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Speaker 1: It was the perfect nineties Disney Channel movie My Date

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Speaker 1: in the back of my mind, the whole entire night.

429
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: Is what's going to happen when we go to the

430
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: hotel after this? Because I know what happened Prom night

431
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: at the hotel? Yeah, and because Landson I had a

432
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 1: were very wonderful, very warm, loving relationship, but it was

433
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 1: completely lacking of intimacy. Intimacy in the romantic sense. Um,

434
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 1: we were we shared, you know, all of our feelings,

435
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: and we shared family stuff, and we were very intimate emotionally,

436
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 1: but we were not physically intimate. And so Prom night

437
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: we were really So you guys had booked a hotel room.

438
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,719
Speaker 1: Is that totally typical? I know we did an episode

439
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: of World that's kind I think the majority of girls

440
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: in high school lose their virginity. Yes, that seems so

441
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: formulaic and pressure filled and awful. Oh yeah, it's usually

442
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 1: like it's for some reason, it's the first night maybe

443
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 1: that your parents ever let you spend the night out,

444
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: like kind of as adults, you're graduating high school, you're

445
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: maybe you're already eighteen or close to eighteen, and so

446
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: it's very stereotypical that you you know, get a limo

447
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: or whatever the car is it's taking you to prom

448
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: and then after Prom everybody goes back to like the

449
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: same hotel, and everybody has their own hotel rooms. And

450
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: so Lance and I had a hotel room booked, and

451
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: you know, I had a vision for what that night

452
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: was going to be, and Lance was very nervous about

453
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 1: what my vision for that night was going to be.

454
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 1: And so, yeah, that is really the night Lance talks

455
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: about as being like a thing where he you know,

456
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: he felt like he was hurting me by not being

457
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 1: honest to himself or with anyone else about um, you know,

458
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: what was going on in his life. And so it

459
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 1: was kind of the impetus for him to say, I'm

460
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: going to end our relationship. And sure enough, maybe within

461
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: two weeks of prom um, Lance called me and he

462
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: just said, I just I don't think this is working,

463
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, the distance, and and it was, you know, yeah,

464
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: it's just too hard. I never get to see you.

465
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: When I do, it's just for short you know times.

466
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: And and here I mostly had been thinking we were

467
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: making it work really well. It was you know, it

468
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: was an answer that you give somebody when you don't

469
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: really want to tell them the real reason why you're

470
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: breaking up with them. And it didn't feel real to me,

471
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: and so I felt like there was something I was missing,

472
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: like is there somebody else? Um? And yeah, I was devastated,

473
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: and I remember calling my mom. My mom was the

474
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: first person I called, and I told her, you know,

475
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 1: what was going on in my parents loved Lance. Lance

476
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: came when when Lance and I first started dating, which meant,

477
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 1: you know, talking on the phone incessantly when we first

478
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: met Um and then Lance had some I don't remember

479
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: if they had if you had work in l A.

480
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: I think you had time off and you said for

481
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: my time off, I'd love to come to l A

482
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: and spend it with you. And I said, okay, great,

483
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: And so I told my mom that Lance wanted to

484
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 1: do that, and at first she was like, okay, well

485
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: he needs to stay in a hotel. He can't stay here,

486
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,719
Speaker 1: and I said, okay, you know that's not a problem.

487
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: And then I think the next day she said to me,

488
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: you know, your dad and I talked about it, and

489
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: we we've actually changed our minds as long as I

490
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: know we can trust you, and we can trust Lance

491
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 1: that he will stay in his bedroom and you will

492
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: stay in your bedroom. Lance spends so much of his

493
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: time on the road. He's constantly in hotels. We don't

494
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: want him to feel like he's just in another city

495
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: on tour. We want him to feel like he's welcome

496
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: in our family. So he's we'd like for him to

497
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: stay with us, and so I was really excited. So

498
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: Lance came and stayed with my family for like four

499
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: or five days. And yes, there were house rules, and

500
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: your bedroom was downstairs and my bedroom was upstairs. And

501
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: during that during that week we went to our first

502
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: real day out was to go to a Celine Dion

