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I 37 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: will know he's giving me advice on many occasions. In 38 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: the case you didn't notice, I'm not broke, you know 39 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: He'll be interview with celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs, and industry decision makers. 40 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: It's what he likes to do, it's what he likes 41 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: to share. Now it's time to hear from my man, 42 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald money making Conversations. Here we come. Welcome to 43 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: money making Conversation. I'm laughing because I'm your whole I 44 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: can laugh, cane up because I'm with a good friend 45 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: on the show that they feel thought. But let's get 46 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: the show started right. It's time to stop reading other 47 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: people's success stories and start writing your own. I say 48 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: that every time this show starts and always tell people 49 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: to leave with their gifts. Some people call their gifts 50 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: their passions. And if you have a passion, don't let 51 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: your age, friends, family or coworkers stop you from planning 52 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: a living your dreams. My interviews that I do on 53 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: money Making Conversations of the CEO, celebrities, entrepreneurs and industry 54 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: decision makers. My next guest is an industry decision maker. 55 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: His name is Phil Thornton. His music industry's the music 56 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: industry executive, television producer, don't sleep on that, and senior 57 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: vice president general manager of r C A Inspiration r 58 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: C Inspirations, the number one label and gospel Music Home, 59 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: the Kurt Flanker, Bam Fred Hammer, the Walls bro the 60 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: Walls Group, Landrew Johnson, and many many more. And we're 61 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: gonna talk about that because I'm gonna pull out this 62 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 1: press release. The Just Stella Awards and so many people 63 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: that actually because rename the show the Provident Entertainment Awards. 64 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: That's what they struld rename it. Show all these folks 65 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: out there jamming up there. But he's also a member 66 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: of the National Museum of African American Music. Uh, He's 67 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: a board member, and that's important. We talked about that 68 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: because the museum is dedicated to reserving and the celebrating 69 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: the many john Is created influence inspired by African Americans. 70 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: The museum is located in Nashville and were featured special 71 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: trick of feature in Black Music Month, which is the 72 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: month of June and present coveted right raps of the 73 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: Rhythm Awards to the Fish Jubilee Singers and Line Richie 74 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: and Smokey Robertson and Quincy Jones and Shaka can get 75 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: you know if your old school, like when you gotta 76 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: say shock a name twice because feelware so many hats. 77 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: There are plenty of words that can be used to 78 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: describe music industry executives like him and television produces like him. 79 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: For there's only one two words to describe. And when 80 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: I see him, and because he's a dear friend of mine, 81 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: I called him the man. Please work with the money 82 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: making conversations, dumb man, feel thing well, the man, the man. 83 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: I gotta bring the man back. You know, you know, 84 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: you know we met Mary, you came down. We had 85 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: a nice meal. Actually I moved. I bought a building 86 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, man and um one acre lot and just 87 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: h expanding on the opportunity. He's a more into television production, 88 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: producing to television series currently, you know, expanding in the talent. 89 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: But one of the things I always appreciated you, and 90 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: I think that what what you really liked about me 91 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: was the ability to multitask. And you do a very 92 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: good job of that field. You've always done that well. 93 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: Talk about that that ingredients because a lot of people 94 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: fail because they don't understand. They get I gotta do 95 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: this one thing and focus on this one thing. That's true, 96 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: but you have to be able to do many things 97 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: while you're focusing on that one thing. Tell us about 98 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: that fielding you gotta. I mean, to me, it's all 99 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: about multitasking. I love music, I love television and film 100 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: as well. But I've been fortunate, Rashan to have great partners, 101 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: you know, every steps on on the label side, I 102 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: have a great team that supports me, which makes life 103 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: much easier there. And then for my television and film productions, 104 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: A partnered with various production companies to just kind of, 105 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: you know, make sure things are moving with excellence and 106 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: on time. And so you know, it's really about just prioritizing, delegating, 107 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: and just working with people that you know, share that 108 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: same heart and dash. And that's that's very true, because 109 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: