Speaker 1: I used to cut hair in college, Like I love
Speaker 1: that for you. Yeah, I would cut my boy's hair.
Speaker 1: I only cut like three people, but you know it
Speaker 1: was like, ah, they'll let me funk around and they
Speaker 1: won't get mad at me, and I won't like fuck
Speaker 1: them up too much whatever. And I used to make
Speaker 1: them pay me in iced teas. I'd be like, nah,
Speaker 1: hit me with like a bunch of Arizonas.
Speaker 2: And we chilling.
Speaker 3: How many teas was it fade hit for? I think
Speaker 3: it was like two or three.
Speaker 1: I think it was like, hit me your life two
Speaker 1: or three, two or three ice teas.
Speaker 2: So that's that's a boggain right there. I said, just
Speaker 2: the bear just one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's also because I knew I wouldn't doing ship.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't help me. You wouldn't get no pussy because
Speaker 1: of my cut. You get pussy because your personality.
Speaker 2: So you could help help build characters. Yeah, listen, work
Speaker 2: on your jokes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't hurting you. I just I'm holding you
Speaker 1: over to you meet a nicer man who can do
Speaker 1: this better, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like the.
Speaker 3: Chimps in your.
Speaker 1: Kalas are racist. The money stuff I can't tell me Damn, damn,
Speaker 1: damn James therek is there. It is Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: gentiles and little mamas alike. Welcome to another phenomenal episode
Speaker 1: of My Mama Told Me.
Speaker 3: The podcast when we dive deep into the pockets of
Speaker 3: black conspiracy theories.
Speaker 1: And we finally worked to prove that Alicia Keys did
Speaker 1: not lose her voice. Her voice was given away, traded,
Speaker 1: just like the Little Mermaid, so that she could be
Speaker 1: with Swiss Beats. He is her prince Eric. She was
Speaker 1: willing to sacrificed everything to be with that silly man
Speaker 1: who won't be honest about him being a bald person.
Speaker 3: Listen, I'm not gonna hold you decent deal.
Speaker 1: Whoa you think it's a good trade off?
Speaker 3: Swiss Beats is so so rich, they have a good life.
Speaker 3: They're in that house rollerskating all the time.
Speaker 1: You would give up your voice for to be with Swizzy.
Speaker 3: I worry that if I had a voice like Alisia Keys,
Speaker 3: I'd a Bobby Brown it out. I'd have gone down.
Speaker 3: I'd have been jumping out of helicopters doing karate kicks
Speaker 3: with y'all rule like. I don't think it would have
Speaker 3: been a great.
Speaker 1: You think you think it was only meant to be mismanaged.
Speaker 1: There was never going to be a sweet ending to the.
Speaker 3: I think the Lord gave me the level of talent
Speaker 3: that I could work with and not an inch more.
Speaker 3: Damn and I heavy Alicia Keys is more talented than
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 1: Sure Alicia Keys more talented than most of us. I
Speaker 1: would say, I don't think there's many on the planet
Speaker 1: that that could compare the to prime Alicia Keys when
Speaker 1: it first came out. Yeah, when them braids were thick,
Speaker 1: come on, and that booty was too, But we didn't
Speaker 1: know it yet.
Speaker 3: Because she was one of them zoot suits. We didn't
Speaker 3: know her name. We didn't know her name.
Speaker 2: She was always sitting down on the piano bench, sitting down.
Speaker 3: And it was a sturdy bench. She was bolted off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had they get that bench double lined.
Speaker 3: And she was toughted buttons in the big old booty.
Speaker 1: Alicia Keys, We miss your girl.
Speaker 3: Come on back, Yeah, come home. I don't care if
Speaker 3: the song, I don't care if the boye is it hitting,
Speaker 3: I'll go see it live. Yeah.
Speaker 2: That was the only thing about Alicia Keys. You've never
Speaker 2: seen her dance?
Speaker 3: Is that just that's man, I was okay, No, I
Speaker 3: was just talking to my girl about that, not even
Speaker 3: the are you allowed to not be able to dance
Speaker 3: as a male R and B sing.
Speaker 1: Like, well, let's talk about not dance like you're saying,
Speaker 1: you're saying choose not to dance or literally you look
Speaker 1: bad when you're dancing.
Speaker 3: You look bad when you're dancing.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't think you can be that.
Speaker 3: Women. I can kind of get away with it, but
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mary Mary J can't dance for shit, and no
Speaker 1: we celebrate her.
Speaker 3: I love that video with the Lazers. I love that ship.
Speaker 1: I think the closest we've ever come to that is Drake.
Speaker 1: I think he's a bad dancer. He is a bad
Speaker 1: dance and he is an R and B ish type person.
Speaker 1: But it took generations of like and it also took
Speaker 1: him being affiliated with fucking Little Wayne, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like there's a saving grace inside of that.
Speaker 1: But now the average R and B nigga can't not dance.
Speaker 2: No reflection of the times, Like you need to have
Speaker 2: something that you that could be like mimiced on TikTok
Speaker 2: because like Luther Vandros was not dancing.
Speaker 3: No, okay, that is not. Probably he was big, but
Speaker 3: he was not Heavy D. He was not he was.
Speaker 3: We don't give him that. We don't give up that credit.
Speaker 3: As far as like light on light on his feet,
Speaker 3: like adult, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I think Heavy D should be mentioned amongst the greats
Speaker 1: in a way that we don't.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's go.
Speaker 1: I really, I really think he's like he should be
Speaker 1: like a top ten conversation, and we pretend like he's
Speaker 1: not that guy.
Speaker 3: My man came out in the lime green leather sweatsuit.
Speaker 3: Ye whoa.
Speaker 2: If you look through a catalog of heavy D outfits,
Speaker 2: it's up there with like dapper Dan like it is
Speaker 2: custom is colorful as fire. As he was dancing, not
Speaker 2: with other big people. He was dancing with the.