503
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: concert Wow, and we went horseback riding and Lance wore

504
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 1: a collared shirt that had a leopard print caller at

505
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: the nineties fashion. It was great and I have so

506
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: many great pictures of us. But so my family loved Lance,

507
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: and um, when Lance broke up with me and then

508
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: called my mom and I told her I was in hysterics,

509
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: and my mom said, Danielle, you know, can I can

510
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: I just ask you a question? And I said, you

511
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: know sure? And she said, so you've been with Lance

512
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: for almost a year and I said yes, And she said,

513
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: you know, do you think there's any possibility that Lance

514
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: might be gay? And I said, no, gosh, Mom, just

515
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: because he doesn't like me, doesn't mean he's gay. It

516
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: was like to me, I thought she was just trying

517
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: to make me feel better, like, you know, like, no, Danielle,

518
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: maybe it's because he doesn't like anyone not. And I

519
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: just thought, oh my gosh, everybody's trying to make me

520
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: feel better. No, mom, that's not it. And then I

521
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: hung up the phone from her, and I was a

522
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: little bit like, I wonder maybe, but it still didn't

523
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: like really land until Lance told me himself, which was

524
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: do you remember what year that was? Lance? It would

525
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: have I mean, I know it was that your Halloween party.

526
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: Lance and I stayed friends. Obviously we're still Actually that

527
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: had to be or two thousand, Yeah, well yeah, I

528
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: think it may have been October of two thousand. It

529
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: was like a full year later. I have a question, Lance,

530
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: you broke up with her, had you told yourself yet

531
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: that you were gay? Not really like I knew, it's

532
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: just something that I just didn't want to think about. Um,

533
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: But I had realized that yes, I wasn't into girls.

534
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: But it was also in my head that there's no

535
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: way I would ever act on being gay, like you know,

536
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: it's just like this will just not be a part

537
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: of my life. Yeah, you trick yourself into thinking that

538
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: you're just always going to be in the closet, that

539
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: you will meet someone that you can have a relationship with,

540
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: and you live that lie like so many people have to. Yeah, yikes. Yeah, man,

541
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: what a time because you know, I also I was

542
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: thinking about it that even for me when because other

543
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: people said to me, you know, Danielle Lance is gay

544
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: before Lance did, and and we're really trying to tell me,

545
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: like you know, if you can't see it, that's what's

546
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: going on. And I just it was such a thing

547
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: back then, like you know, Lance was so private about

548
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,959
Speaker 1: it and other people were they were you were forced

549
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: to be in the Is it that even for me

550
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: someone to say to me like, well, what you know,

551
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: it's actually that he's gay, It was like, well, no,

552
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: that's not possible because it wasn't as accepted, it wasn't

553
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: as common. It just felt like everyone's just saying that

554
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: to make it think it's not me. Um, so yeah,

555
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: I mean, what a what a absolutely crazy time. And

556
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: I can't even three year Yeah, but the nineties were

557
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: also like there was It's so funny because the same

558
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: way we all know every like we've all run into

559
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: all the different actors of all the different nineties shows

560
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: that we were either at ABC events together, or we

561
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: were on red carpets together, or we did crossover shows

562
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: the same way, Like all the nineties actors kind of

563
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: know each other. It is very much the same in

564
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: the pop community. All the boy bands, all the pop

565
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: artists know each other. And because of my time that

566
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: I spent with Lance, I also know all of the

567
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: boy bands and all of the pop artists from time.

568
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: And some of my favorite stories, Like one of my

569
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: favorite stories is when I was going to do MTV

570
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: spring Break in Cancoon and Lanson and Sank We're also

571
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: there to do spring Break, and Lance and I were

572
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: trying to coordinate it so that I, like he was

573
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: going to be there for one day and I wasn't

574
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: supposed to be working there until like the next day.

