Speaker 1: I can hear him, I can hear Lance, I can
Speaker 1: hear lady. What is the shirt? Uh? This is my
Speaker 1: I wish I was still on vacation shirt. Oh man,
Speaker 1: it's really great. Tell me about your vacation, because I
Speaker 1: saw a couple of pictures. Where were you? What have
Speaker 1: you been doing? Well? We went to Florida, Miami. We
Speaker 1: took the kids so they could stay with grandma, and
Speaker 1: then I took my family to Cayman Island, which was awesome.
Speaker 1: Never been um, and so that was really nice. But
Speaker 1: then we just got back from Italy. We had a
Speaker 1: wedding and Sorrento awesome. And so how long were the
Speaker 1: kids in Florida with grandparents? Um? For five days? And
Speaker 1: of course the five days that we're in Cayman that's
Speaker 1: when they started taking their first crawl. Like, really, you
Speaker 1: choose these few days? Do you do? You have twins?
Speaker 1: I do? Yeah, I have a word. That's so great.
Speaker 1: At the same time, it was crazy because you know,
Speaker 1: she was sitting up for a while, he wasn't doing anything,
Speaker 1: and then finally shod one little crawl, and then probably
Speaker 1: twelve hours later he was crawling because he's like, nope,
Speaker 1: I am not falling by Oh my god. Well, now
Speaker 1: you're entering the whole new stage, which is terrifying. I know.
Speaker 1: I remember being so excited for my son to crawl
Speaker 1: because it was like progress, you know, something new, and
Speaker 1: then entering the new stage, which was horrifying, which is
Speaker 1: suddenly everything on the ground is something they can put
Speaker 1: in their mouths and something that's going to kill them.
Speaker 1: And I was like constantly aware of, like that little toy,
Speaker 1: we gotta clean that up, we gotta pick that up,
Speaker 1: or they're gonna put that in their mouth. It's babies
Speaker 1: always have the first thing to do is want to
Speaker 1: eat it. Yes, if it's a door knob survival man,
Speaker 1: they gotta keep you every week. You are all just
Speaker 1: selling this parenthood thing. I can't wait to start. This
Speaker 1: sounds amazing. Wow, I do. I do want to properly
Speaker 1: introduce our guest, but I should also properly introduce our show.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Danielle Fischel, I'm right
Speaker 1: or Strong, and I'm Wilfredell, and I'm so excited about
Speaker 1: our guest today. You know who he is because he
Speaker 1: was in the nineties most popular boy band and yes,
Speaker 1: I said it. Yes, I'm I'm sticking with it. There
Speaker 1: is no argument. But in SYC is the most popular
Speaker 1: boy band. I would I would throw it down. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I know him better as being truly my first
Speaker 1: real love and his name is Lance Bass. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the podcast. Thanks for having me, guys. I'm so excited
Speaker 1: I've been listening to your shows. It is brought back
Speaker 1: so many great memories. I actually I do you visited
Speaker 1: our set a couple of times? Do you have any
Speaker 1: specific memories of of being on set? Uh? You know,
Speaker 1: I was just like really cool, you know I was.
Speaker 1: I was so intimidated because you know, that's a whole
Speaker 1: different world from the music industry, So being on a
Speaker 1: set for the first time was your set um. Just
Speaker 1: seeing how everything moved was incredible. Um. And I was
Speaker 1: also kind of jealous because y'all really had so much
Speaker 1: fun with what y'all did too, So I was like, God,
Speaker 1: this would be such a fun show to be part of.
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't ever get the vibe that the
Speaker 1: instinct guys weren't having fun. Well but no, wait, am
Speaker 1: I remembering correctly that you guys came for a special
Speaker 1: that that was where everybody first met and I actually
Speaker 1: wasn't there. Right, we did that live t G I
Speaker 1: F show thing. Yeah, roically it was t G I
Speaker 1: F UM, which I was super excited to, you know,
Speaker 1: meet everyone. I think Mary Kay and Ashley just premier
Speaker 1: their show that night. Also, Uh it was Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a good time. But I was so nervous to
Speaker 1: meet this one right here, Danielle, because you know I
Speaker 1: have the biggest crush on her. Wait. I actually we've
Speaker 1: we've been talking a lot about our our story because
Speaker 1: um podcast exclusive. Lance and I are actually working on
Speaker 1: a movie about our love story and about our our
Speaker 1: prom experience. For those who don't know, I dated Lance
Speaker 1: for a year about a year um while I was
Speaker 1: on Boy Meets World, and it was my senior year,
Speaker 1: and Lance came with me to my high school prom,
Speaker 1: my Calabasa's high school prom. He was my date. And
Speaker 1: in the talking about this and us working on the
Speaker 1: movie which Lauren Laptus and Mary Hollander writing It's he's
Speaker 1: mentioned that he had a crush on me, which I did.
Speaker 1: I truthfully did not know going into meeting Lance. So
Speaker 1: the way this t G I F thing was happening
Speaker 1: is basically we were doing like a live night. The shows.
Speaker 1: Of course we're already taped and those were those were
Speaker 1: going to just be played on the air the way
Speaker 1: they normally would, but in between the shows, they were
Speaker 1: going live to this cool spot where they were we
Speaker 1: were gonna someone was gonna be hosting it. That person
Speaker 1: was kind of me, and they wanted to have a
Speaker 1: popular band play. And I remember people from ABC coming
Speaker 1: to me and saying, Okay, Danielle as one of the only,
Speaker 1: you know, only girls on this show. Who do you
Speaker 1: who would you love to see? And they kind of
Speaker 1: presented me the option, would you like Backstreet Boys are
Speaker 1: in Sync? And I was like, definitely get in sync?
Speaker 1: And they did, and then I was so and then
Speaker 1: so I was the reason they were like, all right,
Speaker 1: we'll go after in sync. And then they asked in
Speaker 1: Sync to do it, and Lance and Justin, Joey and
Speaker 1: Chris and j C all showed up and it was
Speaker 1: this like big buzzing night and and I got to
Speaker 1: kind of host it and talk to them and interview
Speaker 1: them and and we did these little interstitials in between
Speaker 1: the shows. So that's the night we met. So did
Speaker 1: you watch Boy Meets World, Lance, I've seen a few
Speaker 1: episodes for sure, because again, I mean I had a
Speaker 1: crush on you and Buffy the Vampire Slayer. So Sarah
Speaker 1: Michelle Galler, yes, you know what that you know what
Speaker 1: I remember about that night of the T G I
Speaker 1: F Live show. I remember you all coming out with
Speaker 1: your band and you kept rehearsing the same song, and
Speaker 1: by the third time, right before the song started, you
Speaker 1: at all, right, here's the song again, Sorry this song started.
Speaker 1: Imagine how many times we've had to do that before
Speaker 1: the Remember that night, I mean the only thing that
Speaker 1: I was in my mind that night was to try
Speaker 1: to get your number, Like I didn't know how I
Speaker 1: was going to get go. I need to get her
Speaker 1: numbers somehow. So yeah, well, and the way he got
Speaker 1: my phone number that night, This whole, my whole meeting
Speaker 1: with Lance was very much like it felt like the
Speaker 1: It felt like a movie, which is part of the
Speaker 1: reason why we're going to turn it into a movie.
Speaker 1: But I remember all night talking to them, And again,
Speaker 1: when you're a kid, you kind of get sectioned off
Speaker 1: based on how old you are, you know, like you
Speaker 1: gravitate to the people that are the same age as you.
