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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

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Speaker 2: Hi. Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death.

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Speaker 1: On today's episode, we're going to talk about an influencer

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Speaker 1: who discovered he had cancer after his daughter died in Utero.

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Speaker 1: That tragic helicopter crash in New York City that was

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Speaker 1: caught on film. A dead body left in a closet

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Speaker 1: in a hotel room. That one's a real doozy, wrong

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Speaker 1: lab results that led to an abortion. That one is

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Speaker 1: probably going to you guys are going to hear me

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Speaker 1: go on a rant about that. A dead fetus that

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Speaker 1: was found randomly on a New York City street, and

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Speaker 1: more So, First, let me for those of you who

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Speaker 1: are watching this episode, I look a little different today

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Speaker 1: because I have absolutely no makeup on because I got

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Speaker 1: a biopsy on my face, which is just this random

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Speaker 1: like dark spot next to my nose. So if you're

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Speaker 1: watching this, just that's that's why I look like this.

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Speaker 2: You just know you're finding everybody.

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Speaker 1: It's not the ugly, it's just like I don't normally

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Speaker 1: I put a pound of blush on in my face

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Speaker 1: right now just looks like super white, and I look

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Speaker 1: ill and I'm fine. I'll keep you updated on whatever

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Speaker 1: those results are. But like, that's that's just what it is.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, let's get let's get started on this case

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Speaker 1: of the influencer who discovered that he had cancer after

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Speaker 1: his wife was having a miscarriage.

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Speaker 2: This one is so insane. Thank you to the listener

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Speaker 2: that sent it in. As soon as she said it,

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, I have to look

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Speaker 2: into this. So Sidney Raz he's a life hack influencer.

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Speaker 2: He has over four point five million followers on TikTok

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Speaker 2: over a million on Instagram. He shared that his daughter

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Speaker 2: died in utero at twenty six weeks and after her death,

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Speaker 2: he and his wife had to under genetic testing to

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Speaker 2: see exactly what went wrong. And from the test, they

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Speaker 2: found that the baby had this genetic deletion that could

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Speaker 2: cause stomach cancer. Because of this, he scheduled in endoscopy

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Speaker 2: and then he found out he had stomach cancer.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy to think that his baby girl

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Speaker 1: that was going to be born, actually saved his life.

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Speaker 2: Probably, Yeah, I mean, this is why I think DNA

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Speaker 2: stories are so cool. Obviously, this is such a tragic

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Speaker 2: thing that happened to him, and then on top of

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Speaker 2: losing your child, you now find out you have cancer.

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Speaker 2: But I feel like in this case, this ends up

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Speaker 2: being best case scenario for him because he didn't have

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Speaker 2: any symptoms, and his doctors were saying that they might

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Speaker 2: have not discovered it for a couple more years, and

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Speaker 2: by that point he would have been stage three or four,

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Speaker 2: which could have been deadly. So let's first talk about

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Speaker 2: what happened to the baby that the wife was pregnant with.

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Speaker 2: Twenty six weeks is far along to lose a baby,

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Speaker 2: so that's terrible.

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Speaker 1: And they diagnosed the baby with having this condition hollow prosencephally,

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Speaker 1: and basically what that is is that you know when

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Speaker 1: you look at a brain and it looks like there's

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Speaker 1: a giant crack down the middle, it's split into like

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Speaker 1: a right and a left half. Yeah, well that doesn't

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Speaker 1: form properly. And not only the brain, but the facial

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Speaker 1: very malformed. So sometimes when a baby has this condition

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Speaker 1: very severe, they actually look like a cightclops, like there's

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Speaker 1: just depends on the severity of the condition as to

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Speaker 1: what the fetus would look like in that situation. But

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Speaker 1: they said that they noticed it. I guess they didn't

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's something they would have caught earlier

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Speaker 1: if it was that, if it was that severe. But possibly,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. But lest anytime, I mean really, anytime

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Speaker 1: you should always try to get genetic testing if you

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Speaker 1: want to. But especially with later term babies like this,

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Speaker 1: females as well. So once they discovered this gene, this

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Speaker 1: it's called hereditary diffuse gastro cancer. So normally when you

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Speaker 1: So when they did his his stomach looked normal to

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Speaker 1: little small area of cancer. Now, if he didn't get

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Speaker 2: So remember we had a case of this in the book.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So in my book Nicole an Jemy's Anatomy, we

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Speaker 1: had a case, a similar case of a twenty two

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Speaker 1: And then they figured out that the grandmam had this gene.

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Speaker 1: She got fifty stomach biopsies taken and the same thing

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Speaker 1: they told her, they found a small area of cancer.

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Speaker 1: So it seems really extreme. But the treatment for this

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Speaker 1: So what happens because he's pretty young, So what happens now, Like,

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Speaker 1: So your GI system starts at your mouth, and then

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Speaker 1: Really you can't eat like bigger chunks of food. You

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Speaker 2: The way that he eats. I mean, again, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to reiterate, this is such a tragic thing that have

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Speaker 2: well he could, you know, kind of come back from

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Speaker 2: it's really it's really cool that you know, science is

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Speaker 2: And for women, it's even more difficult because you have

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Speaker 2: a sixty percent chance of developing lobular breast cancer, which

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Speaker 2: why this genetic it's very important to know when you know,

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Speaker 1: Ask you, did anybody in your family have cancer or anything,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's cool.