but the key is feel. You know, I'm put the 110 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: word put another titler on visionary, okay, because you have 111 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: to see things that other people don't see, and sometimes, 112 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: you know, we we take that for granted because you know, 113 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: I always love the fact that when I look at 114 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: my life, you know, you know, when I was branding 115 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: Steve Harvey, the word branding wasn't popular. You know, it's 116 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: just something I just did naturally. And so when I 117 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: used the word branding a branding expert, that's you. When 118 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: you were visionary as a person who sees things. He 119 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: sees talent, and he takes that talent into his fold. 120 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: And guess where they become stars or they become or 121 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: they they they've lost their way. And you said, hey, 122 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: come work with me, and I think we can we 123 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: can do something together. That's a visionary. How is it 124 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: when you look at talent. That's why I called my 125 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: boy Will Packer. You know when he came on the show, 126 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: I said, Will Packer, Man, you know when we were 127 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: doing act like Think Like a Man. And you know, 128 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: because Steve Harvy that when we sold the book to 129 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: screen Jams, we envisioned that to be a white movie. 130 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: We really did. And so Will Packinson. Now, man, I 131 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: got this guy named Kevin Hard, and I knew Kevin Hart, 132 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: you know, but I didn't know Kevin Hard like he 133 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: was pattioned about Kevin Hart. And so that was a 134 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: visionary who basically launched Think Like a Man, basically launched 135 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: step Kevin Hard's career. And also out of the same movie, 136 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: Um John legend hit came out of that, and so 137 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: so the two major players in the music genre and 138 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: the acting comedic drama blew up because of his vision 139 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: and his association, you had that same ability, whether it's 140 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: new talent or talent that's been established, or talent to 141 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: look for a new vibe in their life. Talk about 142 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,239 Speaker 1: how you look at these different challenges that people present 143 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: you from a talent standpoint. Shout out to my brother, 144 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: Will Packers, that's my that's that's my brother, good friend 145 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: of mine. But yeah, I mean on the talent level, 146 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: it's it's just certain indescribable quality. You know, over when 147 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: I meet talent that I never want to be the 148 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: one to outwork talent. So when I see and hear 149 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: that passion, that commitment, that clear vision, that they see 150 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: it as well. And I'm more so of a person 151 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: that's becoming an executor of source by having a talent 152 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: that really really has a clear picture of who they 153 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: are person foremost, and that's always important and and and 154 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: again I may amplify what they say and what they envisioned, 155 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: but it's important for the talent to have a true 156 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: clear vision of who they are. Like, I don't want 157 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: you to just do something because I think it's great. 158 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: I want you to basically have that foresight and that 159 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 1: vision and I'll come in, like said, amplify take it 160 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: to another level. But I look for authenticity. I look 161 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: for just you know that that work ethic and just 162 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: being clear on your purpose and this is really your 163 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: This is really your purpose. Because not everybody wants to 164 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: be an actor should be an actor, or everybody wants 165 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: to be a singer to be a singer. So making 166 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: sure that your purpose in your passion are intersecting, and 167 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: but making sure that you're also authentic and there's something 168 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: about you that will connect with people, and that's what 169 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: people look for. Well, it's the Stellar Awards shows that 170 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: you're you. You're dealing with authenticity. You know, when you 171 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: look at the fact that the thirty six annual Stellar 172 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: Awards and profitent Entertainment celebrates twenty three nominations for the 173 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: thirty six annual Stellar Gospel Music Awards, with ten artists 174 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: nominating in seventeen categories. Do you what do you come on? Now? 175 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: You know your room crowded? Now your rooms crowded. Now 176 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: just the nominations alone, your rooms crowded. The room was crowded. 