Speaker 3: Boys, skinny dancers.
Speaker 2: And he was with them young boys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there wasn't no, there wasn't that Lizzo trickery happening here.
Speaker 1: This was this was skinny little men that he could
Speaker 1: keep just every step with.
Speaker 3: Bro. If I was Heavy D, I'd had the big
Speaker 3: boys out, would have been flopping all over it.
Speaker 1: I'd have made them take their shirts off too, just
Speaker 1: to show how big they are, y'all. Look how much
Speaker 1: bigger they are than me, Them big old titties flopping.
Speaker 1: You're gonna tell me, I'm I'm just heavy.
Speaker 3: I'm just.
Speaker 2: I am heavy, delightful.
Speaker 3: I am not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not with them. Heavy was different, heavyweight, love
Speaker 2: with it. He had it the de stends for down
Speaker 2: forty pounds on these big.
Speaker 1: These things for damn y'all big as am? I mean,
Speaker 1: our guest today, And frankly, we've heard so much of
Speaker 1: him before we've introduced ourselves or even him. I'm Likeston Kerman,
Speaker 1: and our guest today is a dear friend, a phenomenal comedian,
Speaker 1: a talent of all kinds. I would say no person
Speaker 1: I know is more committed to being an active member
Speaker 1: of their community than this man. I think it's fair
Speaker 1: to say he is. He is constantly in the community
Speaker 1: doing shit that I truly did not know he would find.
Speaker 3: A way to do.
Speaker 1: The other day he posted a video of him at
Speaker 1: a at some sort of Mexican event wearing a cowboy hat,
Speaker 1: dancing exclusively with older Mexican people and was very much
Speaker 1: a part of what is happening there. And I'll never
Speaker 1: understand how he pulls this off. But it is my
Speaker 1: favorite thing about him. He's a great comedian and a
Speaker 1: dear friend. Give it up for KOFE.
Speaker 3: Thomas.
Speaker 1: Everybody, Thank you, Thank.
Speaker 2: You everybody listening who said that, Wow wow wow, Yes,
Speaker 2: yes I am I am here. I made him back
Speaker 2: returning to this amazing, amazing part y'all two of my
Speaker 2: favorite people. You bullshit, y'all are dope. Just got the
Speaker 2: opportunity to me David and we already hit it off.
Speaker 3: Have night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was an elements comlicated evening, a lot of
Speaker 2: a lot of strange sexy talk going on. And you
Speaker 2: know what you know, I like is when you like
Speaker 2: we bonded quickly about what is sexy and you know,
Speaker 2: we would not remember because it was first of all,
Speaker 2: I know a lot of Mexicans, but also that night.
Speaker 2: So let me take off that it was after this
Speaker 2: this phenomenal live show. I don't know if you go,
Speaker 2: phenomenal live show right with Langston and Dave days on tour.
Speaker 2: So after the show, we all go out to some
Speaker 2: restaurant and you know it's.
Speaker 1: It's down the street from the venue we're hanging out.
Speaker 2: We hang and it gets onto the topic there's a
Speaker 2: lot of comedians, and that gets onto the topic of
Speaker 2: like who is or who is not sexy? What is
Speaker 2: sexy for a man? And we have our beliefs as
Speaker 2: men about what makes a man sexy and the difference
Speaker 2: between sexy and fine. And Sydney Washington is going.
Speaker 1: As Sydney Washington, you ain't seen a dick in a decade,
Speaker 1: asked Sydney Washington.
Speaker 3: Right, that's the approach in.
Speaker 1: There, going off trying to tell us what man and
Speaker 1: it's sexy.
Speaker 2: Sexy, and she keep and she named a couple of
Speaker 2: people and she keep talking about Lanxton and Zach being sexy. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: Me and David are sitting here like I'm okay, okay,
Speaker 2: hold on, who's going.
Speaker 3: To swim first? I'm about to swing. I'm saying, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I'm trying to be peaceful, and I look at
Speaker 2: my man David. It's just sitting there, solid and just
Speaker 2: starts dropping just fucking bombs and facts about who is sexy,
Speaker 2: the criteria for sexy, the swag for sexy, how you
Speaker 2: carry yourself. And I was like, man, we over here,
Speaker 2: just dark and holding it down, and so sittill that
Speaker 2: moment I building.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I used it. I used it as a
Speaker 3: term we were building. Yeah, we will.
Speaker 2: So it's been, it's been. It's been love to us
Speaker 2: since that moment. And you know, and my man, my
Speaker 2: man Lanx and I know Fever. So that's the that's
Speaker 2: the homie right there, and we're back in the building
Speaker 2: and it's it's.
Speaker 1: So happy you're here. You came with a conspiracy theory
Speaker 1: that I would say is essential for us to cover
Speaker 1: on this podcast. This has not been covered before. It
Speaker 1: is essential that we cover this because frankly, it's it's
Speaker 1: insane that it hasn't come up to at this point.
Speaker 1: But you said, my mama told me Arizona Ice teens
Speaker 1: were created to hold back the black community.
Speaker 5: Facts, okay, all right, facts tell me you know, when
Speaker 5: y'all get them, get that flex, drop a bomb on them,
Speaker 5: all the sound effects.
Speaker 2: At home, put them all the way up.
Speaker 3: Boom boom. Here.
Speaker 2: I'll take y'all, I'll take y'all back a step further
Speaker 2: to walk with it, because this right now, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: lie to y'all this might be the last podcast. All right,
Speaker 2: all right. I started off just saying, ain't run.
Speaker 1: Big Big, Arizona Big big canned beverage, Big Zona is
Speaker 1: about to come and be all up in our ship,
Speaker 1: either litigiously or or maybe even more sinister than that.
