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Speaker 1: your host, Kyle Yeomans.
Speaker 2: Today is Thursday, February twentieth, and we are sixty three
Speaker 2: days away from the NFL Draft in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
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Speaker 3: It's Miller time. We've got Tommy Yarsh.
Speaker 2: Brian brought us Vatch Lombardi with Chris Beave in the
Speaker 2: back of Kyle Yeomans. Glad you're with us. Had a
Speaker 2: great show on Tuesday. I'm excited about this one as well.
Speaker 2: We're gonna do some dueling mock drafts today, okay, but
Speaker 2: not the go to dueling mock drafts where Foch's got
Speaker 2: a mock draft and Brian's got a mock draft.
Speaker 3: We're gonna duel within each other. We're gonna duel our
Speaker 3: own mock drafts.
Speaker 2: But we we have some some different ideas here.
Speaker 3: Brian.
Speaker 2: We're gonna go offense versus defense. That's the duel offense v.
Speaker 3: Defense.
Speaker 4: I hey, body dresda. I case stand I case standable.
Speaker 4: But we go.
Speaker 3: Uh you did your research though, right, Huh you did
Speaker 3: your research? What you mean your mactra?
Speaker 5: Man, Boy, Let's let's get the work man, Let's do this.
Speaker 4: What were we talking about?
Speaker 6: We know?
Speaker 4: So now I'm playing.
Speaker 3: I got you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I figured when you go through the first three rounds,
Speaker 2: we're picking at twelve, forty four, seventy six. No trade ups,
Speaker 2: no trade backs, no sort of finagling to get more picks.
Speaker 2: It's your first three picks and you can either go
Speaker 2: all offense or all defense. We've done one of each,
Speaker 2: and we're gonna pick which one is our favorite. We're
Speaker 2: gonna go through them all. So we're gonna start on
Speaker 2: the offensive side of things. Brian, since this was your
Speaker 2: brain child, I love the idea that you came up
Speaker 2: with on our group message last night. I want you
Speaker 2: to start it off.
Speaker 3: Kick it off. Who is your top three to take
Speaker 3: a look at. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna look, well,
Speaker 3: I'm you want me to pick them one, two, three,
Speaker 3: because that's how I would do this. This is this
Speaker 3: is this is you want to go buy one? Yeah? No,
Speaker 3: this is the idea. Is I want you to pick
Speaker 3: rounds one, two, and three. Okay, all offense. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: want you to pick rounds one, two, and three all defense,
Speaker 3: and tell me why you would take one or the other.
Speaker 3: Over with, I'll start this. I'm gonna pick Genty, the
Speaker 3: running back from Boise in the first round. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: pick Jackson from Ohio State the guard in the second
Speaker 3: round is what I'm gonna do. And I'm gonna take Royals,
Speaker 3: the wide receiver from Utah State in the third round. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's my offense. That if you said pick all offense,
Speaker 3: it's Genty, It's Jackson the guard from Ohio State, and
Speaker 3: Royals the wide receiver. That's that's my first submission for
Speaker 3: my offensive players that I would take for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2: So why did you go? I mean, I'm assuming gent
Speaker 2: is your best player available at one?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Why'd you go with Jackson at two? What were some
Speaker 2: of your other options along the way?
Speaker 3: I took him because I know that the situation potentially,
Speaker 3: I feel like that he is going to be one
Speaker 3: of my best players on the board when it comes
Speaker 3: to offense. I've already addressed the running back situation with jenty.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think, like, Okay, I probably have lost
Speaker 3: some of my wide receivers along the way that I
Speaker 3: really really like, And so I was thinking about this, like, Okay,
Speaker 3: how's the best thing? Can I address the wide receiver
Speaker 3: in the third round and feel comfortable with that? And
Speaker 3: I felt more comfortable addressing the guard in the second
Speaker 3: round than I did, say, waiting until the third round
Speaker 3: to do it. So that's why I did it. I
Speaker 3: went ahead and did it. I think Jackson is a
Speaker 3: tremendous player. I think he's only going up boards. I
Speaker 3: think Jackson could potentially could be a first round guy
Speaker 3: when this is all said and done. If you look,
Speaker 3: if everybody's carrying thirteen guys, fourteen guys on the board,
Speaker 3: they're probably I'll be going to have Jackson. He could
Speaker 3: probably be a guy to be at the end of
Speaker 3: the So but I'm just taking a chance to there
Speaker 3: because he's the second round grade on my board. So
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go ahead and say I'm gonna take a
Speaker 3: guy with versatility. I feel better, like I said, I
Speaker 3: feel better about that that taken that type of player there,
Speaker 3: and maybe going back, like I said, I really do
Speaker 3: like Royals a lot from Utah State. I think he
Speaker 3: fits the mole of what you need to do, the
Speaker 3: opposite of what with Ceedee Lamp. A bigger body guy,
Speaker 3: a guy that could play the exit, guy that can
Speaker 3: run the inside routes, the guy that could do the slants.
Speaker 3: So that's why I addressed it there with him. So
Speaker 3: could have flipped the two garde receiver, then maybe guard,
Speaker 3: but I felt like the combination. I felt like I
Speaker 3: got the better player in the second round and then
Speaker 3: a player that I really really like in the third round.
Speaker 3: I think he had helped his football team. I like
Speaker 3: it overall.
Speaker 2: And it's funny because my offensive three is very similar
Speaker 2: because I also went Ashton gent One. I went with
Speaker 2: Tyler Booker. He was my highest rated guard. I took
Speaker 2: him in the second round. It was between him and
Speaker 2: Jackson because I was looking at the same kind of
Speaker 2: thought process there, versatility on the offensive line, getting something
Speaker 2: up front for whether or not whatever happens with Tyler
Speaker 2: or with Zach Martin moving forward gives you that versatility
Speaker 2: one way or the other.
Speaker 3: And then then the third round, I went with a
Speaker 3: wide receiver.
Speaker 2: Royals wasn't there for me because he would have been
Speaker 2: my highest rated receiver, my top rated receiver that was
Speaker 2: available with Saveon Williams from TCU. And I think that's
Speaker 2: a good compliment to see thee lamb, the six foot four,
Speaker 2: six foot five frame, we'll see what he measures at
Speaker 2: the combine is intriguing to me. That's something that you
Speaker 2: don't have on this football team right now. And it
Speaker 2: gives you a bona fide number two receiver that can
Speaker 2: kind of battle for those snaps, battle for those targets,
Speaker 2: and so same kind of thought process here. But I
Speaker 2: went gent Booker Williams as my offensive guys, what did
Speaker 2: you go with?
Speaker 3: Botch?
Speaker 5: So my first player that I went with was Matthew Golden.
Speaker 5: And this isn't a name that you hear a whole bunch,
Speaker 5: you know, going at twelve overall, but he's he's a
Speaker 5: number one receiver on my board, you know. And if
Speaker 5: you have a first round grade on him, I know
Speaker 5: Brown will smam me upside the head if I window
Speaker 5: dress my board there.
Speaker 4: So I didn't.
Speaker 5: And plus we have to be comfortable with the idea
Speaker 5: that Jensy may not you know, may not be there.
Speaker 5: He could go nine, ten, eleven or whatever.
Speaker 4: Right. But then there's this next idea that I had.
Speaker 5: That the run on backs could go right after twelve
Speaker 5: and right before forty four. So we just can't be
Speaker 5: laying around sick man and upset. So all right, do
Speaker 5: we go running back?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 5: Do I reach a little bit for running back or
Speaker 5: do I wait to the third round for my back there?
Speaker 5: So instead of reaching, I just went with my best guy,
Speaker 5: and that's Tyler Booker. Also, Tyler Hooker is a bona
Speaker 5: fide dude. I'm gonna plug him in the right guard
Speaker 5: and we're gonna be powerful on the inside there, powerful center,
Speaker 5: powerful right guard, powerful left guard. But I got to
Speaker 5: take a running back somewhere or maybe not, you know, cool?
Speaker 5: Do you know do we wait till the fifth round
Speaker 5: to go running back? I cowered it out.
Speaker 4: I didn't.
Speaker 5: So I took RJ. Harvey from UCF. I took him
Speaker 5: in the you know, in round in round three, runner catcher,
Speaker 5: you can work on this blocking, but wein in round three?
Speaker 5: What you're looking for, you know, but big play player.
Speaker 5: And I would hope that the Cowboys have signed somebody
Speaker 5: to go along with Harvey, And uh, that's my that's
Speaker 5: my that's my layout. You know, I thought about tight
Speaker 5: end somewhere, and I snapped myself out if I didn't
Speaker 5: want to go, I thought about doubling down at running
Speaker 5: back somewhere, doubling down at wide receiver. But we're going one, two,
Speaker 5: and three, So I just kept standing right there. And
Speaker 5: if there's any jumpouts that anybody's looking at it, like damn,
Speaker 5: you know, how did that happen? I really think people
Speaker 5: are sleeping on Golden. I think Golden is largely underrated.
Speaker 5: Me and Brian just had this conversation. There's the media guys,
Speaker 5: and then there's the guys that's been doing this since
Speaker 5: last April. I think scout scouts are higher on Golden,
Speaker 5: just my personal opinion because the more you watch him, right,
Speaker 5: Golden was in the nineties earlier, and he's gonna work
Speaker 5: his way in these sixties. And we just saw this
Speaker 5: mock draft. Well he's at thirty. I think the combine
Speaker 5: is gonna happen. I think more film is gonna come out,
Speaker 5: and more people are just gonna come around. I think
Speaker 5: gold is gonna end up in the fifteen range.
