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Speaker 2: Yesterday on the Pat McAfee Show, Aaron Rodgers talked about

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Speaker 2: his future with the Steelers and the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is it. You know, that's

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Speaker 3: why we just did a one year deal. You know,

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Speaker 3: this was really about finished and with a lot of

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Speaker 3: love and fun and peace for the career that I've had.

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Speaker 3: I've played twenty freaking years. Yeah, like it's been long,

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Speaker 3: a long run. I've enjoyed it, and a better place

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Speaker 3: to finish than in one of the cornerstone franchises of

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Speaker 3: the NFL with Mike Tomlin and a great group of

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Speaker 3: leadership and great guys in the city that you expects

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Speaker 3: you to win.

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Speaker 2: I don't have any problem with this. I mean the

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Speaker 2: Rogers news I rarely react to. Thought he was going

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Speaker 2: to go to the Steelers. Thought he was going to

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Speaker 2: wait as long as he could. Didn't know that he

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Speaker 2: got married. Maybe that was the reason why he wasn't

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Speaker 2: showing up. You want to do a victory tour, great,

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Speaker 2: I have no problem with that. Steelers, I'm sure would

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Speaker 2: want to know this that this doesn't become a week sixteen,

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Speaker 2: week seventeen.

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Speaker 4: Are you coming back? Are you coming back?

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Speaker 2: Now? It's still going to happen. Let's say Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: plays great. Let's say the Steelers maybe a number two seed,

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Speaker 2: number three seats. Let's say they overachieve. Let's say they

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Speaker 2: have home field advantage first round of the playoffs. You're

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Speaker 2: going to ask that question. You're gonna ask that question,

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Speaker 2: and he might give you a different answer. He might say,

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Speaker 2: I love it here, I love playing for Mike Tomlin,

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Speaker 2: I love my offense. You know, I'd love to run

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Speaker 2: it back one more time. I wouldn't rule it out,

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Speaker 2: certainly with Aaron Rodgers, but he's earned the right. You

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Speaker 2: want to have a victory tour?

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Speaker 5: Great?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Marvin, how far do the stealers need to go before?

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Speaker 6: If you're Mike Tomlin or if your management say, hey, Aaron,

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Speaker 6: do you want to give it one more go?

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Speaker 2: I would say, well, how about you do something you

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Speaker 2: haven't done a long time, win a playoff game. If

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Speaker 2: you would win two playoff games, then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's a foregone conclusion. Aaron walks away,

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Speaker 2: but it's Aaron Rodgers, and you just don't. Oh, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I covered. I'm friends with one of the great mysterious

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Speaker 2: athletes in sports history, and Barry Sanders, and I'm working

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Speaker 2: Sports Center on a Sunday night the Lions just lost

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Speaker 2: end of their season, and his agent, Peter Schaeffer calls

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Speaker 2: me and says, you can't say anything, but and I went, oh,

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Speaker 2: don't do this to me. Barry is on a plane

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Speaker 2: to London. He's going to retire out of nowhere.

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Speaker 4: So is Aaron mysterious like that?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 2: But there is mystery attached to him. You know, Barry's

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Speaker 2: most unique athlete I ever covered. You know, frugal.

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Speaker 4: You know he ran.

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Speaker 2: To make highlights, but his personality wasn't that way. His

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Speaker 2: personality was three yards, but his running style was sixty yards,

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Speaker 2: making you know, seven guys miss. But with Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 2: you know he wants to play this year, and that's

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Speaker 2: it great. I you know, bigger picture, more important to

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Speaker 2: me is Mike Tomlin. Because Mike Tomlin and the Steelers

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Speaker 2: signed up for one year, they had to know that

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Speaker 2: it was one year, and he gave him a bargain price.

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Speaker 2: Now you're back in the quarterback wishing well again. And

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Speaker 2: this is what I wonder. Do you want him for

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Speaker 2: one year or are you going to try to And

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Speaker 2: maybe they didn't like these quarterbacks. Maybe they didn't like

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Speaker 2: any of these other quarterbacks. But you're back in the

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Speaker 2: mix again. And if you're still looking for a quarterback, man,

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Speaker 2: are you behind a lot of teams, all of these

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Speaker 2: teams that we talk about, what do they have in common?

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Speaker 2: Very good, if not great quarterback?

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Speaker 4: Steelers?