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Speaker 1: For awareness because just a lot of people don't really

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Speaker 1: just always good to know when you have people in

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Speaker 2: Is this something that's genetic? Yeah, all right, let's move

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Speaker 2: on to this helicopter crash. So last Thursday afternoon, this

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Speaker 2: insane video came out showing this helicopter crashing into the

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Speaker 2: then the blades just totally separate in the air. So

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Speaker 2: inside of it. I know, and I was.

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Speaker 1: Saying to you that whether you believe in God or not, whatever, like,

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Speaker 2: In classic Edward, You're not Edward Twilight, Charles Colin the

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Speaker 2: if the FBI is interviewing women, they have enough evidence

436
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 2: to know that he's done this, So how are they

437
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 2: filing this? How do they have enough evidence to file

438
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 2: this lawsuit but not enough to get him charged.

439
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: I don't under I just really don't understand it. I mean,

440
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: I like, obviously you want to you want you're gonna

441
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 1: sue the guy. Like what is suing a person going

442
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 1: to do? He's a pharmacist, he's not, he's not he

443
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: doesn't have a shit ton of money like that.

444
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 2: Like, I don't think they're suing him. I think they're

445
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 2: suing the Medical Center for not having high enough security

446
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 2: that they should have that allowed him to do this.

447
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that that for sure, if somebody if

448
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 1: that's happening at work, and especially if they knew it

449
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: they and they were just like brushing it under the rug.

450
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 2: This scares the shit out of me. I will be

451
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 2: following Gabe's footsteps and putting the little cutout posted note

452
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 2: over my cameras. I think they even make special phone

453
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 2: cases to do it. It's so terrifying.

454
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: I it no, it's it, like seriously is because then

455
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,679
Speaker 1: like if he could see stuff through the camera, then

456
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 1: they're like listening to you in your house too.

457
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 2: Well, Instagram's already listening to you in your house.

458
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 1: That that is definitely true. But what is the newest

459
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: thing that was popping up we were talking about recently?

460
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 1: So we know, we all know I have my Mezza thelium,

461
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 1: my ads, but I had I had a totally new

462
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: set of ads last week that I was like, this

463
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: is ridiculous because I think it was something I just

464
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: said to you in passing, Well, do.

465
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 2: You want to hear something crazy that happened?

466
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: So I got like some targeted ad for a Phillies

467
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: hat and I liked it, and then I ordered it

468
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: and I got it and it was like not the

469
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: right color.

470
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 2: So I was like, I'm going to return it.

471
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 1: But before I decided to return it, I took a

472
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 1: picture of it and I sent it to my brother

473
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: and I said, I don't like, I don't really like

474
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: the way this looks.

475
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 2: Do you want it?

476
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 1: Because if you don't want it, then I'm going to

477
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 1: return it. And he said no, So fine. Gabe wasn't

478
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 1: even home at all when all this went down. So

479
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 1: then like last night, he sends me a picture of

480
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: the hat and he's like, oh, you might like this hat,

481
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: and it's the same hat, and I'm just like, this

482
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: is outrageous. If it's it's not like it's like a

483
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: very weird Phillies ha, it's like not the traditional one

484
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 1: that And I'm just like, are we all somehow connected

485
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 1: that It's like that picture was taken in this house

486
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 1: of that or something was from that place from this house.

487
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 2: It's just weird. I think it is starting to connect

488
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: it or it figures out who's in your household, because

489
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 2: half the reals, Ricky sends me or vice versa, where

490
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 2: like we already saw that earlier today, so you're getting

491
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 2: fed the same as that content.

492
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and out of the millions and billions of videos

493
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: on Instagram, you're like, how are we both individually seeing

494
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: like the same video exactly when it doesn't even have

495
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 1: like crazy views or whatever.

496
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel horrible for these women. It's

497
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 2: such an invasion of privacy. It's worse than having somebody

498
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 2: like peeping in your window, because they're in your house essentially,

499
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 2: and you don't even know it. It's such an invasion

500
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 2: of privacy. Yeah, and it's scary because you're just like,

501
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 2: when you're in your house, it's your safe space. You know,

502
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 2: you don't think that people are listening and watching you, no, exactly,

503
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 2: but anymore today you just never know. Yeah, all right.

504
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 2: So in Key Largo, Florida, the family of this forty

505
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 2: three year old woman had called police because they hadn't

506
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 2: heard from her in a couple of days, which wasn't normal.

507
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 2: So police figure out that at some point she met

508
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: up with this guy at a local hotel. He ended

509
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 2: up staying tonight, but checked out the next day and

510
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 2: went about his day. Apparently, when he checked out, the

511
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: cleaning people saw that there was a bloody sheets and

512
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: towels stuffed in a trash bag, but didn't think to

513
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 2: contact police, so they just threw it out and didn't

514
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 2: say anything. Then they cleaned the room. They let another

515
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 2: family check into the room they stayed overnight, checked out

516
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 2: the next day, and by the time police get involved.

517
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 2: At this point, they go back in the room and

518
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: find the woman stuffed in a closet where the air

519
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: conditioner was. So these people had no idea they were

520
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 2: staying in a hotel room with a dead.

521
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: Body, right, And when you stay in a hotel room,

522
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: you don't normally, I mean, obviously you would open a closet,

523
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: but I guess some of them have a I don't

524
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: know why one would have an air conditioning closet, but

525
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: I guess some of them might have.

526
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 2: No, that's not true. One of the hotel rooms that.

527
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: We stay in when we go to Cape May is

528
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: like an older building, and I think that there's a

529
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: hot water heater in one of the doors. I never

530
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: looked in there, but I remember opening it and looking

531
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: in there, so I could totally see. I guess how

532
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: something like that could happen. Oh my god, could you imagine?

