1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: I used to cut hair in college, Like I love 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: that for you. Yeah, I would cut my boy's hair. 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: I only cut like three people, but you know it 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: was like, ah, they'll let me funk around and they 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: won't get mad at me, and I won't like fuck 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: them up too much whatever. And I used to make 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: them pay me in iced teas. I'd be like, nah, 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: hit me with like a bunch of Arizonas. 9 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: And we chilling. 10 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 3: How many teas was it fade hit for? I think 11 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 3: it was like two or three. 12 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: I think it was like, hit me your life two 13 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: or three, two or three ice teas. 14 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 2: So that's that's a boggain right there. I said, just 15 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: the bear just one. 16 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's also because I knew I wouldn't doing ship. 17 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't help me. You wouldn't get no pussy because 18 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: of my cut. You get pussy because your personality. 19 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: So you could help help build characters. Yeah, listen, work 20 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: on your jokes. 21 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't hurting you. I just I'm holding you 22 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: over to you meet a nicer man who can do 23 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: this better, you know what I mean? 24 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 4: Like the. 25 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 3: Chimps in your. 26 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: Kalas are racist. The money stuff I can't tell me Damn, damn, 27 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: damn James therek is there. It is Ladies and gentlemen, 28 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: gentiles and little mamas alike. Welcome to another phenomenal episode 29 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: of My Mama Told Me. 30 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 3: The podcast when we dive deep into the pockets of 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: black conspiracy theories. 32 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: And we finally worked to prove that Alicia Keys did 33 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: not lose her voice. Her voice was given away, traded, 34 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: just like the Little Mermaid, so that she could be 35 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: with Swiss Beats. He is her prince Eric. She was 36 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: willing to sacrificed everything to be with that silly man 37 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: who won't be honest about him being a bald person. 38 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: Listen, I'm not gonna hold you decent deal. 39 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: Whoa you think it's a good trade off? 40 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 3: Swiss Beats is so so rich, they have a good life. 41 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 3: They're in that house rollerskating all the time. 42 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: You would give up your voice for to be with Swizzy. 43 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 3: I worry that if I had a voice like Alisia Keys, 44 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: I'd a Bobby Brown it out. I'd have gone down. 45 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 3: I'd have been jumping out of helicopters doing karate kicks 46 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 3: with y'all rule like. I don't think it would have 47 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 3: been a great. 48 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: You think you think it was only meant to be mismanaged. 49 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: There was never going to be a sweet ending to the. 50 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: I think the Lord gave me the level of talent 51 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 3: that I could work with and not an inch more. 52 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: Damn and I heavy Alicia Keys is more talented than 53 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: I am. 54 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: Sure Alicia Keys more talented than most of us. I 55 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: would say, I don't think there's many on the planet 56 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: that that could compare the to prime Alicia Keys when 57 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: it first came out. Yeah, when them braids were thick, 58 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: come on, and that booty was too, But we didn't 59 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: know it yet. 60 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 3: Because she was one of them zoot suits. We didn't 61 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: know her name. We didn't know her name. 62 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: She was always sitting down on the piano bench, sitting down. 63 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 3: And it was a sturdy bench. She was bolted off. 64 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, they had they get that bench double lined. 65 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 3: And she was toughted buttons in the big old booty. 66 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: Alicia Keys, We miss your girl. 67 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: Come on back, Yeah, come home. I don't care if 68 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: the song, I don't care if the boye is it hitting, 69 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 3: I'll go see it live. Yeah. 70 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: That was the only thing about Alicia Keys. You've never 71 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: seen her dance? 72 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: Is that just that's man, I was okay, No, I 73 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: was just talking to my girl about that, not even 74 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: the are you allowed to not be able to dance 75 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: as a male R and B sing. 76 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: Like, well, let's talk about not dance like you're saying, 77 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: you're saying choose not to dance or literally you look 78 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: bad when you're dancing. 79 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 3: You look bad when you're dancing. 80 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't think you can be that. 81 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: Women. I can kind of get away with it, but 82 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: I don't think. 83 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mary Mary J can't dance for shit, and no 84 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: we celebrate her. 85 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: I love that video with the Lazers. I love that ship. 86 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: I think the closest we've ever come to that is Drake. 87 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: I think he's a bad dancer. He is a bad 88 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: dance and he is an R and B ish type person. 89 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: But it took generations of like and it also took 90 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: him being affiliated with fucking Little Wayne, you know what 91 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: I mean, Like there's a saving grace inside of that. 92 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: But now the average R and B nigga can't not dance. 93 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: No reflection of the times, Like you need to have 94 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: something that you that could be like mimiced on TikTok 95 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 2: because like Luther Vandros was not dancing. 96 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 3: No, okay, that is not. Probably he was big, but 97 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 3: he was not Heavy D. He was not he was. 98 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: We don't give him that. We don't give up that credit. 99 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,119 Speaker 3: As far as like light on light on his feet, 100 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 3: like adult, I'm not gonna lie. 101 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: I think Heavy D should be mentioned amongst the greats 102 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: in a way that we don't. 103 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 3: Okay, let's go. 104 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: I really, I really think he's like he should be 105 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: like a top ten conversation, and we pretend like he's 106 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: not that guy. 107 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: My man came out in the lime green leather sweatsuit. 108 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: Ye whoa. 109 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: If you look through a catalog of heavy D outfits, 110 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 2: it's up there with like dapper Dan like it is 111 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: custom is colorful as fire. As he was dancing, not 112 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: with other big people. He was dancing with the. 113 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: Boys, skinny dancers. 