Speaker 2: So you have him as your you said top receiver
Speaker 2: on your board. It was that he was even available.
Speaker 5: He was the he was the best receiver available. But
Speaker 5: he is a Round one guy for me. Okay, he's a.
Speaker 3: He's a.
Speaker 4: He is one of my thirteen first round grades.
Speaker 3: Wow, okay, so good to know. So do you have
Speaker 3: three guys or four better first round receivers?
Speaker 5: I have Iba, and I have Burden, and I have McMillan,
Speaker 5: So I got four.
Speaker 4: Travis is a corner for me.
Speaker 3: Okay, I could see that.
Speaker 7: So I'm going to expand on Golden a little bit
Speaker 7: because I'm fully with you on tell him.
Speaker 8: I was talking with somebody about this the other day.
Speaker 7: I think that I think that golden stock is going
Speaker 7: to rise even more after this combine because I feel
Speaker 7: like he might have a listen, listen. I feel like
Speaker 7: I feel like he might have a forty times similar
Speaker 7: to last year. Are you guys remember when Ady Mitchell
Speaker 7: ran his forty and everybody was like, WHOA what? Yeah,
Speaker 7: he turned out to be a real good player. Matthew
Speaker 7: Golden was a track dude in high school. And I'm
Speaker 7: telling you, I think he's going to wow some people
Speaker 7: with his speed. And I think he's a first round
Speaker 7: receiver too. I think the first round receiver.
Speaker 3: Let's go to Tommy. Let's go to Tommy's top. We'll
Speaker 3: have thanks one golden it too, and then I like
Speaker 3: the defensive time alone. He talks about John A. Baron
Speaker 3: in the second Yeah, well it's gonna get all these
Speaker 3: yeads coming. Yeah.
Speaker 7: I actually we had the same to first and second
Speaker 7: round pick. So I've got Gente in the first round.
Speaker 7: I think I've turned. I've flipped my opinion on Jens
Speaker 7: at twelve. If he's there at twelve, I think Dallas
Speaker 7: needs to take him.
Speaker 3: Welcome to the club.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I think he's that. He might not
Speaker 8: be there though, but that's that's the question.
Speaker 3: But he was there for all of us except for botch.
Speaker 2: Right, it wasn't there for you and your your simulation.
Speaker 2: So three other four I feel decent about that.
Speaker 3: If you look at Daniel Jeremiah real quick though, and
Speaker 3: he's got him at twenty one, I mean we we
Speaker 3: kind of. If you go through his mock draft, there
Speaker 3: there's some crazy, there's some fine. The way did Daniel
Speaker 3: Jeremiah has this there's not going to be a running
Speaker 3: back that you you might be looking at the third
Speaker 3: round running back if you're thinking about a running back
Speaker 3: in the second round. There might not be a running
Speaker 3: back that you like. You might be taking a third
Speaker 3: round running back in that round at four. If it all,
Speaker 3: if it falls like Daniel Jeremiah thinks it's going to fall,
Speaker 3: then you might be in a situation where you're like,
Speaker 3: and you know, and I'm not against Fotch at all
Speaker 3: talking about Harvey and guys like that. I think he's
Speaker 3: got the right idea there, but I don't know what
Speaker 3: forty four. That's the thing that I would worry about
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 7: So genty there at twelve for me, take him a
Speaker 7: second round. Donovan Jackson, the interior offensive lineman from Ohio.
Speaker 8: I think he fits best.
Speaker 3: Is back in good graces, timing to go see yeah,
Speaker 3: I told you so.
Speaker 8: I think he fits best as a guard.
Speaker 7: I don't think a Booker is higher for me, but
Speaker 7: I don't think he's going to be there at forty four,
Speaker 7: So that's why I picked Jackson. Then my third round
Speaker 7: is Trey Harris, the wide receiver out of Old miss
Speaker 7: kind of similar to what Brian was talking about with
Speaker 7: Royal as a big body ex receiver who can compliment
Speaker 7: Seedey Lamb on the outside. I think if he didn't
Speaker 7: get as banged up last year at Old Miss, he
Speaker 7: would have had a much better year. He'd be a
Speaker 7: lot higher on board. So it'll be an interesting week
Speaker 7: for him at the Combine too.
Speaker 2: It's tough to take injuries out of the equation, but
Speaker 2: I try and do so. Whenever you're you're scouting the film,
Speaker 2: I think Trey Harris has early second round film.
Speaker 3: For me.
Speaker 2: I have him very much so higher on my board
Speaker 2: because I'm trying to take it away. It wasn't anything
Speaker 2: that should linger into the NFL. They were nagging things
Speaker 2: here and there. You can knock a player for that
Speaker 2: if you want. But I think when you talk about
Speaker 2: the deep threat and the X receiver ability chance to
Speaker 2: make some plays over the middle of the field, man,
Speaker 2: I really do like Trey Harris.
Speaker 3: So if you're telling me you're getting him in the
Speaker 3: third round.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I'm ok in a great spot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think that's where Trey. I think
Speaker 3: that's where Trey Harris is.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 3: I think I think he's a third round receiver. And
Speaker 3: and like I said, there's there's some guys I when
Speaker 3: I start to compare, like the bottom of the guys.
Speaker 3: In Vach and I when we did the show last night,
Speaker 3: we explained about the grading skill. If you want to
Speaker 3: talk about how maybe the cowboys do their grading scale,
Speaker 3: and in the experience that I had there, you know,
Speaker 3: we talk about the grade. If you tell me a
Speaker 3: player is a one three eight, tell me he's they
Speaker 3: don't worry about the one that's just there the third.
Speaker 3: The three tells you the round, and then the eight
Speaker 3: signifies whether you have him at the bottom or the top.
Speaker 3: See you have a one three oh, that means you
Speaker 3: would tell me he's the top of the third round
Speaker 3: for me. If he's a one three nine, he's at
Speaker 3: the bottom of the third round for me. So I
Speaker 3: was thinking more that that he is more kind of
Speaker 3: like a on my board. I would have him like
Speaker 3: as a one three three, I kind of got him
Speaker 3: as the top of the third round. I have royals
Speaker 3: ahead of him, and royals would be for me like
Speaker 3: a one to three oh is where I would have
Speaker 3: him on my board. So that's just kind of if
Speaker 3: you're if you hear us talking about numbers, just know
Speaker 3: that the last number kind of tells you where he
Speaker 3: is within the round. The nine would be at the
Speaker 3: bottom of the round, the zero would be at the
Speaker 3: top of the round.
Speaker 2: Is that grading scale? This is just kind of sideways
Speaker 2: scout talk. I know, that's how they've done it across
Speaker 2: the hallway, Yeah forever?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Is that kind of universal throughout the everybody had different
Speaker 2: There's some teams to go higher numbers.
Speaker 3: There's some teams that like, for example, uh, the old
Speaker 3: what there used to be a company called National Scouting
Speaker 3: and we still the guys that run the combine actually
Speaker 3: National Scouting runs and their numbers were always high. So
Speaker 3: if you were if you were in the like the
Speaker 3: nine was the highest you could be, and then he
Speaker 3: went from nine all the way down. I do a
Speaker 3: seven point scale one. Yeah. Yeah. So but this the
Speaker 3: way the Cowboys do it, I think is really kind
Speaker 3: of neat because you can immediately if you tell me
Speaker 3: a player is a one two five, I know you
Speaker 3: got him in the middle of the second round, or
Speaker 3: oh he's a one two oh. That means you got
Speaker 3: him where you could potentially make him a one to
Speaker 3: one nine or something like that. You could put him
Speaker 3: in the bottom of.
Speaker 2: The first You guys might think I'm crazy, I've got
Speaker 2: Trey Harris. I've graded him as a second round player.
Speaker 2: I don't do the one two ones though, but I
Speaker 2: think he would be like a one two two for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be the top of the second round.
Speaker 3: I think he's that type of how do you have
Speaker 3: him in relation to like Besh and and.
Speaker 2: I have him ahead of Besh. I have him right
Speaker 2: there in the same pack. So the way I have
Speaker 2: him stacked is McMillan, Burden, Golden Abuka, then Harris. I
Speaker 2: have him as my fifth wide out, and I have McMillan,
Speaker 2: Burden and Golden as first on grades. A Buka is
Speaker 2: my top of the second round. It would be like
Speaker 2: a one two Oho in that category. And then I
Speaker 2: would have I would have Harris Royal's Hunter Tesz Johnson
Speaker 2: as my next guys. Okay, that's the way I have
Speaker 2: him graded right now already.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anyways, So okay, so those were all of I was
Speaker 2: waiting to see if that's all of the guys right
Speaker 2: out of that group. I mean, I think we're all
Speaker 2: pretty realistic in that category, right in terms of the
Speaker 2: one there.
Speaker 3: The one that I think that might be unrealistic is
Speaker 3: the Booker one. I think Booker's gonna go. I think
Speaker 3: he's gone at forty four. I know what, I know
Speaker 3: what Voss is doing. He's he's he's on I had, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's on his knees praying right there that the guy
Speaker 3: somehow gets to him. He ain't gonna make it, but man,
Speaker 3: but where you where you put him on your board
Speaker 3: is where that he's he has a chance to be taken.
