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Speaker 3: Welcome hang, Out Just baseball show For, Thursday june. Nineteenth

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Speaker 3: and we got word that The rays could be in

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Speaker 3: rounda balloting for THE Mlb All Star game back, in

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Speaker 3: so we'll talk about what's, right what's wrong, there and

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Speaker 3: where we may feel corrections are. Needed Arm road a

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Speaker 3: tail end as. Well, again Just Baseball show For, Thursday june.

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Speaker 3: Nineteenth I'm jackie's arum as always were brought to you

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Speaker 3: of The Red sox lineup today On? Wednesday it was pretty?

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Speaker 3: Good huh?

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Speaker 2: Huh it. Was it was an interesting. ONE i think

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Speaker 2: The Christian campbell experiment in center field is is, fascinating

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Speaker 2: BUT i guess they got to keep trying to put

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Speaker 2: him in different, spots. DON'T i don't really know how

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Speaker 2: he's supposed to get better defensively at second base if

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Speaker 2: you then throw him into center a little bit, too

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Speaker 2: where he's never actually going to play for you because

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Speaker 2: you Have Saddan, Rafaela Jared. Duran that's a whole, conversation but,

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Speaker 2: yeah there's it was. FUNNY i was thinking about just

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Speaker 2: talking about the fact that either The Red sox HAVE

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Speaker 2: i think the loudest employees ever that are just or

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Speaker 2: or a lot of people have a lot of. SOURCES

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Speaker 2: i don't. Know it's amazing how many people all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden have scoops and insight and information on what's going.

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Speaker 2: On in The Red sox. ORGANIZATION i know that's not

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Speaker 2: where we were planning to go unto, this but you

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Speaker 2: just spark that thought in my. Mind like there's been

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Speaker 2: some really good, REPORTING i Know June lee like really

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Speaker 2: broke it all. Down but now it seems like everybody's

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Speaker 2: got a source in The Red sox, organization which either

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Speaker 2: tells me people are just grabbing low hanging fruit and

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Speaker 2: you can kind of just say, anything or or you

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Speaker 2: got a lot of disgruntle people in that. ORGANIZATION i

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Speaker 2: think it's a little, both one hundred.

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Speaker 3: Percent so the question is how many moles do you

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Speaker 3: Up and like there were some reports That Craig breslo vehemently,

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Speaker 3: denied and obviously it's easy to, deny but how much

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Speaker 3: That how many people are being fed wrong? Information ALL

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Speaker 3: i know right now is that The Red sox are

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Speaker 3: them around the league and said you're a joke right.

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Speaker 3: Now and that may pass in two, weeks BUT i

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Speaker 2: Centerpiece so it's FUNNY i thought, That AND i don't

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Speaker 2: want to make this a Whole dever thing. Again i'm

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Speaker 2: just fascinated by the optics because we knew it would

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Speaker 3: But like this is opening every can of.

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Speaker 2: WORMS i did not think it would open this can of,

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Speaker 2: it would open some you, know we get some reporting

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Speaker 2: ON i figured the situation Between devers and the. Team

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Speaker 2: you knew the team was, gonna you, know probably share

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Speaker 2: some things to make it look better. Optically you knew,

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Speaker 2: devers may may fire. Back BUT i didn't think it

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Speaker 2: would result in. THIS i think just opening up of

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Speaker 2: all of THESE i, mean how is this now turned

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Speaker 2: into the fact that we're talking about the interview process

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Speaker 2: for The Red sox and them using AN ai, Bot,

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Speaker 2: LIKE i don't, KNOW i Think Rafael dever's trade devolve

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Speaker 2: muting themselves on On zoom and Calling Craig breslo a, stiff,

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Speaker 2: like it's crazy that it really. Sparked it was like

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Speaker 2: there was a puddle of gasoline that we didn't even

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Speaker 2: a few drops of, gasoline and now that That dever's

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Speaker 2: trade is the spark that is now ignited a massive

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Speaker 3: Orc it's like the gasoline fight In. Zoolander did you

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Speaker 2: Zuelander oh way, back but, YES i actually do remember

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Speaker 3: About the gasoline fight In zoolander is one of the

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Speaker 3: best scenes in cinematic, history and it was sad but very,

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Speaker 3: funny not really. Sad zoolander is funny and it's making

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Speaker 3: fun of male. Supermodels but that's a better analogy than.

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Speaker 3: MINE i was going to. Say this feels like an

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Speaker 3: improv show where you just have people saying yes and,

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Speaker 3: oh by the, way they USE ai for their interview, process, like,

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Speaker 3: oh by the, way this is what. Happens it feels

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Speaker 3: like every single opportunity someone has to dunk on a

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Speaker 3: specific facet of The Red sox, organization they'll do, it

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Speaker 3: and then they'll pivot to another facet of the. Organization

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Speaker 2: Well and THAT'S i think that was What June lee's point.