114 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 2: And he was with them young boys. 115 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, there wasn't no, there wasn't that Lizzo trickery happening here. 116 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: This was this was skinny little men that he could 117 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: keep just every step with. 118 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 3: Bro. If I was Heavy D, I'd had the big 119 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 3: boys out, would have been flopping all over it. 120 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: I'd have made them take their shirts off too, just 121 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: to show how big they are, y'all. Look how much 122 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: bigger they are than me, Them big old titties flopping. 123 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: You're gonna tell me, I'm I'm just heavy. 124 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: I'm just. 125 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 2: I am heavy, delightful. 126 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: I am not. 127 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not with them. Heavy was different, heavyweight, love 128 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: with it. He had it the de stends for down 129 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: forty pounds on these big. 130 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: These things for damn y'all big as am? I mean, 131 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: our guest today, And frankly, we've heard so much of 132 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: him before we've introduced ourselves or even him. I'm Likeston Kerman, 133 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: and our guest today is a dear friend, a phenomenal comedian, 134 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: a talent of all kinds. I would say no person 135 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: I know is more committed to being an active member 136 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: of their community than this man. I think it's fair 137 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: to say he is. He is constantly in the community 138 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: doing shit that I truly did not know he would find. 139 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: A way to do. 140 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: The other day he posted a video of him at 141 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: a at some sort of Mexican event wearing a cowboy hat, 142 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: dancing exclusively with older Mexican people and was very much 143 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: a part of what is happening there. And I'll never 144 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: understand how he pulls this off. But it is my 145 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: favorite thing about him. He's a great comedian and a 146 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: dear friend. Give it up for KOFE. 147 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 3: Thomas. 148 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: Everybody, Thank you, Thank. 149 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: You everybody listening who said that, Wow wow wow, Yes, 150 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: yes I am I am here. I made him back 151 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: returning to this amazing, amazing part y'all two of my 152 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: favorite people. You bullshit, y'all are dope. Just got the 153 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: opportunity to me David and we already hit it off. 154 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: Have night. 155 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was an elements comlicated evening, a lot of 156 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: a lot of strange sexy talk going on. And you 157 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 2: know what you know, I like is when you like 158 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: we bonded quickly about what is sexy and you know, 159 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: we would not remember because it was first of all, 160 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: I know a lot of Mexicans, but also that night. 161 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 2: So let me take off that it was after this 162 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 2: this phenomenal live show. I don't know if you go, 163 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: phenomenal live show right with Langston and Dave days on tour. 164 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 2: So after the show, we all go out to some 165 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: restaurant and you know it's. 166 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: It's down the street from the venue we're hanging out. 167 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: We hang and it gets onto the topic there's a 168 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: lot of comedians, and that gets onto the topic of 169 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: like who is or who is not sexy? What is 170 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: sexy for a man? And we have our beliefs as 171 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: men about what makes a man sexy and the difference 172 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 2: between sexy and fine. And Sydney Washington is going. 173 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: As Sydney Washington, you ain't seen a dick in a decade, 174 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: asked Sydney Washington. 175 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 3: Right, that's the approach in. 176 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: There, going off trying to tell us what man and 177 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: it's sexy. 178 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 2: Sexy, and she keep and she named a couple of 179 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: people and she keep talking about Lanxton and Zach being sexy. Meanwhile, 180 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: Me and David are sitting here like I'm okay, okay, 181 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: hold on, who's going. 182 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 3: To swim first? I'm about to swing. I'm saying, you. 183 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: Know, I'm trying to be peaceful, and I look at 184 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: my man David. It's just sitting there, solid and just 185 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: starts dropping just fucking bombs and facts about who is sexy, 186 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 2: the criteria for sexy, the swag for sexy, how you 187 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: carry yourself. And I was like, man, we over here, 188 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: just dark and holding it down, and so sittill that 189 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: moment I building. 190 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I used it. I used it as a 191 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: term we were building. Yeah, we will. 192 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: So it's been, it's been. It's been love to us 193 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: since that moment. And you know, and my man, my 194 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: man Lanx and I know Fever. So that's the that's 195 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: the homie right there, and we're back in the building 196 00:10:58,960 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: and it's it's. 197 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: So happy you're here. You came with a conspiracy theory 198 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: that I would say is essential for us to cover 199 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: on this podcast. This has not been covered before. It 200 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: is essential that we cover this because frankly, it's it's 201 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: insane that it hasn't come up to at this point. 202 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: But you said, my mama told me Arizona Ice teens 203 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: were created to hold back the black community. 204 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 5: Facts, okay, all right, facts tell me you know, when 205 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 5: y'all get them, get that flex, drop a bomb on them, 206 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 5: all the sound effects. 207 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: At home, put them all the way up. 208 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 3: Boom boom. Here. 209 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 2: I'll take y'all, I'll take y'all back a step further 210 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 2: to walk with it, because this right now, I'm gonna 211 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 2: lie to y'all this might be the last podcast. All right, 212 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 2: all right. I started off just saying, ain't run. 213 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: Big Big, Arizona Big big canned beverage, Big Zona is 214 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: about to come and be all up in our ship, 215 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: either litigiously or or maybe even more sinister than that. 216 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: Right, keep see, I want you all to remember this 217 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: moment when we were all hit last and having a 218 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 2: good time. Might not might not be a lot more alright. 219 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 2: So here that it started, right, I got my own 220 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: like triggers for conspiracies of when I see something in 221 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,119 Speaker 2: our neighborhood that I don't see in a white neighborhood, 222 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 2: that's when my flags start going up. While we got it, 223 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: we don't get nothing special. So his where it hit 224 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: me right, and it took me back. This this transported 225 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 2: me right. So for me, when I was in high school, 226 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: I went to mostly white high school and Massachusetts. Okay, 227 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: before that, I was in like all black, all black schools. 