575
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: But if I went early, we could probably he had

576
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: a day off, so we could spend actually like two

577
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: or three days in Cancoon together and then both work

578
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: and then he'd leave to go to whatever he was

579
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: doing next, and I would stay and do my work

580
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: and then go home. And so we did. I flew

581
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: out there early to be with Lance, and they ended

582
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: up filming what they needed to film early and decided

583
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: to take their extra days off and they were going

584
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: to go do like another show somewhere else. And so

585
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: then I was suddenly in Cancoon alone, and you know,

586
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: I was like seventeen years old, and Lance was like,

587
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. The ninety degrees guys are here.

588
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: Let me introduce you to the ninety degrees guys. And

589
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: sure enough. I then I then just hung. I was

590
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: then just a part of the ninety eight degrees for

591
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: those two days, and they were so kind and took

592
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: such good air of me, and uh yeah, so like

593
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: point one, Yeah, I love Did we do spring breaking CaCO? Yes,

594
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: that's the that's the time I'm talking about time. Oh,

595
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: that's right, we did it. I thought that was a vacation.

596
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: I guess it wasn't a vacation. Well, you were supposed

597
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: to have time, you were supposed to have time off.

598
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: And then it ended up being, you know, their schedule

599
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: would always change. They'd have like a day to do something,

600
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: and then it'd be like, you know what, we're actually

601
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 1: gonna fit in some work and they're gonna fly him

602
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: over here, and um and so he very rarely had

603
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: time off. But anyway, I love thinking about those times.

604
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: Like whenever we run into somebody, my husband's always like,

605
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: how do you know them? And I'm like, oh, of course,

606
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: what do you mean? Of course I know LFO, of

607
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: course I know the nine degrees guys, Like we were

608
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: all a big family and there's they're all they're all

609
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: amazing people, Like they all have great personalities, they're all

610
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: incredibly sweet, and there's like not insane competition. They're all

611
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: really supportive and helpful of each other. It's really very nice. Well,

612
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,479
Speaker 1: we see them at the conventions. They always hang out

613
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: and my favorite, So I've become friends with Joey, but

614
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: every time I see him, I just turned around and

615
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: I just hear what's up? So that's that's just that's

616
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: just his universal greeting for me, every single time, so

617
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: one bit since the day I met him, he is

618
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: the most consistent person. Now, wait, Lance, I have one

619
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: quick question for you, because in the music industry, I

620
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: know that like even back in the day, like Andy Gibb,

621
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: who was the biggest thing in the world, was married,

622
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: but they had to keep it hushed up. Was it

623
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: the kind of thing where you were not allowed to

624
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: talk about that you were dating. You were like always

625
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: supposed to be quote unquote available to all the fans.

626
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: Was that a thing still? It was? Yeah at that time,

627
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: that was definitely the message I was getting, um from

628
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: Lou Prom and my management, the record label. Um, they

629
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: would disguise it in a way if they knew that

630
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,479
Speaker 1: I was gay, they wouldn't say, hey, if you're gay,

631
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: don't come you know whatever, but they would always disguise like, well,

632
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: you know, people look up to you, so you can't

633
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: have a cigarette in your hand, you can't be seen

634
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: with a dream, can be seen with a girlfriend. Um,

635
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: so you know, they were kind of laying down the

636
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: law for us. So I knew being out gay was

637
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: definitely not you know, going to be a boy. Yeah,

638
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,479
Speaker 1: if a cigarette was going to do it, yeah, from

639
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: smoking cigarettes a smoking pole is not. Remember then the

640
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: conversation because it was a big deal for me when

641
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: Lance kind of quote unquote announced our relationship on Jay

642
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: Leno right, Oh? Is that where it was? It was

643
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: it was Leno and it was Um, you knew the

644
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: question was coming and the conversation had happened with Johnny

645
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: and the decision was made that you were going to

646
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: say that, yes, I was your girlfriend. And do you

647
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: remember was that conversate was I was I allowed to

648
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: be your girlfriend at that time? Because it was kind

649
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: of hard to deny that something was going on between

650
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: us because I was also recognizable. So like, is that

651
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: what happened? Yeah, because I mean the fans knew. You

652
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: know what, remember when Justin and Brittany first started dating.