Speaker 3: So uh, but that was the one I would have
Speaker 3: definitely thought about Booker there in my mind, I'm like,
Speaker 3: he's probably not gonna be there. So that's the one.
Speaker 3: I really like what did with Golden and Booker, and
Speaker 3: like I do like what you did. And I even
Speaker 3: like Harvey. I have Harvey's a third I mean, he's
Speaker 3: okay if you want to start talking about grades one,
Speaker 3: three to two. For Harvey, he's the he's the he's
Speaker 3: like my second guy in the in the third round
Speaker 3: for the running backs behind Samson from Tennessee.
Speaker 4: Br let mesh it this though, right, Booker may not
Speaker 4: make it to round forty four. Forty four cool.
Speaker 5: So if there's a run on just humor me, right,
Speaker 5: if there's a run on running backs, like we think
Speaker 5: a run on corners, like it could be. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: a run on tackles, D tackles, D tackles. That's a
Speaker 5: lot of cheering, bumping down gars for us Brown bros.
Speaker 5: Don't you think, like, is it impossible.
Speaker 3: For But I don't. I don't think it's impossible. But
Speaker 3: I think the tape is too good. I think the
Speaker 3: way that people struggle with offensive line play and the
Speaker 3: way that this guy plays and the power, the size,
Speaker 3: I think that it might be too because there might
Speaker 3: not be a lot of offensive linemen when we talk
Speaker 3: about him. It's very rare you poke holes in this guy.
Speaker 3: Everybody else seems to have some ability you can poke
Speaker 3: holes in their game. And I don't know if Bookers
Speaker 3: Somebody's gonna say, man, we sure we can. There's plenty
Speaker 3: of there's plenty of tackles, there's plenty of corners, there's
Speaker 3: plenty of this, not plenty of guards. And he's one
Speaker 3: of the best ones. Yeah, I could I could see
Speaker 3: I could see somebody saying, no, we can't pass on
Speaker 3: one of the best guys at his position. Those other
Speaker 3: guys we can kind of work with.
Speaker 5: I feel you, But I think, like you know, teams
Speaker 5: are always gonna look at value, right and you know
Speaker 5: where can you get the best value for your picking.
Speaker 5: I'm just looking at the board here, Brian. There's a
Speaker 5: lot of there's a lot of edges right there in
Speaker 5: the second round. Yeah, there's there's a lot of tackles
Speaker 5: on off.
Speaker 3: You're not scaring me with a run because the run,
Speaker 3: if the run comes, it's not gonna end. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying that if
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you like you get, you get,
Speaker 3: an edge goes off, an edge goes off, and then
Speaker 3: the third edge goes off. I'm not faced if I'm
Speaker 3: in that room because I'm thinking there's seven more guys
Speaker 3: up on that board before. You make me feel nervous.
Speaker 3: That's kind of how I would look at it.
Speaker 4: Take the edges, give me my guard man.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying. You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: There you running back maybe yeh second round? Okay, a
Speaker 2: lot of players on my second round.
Speaker 3: Okay, the run at the running back is that to me,
Speaker 3: if all of a sudden it's Genty's gone, Johnson's gone,
Speaker 3: Hampton's gone, Henderson's gone, and I'm trying to get there
Speaker 3: at forty four to take one. Now I'm a little
Speaker 3: bit like, you know, because now I'm into my third round.
Speaker 3: They're all good backs, they're all got you know, we've
Speaker 3: we've talked about Blue and I know, you know, you
Speaker 3: know we're gonna sit there and talk about I mean
Speaker 3: to me, everybody's saying, well, guy, you got to watch
Speaker 3: the ball security. It's been a problem. And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: but you see him catch the ball, you see him
Speaker 3: run the ball. You see people in angles try and
Speaker 3: get him, and he's running past all that the ball
Speaker 3: security stuff. I get it. You know, Tommy, you're gonna
Speaker 3: tell me, hey, man, he's gonna put the ball on
Speaker 3: the ground every once in a while. But man, the
Speaker 3: explosiveness he has. So him Smith from s m U,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm okay. But let the run happen at corner,
Speaker 3: Let the run happen at edge, Let the run happen
Speaker 3: at defensive tackle. That's not gonna make me nervous, especially
Speaker 3: if I'm looking for an offensive lineman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, keep bumping them down the board. You're not gonna
Speaker 2: get a ton of quarterbacks this year. Up in that conversation.
Speaker 2: You might get one or two.
Speaker 5: Every single year. There's just guards I love. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 5: I'll take that dude in the second round. And those
Speaker 5: dudes are like fourth round picks by the end of
Speaker 5: the thing, you know what I mean. I just think
Speaker 5: Booker has some opportunities some U Booker Jackson, Zabel those.
Speaker 3: Ask you this this, then is there a chance that
Speaker 3: that Gray Zabel from North Dakota State and and on
Speaker 3: Daniel Jeremiah's mock draft, he was he was he was
Speaker 3: picked in the in the twenties. Wow. And and Nick
Speaker 3: Harris yesterday when we were doing uh, you know the
Speaker 3: break Nick, you know, Derek Eagleton asked us, okay, give
Speaker 3: us a guy that the Cowboys could draft. Nick traded
Speaker 3: down to twenty four, picked up some stuff and I
Speaker 3: didn't know you could trade down. I just got pitch
Speaker 3: up book and went and but Nick traded down and
Speaker 3: he got Gray Zabel there. And but you wonder if
Speaker 3: that on some boards he's going to be higher than
Speaker 3: guys that were talking about Booker Jackson people like that.
Speaker 4: That's a little half of me, Brian.
Speaker 8: I was just saying the same thing.
Speaker 5: I like Zabel too, Like Zabel is versatile and maybe
Speaker 5: him playing everywhere, like you know, from from left tackle
Speaker 5: to right so right, maybe team's gonna look at that
Speaker 5: and value that. But just me personally, I would rather
Speaker 5: the one dude that whoop say is real good at
Speaker 5: his one job than the five dudes that just does
Speaker 5: everything pretty cool. So nah, I'm taking Booker and Jackson
Speaker 5: over Zabel.
Speaker 2: If you're taking Zabel, you're putting them at guard, right,
Speaker 2: I am putting them you know.
Speaker 3: The thing you have to think about with Zabel. And
Speaker 3: he did show you some stuff playing that's the Senior
Speaker 3: Bowl playing some center did some good stuff. I don't
Speaker 3: know about you guys, but every time I look up,
Speaker 3: I mean, me and Vox are doing you know, all
Speaker 3: these players talking about these players. And he was like,
Speaker 3: voch Is like, OK, I got three your I threw
Speaker 3: you another center. And every time I'm like, this is
Speaker 3: a fifth round center. You keep you know, you keep
Speaker 3: going down and maybe somebody will say Gray Zabel like
Speaker 3: as a second round center or a third round center.
Speaker 3: Uh if you you know, I mean, Boo is another
Speaker 3: kid that I you know, you look at him. Lampkin
Speaker 3: from North Carolina. I mean, we'll have a whole you
Speaker 3: do a whole show about Lampkin from North Carolina. If
Speaker 3: you want, never seen a player like that, that size,
Speaker 3: that weight playing, you know, and and talking about fourth
Speaker 3: round potential, you know that kind of stuff. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's a little I'll get your attention a little bit.
Speaker 3: But they might look at they might look at Zabel
Speaker 3: and say that he's as a guard. He's a lot
Speaker 3: higher on people's boards. I know Dane Bruger probably thinks
Speaker 3: he's the not probably Dane thinks he's the best center
Speaker 3: in the draft. That's I think saying a lot, Yeah,
Speaker 3: what do you think about Zabel?
Speaker 7: I would kind of agree with that thought process. He
Speaker 7: might be the best center in this draft.
Speaker 3: Or would you put him if he's at guard.
Speaker 8: If he's at guard, I'm with Vach.
Speaker 7: He's behind Jack Simbo State and and.
Speaker 2: If he's a tackle, I'm just just throwing out devils.
Speaker 8: He's a tackle. I mean, he's gonna slide even Okay.
Speaker 2: So it's going to depend on what the way that
Speaker 2: these teams view him. That's where he's going to be taken.
Speaker 3: If they if if the Cowboys are over.
Speaker 2: Here saying he's a center, then maybe twenty four to
Speaker 2: twenty five late in the first round is a good
Speaker 2: spot for him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then you've got.
Speaker 2: The Ravens over here that say, yeah, you know what,
Speaker 2: We've got Tyler Linderbaum here at center. Maybe we need
Speaker 2: a guard and maybe that's where we put him. He's
Speaker 2: going to be a second or a third.
Speaker 3: Okay, how do you see them in compare it to
Speaker 3: this is just some on my board, like Grant from
Speaker 3: h Grant from William and Mary, Cam Williams from Texas,
Speaker 3: Ursery from Minnesota. How do you compare him? Is he
Speaker 3: better than all three of those guys on your boards?
Speaker 7: His head tackle, he's better than Williams from Texas.
Speaker 3: He's above both those guys, Grant and Williams.