228 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: So when I went to high school, I had my 229 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: lunch box which was just like a brown bag, and 230 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 2: I had a twenty percent juice in it. 231 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 3: Right, boxes are reach Yeah, but it wasn't a box. 232 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: It was it was a. 233 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 3: Brown battle one receptacle. 234 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: Listen it was it was yeah, it was my to 235 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: go se right started the point the point there, But 236 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 2: so to give you a different. So now I'm around 237 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 2: Now I'm around rich white kids. Okay in name, Yeah, 238 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: that's the first time I seen people at lunch that 239 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: didn't bring juice like they had water. They had water 240 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: bottles like the ones they fill up and then walk 241 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 2: around with it. And I hadn't seen anybody just drink 242 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: water like that before. So now I'm seeing in their stores. 243 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: Because they had a store called Little Peach that was 244 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 2: our Cors store. There was no Arizonas in there at all. 245 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 2: So now I'm like, oh shit, okay, why do why 246 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: don't they have Arizonas overhead? 247 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 3: We got overhead. You know what I'm saying. 248 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 2: These delicious, it's a great bargain, and it's all it's 249 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 2: all the ship that black folk talk about. Oh it's 250 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: a great price. It's delicious. It makes us happy. 251 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: You get what you can get for ninety nine cents, because. 252 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't. You can't get water twenty three ounces 253 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: of water. You're not getting that for ninety nine cents. 254 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: Anyway, It's yeah, come on now, yeah, that's so that's heavy. 255 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: So so you clock this in high style, you start 256 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: to notice the differences. Does that immediately translate to you 257 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: being like, so they are poisoning us. How do you 258 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: make that leap of them saying that this is bad 259 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: for black people? 260 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 3: God? 261 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: So at that time, I don't me being a young 262 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 2: black mind, all right, I was like, oh, these white 263 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: folks are missing out. 264 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. We're like, I. 265 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: Think you think you are so pro black, You're likely 266 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: we have resources in our community that white people are 267 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: feel for. They can't the positivity. 268 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: You see. 269 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: They don't appreciate flavor. That's why they ain't got it. 270 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: I started putting it on that they do, know what 271 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: I mean, they even plain sandwiches. I'm over here with 272 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: a watermelon juice. So when I got older, I tart 273 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: to know more about how we get slowly poisoned through 274 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: a lack of access to healthy food. Shout out to 275 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: my black farmers. When I learned about that, then I 276 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: was like, oh, let me look at this Arizona can 277 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: because again, like I'm in New York, so it is 278 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: a point of pride out here, like yeah, we got 279 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: the camp and it's even the point of conversation like, yo, 280 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 2: what flavor you be like like that? 281 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: Like what kind of you? I'm bad? 282 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: That used to that used to be like a nice 283 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: icebreaker when I was a kid, to be like your 284 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: favorite Arizona. And now all of a sudden, we don't 285 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: feel as far from each other as we felt before. 286 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, it's like yeah, it's like who you 287 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: like it? That's a child, Yeah. 288 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: Kelly? Right, yeah, we all love Kelly a little more 289 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: than be Oh yeah. 290 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: Come on now, hey, don't go back to LaToya. So anyway, 291 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: I don't get. But the good old days, she was 292 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: fine as hell. So that's when I was like, what's 293 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: going on here? 294 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 3: That's when I was like, what's going on here? So 295 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 3: I did. 296 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: I'm talking brothers. 297 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 3: Like. 298 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: The reason I say like, I really love what y'all doing, 299 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: but I am worried about this podcast is because when 300 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: I started doing digging a little bit deeper. This feels 301 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: like at Watergate, like deep your deep throat? Bro huh 302 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: shut up. 303 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 6: Like no, because I get what you're saying. But I'm 304 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 6: not gonna say yeah to that either. 305 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: You're just gonna openly give me to be like yeah 306 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm deep, throw yeah me, yeah, call me. 307 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 3: Deep throw uh huh you informant? No, I got it. 308 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 3: I was wildent for saying it. 309 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: That's one way to say yeah, okay. 310 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 3: It felt crazy as I was saying that. 311 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 2: I appreciate, okay, appreciate all y'all. That was that was 312 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 2: a lot. I'm something that you was some factual cook a. 313 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 3: Research. All right, So I love this. 314 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 2: This is New Teams seventy one, John Feralto and Donald Voltaggio. 315 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 2: Remember that name, Don Voltaggio six eight six eight, Italian 316 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 2: man from Flatbush, Brooklyn. 317 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 3: Whoa like that over there? They don't. That's all the 318 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 3: guys on a foreign body. 319 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, he come on now what like a like an 320 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: important Ben's so now he looked like the like the monstars. 321 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: And he ain't got to touch the ball. 322 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 3: He's just big, right. 323 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: So John Farolito and Sean Bradley, Uh. 324 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 3: You got no. 325 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: So they got this company right because Don he's doing 326 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 2: like distribution. John Ferrito is doing like bear. So first 327 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 2: they were like, all right, they started this like they 328 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: started selling liquor mot liquor, which we know is liquid 329 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 2: anti ambition to black people. Right, they start selling that 330 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: making tons of money. Get this right. When they were 331 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: selling Monte liquor, they used to put out these posters 332 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 2: all over the hood. One of the posters was had 333 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 2: this like a Native American man on it from the 334 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 2: su tribe. This thing, this can was so offensive that 335 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 2: the Native Americans sued and one in Congress to get 336 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: that removed. 337 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 1: That's the history in the eighties. 338 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 3: That's crazy. 339 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: That's the history of this company, right. 340 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: So to get our hands on that can, that's probably 341 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 1: the best taste in malt liquor that that money can buy. 342 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 3: I just want to see it. I don't want to. 343 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 3: I don't want to. I don't want to get hooked. 