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Speaker 2: Are we going to go through the Mason Rudolph, Hey,

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Speaker 2: you know what, he learned a lot from Aaron.

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Speaker 4: Rodgers or Will Howard.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're going against Lamar Jackson and you're going

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Speaker 2: against Joe Burrow in your own division, you know. So

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Speaker 2: it's one year. So that's why I wonder, is Mike

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Speaker 2: Tomlin one more year? And look, I know, the national

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Speaker 2: perspective on Mike Tomlin is a whole lot different than

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Speaker 2: the local perspective because this is a team, this is

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Speaker 2: a franchise, this is a fan base expects to win,

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Speaker 2: not a playoff game, compete for championships. And I wonder

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Speaker 2: if if they go out like they don't win another

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Speaker 2: they don't want a playoff game, you know, then you

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Speaker 2: start to look at this and say, do we need

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Speaker 2: a change. And I wonder, with Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin,

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Speaker 2: maybe they go out same time?

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Speaker 4: Maybe?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 2: Eight seven to seven three DP show email address Dpadanpatrick

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Speaker 4: Yes, Paulie, you to.

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Speaker 7: Talk about the Rutgers guys and the Duke guys in

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Speaker 7: the draft to night? Yeah, the best I could find,

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Speaker 7: and I got to keep looking. But the nineteen eighty

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Speaker 7: four draft Sam buy of Kentucky second, Jordan's third of UNC,

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Speaker 7: Perkins fourth of UNC, and then Mel Turpin sixth.

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Speaker 4: The Kentucky Dinner Bill Mill, Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Dinner, Bell Mel for the top six picks. Okay, but

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Speaker 8: we're we're still looking. I was actually at that draft.

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Speaker 8: I should note that should have remembered. I forget a

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Speaker 8: lot of things. I should remember that I remember a

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Speaker 8: lot of things I should forget. Christian in Denver joining us,

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Speaker 8: So I Christian. What's on your mind today?

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Speaker 1: Hey?

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Speaker 9: Patrick? Love your show, longtime listener, Love everything you usually say.

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Speaker 9: I gotta blew a pushback with you, and kind of wonder.

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Speaker 9: You talk a lot about said Nuggets winning that championship

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Speaker 9: because of their deep bench, and I'm just wondering who

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Speaker 9: that deep bench was. We had that the krayle of kids,

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Speaker 9: Jeff Green not a big dude, Grisian Brown was a rookie,

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Speaker 9: and then obviously we at Bruce Brown. But what's this

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Speaker 9: depth that you're seeing on the from the bench thirty

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Speaker 9: minutes from Brown on an average. But besides that, what

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Speaker 4: How did they do after they lost those guys off

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Speaker 4: the bench?

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Speaker 9: Well, they didn't lose and they got Christian Brown went

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Speaker 9: into the starting lineup, Jeff Green's been non existent, Peyton

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Speaker 9: Watson is filled in, So now Westbrook not great. I

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Speaker 9: agree with that, Peyton Watson coming off the bench. I mean,

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Speaker 9: what's the difference there?

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Speaker 5: Why?

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Speaker 4: Why is it? Why is it? Joker is saying he

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Speaker 4: needs depth.

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Speaker 9: Two different things that you're saying there. Right, of course

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Speaker 9: he needs death and especially now with the new rules,

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Speaker 9: with the second and third aprons and this awful contract. Reporter.

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Speaker 9: But I continually hear you say, and I think I

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Speaker 9: take you as Bible. I mean, I'm down with you,

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Speaker 9: but I think this is a bad take with with

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Speaker 9: our That bench wasn't a rookie. Christian Brown and Bruce

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Speaker 9: Brown cowboy Bruce was awesome if we could have kept them,

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Speaker 9: but we couldn't offer him any more than three million

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Speaker 9: a year. Are not exist it catch Jordan Thomas, Bryant,

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Speaker 9: Ish Smith, Reggie Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Well, something proves my point. If you guys don't get

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Speaker 2: back to the NBA finals. There was something about that

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Speaker 2: roster that helped you win a championship that these rosters

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Speaker 2: are not going to help you win a championship.

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Speaker 9: I agree with you, wholeheartily, but that do you really

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Speaker 9: believe that that that Bruce Brown was the reason why

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Speaker 9: we won the championship or was because Joker went on

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Speaker 9: a heater?