Speaker 1: And Lance and Justin were the two youngest, and I
Speaker 1: was one of the youngest of all of the people
Speaker 1: that were there, and so Lance and Justin and I
Speaker 1: spent the most amount of time talking to each other.
Speaker 1: And I remember thinking like, I wonder if you know
Speaker 1: this is going well with Lance. I wonder if he's
Speaker 1: going to try to get my number at the end
Speaker 1: of this, or I wonder what's going to happen, like
Speaker 1: having that that buzz that you get when you have
Speaker 1: a crush on somebody new, and you're like, I wonder
Speaker 1: what this is going to turn into. And you also
Speaker 1: know time is limited because like when this is over,
Speaker 1: they're getting on a bus and they're driving away, and
Speaker 1: I have no idea if I'm ever going to see
Speaker 1: these people again. And at the end of the night, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, they're off they run off stage and they
Speaker 1: have to run to go. It changed, and I remember
Speaker 1: like I could technically leave, like I didn't have to
Speaker 1: be there anymore. I could get in my car and go,
Speaker 1: but I was like kind of waiting around to see
Speaker 1: what would happen. When Lance came out from the back,
Speaker 1: and I remember Lance and Justin everybody kind of coming
Speaker 1: out and saying goodbye, and we hugged goodbye, and they
Speaker 1: got all the way to the bus, and I watched
Speaker 1: him walk onto the bus and I started to turn around.
Speaker 1: The bus started to take off, and I started walking
Speaker 1: to my car, and then all of a sudden, I
Speaker 1: heard Danielle and I stopped and I turned around and
Speaker 1: it was Justin. Justin comes running up to me and
Speaker 1: he goes, Danielle, I need to get your number, and
Speaker 1: I was like, what anyway, goes It's for Lance, And
Speaker 1: I said, oh, yeah, okay, and I gave him my
Speaker 1: phone number and he ran back onto the bus, and
Speaker 1: sure enough, like a couple of days later, I had
Speaker 1: a missed call and a voicemail from Lance and it
Speaker 1: was Lance, but Justin also screaming in the background about
Speaker 1: how nervous Lance was to be calling me to write
Speaker 1: what I was going to say on your voice and
Speaker 1: it was too cheesy. Now, wow, it was. It was
Speaker 1: so it was great. I'd watch that movie. Yeah it was.
Speaker 1: It was really great. And then it started like a
Speaker 1: whole year of us just talking on the phone and
Speaker 1: Lance was always in some place new and and that
Speaker 1: Christmas I went to Mississippi and spent time with his family,
Speaker 1: and um, I got to meet Yeah, I got to
Speaker 1: meet his entire family there. And then that following year
Speaker 1: there were during our hiatus weeks I would I would
Speaker 1: go on tour with them for a couple of days
Speaker 1: at a time. I'd pop on the bus and traveled
Speaker 1: with them a little bit. And then he went to
Speaker 1: my high school prom with me, and then he broke
Speaker 1: up with me girlfriend, well, Danielle raw Chris's girlfriend at
Speaker 1: the time. We moved in together. So I met Danielle,
Speaker 1: who was dating Chris Kirkpatrick at the time, and we
Speaker 1: right away kind of hit it off. I mean when
Speaker 1: I first met her, I was like, she's a lot,
Speaker 1: she's a big personality. And her name was also Danielle.
Speaker 1: And so I remember like meeting the rest of the
Speaker 1: guys as now Lance's girlfriend and being a little intimidated,
Speaker 1: and I remember Danielle being like, what, there's another Danielle.
Speaker 1: I'm the only Danielle. And I remember just being like,
Speaker 1: I just please, please don't run over me. Um. But
Speaker 1: we very quickly bonded. And then when I moved out
Speaker 1: of my parents house, like right after I turned eighteen,
Speaker 1: I moved in with Danielle So, Um, I was living
Speaker 1: with another in synct girlfriend and then that may or June,
Speaker 1: Lance and I went to prom and then he broke
Speaker 1: up with me, and I was devastated. And I still
Speaker 1: had to live in a house with another girl who
Speaker 1: was still dating and it was all still just like
Speaker 1: in my world. I had to know what they were
Speaker 1: doing and what they were up to. There was no
Speaker 1: escaping knowing what this. I mean. I really thought I
Speaker 1: thought I was going to marry Lance. I had envisioned
Speaker 1: our future and um, and then when he broke up
Speaker 1: with me, I was like, I couldn't escape it, and
Speaker 1: I kept I held on to hope for way too
Speaker 1: long that Lance and I were going to get back
Speaker 1: together and get married and have a family. And curiously, Lance,
Speaker 1: why did you break up with her? She knows what
Speaker 1: she did. It turns out I'm not Lances type like
Speaker 1: other things. Um. Yeah, no, it's just it's so crazy
Speaker 1: and the reason that we wanted to make this prom
Speaker 1: story into a film, Um, I think so many people
Speaker 1: can relate to that story where I think so many
Speaker 1: people in the LGBT community their prom night was the
Speaker 1: night that they're like, oh wait a minute, like this,
Speaker 1: this can't happen anymore, can do this anymore? And so
Speaker 1: that was was the catalyst for me that that made
Speaker 1: me start to accept myself, which took a long time
Speaker 1: after that, but that was definitely the first little you know,
Speaker 1: straw that broke. Yeah, so I want to go back
Speaker 1: to when you would come to set to visit, because
Speaker 1: you were actually only I think you were only able
Speaker 1: to visit once or twice. But I remember, I remember
Speaker 1: specifically one of the weeks you were able to come
Speaker 1: to visit was the week we were filming Korean to
Speaker 1: Penga's wedding, because I remember being around you in my
Speaker 1: at least veil, if not the wedding dress, and thinking like,
Speaker 1: I wonder what my wedding dress will look like when
Speaker 1: Lance and I are getting married. Wow, it didn't creep
Speaker 1: me out at all. No pressure from with me in
Speaker 1: my wedding dress. Wow. I don't think you were. You
Speaker 1: wouldn't wear the wedding dress in front of me, though,
Speaker 1: that was bad luck exactly didn't want you to see
Speaker 1: me exactly. No, I don't think I was. I wasn't
Speaker 1: very I wasn't vocally expressing these things. These were just
Speaker 1: things that were swirling around around in my teenage mind.
Speaker 1: But I wasn't like I wasn't scaring him. I was
Speaker 1: I was trying to play it. You didn't think you
Speaker 1: were scaring him. I definitely scared him, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: I remember another time you you visited it, you and
Speaker 1: you and Justin visited and we had something to do
Speaker 1: with the premature baby. Remember the whole storyline where they're
Speaker 1: like it was so we on rehearsal days, we just
Speaker 1: had this fake baby there, and of course, me being me,
Speaker 1: I would pick it up and do different voices with it,
Speaker 1: and like I stick cigarettes in its mouth like it was.