Speaker 5: And I hate it that Grant didn't do didn't do
Speaker 5: the bowl game thing. Yeah, I hated because he's at
Speaker 5: William and Mary and he's beating her these kids that
Speaker 5: play at schools where they play at Waim and Mary.
Speaker 5: But boy, it would have helped him to pieces to
Speaker 5: play against some you know, bigger town or whatever. So
Speaker 5: I was ready to move Grant up if he would
Speaker 5: have had a great bowl, But you know I gotta
Speaker 5: because he showed up. He showed up to the bowl
Speaker 5: game exactly. He whooped children. So I have to give the.
Speaker 2: Top offensive lineman for his day or for his team
Speaker 2: for sure by the opposing defensive lineman.
Speaker 3: So yeah, he came up and like you said, you
Speaker 3: whopped some guys.
Speaker 5: But I like Grant film much better. But Grant's playing
Speaker 5: against Towson and and some.
Speaker 3: Of the bm I and v and who being Virginia
Speaker 3: Military Institute.
Speaker 4: That's the school school.
Speaker 2: Well he well, he would Richmond Spiders pretty good and
Speaker 2: Spiders Richmond Spiders.
Speaker 3: Spiders has got some basketball lord too.
Speaker 4: I don't know this dress.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: So yeah, so man xabeled all the boxes that I
Speaker 5: had for him, he checked them them and and and
Speaker 5: Charles Grant did not, So I have to go Zabel
Speaker 5: over Grant, over Williams, and maybe even over Connery for Moregan.
Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, I do I do like Fox's draft though,
Speaker 3: I do. Out of the three. You just don't think
Speaker 3: Booker's possible. I just I'm not. I'm not sure about
Speaker 3: that one. I'm not if you can put.
Speaker 2: A percentage on, what would it be thirty eight thirty
Speaker 2: eight that he gets there thirty But the draft guy's
Speaker 2: gonna hold us down with all these running backs and edges.
Speaker 5: That's gonna go. There's a there's a lot of edges
Speaker 5: just bunched up in there, Kyle.
Speaker 3: And and you haven't you counted him last night? How
Speaker 3: many had you? And I study twenty I'm stopping twenty four.
Speaker 3: I'm not doing another, not working at another edge. No.
Speaker 3: But then there's like he's like, I got a couple
Speaker 3: of kids militia. I'm like, okay, he's right.
Speaker 4: You know, see, Kyle, this is the problem that we
Speaker 4: ran into.
Speaker 3: Right then, one hundred and twenty five players, and twenty
Speaker 3: five of them are edges.
Speaker 5: This is the problem. We don't we don't, we don't,
Speaker 5: we don't. We don't have a list of guys to watch.
Speaker 5: So we had to go find these way too early
Speaker 5: top one hundred boards, right, all right, cool, So we're
Speaker 5: trusting this way too early top one hundred boards.
Speaker 3: And you start seeing, oh, this guy is not very good.
Speaker 4: Those the same thing, And we.
Speaker 5: Thought that this raft was just gonna be putrid because
Speaker 5: I'm like, damn, these are the seconds that we're dealing with.
Speaker 5: But guys just keep falling down boards. And you know,
Speaker 5: there are guys that we have watched in February that
Speaker 5: are top seventy five, top one hundred guys for us
Speaker 5: and guys that we watched Wade when we first started
Speaker 5: this thing. We got him down in the fourth and field.
Speaker 5: Isaiah Bond is one of them. If I just hate
Speaker 5: on somebody riff, he was loving Isaiah. It was loving Isaiah.
Speaker 5: But vis what you think about the fast running Isaiah Bond.
Speaker 3: They think he's exavior worthy.
Speaker 4: He was eighteen on.
Speaker 5: PFF's big board, eighteen overall, and I'm watching, like, all right,
Speaker 5: this is what eighteen overall looks like this year. And
Speaker 5: the more I'm sorry, Tommy and you texted no, but
Speaker 5: the more wires he ain't even the best year on
Speaker 5: the team now, so the but the more, the more
Speaker 5: guys that we watched, not just wi Receiver was a Bond. Sorry, Isaiah,
Speaker 5: but I'm sure you're gonna do great. But the more
Speaker 5: guys we watched, those guys get bumped down the Boardley.
Speaker 7: But the thing with Isaiah Bond is is so much
Speaker 7: of its speed and that is the entirety of what
Speaker 7: he surrounds and he's got. And for the most part,
Speaker 7: you take that because that's something you can't teach. But
Speaker 7: in terms of you know, being able to hang on
Speaker 7: through contact and you know the injury stuff that he
Speaker 7: battled this year, and just being able to consistently produce.
Speaker 7: I mean, Kyle, I thank you. And I were talking
Speaker 7: about this the other day. Isaya Bond didn't have a
Speaker 7: hundred yard receiving game until his last season in college football.
Speaker 3: I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2: I think he's a little bit further down Golden's I
Speaker 2: was going to use Golden as the other example of
Speaker 2: was a guy that maybe wasn't on those top one
Speaker 2: hundred boards and is quickly rising, like you guys talked
Speaker 2: about at the beginning of the show, as a guy
Speaker 2: that maybe the NFL is higher on. Starting to see
Speaker 2: more of as we go along in the media, just
Speaker 2: trying to catch up along the way. All right, when
Speaker 2: we come back, we've got some Twitter on the twenty.
Speaker 2: Remember those offensive boards. We're going to hit the defensive
Speaker 2: side in the third segment, but we got to answer
Speaker 2: some questions from the fans before, so Twitter on the
Speaker 2: twenty right after this.
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Speaker 1: The Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show.
Speaker 2: Back here on the Draft Show, We've got a little
Speaker 2: bit of time to get our reads going. At the
Speaker 2: end of the segment, because right now, we got to
Speaker 2: get into some fan questions on some Twitter on the
Speaker 2: show Twitter on the twenty all right, Uh, when you
Speaker 2: look at a couple of these drafts and mock drafts
Speaker 2: that we're sending, we're dueling mock drafts between the first
Speaker 2: and the third segment, I kind of want to stay
Speaker 2: away from those. I know we get a lot of
Speaker 2: those questions as we go along. We're going to try
Speaker 2: and keep from those. Uh, when you're stacking your this
Speaker 2: is from Jeffrey on Twitter, not Jeffrey Kavanaugh, No, thank you.
Speaker 2: When you're stacking your interior defensive lineman.
Speaker 3: What are your top five?
Speaker 2: Tommy will let you start interior d lineman could be
Speaker 2: one tech or three tech.
Speaker 5: I got them right here. I got Mason Graham, Kady Grant,
Speaker 5: both from Michigan. That'd be good, Tyleek williams Ohio State,
Speaker 5: Derek Harmon from Oregon, and then we got y'all's favorite,
Speaker 5: Walter Nolan from Old Miss. That's how I got my
Speaker 5: my top five guys rink right now.
Speaker 7: Okay, so I've got one is Mason Graham from Michigan,
Speaker 7: Two is Nolan from Old Miss.
Speaker 8: Three is Grant from Michigan four Williams.
Speaker 7: We know the state five Dion Walker from Kentucky, and
Speaker 7: a close six is T. J.
Speaker 8: Sanders from South Carolina.
Speaker 4: So you got Walker over. I'm sorry. Running back one
Speaker 4: was over Harmon over Harmon.
Speaker 8: Yeah over, damn.
Speaker 3: He might be right, where's your Harmon?
Speaker 5: I got Harmon as my fourth guy fourth, and I
Speaker 5: got Walker way down here in the fourth round because
Speaker 5: he because he loafing on film.
Speaker 8: I've gone I've gone lower and lower. Off is this process?
Speaker 3: Don't let him change your mind?
Speaker 8: No, no, no, he's not changing my mind.
Speaker 3: I mean that.
Speaker 7: I mean even at the Senior Bowl, I was just
Speaker 7: not very impressed because he just so his size. He
Speaker 7: has no sorry to cut you off, he has no
Speaker 7: reason to not just bully everybody in front of him.
Speaker 7: But he gets so high and it doesn't work.
Speaker 5: Tommy, we are making the same point, the same absolute point.
Speaker 5: We was talking to Dame Brugler, right, shouts out to day.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: I don't mean to sound fancy saying or nothing like that, right,
Speaker 5: but I was like, dang, why is he loafing so
Speaker 5: much on film? And He's like, well, VI, she's playing
Speaker 5: sixty players a game, so maybe just tied. I'm like,
Speaker 5: I don't think that's a good enough excuse, dame or whatever.
Speaker 3: You gotta play that in the NFL times, but we
Speaker 3: never had. Dane's another guest.
Speaker 4: I ain't never came back to.
Speaker 5: But what's but when he got to the Senior Bowl, right,
Speaker 5: I was like, all right, we're gonna be prepared.
Speaker 4: He's gonna we're gonna be in shape.
Speaker 5: You know what your deficiencies are, and you better not
Speaker 5: have the same mess on film, it's time to go up,
Speaker 5: and boyd Deon Walker looked worse. So just in my mind,
Speaker 5: I think he's a guy that's not going to prepare
Speaker 5: and work hard and stuff. And I could be wrong,
Speaker 5: because Dedon Walker still got the talent to go out
Speaker 5: there and be a first round looking type dude. He
Speaker 5: got talent to do it. But based on what I
Speaker 5: seen on film and just how he came out at
Speaker 5: the Senior Boat, I got him way down there in
Speaker 5: the fourth So time, I don't I don't appreciate you
Speaker 5: having them tip five like that, especially over Harmon and
Speaker 5: Harmon don't slow down at all on film. Harmon don't
Speaker 5: loaf at all. So you got to think about your
Speaker 5: rankings thereout.