177 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 1: Grateful we got some you know, we think twenty three 178 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: nominations ship, well, Michael Jordan's ship. So I'm feeling think 179 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: about that what I'm saying, you know, but I can 180 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: always I got wrong on the mantel that I'm looking 181 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: at my mantel now, and some Stellars and some Manage Awards, 182 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: and some of we gotta always make wrong. I'm just building, 183 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: come on up. But the three thing. I brought that 184 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: up because you know, one of my favorite people care 185 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: shipped Kelly. I gotta put Kelly on there because you're 186 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: mad at autists of the Song the Year, Albertina walk up, 187 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: Female Artists of the Year, Album of the Year. Uh, 188 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 1: coming to your contemporary female artists a year. When I 189 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: look at Mally Music, Marvin Seth, Donnie mcclerk and All 190 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: Nations Music, Travis Green, who I love to death, you know, 191 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: Landraw Johnson, Corene Hawthorne, Melvin cris Bel and KB. Now 192 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: when I gotta go back up to Travis Green because 193 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: he's a special talent, because he has a crossover audience, 194 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. And when I interviewed him and 195 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: UH a couple of years ago. And then I look 196 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: at Donnie, said, Dunnie mclerk And I've been doing Donnie 197 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: mccirklands since since two thousands, and we fall down, which 198 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: which which put him in another stratosphere way back in 199 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: two thousands, we falled down. So then you look at 200 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: Marvin Seth, you know, his back to back singles. He's 201 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: doing syndicated radio on Sundays weekend show. So all these 202 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: people are different. And then you have this young thirty 203 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: three year old kid, Sheered Kelly. You know who's out there? 204 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: Madley music? Who? Who? Who? When you talk to him 205 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: on phone, you're talking, You're talking like your friend. You know, 206 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, don't you know? You know? Because people get 207 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 1: that word gospel, they think they're talking to somebody who's 208 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,599 Speaker 1: gonna hit him upside the head with the Bible. And 209 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: that's same thing with Travis Green. You have these people 210 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 1: all just real people, man. I think that's what you 211 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: use when you say the word authentic, that's what you're 212 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: talking about. Yeah. Absolutely, man, you gotta thinking about it. 213 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: They yes, all of them love God. They have that 214 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: in common. They've been called to do this, but they 215 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: know more people like you or not. I literally just 216 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: had a meeting with with our mutual Frank Kirk Franklin 217 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: right before this, and you and I both over. Sarah 218 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: Kirk is one of the most down to earth people 219 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: you know there is like he's gonna give you a 220 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: scripture if you need a scripture, a positive word. But 221 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: he's a regular brother that's going through you know, things 222 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: like you and I so mean but again so but 223 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: same thing with Travis, which, by the way, we got 224 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: a new single you heard it here first from Travis 225 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: Green coming out at the end of June with Travis 226 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: featuring Kirk Franklin and John p Key. So that's that's 227 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 1: gonna be a big record for Travis Green. So we 228 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: come on that the North Carolina bar Right, that's right, 229 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: Charlotte Solotte, that's right. He got me, got me going 230 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: back in my roots now with John that's taking you 231 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: back right there. Tell Travis Rashaan wants him on the 232 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: show the end of June. Just tell Travis Green, that's 233 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: my boy. I gotta have you know bender absolutely And 234 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: so when I when I look at the whole thing 235 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: and that reason, I'm just slowing it down a little 236 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: bit because we all on the show to talk about 237 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: you being a board man. We only show to talk 238 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: about the National Museum African American music. But gospel is 239 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: such a key component to that music, to that genre, 240 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: and so many people come out of gospel that supports 241 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: the rest of the genre of music that's at these 242 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: at your African American Museum. What where is gospel at? 243 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: You know, we come out of COVID where I'd like 244 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: to believe faith was reinforced in especially with the civil 245 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,599 Speaker 1: unrest with with George Floyd. And you know, the anniversary 246 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: is coming up this month. Unfortunately of his one year 247 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: of death, murder or whateever name you want to put 248 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: it definitely wasn't right. And uh, fortunately the first police 249 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: officer has been indicted and then we're up this summer 250 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: we'll find out how long he will be imprisoned or incarcerated. 251 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 1: So where is gospel music at? Because you know, you 252 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: have hip hop went out there exploded. You know, you 253 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: always have R and B, and then you had fusion, 254 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: you have jazz. Where is gospel music in that landscape? 