that the next variant won't send us right back

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Speaker 1: to square one of the pandemic, also that a handful

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Speaker 1: of pharma execs can keep their golden goose forever. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: the most shocking and sickening conspiracy theories are the true ones.

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Speaker 1: As I started to research this, you know we've been

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Speaker 1: covering Bill Gates and an influence. He is even more

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Speaker 1: powerful and influential. And if you want to hear my

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Speaker 1: reaction to Crystal's monologue, become a premium subscriber today at

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Speaker 1: Breakingpoints dot Com. All right, saga, what are you look

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Speaker 1: at that? Well, the most frustrating part about politics today

1236
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: is selective outrage, especially selective outrage where people have a point.

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Speaker 1: A lot of Democrats actually had a pretty good point

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Speaker 1: during the Trump years. Having the president son in law

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Speaker 1: and daughter work in the White House and major sway

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Speaker 1: over US policy is an outright violation of the spirit

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Speaker 1: of anti nepotism laws. That their foreign business entanglements actually

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Speaker 1: were a massive conflict of interest. The problem was, you know,

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Speaker 1: their point evaporates in the eyes of the public when

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden's business dealings are put in the spotlight. If

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Speaker 1: you can't care about both and see that children of

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Speaker 1: presidents like Chelsea Clinton, Hunter Biden, Evanka Trump, and other

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Speaker 1: unsavory figures like Jared Kushner are part of a much

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Speaker 1: bigger problem, you're mostly full of crap and you're a

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Speaker 1: partisan actor. I actually care a lot about Hunter Biden's

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Speaker 1: business dealings with China. I believe strongly that it at

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Speaker 1: least in part has affected or could affect our president's

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Speaker 1: behavior towards China. However, it is also a massive conflict

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Speaker 1: of interest because there's a lot of folks on the

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Speaker 1: right who during the Trump years and now want to

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Speaker 1: turn a blind eye to Jared Kushner's corruption, and so

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Speaker 1: to fully establish that this show does not care what

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Speaker 1: party you belong to if you're corrupt, let's lay out

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Speaker 1: the details. Jared Kushner has apparently been flying all over

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Speaker 1: the Middle East in recent months trying to raise money

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Speaker 1: for a new fund. And he's not just courting money

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Speaker 1: from private individuals. Jared is explicitly trying to get investments

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Speaker 1: from the sovereign wealth funds of Qatar, the United Arab Emirates,

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Speaker 1: and the government of Saudi Arabia. Now this is particularly

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Speaker 1: insane because Jared Kushner actually ran Middle East policy under

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration and was known for having an incredibly

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Speaker 1: close relationship with Saudi Arabian Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

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Speaker 1: So months after the de facto top diplomat to Saudi

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Speaker 1: Arabia and the Gulf, Jared Kushner is now turning around

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Speaker 1: and asking them for tens of billions of dollars to invest,

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Speaker 1: which he, of course will get a hefty cut of

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Speaker 1: for management fees. This is called straight up pay to

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Speaker 1: play corruption. No matter what you think, especially given the

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Speaker 1: fact that Trump is almost certainly going to run and

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Speaker 1: probably win again in twenty twenty four, could honestly be

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Speaker 1: worse than Hunter Biden. Hunter at least does not have

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Speaker 1: a direct role in the Biden administration. I've actually been

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Speaker 1: to Jared Kushner's office whenever Trump was president. It is

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Speaker 1: the closest office in the West wing to the President

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Speaker 1: of the United States for a major aid. And if

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Speaker 1: you consider any of the so called accomplishments of the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration, tax cuts and Jobs Acts, letting people be

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Speaker 1: out of prison, and the Abraham Accords, all three of

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Speaker 1: those had Jared having a personal role in all of them.

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Speaker 1: Per the New York Times reporting, which has not been

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Speaker 1: denied by Jared, the Amiadis, the Katari's or the Saudis.

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Speaker 1: The Saudis are actively considering whether or not to invest

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Speaker 1: in Jared's fund, despite his abysmal business record before the

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Speaker 1: White House. Now, YO, why would Saudi Arabia be keeping

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Speaker 1: their options open to invest in Jared. It certainly ain't

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Speaker 1: because he's a good businessman. And here's the worst part.