Speaker 2: Right, keep see, I want you all to remember this
Speaker 2: moment when we were all hit last and having a
Speaker 2: good time. Might not might not be a lot more alright.
Speaker 2: So here that it started, right, I got my own
Speaker 2: like triggers for conspiracies of when I see something in
Speaker 2: our neighborhood that I don't see in a white neighborhood,
Speaker 2: that's when my flags start going up. While we got it,
Speaker 2: we don't get nothing special. So his where it hit
Speaker 2: me right, and it took me back. This this transported
Speaker 2: me right. So for me, when I was in high school,
Speaker 2: I went to mostly white high school and Massachusetts. Okay,
Speaker 2: before that, I was in like all black, all black schools.
Speaker 2: So when I went to high school, I had my
Speaker 2: lunch box which was just like a brown bag, and
Speaker 2: I had a twenty percent juice in it.
Speaker 3: Right, boxes are reach Yeah, but it wasn't a box.
Speaker 2: It was it was a.
Speaker 3: Brown battle one receptacle.
Speaker 2: Listen it was it was yeah, it was my to
Speaker 2: go se right started the point the point there, But
Speaker 2: so to give you a different. So now I'm around
Speaker 2: Now I'm around rich white kids. Okay in name, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the first time I seen people at lunch that
Speaker 2: didn't bring juice like they had water. They had water
Speaker 2: bottles like the ones they fill up and then walk
Speaker 2: around with it. And I hadn't seen anybody just drink
Speaker 2: water like that before. So now I'm seeing in their stores.
Speaker 2: Because they had a store called Little Peach that was
Speaker 2: our Cors store. There was no Arizonas in there at all.
Speaker 2: So now I'm like, oh shit, okay, why do why
Speaker 2: don't they have Arizonas overhead?
Speaker 3: We got overhead. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: These delicious, it's a great bargain, and it's all it's
Speaker 2: all the ship that black folk talk about. Oh it's
Speaker 2: a great price. It's delicious. It makes us happy.
Speaker 3: You get what you can get for ninety nine cents, because.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't. You can't get water twenty three ounces
Speaker 1: of water. You're not getting that for ninety nine cents.
Speaker 3: Anyway, It's yeah, come on now, yeah, that's so that's heavy.
Speaker 1: So so you clock this in high style, you start
Speaker 1: to notice the differences. Does that immediately translate to you
Speaker 1: being like, so they are poisoning us. How do you
Speaker 1: make that leap of them saying that this is bad
Speaker 1: for black people?
Speaker 3: God?
Speaker 2: So at that time, I don't me being a young
Speaker 2: black mind, all right, I was like, oh, these white
Speaker 2: folks are missing out.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. We're like, I.
Speaker 1: Think you think you are so pro black, You're likely
Speaker 1: we have resources in our community that white people are
Speaker 1: feel for. They can't the positivity.
Speaker 3: You see.
Speaker 2: They don't appreciate flavor. That's why they ain't got it.
Speaker 2: I started putting it on that they do, know what
Speaker 2: I mean, they even plain sandwiches. I'm over here with
Speaker 2: a watermelon juice. So when I got older, I tart
Speaker 2: to know more about how we get slowly poisoned through
Speaker 2: a lack of access to healthy food. Shout out to
Speaker 2: my black farmers. When I learned about that, then I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, let me look at this Arizona can
Speaker 2: because again, like I'm in New York, so it is
Speaker 2: a point of pride out here, like yeah, we got
Speaker 2: the camp and it's even the point of conversation like, yo,
Speaker 2: what flavor you be like like that?
Speaker 3: Like what kind of you? I'm bad?
Speaker 1: That used to that used to be like a nice
Speaker 1: icebreaker when I was a kid, to be like your
Speaker 1: favorite Arizona. And now all of a sudden, we don't
Speaker 1: feel as far from each other as we felt before.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, it's like yeah, it's like who you
Speaker 2: like it? That's a child, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Kelly? Right, yeah, we all love Kelly a little more
Speaker 1: than be Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Come on now, hey, don't go back to LaToya. So anyway,
Speaker 2: I don't get. But the good old days, she was
Speaker 2: fine as hell. So that's when I was like, what's
Speaker 2: going on here?
Speaker 3: That's when I was like, what's going on here? So
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 2: I'm talking brothers.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 2: The reason I say like, I really love what y'all doing,
Speaker 2: but I am worried about this podcast is because when
Speaker 2: I started doing digging a little bit deeper. This feels
Speaker 2: like at Watergate, like deep your deep throat? Bro huh
Speaker 2: shut up.
Speaker 6: Like no, because I get what you're saying. But I'm
Speaker 6: not gonna say yeah to that either.
Speaker 1: You're just gonna openly give me to be like yeah
Speaker 1: I'm deep, throw yeah me, yeah, call me.
Speaker 3: Deep throw uh huh you informant? No, I got it.
Speaker 3: I was wildent for saying it.
Speaker 1: That's one way to say yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: It felt crazy as I was saying that.
Speaker 2: I appreciate, okay, appreciate all y'all. That was that was
Speaker 2: a lot. I'm something that you was some factual cook a.
Speaker 3: Research. All right, So I love this.
Speaker 2: This is New Teams seventy one, John Feralto and Donald Voltaggio.
Speaker 2: Remember that name, Don Voltaggio six eight six eight, Italian
Speaker 2: man from Flatbush, Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: Whoa like that over there? They don't. That's all the
Speaker 3: guys on a foreign body.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he come on now what like a like an
Speaker 2: important Ben's so now he looked like the like the monstars.
Speaker 1: And he ain't got to touch the ball.
Speaker 3: He's just big, right.
Speaker 2: So John Farolito and Sean Bradley, Uh.
Speaker 3: You got no.