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Speaker 2: All you need is contributions one or two or three.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's it's not a well that bench like

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Speaker 2: Indiana Pacers. That's the best bench we've ever seen in

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Speaker 2: postseason history. The numbers bear that out. I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: Denver's bench was like that. I'm saying they got contributions.

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Speaker 2: They didn't get contributions that match that. And you still

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Speaker 2: have the same people in place. So what changed with Denver?

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Speaker 2: Aside from firing your coach with a couple of weeks

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Speaker 2: of his career and it didn't matter.

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Speaker 4: Right, correct, So something changed?

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Speaker 2: He had his best year, You still had Porter, you

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Speaker 2: still had Aaron Gordon, you still had Jamal Murray.

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Speaker 4: And what happened.

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Speaker 9: We took a chance to Game seven and we didn't

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Speaker 9: have a bench. Westbrook and Peyton watching.

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Speaker 2: No, that's what I keep saying, get a bench. That's

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Speaker 2: why I keep saying you didn't have a bench. I

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Speaker 2: said it was malpractice. I said at the beginning of

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Speaker 2: the year, Christian I said, this is malpractice. You did

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Speaker 2: not give Joker depth. You didn't give him a bench.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for the phone call. I said that to

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Speaker 2: start the year, they gave Michael Porter Junior the third

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Speaker 2: that stupid contract.

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Speaker 10: Yes, but the year twenty twenty three, Michael Porter Junior

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Speaker 10: was nomenal for them, so of course you pay him.

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Speaker 10: He I mean, they're sort of Big three if you will.

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Speaker 10: Air quotes in twenty twenty three were phenomenal.

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Speaker 4: They were elite.

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Speaker 10: They carried them to that championship. And while the bench

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Speaker 10: may have been were good, they weren't like the They

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Speaker 10: didn't carry them, you know. But I think what's gone

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Speaker 10: wrong is Jamal Murray hasn't been the guy that he

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Speaker 10: was that year. Michael Porter Junior wasn't the guy that

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Speaker 10: he was that year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well they don't have a bench. If they did,

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Speaker 2: then Joker would have said, Hey, I love the depth

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Speaker 2: we have. I love the roster we have. That's what

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Speaker 2: he said, you know, after they were eliminated. His exit

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Speaker 2: interview had to do with we need depth. Depth is

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Speaker 2: your bench? Depth is not necessarily your fourth or fifth starter.

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Speaker 2: I mean it helps, yes, smart and.

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Speaker 6: After they won the championship. That off season, they lost

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Speaker 6: Reggie Jackson, their backup point guard. They lost KCP, and

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Speaker 6: they lost Bruce Brown. So that's read big contributors off

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Speaker 6: of that championship team. So and KCP could play back then, correct?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, I once again, if you want to stand

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Speaker 2: by management and what they're doing in Denver, good luck.

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Speaker 6: You're not going to win another title. Not going to Yeah, Mark,

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Speaker 6: And also when they want I want to take something back.

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Speaker 6: When the Nuggets won a championship, I thought Nikola jokicch

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Speaker 6: was in Dirt Naviski territory where he was on scholarship,

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Speaker 6: and I was wrong because Dirt Novitski was not considered

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Speaker 6: the best player year in a year out in the NBA.

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Speaker 6: So it's not like, oh, how can Dirk only win

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Speaker 6: one championship? No, no, No, everybody's happy. You want a championship. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: but if you're Nikola Jokitchen, you're the best player, you

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Speaker 2: He's more likely to win another MVP than he is

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Speaker 4: Just that's the truth.

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Speaker 2: And I would hope that they surround him because you

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Speaker 2: Yannis ain't gonna win another title in Milwaukee.

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Speaker 4: And he knows that.

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Speaker 2: The question is do you want to uproot your family

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Speaker 2: nobody wants to come to Cleveland. I'll go Miami, I'll

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Speaker 2: I'll get your title. I'm gonna go to the Lakers.

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Speaker 4: I get it. You know it might be watered down.

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Speaker 2: We may not look at it the same that Mike

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Speaker 6: We're never happy because to me, in the NBA, either

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like, oh, you chase the bag.

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Speaker 2: I remember when Kevin Garnett would he would get criticized

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Speaker 4: We didn't value loyalty. We were critical.

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Speaker 2: He went to the Western Conference finals one year. But

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Paul, A little bonus coverage to end the segment

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Speaker 5: Dan.