Speaker 1: It was so disturbing, it was, And I remember at
Speaker 1: one point you looked at me and you went, what
Speaker 1: is wrong with you? Because it was just so really
Speaker 1: It's like what I do is like what there's a
Speaker 1: prop here and I'm playing with it. But it was
Speaker 1: just like this look of this horrified look, like what
Speaker 1: is your problem? Like what nothing? This is just me
Speaker 1: Like yeah, that's right. It would have been around the
Speaker 1: time that we were filming that that storyline too. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's the question I want to know, maybe other people
Speaker 1: want to know to you guys did a guest appearance
Speaker 1: all of you on Sabrina the Teenage Witch. Right, Yes,
Speaker 1: I get that. In zoo Land R I probably get
Speaker 1: the most of my career. You did Sabrina. Why did
Speaker 1: you do Sabrina and not Boy Meets World from I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe they didn't want us to work together.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Sabrina was the higher rated Showa, right,
Speaker 1: was the hit show of t J I F at
Speaker 1: the time. We were the also rans at that point.
Speaker 1: It was also I bet you a network note because
Speaker 1: we had so many boys on our show. Because they
Speaker 1: tried to launch the girl band on our show. Do
Speaker 1: you remember that, that's right? Right? So they that Nobody's
Speaker 1: Angel was the name of the band or something something angel. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that. Yet Nobody's Angel or not an angel
Speaker 1: or something. But they where of course the episode is
Speaker 1: Sean is in a random diet truck stop, and of
Speaker 1: course there's a girl band. Um, so it was they tried.
Speaker 1: I think it probably had something to do with that,
Speaker 1: where it was like, let's there's a lot of boys
Speaker 1: on Boy Me to World, Let's put the end sync
Speaker 1: guys on the more female driven show and put the
Speaker 1: girl band on the more boy driven show to see
Speaker 1: which shows would want like the whole group to do something.
Speaker 1: I think it was a Touch by an Angel. We
Speaker 1: did that. We were homeless guys, but you know, a
Speaker 1: homeless boy band really with Charlotte Church, I think she
Speaker 1: was also homeless. Wow. Uh yeah, we did Clueless. I
Speaker 1: don't know why we were on that show. And Sabrina
Speaker 1: think it was her birthday. Yeah, yeah, I think Melissa
Speaker 1: Joan Hart requested you guys. I think she and you're
Speaker 1: right writer that they had a much more successful show.
Speaker 1: And so if you were going to get booked on
Speaker 1: a t g I F show, you want to go
Speaker 1: on the one that everybody's watching. Oh I'm gonna find
Speaker 1: that Touch by an Angel? Oh man? All right. So
Speaker 1: so my story of you guys visiting the set, I
Speaker 1: have this very clear memory. You guys came during an episode,
Speaker 1: the one episode direct directed by Mickey Dolan's of the Monkeys,
Speaker 1: and I remember us having a conversation. Uh. We were
Speaker 1: sitting by the craft service and I was talking to
Speaker 1: Justin and we were I was asking about you know,
Speaker 1: what you guys were doing, and he said, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you know they've talked about us doing a TV show
Speaker 1: as a band, but I don't. I don't think we're
Speaker 1: gonna do it. I think that's not a good idea.
Speaker 1: And Mickey Dolans was right behind him, eating a craft service,
Speaker 1: and I remember Mickey Dolan's interrupting our conversation snacking on
Speaker 1: something and going why not, why wouldn't you do that?
Speaker 1: And I watched justin look back realized who it was.
Speaker 1: I have to backpedal desperately. Well, you know, we're just
Speaker 1: not really like acting is not really are were not
Speaker 1: really that might because it was just trash talking. The
Speaker 1: very idea of like a band being in a TV
Speaker 1: show like that would just be stupid. It was one
Speaker 1: of the and I remember him realizing it, me realizing it,
Speaker 1: all of us just having to be like, don't, don't, don't,
Speaker 1: don't insult Nicky, don't don't make him feel bad. Well, yes,
Speaker 1: because for listeners who don't know the Monkeys had a
Speaker 1: TV show, that's the kind of that was there, That's
Speaker 1: how they started. Yeah, oh my gosh, that is so funny.
Speaker 1: What are the odds that they would be there during
Speaker 1: that week that because Mickey Dolan's only directed that one episode. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was in a bunch of episodes, but was when
Speaker 1: he was directing, and it was the with the b
Speaker 1: It was one of the worst episodes. Yeah, yeah, everyone
Speaker 1: was h you all have a favorite episode you'll done
Speaker 1: together that you'll always talk like, oh my gosh, that
Speaker 1: was like the best episode we ever did. Well. We
Speaker 1: always mentioned the Scream episode because it was the first
Speaker 1: time really all of us got to be in in
Speaker 1: a lot of scenes together. Because there was Will has
Speaker 1: mentioned many times, there's all ways that there's like the
Speaker 1: two boy meets Worlds. There was like the storyline that
Speaker 1: was Eric heavy and and his whole storyline, and then
Speaker 1: there was like Corey Shawn and Tupanga and Angela and
Speaker 1: in a separate storyline, and so we very rarely all
Speaker 1: got to work together. And that Scream episode was one
Speaker 1: of the most fun for us because it was just
Speaker 1: fun behind the scenes. And then individually, we all have
Speaker 1: favorite episodes because they mean something to us personally. But
Speaker 1: I think as we go along, we're going to be
Speaker 1: surprised by how many more memories come up and other
Speaker 1: like new favorite episodes. This episode where nobody's angels, uh,
Speaker 1: I remember they were, It's just it was one of
Speaker 1: those such those storylines where it's like, of course you
Speaker 1: encounter a girl band in a stage at this time.
Speaker 1: One of the one of the truckers in the truck
Speaker 1: stop was played by Um, an actor named Mickey. What
Speaker 1: was his Mickey Mickey. Uh, he's great Mickey. Um. He's
Speaker 1: a musician and an actor. And he was great musician.
Speaker 1: He was a drummer for Bob Dylan for the tour
Speaker 1: that Dylan went Electric, And so I remember not only
Speaker 1: hanging out with the Nobody's Angels girls, but also hanging
Speaker 1: out with him and just seeking out about rock music.
Speaker 1: And he had so many good stories because he had
Speaker 1: been sober throughout the entire sixties and seventies when he
Speaker 1: played with all these legendary bands. But yeah, he was
Speaker 1: in the original like the band what became the band.
Speaker 1: He was Mickey Jones. Mickey Jones. He's a great character actor.
Speaker 1: But yeah, everyone will know him immediately if you look
Speaker 1: him up. But yeah, so he passed. I'm sorry to
Speaker 1: tell you he passed away in at seventy six. He
Speaker 1: was in the Tin Cup with UM, with Kevin Costner
Speaker 1: and Uh, he was a great guy and a very
Speaker 1: good musician. Um Yeah, that's that's well, not to bring
Speaker 1: down the whole room. There we go the pandemics. That's positive.
Speaker 1: Say you're always looking for the positive side of stuff. Lance,
Speaker 1: I love that. Um so Lance, can we talked a
Speaker 1: little bit about I found this picture that I just
Speaker 1: I didn't know if writer or Will had ever seen
Speaker 1: one of our prom pictures. But this is our from
Speaker 1: one of our prom pictures that my mom took. Its perfect,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, we'll post that picture on our No,
Speaker 1: you are actually touching me. I can't believe it. The
Speaker 1: one that the one that everyone knows. He's got his
Speaker 1: hand just hovering over my back. He's not actually touching me.
Speaker 1: It's really great. Yeah, he's like he's like he's as
Speaker 1: close to me as he can get without actually room.
