WEBVTT - Lance Bass Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>I can hear him, I can hear Lance, I can

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<v Speaker 1>hear lady. What is the shirt? Uh? This is my

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I was still on vacation shirt. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really great. Tell me about your vacation, because I

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<v Speaker 1>saw a couple of pictures. Where were you? What have

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<v Speaker 1>you been doing? Well? We went to Florida, Miami. We

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<v Speaker 1>took the kids so they could stay with grandma, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I took my family to Cayman Island, which was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Never been um, and so that was really nice. But

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<v Speaker 1>then we just got back from Italy. We had a

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<v Speaker 1>wedding and Sorrento awesome. And so how long were the

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<v Speaker 1>kids in Florida with grandparents? Um? For five days? And

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<v Speaker 1>of course the five days that we're in Cayman that's

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<v Speaker 1>when they started taking their first crawl. Like, really, you

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<v Speaker 1>choose these few days? Do you do? You have twins?

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<v Speaker 1>I do? Yeah, I have a word. That's so great.

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<v Speaker 1>At the same time, it was crazy because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she was sitting up for a while, he wasn't doing anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and then finally shod one little crawl, and then probably

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<v Speaker 1>twelve hours later he was crawling because he's like, nope,

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<v Speaker 1>I am not falling by Oh my god. Well, now

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<v Speaker 1>you're entering the whole new stage, which is terrifying. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember being so excited for my son to crawl

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<v Speaker 1>because it was like progress, you know, something new, and

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<v Speaker 1>then entering the new stage, which was horrifying, which is

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly everything on the ground is something they can put

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<v Speaker 1>in their mouths and something that's going to kill them.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like constantly aware of, like that little toy,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta clean that up, we gotta pick that up,

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<v Speaker 1>or they're gonna put that in their mouth. It's babies

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<v Speaker 1>always have the first thing to do is want to

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<v Speaker 1>eat it. Yes, if it's a door knob survival man,

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<v Speaker 1>they gotta keep you every week. You are all just

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<v Speaker 1>selling this parenthood thing. I can't wait to start. This

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<v Speaker 1>sounds amazing. Wow, I do. I do want to properly

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<v Speaker 1>introduce our guest, but I should also properly introduce our show.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Danielle Fischel, I'm right

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<v Speaker 1>or Strong, and I'm Wilfredell, and I'm so excited about

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<v Speaker 1>our guest today. You know who he is because he

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<v Speaker 1>was in the nineties most popular boy band and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I said it. Yes, I'm I'm sticking with it. There

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<v Speaker 1>is no argument. But in SYC is the most popular

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<v Speaker 1>boy band. I would I would throw it down. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know him better as being truly my first

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<v Speaker 1>real love and his name is Lance Bass. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. Thanks for having me, guys. I'm so excited

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<v Speaker 1>I've been listening to your shows. It is brought back

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<v Speaker 1>so many great memories. I actually I do you visited

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<v Speaker 1>our set a couple of times? Do you have any

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<v Speaker 1>specific memories of of being on set? Uh? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like really cool, you know I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so intimidated because you know, that's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>different world from the music industry, So being on a

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<v Speaker 1>set for the first time was your set um. Just

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<v Speaker 1>seeing how everything moved was incredible. Um. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>also kind of jealous because y'all really had so much

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<v Speaker 1>fun with what y'all did too, So I was like, God,

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<v Speaker 1>this would be such a fun show to be part of.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I didn't ever get the vibe that the

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<v Speaker 1>instinct guys weren't having fun. Well but no, wait, am

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<v Speaker 1>I remembering correctly that you guys came for a special

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<v Speaker 1>that that was where everybody first met and I actually

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't there. Right, we did that live t G I

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<v Speaker 1>F show thing. Yeah, roically it was t G I

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<v Speaker 1>F UM, which I was super excited to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>meet everyone. I think Mary Kay and Ashley just premier

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<v Speaker 1>their show that night. Also, Uh it was Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a good time. But I was so nervous to

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<v Speaker 1>meet this one right here, Danielle, because you know I

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<v Speaker 1>have the biggest crush on her. Wait. I actually we've

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<v Speaker 1>we've been talking a lot about our our story because

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<v Speaker 1>um podcast exclusive. Lance and I are actually working on

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<v Speaker 1>a movie about our love story and about our our

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<v Speaker 1>prom experience. For those who don't know, I dated Lance

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<v Speaker 1>for a year about a year um while I was

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<v Speaker 1>on Boy Meets World, and it was my senior year,

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<v Speaker 1>and Lance came with me to my high school prom,

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<v Speaker 1>my Calabasa's high school prom. He was my date. And

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<v Speaker 1>in the talking about this and us working on the

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<v Speaker 1>movie which Lauren Laptus and Mary Hollander writing It's he's

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned that he had a crush on me, which I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I truthfully did not know going into meeting Lance. So

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<v Speaker 1>the way this t G I F thing was happening

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<v Speaker 1>is basically we were doing like a live night. The shows.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course we're already taped and those were those were

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<v Speaker 1>going to just be played on the air the way

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<v Speaker 1>they normally would, but in between the shows, they were

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<v Speaker 1>going live to this cool spot where they were we

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<v Speaker 1>were gonna someone was gonna be hosting it. That person

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of me, and they wanted to have a

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<v Speaker 1>popular band play. And I remember people from ABC coming

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<v Speaker 1>to me and saying, Okay, Danielle as one of the only,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, only girls on this show. Who do you

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<v Speaker 1>who would you love to see? And they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>presented me the option, would you like Backstreet Boys are

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<v Speaker 1>in Sync? And I was like, definitely get in sync?

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<v Speaker 1>And they did, and then I was so and then

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<v Speaker 1>so I was the reason they were like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go after in sync. And then they asked in

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<v Speaker 1>Sync to do it, and Lance and Justin, Joey and

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<v Speaker 1>Chris and j C all showed up and it was

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<v Speaker 1>this like big buzzing night and and I got to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of host it and talk to them and interview

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<v Speaker 1>them and and we did these little interstitials in between

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<v Speaker 1>the shows. So that's the night we met. So did

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<v Speaker 1>you watch Boy Meets World, Lance, I've seen a few

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<v Speaker 1>episodes for sure, because again, I mean I had a

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<v Speaker 1>crush on you and Buffy the Vampire Slayer. So Sarah

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle Galler, yes, you know what that you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I remember about that night of the T G I

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<v Speaker 1>F Live show. I remember you all coming out with

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<v Speaker 1>your band and you kept rehearsing the same song, and

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<v Speaker 1>by the third time, right before the song started, you

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<v Speaker 1>at all, right, here's the song again, Sorry this song started.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine how many times we've had to do that before

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<v Speaker 1>the Remember that night, I mean the only thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I was in my mind that night was to try

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<v Speaker 1>to get your number, Like I didn't know how I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to get go. I need to get her

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<v Speaker 1>numbers somehow. So yeah, well, and the way he got

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<v Speaker 1>my phone number that night, This whole, my whole meeting

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<v Speaker 1>with Lance was very much like it felt like the

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<v Speaker 1>It felt like a movie, which is part of the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why we're going to turn it into a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>But I remember all night talking to them, And again,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're a kid, you kind of get sectioned off

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<v Speaker 1>based on how old you are, you know, like you

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<v Speaker 1>gravitate to the people that are the same age as you.

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<v Speaker 1>And Lance and Justin were the two youngest, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the youngest of all of the people

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<v Speaker 1>that were there, and so Lance and Justin and I

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<v Speaker 1>spent the most amount of time talking to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember thinking like, I wonder if you know

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<v Speaker 1>this is going well with Lance. I wonder if he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to try to get my number at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of this, or I wonder what's going to happen, like

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<v Speaker 1>having that that buzz that you get when you have

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<v Speaker 1>a crush on somebody new, and you're like, I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>what this is going to turn into. And you also

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<v Speaker 1>know time is limited because like when this is over,

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<v Speaker 1>they're getting on a bus and they're driving away, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea if I'm ever going to see

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<v Speaker 1>these people again. And at the end of the night, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're off they run off stage and they

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<v Speaker 1>have to run to go. It changed, and I remember

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<v Speaker 1>like I could technically leave, like I didn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be there anymore. I could get in my car and go,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was like kind of waiting around to see

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<v Speaker 1>what would happen. When Lance came out from the back,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember Lance and Justin everybody kind of coming

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<v Speaker 1>out and saying goodbye, and we hugged goodbye, and they

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<v Speaker 1>got all the way to the bus, and I watched

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<v Speaker 1>him walk onto the bus and I started to turn around.