255 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: Or uh, popularity or revenue tours all those things. Nowhel 256 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: music is uh, it's continues to grow stronger than ever. 257 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: Like I mean, we had a record breaking year then 258 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: for our division, So I mean, you know, great releases 259 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: from care is shared and you know Karin Hawthorne having 260 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: you know, airplay on both the R and V and 261 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: the Gospel Station's Kirk Franklin had three number one singles, 262 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: one of which was a gold single and Love Theory. 263 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: So I mean it was a record setting year for 264 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: US as a division, but also the genre as a whole. 265 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: I mean, people like Jonathan McReynolds and Tasha cop Leonard 266 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: from you know my Competitors and also you Got You've 267 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: Got Maverick City Music. I'm sure you're familiar with them. 268 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,479 Speaker 1: That that's the new wave right now. They're doing tremendous 269 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: things in the gospel realm as well, so really the 270 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: future looks bright. A lot of our partners at Spotify, Apple, Amazon, 271 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,479 Speaker 1: pandor et cetera are seeing that this is an underserved 272 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: community that but that that constantly shows up, you know, 273 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: with the minimal resources they've applied. So now they're starting 274 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: to really you know, ramp up more personnel and more 275 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: creating more opportunities on platform and more real estate for 276 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: gospel music, which is encouraging because they also see the 277 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: global coortunities for gospel. We're seeing a lot of growth 278 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: in Africa and Brazil in the UK, so it's just 279 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: it's really continues to just grow and grow and seeing 280 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: cross genre collaborations, people like Kanye doing gospel and you know, 281 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: Justin Bieber just had a gospel album, just continue chance 282 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: to wrap a holy I love that cup, I love 283 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: that cut. Then yes, yes much right with Shaunder, gospel 284 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: continues to be you know, current relevant and and we 285 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: see I mean even hr the singer her who just 286 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: one who's won four Grammys in Oscar just a few 287 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: weeks ago, She's got a gospel song that you know, 288 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: we put it out through our division. So again we're 289 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: seeing a lot of our mainstream artists really paying homage 290 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: to their roots and and and unapologetic about their faith, 291 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: which is extremely important. So we're just like I said, 292 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: we're seeing the catalog grow year over year, but we're 293 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: also seeing the new artists continue to have a lot 294 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: of opportunity and generate revenue extreames. Well you know, you know, 295 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm one of those guys. I'm a big thinker. You know, 296 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: when I see Travis Scott go down in Houston do 297 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: his Astra World concert and then sell out in a 298 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: couple of hours and ten thousand people buying tickets, and 299 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: they don't they only have a line of just buying 300 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: tickets on faith that can we get that in gospel? 301 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: Can we get can these young stars? Can we can 302 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: we get that energy where there's a huge way they 303 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: can fill up you know, Philadelphia Football Stadium. It can 304 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: the future get there? I know we tried it with 305 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: the Three Kings when Donna mcclarg and Kirk and and 306 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: uh and Marvin sapp about ten years ago. What can 307 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: we get there? Then? Can they Jonathan McReynolds and all 308 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: these talents that I think, can they get on the 309 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: stage and generate ten fifteen thousand people showing up? Am 310 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: I asking too much and making that statement? I didn't 311 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: know what? I think It's absolutely possible. I think Jonathan U, 312 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: Karen Hawthorne, There's a few artists that immediately come to 313 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: mind that could really uh be a catalyst said that, 314 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: But I'm telling keep your eyes on that Maverick City Music. 315 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: I've been watching their momentum and they're independent, you know, 316 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: they're they're independently young and you know, targeting a young 317 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: multicultural audience what you know as God as you know 318 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: target at eighteen to twenty four demo they just announced 319 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: the tour. I think it was like fourteen cities a 320 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: few weeks back, sold out in four days. 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Well, 357 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: let's get back to why I brought you on. Man. 358 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: You know June his Black music, mak You know, we 359 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: know the advertisers, they've they've taken note of that they 360 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: want to spend money doing Black music math and the 361 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: big celebration in Nashville. Why Nashville for the National Museum 362 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: of African American Music, Nashville, Tennessee music city, right, that's 363 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: what they call so but I'm the Detroit up there. Yeah, yeah, 364 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: atant you know, it is a big coined music city. 365 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: So it's just it's it's so appropriate that the museum 366 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: should be open here. I mean, we opened it, you know, 367 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: the soft opening was back during in January doing MLK 368 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: weekend and since then, you know, it's been open, you 369 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: know for weekends, and we've now expanded it to open 370 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: Wednesday through Sunday. But this June Black Music Months celebration, 371 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: it's like the super Bowl, but the muse in like 372 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: this is that's what it is. And so it's super exciting. 