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Speaker 2: this like he was kind of liking it. To when you,

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Speaker 2: know The White house is in. Disarray when more information

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Speaker 2: think that he basically and that's the interesting part about that,

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Speaker 2: story AND i think OBVIOUSLY i trust his. Reporting so

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Speaker 2: cool to see him back on the. Fold it also

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Speaker 2: is fascinating, though just how many other media members out

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Speaker 2: am still so upset that The netflix documentary came a

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Speaker 2: year too. Early they may have banged that thing though

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Speaker 2: they might have just said they might have shut down

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Speaker 3: Year, probably although Following Tristan cassis within his, rehab just

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Speaker 3: watching and reading all this would be. Hilarious it's like

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Speaker 3: he pops Open twitter on his phone one morning when

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Speaker 2: Down. HUH i really wish they did it this.

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Speaker 3: Year but it's all, right it's, okay staying in the.

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Speaker 3: DIVISION i do want to talk about this possible sale

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Speaker 3: of The Tampa Bay rays right. Now The rays have

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Speaker 3: been under fire for the last couple of. Years and, listen,

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Speaker 3: LIKE i think there are twenty fan bases In Major

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Speaker 3: League baseball that want their owner to sell the. TEAM

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Speaker 3: i don't Think i'm being egregious WHEN i say. THAT

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Speaker 3: i don't Think i'm. OVERESTIMATING i honestly think unless you

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Speaker 3: are The, DODGERS i, mean, dude like The yankees want

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Speaker 3: how to. SELL i just Want John henry to. Sell it's,

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable like it's crazy to watch how many fan bases

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Speaker 3: kind of had some validity to that Is tampa just

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Speaker 3: were a lot of corners cut in this whole, process

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Speaker 3: reparations to The Tropic canafield roof were kind of a

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Speaker 2: SELL i don't think that would be shocking BECAUSE.

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Speaker 3: I would assume him And Bob nutting And pittsburgh those

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Speaker 2: Because because they've Enabled, fisher that's very. Clear and you,

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Speaker 2: reason or an explanation why but removing the reverse boycott

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Speaker 2: enabling THAT i think has been happened that has happened

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Speaker 2: Sides they look at them cutting their insurance premium down

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Speaker 2: a cheaper premium right before hurricane. Season the roof gets

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Speaker 2: able to fix the roof and. Renovate, like that's just

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Speaker 2: that's Not. Stu but then On stue's, side he's been

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Speaker 2: just kind of need somebody to jump in here and

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Speaker 2: SAY i don't, Care LIKE i understand it's going to

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Speaker 2: take money to turn this franchise. Around AND i know

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Speaker 2: just watched My Florida panthers win their second Straight Stanley

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Speaker 2: million The Forida. Panthers that's now worth one point five plus.

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Speaker 2: Billion it can be. Done and that's a team that

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Speaker 2: plays In sunrise by The Sawgrass. Mall SO i don't

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Speaker 2: want to hear about location in city and whatever Like

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Speaker 2: Tampa bay Or Saint. Peter that larger area can be

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Speaker 2: successful if you actually build a proper. Infrastructure AND i

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Speaker 2: think the league is probably running tired of What Stu

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Speaker 2: something that was like holy. Shit they finally met in the.

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Speaker 2: Middle they finally made it. Happen AND i think it

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Speaker 2: and of, course with the storm and, everything it did

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Speaker 2: to get that deal, done it shouldn't complicate it that much,

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Speaker 2: More and to, me it was just a perfect opportunity

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Speaker 2: increase of cost of ten fifteen. Percent we can't. Agree,

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Speaker 2: now we're not going to agree on who's going to

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Speaker 2: me that's two parties that were not fully invested. In

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Speaker 2: at the end of the, day it's on the team

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Speaker 2: to push it across the finish, line And stusteinberg just

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Speaker 2: doesn't SEEM i think that desperate or eager to push

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Speaker 2: of sit and collect his is revenue sharing money and

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Speaker 2: hope that, they you, know have a special, year which they've,

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Speaker 2: had you, know enough times for him to make enough.

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Speaker 2: Money that's the.

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Speaker 3: Thing like they have and they have been since twenty

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Speaker 3: ten one of the best teams In Major League baseball by.