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<v Speaker 1>The bus started to take off, and I started walking

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<v Speaker 1>to my car, and then all of a sudden, I

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<v Speaker 1>heard Danielle and I stopped and I turned around and

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<v Speaker 1>it was Justin. Justin comes running up to me and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, Danielle, I need to get your number, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what anyway, goes It's for Lance, And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, oh, yeah, okay, and I gave him my

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<v Speaker 1>phone number and he ran back onto the bus, and

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<v Speaker 1>sure enough, like a couple of days later, I had

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<v Speaker 1>a missed call and a voicemail from Lance and it

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<v Speaker 1>was Lance, but Justin also screaming in the background about

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<v Speaker 1>how nervous Lance was to be calling me to write

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<v Speaker 1>what I was going to say on your voice and

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<v Speaker 1>it was too cheesy. Now, wow, it was. It was

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<v Speaker 1>so it was great. I'd watch that movie. Yeah it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really great. And then it started like a

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<v Speaker 1>whole year of us just talking on the phone and

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<v Speaker 1>Lance was always in some place new and and that

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas I went to Mississippi and spent time with his family,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, I got to meet Yeah, I got to

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<v Speaker 1>meet his entire family there. And then that following year

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<v Speaker 1>there were during our hiatus weeks I would I would

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<v Speaker 1>go on tour with them for a couple of days

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<v Speaker 1>at a time. I'd pop on the bus and traveled

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<v Speaker 1>with them a little bit. And then he went to

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<v Speaker 1>my high school prom with me, and then he broke

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<v Speaker 1>up with me girlfriend, well, Danielle raw Chris's girlfriend at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. We moved in together. So I met Danielle,

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<v Speaker 1>who was dating Chris Kirkpatrick at the time, and we

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<v Speaker 1>right away kind of hit it off. I mean when

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<v Speaker 1>I first met her, I was like, she's a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a big personality. And her name was also Danielle.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I remember like meeting the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>guys as now Lance's girlfriend and being a little intimidated,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember Danielle being like, what, there's another Danielle.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the only Danielle. And I remember just being like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just please, please don't run over me. Um. But

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<v Speaker 1>we very quickly bonded. And then when I moved out

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<v Speaker 1>of my parents house, like right after I turned eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>I moved in with Danielle So, Um, I was living

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<v Speaker 1>with another in synct girlfriend and then that may or June,

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<v Speaker 1>Lance and I went to prom and then he broke

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<v Speaker 1>up with me, and I was devastated. And I still

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<v Speaker 1>had to live in a house with another girl who

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<v Speaker 1>was still dating and it was all still just like

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<v Speaker 1>in my world. I had to know what they were

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<v Speaker 1>doing and what they were up to. There was no

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<v Speaker 1>escaping knowing what this. I mean. I really thought I

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<v Speaker 1>thought I was going to marry Lance. I had envisioned

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<v Speaker 1>our future and um, and then when he broke up

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<v Speaker 1>with me, I was like, I couldn't escape it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I kept I held on to hope for way too

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<v Speaker 1>long that Lance and I were going to get back

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<v Speaker 1>together and get married and have a family. And curiously, Lance,

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<v Speaker 1>why did you break up with her? She knows what

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<v Speaker 1>she did. It turns out I'm not Lances type like

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<v Speaker 1>other things. Um. Yeah, no, it's just it's so crazy

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<v Speaker 1>and the reason that we wanted to make this prom

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<v Speaker 1>story into a film, Um, I think so many people

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<v Speaker 1>can relate to that story where I think so many

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<v Speaker 1>people in the LGBT community their prom night was the

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<v Speaker 1>night that they're like, oh wait a minute, like this,

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<v Speaker 1>this can't happen anymore, can do this anymore? And so

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<v Speaker 1>that was was the catalyst for me that that made

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<v Speaker 1>me start to accept myself, which took a long time

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<v Speaker 1>after that, but that was definitely the first little you know,

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<v Speaker 1>straw that broke. Yeah, so I want to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to when you would come to set to visit, because

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<v Speaker 1>you were actually only I think you were only able

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<v Speaker 1>to visit once or twice. But I remember, I remember

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<v Speaker 1>specifically one of the weeks you were able to come

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<v Speaker 1>to visit was the week we were filming Korean to

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<v Speaker 1>Penga's wedding, because I remember being around you in my

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<v Speaker 1>at least veil, if not the wedding dress, and thinking like,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what my wedding dress will look like when

0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Lance and I are getting married. Wow, it didn't creep

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<v Speaker 1>me out at all. No pressure from with me in

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<v Speaker 1>my wedding dress. Wow. I don't think you were. You

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't wear the wedding dress in front of me, though,

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<v Speaker 1>that was bad luck exactly didn't want you to see

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<v Speaker 1>me exactly. No, I don't think I was. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>very I wasn't vocally expressing these things. These were just

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<v Speaker 1>things that were swirling around around in my teenage mind.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wasn't like I wasn't scaring him. I was

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to play it. You didn't think you

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<v Speaker 1>were scaring him. I definitely scared him, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember another time you you visited it, you and

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<v Speaker 1>you and Justin visited and we had something to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the premature baby. Remember the whole storyline where they're

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<v Speaker 1>like it was so we on rehearsal days, we just

0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:39.920
<v Speaker 1>had this fake baby there, and of course, me being me,

0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I would pick it up and do different voices with it,

0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:44.000
<v Speaker 1>and like I stick cigarettes in its mouth like it was.

0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.800
<v Speaker 1>It was so disturbing, it was, And I remember at

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<v Speaker 1>one point you looked at me and you went, what

0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:54.560
<v Speaker 1>is wrong with you? Because it was just so really

0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:55.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like what I do is like what there's a

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<v Speaker 1>prop here and I'm playing with it. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>just like this look of this horrified look, like what

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<v Speaker 1>is your problem? Like what nothing? This is just me

0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, that's right. It would have been around the

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<v Speaker 1>time that we were filming that that storyline too. Okay,

0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:11.440
<v Speaker 1>here's the question I want to know, maybe other people

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<v Speaker 1>want to know to you guys did a guest appearance

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<v Speaker 1>all of you on Sabrina the Teenage Witch. Right, Yes,

0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I get that. In zoo Land R I probably get

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<v Speaker 1>the most of my career. You did Sabrina. Why did

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<v Speaker 1>you do Sabrina and not Boy Meets World from I

0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:29.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Maybe they didn't want us to work together.

0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:35.240
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. Sabrina was the higher rated Showa, right,

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<v Speaker 1>was the hit show of t J I F at

0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.360
<v Speaker 1>the time. We were the also rans at that point.

0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:41.840
<v Speaker 1>It was also I bet you a network note because

0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:43.960
<v Speaker 1>we had so many boys on our show. Because they

0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:46.040
<v Speaker 1>tried to launch the girl band on our show. Do

0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:49.840
<v Speaker 1>you remember that, that's right? Right? So they that Nobody's

0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Angel was the name of the band or something something angel. Yeah, yeah,

0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:58.080
<v Speaker 1>something like that. Yet Nobody's Angel or not an angel

0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.000
<v Speaker 1>or something. But they where of course the episode is

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<v Speaker 1>Sean is in a random diet truck stop, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course there's a girl band. Um, so it was they tried.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it probably had something to do with that,

0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:10.920
<v Speaker 1>where it was like, let's there's a lot of boys

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<v Speaker 1>on Boy Me to World, Let's put the end sync

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<v Speaker 1>guys on the more female driven show and put the

0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.640
<v Speaker 1>girl band on the more boy driven show to see

0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.400
<v Speaker 1>which shows would want like the whole group to do something.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was a Touch by an Angel. We

0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:26.880
<v Speaker 1>did that. We were homeless guys, but you know, a

0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:35.800
<v Speaker 1>homeless boy band really with Charlotte Church, I think she

0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:40.120
<v Speaker 1>was also homeless. Wow. Uh yeah, we did Clueless. I

0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:42.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know why we were on that show. And Sabrina

0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:45.840
<v Speaker 1>think it was her birthday. Yeah, yeah, I think Melissa

0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Joan Hart requested you guys. I think she and you're

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<v Speaker 1>right writer that they had a much more successful show.