653
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's like the fans know, and then at

654
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: some point you can't insult their intelligence anymore, and you

655
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: can't just pretend to pretend. So at some point you

656
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: have to, you know, come clean. And it was just

657
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: the time, because you know, I knew this was gonna last.

658
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: It was this was the one, This was the one. Yeah.

659
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: So I remember that conversation because I remember it was

660
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: actually one of the first times that I met the

661
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: other guy's girlfriends backstage. And I remember feeling a little

662
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: guilty too, because I knew that that conversation, that that

663
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: question was going to come up, and that Lance was

664
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: going to be allowed to say that yes, I was

665
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: his girlfriend, and um, and yet all of the other

666
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: girlfriends were backstage and we're not allowed to be talked about.

667
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: And then remember the Dry Myself a Crazy video. You know,

668
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: I originally wanted you to play my love interest in

669
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: that because all the other guys, all the other girlfriends

670
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: didn't get to be in the in the video. Remember,

671
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: it was a big deal, like should you do it

672
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: or not? And then we went with like, no, it

673
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: would cause too much of a controversy or something. I

674
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: don't know it was. I think it was they didn't

675
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: want again, they didn't want now my recognizability to take

676
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: people out of the emotion of watching the video, like

677
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: because the I don't know, I do remember. I remember

678
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: it being a big back and forth about whether or

679
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: not and I was so bummed. I was there and

680
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: watching everybody film it and I was like just taking

681
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: pictures of everyone and I wasn't I didn't get to

682
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: play Lance's girlfriend in the video, but all the other

683
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: guy's girlfriends videos. You think of emotions, you know, that's

684
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: take that out of all of our music video always

685
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 1: very deep. There's so much image management going on. It's crazy.

686
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I feel very lucky in a lot

687
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: of ways. Actor. We did not mean yeah, no, not

688
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: to that to that extent. I mean it really wasn't

689
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: so much easier back then because you know, you could

690
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: stay hidden. There was no social media, no one had

691
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: a camera, and so whatever story you told the public,

692
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: they just had to believe, you know, unless someone you know,

693
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: printed some stupid thing. Uh, there was no proof. Now

694
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: you got proof every step of the way, so you

695
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: can't hide yourself. So I think that's why so many

696
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: people are able to come out sooner and you know,

697
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: and live their real life because authenticity is key and

698
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: everyone can see right through it. Yeah, yeah, you're right.

699
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: Now there's so many more opportunities for people to call

700
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: you out for being in authentic, whereas back then everything

701
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: was very controlled. You had your public appearance and then

702
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: you left, and the only people who really got to

703
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: see you in those public appearances were the people that

704
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: were at the concert. Like I remember going to in

705
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: scene concerts and for a while I was wearing a wig,

706
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,479
Speaker 1: like I would wear a short wig so that people

707
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't recognize that it was me there to see Lance.

708
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: And then it was like, well, it's only these people

709
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: in this arena who are going to know. They're not

710
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: going on Twitter to say that they saw me there,

711
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: And yeah, it was it was. I mean, the image

712
00:36:50,080 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: management was just insane. Now, limfa have a like fictitious

713
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: world question. So if you guys had to go on

714
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: the road now as in sync, but you were going

715
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: to have somebody fill in for justin kind of like

716
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: the way John Mayer is now in The Grateful Dead.

717
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: Who who do you think you would choose to be

718
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: in that role? Oh? I know exactly who would be?

719
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: Is really great with harmonies. Know a lot of people

720
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: don't know that. He kind of came from his college

721
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: he studied music and amazing with harmonies. Darren Chris. I've

722
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 1: known Darren for years. He's a great guy, a great guy.

723
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: Darren is a great guy. He loves boy bands, He's

724
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: done that like that. He would just be perfect fit

725
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: with us. Yeah, oh that's a great one. Again. Can

726
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: I make a suggestion somebody I'd like to see T Pain?

727
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: T Pain? Yes, okay, I want T Pain to go

728
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: on the road within Sync. I mean that would be

729
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm down, I'm so dad. Okay, you know,

730
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. Is he good with harmonies? You know,

731
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll ask you. I don't know. Let

732
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: me let me, let me just ask people don't have

733
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: this anymore. So yeah, I guess it doesn't matter. So

734
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, now Lance is married, happily married to Michael.