533
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: Because my kids When we go into a hotel room,

534
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: they open and explore every single inch of the hotel room.

535
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: They just want to know, like this is different from

536
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: where we live. We open every drawer, we want to

537
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: see what everything is. Could you imagine if kids or

538
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: something opened the door and saw a dead woman that

539
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: was beat to death in the closet.

540
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 2: No, I really can't. And then I have to ask,

541
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 2: like did that not smell? Because even if she was

542
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 2: killed that morning, it's hours later, it's Florida. I know

543
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: she was next to an air conditioner, but yeah, I

544
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 2: don't know. Not in a day.

545
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: It might have smelled like a little off, but not really.

546
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: I mean just being there a day. If if it

547
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 1: was like a normal room temperature room, or even the

548
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: air was on it, it doesn't have to smell.

549
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 2: In a day like that.

550
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: And like I said, like how many times if you've

551
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: been in a hotel room where it like there's like

552
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: a weird smell and you're just like, oh whatever, Like

553
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: a pair of a lot of people don't really know

554
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: what the smell of a decomposing body smells like. I

555
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: feel like everyone should because at least everyone smelled either

556
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: a dead animal or like rotted meat, even if you

557
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: throw it in your trash can and open your trash

558
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: can and it stinks so bad, like it has a

559
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: very specific smell to me, of like a decomp smell.

560
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: But I don't know, Like who knows. Do you think

561
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: they tell the family what happened? Or you just see

562
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: this article and you just hope it wasn't you. These

563
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: people have no idea, and like they might not even

564
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: see the article because I feel like I found this

565
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: on like a more I mean, maybe the story just

566
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: came out, but this was on like a smaller local news.

567
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: It's not like from CNN or anything, so they might

568
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: not ever know. I mean I hope they do, and

569
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: I hope they come forward and say, like how would

570
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: you even know?

571
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: It's just it's just messed up, all right. This twenty

572
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,719
Speaker 2: eight year old woman in her fiance, they had been

573
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 2: trying I have a baby for a while and they

574
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: ended up breaking up because it was too much frustration.

575
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: So they were only broken up for a couple of weeks,

576
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: and in that time she had slept with somebody else,

577
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 2: so they get back together.

578
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: So let's stop right there already, Like she already sucks, right,

579
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: like you're trying to start a family with somebody, and

580
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: you break up because you're stressed out about it, So

581
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: the solution is to go have sex with somebody else.

582
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: Well, how do you know she broke up with him?

583
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: She said they broke up because of stress and aggravation

584
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: from inability to conceive.

585
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what if he said, I don't want to

586
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: do this anymore still, like three weeks?

587
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: Dude?

588
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: No, all right, Well, you're not going to be in

589
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: the popular opinion with this one, because when most people

590
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: break up with each other, they don't like, wait a while.

591
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: So if you really think, if you really like, if

592
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: you're with somebody that you're planning on marrying and that

593
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: you love, you're not having sex with somebody else like

594
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: a couple of days after you, guys break up.

595
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

596
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: Well I don't think I'm in the minority.

597
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: With that, but listen, I would not, but most people do.

598
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: And I think you're gonna be like in the unpopular

599
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: opinion about that. And you don't know why they broke up,

600
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: so let's chill out with me. I do know why

601
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 2: they broke up.

602
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: It said because of stress and aggravation from their inability

603
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: to conceive.

604
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 2: But you're saying that if she broke up with him

605
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: and that was the love of her life, why is

606
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: she gonna go sleep with somebody like you don't know

607
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: she broke up with him, He might have broke up

608
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: with her, and then she was like, fuck you, I'm

609
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: sleeping with somebody else. Yes, no, that's that's weird, Okay,

610
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: So your judgment aside. She they end up getting back

611
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: together after a couple of weeks, and then she gets

612
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,479
Speaker 2: pregnant right away and she fears that it might be

613
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: the hookups baby. So behind her fiance's back, this is

614
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: where I could agree she's wrong. Instead of telling her

615
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: fiance what happened, that she slept with another person, she

616
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 2: meets up with this guy behind his back and has

617
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: not one, but three paternity tests to see if this

618
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: guy is the baby's dad. So two of the first

619
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 2: two tests were inconclusive. So then they find it another

620
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 2: place and do another fraternity test, and then she goes

621
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 2: for it and has a gender reveal party with the

622
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: fiance and everything. This whole time he's thinking it's his kid,

623
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: and then she gets a call from the place that

624
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,959
Speaker 2: says they are ninety nine point nine to nine percent

625
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: certain that the hookup is the baby's dead.

626
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: Okay, and I love that you just think that this

627
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: is the wrong part about it. I mean, it gets

628
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: it gets way worse. So then so then she has

629
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: to tell the guy, Okay, this isn't your kid, this

630
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: is this guy I slept with his kid. And then

631
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: she gets an abortion because of it, and she was

632
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: over twenty weeks pregnant, so she decides.

633
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: I'm not keeping this kid.

634
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get an abortion, right and I don't. They

635
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: don't really weren't really clear on like if her and

636
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: her fiance decided that that's what they should do, like who,

637
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: like what made them decide, But regardless, she gets the abortion,

638
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: they stay together, and then a couple months later, she

639
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: gets a phone call that, oh, we're sorry, there was

640
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: a lab error. And in fact, that guy isn't your

641
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: baby's father. The guy that you're at who's your fiance,

642
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: is actually the father.

643
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: I'm just saying the part that you're taking of it,

644
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: that she's suck with somebody after getting broken up with

645
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: is like the least problematic part of this entire equation.