0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:51.800
<v Speaker 1>And so if you were going to get booked on

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<v Speaker 1>a t g I F show, you want to go

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<v Speaker 1>on the one that everybody's watching. Oh I'm gonna find

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<v Speaker 1>that Touch by an Angel? Oh man? All right. So

0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:04.800
<v Speaker 1>so my story of you guys visiting the set, I

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<v Speaker 1>have this very clear memory. You guys came during an episode,

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<v Speaker 1>the one episode direct directed by Mickey Dolan's of the Monkeys,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember us having a conversation. Uh. We were

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<v Speaker 1>sitting by the craft service and I was talking to

0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Justin and we were I was asking about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what you guys were doing, and he said, yeah, well,

0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.600
<v Speaker 1>you know they've talked about us doing a TV show

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<v Speaker 1>as a band, but I don't. I don't think we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it. I think that's not a good idea.

0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:39.400
<v Speaker 1>And Mickey Dolans was right behind him, eating a craft service,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember Mickey Dolan's interrupting our conversation snacking on

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<v Speaker 1>something and going why not, why wouldn't you do that?

0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:48.640
<v Speaker 1>And I watched justin look back realized who it was.

0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:52.800
<v Speaker 1>I have to backpedal desperately. Well, you know, we're just

0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.080
<v Speaker 1>not really like acting is not really are were not

0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.960
<v Speaker 1>really that might because it was just trash talking. The

0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:01.360
<v Speaker 1>very idea of like a band being in a TV

0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:04.639
<v Speaker 1>show like that would just be stupid. It was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the and I remember him realizing it, me realizing it,

0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:09.640
<v Speaker 1>all of us just having to be like, don't, don't, don't,

0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.440
<v Speaker 1>don't insult Nicky, don't don't make him feel bad. Well, yes,

0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:15.359
<v Speaker 1>because for listeners who don't know the Monkeys had a

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<v Speaker 1>TV show, that's the kind of that was there, That's

0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:23.960
<v Speaker 1>how they started. Yeah, oh my gosh, that is so funny.

0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:25.880
<v Speaker 1>What are the odds that they would be there during

0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:28.760
<v Speaker 1>that week that because Mickey Dolan's only directed that one episode. Yeah,

0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:30.240
<v Speaker 1>he was in a bunch of episodes, but was when

0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:33.080
<v Speaker 1>he was directing, and it was the with the b

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<v Speaker 1>It was one of the worst episodes. Yeah, yeah, everyone

0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.800
<v Speaker 1>was h you all have a favorite episode you'll done

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<v Speaker 1>together that you'll always talk like, oh my gosh, that

0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:49.320
<v Speaker 1>was like the best episode we ever did. Well. We

0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.359
<v Speaker 1>always mentioned the Scream episode because it was the first

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<v Speaker 1>time really all of us got to be in in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of scenes together. Because there was Will has

0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:00.840
<v Speaker 1>mentioned many times, there's all ways that there's like the

0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.320
<v Speaker 1>two boy meets Worlds. There was like the storyline that

0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:06.679
<v Speaker 1>was Eric heavy and and his whole storyline, and then

0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:09.240
<v Speaker 1>there was like Corey Shawn and Tupanga and Angela and

0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:11.840
<v Speaker 1>in a separate storyline, and so we very rarely all

0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:15.360
<v Speaker 1>got to work together. And that Scream episode was one

0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:17.159
<v Speaker 1>of the most fun for us because it was just

0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:19.879
<v Speaker 1>fun behind the scenes. And then individually, we all have

0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:24.119
<v Speaker 1>favorite episodes because they mean something to us personally. But

0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I think as we go along, we're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>surprised by how many more memories come up and other

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<v Speaker 1>like new favorite episodes. This episode where nobody's angels, uh,

0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:40.840
<v Speaker 1>I remember they were, It's just it was one of

0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:42.919
<v Speaker 1>those such those storylines where it's like, of course you

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<v Speaker 1>encounter a girl band in a stage at this time.

0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:48.840
<v Speaker 1>One of the one of the truckers in the truck

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<v Speaker 1>stop was played by Um, an actor named Mickey. What

0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:57.880
<v Speaker 1>was his Mickey Mickey. Uh, he's great Mickey. Um. He's

0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:00.920
<v Speaker 1>a musician and an actor. And he was great musician.

0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.760
<v Speaker 1>He was a drummer for Bob Dylan for the tour

0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:06.840
<v Speaker 1>that Dylan went Electric, And so I remember not only

0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:10.080
<v Speaker 1>hanging out with the Nobody's Angels girls, but also hanging

0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:12.200
<v Speaker 1>out with him and just seeking out about rock music.

0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:14.520
<v Speaker 1>And he had so many good stories because he had

0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:17.280
<v Speaker 1>been sober throughout the entire sixties and seventies when he

0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:20.439
<v Speaker 1>played with all these legendary bands. But yeah, he was

0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:22.640
<v Speaker 1>in the original like the band what became the band.

0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:26.359
<v Speaker 1>He was Mickey Jones. Mickey Jones. He's a great character actor.

0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:28.480
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, everyone will know him immediately if you look

0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:31.440
<v Speaker 1>him up. But yeah, so he passed. I'm sorry to

0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:35.399
<v Speaker 1>tell you he passed away in at seventy six. He

0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:38.560
<v Speaker 1>was in the Tin Cup with UM, with Kevin Costner

0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:41.040
<v Speaker 1>and Uh, he was a great guy and a very

0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:45.400
<v Speaker 1>good musician. Um Yeah, that's that's well, not to bring

0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:49.480
<v Speaker 1>down the whole room. There we go the pandemics. That's positive.

0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:53.679
<v Speaker 1>Say you're always looking for the positive side of stuff. Lance,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. Um so Lance, can we talked a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about I found this picture that I just

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know if writer or Will had ever seen

0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:07.320
<v Speaker 1>one of our prom pictures. But this is our from

0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:11.440
<v Speaker 1>one of our prom pictures that my mom took. Its perfect,

0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:16.800
<v Speaker 1>and so yeah, we'll post that picture on our No,

0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:19.679
<v Speaker 1>you are actually touching me. I can't believe it. The

0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:21.720
<v Speaker 1>one that the one that everyone knows. He's got his

0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:24.479
<v Speaker 1>hand just hovering over my back. He's not actually touching me.

0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:29.439
<v Speaker 1>It's really great. Yeah, he's like he's like he's as

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<v Speaker 1>close to me as he can get without actually room.

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<v Speaker 1>For Jesus, um was how many did you go to

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<v Speaker 1>many school dances? Like? Did you get to go to

0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:46.800
<v Speaker 1>any of your own school dances or did in sync

0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:49.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of make that impossible? Yeah? I mean I went

0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:51.880
<v Speaker 1>to dances, you know, like junior high and I think

0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:55.160
<v Speaker 1>my freshman and sophomore years of high school, I got

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<v Speaker 1>to go to homecoming, but I never got to go

0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:59.920
<v Speaker 1>to my prom, which would have been so much fun,

0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:01.399
<v Speaker 1>so that I was so excited to go to your

0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:04.320
<v Speaker 1>problem because that was that was basically my problem too,

0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:08.080
<v Speaker 1>or I didn't know anyone, but yeah it was, you

0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:10.520
<v Speaker 1>know it was you guys must have been rock stars

0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:12.960
<v Speaker 1>at that problem. Was it a big deal where people

0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:15.919
<v Speaker 1>like freaking out and taking photos and asking for autographs

0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:18.480
<v Speaker 1>or what was it? Like? It was kind of like that.