344 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 3: One sip and you're done. 345 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's like original for a logo quality, you 346 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's gonna get you fucked up. 347 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, it's like it's that old recipe. It's like spices. 348 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. Wait. 349 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: So KOFE, I love that you come on this research. 350 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: Come this is phenomenal research. We need to take a break, 351 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: but when we come back, I want you to break 352 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: down even more of your research because all of this 353 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: is frankly, some of it is more in depth than 354 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: even I was able to get. So I'm excited to 355 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: hear what you have. We're gonna take a break, we'll 356 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: be back with more. KOFEE Thomas and more. My mama 357 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: told me. 358 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 3: We are back discussing the implications that Big Zona has 359 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 3: on the community at large. Let's continue on fillos. 360 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, Kofe, you were in the middle of breaking down 361 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: some pretty heavy research, including us discovering that that boy 362 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: you said it's called Crazy Horse is the name of 363 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: the the now banned malt liquor that this company started. 364 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm co wrecked. So we already are establishing this 365 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 2: is a history of this company, the mar in a 366 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: way just to be like, yo, this is what these 367 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 2: people are gonna are gonna like. It's gotta the marketing 368 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: team as a real like as a real these people 369 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: focused group behind it. 370 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. 371 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: It's so funny having this being explained by Nigga with 372 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: cricket glasses. I can't emphasized enough how hard it is 373 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: to know whether you are in fact spitting a real 374 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: truth or this is a complete bamboosolem it. But I'm 375 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: excited either way. 376 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 2: This Oh yeah, I wish, I wish, I wish it wasn't. 377 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: But this is twenty three ounces of facts coming out, 378 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 2: big facts. Who right, And then let's father this trajectory 379 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 2: of just of how kind of like I won't say again, 380 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say mafia mm hm, but this is 381 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 2: how gangsters move. Okay, So coming coming into the nineties, 382 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 2: all right, we got Snapple also out of New York. 383 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, They making moves. Snapple got 384 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 2: what ice tea? 385 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:31,959 Speaker 3: That's okay. 386 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: Now I'm not saying that these two Donvo tagos gangster. 387 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 2: But if you was a gangster and you've seen somebody 388 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: else making some money over here, you might say, oh, 389 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: I can do that same product, switch up the packaging. 390 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 2: And so in the nineties, Arizona comes out with what 391 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 2: they're known for. 392 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 3: Ice tea. 393 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 2: Yeah right, that's that's that's and they and they says it. 394 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: So then there's lawsuits, of course, because there's lawsuits because 395 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: they done took Snapples out there. But then get this 396 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 2: against against more gangster within the company. There's a ten 397 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: year battle between Don Botaggio and John Ferrialito over get 398 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: control of the family, which is the same way it 399 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 2: is in the Sopranos. I'm not saying it's my field, 400 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: but his name is done. He's fighting for control. He's 401 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: six s eighths and he owns distribution. Also the idea 402 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 2: that they took Snapple. Come on, stretch the game out. Yeah, 403 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 2: x the name out, now put soon on top, Come on, gangster, 404 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 2: come on, come on now, it's crazy. 405 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: It's worth noting that all of all of Kofe's research 406 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: I did read uh similar information. It's worth noting that 407 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: part of the reason that they say they differentiate how 408 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: they differentiated from Snapple was number one, the can, but 409 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: number two they added quote unquote like fifty percent more 410 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: tea into the products. 411 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 3: They stretched the game out. 412 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: They stretched it, they literally stretched it out. They like 413 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: cut the They basically cut the juice with more tea 414 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: and then made it less expensive, I believe, to push 415 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: out the staff target. 416 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, come on, it was worth the classes in 417 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 3: a wardrobe. 418 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: It doesn't happen often on this show, but I'm glad 419 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: it's happened in the day. 420 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 2: We added a little bit. Come on, that's not us, baby, 421 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 2: that's not us. 422 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: So so you you read all of this that obviously 423 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: they're making this product based off of Snapple. They are 424 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: having this infighting. What are your thoughts, I guess on 425 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: the infighting. Are are you under the belief that maybe 426 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: John had a moral sort of conundrum that made him 427 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: want to want to split with this dude? Or is 428 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: this just a money grab off of a product already 429 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: moving this. 430 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 2: Nigga talking about moral conundrums. 431 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 3: This is gangsters. Okay, this is gangsters. 432 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: The empire is growing and only one of us is 433 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: six eighty. So who you think is in charge? 434 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: I got you. This isn't about John and some like 435 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: grasping for like responsibility out in the world. This is 436 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: Don basically being like, hey, I noticed you ain't as 437 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: tall as me, and I want all the money, so 438 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: you leave. 439 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: Come on now, cause you know John probably had the ideas, 440 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: let's drop a green tea, let's drop an energy Yeah, 441 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: don't sit in back loud. He get in kind of 442 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: calm for that. He think he thinks he's six to one. 443 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 2: Now now I'm gonna push him out the company. And 444 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 2: but I know y'all did y'all research, right, I know, 445 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 2: but it is am my thing, right you a company 446 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 2: that is profiting I want to say, primarily off of 447 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 2: the black community. 448 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: To that point, I am Bori. I'll be curious to 449 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: hear your thoughts. I personally do not know any white 450 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: people who grew up drinking arizonas that's not a thing 451 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: for the white folks that I've ever come in contact with. 452 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 2: It. 453 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 3: It was just I don't know about I can't speak 454 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 3: to that, but I can't say that. It was just 455 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 3: so much more accessible than Snapple ever was was in glass. 