646
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: It's the fact that, like, she's not being honest with

647
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: her fiance. She's going behind his back and doing something

648
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: and then you immediately result to getting an abortion. It's ridiculous.

649
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: If you were trying so hard to have a baby,

650
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: and even if it was the other guy's baby, you

651
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: should still go forward and have it and then if

652
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: your relationship last, it lasts, and if it doesn't, it doesn't.

653
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just well and listen, like this is this

654
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: is exactly why there's people who are against abortion because

655
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: of like assholes like this that shouldn't have children. To

656
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: be honest with you, like it, it definitely is a

657
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: thing that should be available for women, but like this

658
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: to me is like an abuse of it. And it's

659
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: just it's just completely ridiculous. And once you hear the

660
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: more things like so now she's saying that she wants

661
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: to sue the company and she wants them to be

662
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: held accountable, and it's just like, dude, you fucking suck. Lady,

663
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: Like she she sucks as a person on so many levels,

664
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I think she sucks because she's

665
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: you know, not being honest with the fiance and obviously,

666
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: if something like that happened, you're not gonna want to

667
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: come forward necessarily.

668
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: I just don't think she treated it the correct way.

669
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: And I think jumping to an abortion, while it's every

670
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: woman's right to have that if they want to, it

671
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 2: was just rather extreme. And she even said after she

672
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: started the process of it, she regretted it and she

673
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: tried to backtrack, but they were like, it's too late. Listen.

674
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: Like, I've been real open with that. When Gabe and

675
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: I were dating that we broke up a lot because

676
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: it was just like, like all this stuff and the

677
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: last thing I was thinking about was ever just trying

678
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: to bang it out with somebody else. When you're like

679
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: in love with someone and you're trying to like figure

680
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: things out and stuff, you just don't go out and

681
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: have sex with somebody.

682
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: That's your experience, So chill.

683
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: It is my experience, That's what that's That's why I'm

684
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: staying my opinion.

685
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're being aggressive about it. Just simmer down.

686
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 2: The problem is not that she slept with somebody else necessarily,

687
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 2: like it's it's the fact that the subsequent series of

688
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 2: events that occurred afterwards. The company should be responsible in

689
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: some capacity for having inaccurate results and not relaying that

690
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: information for a couple of months, but they should not

691
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: be responsible for her deciding to get an abortion because

692
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: of that, because this is such a weird situation. It's

693
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: just such a weird situation. I think she should have

694
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 2: just told the fiance, like, listen, I thought we were

695
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,959
Speaker 2: done for good and I had sex with somebody else

696
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: and I don't think it's his kid, but I just

697
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: want to make sure before we go forward with this,

698
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: instead of sneakily trying to tell him it was her

699
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: baby while she thought it might have not been his baby,

700
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 2: and then you ended up losing him anyway. So and

701
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: now you you've lost your child that you work so

702
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 2: hard to can and now you don't have the fiance.

703
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: Well that's that's what is really is mind blowing, and

704
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: it's kind of like, Okay, so you were having a

705
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: hard time getting pregnant and then you finally did and

706
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: you were just like like it. It's so incredibly gross

707
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: and selfish. It like makes me like feel so uncomfortable

708
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: inside to hear about this story. And now what like

709
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: she's just gonna stay with this guy and then they're

710
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: just gonna make another kid and then that live happily

711
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: ever after. It's just gross, like you shouldn't ever be well,

712
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: they're telling people that this is okay at all. They're

713
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: not together anymore, so, like it's it's idiotic that she

714
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: even did it to beget so they're not together now

715
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: because they were together when they called and said it

716
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: was actually his baby.

717
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: She got the abortion, and so I guess at that

718
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: time he found out that it wasn't his kid. But

719
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: then they stayed together, and then a couple of months

720
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 2: later when the place found out they made a lab

721
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: error and alerted her that the fiance was actually the

722
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: kid's dad, then they broke up because he was probably

723
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: like this.

724
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: He was finally like kid, he was like, oh, you

725
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: finally saw that was the final straw.

726
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 2: I don't agree with this. I think if you want

727
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 2: to get an abortion, that's you're right. I think this

728
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: story is just ridiculous, all right.

729
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of fetuses, so this woman was just casually

730
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: walking down the street in Brooklyn and then came across

731
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: fetus on the ground. So ems said that the fetus

732
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: looked like it was about sixteen weeks, which is four

733
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: months pregnant. According to all these pregnancy websites, it says

734
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: that the baby would be about the size of an avocado.

735
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: It's you know, we've got sixteen week fetuses all the

736
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: time in surgical pathology, and I would say you could

737
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: put it in your hand and it would fill up

738
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: your hand. It's pretty decent size. If it was sitting

739
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: on the street, any person in the world would know

740
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: what it was because it's very recognizably human at that point, arms, hands, fingers, toes, toenails, eyelids,

741
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: the whole. You know, it looks like what you think

742
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: of as a fetus. So they have a crime scene

743
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: set up they're gonna show. What they'll do is they'll

744
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: send it to the medical Examiner's office. The autop see it.

745
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: They'll see if there was any evidence of trauma. I

746
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: would say that it's more than likely that someone had

747
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: some kind of a miscarriage and it just I don't

748
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: know if they were outside when it happened, or I

749
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: don't know what happened that it ended up on the sidewalk,

750
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: But I would say that it's more than likely not

751
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: like a crime per se. What do you think I mean,

752
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything else.

753
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 2: It's just.

754
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: Unless I just think it's a product of a miscarriage.