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Speaker 7: The two thousand and seven draft, Greg o' and Ohio

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Speaker 7: state number one, Mike Conley number four out of Ohio State,

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Speaker 4: Of Florida, Al Horford Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've come up with the nickname for Cooper Flying.

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Speaker 2: We'll run it by Jay Billis. He's the great arbiter

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Speaker 2: of Oh. Now you know, I'm gonna say we until

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Speaker 11: Hi, this is Jay I'm the producer of the Pauli

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Speaker 11: and Tony Fusco Show. Usually in these promos they asked

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Speaker 1: Wha, what the hell are you doing in our studio?

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Speaker 12: Get him, Pauline, Ignore that fool.

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Speaker 2: Jay Billis ESPN NBA College Basketball analyst. Do you guys

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Speaker 2: know that Jay Billis was drafted? Now, this is before

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Speaker 2: they it was just a two round draft, Paulie.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, nineteen eighty six. We looked it up and the

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Speaker 7: draft was seven rounds back then, and Jay picked by

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Speaker 7: the Dallas Mavericks pick number one oh eight in the

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Speaker 4: What was that night like for you, Jay?

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Speaker 5: I think it was about two am when I got drafted.

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Speaker 4: Did you go to camp?

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Speaker 5: I did? Yeah, I went to rookie camp with the Mavericks.

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Speaker 5: I did. I went to rookie camp two years in

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Speaker 5: a row, and in fact was never cut by the Mavericks.

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Speaker 5: I went over to Italy before Veterans Camp before cuts

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Speaker 5: Keith Grant was later became the GM. Rick sund was

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Speaker 5: a guy that drafted me. But years later, when I

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Speaker 4: Cooper Flag.

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Speaker 2: It feels like if he was an NFL draft prospected quarterback,

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Speaker 2: we would have negatives attached to him, right, We just

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Speaker 2: do that with quarterbacks. I haven't read anything really negative

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Speaker 2: about Cooper Flag. I mean, is he that perfect of

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Speaker 5: way more talented scorer. You know, we knew. I think

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Speaker 5: I think he can tighten his handle up and become

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Speaker 5: it's really rare to find a player that checks so

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Speaker 5: many boxes like he's. He's arguably better defensively than he

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Speaker 5: He's just a he's really a complete player at just

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Speaker 2: And also the situation he's going into a lot of

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Speaker 5: It works for him because he's going to be around

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Speaker 5: You know, he splits defenders. He can read well. His

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Speaker 5: They're fifteen and seventeen, they're eight and ten in the

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Speaker 5: That's possible because he's the best. He's the best shooter

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Speaker 5: barely older than Cooper Flag, really really young. But there's

435
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 5: some question marks. You know, people say maturity canceled some

436
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 5: workouts stuff like that, which might not have been the

437
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 5: most professional thing to do. I don't have a problem

438
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 5: with him not going to workouts. You'ren't going to want

439
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 5: to go to workout and you're content being drafted a

440
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 5: little lower. That's fine, it's your money. But if if

441
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 5: you schedule a workout, you should show up for it.

442
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 5: And a couple, you know, maybe once or twice, didn't

443
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 5: do that, and I think that gets people a little

444
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 5: little nervous.

445
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 2: And I'm wondering this strategy behind this, because it feels

446
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 2: like there's strategy that Ace Bailey's not going to go

447
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 2: to Philadelphia. There's certain teams he's not going to work

448
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 2: out for, and I don't know if that means they

449
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 2: are still going to draft him, or does he want

450
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 2: to land with Washington or Brooklyn or is somebody going

451
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,199
Speaker 2: to swoop in and say, hey, we can get a

452
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 2: bargain here.

453
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 4: What do you think the logic is here?

454
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 5: I don't really know. I've heard that's the logic that

455
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 5: he'd rather go to a place like Washington or New

456
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 5: Orleans or or Brooklyn. But that's a lot of money

457
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 5: you're giving up just by you know, from three to

458
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 5: six or you know, who knows, maybe it goes number

459
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 5: eight that that can happened. I don't I don't have

460
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 5: a problem. Look, if you want to give up the money,

461
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 5: that's his business. I don't you know, I don't care.

462
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 5: Do whatever you want, but but your point is correct,

463
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 5: Like that doesn't stop Philly from taking him at number three.