Speaker 2: So they got this company right because Don he's doing
Speaker 2: like distribution. John Ferrito is doing like bear. So first
Speaker 2: they were like, all right, they started this like they
Speaker 2: started selling liquor mot liquor, which we know is liquid
Speaker 2: anti ambition to black people. Right, they start selling that
Speaker 2: making tons of money. Get this right. When they were
Speaker 2: selling Monte liquor, they used to put out these posters
Speaker 2: all over the hood. One of the posters was had
Speaker 2: this like a Native American man on it from the
Speaker 2: su tribe. This thing, this can was so offensive that
Speaker 2: the Native Americans sued and one in Congress to get
Speaker 2: that removed.
Speaker 1: That's the history in the eighties.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: That's the history of this company, right.
Speaker 1: So to get our hands on that can, that's probably
Speaker 1: the best taste in malt liquor that that money can buy.
Speaker 3: I just want to see it. I don't want to.
Speaker 3: I don't want to. I don't want to get hooked.
Speaker 3: One sip and you're done.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's like original for a logo quality, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's gonna get you fucked up.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, it's like it's that old recipe. It's like spices.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Wait.
Speaker 1: So KOFE, I love that you come on this research.
Speaker 1: Come this is phenomenal research. We need to take a break,
Speaker 1: but when we come back, I want you to break
Speaker 1: down even more of your research because all of this
Speaker 1: is frankly, some of it is more in depth than
Speaker 1: even I was able to get. So I'm excited to
Speaker 1: hear what you have. We're gonna take a break, we'll
Speaker 1: be back with more. KOFEE Thomas and more. My mama
Speaker 1: told me.
Speaker 3: We are back discussing the implications that Big Zona has
Speaker 3: on the community at large. Let's continue on fillos.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kofe, you were in the middle of breaking down
Speaker 1: some pretty heavy research, including us discovering that that boy
Speaker 1: you said it's called Crazy Horse is the name of
Speaker 1: the the now banned malt liquor that this company started.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm co wrecked. So we already are establishing this
Speaker 2: is a history of this company, the mar in a
Speaker 2: way just to be like, yo, this is what these
Speaker 2: people are gonna are gonna like. It's gotta the marketing
Speaker 2: team as a real like as a real these people
Speaker 2: focused group behind it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's so funny having this being explained by Nigga with
Speaker 1: cricket glasses. I can't emphasized enough how hard it is
Speaker 1: to know whether you are in fact spitting a real
Speaker 1: truth or this is a complete bamboosolem it. But I'm
Speaker 1: excited either way.
Speaker 2: This Oh yeah, I wish, I wish, I wish it wasn't.
Speaker 2: But this is twenty three ounces of facts coming out,
Speaker 2: big facts. Who right, And then let's father this trajectory
Speaker 2: of just of how kind of like I won't say again,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say mafia mm hm, but this is
Speaker 2: how gangsters move. Okay, So coming coming into the nineties,
Speaker 2: all right, we got Snapple also out of New York.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, They making moves. Snapple got
Speaker 2: what ice tea?
Speaker 3: That's okay.
Speaker 2: Now I'm not saying that these two Donvo tagos gangster.
Speaker 2: But if you was a gangster and you've seen somebody
Speaker 2: else making some money over here, you might say, oh,
Speaker 2: I can do that same product, switch up the packaging.
Speaker 2: And so in the nineties, Arizona comes out with what
Speaker 2: they're known for.
Speaker 3: Ice tea.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, that's that's that's and they and they says it.
Speaker 2: So then there's lawsuits, of course, because there's lawsuits because
Speaker 2: they done took Snapples out there. But then get this
Speaker 2: against against more gangster within the company. There's a ten
Speaker 2: year battle between Don Botaggio and John Ferrialito over get
Speaker 2: control of the family, which is the same way it
Speaker 2: is in the Sopranos. I'm not saying it's my field,
Speaker 2: but his name is done. He's fighting for control. He's
Speaker 2: six s eighths and he owns distribution. Also the idea
Speaker 2: that they took Snapple. Come on, stretch the game out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: x the name out, now put soon on top, Come on, gangster,
Speaker 2: come on, come on now, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's worth noting that all of all of Kofe's research
Speaker 1: I did read uh similar information. It's worth noting that
Speaker 1: part of the reason that they say they differentiate how
Speaker 1: they differentiated from Snapple was number one, the can, but
Speaker 1: number two they added quote unquote like fifty percent more
Speaker 1: tea into the products.
Speaker 3: They stretched the game out.
Speaker 1: They stretched it, they literally stretched it out. They like
Speaker 1: cut the They basically cut the juice with more tea
Speaker 1: and then made it less expensive, I believe, to push
Speaker 1: out the staff target.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, come on, it was worth the classes in
Speaker 3: a wardrobe.
Speaker 1: It doesn't happen often on this show, but I'm glad
Speaker 1: it's happened in the day.
Speaker 2: We added a little bit. Come on, that's not us, baby,
Speaker 2: that's not us.
Speaker 1: So so you you read all of this that obviously
Speaker 1: they're making this product based off of Snapple. They are
Speaker 1: having this infighting. What are your thoughts, I guess on
Speaker 1: the infighting. Are are you under the belief that maybe
Speaker 1: John had a moral sort of conundrum that made him
Speaker 1: want to want to split with this dude? Or is
Speaker 1: this just a money grab off of a product already
Speaker 1: moving this.
Speaker 2: Nigga talking about moral conundrums.
Speaker 3: This is gangsters. Okay, this is gangsters.
Speaker 2: The empire is growing and only one of us is
Speaker 2: six eighty. So who you think is in charge?
Speaker 1: I got you. This isn't about John and some like
Speaker 1: grasping for like responsibility out in the world. This is
Speaker 1: Don basically being like, hey, I noticed you ain't as
Speaker 1: tall as me, and I want all the money, so
Speaker 1: you leave.