373 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: I mean, we've got the Legends Gala on you know 374 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: that Thursday, the yeah, you know, honoring some of the legends, 375 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: I mean Quincy Jones and Lionel Ritchie and Smokey Robinson, 376 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: Miss Shatka Kha. I'm gonna say that was that was 377 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: the first forty five I had on my breakfast place. 378 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: I feel for you, so shout out to Miss Shakakhan 379 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: and then the fifth two police singers. So that's the 380 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: Legends Gala. And then on that Friday, you've got a 381 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: series of panel discussions what we're calling the State of 382 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: Black Music. So so I mean we're talking about everything 383 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: from sports and music, the fashion of music, to business 384 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: and music. And also you know we're gonna be doing 385 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: Our Lives podcast, say the Black Music podcast hosted by 386 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: Yours truly. Um, So that's happening on that on that Friday, 387 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: and then Saturday is the Big Black Party and June 388 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: Team celebrations. So it's so much happening in Nashville, Tennessee 389 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: at the museum. I'm just excited and I just encourage 390 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: everybody to come out and see this momentous institution. Let's 391 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: talk about this shot. I knew you're on my show, 392 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: but it sounds like you should be on Good Morning 393 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: to America. Sounds like you should be on today's show 394 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: right now. Seriously, you know this is the this is 395 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: your music city. Okay, this ain't motor said You're in 396 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: music city. This is the this is the National Museum 397 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: of African American music. You talking about when you said 398 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 1: when you got to the black part that was going life? Okay, okay, 399 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: where who else know about this? I'm trying to get it. 400 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: I'm excited, So I'm saying that why can't I why 401 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: can't you be on Good Morning America talking about this? 402 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: Where's the press on this? Man? What's who? Does anybody 403 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: see what I see? Here? Field? You know? Man? I 404 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: see big Man? You CBS, I'll say, CBS This Morning 405 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: has been a great support of the museum. They're actually 406 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: working on doing another feature to highlight this wonderful uh 407 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: we celebration that we have coming up. So but they've 408 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: been super supportive. We love CVS and hopefully you know 409 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: all friends of g m A has show us some 410 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: love and the Today's Show because that's because that's Father's 411 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: Day weekend, right that that June. Yeah, because it's on 412 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: a Sunday, so that June team, So I mean it's 413 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: but you know again, it's it's if you can't make 414 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: it on that Sunday, we're not doing it Sundays off 415 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: or even if that Saturday you can't make it, but 416 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday, it's it's gonna be so much and 417 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: so many great people you can, you know, learn so 418 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: much amazing information and meet and network and you know, 419 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: just think about what what do you know a celebration 420 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: where they honor in Quincy Smokey Lion on and shot 421 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: and releasing is that's just iconic, that's I mean some 422 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: of the great and so I'm super excited about what 423 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: we have. But again here in Nashville, Tennessee, let's call 424 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: music city. Well, you know something you've sold me feel 425 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: actually yourself? Why are you just teasing anyway about that? 426 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: But the thing I just love about it because I 427 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: get so excited and watching your brand. You know, I 428 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: feel the thing about it. I always talk about your brand. 429 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: I feel your special talent. I happen to be in 430 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: the room where you were honored by the legends and 431 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: that was a special night. And uh and you're many 432 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: more personal honors coming your way. But how did you 433 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: get involved with the National Museum African American Music? How 434 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: did that come about as a board member. I was 435 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: a good friend of mine. She just was telling me 436 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: about the museum maybe five years ago, and facilitated an 437 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: introduction with Henry Hicks, who's our you know, president of 438 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: CEO of the museum. And when I met Henry, I 439 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: guess he felt that passion my love for music and 440 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: black music, because black music, be clear, is American music 441 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: when you think about every genre, it was like black people, 