464
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,199
Speaker 5: If he's the most talented player. I'd take him if

465
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 5: you if you're convinced that he's the most talented and

466
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 5: he's the sort of has the most upside, and he

467
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 5: does at that spot. He's got the most potential. But

468
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 5: it's one of these risk reward things. So you hear

469
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 5: people say, well, you know, he's one of those dangerous

470
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 5: guys that if you take him and it doesn't work out,

471
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 5: you get fired. And if you don't take him and

472
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,959
Speaker 5: he turns out to be a great player, get fired.

473
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 5: And you're like, well, I mean, I don't know what

474
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 5: to tell you. You know, it's the old Hyman Roth

475
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 5: line from The Godfather. This is the business we've chosen.

476
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, you got the you got that pick. If

477
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 5: you take him, don't take him, you know, but everybody's

478
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 5: got a chance to get fired.

479
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 4: Jay billisaid.

480
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 2: The mother Ship Draft coverage starts at seven eastern on ESPN,

481
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: eight o'clock on ABC. We came up with a nickname

482
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 2: for Cooper Flag. You ready I'm ready.

483
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 5: Okay.

484
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: He's from Maine, and we thought the rarest of lobsters

485
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 2: is the white lobster, so he would have his logo

486
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 2: of a lobster. So he's the white lobster.

487
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 5: Wow, that's interesting. And I noticed you said we, uh

488
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 5: so you have collective credit. That's so profoundly stupid. It

489
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 5: sounds like Polly came up with it.

490
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 11: Wow.

491
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right.

492
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 5: He did.

493
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 4: Nailed it.

494
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 2: You know, you know, profound stupidity quick when you hit it. Yeah, yeah,

495
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: he's right there. You head on it right away. So

496
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 2: the white I was listening to it, so white lobsters. Yeah,

497
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 2: I was trying to take a little bit of credit there,

498
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: but then I wasn't going to take any blame.

499
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 7: Yes, Paul Jay, let it marinate a little bit. Don't

500
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 7: be so rushed to make the decision.

501
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 4: The white lobster.

502
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, well yeah, marinate a little butter sauce. I do

503
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 5: you know he has been called the main event.

504
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

505
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 5: Malika Andrews asked him about it, and he said, well,

506
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 5: I like it. I just can't imagine somebody calling me

507
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 5: that to my face. And you know, being a duke guy,

508
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 5: he's probably called a lot of things to his face

509
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 5: that he doesn't mind, but I don't know if we

510
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 5: have to force it. Like I was just up in

511
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 5: Maine at a charity event, and he's a god there.

512
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 5: Like if he walked down the street right next to

513
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 5: Taylor Swift, people would knock Taylor Swift over to get

514
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 5: to him. Oh, that's how big of a deal he

515
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 5: is in Maine. And it's really pretty remarkable that that

516
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 5: sort of quiet state. They're obviously incredibly proud, but he like,

517
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 5: I don't think I've seen anything quite like that. The

518
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 5: entire state. All they talk about is Cooper flag. And

519
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 5: I couldn't walk down the street without getting Cooper flag questions.

520
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 5: It was really kind of amazing.

521
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 2: Okay, I want you to close your eyes and just

522
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: envision this with the upcoming season. Kevin Harlan with the

523
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: call the.

524
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: White Lobster is on a roll.

525
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 6: He's just put it in the biscuit again, a seventeen

526
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 6: four running.

527
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 4: The Hawks want to talk about it. This This is

528
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 4: the NBA on TNT. Now you can open your eyes.

529
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm unmoved. I don't see that. I don't see

530
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 5: that sticking. Ok I do have a I was asked

531
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 5: a trivia question recently that got my head scratching. The

532
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 5: last American born white player to go number.

533
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 4: One overall, Ken Benson.

534
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 5: Very good? That was off the top of your head?

535
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 5: Or here do you research that? Well?

536
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 2: How am I doing? You just asked me the question.

537
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: I didn't know the question before to do my research. Well, yeah,

538
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: but if I wasn't listening when you heard this, if

539
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 2: I would have looked it up, you know, like thought

540
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 2: about it.

541
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 5: But when I was asked a couple months ago, I

542
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 5: was scratching my head going back. But Ken Benson is

543
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 5: exactly right. I went toward Bill Walton.

544
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: But I follow the game a little closer than you do,

545
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 2: especially college. Yeah, okay, I mean Mark Gallery I think

546
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: was drafted by the Bullets, wasn't he?