Speaker 2: Come on now, cause you know John probably had the ideas,
Speaker 2: let's drop a green tea, let's drop an energy Yeah,
Speaker 2: don't sit in back loud. He get in kind of
Speaker 2: calm for that. He think he thinks he's six to one.
Speaker 2: Now now I'm gonna push him out the company. And
Speaker 2: but I know y'all did y'all research, right, I know,
Speaker 2: but it is am my thing, right you a company
Speaker 2: that is profiting I want to say, primarily off of
Speaker 2: the black community.
Speaker 1: To that point, I am Bori. I'll be curious to
Speaker 1: hear your thoughts. I personally do not know any white
Speaker 1: people who grew up drinking arizonas that's not a thing
Speaker 1: for the white folks that I've ever come in contact with.
Speaker 2: It.
Speaker 3: It was just I don't know about I can't speak
Speaker 3: to that, but I can't say that. It was just
Speaker 3: so much more accessible than Snapple ever was was in glass.
Speaker 3: What am I a fucking senator? My mom's my mom,
Speaker 3: my single mom is gonna buy me that bottle drink?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was too It had too many like fancy conversion.
Speaker 1: That's it's the third pair that got me. I was
Speaker 1: making it through with the originals, but this is the
Speaker 1: third one that really broke me.
Speaker 3: Yo.
Speaker 4: Sit ready for For the listeners who are aren't participating
Speaker 4: via the visual which you should watch YouTube, just know
Speaker 4: there's been three pairs of glasses.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Kobe continually is changing glasses throughout throughout the podcast, and
Speaker 1: it keeps getting funnier every time.
Speaker 2: Going through a lot of emotions overhead. And you know,
Speaker 2: just from what y'all saying too, it's like you think
Speaker 2: about to David's point about what we have access to,
Speaker 2: like none of that shit is is a coincidence. You
Speaker 2: feel like they decide what products go with. There's a
Speaker 2: reason that there's a lot more echo unlimited in my
Speaker 2: neighborhood than in the suburbs. Like we like we get
Speaker 2: what they decide that we get too shot from, and
Speaker 2: they know what is going to be attract Now, the
Speaker 2: other part I'll speak to is that they also create
Speaker 2: like a pipeline, like a consumer pipeline. So in the
Speaker 2: same way where like if you will start let's say,
Speaker 2: like vaping early, then later on you might start smoking cigarettes. Yeah, right,
Speaker 2: because I got you on the candy flavors. So now
Speaker 2: if I'm a youngin and I keep grabbing this this
Speaker 2: twenty three ounce, you know what I'm saying, can juice?
Speaker 2: As I get older, I'm a reach for that same
Speaker 2: size can.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean. Damn, damn, I do
Speaker 3: love talking. I'm just come on.
Speaker 1: They're creating a relationship with that physical body in a
Speaker 1: way that's that I grow up. No, I don't drink
Speaker 1: juice anymore, but sure I enjoy a liquor or a
Speaker 1: beer in this exact same body.
Speaker 3: Yeah, on a hot day, it's like it's it's like
Speaker 3: you yet, man, damn.
Speaker 2: Right, and then the bodega, it's literally like it's side
Speaker 2: by side. It's the same. It's that same one long fridge.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, yeah, and they push them Arizona's as close
Speaker 1: to the the alcohol is a hote real is Oh
Speaker 1: they go right next to each other. Damn, this is
Speaker 1: heavy shit.
Speaker 3: Now. You know who keep making money off of that?
Speaker 1: Big boy six ' eight six eight, Don Yugyo. So
Speaker 1: let's talk about that a little bit. Because Don Valtaggio
Speaker 1: and John far Alito, as you already suggested, get into
Speaker 1: this legal battle starting I think in two thousand and
Speaker 1: seven is when they start fighting over the who has
Speaker 1: rights to the company. John wants to be able to
Speaker 1: like sell it internationally, like he wants to sell his
Speaker 1: shares to basically make it like an international market thing,
Speaker 1: and Don instead just wants to buy him out. It
Speaker 1: takes all the way until twenty fifteen for them to
Speaker 1: ultimately resolve this, and it's in part because Don was
Speaker 1: trying to undersell the price of the company. He basically suggests, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're only worth like four hundred and thirty million or
Speaker 1: something like that. John's like, Nona, no, that shit's worth
Speaker 1: six billion dollars and he's lying. And so they go
Speaker 1: through like this major infighting of how much the company
Speaker 1: is worth, and ultimately in twenty fifteen they settle for
Speaker 1: a billion dollars. Why he basically gets a billion dollars
Speaker 1: bill out of his share half of the of the
Speaker 1: company command.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. Everybody's talking about jay Z making a billion
Speaker 3: off of liquor a bill off of juices, off of
Speaker 3: Juice Baby Regional juices.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ninety, here's the ultime.
Speaker 3: What is in there?
Speaker 1: Well, that's I'm so glad you asked that question, because
Speaker 1: even as you're saying juice, that is not really an
Speaker 1: accurate representation of what it is. It's in fact five
Speaker 1: percent to ten percent juice, depending on which product you're choosing.
Speaker 1: They never really exceed ten percent juice. And then the
Speaker 1: rest of it, I guess, is like air conditioning, cooler
Speaker 1: or some shit. It's just it's just other stuff sort
Speaker 1: of mixed in. And in fact, I look this up
Speaker 1: on their website, all of the drinks, the sugar percentage
Speaker 1: for all of their drinks range somewhere between fifty eight
Speaker 1: percent to one hundred and eight percent of your daily
Speaker 1: recommended dosage of sugar for a single can one can
Speaker 1: and you can eat drink one hundred and eight percent
Speaker 1: of the sugar you're supposed to have for a.
Speaker 3: Day, and that's what if you drink it all the
Speaker 3: way to school.
Speaker 1: That's just one can.