Speaker 1: For Jesus, um was how many did you go to
Speaker 1: many school dances? Like? Did you get to go to
Speaker 1: any of your own school dances or did in sync
Speaker 1: kind of make that impossible? Yeah? I mean I went
Speaker 1: to dances, you know, like junior high and I think
Speaker 1: my freshman and sophomore years of high school, I got
Speaker 1: to go to homecoming, but I never got to go
Speaker 1: to my prom, which would have been so much fun,
Speaker 1: so that I was so excited to go to your
Speaker 1: problem because that was that was basically my problem too,
Speaker 1: or I didn't know anyone, but yeah it was, you
Speaker 1: know it was you guys must have been rock stars
Speaker 1: at that problem. Was it a big deal where people
Speaker 1: like freaking out and taking photos and asking for autographs
Speaker 1: or what was it? Like? It was kind of like that.
Speaker 1: And I'll actually let Lance answer it from his experience,
Speaker 1: because I remember actually being like I was mortified because
Speaker 1: I should have thought through it better that like bringing
Speaker 1: him high school. Yeah, it was my high school, and
Speaker 1: I was no big deal at my high school. Like
Speaker 1: it was just not everyone has everyone. We were all
Speaker 1: the same students that I went to junior high school
Speaker 1: with and now I was all the same kids in
Speaker 1: high school, and like, so they were with me through
Speaker 1: all six seven years of boy Meat's world. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like a big deal, and so in my mind when
Speaker 1: I was bringing Lance, it was just going to be
Speaker 1: another kind of not a big deal, Like it didn't
Speaker 1: register to me that, of course bringing Lance was going
Speaker 1: to be a massive story in the school. And so
Speaker 1: the night of prom, I remember feeling really bad for
Speaker 1: him because it did it turned into basically like, you know,
Speaker 1: we went to a pre Yeah, we went to a
Speaker 1: pre prom prom party the way you do. We go
Speaker 1: to somebody's house and everybody, you know, mothers are They're
Speaker 1: taking pictures of kids, and it's like a big group.
Speaker 1: Except the one we went to was like they had
Speaker 1: called all the entire neighborhood over and it wasn't just
Speaker 1: you know, one parent there, it was like every parent.
Speaker 1: And I remember feeling really bad, so I'll let Lance
Speaker 1: to I actually don't know. I think I've had like
Speaker 1: cringe anxiety over just even asking him what he remembers
Speaker 1: about that part. Lance, What was that experience like for you?
Speaker 1: It was the perfect nineties Disney Channel movie My Date
Speaker 1: with Lance Bass. That's what it felt like. You know,
Speaker 1: I felt like I was playing a character. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, Chase Smith from Blah blah blah comes in town.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was. It was fun. I had to
Speaker 1: you know, got a kick out of for sure, because
Speaker 1: one I hadn't been to a prom, so I was
Speaker 1: excited to see what prom was all about. We did
Speaker 1: all those you know, typical prom things, but of course,
Speaker 1: in the back of my mind, the whole entire night.
Speaker 1: Is what's going to happen when we go to the
Speaker 1: hotel after this? Because I know what happened Prom night
Speaker 1: at the hotel? Yeah, and because Landson I had a
Speaker 1: were very wonderful, very warm, loving relationship, but it was
Speaker 1: completely lacking of intimacy. Intimacy in the romantic sense. Um,
Speaker 1: we were we shared, you know, all of our feelings,
Speaker 1: and we shared family stuff, and we were very intimate emotionally,
Speaker 1: but we were not physically intimate. And so Prom night
Speaker 1: we were really So you guys had booked a hotel room.
Speaker 1: Is that totally typical? I know we did an episode
Speaker 1: of World that's kind I think the majority of girls
Speaker 1: in high school lose their virginity. Yes, that seems so
Speaker 1: formulaic and pressure filled and awful. Oh yeah, it's usually
Speaker 1: like it's for some reason, it's the first night maybe
Speaker 1: that your parents ever let you spend the night out,
Speaker 1: like kind of as adults, you're graduating high school, you're
Speaker 1: maybe you're already eighteen or close to eighteen, and so
Speaker 1: it's very stereotypical that you you know, get a limo
Speaker 1: or whatever the car is it's taking you to prom
Speaker 1: and then after Prom everybody goes back to like the
Speaker 1: same hotel, and everybody has their own hotel rooms. And
Speaker 1: so Lance and I had a hotel room booked, and
Speaker 1: you know, I had a vision for what that night
Speaker 1: was going to be, and Lance was very nervous about
Speaker 1: what my vision for that night was going to be.
Speaker 1: And so, yeah, that is really the night Lance talks
Speaker 1: about as being like a thing where he you know,
Speaker 1: he felt like he was hurting me by not being
Speaker 1: honest to himself or with anyone else about um, you know,
Speaker 1: what was going on in his life. And so it
Speaker 1: was kind of the impetus for him to say, I'm
Speaker 1: going to end our relationship. And sure enough, maybe within
Speaker 1: two weeks of prom um, Lance called me and he
Speaker 1: just said, I just I don't think this is working,
Speaker 1: you know, the distance, and and it was, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just too hard. I never get to see you.
Speaker 1: When I do, it's just for short you know times.
Speaker 1: And and here I mostly had been thinking we were
Speaker 1: making it work really well. It was you know, it
Speaker 1: was an answer that you give somebody when you don't
Speaker 1: really want to tell them the real reason why you're
Speaker 1: breaking up with them. And it didn't feel real to me,
Speaker 1: and so I felt like there was something I was missing,
Speaker 1: like is there somebody else? Um? And yeah, I was devastated,
Speaker 1: and I remember calling my mom. My mom was the
Speaker 1: first person I called, and I told her, you know,
Speaker 1: what was going on in my parents loved Lance. Lance
Speaker 1: came when when Lance and I first started dating, which meant,
Speaker 1: you know, talking on the phone incessantly when we first
Speaker 1: met Um and then Lance had some I don't remember
Speaker 1: if they had if you had work in l A.
Speaker 1: I think you had time off and you said for
Speaker 1: my time off, I'd love to come to l A
Speaker 1: and spend it with you. And I said, okay, great,
Speaker 1: And so I told my mom that Lance wanted to
Speaker 1: do that, and at first she was like, okay, well
Speaker 1: he needs to stay in a hotel. He can't stay here,
Speaker 1: and I said, okay, you know that's not a problem.
Speaker 1: And then I think the next day she said to me,
Speaker 1: you know, your dad and I talked about it, and
Speaker 1: we we've actually changed our minds as long as I
Speaker 1: know we can trust you, and we can trust Lance
Speaker 1: that he will stay in his bedroom and you will
Speaker 1: stay in your bedroom. Lance spends so much of his
Speaker 1: time on the road. He's constantly in hotels. We don't
Speaker 1: want him to feel like he's just in another city
Speaker 1: on tour. We want him to feel like he's welcome
Speaker 1: in our family. So he's we'd like for him to
Speaker 1: stay with us, and so I was really excited. So
Speaker 1: Lance came and stayed with my family for like four
Speaker 1: or five days. And yes, there were house rules, and
Speaker 1: your bedroom was downstairs and my bedroom was upstairs. And
Speaker 1: during that during that week we went to our first
Speaker 1: real day out was to go to a Celine Dion
Speaker 1: concert Wow, and we went horseback riding and Lance wore
Speaker 1: a collared shirt that had a leopard print caller at
Speaker 1: the nineties fashion. It was great and I have so
Speaker 1: many great pictures of us. But so my family loved Lance,
Speaker 1: and um, when Lance broke up with me and then
Speaker 1: called my mom and I told her I was in hysterics,
Speaker 1: and my mom said, Danielle, you know, can I can
Speaker 1: I just ask you a question? And I said, you
Speaker 1: know sure? And she said, so you've been with Lance
Speaker 1: for almost a year and I said yes, And she said,
Speaker 1: you know, do you think there's any possibility that Lance
Speaker 1: might be gay? And I said, no, gosh, Mom, just
Speaker 1: because he doesn't like me, doesn't mean he's gay. It
Speaker 1: was like to me, I thought she was just trying
Speaker 1: to make me feel better, like, you know, like, no, Danielle,
Speaker 1: maybe it's because he doesn't like anyone not. And I
Speaker 1: just thought, oh my gosh, everybody's trying to make me
Speaker 1: feel better. No, mom, that's not it. And then I
Speaker 1: hung up the phone from her, and I was a
Speaker 1: little bit like, I wonder maybe, but it still didn't
Speaker 1: like really land until Lance told me himself, which was
Speaker 1: do you remember what year that was? Lance? It would
Speaker 1: have I mean, I know it was that your Halloween party.