Speaker 8: That I think you make good points.
Speaker 3: I don't let him do that.
Speaker 8: Don't let him do that.
Speaker 3: This guy tries to this guy tries to you in
Speaker 3: the room all the time.
Speaker 8: I'm colaring my counter here.
Speaker 7: I think the reason why I've got Walker and Sanders
Speaker 7: higher than Harmon for Morgan, it's not that I don't
Speaker 7: like Harmon from Moregan is I think that, like you mentioned,
Speaker 7: Walker's got just rare combination of size and skill, and
Speaker 7: now it's just a matter of okay, can you teach
Speaker 7: the stuff that he struggles and can't do you trust
Speaker 7: somebody to teach him what he needs and in a
Speaker 7: if it's if it's Dallas, for example, I think Maddiberfluss
Speaker 7: has had success with this defensive lineman, Aaron white Kind
Speaker 7: has had success with this defensive lineman to where you
Speaker 7: can get to that point. I'm not saying it's a surefire.
Speaker 7: It is obviously up to him, but I think you
Speaker 7: can work with that.
Speaker 3: And then t J.
Speaker 7: Sanders, I mean I just think that his smart, like
Speaker 7: he plays the game so smart is what stood out
Speaker 7: to me when I watch his film, Just the way
Speaker 7: he goes about He's got a high football like you,
Speaker 7: and you mix that with how strong he is and
Speaker 7: how good he can diagnose a play early, identify where
Speaker 7: the ball's at, get to pursuit immediately, and sometimes it
Speaker 7: goes against him and gets taken out of the play.
Speaker 7: But when he can break it, he's got great rep
Speaker 7: shedding blocks the line of scrimmage, fires into the backfield
Speaker 7: really well, closes gaps and if you're talking about closing gas,
Speaker 7: which is what excuse me this dollas you're probably going
Speaker 7: to do against that run. You want those big body
Speaker 7: guys like a Dion Walker, t J.
Speaker 8: Sanders.
Speaker 7: And I'm not saying that Derek Harmon can't be that.
Speaker 7: I just think that at this point Walker and Sanders
Speaker 7: are better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, tell him, Tommy, it's a fist fight. You ever
Speaker 3: play that guy, man, It's a it's a fist fight
Speaker 3: all day, you know. And and you need to tell
Speaker 3: him he can get rid of blockers and he can
Speaker 3: just he can fight double teams power and he's got
Speaker 3: some strength. Yeah, tell him all those fantastic Tommy, how
Speaker 3: you love the violence he plays with during a Dion Walker?
Speaker 3: Could his hand use is good sometimes? There? Tim tell
Speaker 3: him sometimes.
Speaker 4: What you're saying something Deon Walker could.
Speaker 3: Be telling him he's got rare link for the position.
Speaker 3: Tell him, tell him that everything sometimes about getting bigger
Speaker 3: and tougher. Here, watch what do you say about that?
Speaker 5: Dion Dion Walker has the best highlights tape out of
Speaker 5: anybody in his in his class. But as highlights if
Speaker 5: you look at them bad players, though, you look at
Speaker 5: them low lights.
Speaker 4: Boy, what are we doing here?
Speaker 3: What is happening? Well, I'm telling the only thing he's
Speaker 3: the only problem he's got is he popped straight up
Speaker 3: out of the stance.
Speaker 8: That's what he can't be a sometimes player.
Speaker 5: And he let the kid from Arkansas State block And
Speaker 5: come on, you let the kid from.
Speaker 3: He did do that? Yeah, he showed up. About you
Speaker 3: start watching Arkansas State film?
Speaker 5: Hey, come yeah, I don't know the name, but e
Speaker 5: from Arkansas State.
Speaker 3: He was a woman. Hell, I thought you were watching
Speaker 3: Arkansas State film. I'm like, we can get some Arkansas.
Speaker 3: My man's a film snob.
Speaker 4: I saw my man play.
Speaker 3: It's Arkansas State. What you actually watched? Arkansas State?
Speaker 4: He sat down on Damn Jacob's buyer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but six three and fifteen out of the sun Belt,
Speaker 2: baby a proud grand view Texas native but TJ.
Speaker 4: SAMs being the hell out him, and I'm like, all
Speaker 4: right here here, there you.
Speaker 3: Go, all right, all right? Who's top guys? Told me
Speaker 3: it's a bully. He is a b Tell me some
Speaker 3: traft it's a draft show. Maybe not you the player?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah?
Speaker 4: Top five?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Who are your top five? The same as Fosh?
Speaker 3: So who am I arguing to get the butt?
Speaker 13: Hit?
Speaker 3: Twitter?
Speaker 2: Twitter?
Speaker 3: Twitter? Gram Graham can't Tom Demarca, Uh Phil Collins picture
Speaker 3: I'm seeing right now in my eyes, Uh Graham, Grant Williams,
Speaker 3: Harmon Nolan is how I got him? And and the
Speaker 3: one that's kind of got me is the Nolan one.
Speaker 3: And we've talked about that to to a point. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I would say, grand I am a Harman Grant, Nolan Sanders.
Speaker 3: That's the way I've got it. Those Michigan kids are good. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Michigan kids get good players, all right.
Speaker 2: Michael on Twitter says, name a projected first round player
Speaker 2: one of particular interest to the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: Could be anybody that the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Could be interested in, which you think is most likely
Speaker 2: to drop all the way out of the first round
Speaker 2: to be sitting there.
Speaker 3: If you move up the port on day two. This
Speaker 3: is like our this is like our corner Digs. Everybody's
Speaker 3: talking about digs potential at seventeen and ended up at sixty. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that kind of thing, trying to find something like that.
Speaker 2: So the thought process here is that they slide all
Speaker 2: the way out the names that we're talking about, the
Speaker 2: names that we're mentioning, and they're in the they're there
Speaker 2: on day two, could be worse than the corner from
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. And I say that only because of the injuries,
Speaker 2: injuries to the hips Revel. I just just look at
Speaker 2: the guys that have potential injury history, and I know
Speaker 2: that those are the two that show up on my
Speaker 2: board quite a bit.
Speaker 3: Is Revel. He's a first round guy from East Carolina.
Speaker 3: And then also Morson from But if you if you're
Speaker 3: a pro football focused fan, they have Morson as a
Speaker 3: player you should avoid. And it's not because of playing ability,
Speaker 3: it's because of the medical stuff. We need to see
Speaker 3: how that But that guy very well could be a
Speaker 3: guy that you talk about at you know, twelve, fifteen, eighteen,
Speaker 3: win those spots, but then he might end up at
Speaker 3: forty four because of the medical.
Speaker 7: I would uh Josh Simmons from Ohio State. There you go,
Speaker 7: his medical turns, there you go. I think that's another
Speaker 7: one to watch.
Speaker 2: You think there's anybody that's not medically flagged that could
Speaker 2: be there. I know you guys have had some some
Speaker 2: ups and downs with Will Johnson in the corner out
Speaker 2: of Michigan a little bit you. I think you both, Brian,
Speaker 2: I know what you and Votch both think are second
Speaker 2: round player, learn round player, Tommy. I don't know where
Speaker 2: you have Will Johnson specifically, but could he fall out
Speaker 2: of the first because he's a name that's at least
Speaker 2: being there. I looked at Bucky Brooks's most recent mock drafting.
Speaker 2: He had at eleven right before the Cowboys, and so
Speaker 2: he's at least in that range from a league media standpoint.
Speaker 7: I think when when when Will Johnson was playing at
Speaker 7: his best at Michigan, he was a first round caliber guy, sure,
Speaker 7: and it's.
Speaker 3: Just a master.
Speaker 7: Twenty three season was incredible, and I think we talked
Speaker 7: about this a little bit in the past, fellas where
Speaker 7: he started here and then every year it was just
Speaker 7: a little bit a little bit lower. And maybe that's
Speaker 7: just because guys didn't go his ways often and he
Speaker 7: didn't get to see it as much. But I still
Speaker 7: thinks he's a really talented player. I think unanimously. The
Speaker 7: concern is his speed, and that's and that's going to
Speaker 7: be something that you've got to watch for at the
Speaker 7: at the NFL level.
Speaker 8: Am I wrong on that?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 3: No, No, I mean no, I was just I was
Speaker 3: in my mind. I'm looking name, I'm looking at peers
Speaker 3: from Tennessee. And if you start to talk about it, people,
Speaker 3: you know, he's kind of a first round guy. People
Speaker 3: are talking about you need to dig in on this
Speaker 3: kid a little bit, you know, dig in. There's some
Speaker 3: stuff you need to find out about him. Could that
Speaker 3: lead him to be you know, some character concerns off
Speaker 3: the field concerns. Could it been he's talking about it
Speaker 3: being a first round guy and now he's he's available
Speaker 3: for you at forty four. But if you're just talking
Speaker 3: about ability, then we just talk about Booker potentially as
Speaker 3: being that guy that you know, could be all of
Speaker 3: a sudden he's I don't think so, but maybe somehow
Speaker 3: he gets to.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's very high on my board. He's cornerback
Speaker 5: two for me and I'm just looking at these mics.