755
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 2: I think We see this a lot of times in

756
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 2: young people that get pregnant by accident and they don't

757
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: know what to do and they can't tell anybody, So

758
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: that then that's how this ends up happening, where you're

759
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: finding them like in the trash and everything. I have

760
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: a question though, when it says that the fetus is

761
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: four months old, like, this is not a four month

762
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 2: old baby, it's a fetus that is four months developed, correct, Yeah,

763
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: that's what I would think, like sixteen weeks.

764
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't really know, because I obviously,

765
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: like I didn't see the scene itself. I don't know

766
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: if there was a placenta, was there blood, was it

767
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: just a fetus on because just like obviously if you

768
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: have a miscarriage at sixteen weeks, it's like you don't

769
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: have a perfectly clean fetus coming out by itself without

770
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: a lot of blood and the placenta and the other

771
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: products of conception. So that would imply to me that

772
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: it was moved from wherever however it left the mom's

773
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: belly at that point. So I mean that's kind of

774
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: the investigation they're gonna have to do. But like you said,

775
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: like and this this could just happen too. Like if

776
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: you if you have a miscarriage at your house, I

777
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: mean you don't you don't have to go to the hospital.

778
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: I think that you should just to get checked to

779
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: make sure it all came out. But like sometimes if

780
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: you're four months along and it comes out like the

781
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 1: things sizable, like what, you can't flush it down the toilet,

782
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: Like what do you? I don't know what you're supposed

783
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: to do with it. I actually think that we had

784
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: a story that, remember, some woman had a miscarriage and

785
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: she I don't know if she tried to flush it

786
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: down the toilet or whatever she did, but she got

787
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: in trouble for it that of like disposing of a

788
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: human remains or something like that. And I don't really

789
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: know like what the proper thing is, and I'm sure

790
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: it varies from state to state.

791
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: But like if you were if you were eight.

792
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: Weeks pregnant or nine weeks pregnant, had a miscarriage, you

793
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: would just like flush it down the toilet and nobody

794
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: would even think that you were committing a crime or anything.

795
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 2: So well, I think I think it depends where you

796
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: live who considers that to be a problem. But I

797
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: think just in a lot of these cases, it's like

798
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: people don't know what to do with it. I feel

799
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 2: like in the past, we've had people even right back

800
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: to us that they had a miscarriage at their house

801
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: and they keep the fetus in like their freezer, and

802
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: it's like this way of mourning. I mean, obviously that's

803
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: really intense for some people, but like some people need

804
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: that to grieve and to heal. So I don't know,

805
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: because like I don't know what I would do in

806
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 2: that case of like preserving it if I didn't keep it,

807
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 2: because like I don't think i'd want the reminder constantly.

808
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 2: But I understand why people would do it if they

809
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: need that to mourn. It's difficult. It's yeah, you can,

810
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: you can too.

811
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: Sometimes people bring fetal remains to the funeral home to

812
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: have a burial and everything. I mean, it just depends

813
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: on what people want to do in that situation. So

814
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: I mean again, like, hopefully we hear more about this

815
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: and they tell us like, Okay, it came from here

816
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: or whatever. They can depending on if if it wasn't

817
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: that decomposed or whatever, they could possibly do DNA on

818
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: it and try to figure out who the parents are.

819
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, crazy story. I just can't imagine looking

820
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: at that. Well, you know, one time, this makes me

821
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: think of something. So one time I was in surgical

822
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: pathology and someone had a miscarriage. And I would say

823
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: it wasn't sixteen weeks, but I'd say it's more like

824
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: thirteen or fourteen weeks. Someone had a miscarriage and we

825
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: got a specimen that looked like it was pulled out

826
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: of the trash and it was literally a Rita's water

827
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: ice bag with pops you know, the you know the

828
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: popsicles that you buy at the store or the yeah,

829
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: the popsicles you buy at the store that are like

830
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: liquid and you put the box in the freezer and

831
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 1: they freeze, and two of those empty wraps like stuck together,

832
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: and there was a dead fetus stuck to all of

833
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: that stuff. Like someone threw it in the trash. And

834
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: I don't remember if it was the woman that had

835
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: the miscarriage drew it in the trash and then decided

836
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: to bring it into the hospital or whatever, But all

837
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: I know is I got a big pile of trash

838
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: with a dead feet as stuck to it. So what

839
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: possibly happened in that case is that like you have

840
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: the miscarriage and you're just like so trying because it

841
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: could be traumatizing to see that obviously, and just not

842
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: really knowing what to do and then maybe like calming down,

843
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: calling the doctor them telling you maybe to bring it

844
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: into the hospital or something.

845
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: But it was brought into us like that. Yeah, I

846
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: just think in most of these cases, people don't know

847
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: what to do. And I think there's a lot of

848
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: situations where people do get pregnant or they don't know

849
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: they're pregnant, and then something like this happens and they

850
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 2: freak out and they don't know what to do with it.

851
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: So I think that would more so explain what happened.

852
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 2: All right, our last story talk about medical schools that

853
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: are planning to stop using kidavers. How do you feel

854
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 2: about this? Obviously, I think it's a terrible idea. It's

855
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: interesting because recently I did an autopsy and there was

856
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: a medical student there. This was probably like more last year.

857
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 2: There was a medical student there that was seeing his

858
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: first autopsy and he looked like he was going to faint.

859
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: The people have a very certain look to them when

860
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 2: they're about to just like go down right I've seen

861
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: it a lot of times. You've seen it with me.

862
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: This guy's like white as a ghost.

863
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at him and I'm kind of and

864
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 1: and at this point, I don't usually see it from

865
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: medical students or even medical because I don't know if

866
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: he was a medical student or resident. But he was

867
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: like like towards the end of stuff that he was doing.