735
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: Please tell me a little bit about your husband. Your babies.

736
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: You guys are dads to two twins. How old are they? Now?

737
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: Give give us a little background on your personal life.

738
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: So they were born October thirteen, so they're coming up

739
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: on ten months now. And I mean, how quickly this goes.

740
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: Everyone says it like it will fly by, and it

741
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: has gone so quickly. Like I said, the days are long,

742
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: but the days are long, but the nights are like

743
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: like um, and thank god they sleep throughout the night.

744
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 1: Now that is the best thing ever. Um. But yeah,

745
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: they've just been incredible. We've had such sweet little babies.

746
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: They let us sleep. Uh. They don't make too much noise,

747
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: which is nice. They're quiet babies. They they're wearing the

748
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: adorable head shaped helmets currently, aren't they? They are. They

749
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: have two more weeks with their little helmets. Um, and

750
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: they have decals on like my son's has Marvel all

751
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: over it. And then my girl probably just got done yesterday.

752
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: She has two weeks left in and they just got done.

753
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: But she's like an Amelia Earhart. Oh and here's this

754
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: is Alexander. Oh wow, now hi buddy. So Lance's kids

755
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: are about like almost exactly a month younger than my

756
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: baby Keaton. And we went to Lance's house, Lance and

757
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: Michael's house for a Memorial Day barbecue and I got

758
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: to hold the babies. And I have a picture of

759
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: me holding Alexander in one arm and holding Keaton in

760
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: the other. And Alexander, a month younger than Keaton, is

761
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: easily twice the size of Keaton. Cut. I have no

762
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: idea why Keaton is so small, Like wait, wise, he's

763
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: in like the eighth percentile or something, and Alexander is

764
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: just sitting next to him. He's got these gorgeous thick,

765
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: chunky little thighs, and Keaton's like it is he is

766
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: a big boy. And his sister has like the little

767
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: hand and little's feet and he's just has his huge

768
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: football player hands. Yeah, they're so sweet, but it was

769
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: really fun to have It's like Simon about him. I

770
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: just like he looks Simone to me. So I think

771
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: he's going to be a very like rock solid, a

772
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: solid kid. Yeah, wait till, like writer said, wait till

773
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: they start like pulling up and walking. Uh. Keaton is

774
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: about to start walking. He has been, Um, he's been

775
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: using his walker and running around the house with his walker,

776
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: and I think any day now he's going to let

777
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 1: go of that thing and just take off. And um

778
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: now I'm I'm looking at this gorgeous table behind you

779
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: and it looks very sharp and pointy and like you

780
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: have beautiful things on it. There's all these bumpers over

781
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: see put the bumpers on flat bumpers, and they don't

782
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: they're not allowed to go into this room because it's

783
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: a very hazardous. My My whole house is very angular,

784
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: death traps everywhere exactly. It's the point we had the

785
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: baby proofers come over and about five days ago, and

786
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: so of the whole house is great baby proof, but

787
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: they're like stuck in this certain area. Um, this new

788
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: room that we built we thought was going to be

789
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: just a part of our living room. No, it's now

790
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: the kid's room and the baby room. Yeah, that's what happens. Yep.

791
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: Every area starts to get taken over and they're expensive

792
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 1: and you don't sleep selling it. It's great. Yeah, don't

793
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: you want some? Oh man, well, Will's daughter stepdaughter is

794
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: um is getting married. So getting married. Yeah, she's talk

795
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: about it going fast. I always tell I always tell

796
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: people being a parents the easiest thing in the world.

797
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: My kid came with her own apartment in a four

798
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: oh one k. I mean, come on, simple, simple being

799
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: a parent. Well, what do you have going on work wise?