Speaker 5: I'm looking at these big boys, man, and they just
Speaker 5: not respect him like I think he should be respected.
Speaker 5: He's not a character issue guy. He didn't you know,
Speaker 5: he's not a trouble dude, and he hadn't been hurt
Speaker 5: of nothing like that. But I just think I just
Speaker 5: think PFF wrong. So, you know, so I got himigh
Speaker 5: on my board. But if he can get to you
Speaker 5: at forty four.
Speaker 7: I think Barrett is there at forty four, I'm going
Speaker 7: to go down this entire hallway we've got back here
Speaker 7: and go backflips.
Speaker 3: The whole way down.
Speaker 4: If it's Aaron four at forty four, that's a party.
Speaker 7: And everybody in the draft room should be doing cartwheels
Speaker 7: around the room. If he's there at forty four, Okay,
Speaker 7: I'll learn how to do a backflip.
Speaker 3: I'll do one with you.
Speaker 8: You know, I don't know atletic, So I got I
Speaker 8: gotta figure it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what were you saying, Brian, No, I was just
Speaker 3: the baron when you know, Yeah, you would, you'd be hopeful.
Speaker 3: And I know that on Daniel Jeremiah's mock draft he
Speaker 3: had him going ahead of Will Johnson. Yeah, so I
Speaker 3: think I think Daniel Jeremiah is talking to people within
Speaker 3: the within the NFL world about the scouts and stuff,
Speaker 3: but where they think Baron I've kind of compared him
Speaker 3: more to a to Trent McDuffie more so than a
Speaker 3: Brian Branch. I know, people like to think he's a
Speaker 3: Brian Branch. He's more Trent McDuffie. To me, he's a
Speaker 3: real corner. Real corner.
Speaker 2: Is this is this is kind of a very specific question,
Speaker 2: but I don't I do want to see if we
Speaker 2: can hit on it. Have you guys watched Pat Bryant
Speaker 2: and Ricky White. We watched I watched Pat Brian. Let's
Speaker 2: talk about him. What are their strengths and weaknesses? This
Speaker 2: is from Carly on Twitter. Uh and would either fit
Speaker 2: in that fifth round conversation for the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: When they have a muddiness of picks. I think Pat White,
Speaker 3: I mean I think Pat Bryan. I think he's better
Speaker 3: than a fifth round player. I think I have him
Speaker 3: on that. Let's see where I happened. I think I
Speaker 3: got him in the four by the way, Yeah, No,
Speaker 3: he's a he's a he's a fine receiver. Let me
Speaker 3: let meat. You got something on him if you want
Speaker 3: to if you want to go to the top of
Speaker 3: your head or good size.
Speaker 5: He's about six three or so, gets off the line
Speaker 5: of scrimmage really well for me. Physical, you know, physical
Speaker 5: with the ball in the air. Yeah, I think he's
Speaker 5: a really good, you know, not fifty to fifty ball guy,
Speaker 5: but like contested ball guy, like we're fighting for the football.
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna take it away most of the time.
Speaker 5: I think he's a he's a decent blocker, like he
Speaker 5: has the willingness to block, but he may not be
Speaker 5: the best. I think he's a Michael Galla type dude,
Speaker 5: but he's not as muscly as Michael Gallap was. And
Speaker 5: I think he gets off the line of scrimmage really
Speaker 5: well for a tall guy. Some of these other tall
Speaker 5: guys they get they get faster down the field. I
Speaker 5: think he gets off the ball pretty pretty fast for
Speaker 5: his size. And I think he has a little bit
Speaker 5: of smoothness to his ro run.
Speaker 3: No, I think he got him. And he reminded me
Speaker 3: of Rashad Bateman when from when you when I watch
Speaker 3: him at Minnesota, went back to watch and I were
Speaker 3: doing our show one night together and I read I
Speaker 3: read Bateman's report. I know he went to Baltimore in
Speaker 3: the first round. Probably had him more in the third,
Speaker 3: fourth round for on my board, but he reminded me
Speaker 3: very much. The ball skills, the body control, the contested catches,
Speaker 3: the feel for the game. I mean, he gets away
Speaker 3: with pushing off better than anybody. I mean, like he can.
Speaker 3: He'll find the ball and then all of a sudden
Speaker 3: you'll see his hand come into the chest and then
Speaker 3: he'll go up. It's like he's kind of launching himself
Speaker 3: off the defender. But man, I'll tell you what though,
Speaker 3: with the ball in his hands, he's going to go
Speaker 3: north and south. I mean he's going to break tackles
Speaker 3: as a runner. The best thing, I mean when he
Speaker 3: goes and gets the ball in the air. That's I
Speaker 3: think the absolute best thing. The way he's able to
Speaker 3: fully extend so man back shoulder fades. I don't think
Speaker 3: he has the top end speed. I think that's the
Speaker 3: thing that but he works well with what he has.
Speaker 3: This kid's a good football player, I do. I have
Speaker 3: him in the fourth round. Six to two two eight
Speaker 3: is the what I had for the measurements.
Speaker 2: And if you've got him in the fourth. There's a
Speaker 2: chance he slides into that fifth conversation. Depending on what
Speaker 2: receiver's going. He could go earlier because whide receivers, you
Speaker 2: like you very nice.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think we're all kind of unanimous on our
Speaker 7: pat Bryant love. I think he had a really good
Speaker 7: senior Bowl. I remember a couple of reps where he
Speaker 7: was in the best on best and he there's one
Speaker 7: he destroyed Tommy Hill from Nebraska.
Speaker 3: I mean, he just.
Speaker 8: Poor Tommy Hill.
Speaker 3: It ended his weekend. Tommy Hill did not playing again.
Speaker 8: He did not play in the game after that.
Speaker 7: But no, I mean he was productive every year as
Speaker 7: he went along in college to ten touchdowns this past
Speaker 7: year for Illinois, and after the catch, I think is
Speaker 7: quietly where he's really good. I'm with Brian in the
Speaker 7: sense that he doesn't have the best top end speed,
Speaker 7: but he's still able to maneuver his way through lanes,
Speaker 7: get away from guys, and find the end zone. That's
Speaker 7: what you want from your ex receiver.
Speaker 2: We just haven't talked much about late round receivers yet,
Speaker 2: and I think he's one of those that could be
Speaker 2: in that conversation, no doubt about it.
Speaker 3: Was the name.
Speaker 2: It was Ricky White, the third out of UNLV. We
Speaker 2: haven't watched him yet February. Well, he was at the
Speaker 2: Shrine Bowl. I was as impressed with Ricky White.
Speaker 3: Did you watch him? What did you think?
Speaker 8: Shrine Bowl?
Speaker 7: And then I watched a couple of the UNLV games
Speaker 7: this year when they played Boise State twice.
Speaker 3: And I know you're watching Boise Defense. I just watched
Speaker 3: that end. I just didn't see it.
Speaker 8: I just didn't see it. Yeah, I'm just not as
Speaker 8: high on him as.
Speaker 3: Some other Okay, I had him.
Speaker 2: I mean I haven't really watched other than the Senior
Speaker 2: or Shrine Bowl, but I had him kind of further
Speaker 2: down than Pat Bryant. I had Bryant elevated from his
Speaker 2: Senior Bowl stuff.
Speaker 7: You're talking about signing, yeah, yea, yeah, yeah. His film's
Speaker 7: pretty He was a finalist. The Jason who won?
Speaker 6: Who was?
Speaker 8: I think it was JJ Weaver from Kentucky.
Speaker 3: Okay, I think okay? Interesting? All right, thanks for the questions.
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Speaker 1: Is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft show back.
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Speaker 2: We've got Brian brod Is, watch them, Barty, Tommy Yarsh
Speaker 2: with Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeomans. All right,
Speaker 2: I want you guys to give me your defensive first, second,
Speaker 2: third round mock draft, and which one you like better.
Speaker 2: Before you give the defensive guys, remind us what your
Speaker 2: top three in the first round from offense was.
Speaker 5: Offensively, I had Matthew Golden Texas, Tyler Booker BEMA, and
Speaker 5: R J. Harvey UCF. And on defense, I don't want
Speaker 5: to be uh, you know, I don't want to be
Speaker 5: that guy that's just over over overdrafted somebody based on
Speaker 5: where the mock draft has them or whatever. I think
Speaker 5: highly of Johnny Beher So if I can only take defense,
Speaker 5: Mike Mike Green was going, and at all of our
Speaker 5: other you know, top tier you know, top tier guys
Speaker 5: are you know, kind of going. So I'm like, all right,
Speaker 5: I would rather have than any of these other characters here.
Speaker 5: So I'm taking juh they Barron at twelve.
Speaker 3: I love him.
Speaker 4: The pieces.
Speaker 5: I'm sure you got them, probably, yeah, yeah, I think
Speaker 5: if if, if Mike Green is going, there's not a
Speaker 5: whole bunch of guys on defense that you can look
Speaker 5: at and just love like that. I'm not a Will
Speaker 5: Johnson guy at all. He's he's like my sixth, my fifth,
Speaker 5: sixth corner or something like that. So I'm not gonna
Speaker 5: just and he was there for me, But I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna fake the fund it and I'm not gonna fake
Speaker 5: the funk. But around two Brian brought us we need
Speaker 5: linebackers there, so I got Jihad Campbell from ah.