547
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 5: No, he was drafted by the Denver Nuggets. He went

548
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 5: number sixteen overall. Did he play for the Bullets, so

549
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 5: he went to the Nuggets. Did he eventually play for

550
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 5: the Bullets. Yeah, he was traded to the Bullets and

551
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 5: still lives in the Washington area. Lives in Bethesda. Now.

552
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and his daughter, one of his daughters really

553
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 2: good in college, I think.

554
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, his daughter, Bella was an All American at Princeton

555
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 5: and was the fifth overall pick of the Dallas Wings

556
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 5: and the WNBA Draft. And now she's a she's my

557
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,959
Speaker 5: goddaughter now an assistant coach at Georgetown.

558
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, has the nil era been good for college basketball?

559
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 5: Yeah? It certainly made it more honest, I know, some

560
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 5: of the old school coaches don't like it, and the

561
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 5: NCAA is still, you know, fighting the idea of calling

562
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 5: athletes employees. They don't want to do that, but it looked,

563
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 5: you know my stance on this, This has been professional

564
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 5: sports for a long time, and they've been violating federal

565
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 5: anti trust law by limiting the players. They're still violating

566
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 5: it with this new settlement. But at least the new

567
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 5: settlement gives the NCAA some time to come up with

568
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 5: a framework that's going to work long term. And that

569
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 5: is either going to be, in my view, collective bargaining

570
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 5: with the players or going to Congress and asking Congress

571
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 5: to make this House Settlement into law for them. But

572
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 5: it's not going to look exactly like the House Settlement.

573
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 5: I can't imagine a scenario where Congress says, yes, we're

574
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 5: willing to limit the players, but coaches, you can still

575
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 5: make ten twelve million dollars and we'll call this, we'll

576
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 5: call this to day like that. Everybody's going to be

577
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 5: limited if if that, if Congress comes in, but it

578
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 5: buys them some time to actually, you know, get this

579
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 5: thing right. But what it's doing, Dan, I think it's

580
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 5: keeping more players in school longer, which is what the

581
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 5: system says they've always wanted, you know, believe in education.

582
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 5: They're getting more education, and the schools are benefiting because

583
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 5: they're getting more years of service their out of their

584
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 5: player assets. So I don't think it's it's anything but

585
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 5: a good thing. And the players are becoming not only

586
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 5: financially literate, they can they can have generational wealth from

587
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 5: this if they do it the right way. You're still

588
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 5: going to have some players that blow the money or whatever.

589
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 5: That's going to happen. But I think it's nothing but

590
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 5: a good thing. They just have to figure out the

591
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 5: structure of it to make it work for everybody.

592
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: We were reminiscing of players we thought, coming out of college,

593
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: we're going to be Hall of famers.

594
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 4: Like Glenn Robinson. We just thought that guy can't miss.

595
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: There were certain guys where you go Okay, that guy

596
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: is going to be incredible. Give me the guy that

597
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: you whiffed on. There you go, that guy is going

598
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: to be a Hall of Famer.

599
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 5: That I whiffed on. Well, I thought Odin was going

600
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 5: to be really good, and I do think it was

601
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 5: because of injury. I just don't know of any teams

602
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 5: that wouldn't have taken him number one, you know, seven,

603
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 5: Maybe there might have been one or two. And I

604
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 5: don't remember a whole lot of us talking heads shaking

605
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 5: our fists saying this is crazy, you have to take

606
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 5: Kevin Durant. There might have been some of those, but

607
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 5: I don't remember very many. But yeah, that was a whiff.

608
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 5: And that's that's probably one of the things that this

609
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 5: is my twenty third draft, and I think when I

610
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 5: first started doing it, I probably arrogantly thought, after doing

611
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 5: all this work that I knew, you know, I know

612
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 5: that whether this player is going to be good or not,

613
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 5: and maybe having my first draft be the Lebron draft

614
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 5: where you did know. But you know, now I believe

615
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 5: certain things. But you know, everybody that nobody knows, like,

616
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 5: you know, hands up all those that thought that Shay

617
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 5: Gilgers Alexander when he was taking eleventh overall, was going

618
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 5: to be an MVP, or when Nicola Jokic was taking

619
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 5: and during a Taco Bell commercial. We were in commercial

620
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 5: and it was a Taco Bell commercial, and he got

621
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 5: drafted in the forties and now he's considered the best

622
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 5: player in the world. We don't know. You do the

623
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 5: best you can, and you have players you like and

624
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 5: players you question, and some of the players you question

625
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 5: turn out to be great, and some of the players

626
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 5: you like turn out to be less than that. It's

627
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 5: a weird process. But we're going to look back this

628
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 5: year and say, how did we miss on a Sir

629
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 5: Newel or stuff like that. You know that's going to happen.