Speaker 1: Lance and I stayed friends. Obviously we're still Actually that
Speaker 1: had to be or two thousand, Yeah, well yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it may have been October of two thousand. It
Speaker 1: was like a full year later. I have a question, Lance,
Speaker 1: you broke up with her, had you told yourself yet
Speaker 1: that you were gay? Not really like I knew, it's
Speaker 1: just something that I just didn't want to think about. Um,
Speaker 1: But I had realized that yes, I wasn't into girls.
Speaker 1: But it was also in my head that there's no
Speaker 1: way I would ever act on being gay, like you know,
Speaker 1: it's just like this will just not be a part
Speaker 1: of my life. Yeah, you trick yourself into thinking that
Speaker 1: you're just always going to be in the closet, that
Speaker 1: you will meet someone that you can have a relationship with,
Speaker 1: and you live that lie like so many people have to. Yeah, yikes. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: what a time because you know, I also I was
Speaker 1: thinking about it that even for me when because other
Speaker 1: people said to me, you know, Danielle Lance is gay
Speaker 1: before Lance did, and and we're really trying to tell me,
Speaker 1: like you know, if you can't see it, that's what's
Speaker 1: going on. And I just it was such a thing
Speaker 1: back then, like you know, Lance was so private about
Speaker 1: it and other people were they were you were forced
Speaker 1: to be in the Is it that even for me
Speaker 1: someone to say to me like, well, what you know,
Speaker 1: it's actually that he's gay, It was like, well, no,
Speaker 1: that's not possible because it wasn't as accepted, it wasn't
Speaker 1: as common. It just felt like everyone's just saying that
Speaker 1: to make it think it's not me. Um, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, what a what a absolutely crazy time. And
Speaker 1: I can't even three year Yeah, but the nineties were
Speaker 1: also like there was It's so funny because the same
Speaker 1: way we all know every like we've all run into
Speaker 1: all the different actors of all the different nineties shows
Speaker 1: that we were either at ABC events together, or we
Speaker 1: were on red carpets together, or we did crossover shows
Speaker 1: the same way, Like all the nineties actors kind of
Speaker 1: know each other. It is very much the same in
Speaker 1: the pop community. All the boy bands, all the pop
Speaker 1: artists know each other. And because of my time that
Speaker 1: I spent with Lance, I also know all of the
Speaker 1: boy bands and all of the pop artists from time.
Speaker 1: And some of my favorite stories, Like one of my
Speaker 1: favorite stories is when I was going to do MTV
Speaker 1: spring Break in Cancoon and Lanson and Sank We're also
Speaker 1: there to do spring Break, and Lance and I were
Speaker 1: trying to coordinate it so that I, like he was
Speaker 1: going to be there for one day and I wasn't
Speaker 1: supposed to be working there until like the next day.
Speaker 1: But if I went early, we could probably he had
Speaker 1: a day off, so we could spend actually like two
Speaker 1: or three days in Cancoon together and then both work
Speaker 1: and then he'd leave to go to whatever he was
Speaker 1: doing next, and I would stay and do my work
Speaker 1: and then go home. And so we did. I flew
Speaker 1: out there early to be with Lance, and they ended
Speaker 1: up filming what they needed to film early and decided
Speaker 1: to take their extra days off and they were going
Speaker 1: to go do like another show somewhere else. And so
Speaker 1: then I was suddenly in Cancoon alone, and you know,
Speaker 1: I was like seventeen years old, and Lance was like,
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. The ninety degrees guys are here.
Speaker 1: Let me introduce you to the ninety degrees guys. And
Speaker 1: sure enough. I then I then just hung. I was
Speaker 1: then just a part of the ninety eight degrees for
Speaker 1: those two days, and they were so kind and took
Speaker 1: such good air of me, and uh yeah, so like
Speaker 1: point one, Yeah, I love Did we do spring breaking CaCO? Yes,
Speaker 1: that's the that's the time I'm talking about time. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's right, we did it. I thought that was a vacation.
Speaker 1: I guess it wasn't a vacation. Well, you were supposed
Speaker 1: to have time, you were supposed to have time off.
Speaker 1: And then it ended up being, you know, their schedule
Speaker 1: would always change. They'd have like a day to do something,
Speaker 1: and then it'd be like, you know what, we're actually
Speaker 1: gonna fit in some work and they're gonna fly him
Speaker 1: over here, and um and so he very rarely had
Speaker 1: time off. But anyway, I love thinking about those times.
Speaker 1: Like whenever we run into somebody, my husband's always like,
Speaker 1: how do you know them? And I'm like, oh, of course,
Speaker 1: what do you mean? Of course I know LFO, of
Speaker 1: course I know the nine degrees guys, Like we were
Speaker 1: all a big family and there's they're all they're all
Speaker 1: amazing people, Like they all have great personalities, they're all
Speaker 1: incredibly sweet, and there's like not insane competition. They're all
Speaker 1: really supportive and helpful of each other. It's really very nice. Well,
Speaker 1: we see them at the conventions. They always hang out
Speaker 1: and my favorite, So I've become friends with Joey, but
Speaker 1: every time I see him, I just turned around and
Speaker 1: I just hear what's up? So that's that's just that's
Speaker 1: just his universal greeting for me, every single time, so
Speaker 1: one bit since the day I met him, he is
Speaker 1: the most consistent person. Now, wait, Lance, I have one
Speaker 1: quick question for you, because in the music industry, I
Speaker 1: know that like even back in the day, like Andy Gibb,
Speaker 1: who was the biggest thing in the world, was married,
Speaker 1: but they had to keep it hushed up. Was it
Speaker 1: the kind of thing where you were not allowed to
Speaker 1: talk about that you were dating. You were like always
Speaker 1: supposed to be quote unquote available to all the fans.