Speaker 3: He lasted till forty four. Hey man, he was gone
Speaker 3: on mine. I was hoping he would slip to forty
Speaker 3: four for me.
Speaker 5: Hey, you know, he does all the things that you
Speaker 5: want linebackers to do, even some of the things that
Speaker 5: Jalen Walker doesn't do. He covers really well for me,
Speaker 5: sideline the sideline, great athlete, great size, great link pass
Speaker 5: rush is sometimes really well cool. And I think when
Speaker 5: we get to the third round, I had a bunch
Speaker 5: of tackles, I like, Yeah, a ton of tackles I like.
Speaker 5: But I got Darius Alexander from Toledo. He's a guy
Speaker 5: that was kind of down to boards at first, but
Speaker 5: you know, the more time goes back, he goes up
Speaker 5: the boards and he's up there on mine. So I
Speaker 5: got a third round great on him, and I got
Speaker 5: him in the third round really good on on rundowns,
Speaker 5: and he has.
Speaker 4: Some upside to be a pass rusher for you. So
Speaker 4: that's where I got him.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you went baron Campbell Alexander. Yes, Okay, that's
Speaker 2: a fun draft, Tommy.
Speaker 4: I like my off much better day.
Speaker 3: Okay. I don't think your defensive drafts bad at all.
Speaker 3: I don't know at all.
Speaker 7: I don't think he fixed a lot of problems about
Speaker 7: Alexander's another battle where if you get him in the third, we're.
Speaker 8: Doing back flips down the hall party. I don't be realistic.
Speaker 8: I don't for for Alexander.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I think you know. I think it's
Speaker 3: I think his draft is realistic. I think that's I
Speaker 3: think it's well thought out.
Speaker 7: I don't think Alexander will be there in the third,
Speaker 7: but if he's there, yeah take him.
Speaker 8: So my offense to refresh was gent in the first.
Speaker 7: John Donovan Jackson from Ohio stay in the second, Trey
Speaker 7: Harris all missing the third defense, I've also got John
Speaker 7: Ay Barron as my first round pick, shocker my second.
Speaker 7: And I'll just say I ran several mock drafts. I'm
Speaker 7: just most common who I got, and it was Walter Nolan.
Speaker 7: I don't think he won't be there in the second,
Speaker 7: but that's who I got in the second. So I'm
Speaker 7: going with Walter Nolan in the second. And then I'm
Speaker 7: filling in a linebacker as well in the third. But
Speaker 7: Jeffrey Boassa from Oregon, so that's mine.
Speaker 3: Three. I went to gent in the first, and then
Speaker 3: I went Jackson the guard from Ohio State in the second,
Speaker 3: and then Royals, the wide receiver from Utah State, and
Speaker 3: the third. I'm gonna I'm gonna say that Green will
Speaker 3: be there. I'm gonna say I took Green in the first.
Speaker 3: I took Williams, the defensive tackle from Ohio State in
Speaker 3: the second, and I took Noel Williams, the cornerback from
Speaker 3: Cal in the third. And let me let me just
Speaker 3: talk to you about Noel Williams from Cal six one pounds.
Speaker 3: I love the way this kid competes. He really plays
Speaker 3: well at the line of scrimmage. His jam has some
Speaker 3: force to it. He does a really good job staying
Speaker 3: connected to the receivers. He plays with physicality, He's not
Speaker 3: afraid to mix it up. He doesn't shy away from contact.
Speaker 3: He's got outstanding ball skills. From the balls in the air,
Speaker 3: it's his and he puts himself in position to make plays.
Speaker 3: This guy is a bully at six one, two hundred pounds.
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what though he is. He is
Speaker 3: one of those guys. It was either him or Harriston
Speaker 3: from Kentucky, and I think Harriston could probably be a
Speaker 3: little bit better of a nickel. Maybe if you lose
Speaker 3: Jordan Lewis, you could play him on the outside, or
Speaker 3: if you have to, you can play him inside, because
Speaker 3: I think Williams showed at the Senior Bowl he could
Speaker 3: do a little bit of that. Or excuse me, Harriston
Speaker 3: showed he could do a little bit of that. But
Speaker 3: Noel Williams, if you haven't watched him play from Cali,
Speaker 3: where's number three? He is a bad m effort at
Speaker 3: cornerback in the third round.
Speaker 2: That's what we're looking for, is bad m efforts in
Speaker 2: the first round for the offensive side. I did Ashton
Speaker 2: gent followed by Tyler Booker, in the second round, and
Speaker 2: then the wide receiver out of TCU save On Williams
Speaker 2: in the third round.
Speaker 3: On the defensive side, I went Abdul Carter. Now I'm
Speaker 3: just kidding.
Speaker 2: I wish talk about the second Yeah, it was a
Speaker 2: great draft, top notch across the board.
Speaker 10: No.
Speaker 2: I actually went jad A Baron in the first round too,
Speaker 2: and I was hoping Green would fall.
Speaker 3: He did not. I was hoping he would get there.
Speaker 3: He did not get there.
Speaker 2: I went with Jade Baron, and I'm gonna fix the
Speaker 2: cornerback spot. The versatility outside, I think is going to
Speaker 2: bring a little bit of a stop to the revolving
Speaker 2: door that.
Speaker 3: You saw last year at the cornerback positions.
Speaker 2: Whether that's Digg's future in question, Bland's contracting question in
Speaker 2: the future, Kaitlyn Carson's injury was as a rookie, I
Speaker 2: want to solidify that cornerback spot and then we can
Speaker 2: go rush the passer, which is what I did in
Speaker 2: the second round.
Speaker 3: And I ran kind of like you.
Speaker 2: I ran multiple times and both times, actually all three
Speaker 2: times that I ran it, I got Princely Mommy Yellen
Speaker 2: as my highest rated edge rusher in the second round
Speaker 2: at forty four, and so I went with an old
Speaker 2: miss defensive lineman as well, but I went with through
Speaker 2: Mommy Yellen instead. Pair him with Michael Parsons. Get him
Speaker 2: a big early edge rusher that can get in the
Speaker 2: backfield as well, opposite of Micah. You can move him
Speaker 2: around too if you really wanted to, and then you're
Speaker 2: gonna play a little defense on the second level too.
Speaker 3: I'm going with.
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Bossa Oregon in the third round. He fell to
Speaker 2: me at seventy six. I couldn't help but think back
Speaker 2: to his coverage ability. His ability is a blitzer too.
Speaker 2: I think he can do a little bit of everything.
Speaker 2: He was fantastic at the Senior Bowl, voted top linebacker
Speaker 2: at the Senior Bowl as well. If you can get
Speaker 2: him in the third round, which I think is right,
Speaker 2: I have him in the third out of my list
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 3: So I thought it was a pretty accurate pick across
Speaker 3: the board.
Speaker 2: I'd be happy with Basa there in the third because,
Speaker 2: like I said, I would have loved to have a
Speaker 2: Jihad Campbell out of Alabama in the second, but he
Speaker 2: wasn't there for me. I think he got picked at
Speaker 2: like thirty eight or thirty nine along the way. So
Speaker 2: I went baron, o'mammy Ellen and Bossa as my three,
Speaker 2: And I think I like Bassa, But I think you.
Speaker 3: Went around early on him. You think, so he's a four. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm on my board, and you know, hey, I'm just
Speaker 3: like I say, it's just for the point of discussion, sure,
Speaker 3: but I don't think there's a whole lot of linebackers.
Speaker 3: So if you feel like, did you have to get
Speaker 3: that thing squared up? You know, Bossa is a not
Speaker 3: a bad option there. He's six two, he's two thirty five.
Speaker 3: Kid was a converted safety, you know, and at times
Speaker 3: I thought he played like that. You know, he looks
Speaker 3: good lengthwise and there's room for growth and stuff of
Speaker 3: the hair, but there's snaps where I feel like he
Speaker 3: played more as a safety than he did as a linebacker.
Speaker 3: I thought he struggled with big bodies that got on him.
Speaker 3: That was one of the things that I looked at.
Speaker 3: I thought he was a little bit of a tick
Speaker 3: slow when it came to the key in diagnosed, and
Speaker 3: that might be from the lack of experience of him
Speaker 3: having to switch the position. But you know, he's he's
Speaker 3: one of these guys. Last line is it's going to
Speaker 3: be a work in progress until he figures out when
Speaker 3: he needs to do it linebacker, because he's far from
Speaker 3: a complete player at this point.
Speaker 2: That's why I had him in the fourth just to
Speaker 2: kind of go on your Knox. This is one of
Speaker 2: my pros and cons that I've got. I said, not
Speaker 2: an overly physical linebacker. You're not going to lay down
Speaker 2: the hammer with Jeffrey Bossa, which is why you probably
Speaker 2: stuck out at senior bow because it's not physicalitctic you're covering,
Speaker 2: you're playing the position, you're making reads, which I think
Speaker 2: he was good at all of those. I think he's
Speaker 2: super athletic. He's got a long arms that, like you
Speaker 2: talked about, the fundamentally sound skill set footwork wise is
Speaker 2: what I put in parentheses, and.