456 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 3: What am I a fucking senator? My mom's my mom, 457 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 3: my single mom is gonna buy me that bottle drink? 458 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 4: No? 459 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was too It had too many like fancy conversion. 460 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: That's it's the third pair that got me. I was 461 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,239 Speaker 1: making it through with the originals, but this is the 462 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: third one that really broke me. 463 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 3: Yo. 464 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 4: Sit ready for For the listeners who are aren't participating 465 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 4: via the visual which you should watch YouTube, just know 466 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 4: there's been three pairs of glasses. 467 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 3: Man. 468 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: Kobe continually is changing glasses throughout throughout the podcast, and 469 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: it keeps getting funnier every time. 470 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 2: Going through a lot of emotions overhead. And you know, 471 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: just from what y'all saying too, it's like you think 472 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 2: about to David's point about what we have access to, 473 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 2: like none of that shit is is a coincidence. You 474 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 2: feel like they decide what products go with. There's a 475 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: reason that there's a lot more echo unlimited in my 476 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: neighborhood than in the suburbs. Like we like we get 477 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: what they decide that we get too shot from, and 478 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 2: they know what is going to be attract Now, the 479 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 2: other part I'll speak to is that they also create 480 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 2: like a pipeline, like a consumer pipeline. So in the 481 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: same way where like if you will start let's say, 482 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 2: like vaping early, then later on you might start smoking cigarettes. Yeah, right, 483 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 2: because I got you on the candy flavors. So now 484 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 2: if I'm a youngin and I keep grabbing this this 485 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: twenty three ounce, you know what I'm saying, can juice? 486 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 2: As I get older, I'm a reach for that same 487 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: size can. 488 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean. Damn, damn, I do 489 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 3: love talking. I'm just come on. 490 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: They're creating a relationship with that physical body in a 491 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: way that's that I grow up. No, I don't drink 492 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: juice anymore, but sure I enjoy a liquor or a 493 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: beer in this exact same body. 494 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, on a hot day, it's like it's it's like 495 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 3: you yet, man, damn. 496 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: Right, and then the bodega, it's literally like it's side 497 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: by side. It's the same. It's that same one long fridge. 498 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, yeah, and they push them Arizona's as close 499 00:29:55,640 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: to the the alcohol is a hote real is Oh 500 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: they go right next to each other. Damn, this is 501 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: heavy shit. 502 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 3: Now. You know who keep making money off of that? 503 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: Big boy six ' eight six eight, Don Yugyo. So 504 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: let's talk about that a little bit. Because Don Valtaggio 505 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: and John far Alito, as you already suggested, get into 506 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: this legal battle starting I think in two thousand and 507 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: seven is when they start fighting over the who has 508 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: rights to the company. John wants to be able to 509 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: like sell it internationally, like he wants to sell his 510 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: shares to basically make it like an international market thing, 511 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: and Don instead just wants to buy him out. It 512 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: takes all the way until twenty fifteen for them to 513 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: ultimately resolve this, and it's in part because Don was 514 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: trying to undersell the price of the company. He basically suggests, like, yeah, 515 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: we're only worth like four hundred and thirty million or 516 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: something like that. John's like, Nona, no, that shit's worth 517 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: six billion dollars and he's lying. And so they go 518 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: through like this major infighting of how much the company 519 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: is worth, and ultimately in twenty fifteen they settle for 520 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: a billion dollars. Why he basically gets a billion dollars 521 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: bill out of his share half of the of the 522 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: company command. 523 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 3: It's crazy. Everybody's talking about jay Z making a billion 524 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 3: off of liquor a bill off of juices, off of 525 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 3: Juice Baby Regional juices. 526 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, ninety, here's the ultime. 527 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 3: What is in there? 528 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: Well, that's I'm so glad you asked that question, because 529 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: even as you're saying juice, that is not really an 530 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: accurate representation of what it is. It's in fact five 531 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: percent to ten percent juice, depending on which product you're choosing. 532 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: They never really exceed ten percent juice. And then the 533 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: rest of it, I guess, is like air conditioning, cooler 534 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: or some shit. It's just it's just other stuff sort 535 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: of mixed in. And in fact, I look this up 536 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: on their website, all of the drinks, the sugar percentage 537 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: for all of their drinks range somewhere between fifty eight 538 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: percent to one hundred and eight percent of your daily 539 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: recommended dosage of sugar for a single can one can 540 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: and you can eat drink one hundred and eight percent 541 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: of the sugar you're supposed to have for a. 542 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 3: Day, and that's what if you drink it all the 543 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 3: way to school. 544 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: That's just one can. 545 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 3: You got a whole rest of your day. 546 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: And they're ninety nine cents. So yay, I'm gonna get 547 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: another can? 548 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 3: Is the one? Okay? Can I ask? This is the 549 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 3: one that's one O eight. That's the soda ones they 550 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 3: have right now. 551 00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: I either have the. 552 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 3: I'm not. 553 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: I wish it was, And no, I haven't had their sodas. 554 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: I've healed. I've tried to be better about my relationship 555 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: with these things. 556 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 3: Oh really, I had, man when I had first This 557 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 3: is my Arizona struggle. When I first moved to La 558 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 3: I was down bad. I didn't live nowhere. I was 559 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 3: just I would go do comedy for like four hours 560 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 3: a night, and then I would go to seven to eleven. 561 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 3: I get one of the five fifty pizza five fifty 562 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 3: five pizzas and one of those Cherry Lime arizonas. 563 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: Fuck the soda, Yeah them Lime rickeys, you're talking about that? 564 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 3: Yeah Lime Ricky's. And now I'm do I know if 565 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 3: I can have kids. 566 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: Hey, there's only one way to find out, my guy. 567 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 3: For real, many good practicing. 