Speaker 1: Was that a thing still? It was? Yeah at that time,
Speaker 1: that was definitely the message I was getting, um from
Speaker 1: Lou Prom and my management, the record label. Um, they
Speaker 1: would disguise it in a way if they knew that
Speaker 1: I was gay, they wouldn't say, hey, if you're gay,
Speaker 1: don't come you know whatever, but they would always disguise like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, people look up to you, so you can't
Speaker 1: have a cigarette in your hand, you can't be seen
Speaker 1: with a dream, can be seen with a girlfriend. Um,
Speaker 1: so you know, they were kind of laying down the
Speaker 1: law for us. So I knew being out gay was
Speaker 1: definitely not you know, going to be a boy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if a cigarette was going to do it, yeah, from
Speaker 1: smoking cigarettes a smoking pole is not. Remember then the
Speaker 1: conversation because it was a big deal for me when
Speaker 1: Lance kind of quote unquote announced our relationship on Jay
Speaker 1: Leno right, Oh? Is that where it was? It was
Speaker 1: it was Leno and it was Um, you knew the
Speaker 1: question was coming and the conversation had happened with Johnny
Speaker 1: and the decision was made that you were going to
Speaker 1: say that, yes, I was your girlfriend. And do you
Speaker 1: remember was that conversate was I was I allowed to
Speaker 1: be your girlfriend at that time? Because it was kind
Speaker 1: of hard to deny that something was going on between
Speaker 1: us because I was also recognizable. So like, is that
Speaker 1: what happened? Yeah, because I mean the fans knew. You
Speaker 1: know what, remember when Justin and Brittany first started dating.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like the fans know, and then at
Speaker 1: some point you can't insult their intelligence anymore, and you
Speaker 1: can't just pretend to pretend. So at some point you
Speaker 1: have to, you know, come clean. And it was just
Speaker 1: the time, because you know, I knew this was gonna last.
Speaker 1: It was this was the one, This was the one. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I remember that conversation because I remember it was
Speaker 1: actually one of the first times that I met the
Speaker 1: other guy's girlfriends backstage. And I remember feeling a little
Speaker 1: guilty too, because I knew that that conversation, that that
Speaker 1: question was going to come up, and that Lance was
Speaker 1: going to be allowed to say that yes, I was
Speaker 1: his girlfriend, and um, and yet all of the other
Speaker 1: girlfriends were backstage and we're not allowed to be talked about.
Speaker 1: And then remember the Dry Myself a Crazy video. You know,
Speaker 1: I originally wanted you to play my love interest in
Speaker 1: that because all the other guys, all the other girlfriends
Speaker 1: didn't get to be in the in the video. Remember,
Speaker 1: it was a big deal, like should you do it
Speaker 1: or not? And then we went with like, no, it
Speaker 1: would cause too much of a controversy or something. I
Speaker 1: don't know it was. I think it was they didn't
Speaker 1: want again, they didn't want now my recognizability to take
Speaker 1: people out of the emotion of watching the video, like
Speaker 1: because the I don't know, I do remember. I remember
Speaker 1: it being a big back and forth about whether or
Speaker 1: not and I was so bummed. I was there and
Speaker 1: watching everybody film it and I was like just taking
Speaker 1: pictures of everyone and I wasn't I didn't get to
Speaker 1: play Lance's girlfriend in the video, but all the other
Speaker 1: guy's girlfriends videos. You think of emotions, you know, that's
Speaker 1: take that out of all of our music video always
Speaker 1: very deep. There's so much image management going on. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I feel very lucky in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways. Actor. We did not mean yeah, no, not
Speaker 1: to that to that extent. I mean it really wasn't
Speaker 1: so much easier back then because you know, you could
Speaker 1: stay hidden. There was no social media, no one had
Speaker 1: a camera, and so whatever story you told the public,
Speaker 1: they just had to believe, you know, unless someone you know,
Speaker 1: printed some stupid thing. Uh, there was no proof. Now
Speaker 1: you got proof every step of the way, so you
Speaker 1: can't hide yourself. So I think that's why so many
Speaker 1: people are able to come out sooner and you know,
Speaker 1: and live their real life because authenticity is key and
Speaker 1: everyone can see right through it. Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: Now there's so many more opportunities for people to call
Speaker 1: you out for being in authentic, whereas back then everything
Speaker 1: was very controlled. You had your public appearance and then
Speaker 1: you left, and the only people who really got to
Speaker 1: see you in those public appearances were the people that
Speaker 1: were at the concert. Like I remember going to in
Speaker 1: scene concerts and for a while I was wearing a wig,
Speaker 1: like I would wear a short wig so that people
Speaker 1: wouldn't recognize that it was me there to see Lance.
Speaker 1: And then it was like, well, it's only these people
Speaker 1: in this arena who are going to know. They're not
Speaker 1: going on Twitter to say that they saw me there,
Speaker 1: And yeah, it was it was. I mean, the image
Speaker 1: management was just insane. Now, limfa have a like fictitious
Speaker 1: world question. So if you guys had to go on
Speaker 1: the road now as in sync, but you were going
Speaker 1: to have somebody fill in for justin kind of like
Speaker 1: the way John Mayer is now in The Grateful Dead.
Speaker 1: Who who do you think you would choose to be
Speaker 1: in that role? Oh? I know exactly who would be?
Speaker 1: Is really great with harmonies. Know a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't know that. He kind of came from his college
Speaker 1: he studied music and amazing with harmonies. Darren Chris. I've
Speaker 1: known Darren for years. He's a great guy, a great guy.
Speaker 1: Darren is a great guy. He loves boy bands, He's
Speaker 1: done that like that. He would just be perfect fit
Speaker 1: with us. Yeah, oh that's a great one. Again. Can
Speaker 1: I make a suggestion somebody I'd like to see T Pain?
Speaker 1: T Pain? Yes, okay, I want T Pain to go
Speaker 1: on the road within Sync. I mean that would be
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm down, I'm so dad. Okay, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Is he good with harmonies? You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll ask you. I don't know. Let
Speaker 1: me let me, let me just ask people don't have
Speaker 1: this anymore. So yeah, I guess it doesn't matter. So
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, now Lance is married, happily married to Michael.
Speaker 1: Please tell me a little bit about your husband. Your babies.
Speaker 1: You guys are dads to two twins. How old are they? Now?
Speaker 1: Give give us a little background on your personal life.
Speaker 1: So they were born October thirteen, so they're coming up
Speaker 1: on ten months now. And I mean, how quickly this goes.
Speaker 1: Everyone says it like it will fly by, and it
Speaker 1: has gone so quickly. Like I said, the days are long,
Speaker 1: but the days are long, but the nights are like
Speaker 1: like um, and thank god they sleep throughout the night.
Speaker 1: Now that is the best thing ever. Um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: they've just been incredible. We've had such sweet little babies.
Speaker 1: They let us sleep. Uh. They don't make too much noise,
Speaker 1: which is nice. They're quiet babies. They they're wearing the
Speaker 1: adorable head shaped helmets currently, aren't they? They are. They
Speaker 1: have two more weeks with their little helmets. Um, and
Speaker 1: they have decals on like my son's has Marvel all
Speaker 1: over it. And then my girl probably just got done yesterday.
Speaker 1: She has two weeks left in and they just got done.