442 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: African Americans. I played a significant role and the creation 443 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 1: um not always demonetization, but the creation has been UM 444 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: started with us. And so he felt that passion in 445 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: that conversation. And you know, they voted me on to 446 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: the board, like I said, almost five years ago, and 447 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: I've been rocking since, did a lot of fundraisers, um 448 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: you know Sony. I was you know, pretty instrumental in 449 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: Sony's financial gift that they donated a few months back. 450 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: So really, this is something that is so much Rashan 451 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: there and I had to be a part of it 452 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: because beyond the actual institution, I think about the education initiatives, 453 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: what we can do on elementary all the way through 454 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: college and scholarship opportunities, and these are things that we're 455 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: absolutely implementing now. And so that's the you know, for 456 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: the museum to be beyond the institution. And I wanted 457 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: to be a part of that narrative, that storytelling and 458 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: and you know, Adam and doing my part of it 459 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: that music is. You know, I'm old enough to have 460 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: done that forty five single, the little forty five A 461 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: and B side, and I always remember that, uh, you know, 462 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: and then I went to the eight track, okay, and 463 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: I thought that was been a cassette. And then you 464 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: you know, we all had that long playing album, you know, 465 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: but then then all of a sudden that the CD 466 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: came out, and then and then all of a sudden 467 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: it became digital. And so now I'm in my car 468 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: can look at you know, any type of genre of music. 469 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: I can make my own station if I wanted to. 470 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: How is that play out for the artist? You know? 471 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: Because you have independent individuals got there, they can start 472 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: their own labels. It's just a different game out there. 473 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: And sometimes I don't even know. I'm experienced in the 474 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: game feel and I don't even understand it. What what what? 475 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: What technology or what knowledge do you have to bring 476 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: to the game or or it's always a constant learning 477 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: club for you feel throwing in the music business today, 478 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: it's constantly a learning curve always. That's how you continue 479 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: to be great, like because you know it was it's 480 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: as you mentioned. I mean, it's evolved over the years, 481 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: and so when I think about now, even with n 482 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: f T and bitcoin and everything happening with that movement 483 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: with the music industry, that's the next wave of of 484 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, how music is going to be shared and 485 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: and monetized. So you have to be a continue to 486 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: be a student. I'm a student. I listen, I talked 487 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: to my peers. I'm talking not only to the to 488 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: the other CEOs and like my Sylvia Own and John Platt, 489 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: but I'm also talking to this younger generation to see 490 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: what's the new, what's now, what's next, because you can 491 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: learn so much, so much. Hi everyone, Al Rooker here, 492 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: as a guy with his own catchphrase, I appreciate that 493 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: Smokey's only said only you can prevent wildfires, But I'm 494 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: filling in because there's a lot more to report, like 495 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: when they're parched, their windy conditions out there. You gotta 496 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: be extra careful with things like burning yard waves. 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I discover the forest 516 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: dot orgon brought to you by the United States Forest 517 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: Service and the Council. Well, you know now I need 518 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: to know about the museum. You know when miss spawning 519 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: and when it opened up in uh Washington, East African 520 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: American Museum lines You couldn't get in because they told 521 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: us exactly what that experience was going to be about. 522 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: You know, you told us about the block was happening 523 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: on third was having on Friday block party on Saturday. 524 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: You know what is the museum experience when you walk 525 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: through that front door? Is it two floors? It's in 526 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: a basement. How many square footage? Let's let's take our 527 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: time because I want you to be as visual and 528 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: let's have fun with this because we're walking through African 529 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: American history, music history here, Phil. I want I want 530 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: to take our time. I want to have fun with this. 531 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: Next this next question the museum and the museum is uh, 532 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: how many floors is it? How many square fee? You know, 533 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: just just walk me through the front door, man, and 534 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: like you just the tour guy. Oh, I got visio, 535 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,959 Speaker 1: I got people who listening to the show. I got 536 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: people watching the show. So you really got to be creative. 