Speaker 3: You got a whole rest of your day.
Speaker 1: And they're ninety nine cents. So yay, I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: another can?
Speaker 3: Is the one? Okay? Can I ask? This is the
Speaker 3: one that's one O eight. That's the soda ones they
Speaker 3: have right now.
Speaker 1: I either have the.
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 1: I wish it was, And no, I haven't had their sodas.
Speaker 1: I've healed. I've tried to be better about my relationship
Speaker 1: with these things.
Speaker 3: Oh really, I had, man when I had first This
Speaker 3: is my Arizona struggle. When I first moved to La
Speaker 3: I was down bad. I didn't live nowhere. I was
Speaker 3: just I would go do comedy for like four hours
Speaker 3: a night, and then I would go to seven to eleven.
Speaker 3: I get one of the five fifty pizza five fifty
Speaker 3: five pizzas and one of those Cherry Lime arizonas.
Speaker 1: Fuck the soda, Yeah them Lime rickeys, you're talking about that?
Speaker 3: Yeah Lime Ricky's. And now I'm do I know if
Speaker 3: I can have kids.
Speaker 1: Hey, there's only one way to find out, my guy.
Speaker 3: For real, many good practicing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred and eight is not. In fact, the
Speaker 1: Sodas one hundred and eight was from like the strawberry
Speaker 1: Kiwi flavor I think that I saw, and it's just
Speaker 1: it's just pure fucking sugar all the way to the bottom.
Speaker 2: It's a mix of sugar mouthwash, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And were out here talking about, oh what kind of
Speaker 2: what kind of liquid diabetes?
Speaker 3: You like?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, because we again we keep
Speaker 2: like we keep pushing up, keep like idolizing like this
Speaker 2: really shitty things that we get. I'm not going to
Speaker 2: say it goes back to Chipling's that's another podcast. But
Speaker 2: but the leftovers that we then, you know, kind of
Speaker 2: put our like our kind of sauce our like swag
Speaker 2: onto and make it like dope to have one.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: Let me let me give you. Let me give you
Speaker 2: a couple of important numbers there have been for all
Speaker 2: of the basketball.
Speaker 3: The reason is this is such a problem is because
Speaker 3: it is delicious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, They're unbelievably yummy, and it's part of the reason
Speaker 1: I don't get them anymore is because I truly do
Speaker 1: think I would restore a deep, deep addiction to them,
Speaker 1: not because I think I'm better than it, if that
Speaker 1: makes sense.
Speaker 3: No, I understand you have to stay away because you
Speaker 3: love it.
Speaker 1: No, it just does seem like the deep roots of
Speaker 1: this relationship that we're all speaking to sort of create
Speaker 1: this damaging effect on the black community, especially right like
Speaker 1: we we created this relationship. And that's an interesting fact
Speaker 1: inside of all of this, because specifically, once Don takes
Speaker 1: over the company, people start pushing back about the pricing, right,
Speaker 1: or rather like people they're not pushing back, but they're
Speaker 1: sort of acknowledging that, like it's weird that he is
Speaker 1: able to still keep the price point at ninety nine
Speaker 1: cents given the inflation that's happened in every other product
Speaker 1: across every other industry in the world. Frankly, so that's
Speaker 1: sort of what he points to is not so much
Speaker 1: the deal, but he says that part of the way
Speaker 1: that we're able to keep the price so low is
Speaker 1: we don't do any marketing. So and when every other
Speaker 1: company is having to shell out money to be able
Speaker 1: to get fucking Beyonce or Drake to drink sprite or
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck to keep you addicted wanting more of this,
Speaker 1: he just says word of mouth is enough effectively to
Speaker 1: keep people wanting more Arizonas, and that to me feels
Speaker 1: like crack.
Speaker 3: Fucked up because it is that's all.
Speaker 1: I've never read an Arizona ad. I don't see no
Speaker 1: Arizona commercials, but everybody I've ever loved has poison themselves
Speaker 1: with Arizonas and that seems crazy.
Speaker 2: God, bro, we only here talking about crack. Yeah, come on, bro,
Speaker 2: that ship just said mere here talking about crack in
Speaker 2: the community.
Speaker 3: This, you know, I know what else I don't like.
Speaker 3: Crack has had bigger endorsement dollars than Arizona.
Speaker 1: Yeah, jay Z talking about famous people talk about crack.
Speaker 3: Fuck Yes, Wow, damn.
Speaker 2: When the dots started to connect to my head because
Speaker 2: we crack? You like, well, who's responsible?
Speaker 3: Right? The C I A right? What C I A?
Speaker 2: Three letters? Who is responsible for drinks that come into
Speaker 2: the hood?
Speaker 3: The F D A?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Come on?
Speaker 3: Food and food? And what's the D stand for? Not
Speaker 3: heavy D drug? Food and drug?
Speaker 2: Food and drug not not food.
Speaker 3: This goes all the way to the top. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: I never thought about that. Why are they doing foods
Speaker 1: and drugs?
Speaker 3: They aren't similar products.
Speaker 1: No one of those should not be connected to the
Speaker 1: other one, and there should be a food And.
Speaker 2: Just when you thought he was, don't it don't make
Speaker 2: no sense?
Speaker 3: I was like, for sure, he doesn't have any more passibly,
Speaker 3: where would he? Where would he? Where would he keep.
Speaker 1: This wall of sunglasses and readers?