568 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred and eight is not. In fact, the 569 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: Sodas one hundred and eight was from like the strawberry 570 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,959 Speaker 1: Kiwi flavor I think that I saw, and it's just 571 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: it's just pure fucking sugar all the way to the bottom. 572 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: It's a mix of sugar mouthwash, you know what I'm saying. 573 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 2: And were out here talking about, oh what kind of 574 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 2: what kind of liquid diabetes? 575 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 3: You like? 576 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, because we again we keep 577 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 2: like we keep pushing up, keep like idolizing like this 578 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 2: really shitty things that we get. I'm not going to 579 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 2: say it goes back to Chipling's that's another podcast. But 580 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 2: but the leftovers that we then, you know, kind of 581 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 2: put our like our kind of sauce our like swag 582 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 2: onto and make it like dope to have one. 583 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 4: Right. 584 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 2: Let me let me give you. Let me give you 585 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 2: a couple of important numbers there have been for all 586 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 2: of the basketball. 587 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 3: The reason is this is such a problem is because 588 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 3: it is delicious. 589 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, They're unbelievably yummy, and it's part of the reason 590 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 1: I don't get them anymore is because I truly do 591 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: think I would restore a deep, deep addiction to them, 592 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: not because I think I'm better than it, if that 593 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: makes sense. 594 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 3: No, I understand you have to stay away because you 595 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 3: love it. 596 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: No, it just does seem like the deep roots of 597 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,760 Speaker 1: this relationship that we're all speaking to sort of create 598 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: this damaging effect on the black community, especially right like 599 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: we we created this relationship. And that's an interesting fact 600 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 1: inside of all of this, because specifically, once Don takes 601 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: over the company, people start pushing back about the pricing, right, 602 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: or rather like people they're not pushing back, but they're 603 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 1: sort of acknowledging that, like it's weird that he is 604 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: able to still keep the price point at ninety nine 605 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: cents given the inflation that's happened in every other product 606 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: across every other industry in the world. Frankly, so that's 607 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: sort of what he points to is not so much 608 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: the deal, but he says that part of the way 609 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 1: that we're able to keep the price so low is 610 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: we don't do any marketing. So and when every other 611 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: company is having to shell out money to be able 612 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: to get fucking Beyonce or Drake to drink sprite or 613 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: whatever the fuck to keep you addicted wanting more of this, 614 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: he just says word of mouth is enough effectively to 615 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 1: keep people wanting more Arizonas, and that to me feels 616 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: like crack. 617 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 3: Fucked up because it is that's all. 618 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: I've never read an Arizona ad. I don't see no 619 00:36:54,480 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: Arizona commercials, but everybody I've ever loved has poison themselves 620 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: with Arizonas and that seems crazy. 621 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 2: God, bro, we only here talking about crack. Yeah, come on, bro, 622 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 2: that ship just said mere here talking about crack in 623 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 2: the community. 624 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 3: This, you know, I know what else I don't like. 625 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 3: Crack has had bigger endorsement dollars than Arizona. 626 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, jay Z talking about famous people talk about crack. 627 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 3: Fuck Yes, Wow, damn. 628 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 2: When the dots started to connect to my head because 629 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 2: we crack? You like, well, who's responsible? 630 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 3: Right? The C I A right? What C I A? 631 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 2: Three letters? Who is responsible for drinks that come into 632 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 2: the hood? 633 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 3: The F D A? 634 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: Oh? 635 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 2: Come on? 636 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 3: Food and food? And what's the D stand for? Not 637 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 3: heavy D drug? Food and drug? 638 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 2: Food and drug not not food. 639 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 3: This goes all the way to the top. That's crazy. 640 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: I never thought about that. Why are they doing foods 641 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: and drugs? 642 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 3: They aren't similar products. 643 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: No one of those should not be connected to the 644 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: other one, and there should be a food And. 645 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 2: Just when you thought he was, don't it don't make 646 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:34,919 Speaker 2: no sense? 647 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 3: I was like, for sure, he doesn't have any more passibly, 648 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 3: where would he? Where would he? Where would he keep. 649 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: This wall of sunglasses and readers? 650 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 3: Man, this is a hard I feel like this is 651 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 3: It's not often that we have a conspiracy that just 652 00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 3: shows up, good to go on stept like that, but 653 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 3: this is I mean, I don't know what's to argue. 654 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. The other worthy note inside of this that I 655 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: think we shouldn't ignore is that John Feralalito, who is 656 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: the guy who basically makes a billion dollars selling his 657 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: half of the company. John goes on to end up 658 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: in a different lawsuit when he supposedly, during a mulligan 659 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: on a golf course, hit another person in the head 660 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 1: with a golf ball, leaving them unconscious. Right, And he 661 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: gets into this lawsuit and they if you hit somebody 662 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: with the golf ball, well that his claim is that 663 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: it was a mulligan and then it accidentally hits this 664 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: other person, right, or like he maybe he was going 665 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 1: after a mulligan and was trying to fix it. And 666 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: then hit a person whatever. But part of what they 667 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: claim is like, yeah, accidents like this can occur on 668 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: golf courses. You sign waivers that make it sort of 669 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: like possible whatever that this could happen, and you acknowledge that. 670 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: But their point in the lawsuit is that he hit 671 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: the person at point blank range, that it was not 672 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: in fact nearly as much of a mulligan as they're 673 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: trying to pretend it was, but in fact just a 674 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: straight shot at a person said that knocked them unconscious. 675 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: And Kofi, this does not not feel like the mob 676 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: that you're speaking about. 