630
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: To the former Dallas Maverick. Great jay billis more of

631
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: Jay tonight where he probably drops in white Lobster. I'm

632
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: just guessing right now. I'm just guessing there is a

633
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: casual mention of the white Lobster tonight. And you do

634
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: only have to give credit. You can take all the

635
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: time wants. You can take credit less it blows, unless

636
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: it blows up completely.

637
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 5: I'll know. This was Paula's thank you Jay, Thank you always.

638
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: That's Jay Billis covers college basketball for the Mothership. It's

639
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: a two night affair and starts at seven eastern on

640
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: ESPN and then eight eastern on ABC. All right, so

641
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: we put it out there, White Lobster take Swings. Get

642
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: the B fifty two s to do Rock Lobsters his

643
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: theme song.

644
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 5: You know we're on it.

645
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if people signed up for

646
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: the Greek Freak, you know when that happened, the Stifled

647
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: Tower with Rudy Gobert. Oh, that is that is a

648
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: great that's a great nickname. Not my favorite player, but

649
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: that's one of my favorite nicknames.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Poet, I found an article from the Milwaukee Bucks.

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Speaker 7: Nobody's really sure where Greek Freak came from. It came

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Speaker 7: around early in his career. But even he doesn't know.

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Speaker 7: We're looking too that.

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Speaker 2: We'll take a break. We'll get some phone calls here

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Speaker 2: coming up. Did the NFL do something bad? Did they

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Speaker 2: get caught doing something bad with their owner? That's coming

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Speaker 2: up top of the hour.

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Speaker 1: Back after this, be sure to catch the live edition

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Speaker 1: of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern

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Speaker 7: Paul so our pithy NBA Quiz brought to you by Maco.

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Speaker 4: Wait a minute, we need some music.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it's nice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's coming back with NBC's coverage of the NBA

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Speaker 2: with Michael.

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Speaker 4: Jordan with Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's NBC's coverage of the NBA with Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 10: Is that more NBC's coverage of Michael Jordan with the NBA?

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Speaker 4: All right, Paul Okay?

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Speaker 7: Who is the youngest NBA player ever drafted? The date,

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Speaker 7: their age the night they were drafted.

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Speaker 2: For instance, Mike Lebron is younger at being drafted than

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Speaker 2: Cooper Flagg, isn't he?

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Speaker 7: Yes, Lebron James is eighteenth all time in age the team. Yes,

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Speaker 7: there's a lot of guys. Lebron was eighteen years and

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Speaker 7: one hundred and seventy eight days old when he was drafted.

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Speaker 7: Cooper Flag is eighteen years and like one hundred and

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Speaker 7: eighty one. What about Luca Luca? I don't have him

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Speaker 7: in the top twenty.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: You know who I think was super young, Jermaine O'Neill.

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Speaker 10: He was I think he was really see seventeen.

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Speaker 7: Jermaine O'Neill is in the top ten. He is actually

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Speaker 7: second all time.

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Speaker 4: Good call, Sanna O'Neil is a youngster.

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Speaker 7: Jermaine O'Neil seventeen years, two hundred and fifty six days.

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Speaker 7: There are only three players that were in their seventeens

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Speaker 7: when they were drafted, So you got.

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Speaker 4: One of them, okay, Dwight Howard.

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Speaker 7: Dwight Howard, No, he was in his eighteens. Marvin Kobe

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Speaker 7: Kobe is correct. Kobe is third all time, seventeen years,

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Speaker 7: three hundred and seven days.

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Speaker 4: We're missing Numeral who know.

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Speaker 7: I'm not going to give you a hint yet. Some

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Speaker 7: other candidates. Tracy McGrady was eighteen, Amir Johnson was eighteen.

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Speaker 7: Oh a bunch of other like players. Al Harrington went

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Speaker 7: to Pacers eighteen all right. Andre Carolinka was in the

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Speaker 7: eighteen Andre Carolinko Darryl Dawkins one of the first eighteen

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Speaker 7: year olds draft. Okay, this guy was seventeen years and

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Speaker 7: two hundred and forty five days old when he was

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Speaker 7: drafted by in the two thousand and five draft. He

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Speaker 7: was a tenth overall pick by the Lakers.