537 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: So the people listening, they gotta feel like they're walking 538 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: with you. The people who can see you, they gotta 539 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: feel like, Man, I can actually see that that that 540 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: that billy, that that saxophone, I can see that guitar. 541 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: I can see it all, I can hear it all. Yeah, 542 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: it's it's when you walk into this beautiful space on 543 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: Fifth and Broadway, Nashville City downtown. You see instruments when 544 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: you first walked through the door, and some other great 545 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: artifacts wardrobe from some of your favorite artists. But then 546 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: you actually the tour starts um in our Roots Theater 547 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: where we kind of show you a ten minute movie 548 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: on just the origin of Black music and it's evolution 549 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: over the years. You immediately exited the Roots Theater and 550 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: the first gallery that you enter is the Wade in 551 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: the Water Gallery, which is our gospel gallery. Uh. It's 552 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: so super impressive because everyone knows the music started with 553 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: spirituals at him hymns and gospel music is the foundation 554 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: of all genres of music, so you started the gospel. 555 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: Then it goes into the Blues gallery. Uh, then Jazz 556 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: and I mean just to see some of the artifacts 557 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: and the awards. Remember Bill, you're from some of your favorites. 558 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: And then you go into the One Nation Under Group, 559 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: which is an R and B gallery, which is probably 560 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: one of my favorite galleries, and just seeing everything from 561 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: history about Motown records and stacks and Billy International I 562 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: means so much history, but also you'll see some of 563 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: your favorites, you know, like your your Mary J. Blige 564 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,479 Speaker 1: and Erica Batdo was highlighted in there. So it's I mean, 565 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: it takes you on a musical journey, um. But also 566 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: you have these great interactive experiences within each gallery, so 567 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: you can actually on your wristband that you have on 568 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: against the museum, you can actually add you know, playlists 569 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: from some of the favorite artists that you may discover 570 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: in the museum. And you know, there's an interactive in 571 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: the Gospe Gallery where Dr Bobby Jones and you can 572 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: sing in the virtual choir. But in the R and 573 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: B Gallery you can have a dance off, uh, you know, 574 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: to some of your favorite music. And then the museum 575 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: concludes with our hip hop gallery, which is really one 576 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: of my favorites as well, because I mean you can 577 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: you can actually record a freestyle, you can make a 578 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: bet in there. Uh, you can rhyme too some of 579 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: your favorite songs. And again at all those are your 580 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: wristband that you get to save as a you know, 581 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: kind of a souvenir. Electronically everything is sent to you. 582 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: But so much history in there, again covering you know, 583 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: gospel blues, jazz, R and B and hip hop. So 584 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: it's super impressive, all fifty six thousand square feet of 585 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: just excellence in history and musical bliss. You know the 586 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: fact that you started with gospel, you're in with hip hop. 587 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: You know, I think it's it's a phenomenal. And then 588 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: I see and let's just expand the whole conversation to 589 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: see how blacks have finally been recognized in country and 590 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: western country music. I should say country music, it's been 591 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: we're finally getting recognized. We're not a fluke. And so 592 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that we including that. I'm just saying 593 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: that we finally started to get recognition about our contribution 594 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: the eacht genre. But we're putting that arto together. There 595 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: had to be some heated debate in the room. Do 596 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: we start with gospel, did we end with hip hop? 597 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: Did we do jazz? Did we do R and B? 598 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: Come on, come on, tell me about that room before 599 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: we go, because you know, come on, now, come on 600 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,959 Speaker 1: hip hop. I know somebody to say hip hop. They 601 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: can't because they can't say that him word. I know. 602 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: It was some debate for them oldies when it can't 603 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: hip hop. It was there was some spirited discussions, and 604 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: I was a part of them because I raised some 605 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: of those questions. But I gotta tell you, but I 606 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: gotta celetate this time to celebrate the amazing historians. It 607 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: was about a dozen, about twelve thirteen historians and ethno 608 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: music cologists that worked really, really hard, Rashaan on the 609 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: storyline for the museum. And you had to start with gospel. 