0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:21.320
<v Speaker 1>And I'll actually let Lance answer it from his experience,

0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:25.160
<v Speaker 1>because I remember actually being like I was mortified because

0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I should have thought through it better that like bringing

0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:31.000
<v Speaker 1>him high school. Yeah, it was my high school, and

0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:33.439
<v Speaker 1>I was no big deal at my high school. Like

0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:36.159
<v Speaker 1>it was just not everyone has everyone. We were all

0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the same students that I went to junior high school

0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:39.920
<v Speaker 1>with and now I was all the same kids in

0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:42.600
<v Speaker 1>high school, and like, so they were with me through

0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:44.720
<v Speaker 1>all six seven years of boy Meat's world. It wasn't

0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:46.480
<v Speaker 1>like a big deal, and so in my mind when

0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:48.280
<v Speaker 1>I was bringing Lance, it was just going to be

0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:51.480
<v Speaker 1>another kind of not a big deal, Like it didn't

0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:54.360
<v Speaker 1>register to me that, of course bringing Lance was going

0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:57.119
<v Speaker 1>to be a massive story in the school. And so

0:21:57.200 --> 0:21:59.919
<v Speaker 1>the night of prom, I remember feeling really bad for

0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:04.040
<v Speaker 1>him because it did it turned into basically like, you know,

0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:06.720
<v Speaker 1>we went to a pre Yeah, we went to a

0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:08.679
<v Speaker 1>pre prom prom party the way you do. We go

0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:11.320
<v Speaker 1>to somebody's house and everybody, you know, mothers are They're

0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:13.400
<v Speaker 1>taking pictures of kids, and it's like a big group.

0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Except the one we went to was like they had

0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:19.440
<v Speaker 1>called all the entire neighborhood over and it wasn't just

0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:22.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, one parent there, it was like every parent.

0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:24.880
<v Speaker 1>And I remember feeling really bad, so I'll let Lance

0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:26.719
<v Speaker 1>to I actually don't know. I think I've had like

0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:30.000
<v Speaker 1>cringe anxiety over just even asking him what he remembers

0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:32.359
<v Speaker 1>about that part. Lance, What was that experience like for you?

0:22:32.640 --> 0:22:38.360
<v Speaker 1>It was the perfect nineties Disney Channel movie My Date

0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:42.760
<v Speaker 1>with Lance Bass. That's what it felt like. You know,

0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I felt like I was playing a character. It's like,

0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:47.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, Chase Smith from Blah blah blah comes in town.

0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:51.520
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it was. It was fun. I had to

0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:53.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, got a kick out of for sure, because

0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:55.199
<v Speaker 1>one I hadn't been to a prom, so I was

0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:57.480
<v Speaker 1>excited to see what prom was all about. We did

0:22:57.520 --> 0:23:00.920
<v Speaker 1>all those you know, typical prom things, but of course,

0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:02.960
<v Speaker 1>in the back of my mind, the whole entire night.

0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Is what's going to happen when we go to the

0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:08.040
<v Speaker 1>hotel after this? Because I know what happened Prom night

0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:11.240
<v Speaker 1>at the hotel? Yeah, and because Landson I had a

0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:15.399
<v Speaker 1>were very wonderful, very warm, loving relationship, but it was

0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:20.119
<v Speaker 1>completely lacking of intimacy. Intimacy in the romantic sense. Um,

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:23.400
<v Speaker 1>we were we shared, you know, all of our feelings,

0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:26.480
<v Speaker 1>and we shared family stuff, and we were very intimate emotionally,

0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:29.159
<v Speaker 1>but we were not physically intimate. And so Prom night

0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:33.720
<v Speaker 1>we were really So you guys had booked a hotel room.

0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Is that totally typical? I know we did an episode

0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:40.960
<v Speaker 1>of World that's kind I think the majority of girls

0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:44.840
<v Speaker 1>in high school lose their virginity. Yes, that seems so

0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:49.280
<v Speaker 1>formulaic and pressure filled and awful. Oh yeah, it's usually

0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:52.400
<v Speaker 1>like it's for some reason, it's the first night maybe

0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:55.359
<v Speaker 1>that your parents ever let you spend the night out,

0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:58.720
<v Speaker 1>like kind of as adults, you're graduating high school, you're

0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:02.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe you're already eighteen or close to eighteen, and so

0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:05.920
<v Speaker 1>it's very stereotypical that you you know, get a limo

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:08.240
<v Speaker 1>or whatever the car is it's taking you to prom

0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:11.080
<v Speaker 1>and then after Prom everybody goes back to like the

0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:14.800
<v Speaker 1>same hotel, and everybody has their own hotel rooms. And

0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:17.680
<v Speaker 1>so Lance and I had a hotel room booked, and

0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:21.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, I had a vision for what that night

0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:26.119
<v Speaker 1>was going to be, and Lance was very nervous about

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:28.159
<v Speaker 1>what my vision for that night was going to be.

0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:30.880
<v Speaker 1>And so, yeah, that is really the night Lance talks

0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:34.119
<v Speaker 1>about as being like a thing where he you know,

0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 1>he felt like he was hurting me by not being

0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:40.159
<v Speaker 1>honest to himself or with anyone else about um, you know,

0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:41.639
<v Speaker 1>what was going on in his life. And so it

0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 1>was kind of the impetus for him to say, I'm

0:24:44.160 --> 0:24:46.760
<v Speaker 1>going to end our relationship. And sure enough, maybe within

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 1>two weeks of prom um, Lance called me and he

0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 1>just said, I just I don't think this is working,

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:58.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, the distance, and and it was, you know, yeah,

0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:00.240
<v Speaker 1>it's just too hard. I never get to see you.

0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:02.320
<v Speaker 1>When I do, it's just for short you know times.

0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 1>And and here I mostly had been thinking we were

0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:07.359
<v Speaker 1>making it work really well. It was you know, it

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:09.160
<v Speaker 1>was an answer that you give somebody when you don't

0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:10.800
<v Speaker 1>really want to tell them the real reason why you're

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 1>breaking up with them. And it didn't feel real to me,

0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:14.480
<v Speaker 1>and so I felt like there was something I was missing,

0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Speaker 1>like is there somebody else? Um? And yeah, I was devastated,

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:20.720
<v Speaker 1>and I remember calling my mom. My mom was the

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:23.960
<v Speaker 1>first person I called, and I told her, you know,

0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:27.160
<v Speaker 1>what was going on in my parents loved Lance. Lance

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:29.680
<v Speaker 1>came when when Lance and I first started dating, which meant,

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:32.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, talking on the phone incessantly when we first

0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:35.359
<v Speaker 1>met Um and then Lance had some I don't remember

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:36.920
<v Speaker 1>if they had if you had work in l A.

0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 1>I think you had time off and you said for

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:40.399
<v Speaker 1>my time off, I'd love to come to l A

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and spend it with you. And I said, okay, great,

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:44.159
<v Speaker 1>And so I told my mom that Lance wanted to

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:45.919
<v Speaker 1>do that, and at first she was like, okay, well

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 1>he needs to stay in a hotel. He can't stay here,

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:50.719
<v Speaker 1>and I said, okay, you know that's not a problem.