Speaker 3: Man, this is a hard I feel like this is
Speaker 3: It's not often that we have a conspiracy that just
Speaker 3: shows up, good to go on stept like that, but
Speaker 3: this is I mean, I don't know what's to argue.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The other worthy note inside of this that I
Speaker 1: think we shouldn't ignore is that John Feralalito, who is
Speaker 1: the guy who basically makes a billion dollars selling his
Speaker 1: half of the company. John goes on to end up
Speaker 1: in a different lawsuit when he supposedly, during a mulligan
Speaker 1: on a golf course, hit another person in the head
Speaker 1: with a golf ball, leaving them unconscious. Right, And he
Speaker 1: gets into this lawsuit and they if you hit somebody
Speaker 1: with the golf ball, well that his claim is that
Speaker 1: it was a mulligan and then it accidentally hits this
Speaker 1: other person, right, or like he maybe he was going
Speaker 1: after a mulligan and was trying to fix it. And
Speaker 1: then hit a person whatever. But part of what they
Speaker 1: claim is like, yeah, accidents like this can occur on
Speaker 1: golf courses. You sign waivers that make it sort of
Speaker 1: like possible whatever that this could happen, and you acknowledge that.
Speaker 1: But their point in the lawsuit is that he hit
Speaker 1: the person at point blank range, that it was not
Speaker 1: in fact nearly as much of a mulligan as they're
Speaker 1: trying to pretend it was, but in fact just a
Speaker 1: straight shot at a person said that knocked them unconscious.
Speaker 1: And Kofi, this does not not feel like the mob
Speaker 1: that you're speaking about.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, we look, I don't play golf.
Speaker 2: It ain't no way, ain't no way you're going to
Speaker 2: hit somebody from close range or a golf ball so
Speaker 2: hard it knocks them unconscious and it's an accident. What,
Speaker 2: let me ask you, was this man laying down in
Speaker 2: front of the teeth. There's so much that's not being
Speaker 2: not being shared about this story that they're trying to
Speaker 2: cover up. He's got the money for it, and quite frankly,
Speaker 2: I'm worried for that witness, Like people go listen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, also because a mulligan you take after you hit
Speaker 3: the shot right like, and then you're like, oh, it's
Speaker 3: a Mulligan, so that means he killed that man. And
Speaker 3: then he was like awesome Mulligan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, he fucked the dude up real bad.
Speaker 1: He made him hold the golf ball in his mouth
Speaker 1: while he's swaying through, and then he's like, Mulligan, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do that again, and I'm taking my shot back.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's the whoa, whoa, whoa, what's wrong with this guy
Speaker 2: over here tripping on the golf course? Hey, So it's
Speaker 2: it's like, Oh, other thing I'm glad that you brought
Speaker 2: up is that there is there's such a big Dawn
Speaker 2: like Don Corleoni energy around both of these dudes because
Speaker 2: right now, because there was an interview with with Dawn
Speaker 2: of Otaggio from Monsters in Forbes and this dude, oh
Speaker 2: back to is there a couple important numbers to give
Speaker 2: you all some some perspective. For all the money that
Speaker 2: they've made off of the community, there has not been one,
Speaker 2: not one like roller ring dance, not one. Not one
Speaker 2: basketball tournament, yeah, not one. We can't get a three
Speaker 2: three Arizona, we can't. We can't get jerseys, yeah, you
Speaker 2: know with green tea on the back. We can't get those.
Speaker 2: We can't, So there's been zero.
Speaker 1: The Phoenix Suns having the Arizona label on them feels
Speaker 1: like an easy wonder one like that just seems like clear,
Speaker 1: good business and and nothing.
Speaker 3: They don't even kind of do that ship because that's
Speaker 3: the that's the problem, right. They don't want to be
Speaker 3: have to be accountable. That's why they didn't want to
Speaker 3: go international. There's gotta be Don, it's on.
Speaker 1: Paper, and that's some mob shit, right because then it
Speaker 1: becomes like, nah, I'm not. And part of that's that's
Speaker 1: what they say in terms of keeping the price point
Speaker 1: and ninety nine cents, is that Don's argument is that
Speaker 1: he would like to keep the company at the roots
Speaker 1: that sort of made it popular in the first place.
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't want to grow this thing because
Speaker 1: then we will lose customers. And people have acknowledged that,
Speaker 1: like your company is losing money in this non inflation world, right,
Speaker 1: like there you inflate because that's how you keep up
Speaker 1: with the fucking market. But he's like, nah, keep it
Speaker 1: at ninety nine cents, because then we'll lose any of
Speaker 1: our customers who already buy it.
Speaker 2: Right to keep it. In that sense, and a lot
Speaker 2: of that you talk about how do they do it,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of the there's a lot of that
Speaker 2: same secrecy of the mafia, of like don't pay, don't
Speaker 2: worry about it, don't about it?
Speaker 3: We wait, whoa what? All the questions.
Speaker 2: Forbes magazine came to his office, which is massive. He
Speaker 2: has like his own woodworkers inside that. They came into
Speaker 2: his office and they were like, hey, what is your
Speaker 2: marketing budget?
Speaker 3: Like how big is it? You know what? His answer was,
Speaker 3: real ship, forget about it. His answer is be goes,
Speaker 3: how big is my budget? It's sixth sakes, come on that.
Speaker 3: Damn that. I didn't want to figure it was cool,
Speaker 3: but that that was good. Damn cool ship man, he's
Speaker 3: he's straight gangster.
Speaker 1: The final piece that I'll share with you guys, and
Speaker 1: as far as the research, is that the name Arizona.
Speaker 3: Actually, everybody, you have to watch this on YouTube because
Speaker 3: my man, you thought the work was in the research.
Speaker 1: Five glasses deep and I don't think this train is
Speaker 1: stopping any time. But the last piece that I'll share
Speaker 1: with you is that they named the company Arizona, but
Speaker 1: it was originally meant to be named Santa Fe, after
Speaker 1: his I guess, desert style home that he had in
Speaker 1: New York. He had like some random desert style home
Speaker 1: living in New York, and he wanted to name it
Speaker 1: Santa Fe, but opted to not name it Santa Fe
Speaker 1: because it didn't look good on the can and decided
Speaker 1: on Arizona, even though he had never been to Arizona.