610 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: That's where it's started so musically, I mean, but they did. 611 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: This is you're talking about years upon years of research 612 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: and you have some of the best and the brightest 613 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: to just know about music and so but you can't. 614 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: But you know, we gotta acknowledge where it started gospel, 615 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: and we also got to acknowledge where it is now 616 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: hip hop. And I will tell you country, you know, 617 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: I know they're working on some special exhibits and there's 618 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: been a number of country artists. You know, Darius Rucker 619 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: is one of our national chairs. You know, Kane Brown 620 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: actually celebrated at the opening, uh soft opening during MLK 621 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: weekend and Willie Jones. So again, country is very much 622 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: part of the storyline, and we're doing more to expand 623 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: it because we need to make sure the country as 624 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: well as rock and roll. I mean a little Richards 625 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: and I mean, you know so many people that you 626 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: know represented throughout the museum. I really can't wait for 627 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: you to see June next week, so you know coming. 628 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,959 Speaker 1: Come on, So where did you go to college that man? 629 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: To get all this knowledge? Man? What school did you 630 00:33:54,160 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: go to? North? You going on? Now see proud graduate. 631 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: This is the whole thing. I'm going through the resume 632 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: and many times I interviewed you, I've never know said 633 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: it's born from Norfolk State hp TU and we never 634 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: talked about that on the doing the end of you 635 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: Now you know, you know, and that's my home, that's 636 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: home for me. Norfolk is home, so d A is home. 637 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: I was actually I was hanging with Ms. Elliot the 638 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,479 Speaker 1: other day in Atlanta. We were catching up at dinner 639 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: and we were just talking about how grateful we are 640 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: to be from Virginia. Just we learned so much forget 641 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: Norfolk State and that s the whole degree, ain't gold? 642 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: Come on, before we last thing, I want you to 643 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: talk about the values of attending to HBCU and high 644 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: has made you the person you are today. Feel Thorn 645 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: tell us about being attending in HBCU one of the 646 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: absolute best experiences in my life. I will I will never. 647 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: I don't regret. It was one of my dreams. I 648 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: as a child, I used to watch a Different World 649 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: and my mom allowing, you know, allowed me to watch 650 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: School Days. So after watching both different World School Day, 651 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: I was like ball and the experience is like no other. 652 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: The community, uh just whether it's just students or even 653 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: your professors, but the party and I was also great 654 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: in the football game, the football basketball game, the tailgate, 655 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 1: the fraternities and the sorority shout out to the noops. 656 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: You know what I means, bringing two thousand you know 657 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: what I mean, That's that's what it is. Got outside 658 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that. But but but it was no 659 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: it was the best, one of the best experiences. I 660 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 1: learned so much. I've met some amazing people that I'm 661 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: still in contact with to this day. But it was 662 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: just and just it felt like such a like I 663 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: didn't want to leave. I know I had to leave, 664 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: but it's just like I really didn't want to because 665 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: of the community and just the bond. I mean. Pharrell Williams. 666 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: Pharrell used to come to Norfolk State to hang out 667 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: with me on the yard because he was just and 668 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: and all, just the whole college lifestyle and said you 669 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: should have wrote here. But he used to come to 670 00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: hang out with me, and when I used to do 671 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: college radio, we'd hang out and just the student union 672 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: because it was just such a great energy and it 673 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: was positive and you know, just love it. Man. Thank 674 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 1: you as always when you come on my show, Field Thorn. 675 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: You know, I just had to. I said, Man, I've 676 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: been this boy been on my show three times. We 677 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 1: hadn't brought up his hpc U experience. We got to 678 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: knocking out because it's because you know, black music monk 679 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: coming up, he about to be board member. You know, 680 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: we gotta know why your blacks come from. Now we know, 681 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: Phil Thorn. Thank you for coming on Money Making Conversation, brother. Absolutely. 682 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: If you want to hear more or see any of 683 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 1: my interviews, please go to Money Making Conversation dot com. 684 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: I'm Sean McDonald. I am your host. 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