Speaker 3: I didn't think he got out of position a whole lot.
Speaker 2: So, like you said, I think from the work in
Speaker 2: progress standpoint, I think it's from a physical brand.
Speaker 3: Of I don't know if you watched the Penn State game,
Speaker 3: but they ran right by him.
Speaker 2: I watched Wisconsin, Washington and Ohio State. I'll att.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the lost part of it in the coverage aspect
Speaker 3: and you're thinking the guy's at safety and he's kind
Speaker 3: of getting lost a little bit in coverage between Penn
Speaker 3: State ran route right by him and he he didn't
Speaker 3: even react, and I'm like going, oh, good watch, Okay,
Speaker 3: but that's yeah, that's kind of good to know. But
Speaker 3: he's no, he's a good looking player and there's some
Speaker 3: positive things about him though. I think you're just kind
Speaker 3: of taking a little bit of a project on right
Speaker 3: now until he learns the position. But the growth clearly
Speaker 3: could be there.
Speaker 2: My linebackers that went ahead of him was Jalen Walker Georgia,
Speaker 2: Jehid Campbell Alabama. Yes, I said Walker is Georgia linebacker,
Speaker 2: Carson Schweestinger Ucla, Barrett Carter, Clemson.
Speaker 3: Those are the guys. Swssenger man is such a good
Speaker 3: looking I mean a good player, but man, he is
Speaker 3: so light. Yeah, he's two and thirty swans. Have you
Speaker 3: seen And that's kind of the problem I'm having with
Speaker 3: a lot of these lines.
Speaker 2: Oh no, because you look at Chris Paul Junior also,
Speaker 2: I say two and twenty eight pounds whatever, it ends
Speaker 2: up being soaking wet.
Speaker 13: Uh.
Speaker 2: You've got a bigger guy like Demetrius Knight but he
Speaker 2: doesn't move as well out of South Carolina.
Speaker 3: I don't think he moves as well as some of
Speaker 3: those guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do I have a drop off between those first
Speaker 2: five guys, Walker, Campbell, Swetzinger, Carter Bossa for me on
Speaker 2: my board, Yeah, and then it's a gap tonight, which
Speaker 2: is part of probably why I reached a little bit
Speaker 2: on on Bossa, even though I saw it as a
Speaker 2: good pick at seventy six, if somebody else has them
Speaker 2: in the fourth, I don't think I would knock that either.
Speaker 5: Okay, I got a let's see, I got Sweesssinger and
Speaker 5: Knight in the third, like both those guys, and I
Speaker 5: got Paul in the fourth. I didn't think Paul was
Speaker 5: a great cover guy, but then I saw him at
Speaker 5: the Trium Bowl. He was covering his ass off there,
Speaker 5: so I got to figure that out. But I got
Speaker 5: Boston in the fifth.
Speaker 2: There he was probably the best linebacker at the Shrine Bowl,
Speaker 2: which is probably why he stuck out on him.
Speaker 3: You know, if you look at the metrics I did
Speaker 3: on Paul, because with the coverage scene, you're talking about
Speaker 3: eighty two percent completion against him. Oh so there were
Speaker 3: some things where he you know he's going to have
Speaker 3: to kind of kind of pick that up. I mean
Speaker 3: that that was if you look at the metrics again
Speaker 3: on that, that's five hundred and thirteenth in the country.
Speaker 3: When it comes to covering a cover linebacker, Sak Tommy's
Speaker 3: coverage was a little bit better. I think he was
Speaker 3: like five twelve. Well, he's a powerful guy, man, he'll
Speaker 3: play down hill. You know, there's some violence again to
Speaker 3: his game. But the coverage thing I think is a
Speaker 3: mixed bag. Right now.
Speaker 2: This is totally off topic, but I mean when I'm
Speaker 2: looking at this list, I'm looking at Kobe King out
Speaker 2: of Penn State too.
Speaker 3: What do you think about King? I have not seen Kings.
Speaker 3: Me and Voch were talking about this last night on
Speaker 3: our show that we have tobackers.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll give you guys somebody to watch who I
Speaker 7: think maybe later in the later rounds could be a
Speaker 7: steal for a team. Nick Martin from Oklahoma State, Okay,
Speaker 7: I was banged up this last year, but he was
Speaker 7: a tackling machine the year before that, and he was
Speaker 7: also a small linebacker. He's a smaller guy, but he's
Speaker 7: a thumper and he gets guys to the ground.
Speaker 8: He has a good knack for the game.
Speaker 7: I thought he had a pretty good Senior Bowl and
Speaker 7: not really a guy that was talked about too much,
Speaker 7: but I thought he played well. And then when he's healthy,
Speaker 7: I feel like he's one of the better linebackers out there.
Speaker 7: Nick Martin, Oklahoma State, Yeah, fun one. I know they've
Speaker 7: got Colin Oliver to who's another guy that's on boards, But.
Speaker 8: I think Martin is better.
Speaker 2: All right, So out of that, I know, Vatch you
Speaker 2: said you like your offensive draft better, even though it
Speaker 2: ads gent first, I still think I'm fixing more problems
Speaker 2: with my defensive draft. So I'll say I like my
Speaker 2: defensive draft better. Brian, do you like your offensive draft
Speaker 2: or defensive draft better?
Speaker 3: Along the way, I think I like my offensive draft better.
Speaker 3: But I am I am a I am a fan
Speaker 3: of I'm a fan of Williams. And I mentioned Noel Williams.
Speaker 3: You know, I mean he is he Williams and no
Speaker 3: Wis Yeah, both of them. We're going Williams and Williams
Speaker 3: and Williams. Yeah, I'm going to Williams, Williams and Williams.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's uh, but just I think having Genty,
Speaker 3: having Jackson potentially at guard. The flexibility you have with him,
Speaker 3: I think Royals is I think Royals is going to
Speaker 3: be a really good pro. I think he's gonna be
Speaker 3: a good pro at Utah State.
Speaker 8: I like my defensive draft better. I think that if
Speaker 8: you get a guy like John A.
Speaker 7: Baron who can be so versatile in the first round,
Speaker 7: and then you got a one of the more athletic
Speaker 7: guys in the draft, and Nolan in the second, and
Speaker 7: then a guy in Bassa who still has room to grow.
Speaker 7: But you know, another guy who started as a safety
Speaker 7: and moved a linebacker was de Marveon Overshell. And I'm
Speaker 7: not I'm not comparing the two whatsoever in terms of
Speaker 7: in terms of what they can do. I think he's
Speaker 7: got some good tools that you can work with, you know.
Speaker 3: I like that. I like it a lot.
Speaker 2: And of course Tommy probably took out for Collins, traded
Speaker 2: back up into the fourth to go get mister Taxis
Speaker 2: my first.
Speaker 8: Pick and in the second.
Speaker 3: But I wish I had my I wish i'd love
Speaker 3: for my school like you. Yeah, that's part of it. Hey,
Speaker 3: you've got love for his son?
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, there there are there are Texas guys
Speaker 7: in this draft that I that I'm not as high on.
Speaker 3: I mean, like Cameron you talked about you talked about
Speaker 3: on the wide Receiver bond, but I gave you credit
Speaker 3: for Cameron Williams.
Speaker 8: I don't like Cameron Williams at all. I think you
Speaker 8: should have stayed another year.
Speaker 3: Go that's good. That is a big one, all right.
Speaker 5: On course, yes, there's a lot of people on social
Speaker 5: media that want to just follow along with our boards
Speaker 5: and things like that.
Speaker 4: People said all the time, So my board is on
Speaker 4: my Twitter.
Speaker 5: I can't see that right there, But just flash on
Speaker 5: Bard if your h L O NB already and you
Speaker 5: can look at my board and I want to fuss
Speaker 5: on Twitter, we could fuzzbut it or if you want
Speaker 5: to agree, we can agree.
Speaker 4: We love conversation like that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and build your boards the same way that
Speaker 2: that we would ours. Don't let us give you the board,
Speaker 2: don't work, copy the board, do your own board and
Speaker 2: make it work along the way. Because we're gonna have
Speaker 2: some ebs and flows, We're gonna have some more conversations.
Speaker 2: I think Brian and Vach, you guys are gonna watch
Speaker 2: Kobe King. I think you like Kobe King, So it
Speaker 2: stayed a little bit. Watch him and we'll talk about
Speaker 2: it next week. Next week we'll have the Combine to
Speaker 2: talk about as well. Tommy yarsh will be out there
Speaker 2: in Indianapolis. I know Nick Harris is making a trip
Speaker 2: out there as well. We'll have plenty to talk about
Speaker 2: along the way updates from there, and we're gonna have
Speaker 2: a special guest appearance next as well. Arnacles from one
Speaker 2: Aisha Morrison joining the show. I'm back, super excited to
Speaker 2: get Ayisha back in the fold. She's been super busy
Speaker 2: on her side of things and getting her board ready
Speaker 2: along the way, so I can't wait to get Ayisha
Speaker 2: back here on the Draft Show. But for today, that'll
Speaker 2: do it for us. For Chris Beam in the back,
Speaker 2: Tommy Yars, Brian Broad It's watch Lombardi. I'm Kyle Yeomans.
Speaker 2: We're sixty three days away. We'll see you next week
Speaker 2: with more of the Draft Show.
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