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Speaker 4: Oh yes for him.

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Speaker 7: Andrew Biden, Andrew Biden is correcked. Seventeen years, two and

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Speaker 7: forty five days. He had eight seasons in the bigs.

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Speaker 7: He average eleven and seven. He had a couple of

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Speaker 7: good years. Never got there.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't he part of the reason why Kobe wanted to

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Speaker 2: go to Chicago? Like didn't he want to get away

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Speaker 2: from Andrew Binam.

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Speaker 6: Among other things?

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Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, yeah, like Kobe was ready to go to Chicago.

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Speaker 7: That was our first week on air. That was our

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Speaker 7: first week on Yes, that was October two thousand and seven,

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Speaker 7: our first week of I have the rundowns. The entire

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Speaker 7: week we spent talking about the rumors that Kobe Bryant

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Speaker 7: would be traded to the Bulls, and the sticking point

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Speaker 7: was Ben Gordon. Yeah, Ben Gordon, it's a different time.

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Speaker 4: Dang uh.

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Speaker 2: Dylan in Michigan. Hi, Dylan, went's on your mind today?

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Speaker 13: Hey all, first time, long time five eleven one eighties.

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Speaker 13: First off, I'd like to thank you guys for all

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Speaker 13: the good times, witty interviews and amazing you know what content.

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Speaker 13: And second would be really cool, I get a birthday

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Speaker 13: shout out for my dad Kurt, who passed away a

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Speaker 13: couple of years ago. He is and was and always

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Speaker 13: will be a fan of you guys.

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Speaker 2: Happy birthday, making dreams come true.

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Speaker 4: It's all about content. Ton Don in Iowa, Hi Don,

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Speaker 4: what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 11: Dan?

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Speaker 12: Six two one fifty saw Hey Dan? Hey, I was

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Speaker 12: just you guys are talking about your most uh some

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Speaker 12: loyal players. I was wondering, who, you, guys is most

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Speaker 12: loyal player that you've ever seen for any sport. Uh

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Speaker 12: My top three would be Joe Mauer, Mike Trout and

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Speaker 12: then Jerry West.

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Speaker 2: Well, it depends on when you're talking about loyalty. You

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Speaker 2: know what do you what are you equating that too?

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Speaker 2: Because I remember Tony Gwynn could have made more money

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Speaker 2: by acting like he wanted to leave the Padres, but

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Speaker 2: I remember him saying, look, I don't want to go anywhere,

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Speaker 2: and the Players Association goes no, no, no, you got

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Speaker 2: to jack up you know, salaries here and he didn't

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Speaker 2: want to leave a cal Ripken with the Orioles. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: playing your entire career, a lot of guys didn't have

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Speaker 2: the opportunity to play elsewhere like you were a lot

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Speaker 2: into teams and you can call it loyalty now, I

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Speaker 2: don't think Jerry West was going to go, hey, I

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Speaker 2: want to be traded to the Knicks. Uh, but I

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Speaker 2: remember Tony Gwynn and uh Cal Ripken, Yes.

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Speaker 4: Marv modern Air, you probab see Dirk. Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: He might have looked around and said I might not

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Speaker 2: win a title and uh leave. But you know that

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Speaker 2: one time you win that one title with that team,

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Speaker 2: I mean, never ever ever forget you. Yes, I'll throw.

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Speaker 7: Out a loyalty guy. And it's weird because he's played

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Speaker 7: for a bunch of teams.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 7: I remember walking in one day here and Kevin Durant

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Speaker 7: quietly signed a second contract with Okcah. The guy just

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Speaker 7: won like his second straight scoring title, could have gone anywhere,

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Speaker 7: and we came in. He's like, oh, he just signed

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Speaker 7: a new flor.

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Speaker 4: He had his a little backpack round remember that day?

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I did the show that day he

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Speaker 2: did the show, Remember I hosted.

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Speaker 4: You know, he had a little backpack on. I went.

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Speaker 4: It's like he was just stopping in.

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Speaker 2: He goes, uh, you know, I'm just sign a contract

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Speaker 2: act extension. All right, see you later. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 2: to the mall. I'm gonna go to the Lids store

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Speaker 2: and get my get my hat,