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 1>And then I think the next day she said to me,

0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:54.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, your dad and I talked about it, and

0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:57.280
<v Speaker 1>we we've actually changed our minds as long as I

0:25:57.400 --> 0:25:59.680
<v Speaker 1>know we can trust you, and we can trust Lance

0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:01.920
<v Speaker 1>that he will stay in his bedroom and you will

0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:04.200
<v Speaker 1>stay in your bedroom. Lance spends so much of his

0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:06.480
<v Speaker 1>time on the road. He's constantly in hotels. We don't

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 1>want him to feel like he's just in another city

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 1>on tour. We want him to feel like he's welcome

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 1>in our family. So he's we'd like for him to

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 1>stay with us, and so I was really excited. So

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Lance came and stayed with my family for like four

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:21.159
<v Speaker 1>or five days. And yes, there were house rules, and

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:24.600
<v Speaker 1>your bedroom was downstairs and my bedroom was upstairs. And

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:28.080
<v Speaker 1>during that during that week we went to our first

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:30.840
<v Speaker 1>real day out was to go to a Celine Dion

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:38.120
<v Speaker 1>concert Wow, and we went horseback riding and Lance wore

0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:43.159
<v Speaker 1>a collared shirt that had a leopard print caller at

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:45.440
<v Speaker 1>the nineties fashion. It was great and I have so

0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 1>many great pictures of us. But so my family loved Lance,

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 1>and um, when Lance broke up with me and then

0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:52.879
<v Speaker 1>called my mom and I told her I was in hysterics,

0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 1>and my mom said, Danielle, you know, can I can

0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:58.440
<v Speaker 1>I just ask you a question? And I said, you

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 1>know sure? And she said, so you've been with Lance

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:03.560
<v Speaker 1>for almost a year and I said yes, And she said,

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, do you think there's any possibility that Lance

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 1>might be gay? And I said, no, gosh, Mom, just

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 1>because he doesn't like me, doesn't mean he's gay. It

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 1>was like to me, I thought she was just trying

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:23.120
<v Speaker 1>to make me feel better, like, you know, like, no, Danielle,

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's because he doesn't like anyone not. And I

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>just thought, oh my gosh, everybody's trying to make me

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 1>feel better. No, mom, that's not it. And then I

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:32.399
<v Speaker 1>hung up the phone from her, and I was a

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 1>little bit like, I wonder maybe, but it still didn't

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:40.760
<v Speaker 1>like really land until Lance told me himself, which was

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 1>do you remember what year that was? Lance? It would

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:46.160
<v Speaker 1>have I mean, I know it was that your Halloween party.

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:49.119
<v Speaker 1>Lance and I stayed friends. Obviously we're still Actually that

0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 1>had to be or two thousand, Yeah, well yeah, I

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:56.399
<v Speaker 1>think it may have been October of two thousand. It

0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 1>was like a full year later. I have a question, Lance,

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.520
<v Speaker 1>you broke up with her, had you told yourself yet

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:07.360
<v Speaker 1>that you were gay? Not really like I knew, it's

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:09.920
<v Speaker 1>just something that I just didn't want to think about. Um,

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>But I had realized that yes, I wasn't into girls.

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 1>But it was also in my head that there's no

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 1>way I would ever act on being gay, like you know,

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 1>it's just like this will just not be a part

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 1>of my life. Yeah, you trick yourself into thinking that

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 1>you're just always going to be in the closet, that

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:28.159
<v Speaker 1>you will meet someone that you can have a relationship with,

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 1>and you live that lie like so many people have to. Yeah, yikes. Yeah, man,

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>what a time because you know, I also I was

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>thinking about it that even for me when because other

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 1>people said to me, you know, Danielle Lance is gay

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 1>before Lance did, and and we're really trying to tell me,

0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:50.480
<v Speaker 1>like you know, if you can't see it, that's what's

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 1>going on. And I just it was such a thing

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 1>back then, like you know, Lance was so private about

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:58.959
<v Speaker 1>it and other people were they were you were forced

0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 1>to be in the Is it that even for me

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 1>someone to say to me like, well, what you know,

0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:05.000
<v Speaker 1>it's actually that he's gay, It was like, well, no,

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 1>that's not possible because it wasn't as accepted, it wasn't

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 1>as common. It just felt like everyone's just saying that

0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:15.960
<v Speaker 1>to make it think it's not me. Um, so yeah,

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what a what a absolutely crazy time. And

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I can't even three year Yeah, but the nineties were

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 1>also like there was It's so funny because the same

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:33.720
<v Speaker 1>way we all know every like we've all run into

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 1>all the different actors of all the different nineties shows

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 1>that we were either at ABC events together, or we

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 1>were on red carpets together, or we did crossover shows

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 1>the same way, Like all the nineties actors kind of

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 1>know each other. It is very much the same in

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 1>the pop community. All the boy bands, all the pop

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>artists know each other. And because of my time that

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I spent with Lance, I also know all of the

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 1>boy bands and all of the pop artists from time.

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 1>And some of my favorite stories, Like one of my

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 1>favorite stories is when I was going to do MTV

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 1>spring Break in Cancoon and Lanson and Sank We're also

0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 1>there to do spring Break, and Lance and I were

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 1>trying to coordinate it so that I, like he was

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 1>going to be there for one day and I wasn't

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be working there until like the next day.

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 1>But if I went early, we could probably he had

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 1>a day off, so we could spend actually like two

0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 1>or three days in Cancoon together and then both work

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 1>and then he'd leave to go to whatever he was

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 1>doing next, and I would stay and do my work

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 1>and then go home. And so we did. I flew

0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 1>out there early to be with Lance, and they ended

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:36.720
<v Speaker 1>up filming what they needed to film early and decided

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 1>to take their extra days off and they were going

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 1>to go do like another show somewhere else. And so

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 1>then I was suddenly in Cancoon alone, and you know,

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:46.240
<v Speaker 1>I was like seventeen years old, and Lance was like,

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 1>don't worry about it. The ninety degrees guys are here.

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Let me introduce you to the ninety degrees guys. And

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 1>sure enough. I then I then just hung. I was

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 1>then just a part of the ninety eight degrees for

0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 1>those two days, and they were so kind and took

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:02.440
<v Speaker 1>such good air of me, and uh yeah, so like

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 1>point one, Yeah, I love Did we do spring breaking CaCO? Yes,

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 1>that's the that's the time I'm talking about time. Oh,

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 1>that's right, we did it. I thought that was a vacation.

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>I guess it wasn't a vacation. Well, you were supposed

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 1>to have time, you were supposed to have time off.

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:22.480
<v Speaker 1>And then it ended up being, you know, their schedule

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 1>would always change. They'd have like a day to do something,

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 1>and then it'd be like, you know what, we're actually

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:27.959
<v Speaker 1>gonna fit in some work and they're gonna fly him

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 1>over here, and um and so he very rarely had

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 1>time off. But anyway, I love thinking about those times.

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>Like whenever we run into somebody, my husband's always like,

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 1>how do you know them? And I'm like, oh, of course,

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>what do you mean? Of course I know LFO, of

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>course I know the nine degrees guys, Like we were

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>all a big family and there's they're all they're all

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 1>amazing people, Like they all have great personalities, they're all

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 1>incredibly sweet, and there's like not insane competition. They're all

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 1>really supportive and helpful of each other. It's really very nice. Well,

0:31:56.640 --> 0:31:58.479
<v Speaker 1>we see them at the conventions. They always hang out

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>and my favorite, So I've become friends with Joey, but

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 1>every time I see him, I just turned around and

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I just hear what's up? So that's that's just that's

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 1>just his universal greeting for me, every single time, so

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 1>one bit since the day I met him, he is

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>the most consistent person. Now, wait, Lance, I have one

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 1>quick question for you, because in the music industry, I

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 1>know that like even back in the day, like Andy Gibb,

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 1>who was the biggest thing in the world, was married,

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 1>but they had to keep it hushed up. Was it

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 1>the kind of thing where you were not allowed to

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 1>talk about that you were dating. You were like always

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:36.680
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be quote unquote available to all the fans.

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Was that a thing still? It was? Yeah at that time,

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>that was definitely the message I was getting, um from

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Lou Prom and my management, the record label. Um, they

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 1>would disguise it in a way if they knew that

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:51.479
<v Speaker 1>I was gay, they wouldn't say, hey, if you're gay,

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 1>don't come you know whatever, but they would always disguise like, well,

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, people look up to you, so you can't

0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>have a cigarette in your hand, you can't be seen

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 1>with a dream, can be seen with a girlfriend. Um,

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 1>so you know, they were kind of laying down the

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 1>law for us. So I knew being out gay was

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 1>definitely not you know, going to be a boy. Yeah,

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:13.479
<v Speaker 1>if a cigarette was going to do it, yeah, from

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>smoking cigarettes a smoking pole is not. Remember then the

0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 1>conversation because it was a big deal for me when

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Lance kind of quote unquote announced our relationship on Jay

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Leno right, Oh? Is that where it was? It was

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:38.840
<v Speaker 1>it was Leno and it was Um, you knew the

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:42.080
<v Speaker 1>question was coming and the conversation had happened with Johnny

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and the decision was made that you were going to

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 1>say that, yes, I was your girlfriend. And do you

0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 1>remember was that conversate was I was I allowed to

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>be your girlfriend at that time? Because it was kind

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 1>of hard to deny that something was going on between

0:33:56.760 --> 0:34:00.160
<v Speaker 1>us because I was also recognizable. So like, is that

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 1>what happened? Yeah, because I mean the fans knew. You

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 1>know what, remember when Justin and Brittany first started dating.