800
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: Where like what I know you are? You have a

801
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: whole production empire, you're producing things. You are just you

802
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: have a Rockos nightclub, um tell us, and you guys

803
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: do nineties nights right Well, on Fridays we do our

804
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 1: Flashback Friday, so we bring in the nineties two thousands

805
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: of music, which is so fun, especially for people our

806
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: generation that miss going out and actually dancing on a

807
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: dance floor. That's what we wanted to recreate and it's

808
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: been great. I want to I want to pitch to

809
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: you my idea that I had the other day. I

810
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: want to do. I want to do a parents night,

811
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: but a parents night for parents like me, which is

812
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: I am not cool enough to stay up until ten

813
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: or eleven o'clock to go to a club. What if

814
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: we did a nightclub from like six to ten, okay

815
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: six pm? You have ur Dervs you play great music,

816
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 1: the music we want to hear, but also you throw

817
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: in the songs that the kids are super into, like

818
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: for example, Adler's just recently really got into zombies, and

819
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: so I'm listening to Zombies Disney Channel music all the

820
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: time and I love it even when there's not in

821
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: the car. The music is incredible. Are you kidding me?

822
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: With the song Bam? That song is a bop? I

823
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: want to hear the nineties music from my time, but

824
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: from the hours of six pm to ten pm with

825
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of my kids music that I actually

826
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: like and enjoy, so thrown in. It's a dusk club,

827
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: night club, correct, thank you very much. I like it.

828
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: I think seven to tend is probably going to be more.

829
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: I think that's great because the club don't even get

830
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: started going to So that's what I said. You guys

831
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: are having wasted hours, But for for people like me,

832
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: I want to be able like I can go to

833
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: I can go to the dusk club from seven to

834
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: nine and still be asleep by ten pm. But I've

835
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: had a great time. I've danced, I've listened to the

836
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: stuff I really like. So anyway back the kid I

837
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: was gonna say you throw it on me bad cheeseburger

838
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: and fries for Danielle and she's just mentioned her greatest

839
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: night ever. Anyway, you know, some of us didn't even

840
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: get to go to proms, so you guys still had

841
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: an awesome problem. I couldn't. I was home. I just

842
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: couldn't get a date. So I literally didn't go to

843
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: my problem dances. That is true. Well, we didn't have

844
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 1: dances and I went to you know, tiny, tiny square graduates.

845
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, we didn't have a prom at all.

846
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: But I did go to eighth grade dances like seventh

847
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: and eighth grade. Um, I did go to dances in

848
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: the local public school because I had a girlfriend who

849
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: went to those, so I went to those. Those were

850
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: the best. That was kind of enough for Yeah, Stairway

851
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: to Heaven would start and it would be this great

852
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: slow dance until the fast part of the song started.

853
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: Then you didn't know what to do. So Heaven that's

854
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: like seventies. No, I'm trying to say what it was.

855
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: It was like would have been. Remember it always went

856
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: in with more than words. That's more down the club,

857
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: my friend extreme could close down to dance absolutely, yeah,

858
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: or everything I do, I do it for you. Yeah,

859
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: that was more of the early nineties. Still started to Heaven.

860
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: They played Atan's played It still played at school dances

861
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: all the time. It's like the quintessential dance song. And

862
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: then it's like the guitar starts and you're like, no,

863
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. In Connecticut where they're

864
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: still using facts, are we doing this again? We're doing

865
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: this again. By the way, I want to take this

866
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: moment to thank Lance for coming up with the pod

867
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: Meats World idea. Man. Um, We're so happy he came

868
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: up with this idea because it's really it's really made

869
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: us all closer. And yeah, you know he doesn't get

870
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: enough credit for brand, does he doesn't thank you? Well, Lance,

871
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for being here with us,

872
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,959
Speaker 1: thank you for taking this time. And I also want

873
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: to thank you and say to everybody that, like, while

874
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: Lance and I met, and I thought he was the

875
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: one true love of my life and that I thought

876
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: I was going to marry him. Um, the biggest, like

877
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: and most amazing takeaway from me from our relationship is

878
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: that Lance is still one of the greatest is a

879
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 1: great love of my life. It is not a romantic

880
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: love and it never was a romantic love. I thought

881
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: I had hopes for it to be, but it was not.