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Speaker 1: Kushner is not the only player in Trump's direct orbit,

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Speaker 1: who has been profiting off of his time in the

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Speaker 1: White House. Those of you who watched this un rising

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Speaker 1: might remember when I covered this story of former Treasury

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Speaker 1: Secretary Steve Mnushan pulling the same move as kush sh

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Speaker 1: starting a two point five billion dollar private equity fund,

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Speaker 1: including with money for them the Saudi Arabian government. Mnusian,

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Speaker 1: of course, was probably the second most powerful economic official

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Speaker 1: in all of Washington for four years and months after

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Speaker 1: leaving office, he's patting his four hundred million dollar net

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Speaker 1: worth with money from the Saudis. Even worse, while he

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Speaker 1: was Treasury Secretary, he made it a point to attend

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Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia's investment conference called Davos in the Desert multiple times,

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Speaker 1: only skipping it when they were known as a pariah

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Speaker 1: state for like six months after the murder of Jamalkashogi.

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Speaker 1: He scratched their back while he was in office. They

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Speaker 1: scratch his now. The difference is they're a medieval kingdom.

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Speaker 1: We're supposed to be a representative democracy. Now. What's worse

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Speaker 1: is Mnusian and Kushner both got Secret Service protection for

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Speaker 1: six months after leaving office, meaning that both of these

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Speaker 1: gentlemen were being protected on the government dime while they

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Speaker 1: were leveraging their former office status to raise money from

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Speaker 1: the South to make themselves even more wealthy. Look for

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Speaker 1: the Trump people watching, you should really consider that next

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Speaker 1: time you want to elect a president, you don't just

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Speaker 1: elevate that man, you elevate the coterie of the people

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Speaker 1: around him. Many of you seem to understand that when

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Speaker 1: it comes to Biden, it's not just Biden, right, it's Kamala,

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Speaker 1: Harris and Pete and a bunch of other woke idiots

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Speaker 1: who work for him. Well, the same principle applies under Trump.

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Speaker 1: The president can't possibly run everything, and Trump at this

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Speaker 1: point has proven to have probably some of the worst

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Speaker 1: personnel judgment of any person who's held the office since

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Speaker 1: George W. Bush and yes, on par with Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: These are the people that he personally trusted in government,

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Speaker 1: and by proxy he extended them the public trust. Look

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Speaker 1: at how abuse of that trust to their own personal

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Speaker 1: financial gain is so naked in the open. Keep in mind,

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Speaker 1: in both of these cases, we are already talking about

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Speaker 1: men worth more than one hundred million dollars each. Before

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Speaker 1: they even took office, they could not work a day

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Speaker 1: in their life. If they had to, they'd be completely fine.

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Speaker 1: But that's not enough. They always need more. Now, look,

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Speaker 1: that's fine if you're in business, but when it comes

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Speaker 1: to using public connections to earn even more than it's

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Speaker 1: an abuse of power. Sadly, I know most of the

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Speaker 1: people on the right won't care about this. They have

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Speaker 1: been too conditioned from liberal hypocrisy. And I get it,

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01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 1: But take it from somebody who cares about Hunter Biden too.

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Speaker 1: This type of stuff is poison. It tells foreign governments

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Speaker 1: like the Saudis, the Amorades and the Chinese, our people

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Speaker 1: are for sale. It doesn't matter the administration. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: even matter if it's the guy who chanted drain the

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Speaker 1: swamp when it came to winning the White House. If

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Speaker 1: you really believe in that message, as I did, then

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Speaker 1: you have to care about this type of corruption. And

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Speaker 1: that's the thing, Cristle. I mean, look, it's naked, it's

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Speaker 1: pay to play, there's no other way to describe it.