677 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, we look, I don't play golf. 678 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 2: It ain't no way, ain't no way you're going to 679 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 2: hit somebody from close range or a golf ball so 680 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 2: hard it knocks them unconscious and it's an accident. What, 681 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 2: let me ask you, was this man laying down in 682 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 2: front of the teeth. There's so much that's not being 683 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 2: not being shared about this story that they're trying to 684 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 2: cover up. He's got the money for it, and quite frankly, 685 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 2: I'm worried for that witness, Like people go listen. 686 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, also because a mulligan you take after you hit 687 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 3: the shot right like, and then you're like, oh, it's 688 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 3: a Mulligan, so that means he killed that man. And 689 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 3: then he was like awesome Mulligan. 690 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, he fucked the dude up real bad. 691 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: He made him hold the golf ball in his mouth 692 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: while he's swaying through, and then he's like, Mulligan, I'm 693 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: gonna do that again, and I'm taking my shot back. 694 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 695 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 2: It's the whoa, whoa, whoa, what's wrong with this guy 696 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 2: over here tripping on the golf course? Hey, So it's 697 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 2: it's like, Oh, other thing I'm glad that you brought 698 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,839 Speaker 2: up is that there is there's such a big Dawn 699 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 2: like Don Corleoni energy around both of these dudes because 700 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 2: right now, because there was an interview with with Dawn 701 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 2: of Otaggio from Monsters in Forbes and this dude, oh 702 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 2: back to is there a couple important numbers to give 703 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 2: you all some some perspective. For all the money that 704 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 2: they've made off of the community, there has not been one, 705 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 2: not one like roller ring dance, not one. Not one 706 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,439 Speaker 2: basketball tournament, yeah, not one. We can't get a three 707 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 2: three Arizona, we can't. We can't get jerseys, yeah, you 708 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,240 Speaker 2: know with green tea on the back. We can't get those. 709 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 2: We can't, So there's been zero. 710 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: The Phoenix Suns having the Arizona label on them feels 711 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 1: like an easy wonder one like that just seems like clear, 712 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 1: good business and and nothing. 713 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 3: They don't even kind of do that ship because that's 714 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 3: the that's the problem, right. They don't want to be 715 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 3: have to be accountable. That's why they didn't want to 716 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 3: go international. There's gotta be Don, it's on. 717 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 1: Paper, and that's some mob shit, right because then it 718 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 1: becomes like, nah, I'm not. And part of that's that's 719 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: what they say in terms of keeping the price point 720 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: and ninety nine cents, is that Don's argument is that 721 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 1: he would like to keep the company at the roots 722 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: that sort of made it popular in the first place. 723 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 1: He's like, I don't want to grow this thing because 724 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: then we will lose customers. And people have acknowledged that, 725 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 1: like your company is losing money in this non inflation world, right, 726 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 1: like there you inflate because that's how you keep up 727 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: with the fucking market. But he's like, nah, keep it 728 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 1: at ninety nine cents, because then we'll lose any of 729 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: our customers who already buy it. 730 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 2: Right to keep it. In that sense, and a lot 731 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 2: of that you talk about how do they do it, 732 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,320 Speaker 2: there's a lot of the there's a lot of that 733 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 2: same secrecy of the mafia, of like don't pay, don't 734 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 2: worry about it, don't about it? 735 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 3: We wait, whoa what? All the questions. 736 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 2: Forbes magazine came to his office, which is massive. He 737 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 2: has like his own woodworkers inside that. They came into 738 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 2: his office and they were like, hey, what is your 739 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 2: marketing budget? 740 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 3: Like how big is it? You know what? His answer was, 741 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:21,359 Speaker 3: real ship, forget about it. His answer is be goes, 742 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 3: how big is my budget? It's sixth sakes, come on that. 743 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 3: Damn that. I didn't want to figure it was cool, 744 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 3: but that that was good. Damn cool ship man, he's 745 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:45,720 Speaker 3: he's straight gangster. 746 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: The final piece that I'll share with you guys, and 747 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 1: as far as the research, is that the name Arizona. 748 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 3: Actually, everybody, you have to watch this on YouTube because 749 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,280 Speaker 3: my man, you thought the work was in the research. 750 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: Five glasses deep and I don't think this train is 751 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 1: stopping any time. But the last piece that I'll share 752 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 1: with you is that they named the company Arizona, but 753 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 1: it was originally meant to be named Santa Fe, after 754 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: his I guess, desert style home that he had in 755 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: New York. He had like some random desert style home 756 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,800 Speaker 1: living in New York, and he wanted to name it 757 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: Santa Fe, but opted to not name it Santa Fe 758 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 1: because it didn't look good on the can and decided 759 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: on Arizona, even though he had never been to Arizona. 760 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 1: In fact, had never even crossed the Mississippi like cross 761 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 1: west of the Mississippi. 762 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 3: I did just say, he's never been in New Jersey. 763 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: No, he's never fucking left New York the entire time. 764 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 3: And also, by the way, Arizona, what they got you 765 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,240 Speaker 3: trouble for? At first? It's vaguely Native American. I've always 766 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:19,919 Speaker 3: felt that way. 767 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there clearly is an obsession with sort 768 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: of marginalized people in their product building, right, And so 769 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,439 Speaker 1: he's like, all right, I got in trouble last time 770 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 1: for naming this shit after a bunch of Native Americans. 771 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 1: I'll do something a little more subtle in being like 772 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:42,320 Speaker 1: nodding to that culture and that look, that esthetic without 773 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 1: getting the associations that I had last time, thus making 774 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 1: it a minority product. Thus attracting minorities, thus making assault 775 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: sick and die. 776 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 3: Damn damn sweet keew strawberry favored death. 777 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and what a what a fucking yummy death it is? 778 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 1: You know, I think on my deathbed, I want somebody 779 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,760 Speaker 1: to just run across the street to a gas station 780 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: and bring back an Arizona. 781 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 3: If I know it's a rap, yeah, oh yeah. 782 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 2: If it's over come on like, put it in, put 783 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,840 Speaker 2: it in, put it in the IV drip like, let 784 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,479 Speaker 2: it come into my veins slowly, yo. 785 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 3: Bear me with the Muco mango in the casket. Come 786 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 3: on now, died like you lived mucho. 