Speaker 1: In fact, had never even crossed the Mississippi like cross
Speaker 1: west of the Mississippi.
Speaker 3: I did just say, he's never been in New Jersey.
Speaker 1: No, he's never fucking left New York the entire time.
Speaker 3: And also, by the way, Arizona, what they got you
Speaker 3: trouble for? At first? It's vaguely Native American. I've always
Speaker 3: felt that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there clearly is an obsession with sort
Speaker 1: of marginalized people in their product building, right, And so
Speaker 1: he's like, all right, I got in trouble last time
Speaker 1: for naming this shit after a bunch of Native Americans.
Speaker 1: I'll do something a little more subtle in being like
Speaker 1: nodding to that culture and that look, that esthetic without
Speaker 1: getting the associations that I had last time, thus making
Speaker 1: it a minority product. Thus attracting minorities, thus making assault
Speaker 1: sick and die.
Speaker 3: Damn damn sweet keew strawberry favored death.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what a what a fucking yummy death it is?
Speaker 1: You know, I think on my deathbed, I want somebody
Speaker 1: to just run across the street to a gas station
Speaker 1: and bring back an Arizona.
Speaker 3: If I know it's a rap, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2: If it's over come on like, put it in, put
Speaker 2: it in, put it in the IV drip like, let
Speaker 2: it come into my veins slowly, yo.
Speaker 3: Bear me with the Muco mango in the casket. Come
Speaker 3: on now, died like you lived mucho.
Speaker 1: It sounds like, if I were to go so far
Speaker 1: as to say it sounds like we're all in agreement
Speaker 1: on this one, it doesn't. It doesn't feel like anybody
Speaker 1: even remotely is arguing that they are not intentionally trying
Speaker 1: to profit off of the black community and possibly destroy
Speaker 1: the black community in the process.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, I think we're Yeah, yeah, I think
Speaker 2: I think we just we discovered the crack conspiracy of
Speaker 2: this this era.
Speaker 3: And I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know who's gonna come for us. But when
Speaker 2: y'all come, if y'all could bring I personally, I like
Speaker 2: the water up the flavor. But but you're gonna come
Speaker 2: for me, bring me that twenty three ounces of sweet.
Speaker 1: If you want to assassinate Kofe, he would love for
Speaker 1: you to do it watermelon flavor style and not no
Speaker 1: gun shot to the head. Just just lay some poison
Speaker 1: in his watermelon iced tea and let him go out piecea.
Speaker 2: Now I want you to put I want you to
Speaker 2: put the green tea, the big can into a T
Speaker 2: shirt gun and fire that. Let that be my seat shut.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just blow his brains out with sweet tea. This
Speaker 1: is this has been heavy. I'll say that we've we've
Speaker 1: certainly we've taken on a heavy toll today in this unpacking.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Sometimes it's not always fun and games over here,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes we get a little serious and we hope
Speaker 1: that you take this seriously at home and recognize the
Speaker 1: damage being done to your community. For show, Kobe, do
Speaker 1: you want to tell the people where they can find
Speaker 1: you and what cool shit you have going on?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me get a let me get serious. So yo,
Speaker 2: y'all can find me on Instagram. I'm at Kofe Comic.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: If you garden, I'm at bek Green Gardener. I throw
Speaker 2: a dope show every Sunday in manhatt And called Secret
Speaker 2: Socks Comedy. I'm on YouTube. Look at my name. You
Speaker 2: know all them things?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Also you know you know if you are the striker
Speaker 2: is over now. I got tons of ideas. Uh Jamia
Speaker 2: White holl at me, Uh yeah, any of the girls
Speaker 2: that was on girlfriends holler at me for.
Speaker 3: Real, even a hippie one, oh bro when the show
Speaker 3: was on.
Speaker 2: That's the thing I didn't I didn't want to get
Speaker 2: into right now because this is like a three all conversation.
Speaker 2: But I loved when it used to be groups of
Speaker 2: women and then so you would bones over which one
Speaker 2: you liked. It was like that with Braxton's, Like that
Speaker 2: would tlcing, like that would Living Single? Who y'all think
Speaker 2: was the funnest I for living single? Real quick?
Speaker 3: Oh man, I saw that you would pitch this as
Speaker 3: a topic, see that bra and so difficult.
Speaker 1: I think a younger me thought it was regime. That's
Speaker 1: the easy choice, for easy choice, and I think the
Speaker 1: older me thinks it was Max. I think Max was
Speaker 1: the baddest of the four of them, and we we
Speaker 1: didn't give her.
Speaker 3: Her if I'm going to stand on business, if I'm
Speaker 3: going to stand on the principles that I have set
Speaker 3: for and try to live up to within my life.
Speaker 3: I am a Maxine guy.
Speaker 1: You're a Maxine guy.
Speaker 3: She was like, Okay, she was bad. She was a lawyer,
Speaker 3: she was she was fucking eating everything in sight. Hilarious.
Speaker 2: Fine, I've seen Saint Claire mmmm, like when she wasn't
Speaker 2: being like silly on KIM four. That could be a
Speaker 2: three hour conversation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a whole other one.
Speaker 1: No, And I think there's a fair argument for everybody.
Speaker 2: Trying to shut us down. See, that's the mafia. That's
Speaker 2: the mafia.
Speaker 1: I truly do think there's there's You could make an
Speaker 1: argument for any one of these women, and I would not.
Speaker 1: This doesn't feel like this would turn into a rageful argument.
Speaker 1: It truly does feel like a real discourse that we
Speaker 1: could reach.
Speaker 2: You know, it's definitely from a place of love and
Speaker 2: also how you know, kind of like the linguistics of
Speaker 2: how we define what is fine, what is bad, what
Speaker 2: is sexy?
Speaker 3: Yeah that's another day.
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