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Speaker 1: He was friends with the Saudis. And if you want

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Speaker 1: to hear my reaction to Sager's monologue, become a premium

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Speaker 1: subscriber today at Breakingpoints dot Com. Joining us now we

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Speaker 1: have doctor Abdul l Sayad. He is he has a

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Speaker 1: lot of accolades. He is a public health doctor. He's

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Speaker 1: former director of the Detroit Health Department. He's host of

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Speaker 1: a podcast called America Dissected. He's a substack writer of

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Speaker 1: Incision Professor, a CNN contributor, and also a Bernie bro

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Speaker 1: Great to see a doctor, Great to see you, Crystal,

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Speaker 1: of course, So we just wanted you to sort of

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Speaker 1: break down for our audience what we know at this

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Speaker 1: point about omicron. Well, we know that this variant has

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Speaker 1: enriched itself extremely quickly in South Africa. It's country of

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Speaker 1: origin now two weeks from when it was first identified,

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Speaker 1: and Richmond is a fancy way of saying how fast

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Speaker 1: it has become the dominant variant of coronavirus. This is

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Speaker 1: faster that we've seen any variant yet. Whild suggests to

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Speaker 1: us that it's more transmissible, and if you look at

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Speaker 1: the virus itself, that the spike protein, which I'm sure

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Speaker 1: folks have heard a lot about now, this is basically

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Speaker 1: the docking protein where the virus can infect your cells,

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Speaker 1: and it has a number of really concerning mutations on it.

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Speaker 1: In fact, fifty of them borrowing both from delta, which

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Speaker 1: make it more transmissible, and also from beta, which can

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Speaker 1: make it more transmissible and potentially more vaccine resistant. Now,

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Speaker 1: a couple things I want folks to understand. We still

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Speaker 1: don't really know much about how vaccine resistant this variant is.

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Speaker 1: There are studies being done right now to figure that out.

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Speaker 1: And then beyond that, there is no likelihood where it's

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Speaker 1: going to be fundamentally fully vaccine resistant that the vaccines

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Speaker 1: are going to be ineffective. It just may make them

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Speaker 1: less effective. The important thing right now is that it

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Speaker 1: is spreading. It's been discovered now in at least twelve countries,

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Speaker 1: including on our own doorstep in Ontario. The high probability

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Speaker 1: is that if it hasn't gotten here, it probably will,

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Speaker 1: and so we really need to be vigilant about this virus.

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Speaker 1: But nothing fundamentally is different today than it was five

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Speaker 1: days ago before we knew about omicron. You still should

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Speaker 1: be getting your third dose if you haven't gotten it,

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Speaker 1: you should still be wearing masks in public indoor settings,

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Speaker 1: should still be focused on washing up and keeping distance

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Speaker 1: if you can. But this is concerning, and there are

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Speaker 1: several reasons why so I'm curious doctor in terms of

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Speaker 1: the transmissibility and all that, we said, the White House

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Speaker 1: saying they're going to take two weeks. What exactly are

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Speaker 1: we going to be looking for in terms of benchmarks

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Speaker 1: within the virus itself and what are the policy implications

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Speaker 1: of that. Well, I told you a little bit about

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Speaker 1: the transmission capacity and the efficiency with which this virus

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Speaker 1: enriched in South Africa. Now, in South Africa there wasn't

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Speaker 1: a high caseload to begin with at the time that

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Speaker 1: omicron first emerged. What we're going to be looking at

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Speaker 1: is the efficiency of enrichment in other countries that have

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Speaker 1: far higher COVID nineteen, specifically delta caseloads. And as we

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Speaker 1: learn more about the transmission of this, we're going to

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Speaker 1: also want to learn more about the impact of our vaccines.

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Speaker 1: The third question I haven't really quite raised, right, So

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Speaker 1: we talked about transmissibility, we talked about vaccine resistance. The

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Speaker 1: third question I haven't raised yet is severity. There is

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Speaker 1: some circumstantial evidence and yet to be rigorously looked at,

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Speaker 1: but circumstantial evidence that this may not be as severe

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Speaker 1: as delta, which would be ultimately very good news given

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Speaker 1: that the key outcomes that we want to prevent aren't

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Speaker 1: just transmission, but also hospitalization in depths. Those really are

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Speaker 1: the key things, and so we have yet to learn

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Speaker 1: more about this. From a policy standpoint, we should have