Speaker 1: But she's like an Amelia Earhart. Oh and here's this
Speaker 1: is Alexander. Oh wow, now hi buddy. So Lance's kids
Speaker 1: are about like almost exactly a month younger than my
Speaker 1: baby Keaton. And we went to Lance's house, Lance and
Speaker 1: Michael's house for a Memorial Day barbecue and I got
Speaker 1: to hold the babies. And I have a picture of
Speaker 1: me holding Alexander in one arm and holding Keaton in
Speaker 1: the other. And Alexander, a month younger than Keaton, is
Speaker 1: easily twice the size of Keaton. Cut. I have no
Speaker 1: idea why Keaton is so small, Like wait, wise, he's
Speaker 1: in like the eighth percentile or something, and Alexander is
Speaker 1: just sitting next to him. He's got these gorgeous thick,
Speaker 1: chunky little thighs, and Keaton's like it is he is
Speaker 1: a big boy. And his sister has like the little
Speaker 1: hand and little's feet and he's just has his huge
Speaker 1: football player hands. Yeah, they're so sweet, but it was
Speaker 1: really fun to have It's like Simon about him. I
Speaker 1: just like he looks Simone to me. So I think
Speaker 1: he's going to be a very like rock solid, a
Speaker 1: solid kid. Yeah, wait till, like writer said, wait till
Speaker 1: they start like pulling up and walking. Uh. Keaton is
Speaker 1: about to start walking. He has been, Um, he's been
Speaker 1: using his walker and running around the house with his walker,
Speaker 1: and I think any day now he's going to let
Speaker 1: go of that thing and just take off. And um
Speaker 1: now I'm I'm looking at this gorgeous table behind you
Speaker 1: and it looks very sharp and pointy and like you
Speaker 1: have beautiful things on it. There's all these bumpers over
Speaker 1: see put the bumpers on flat bumpers, and they don't
Speaker 1: they're not allowed to go into this room because it's
Speaker 1: a very hazardous. My My whole house is very angular,
Speaker 1: death traps everywhere exactly. It's the point we had the
Speaker 1: baby proofers come over and about five days ago, and
Speaker 1: so of the whole house is great baby proof, but
Speaker 1: they're like stuck in this certain area. Um, this new
Speaker 1: room that we built we thought was going to be
Speaker 1: just a part of our living room. No, it's now
Speaker 1: the kid's room and the baby room. Yeah, that's what happens. Yep.
Speaker 1: Every area starts to get taken over and they're expensive
Speaker 1: and you don't sleep selling it. It's great. Yeah, don't
Speaker 1: you want some? Oh man, well, Will's daughter stepdaughter is
Speaker 1: um is getting married. So getting married. Yeah, she's talk
Speaker 1: about it going fast. I always tell I always tell
Speaker 1: people being a parents the easiest thing in the world.
Speaker 1: My kid came with her own apartment in a four
Speaker 1: oh one k. I mean, come on, simple, simple being
Speaker 1: a parent. Well, what do you have going on work wise?
Speaker 1: Where like what I know you are? You have a
Speaker 1: whole production empire, you're producing things. You are just you
Speaker 1: have a Rockos nightclub, um tell us, and you guys
Speaker 1: do nineties nights right Well, on Fridays we do our
Speaker 1: Flashback Friday, so we bring in the nineties two thousands
Speaker 1: of music, which is so fun, especially for people our
Speaker 1: generation that miss going out and actually dancing on a
Speaker 1: dance floor. That's what we wanted to recreate and it's
Speaker 1: been great. I want to I want to pitch to
Speaker 1: you my idea that I had the other day. I
Speaker 1: want to do. I want to do a parents night,
Speaker 1: but a parents night for parents like me, which is
Speaker 1: I am not cool enough to stay up until ten
Speaker 1: or eleven o'clock to go to a club. What if
Speaker 1: we did a nightclub from like six to ten, okay
Speaker 1: six pm? You have ur Dervs you play great music,
Speaker 1: the music we want to hear, but also you throw
Speaker 1: in the songs that the kids are super into, like
Speaker 1: for example, Adler's just recently really got into zombies, and
Speaker 1: so I'm listening to Zombies Disney Channel music all the
Speaker 1: time and I love it even when there's not in
Speaker 1: the car. The music is incredible. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: With the song Bam? That song is a bop? I
Speaker 1: want to hear the nineties music from my time, but
Speaker 1: from the hours of six pm to ten pm with
Speaker 1: a little bit of my kids music that I actually
Speaker 1: like and enjoy, so thrown in. It's a dusk club,
Speaker 1: night club, correct, thank you very much. I like it.
Speaker 1: I think seven to tend is probably going to be more.
Speaker 1: I think that's great because the club don't even get
Speaker 1: started going to So that's what I said. You guys
Speaker 1: are having wasted hours, But for for people like me,
Speaker 1: I want to be able like I can go to
Speaker 1: I can go to the dusk club from seven to
Speaker 1: nine and still be asleep by ten pm. But I've
Speaker 1: had a great time. I've danced, I've listened to the
Speaker 1: stuff I really like. So anyway back the kid I
Speaker 1: was gonna say you throw it on me bad cheeseburger
Speaker 1: and fries for Danielle and she's just mentioned her greatest
Speaker 1: night ever. Anyway, you know, some of us didn't even
Speaker 1: get to go to proms, so you guys still had
Speaker 1: an awesome problem. I couldn't. I was home. I just
Speaker 1: couldn't get a date. So I literally didn't go to
Speaker 1: my problem dances. That is true. Well, we didn't have
Speaker 1: dances and I went to you know, tiny, tiny square graduates.
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, we didn't have a prom at all.
Speaker 1: But I did go to eighth grade dances like seventh
Speaker 1: and eighth grade. Um, I did go to dances in
Speaker 1: the local public school because I had a girlfriend who
Speaker 1: went to those, so I went to those. Those were
Speaker 1: the best. That was kind of enough for Yeah, Stairway
Speaker 1: to Heaven would start and it would be this great
Speaker 1: slow dance until the fast part of the song started.
Speaker 1: Then you didn't know what to do. So Heaven that's
Speaker 1: like seventies. No, I'm trying to say what it was.
Speaker 1: It was like would have been. Remember it always went
Speaker 1: in with more than words. That's more down the club,
Speaker 1: my friend extreme could close down to dance absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 1: or everything I do, I do it for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was more of the early nineties. Still started to Heaven.
Speaker 1: They played Atan's played It still played at school dances
Speaker 1: all the time. It's like the quintessential dance song. And
Speaker 1: then it's like the guitar starts and you're like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. In Connecticut where they're
Speaker 1: still using facts, are we doing this again? We're doing
Speaker 1: this again. By the way, I want to take this
Speaker 1: moment to thank Lance for coming up with the pod
Speaker 1: Meats World idea. Man. Um, We're so happy he came
Speaker 1: up with this idea because it's really it's really made
Speaker 1: us all closer. And yeah, you know he doesn't get
Speaker 1: enough credit for brand, does he doesn't thank you? Well, Lance,
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for being here with us,
Speaker 1: thank you for taking this time. And I also want
Speaker 1: to thank you and say to everybody that, like, while
Speaker 1: Lance and I met, and I thought he was the
Speaker 1: one true love of my life and that I thought
Speaker 1: I was going to marry him. Um, the biggest, like
Speaker 1: and most amazing takeaway from me from our relationship is
Speaker 1: that Lance is still one of the greatest is a
Speaker 1: great love of my life. It is not a romantic
Speaker 1: love and it never was a romantic love. I thought
Speaker 1: I had hopes for it to be, but it was not.
Speaker 1: But like it didn't matter that that um Lance was
Speaker 1: gay and that I was not going to end up
Speaker 1: marrying him. Like we have maintained a friendship through all
Speaker 1: these years, and of course there have been times, like
Speaker 1: even with Writer and Will, with us, there have been
Speaker 1: times where we've gone a year or two without speaking
Speaker 1: or seeing each other, and you fall in and out
Speaker 1: of each other's lives as things go on, but like
Speaker 1: every time you come back together, it's like no time
Speaker 1: has passed. And Lance is forever one of those people
Speaker 1: for me, And he is like one of my most cherished,
Speaker 1: cherished friends and a cherished person in my life, the
Speaker 1: same way Writer and Will are. And yeah, I just
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for being such a wonderful
Speaker 1: person to me. Well did my friend. It's a you know,
Speaker 1: it's very rare that you meet people that, yeah, you can,
Speaker 1: you know, have that connection with that you can go
Speaker 1: a couple of years, i't even like seeing each other,
Speaker 1: but then just pick up right where we left off.