787 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,839 Speaker 1: It sounds like, if I were to go so far 788 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 1: as to say it sounds like we're all in agreement 789 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 1: on this one, it doesn't. It doesn't feel like anybody 790 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 1: even remotely is arguing that they are not intentionally trying 791 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 1: to profit off of the black community and possibly destroy 792 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: the black community in the process. 793 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, I think we're Yeah, yeah, I think 794 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 2: I think we just we discovered the crack conspiracy of 795 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 2: this this era. 796 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 3: And I don't. 797 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 2: I don't know who's gonna come for us. But when 798 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 2: y'all come, if y'all could bring I personally, I like 799 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 2: the water up the flavor. But but you're gonna come 800 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 2: for me, bring me that twenty three ounces of sweet. 801 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 1: If you want to assassinate Kofe, he would love for 802 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:42,320 Speaker 1: you to do it watermelon flavor style and not no 803 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,240 Speaker 1: gun shot to the head. Just just lay some poison 804 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 1: in his watermelon iced tea and let him go out piecea. 805 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,320 Speaker 2: Now I want you to put I want you to 806 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 2: put the green tea, the big can into a T 807 00:48:54,600 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 2: shirt gun and fire that. Let that be my seat shut. 808 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, just blow his brains out with sweet tea. This 809 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,879 Speaker 1: is this has been heavy. I'll say that we've we've 810 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,799 Speaker 1: certainly we've taken on a heavy toll today in this unpacking. 811 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. Sometimes it's not always fun and games over here, 812 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:22,320 Speaker 3: you know. 813 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes we get a little serious and we hope 814 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 1: that you take this seriously at home and recognize the 815 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 1: damage being done to your community. For show, Kobe, do 816 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,359 Speaker 1: you want to tell the people where they can find 817 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 1: you and what cool shit you have going on? 818 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, let me get a let me get serious. So yo, 819 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:52,320 Speaker 2: y'all can find me on Instagram. I'm at Kofe Comic. 820 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 3: Uh. 821 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 2: If you garden, I'm at bek Green Gardener. I throw 822 00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,720 Speaker 2: a dope show every Sunday in manhatt And called Secret 823 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 2: Socks Comedy. I'm on YouTube. Look at my name. You 824 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 2: know all them things? 825 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 3: You know? 826 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 2: Also you know you know if you are the striker 827 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,840 Speaker 2: is over now. I got tons of ideas. Uh Jamia 828 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 2: White holl at me, Uh yeah, any of the girls 829 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,719 Speaker 2: that was on girlfriends holler at me for. 830 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 3: Real, even a hippie one, oh bro when the show 831 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:27,360 Speaker 3: was on. 832 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 2: That's the thing I didn't I didn't want to get 833 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 2: into right now because this is like a three all conversation. 834 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 2: But I loved when it used to be groups of 835 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 2: women and then so you would bones over which one 836 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 2: you liked. It was like that with Braxton's, Like that 837 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 2: would tlcing, like that would Living Single? Who y'all think 838 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,839 Speaker 2: was the funnest I for living single? Real quick? 839 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 3: Oh man, I saw that you would pitch this as 840 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 3: a topic, see that bra and so difficult. 841 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 1: I think a younger me thought it was regime. That's 842 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 1: the easy choice, for easy choice, and I think the 843 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 1: older me thinks it was Max. I think Max was 844 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 1: the baddest of the four of them, and we we 845 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:07,359 Speaker 1: didn't give her. 846 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,359 Speaker 3: Her if I'm going to stand on business, if I'm 847 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 3: going to stand on the principles that I have set 848 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 3: for and try to live up to within my life. 849 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 3: I am a Maxine guy. 850 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 1: You're a Maxine guy. 851 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 3: She was like, Okay, she was bad. She was a lawyer, 852 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 3: she was she was fucking eating everything in sight. Hilarious. 853 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 2: Fine, I've seen Saint Claire mmmm, like when she wasn't 854 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 2: being like silly on KIM four. That could be a 855 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 2: three hour conversation. 856 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a whole other one. 857 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 1: No, And I think there's a fair argument for everybody. 858 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,799 Speaker 2: Trying to shut us down. See, that's the mafia. That's 859 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:57,320 Speaker 2: the mafia. 860 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 1: I truly do think there's there's You could make an 861 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 1: argument for any one of these women, and I would not. 862 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 1: This doesn't feel like this would turn into a rageful argument. 863 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,360 Speaker 1: It truly does feel like a real discourse that we 864 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:10,919 Speaker 1: could reach. 865 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 2: You know, it's definitely from a place of love and 866 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 2: also how you know, kind of like the linguistics of 867 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 2: how we define what is fine, what is bad, what 868 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 2: is sexy? 869 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 3: Yeah that's another day. 870 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 1: Well follow Kobe, go go check out all of his ship. 871 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 1: He's amazing and Bory Where where can they find you. 872 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 3: Cool guy jokes eighty seven on Instagram. Check the Instagram out. 873 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 3: That's my only social it'll it'll all have dates and 874 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 3: tours coming up soon. 875 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,480 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, and if you want to follow me, you 876 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 1: can do it all at length. Saint Kerman, we have merch. 877 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,720 Speaker 1: We would love for you to buy some of the merch. 878 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 1: It's at merch Central dot mymama told me dot com. 879 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 3: I believe it's my mama told me merch Central, right. 880 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 1: Okay, it's one of those and you'll figure it out. 881 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 1: Just look up my mama told me merch. You'll find 882 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 1: your way there. And as always, if you want to 883 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 1: send us your own drops, your own conspiracy theories, if 884 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,839 Speaker 1: you want to make a counter argument for the nutritional 885 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,319 Speaker 1: value of Arizona iced teas, you can send it all 886 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 1: to my mama pod at gmail dot com. We would 887 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 1: love to hear from you. Please subscribe, Like, do all 888 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,800 Speaker 1: the things that you're supposed to do on all the 889 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 1: platforms that you're supposed to do them on. That should 890 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:39,799 Speaker 1: cover that, bye, bitch. The government, my chips and your 891 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,760 Speaker 1: Quala bears are racist. 892 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,319 Speaker 3: The host layers money. 893 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 1: Turning stuff. I can't tell me nothing