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Speaker 1: been doing the things that we should have been doing

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Speaker 1: from a very for aver a while. You know, we

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Speaker 1: can't forget the fact that really about thirty five percent

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Speaker 1: of folks in South Africa specifically have been vaccinated, far

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Speaker 1: less in the seven other countries that have been targeted

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Speaker 1: by the US travel band, and our failure to get

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Speaker 1: vaccines out there quickly gave disinformation a head start when

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Speaker 1: it came to convincing people about whether or not to

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Speaker 1: be vaccinated. And we're seeing, unfortunately, history repeat itself. This

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Speaker 1: is the first time that there has been a pandemic

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Speaker 1: in South after Arica. The first time in recent memory

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Speaker 1: was HIV AIDS, and again our failure to get anti

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Speaker 1: retrovirals out there to equit people in those countries to

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Speaker 1: manufacture their own have dire circumstances. We're seeing the same

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Speaker 1: thing here, and then from a bigger perspective, there are

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Speaker 1: tools that we just haven't used or made good use

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Speaker 1: of in the United States, whether it's genomic surveillance, whether

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Speaker 1: it's mass testing, whether tracing contact, tracing people who have

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Speaker 1: been infected, and we should be doing a lot more

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Speaker 1: of those. And from a policy perspective, getting more people

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Speaker 1: vaccinated in investing in those capacities are going to be critical. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we talked earlier about the continent of Africa. Overall,

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Speaker 1: South Africa has maybe the highest vaccination rate, certainly among

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Speaker 1: the highest overall. The continent has a six or seven

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Speaker 1: percent vaccination rate. There's a lot of problems, but one

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Speaker 1: of them is the fact that these pharmaceutical companies are

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Speaker 1: keeping secret their formulation. So right now there is an

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Speaker 1: effort in South Africa to try to reverse an engineer

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01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 1: Maderna's successful vaccine, and if Maderna would actually help them

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Speaker 1: in that process, they could move that forward a lot

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01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 1: more quickly and have more production capacity so that people

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Speaker 1: could get vaccinated and that the prices would be much

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Speaker 1: lower than they are currently. That's absolutely right, Crystal. And

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Speaker 1: here's the brutal irony of it. When they were testing

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Speaker 1: their vaccine, Maderna tested in South Africa. The fact that

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Speaker 1: they have not given doses to that country and to

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Speaker 1: the region is I think just a moral travesty and

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Speaker 1: an ethical failure. And you're speaking to a bigger point here,

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Speaker 1: which is that we have not, as a society decided

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Speaker 1: that the lives of people are more important than the

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Speaker 1: patents of large corporations. And that is keeping millions of

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Speaker 1: people from getting access to vaccines that we know save lives,

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Speaker 1: that we know are safe and effective, and it is

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Speaker 1: contributing to the speed with which omicron can potentially spread

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Speaker 1: in those societies. And so we have to understand that

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Speaker 1: we are in this thing together. This is a global pandemic,

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Speaker 1: after all, and we need to start acting like it.

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Speaker 1: So so far, from a policy perspective, the President has

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Speaker 1: announced travel ban from South Africa and seven other African countries.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that that's an effective approach from a

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Speaker 1: public health standpoint? Unfortunately, no, This is more, it seems

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Speaker 1: about pr than it is about public health, because these

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Speaker 1: bans are only on foreign nationals. People with US passports

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Speaker 1: are allowed to come through, and as many capacities as

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Speaker 1: omicron has, I'm rather sure that discriminating by passport is

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Speaker 1: not one of them. And so what's happening right now

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Speaker 1: is that people in South Africa with US passports are

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Speaker 1: scrambling to come home and potentially bring Amicron here. And

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Speaker 1: that's not to say that we should be banning our

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Speaker 1: US nationals from coming home. That is to say that

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Speaker 1: we've got to be a lot more thoughtful about our

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Speaker 1: policy when folks get home. Rather than a blanket ban,

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Speaker 1: perhaps we should have been instituting the kind of policy

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Speaker 1: that they've had in New Zealand in Australia for a

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Speaker 1: long time, which is to say, when you get off