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like the fans know, and then at

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 1>some point you can't insult their intelligence anymore, and you

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 1>can't just pretend to pretend. So at some point you

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:16.400
<v Speaker 1>have to, you know, come clean. And it was just

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:19.800
<v Speaker 1>the time, because you know, I knew this was gonna last.

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:25.239
<v Speaker 1>It was this was the one, This was the one. Yeah.

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>So I remember that conversation because I remember it was

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 1>actually one of the first times that I met the

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 1>other guy's girlfriends backstage. And I remember feeling a little

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 1>guilty too, because I knew that that conversation, that that

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:37.279
<v Speaker 1>question was going to come up, and that Lance was

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:38.840
<v Speaker 1>going to be allowed to say that yes, I was

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:41.799
<v Speaker 1>his girlfriend, and um, and yet all of the other

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 1>girlfriends were backstage and we're not allowed to be talked about.

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 1>And then remember the Dry Myself a Crazy video. You know,

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I originally wanted you to play my love interest in

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 1>that because all the other guys, all the other girlfriends

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't get to be in the in the video. Remember,

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 1>it was a big deal, like should you do it

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 1>or not? And then we went with like, no, it

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 1>would cause too much of a controversy or something. I

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know it was. I think it was they didn't

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:09.799
<v Speaker 1>want again, they didn't want now my recognizability to take

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 1>people out of the emotion of watching the video, like

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:16.240
<v Speaker 1>because the I don't know, I do remember. I remember

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 1>it being a big back and forth about whether or

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 1>not and I was so bummed. I was there and

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 1>watching everybody film it and I was like just taking

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 1>pictures of everyone and I wasn't I didn't get to

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 1>play Lance's girlfriend in the video, but all the other

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:32.400
<v Speaker 1>guy's girlfriends videos. You think of emotions, you know, that's

0:35:32.400 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 1>take that out of all of our music video always

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:40.760
<v Speaker 1>very deep. There's so much image management going on. It's crazy.

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, I feel very lucky in a lot

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 1>of ways. Actor. We did not mean yeah, no, not

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 1>to that to that extent. I mean it really wasn't

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 1>so much easier back then because you know, you could

0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 1>stay hidden. There was no social media, no one had

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 1>a camera, and so whatever story you told the public,

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 1>they just had to believe, you know, unless someone you know,

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:03.920
<v Speaker 1>printed some stupid thing. Uh, there was no proof. Now

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 1>you got proof every step of the way, so you

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:09.040
<v Speaker 1>can't hide yourself. So I think that's why so many

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>people are able to come out sooner and you know,

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:15.719
<v Speaker 1>and live their real life because authenticity is key and

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:19.239
<v Speaker 1>everyone can see right through it. Yeah, yeah, you're right.

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:22.759
<v Speaker 1>Now there's so many more opportunities for people to call

0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 1>you out for being in authentic, whereas back then everything

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 1>was very controlled. You had your public appearance and then

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 1>you left, and the only people who really got to

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:32.759
<v Speaker 1>see you in those public appearances were the people that

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 1>were at the concert. Like I remember going to in

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:36.359
<v Speaker 1>scene concerts and for a while I was wearing a wig,

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:38.479
<v Speaker 1>like I would wear a short wig so that people

0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't recognize that it was me there to see Lance.

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:43.319
<v Speaker 1>And then it was like, well, it's only these people

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 1>in this arena who are going to know. They're not

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 1>going on Twitter to say that they saw me there,

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it was it was. I mean, the image

0:36:50.080 --> 0:37:04.000
<v Speaker 1>management was just insane. Now, limfa have a like fictitious

0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 1>world question. So if you guys had to go on

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:09.319
<v Speaker 1>the road now as in sync, but you were going

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 1>to have somebody fill in for justin kind of like

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the way John Mayer is now in The Grateful Dead.

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Who who do you think you would choose to be

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:22.320
<v Speaker 1>in that role? Oh? I know exactly who would be?

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Is really great with harmonies. Know a lot of people

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know that. He kind of came from his college

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:33.759
<v Speaker 1>he studied music and amazing with harmonies. Darren Chris. I've

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:36.439
<v Speaker 1>known Darren for years. He's a great guy, a great guy.

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:39.399
<v Speaker 1>Darren is a great guy. He loves boy bands, He's

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:42.719
<v Speaker 1>done that like that. He would just be perfect fit

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:45.239
<v Speaker 1>with us. Yeah, oh that's a great one. Again. Can

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I make a suggestion somebody I'd like to see T Pain?

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 1>T Pain? Yes, okay, I want T Pain to go

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 1>on the road within Sync. I mean that would be

0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm down, I'm so dad. Okay, you know,

0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Is he good with harmonies? You know,

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'll ask you. I don't know. Let

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 1>me let me, let me just ask people don't have

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 1>this anymore. So yeah, I guess it doesn't matter. So

0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:20.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, okay, now Lance is married, happily married to Michael.

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Please tell me a little bit about your husband. Your babies.

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 1>You guys are dads to two twins. How old are they? Now?

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Give give us a little background on your personal life.

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:34.200
<v Speaker 1>So they were born October thirteen, so they're coming up

0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:38.680
<v Speaker 1>on ten months now. And I mean, how quickly this goes.

0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Everyone says it like it will fly by, and it

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:45.319
<v Speaker 1>has gone so quickly. Like I said, the days are long,

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 1>but the days are long, but the nights are like

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:51.880
<v Speaker 1>like um, and thank god they sleep throughout the night.

0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:55.399
<v Speaker 1>Now that is the best thing ever. Um. But yeah,

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 1>they've just been incredible. We've had such sweet little babies.

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 1>They let us sleep. Uh. They don't make too much noise,

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:05.800
<v Speaker 1>which is nice. They're quiet babies. They they're wearing the

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:09.400
<v Speaker 1>adorable head shaped helmets currently, aren't they? They are. They

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 1>have two more weeks with their little helmets. Um, and

0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 1>they have decals on like my son's has Marvel all

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:18.240
<v Speaker 1>over it. And then my girl probably just got done yesterday.

0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:20.200
<v Speaker 1>She has two weeks left in and they just got done.

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:25.360
<v Speaker 1>But she's like an Amelia Earhart. Oh and here's this

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 1>is Alexander. Oh wow, now hi buddy. So Lance's kids

0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 1>are about like almost exactly a month younger than my

0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 1>baby Keaton. And we went to Lance's house, Lance and

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Michael's house for a Memorial Day barbecue and I got

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:49.759
<v Speaker 1>to hold the babies. And I have a picture of

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:52.920
<v Speaker 1>me holding Alexander in one arm and holding Keaton in

0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 1>the other. And Alexander, a month younger than Keaton, is

0:39:56.520 --> 0:40:01.360
<v Speaker 1>easily twice the size of Keaton. Cut. I have no

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:05.279
<v Speaker 1>idea why Keaton is so small, Like wait, wise, he's

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 1>in like the eighth percentile or something, and Alexander is

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:11.279
<v Speaker 1>just sitting next to him. He's got these gorgeous thick,

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:18.800
<v Speaker 1>chunky little thighs, and Keaton's like it is he is

0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:21.319
<v Speaker 1>a big boy. And his sister has like the little

0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:23.759
<v Speaker 1>hand and little's feet and he's just has his huge

0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:28.040
<v Speaker 1>football player hands. Yeah, they're so sweet, but it was

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 1>really fun to have It's like Simon about him. I

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:32.960
<v Speaker 1>just like he looks Simone to me. So I think

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:37.440
<v Speaker 1>he's going to be a very like rock solid, a

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:41.000
<v Speaker 1>solid kid. Yeah, wait till, like writer said, wait till

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 1>they start like pulling up and walking. Uh. Keaton is

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:48.560
<v Speaker 1>about to start walking. He has been, Um, he's been

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:51.360
<v Speaker 1>using his walker and running around the house with his walker,

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and I think any day now he's going to let

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:55.879
<v Speaker 1>go of that thing and just take off. And um

0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:59.640
<v Speaker 1>now I'm I'm looking at this gorgeous table behind you

0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 1>and it looks very sharp and pointy and like you

0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:04.759
<v Speaker 1>have beautiful things on it. There's all these bumpers over

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 1>see put the bumpers on flat bumpers, and they don't

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:12.120
<v Speaker 1>they're not allowed to go into this room because it's

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:15.920
<v Speaker 1>a very hazardous. My My whole house is very angular,

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 1>death traps everywhere exactly. It's the point we had the

0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 1>baby proofers come over and about five days ago, and

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:27.640
<v Speaker 1>so of the whole house is great baby proof, but

0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:31.200
<v Speaker 1>they're like stuck in this certain area. Um, this new

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:32.680
<v Speaker 1>room that we built we thought was going to be

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:34.719
<v Speaker 1>just a part of our living room. No, it's now

0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:38.839
<v Speaker 1>the kid's room and the baby room. Yeah, that's what happens. Yep.