882
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: But like it didn't matter that that um Lance was

883
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: gay and that I was not going to end up

884
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: marrying him. Like we have maintained a friendship through all

885
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: these years, and of course there have been times, like

886
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: even with Writer and Will, with us, there have been

887
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 1: times where we've gone a year or two without speaking

888
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: or seeing each other, and you fall in and out

889
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: of each other's lives as things go on, but like

890
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: every time you come back together, it's like no time

891
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,479
Speaker 1: has passed. And Lance is forever one of those people

892
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: for me, And he is like one of my most cherished,

893
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: cherished friends and a cherished person in my life, the

894
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: same way Writer and Will are. And yeah, I just

895
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for being such a wonderful

896
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: person to me. Well did my friend. It's a you know,

897
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: it's very rare that you meet people that, yeah, you can,

898
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: you know, have that connection with that you can go

899
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: a couple of years, i't even like seeing each other,

900
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: but then just pick up right where we left off.

901
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: And you know, I have a handful of people like

902
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: that in my life. And you're definitely one of those.

903
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: And uh, I could not be happier that year in

904
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: my life. I love you, love you well. Thank you

905
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: everyone for joining us for this wonderful episode of Pod

906
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: Meets World. We uh send us your thoughts about what

907
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: you think about some of our pop culture episodes and

908
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: what you want to hear more of and what you

909
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: want to hear less of. You can write to us

910
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: at Pod meets World Show at gmail dot com. Make

911
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: sure you follow us on Pod meets World Show on

912
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: Instagram and Lance, where can we follow you? Um? Oh

913
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: yeah at lants Bass Instagram. TikTok's basically all I do

914
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: these days. I'm kind of getting rid of most of

915
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: it because good for you, Lance, you have a very

916
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: successful TikTok. You go, you go viral all the time. Well,

917
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 1: it's fun because is on TikTok. It's like your own

918
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: like TV network, right, so you get to entertain people

919
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: um and there and there. It's just fun. And I

920
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: don't see any negativity yet. That's what I said about

921
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: Twitter years ago. I'm like, oh, it's so positive, Um,

922
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: the supportive group. I didn't think everybody was so reasonable,

923
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: but this is amazing. So hopefully TikTok will stay that

924
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: way in my feed, and I'll actually enjoy it not

925
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: have to get rid of it a lot. Do you

926
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: come up with all your own TikTok's idea? What? What

927
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: are your like? Do you have people who help you

928
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: come up with some of your like genius social media

929
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: stuff or is it all you? It's just whatever naturally fits.

930
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: The good thing about TikTok is the trends already there

931
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 1: most of the time, so it's just trying to remake

932
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: this trend, so they make it easy for you. I

933
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: need to get into that because I don't like what

934
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 1: you just said. I know that there are TikTok trends,

935
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: but I don't even know where to find them. So

936
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: can you give me a TikTok tutorial? Want to give

937
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: you a tori. You're gonna come over with the kids.

938
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna swim. We're gonna make your first TikTok okay effect,

939
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 1: I love I love that idea. I already have TikTok's

940
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: I have I have, I have some out there, but

941
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: you can make my first trending one. Okay, Yeah, You're

942
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: gonna make them better? Thank you? Please? Please? Yeah, please

943
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: please please bring me to that the babies in the

944
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: social media day. Yeah, that sounds like Will's perfect afternoon.

945
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you for being here with us.

946
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: Uh and we will see you all next time. All right,

947
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: So good to see you all. Thanks. Hi. Well, that

948
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: was really fun to have him come on the show.

949
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: I um, I did not know that story writer about

950
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: Mickey Dolan's being behind him talking about the TV show.