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Speaker 1: an airplane from another country, you're going to spend ten

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Speaker 1: to fourteen days in quarantine at an off site location

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Speaker 1: and then be allowed to enter the general population. That

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Speaker 1: is the kind of policy that really can prevent a

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Speaker 1: new variant in frankly COVID generally from entering this country

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Speaker 1: by way of plane. And the fact that we have

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Speaker 1: not done that, and the fact that we are sort

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Speaker 1: of knee jerk reflexing to banning people from a certain

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Speaker 1: part of the world, that we have not done the

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Speaker 1: work of getting vaccines in the first place, that to me,

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Speaker 1: I think is part and parcel of the same kind

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Speaker 1: of unfortunate pr focused reaction that I think has kept

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Speaker 1: us from getting the vaccines where they need to go

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Speaker 1: and unfortunately is probably not going to work to keep

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Speaker 1: omicron from entering our shores. Well, one other question for

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Speaker 1: you on the transmissibility, because I know that was one

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Speaker 1: of the things that really caused concern was how quickly

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Speaker 1: it was able to they said out compete delta. Now,

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Speaker 1: my understanding was that those numbers were fairly small, and

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Speaker 1: as you were indicating, there wasn't a lot of delta

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Speaker 1: to be had in South Africa just because their case

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Speaker 1: numbers were small. Right now, so just talk to us

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Speaker 1: about those numbers and the level of certainty around the

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Speaker 1: transmissibility of this particular variant. Yeah, looks nothing right now

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Speaker 1: is certain. We really ought to step back and just

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Speaker 1: wait for the science to pan out before we make

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Speaker 1: any conclusions about omicron. That being said, obviously, what we've

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Speaker 1: learned about COVID is that you got to act early,

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Speaker 1: and you got to act quickly. I think smart public

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Speaker 1: health based actions are what we need right now rather

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Speaker 1: than pr driven actions. But what I will say is

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Speaker 1: that we'll learn a lot more about transmissibility as omicron

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Speaker 1: starts to spread. Unfortunately, in a number of societies where

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Speaker 1: you do have a far higher transmission rate of delta

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Speaker 1: than you did in South Africa and South Africa, this

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Speaker 1: emerged in a time when COVID cases were relatively low.

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Speaker 1: It did cause a major spike, and it did overall

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Speaker 1: outcompete the other variants rather quickly, within two weeks from

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Speaker 1: when we identified it. But we're going to learn a

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Speaker 1: lot more as we watch this spread in other European

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Speaker 1: countries and unfortunately probably our own and where we do

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Speaker 1: have significant delta spread, that efficiency is going to be

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Speaker 1: put to the test. That being said, if you do

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Speaker 1: look at the biomechanics of this virus, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of reason to believe that the capacity for transmission is justified.

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Speaker 1: But we'll be learning more and the science is yet

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Speaker 1: unclear on this particular variant. Well, I really appreciate you

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Speaker 1: joining us. Doctor actually really helps in terms of me

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Speaker 1: wrapping my own head around it. I hope it'll help

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Speaker 1: the audience. So thank you very much, sir, appreciate it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me absolutely all right, everybody, thank you

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01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:41,919
Speaker 1: so much for watching. I hope you had a wonderful

1532
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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving holiday. Was really just great to be back, and

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Speaker 1: really I was just thinking about how awesome it is

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Speaker 1: to have done this show. You know, we're coming up

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Speaker 1: on exactly six months since Weena, which is crazy, crazy

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Speaker 1: for that to be the case. You guys showed up

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Speaker 1: for us in a big way, and we continue every

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Speaker 1: single day after the show talking about the big plans

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Speaker 1: that we have here. If you can help us with

1540
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Speaker 1: those plans, we deeply appreciate it. Premium link is down

1541
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Speaker 1: there in the description. It's not just about the benefits

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Speaker 1: and all that stuff that we offer you. It's about

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Speaker 1: how we can create the best show and spread the

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Speaker 1: up for the midterms. We're just getting started. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: is absolutely right. All right, We love you guys, have

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Speaker 1: a great day. We'll see you back here tomorrow. Tomorrow.