868
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 1: So usually when you see people have that reaction, it's

869
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: somebody that's seeing this stuff for the first time. And

870
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 1: you don't expect to see that in people who are.

871
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 2: Through their medical school and.

872
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: Through their residency, because obviously they've seen a lot of it.

873
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: And I said, like, what's going on, and he's just like,

874
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: this is just it's just a lot.

875
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 2: It's a lot.

876
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, is this your first autopsy

877
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,479
Speaker 1: and he's like he's like, yeah, well I've never seen

878
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: a dead body before, so it's just a lot for

879
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: me to handle. And I was like what And he

880
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: said he went to medical school school during COVID and

881
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: they just didn't have gross anatomy lab because it was

882
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: shut down because of COVID, right, And I'm just like, so,

883
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,959
Speaker 1: you went through all of medical school and you didn't

884
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: dissect a body. And he was like no, and my

885
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: mind is like blown. I'm like you, you're like a

886
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: fake doctor. You can't even be a doctor right now.

887
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: How could you do that without even it's like it

888
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: just should be like against the wall or something.

889
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: You know. To me, that's something you can't really get over.

890
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 2: As a person that gets really squeamish with stuff like that,

891
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: I think like it would be really hard for me

892
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 2: to get over something like that, like even with a

893
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: bunch of exposure therapy and everything. And to think this

894
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: person that's been in bed school for ten years and.

895
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: No, they're not in med school for ten years by

896
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: any stretch of the imagination, but they're in med school

897
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: for four years and he was towards the end of

898
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: it or a resident already.

899
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: So regardless, like, if.

900
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: You're going to be graduating and you're going to be

901
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 1: a doctor that's taking care of patients, like you can't

902
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 1: have that thing.

903
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: You just can't. It's literally impossible. I'm saying, there you

904
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: getting over it, Yeah, but I don't want to say

905
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 2: that because there are people there is getting over it.

906
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: I think that the first.

907
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: Time that you see a dead body in your entire life,

908
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: because you have to think, like medical students are young kids.

909
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes they're like in their early twenties, right, they might

910
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: not even have been to a funeral before. This is

911
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: literally the first time they're seeing a dead person, to

912
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: see an autopsy, as that first experience is, it is

913
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: a lot because it's so gruesome and it's just a

914
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: lot to process.

915
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 2: I've seen lots.

916
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: Of people that kind of are like weird, including I

917
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: even think including myself, Like I feel like I played

918
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: it off kind of cool, but the very first time

919
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 1: I saw it, I was just like, how is everyone

920
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: in this room just totally cool that there's like a

921
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: dead person gutted laying here right now and everybody's like

922
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: talking about what they're going to eat for lunch. Like

923
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: it's a very weird thing to experience and get used to.

924
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: And I think people can. I don't think people like

925
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 1: you can, but there are people that just are shocked

926
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: initially just because of what it is. But that's why

927
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: I think that it's it's so ridiculous that that's part

928
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: of the whole point of the cadaver situation, is that

929
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: you could just get comfortable around a dead body because

930
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: if you're a physician. In most fields, you're going to

931
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 1: come across that at some point or definitely during your training.

932
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 1: Even if you're a dermatologist, you're going to see things

933
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: that are disturbing, you know, like any dimatologists.

934
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: I think see some of the most deserving things. But

935
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: I think even when you're touring a school and you're

936
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 2: considering it, they should expose you to that if it's

937
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 2: part of the major you're looking to go to. Because

938
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: I remember when I was sixteen and we went to

939
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 2: University of the Science Is to look at the pharmacy program,

940
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 2: and I was really into the chemistry component of it.

941
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: And as soon as they brought us in that little

942
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: room and they're like, this is where we practice giving injections,

943
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm good, I'm out. I don't want

944
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 2: to do this, which is absolutely ridiculous, but I know

945
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: this about myself, and then I didn't waste all this

946
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: money going to school for something that I can't get over.

947
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, and it's crazy that.

948
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: We had that with one of the girls in my

949
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: PA class too, honestly, that she just like whatever. Anyway,

950
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: the whole point is, though they have all I know

951
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: that they have like all this awesome technology they have,

952
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: like three D visualization and augmented reality and all that

953
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, but it's just not ever going to

954
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: be the same as sticking your hands in a body

955
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: and just seeing. One of the things with cadavers is

956
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: you could have five in front of you and all

957
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: other anatomy looks kind of different because of anatomic variation,

958
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: and it's just not something you're going to get from

959
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: a computer thing. You're not going to be able to

960
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: touch and feel what it feels like. And like I understand,

961
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: some fields of medicine are a little bit more like

962
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: family medicine or something like that, that you're not really like,

963
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: you're not doing surgery, You're not going to have your

964
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: hands inside of somebody like that, especially pathology or dermatology

965
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: like things that you're going to actually need to like

966
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: touch and feel to see what.

967
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: Things are like.