951
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: It was one of those legendary moments like where he

952
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: realized it and I realized it, and it was like,

953
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: oh God, because you know, it's hard to you know,

954
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: it's it's so um. You know, we've talked maybe a

955
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 1: little bit about this, but like the distinction between being

956
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: a TV actor and a movie actor, and like, at

957
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: the time, the idea of a band doing a TV

958
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 1: show just seemed kind of cheesy. You were like, you know,

959
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: small potatoes for somebody like and Sync, who are huge

960
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: at the time. But of course back in Mickey's day,

961
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: like they were a band created for a TV show,

962
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: and and their TV show had been such a massive

963
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: head it was like they're bigger than the Beatles. They

964
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: were literally for two years, bigger than the Beatles, And yeah,

965
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: you know, I think for from Justin's perspective, who obviously

966
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: went on to become a movie actor, and you know,

967
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: the idea of like being on a TV show with

968
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: his band was just so cheesy piculous. But then he

969
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: turns around and like the one person you can't express

970
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: that sentiment too, is right there. That's hilarious. Yeah. I

971
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time with Justin and Lance because,

972
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: like I said, you know, very similarly even to our show,

973
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: you kind of get sectioned off based on who you're

974
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: closest in age two because there's a big difference in

975
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: age when you're that young, you know, eleven to thirteen,

976
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 1: The differences there are huge. The other guys like already

977
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: in their twenties. They were, Yeah, I mean Chris is

978
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: the oldest, right, Chris is the oldest, and he's like

979
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: ten years older than just and and Lance ten or

980
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: eleven years older, and I think j C is at

981
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: least three years older and Joey's four or five years older.

982
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: So like, they were definitely, and it's not that I

983
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: didn't spend time with them too. They also they also

984
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time as a as a group,

985
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: and I got to be a part of that, But

986
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: the two of them were very close and um, and

987
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: so I spent a lot of time with the two

988
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: of them, and they were I mean still to this day,

989
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 1: Justin is one of the funniest people I've ever spent

990
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: time around in my entire life. He's laugh out loud funny.

991
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: Just few of us. I'm so lucky to know the

992
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: laugh out loud funny people like Wilford Ll Justin timber Lake,

993
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: but Dre. The thing that I loved about the end

994
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: stinct guys. And and this is something that um, you

995
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: obviously know a lot better than I do. But they

996
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: seemed to genuinely like each other. And that's something where

997
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: it was like us doing the show. I mean that

998
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: matters that you can tell when the chemistry is there,

999
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 1: and you know, know when you're putting people, you're putting

1000
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: a cast together, you're putting a band together. You never

1001
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: know when the chemistry is gonna work and when it doesn't.

1002
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 1: And all those end synct guys, when they got together,

1003
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: you could tell they genuinely enjoyed making art together, spending

1004
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: time together, traveling together. I mean, you're a family instantly, um,

1005
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: And that makes makes a huge difference, so that was cool.

1006
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: Every time you saw them together, it was like, oh,

1007
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: they like each other. Yea, the genuinely like each other.

1008
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: That's a good thing. Yeah, I know, it is. It's

1009
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 1: it is a perfect Our show is a perfect representation

1010
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: of that in the TV form. We we genuinely enjoyed

1011
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: each other and what we were doing, and I think

1012
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: it comes across. I mean, people talk about that with

1013
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: our podcast, which I'm really happy to see. People can

1014
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: tell that we are you know, we genuinely love each

1015
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,959
Speaker 1: other and we're supportive of each other, and we also

1016
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: rip each other, which is really fun. It's part of

1017
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: the love. Yeah. Well, I love you guys. We've all

1018
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 1: been doing this for We've only been recording for three

1019
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: and a half hours today. Are you sure you don't

1020
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: want it? Should we jump into that other podcast idea? Righta? Allright,

1021
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 1: love it? Let's go. So we we opened on the draft.

1022
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: Here we go when sure is smelly? All right, thanks

1023
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: for being here. We love you all. Pod Dismissed pod

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00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: meets World is an I heart podcast produced and hosted

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00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: by Daniel Fishel Wilfred L and Ryder Strong. Executive producers

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00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: Jensen Carp and Amy Sugarman, Executive in charge of production,

1027
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:21,240
Speaker 1: Danielle Romo, producer and editor, Tara sud Boch, producer, Lorraine

1028
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: Vierez Engineering Boy meets World super fan Easton Allen. Our

1029
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: theme song is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon. Follow us

1030
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: on Instagram at Pod Meets World Show or email us

1031
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: at Pod Meets World Show at gmail dot com