Speaker 1: And you know, I have a handful of people like
Speaker 1: that in my life. And you're definitely one of those.
Speaker 1: And uh, I could not be happier that year in
Speaker 1: my life. I love you, love you well. Thank you
Speaker 1: everyone for joining us for this wonderful episode of Pod
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Speaker 1: Instagram and Lance, where can we follow you? Um? Oh
Speaker 1: yeah at lants Bass Instagram. TikTok's basically all I do
Speaker 1: these days. I'm kind of getting rid of most of
Speaker 1: it because good for you, Lance, you have a very
Speaker 1: successful TikTok. You go, you go viral all the time. Well,
Speaker 1: it's fun because is on TikTok. It's like your own
Speaker 1: like TV network, right, so you get to entertain people
Speaker 1: um and there and there. It's just fun. And I
Speaker 1: don't see any negativity yet. That's what I said about
Speaker 1: Twitter years ago. I'm like, oh, it's so positive, Um,
Speaker 1: the supportive group. I didn't think everybody was so reasonable,
Speaker 1: but this is amazing. So hopefully TikTok will stay that
Speaker 1: way in my feed, and I'll actually enjoy it not
Speaker 1: have to get rid of it a lot. Do you
Speaker 1: come up with all your own TikTok's idea? What? What
Speaker 1: are your like? Do you have people who help you
Speaker 1: come up with some of your like genius social media
Speaker 1: stuff or is it all you? It's just whatever naturally fits.
Speaker 1: The good thing about TikTok is the trends already there
Speaker 1: most of the time, so it's just trying to remake
Speaker 1: this trend, so they make it easy for you. I
Speaker 1: need to get into that because I don't like what
Speaker 1: you just said. I know that there are TikTok trends,
Speaker 1: but I don't even know where to find them. So
Speaker 1: can you give me a TikTok tutorial? Want to give
Speaker 1: you a tori. You're gonna come over with the kids.
Speaker 1: We're gonna swim. We're gonna make your first TikTok okay effect,
Speaker 1: I love I love that idea. I already have TikTok's
Speaker 1: I have I have, I have some out there, but
Speaker 1: you can make my first trending one. Okay, Yeah, You're
Speaker 1: gonna make them better? Thank you? Please? Please? Yeah, please
Speaker 1: please please bring me to that the babies in the
Speaker 1: social media day. Yeah, that sounds like Will's perfect afternoon.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you for being here with us.
Speaker 1: Uh and we will see you all next time. All right,
Speaker 1: So good to see you all. Thanks. Hi. Well, that
Speaker 1: was really fun to have him come on the show.
Speaker 1: I um, I did not know that story writer about
Speaker 1: Mickey Dolan's being behind him talking about the TV show.
Speaker 1: It was one of those legendary moments like where he
Speaker 1: realized it and I realized it, and it was like,
Speaker 1: oh God, because you know, it's hard to you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's so um. You know, we've talked maybe a
Speaker 1: little bit about this, but like the distinction between being
Speaker 1: a TV actor and a movie actor, and like, at
Speaker 1: the time, the idea of a band doing a TV
Speaker 1: show just seemed kind of cheesy. You were like, you know,
Speaker 1: small potatoes for somebody like and Sync, who are huge
Speaker 1: at the time. But of course back in Mickey's day,
Speaker 1: like they were a band created for a TV show,
Speaker 1: and and their TV show had been such a massive
Speaker 1: head it was like they're bigger than the Beatles. They
Speaker 1: were literally for two years, bigger than the Beatles, And yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I think for from Justin's perspective, who obviously
Speaker 1: went on to become a movie actor, and you know,
Speaker 1: the idea of like being on a TV show with
Speaker 1: his band was just so cheesy piculous. But then he
Speaker 1: turns around and like the one person you can't express
Speaker 1: that sentiment too, is right there. That's hilarious. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time with Justin and Lance because,
Speaker 1: like I said, you know, very similarly even to our show,
Speaker 1: you kind of get sectioned off based on who you're
Speaker 1: closest in age two because there's a big difference in
Speaker 1: age when you're that young, you know, eleven to thirteen,
Speaker 1: The differences there are huge. The other guys like already
Speaker 1: in their twenties. They were, Yeah, I mean Chris is
Speaker 1: the oldest, right, Chris is the oldest, and he's like
Speaker 1: ten years older than just and and Lance ten or
Speaker 1: eleven years older, and I think j C is at
Speaker 1: least three years older and Joey's four or five years older.
Speaker 1: So like, they were definitely, and it's not that I
Speaker 1: didn't spend time with them too. They also they also
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time as a as a group,
Speaker 1: and I got to be a part of that, But
Speaker 1: the two of them were very close and um, and
Speaker 1: so I spent a lot of time with the two
Speaker 1: of them, and they were I mean still to this day,
Speaker 1: Justin is one of the funniest people I've ever spent
Speaker 1: time around in my entire life. He's laugh out loud funny.
Speaker 1: Just few of us. I'm so lucky to know the
Speaker 1: laugh out loud funny people like Wilford Ll Justin timber Lake,
Speaker 1: but Dre. The thing that I loved about the end
Speaker 1: stinct guys. And and this is something that um, you
Speaker 1: obviously know a lot better than I do. But they
Speaker 1: seemed to genuinely like each other. And that's something where
Speaker 1: it was like us doing the show. I mean that
Speaker 1: matters that you can tell when the chemistry is there,
Speaker 1: and you know, know when you're putting people, you're putting
Speaker 1: a cast together, you're putting a band together. You never
Speaker 1: know when the chemistry is gonna work and when it doesn't.
Speaker 1: And all those end synct guys, when they got together,
Speaker 1: you could tell they genuinely enjoyed making art together, spending
Speaker 1: time together, traveling together. I mean, you're a family instantly, um,
Speaker 1: And that makes makes a huge difference, so that was cool.
Speaker 1: Every time you saw them together, it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: they like each other. Yea, the genuinely like each other.
Speaker 1: That's a good thing. Yeah, I know, it is. It's
Speaker 1: it is a perfect Our show is a perfect representation
Speaker 1: of that in the TV form. We we genuinely enjoyed
Speaker 1: each other and what we were doing, and I think
Speaker 1: it comes across. I mean, people talk about that with
Speaker 1: our podcast, which I'm really happy to see. People can
Speaker 1: tell that we are you know, we genuinely love each
Speaker 1: other and we're supportive of each other, and we also
Speaker 1: rip each other, which is really fun. It's part of
Speaker 1: the love. Yeah. Well, I love you guys. We've all
Speaker 1: been doing this for We've only been recording for three
Speaker 1: and a half hours today. Are you sure you don't
Speaker 1: want it? Should we jump into that other podcast idea? Righta? Allright,
Speaker 1: love it? Let's go. So we we opened on the draft.
Speaker 1: Here we go when sure is smelly? All right, thanks
Speaker 1: for being here. We love you all. Pod Dismissed pod
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