968
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,439
Speaker 1: But I still think that it's I think that it's

969
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: just a terrible idea because ultimately every one of these

970
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 1: people that are graduating are going to have to work

971
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 1: on a real person and that's really the only way

972
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: you're going to be able to do it and to

973
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: see a lot of it. I've already been kind of

974
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: against how much work they've been taking off of some

975
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: of the residents in pathology, especially because just the you

976
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: just get better the more you see. It's just like

977
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: Bryce Harper gets better at baseball because he plays. He

978
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: practices and practices and practices. It's just like it's the

979
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: same as acting with medicine. You just get better the

980
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: more that you see. And the only way that you're

981
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 1: going to see like real life is because like these

982
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: programs are just like AI. They're not always right, you

983
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: know what I mean, They are not always giving you

984
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: what you would see, and it just it just is

985
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: terrible for your critical thinking skills and all that. So,

986
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: I mean, there's concerns with the kidavers, and I understand

987
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: that because because of the shadiness that goes along with

988
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: that whole entire field, and I guess that's why they're

989
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: going away from it more. I don't know if it's

990
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: more because of that or because of just the money

991
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: that it costs for it. I mean, you have to

992
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: have special labs for cadavers, you have to have employees

993
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: that take care of the cadavers, because you can't they'll

994
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,959
Speaker 1: dry out and they'll get all gross and moldy and stuff,

995
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: so there has to be people that know how to

996
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: take care of them. And you know, it's not very

997
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: regulated a lot like from when you donate your body

998
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: to science, it's pretty regulated, but then once people get

999
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: the body, it's not as regulated. And I think our

1000
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: body was like five thousand dollars for PA school and

1001
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: we shared it and it was awesome. It's just like

1002
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: it's just something I don't know. I personally think there's

1003
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: just something that you have to do. But whatever, I

1004
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: guess that will be. We'll see what happens with that.

1005
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 2: All right, Let's move on to Questions of the Day.

1006
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 2: Every Friday at the at mother nos Death Instagram account,

1007
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: you guys could head over to our story and ask

1008
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: us whatever you want. First. On a recent episode, you

1009
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 2: said that you believe vitamins and supplements are a scam.

1010
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 2: What do you think about all the recommended vitamin for

1011
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 2: bariatric surgery patients? Well, I don't know if I act

1012
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 2: like if I think that they're a scam one hundred percent,

1013
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 2: like I think they definitely have a place for some people.

1014
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: And I told you guys, like my little one has

1015
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: had to get some treatment for she had to get

1016
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 2: some infusion for her bone issue, and the first time

1017
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 2: she got it done, she was supposed to do so

1018
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 2: she's supposed to take thumb's which would be like a

1019
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 2: calcium supplement for a couple of weeks before she gets

1020
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 2: it done. And here I was giving them to her

1021
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 2: every day and she was hiding them, and I found

1022
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 2: like a pile of film in her room after she

1023
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: got it done. But when she got the infusion of

1024
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 2: this medication, she was in so much pain in her

1025
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 2: bones and I couldn't figure out why. And the doctor

1026
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 2: was like, well, did she take to calcium And I said, yeah,

1027
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 2: she did, I don't know, But then I found all

1028
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 2: of them that she didn't take. So the second time around,

1029
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, obviously I have to sit here

1030
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 2: and like watch her chew every one of these and

1031
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 2: she did, and then when she got the treatment, it

1032
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 2: was like it was like she didn't have any issues

1033
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 2: at all. So like that calcium supplement worked for her

1034
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: in that specific instance. And I just think a lot

1035
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 2: of times, like when you're watching TikTok or Instagram or

1036
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 2: something and all these people are like, oh, you have

1037
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: to take magnesium for this and you have to take

1038
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 2: like what are some examples Because of my like perimanopausal symptoms,

1039
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 2: there was like all these supplements I took and stuff,

1040
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: and I was just kind of like, Okay, this didn't

1041
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: do anything. I took them for months and like I

1042
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: stopped taking them, and it like a lot of it's

1043
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: a scam, honestly. But if your doctor is recommending that

1044
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 2: you take them prior to bariatric surgery, I think you

1045
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 2: should because usually prior to getting that surgery, you go

1046
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 2: on a fasting type diet that might leave you a

1047
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 2: little bit your nutrients a little bit lower than they

1048
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: would be if you were eating regular food, and they

1049
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: want to make sure that your your vitamins and are

1050
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 2: healthy when they do the surgery. So I think they

1051
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: definitely have a purpose, But you know, I just think

1052
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: that sometimes it's a scam. All of these companies that

1053
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 2: sell My husband, honestly, he's famous for it. He's like

1054
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 2: taken this Gommy and this gummy, and I'm just like

1055
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 2: I should just go in the bathroom right down and

1056
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 2: count how much money he spends a month on some

1057
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 2: of these things, like this is this beat one, and

1058
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 2: this is this this greens one, and all this, and

1059
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 2: I'm just kind of like, is this really doing anything

1060
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: for you? I don't really know. I'm surprised Lubert didn't

1061
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: want to take the thumbs because of all things you

1062
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 2: could take, they taste kind of like candy, so so

1063
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 2: she wasn't. I don't I agree.

1064
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: I think that they taste like sweet tarts kind of

1065
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: or something. They're just like one of those kinds of candies.

1066
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: So she figured out I bought her like after that,

1067
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,919
Speaker 1: like all the different flavors, and then she fingured out

1068
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: that she liked the Pina colada ones.

1069
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 2: So now like she takes them without a problem.

1070
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: It just was I don't even know if she was

1071
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: not taking it. I feel like she was just taking

1072
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: it to be like I'm not taking it because you

1073
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: said I should or whatever. But but then she learned

1074
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: her lesson. Oh she learned her lesson. And I'm like

1075
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: all like naive because I think, oh, I've been doing

1076
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 1: the right thing the whole time.

1077
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 2: I mean, she was nine.

1078
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe she's kind of at the younger

1079
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: age to like trust that she was doing it. I

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Speaker 1: just I didn't even think a kid would ever argue

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Speaker 1: about taking Tom's honestly.

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Speaker 2: All right. Next, tips for getting accepted into a competitive

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Speaker 2: PA program.