0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Every area starts to get taken over and they're expensive

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:47.240
<v Speaker 1>and you don't sleep selling it. It's great. Yeah, don't

0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:52.920
<v Speaker 1>you want some? Oh man, well, Will's daughter stepdaughter is

0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:57.239
<v Speaker 1>um is getting married. So getting married. Yeah, she's talk

0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 1>about it going fast. I always tell I always tell

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>people being a parents the easiest thing in the world.

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:03.799
<v Speaker 1>My kid came with her own apartment in a four

0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:06.759
<v Speaker 1>oh one k. I mean, come on, simple, simple being

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:12.279
<v Speaker 1>a parent. Well, what do you have going on work wise?

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Where like what I know you are? You have a

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 1>whole production empire, you're producing things. You are just you

0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 1>have a Rockos nightclub, um tell us, and you guys

0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 1>do nineties nights right Well, on Fridays we do our

0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Flashback Friday, so we bring in the nineties two thousands

0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:31.440
<v Speaker 1>of music, which is so fun, especially for people our

0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:34.840
<v Speaker 1>generation that miss going out and actually dancing on a

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:38.279
<v Speaker 1>dance floor. That's what we wanted to recreate and it's

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 1>been great. I want to I want to pitch to

0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 1>you my idea that I had the other day. I

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:45.160
<v Speaker 1>want to do. I want to do a parents night,

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:47.800
<v Speaker 1>but a parents night for parents like me, which is

0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I am not cool enough to stay up until ten

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:53.319
<v Speaker 1>or eleven o'clock to go to a club. What if

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:56.879
<v Speaker 1>we did a nightclub from like six to ten, okay

0:42:57.040 --> 0:43:00.279
<v Speaker 1>six pm? You have ur Dervs you play great music,

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:02.439
<v Speaker 1>the music we want to hear, but also you throw

0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:05.120
<v Speaker 1>in the songs that the kids are super into, like

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:09.040
<v Speaker 1>for example, Adler's just recently really got into zombies, and

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:13.719
<v Speaker 1>so I'm listening to Zombies Disney Channel music all the

0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 1>time and I love it even when there's not in

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:19.600
<v Speaker 1>the car. The music is incredible. Are you kidding me?

0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:23.360
<v Speaker 1>With the song Bam? That song is a bop? I

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:26.680
<v Speaker 1>want to hear the nineties music from my time, but

0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:29.000
<v Speaker 1>from the hours of six pm to ten pm with

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:30.960
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of my kids music that I actually

0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:33.680
<v Speaker 1>like and enjoy, so thrown in. It's a dusk club,

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:37.440
<v Speaker 1>night club, correct, thank you very much. I like it.

0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:39.839
<v Speaker 1>I think seven to tend is probably going to be more.

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:44.719
<v Speaker 1>I think that's great because the club don't even get

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 1>started going to So that's what I said. You guys

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 1>are having wasted hours, But for for people like me,

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to be able like I can go to

0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 1>I can go to the dusk club from seven to

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:56.239
<v Speaker 1>nine and still be asleep by ten pm. But I've

0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:57.960
<v Speaker 1>had a great time. I've danced, I've listened to the

0:43:58.000 --> 0:44:00.920
<v Speaker 1>stuff I really like. So anyway back the kid I

0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:03.239
<v Speaker 1>was gonna say you throw it on me bad cheeseburger

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:05.680
<v Speaker 1>and fries for Danielle and she's just mentioned her greatest

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 1>night ever. Anyway, you know, some of us didn't even

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:17.719
<v Speaker 1>get to go to proms, so you guys still had

0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 1>an awesome problem. I couldn't. I was home. I just

0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:22.400
<v Speaker 1>couldn't get a date. So I literally didn't go to

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:27.080
<v Speaker 1>my problem dances. That is true. Well, we didn't have

0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:30.399
<v Speaker 1>dances and I went to you know, tiny, tiny square graduates.

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:33.480
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, no, we didn't have a prom at all.

0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:36.880
<v Speaker 1>But I did go to eighth grade dances like seventh

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:40.360
<v Speaker 1>and eighth grade. Um, I did go to dances in

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 1>the local public school because I had a girlfriend who

0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:45.520
<v Speaker 1>went to those, so I went to those. Those were

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:48.520
<v Speaker 1>the best. That was kind of enough for Yeah, Stairway

0:44:48.560 --> 0:44:50.360
<v Speaker 1>to Heaven would start and it would be this great

0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:52.680
<v Speaker 1>slow dance until the fast part of the song started.

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Then you didn't know what to do. So Heaven that's

0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:59.000
<v Speaker 1>like seventies. No, I'm trying to say what it was.

0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:02.359
<v Speaker 1>It was like would have been. Remember it always went

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:06.640
<v Speaker 1>in with more than words. That's more down the club,

0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:10.520
<v Speaker 1>my friend extreme could close down to dance absolutely, yeah,

0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:15.000
<v Speaker 1>or everything I do, I do it for you. Yeah,

0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:17.960
<v Speaker 1>that was more of the early nineties. Still started to Heaven.

0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:20.200
<v Speaker 1>They played Atan's played It still played at school dances

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 1>all the time. It's like the quintessential dance song. And

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:24.840
<v Speaker 1>then it's like the guitar starts and you're like, no,

0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:27.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to do. In Connecticut where they're

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:29.239
<v Speaker 1>still using facts, are we doing this again? We're doing

0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:31.480
<v Speaker 1>this again. By the way, I want to take this

0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:33.279
<v Speaker 1>moment to thank Lance for coming up with the pod

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:36.680
<v Speaker 1>Meats World idea. Man. Um, We're so happy he came

0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:39.000
<v Speaker 1>up with this idea because it's really it's really made

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:42.080
<v Speaker 1>us all closer. And yeah, you know he doesn't get

0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:47.200
<v Speaker 1>enough credit for brand, does he doesn't thank you? Well, Lance,

0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:48.799
<v Speaker 1>I want to thank you for being here with us,

0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:51.959
<v Speaker 1>thank you for taking this time. And I also want

0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:55.239
<v Speaker 1>to thank you and say to everybody that, like, while

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Lance and I met, and I thought he was the

0:45:57.680 --> 0:45:59.560
<v Speaker 1>one true love of my life and that I thought

0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I was going to marry him. Um, the biggest, like

0:46:03.600 --> 0:46:07.000
<v Speaker 1>and most amazing takeaway from me from our relationship is

0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:10.480
<v Speaker 1>that Lance is still one of the greatest is a

0:46:10.560 --> 0:46:13.240
<v Speaker 1>great love of my life. It is not a romantic

0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:15.759
<v Speaker 1>love and it never was a romantic love. I thought

0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:17.480
<v Speaker 1>I had hopes for it to be, but it was not.