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Speaker 1: I think that you have to have some kind of

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Speaker 1: experience usually that sticks out. Of course, it's really hard

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Speaker 1: right now, Like if you walk in and you're like, oh, well, hi,

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Speaker 1: I volunteered at the Medical Examiner's office for a summer, like,

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Speaker 1: obviously that's going to put you ahead.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know if.

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Speaker 1: You could do that stuff anymore, because I'm hearing more

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Speaker 1: and more that people aren't letting people in turn like that.

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Speaker 1: So but I'm sure there's some places that still do that.

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Speaker 1: Just any kind of experience you can get that makes

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Speaker 1: them know that you kind of understand what the field

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Speaker 1: is and you know for sure you want to do

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Speaker 1: this and you're ready to do this.

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Speaker 2: That's all I could say. All right. The last one's

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Speaker 2: for me. Was there ever a time growing up where

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Speaker 2: you didn't want to look or style like your mom?

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Speaker 1: Wasn't.

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Speaker 2: I just talking to the kids about this in the

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Speaker 2: car because they said something about a haircut, and I said,

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Speaker 2: at least you didn't have to have matching haircuts with mommy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but that's when you were like five, so we used

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Speaker 2: to have matching haircuts. When I was a little kid,

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Speaker 2: which was crazy because it was like the late nineties,

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Speaker 2: early two thousands, So it was either like a pixie

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Speaker 2: cut or that really short, like flared out what would

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Speaker 2: you even call that? Look? They're really short but flared

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Speaker 2: out at the bottom.

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Speaker 1: Oh, just like it's kind of like retro, like a

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Speaker 1: flip like bob, Like a bob that's flipped out.

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Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, but it was like really short. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know what it's called anyway. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think we have similar styles naturally, but also very different.

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Speaker 2: You typically like to lean into like the lacy, more

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Speaker 2: victorian lady look, and I wear like more grandma crochet

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Speaker 2: knit type of things. I wear a lot of different colors.

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Speaker 2: You definitely don't. You have a very specific color palette.

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Speaker 2: I try to stick to the color palette and that's

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Speaker 2: the background for the show, But in everyday life, I

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Speaker 2: wear oranges, green, green, and ore, the ugliest colors ever.

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Speaker 1: For you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's fun.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because the kids, like obviously, when you have kids,

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Speaker 1: you dress your kids how you how you what you like.

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Speaker 1: So I always dress the kids in like like when

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Speaker 1: they were younger, like skinny jeans and Doc Martins and

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Speaker 1: T shirt.

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Speaker 2: You know, stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: And as they're getting older, like I don't ever put

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Speaker 1: my opinion as far as that goes too strong on

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Speaker 1: because I hate the way that they dress now.

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Speaker 2: It's just they're just.

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Speaker 1: Like very trendy with the ugs and the crocs and

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Speaker 1: the this, and you know, like they always have this

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Speaker 1: like certain style stuff that I'm kind of like, okay, whatever,

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Speaker 1: and it's not one hundred percent what I would choose

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Speaker 1: as being like cool, but like what what one thing

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Speaker 1: that really bummed me out was when like Lillian always

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Speaker 1: had the coolest hair ever. She had like that like

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Speaker 1: side the side shaved on her head and the long hair,

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Speaker 1: and she has really good hair. Both my kids actually

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Speaker 1: have really good hair. Not Maria, well, no, I Maria has. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she got my heart.

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Speaker 2: My hair's good now because I figured out like the

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Speaker 2: perfect shampoo product thing with the bright tool. But before

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Speaker 2: it was like crazy you were You're just like blessed

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Speaker 2: with my terrible hair.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, yeah, so Lilian, uh, Lilian recently, like I

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Speaker 1: guess it was last year or two years ago, decided

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Speaker 1: that she was going to start growing the shaved side

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Speaker 1: out and I was just like no, Like I was

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Speaker 1: really just like didn't want her to do it. And

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Speaker 1: I was like, everybody thinks your hair is so cute,

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Speaker 1: and I love your hair and it's so cute. But

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Speaker 1: she was just like, yeah, but I want I want

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Speaker 1: something different. So now it's just like basic whatever.

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Speaker 2: She likes it.

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Speaker 1: So I'm kind of like, Okay, I try to help

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Speaker 1: her do it and stuff, but a part of me

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Speaker 1: died that day.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're ridiculous. No, I mean I don't

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Speaker 2: know it today. It's like, you know, I try to

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Speaker 2: be on brand when we're doing work related events with

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Speaker 2: the whole vibe we go with. But I my style

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Speaker 2: is not too far off from hers. It's just a

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Speaker 2: little different color wise really, And like I wear more jeans,

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Speaker 2: like regular jeans, not black jeans, and you and I

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Speaker 2: wear jellies of what jellies? Yeah, I know you have

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00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 2: that cute pair of jellies I have. I have.

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Speaker 1: I have one pair of blue jeans and when I

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Speaker 1: wear them, like I wore them last week and I

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Speaker 1: just was like, oh, I feel gross in these.

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Speaker 2: I have to take them off. Yeah, Like you're crazy

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Speaker 2: about that, Like you'll get jeans that don't have a

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Speaker 2: black or gold button though of silver, and you're like,

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Speaker 2: I can't wear these, which is ridiculous. I just don't care.

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Speaker 2: I'm like a crazy person. What can I say? Whatever?

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Speaker 1: As a reminder, my training is as a pathologists assistant.

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Speaker 1: I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy

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Speaker 1: and pathology education. I am not a doctor and I

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