0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:22.040
<v Speaker 1>But like it didn't matter that that um Lance was

0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:24.440
<v Speaker 1>gay and that I was not going to end up

0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:28.040
<v Speaker 1>marrying him. Like we have maintained a friendship through all

0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:30.279
<v Speaker 1>these years, and of course there have been times, like

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 1>even with Writer and Will, with us, there have been

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:34.760
<v Speaker 1>times where we've gone a year or two without speaking

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:36.759
<v Speaker 1>or seeing each other, and you fall in and out

0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:38.600
<v Speaker 1>of each other's lives as things go on, but like

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:41.879
<v Speaker 1>every time you come back together, it's like no time

0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:45.479
<v Speaker 1>has passed. And Lance is forever one of those people

0:46:45.560 --> 0:46:48.600
<v Speaker 1>for me, And he is like one of my most cherished,

0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 1>cherished friends and a cherished person in my life, the

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:54.960
<v Speaker 1>same way Writer and Will are. And yeah, I just

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to thank you for being such a wonderful

0:46:57.920 --> 0:47:01.920
<v Speaker 1>person to me. Well did my friend. It's a you know,

0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:04.319
<v Speaker 1>it's very rare that you meet people that, yeah, you can,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, have that connection with that you can go

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years, i't even like seeing each other,

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<v Speaker 1>but then just pick up right where we left off.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I have a handful of people like

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<v Speaker 1>that in my life. And you're definitely one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, I could not be happier that year in

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<v Speaker 1>my life. I love you, love you well. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>everyone for joining us for this wonderful episode of Pod

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<v Speaker 1>Meets World. We uh send us your thoughts about what

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<v Speaker 1>what you want to hear more of and what you

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear less of. You can write to us

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<v Speaker 1>sure you follow us on Pod meets World Show on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram and Lance, where can we follow you? Um? Oh

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<v Speaker 1>yeah at lants Bass Instagram. TikTok's basically all I do

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<v Speaker 1>these days. I'm kind of getting rid of most of

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<v Speaker 1>it because good for you, Lance, you have a very

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<v Speaker 1>successful TikTok. You go, you go viral all the time. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fun because is on TikTok. It's like your own

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<v Speaker 1>like TV network, right, so you get to entertain people

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<v Speaker 1>um and there and there. It's just fun. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see any negativity yet. That's what I said about

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter years ago. I'm like, oh, it's so positive, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>the supportive group. I didn't think everybody was so reasonable,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is amazing. So hopefully TikTok will stay that

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<v Speaker 1>way in my feed, and I'll actually enjoy it not

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<v Speaker 1>have to get rid of it a lot. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>come up with all your own TikTok's idea? What? What

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<v Speaker 1>are your like? Do you have people who help you

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<v Speaker 1>come up with some of your like genius social media

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<v Speaker 1>stuff or is it all you? It's just whatever naturally fits.

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<v Speaker 1>The good thing about TikTok is the trends already there

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<v Speaker 1>most of the time, so it's just trying to remake

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<v Speaker 1>this trend, so they make it easy for you. I

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<v Speaker 1>need to get into that because I don't like what

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<v Speaker 1>you just said. I know that there are TikTok trends,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't even know where to find them. So

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<v Speaker 1>can you give me a TikTok tutorial? Want to give

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<v Speaker 1>you a tori. You're gonna come over with the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna swim. We're gonna make your first TikTok okay effect,

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<v Speaker 1>I love I love that idea. I already have TikTok's

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<v Speaker 1>I have I have, I have some out there, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can make my first trending one. Okay, Yeah, You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make them better? Thank you? Please? Please? Yeah, please

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<v Speaker 1>please please bring me to that the babies in the

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<v Speaker 1>social media day. Yeah, that sounds like Will's perfect afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, thank you for being here with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and we will see you all next time. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So good to see you all. Thanks. Hi. Well, that

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<v Speaker 1>was really fun to have him come on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I um, I did not know that story writer about

0:49:36.320 --> 0:49:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Mickey Dolan's being behind him talking about the TV show.

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<v Speaker 1>It was one of those legendary moments like where he

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<v Speaker 1>realized it and I realized it, and it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh God, because you know, it's hard to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's so um. You know, we've talked maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about this, but like the distinction between being

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<v Speaker 1>a TV actor and a movie actor, and like, at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, the idea of a band doing a TV

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<v Speaker 1>show just seemed kind of cheesy. You were like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>small potatoes for somebody like and Sync, who are huge

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. But of course back in Mickey's day,

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<v Speaker 1>like they were a band created for a TV show,

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<v Speaker 1>and and their TV show had been such a massive

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<v Speaker 1>head it was like they're bigger than the Beatles. They

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<v Speaker 1>were literally for two years, bigger than the Beatles, And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think for from Justin's perspective, who obviously

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<v Speaker 1>went on to become a movie actor, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of like being on a TV show with

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<v Speaker 1>his band was just so cheesy piculous. But then he

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<v Speaker 1>turns around and like the one person you can't express

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<v Speaker 1>that sentiment too, is right there. That's hilarious. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>I spent a lot of time with Justin and Lance because,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, you know, very similarly even to our show,

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of get sectioned off based on who you're

0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:46.080
<v Speaker 1>closest in age two because there's a big difference in

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<v Speaker 1>age when you're that young, you know, eleven to thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>The differences there are huge. The other guys like already

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<v Speaker 1>in their twenties. They were, Yeah, I mean Chris is

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<v Speaker 1>the oldest, right, Chris is the oldest, and he's like

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<v Speaker 1>ten years older than just and and Lance ten or

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<v Speaker 1>eleven years older, and I think j C is at

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<v Speaker 1>least three years older and Joey's four or five years older.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, they were definitely, and it's not that I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't spend time with them too. They also they also

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<v Speaker 1>spent a lot of time as a as a group,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got to be a part of that, But

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<v Speaker 1>the two of them were very close and um, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I spent a lot of time with the two

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<v Speaker 1>of them, and they were I mean still to this day,

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<v Speaker 1>Justin is one of the funniest people I've ever spent

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<v Speaker 1>time around in my entire life. He's laugh out loud funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Just few of us. I'm so lucky to know the

0:51:38.000 --> 0:51:40.920
<v Speaker 1>laugh out loud funny people like Wilford Ll Justin timber Lake,

0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:44.520
<v Speaker 1>but Dre. The thing that I loved about the end

0:51:44.520 --> 0:51:47.239
<v Speaker 1>stinct guys. And and this is something that um, you

0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:48.920
<v Speaker 1>obviously know a lot better than I do. But they

0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:53.640
<v Speaker 1>seemed to genuinely like each other. And that's something where

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<v Speaker 1>it was like us doing the show. I mean that

0:51:55.920 --> 0:51:59.680
<v Speaker 1>matters that you can tell when the chemistry is there,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, know when you're putting people, you're putting

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<v Speaker 1>a cast together, you're putting a band together. You never

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<v Speaker 1>know when the chemistry is gonna work and when it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And all those end synct guys, when they got together,

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<v Speaker 1>you could tell they genuinely enjoyed making art together, spending

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<v Speaker 1>time together, traveling together. I mean, you're a family instantly, um,

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<v Speaker 1>And that makes makes a huge difference, so that was cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time you saw them together, it was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they like each other. Yea, the genuinely like each other.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good thing. Yeah, I know, it is. It's

0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:27.800
<v Speaker 1>it is a perfect Our show is a perfect representation

0:52:27.840 --> 0:52:30.200
<v Speaker 1>of that in the TV form. We we genuinely enjoyed

0:52:30.440 --> 0:52:32.560
<v Speaker 1>each other and what we were doing, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it comes across. I mean, people talk about that with

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<v Speaker 1>our podcast, which I'm really happy to see. People can

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<v Speaker 1>tell that we are you know, we genuinely love each

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<v Speaker 1>other and we're supportive of each other, and we also

0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:44.160
<v Speaker 1>rip each other, which is really fun. It's part of

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<v Speaker 1>the love. Yeah. Well, I love you guys. We've all

0:52:48.160 --> 0:52:50.399
<v Speaker 1>been doing this for We've only been recording for three

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<v Speaker 1>and a half hours today. Are you sure you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want it? Should we jump into that other podcast idea? Righta? Allright,

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<v Speaker 1>love it? Let's go. So we we opened on the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go when sure is smelly? All right, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for being here. We love you all. Pod Dismissed pod

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