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Speaker 3: Record so half the, BATTLE i actually, think like sixty

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Speaker 3: seventy percent of the battle is building a. Winner you

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Speaker 3: if you have a, winner you think people will. Come

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Speaker 3: But tampa was in a unique situation where they're playing

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Speaker 3: forty five minutes at across a bridge from their market

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Speaker 3: In Saint, pete and The trap is not a place

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Speaker 3: that's going to pull a bunch of. People LIKE i

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Speaker 3: haven't been, Before i've heard from enough people that it

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Speaker 3: is not a nice ballpark at. All so that's one

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Speaker 3: of the few examples Where, okay you check the box

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Speaker 3: of having a competitive. Team they are always competitive because

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Speaker 3: he hired the right guy In Andrew, friedman who then

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Speaker 3: hired the right guy In Eric neander and Had Peter

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Speaker 3: have been very good In Tampa Heim bloom as, Well

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Speaker 3: or at least a team that is going to be

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Speaker 3: above five hundred every single. Year so the other part

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Speaker 3: of that is you got to make sure that your

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Speaker 3: place is a place that people want to come. To

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Speaker 3: and then that fell by the, wayside Like Stu sternberg

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Speaker 3: just didn't do. That The rays never did. That with

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Speaker 3: The trap being In Saint pete and being the ballpark

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Speaker 3: be improved for a long. Time it hasn't Been you

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Speaker 3: run into a natural, disaster which, sucks like flat out,

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Speaker 3: stinks but now like that almost creates cold, feet and

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Speaker 3: the insurance premium side of that just. Sucks and there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of crappy factors that are compounding right, now

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Speaker 3: and it's probably time for New blood to be in

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Speaker 3: charge of the.

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Speaker 2: Right it should have never got there because it took

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Speaker 2: way too, long and then a deal that is so

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Speaker 2: fragilely agreed upon that something can come across and just

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Speaker 2: wipe it all, out and we're back to square, one

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Speaker 2: and actually behind square one because now the trap isn't even.

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Speaker 2: Operable right like, that that that part was was always

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Speaker 2: going to be an, issue Right they weren't never going

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Speaker 2: to fix the trop in, time and they'd be playing

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Speaker 2: it at a random stadium right. Now but they could

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Speaker 2: have been underway on a new one and at least

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Speaker 2: you had a solution in. Sight right, now they're in

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Speaker 2: this weird middle ground where it's, like do you even

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Speaker 2: bother trying to fix this thing and trying to renovate the,

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Speaker 2: hey where are we going to move the. STADIUM i

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Speaker 2: think it's ridiculous to relocate the. TEAM i Think tampa

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Speaker 2: is where that team should, be and we've seen another hockey.

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Speaker 2: Parallel look at what The Tampa Bay lightning have done and.

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Speaker 2: DOWNTOWN i, mean that's one of the most well supported

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Speaker 2: teams in all sports if you look at just the

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Speaker 2: way that they fill their. Arena success was a big

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Speaker 2: part of, that BUT i think also investing not only

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Speaker 2: that is the, stadium the fan, experience, accessibility involvement in the.

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Speaker 2: COMMUNITY i don't Think Stu sternberg did any of that,

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Speaker 2: right AND i think that's clear in the, STADIUM i.

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Speaker 2: DON'T i think it's clear also with the lack of

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Speaker 2: engagement with the community as. Well but it's also hard

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Speaker 2: to do that when the stadium is removed a little

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Speaker 2: bit from the. Community so there's a lot of aspects

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Speaker 2: think it takes a new owner who's gonna have, Urgency

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Speaker 2: who's gonna when you have a team that you didn't

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Speaker 2: have to pay a billion plus dollars for in the

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Speaker 2: last few, years and you're not pressed to turn turn

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Speaker 2: this thing around and actually make it into something much more. Significant,

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Speaker 2: Again sternberg can just rest on his, laurels take that

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Speaker 2: revenue sharing money and know that every couple of years

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Speaker 2: they're going to make the playoffs and we'll make a

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Speaker 2: little bit of extra. Money it's going to take somebody

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Speaker 2: that really wants to push this franchise to the next.

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Speaker 2: Level and if The Florida panthers can get to WHERE

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Speaker 2: i was going to games on Opening day for with

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Speaker 2: five thousand people, there AND i really thought that team

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Speaker 2: was gonna get relocated to where they're. At, now you've

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Speaker 2: already got the front office. Infrastructure that's the. Thing it's

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Speaker 2: not like the organization. Stinks you just need to figure

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Speaker 2: out the other side of. It AND i think the

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Speaker 2: other side of it is way, EASIER i really. DO

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Speaker 2: i think that just requires financial investment a lot more

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Speaker 2: than you can't just buy A World. Series that's a lot.

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Speaker 2: Harder AND i know The rays haven't won one, yet

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Speaker 2: but you can't even just, buy forget a perennial. Contender

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Speaker 2: but as fans start to come in with the infrastructure

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Speaker 2: that they, have they can actually invest in the product

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Speaker 2: on the field as. WELL a little bit more instead,

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Speaker 2: of you, know just continuing to work within the.

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Speaker 3: Margins and at the end of the, day this is

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Speaker 3: a crazy return For Stu. Sternberg he purchased The rays

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Speaker 3: for two hundred million dollars back in two thousand and,

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Speaker 3: four and this possible ownership group led By Patrick zelupski

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Speaker 3: is his. Name it's a Group Patrick, Slopski Bill, Cosgrove Ken,

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Speaker 3: babby who actually owns The Jacksonville Jumbo, shrimp and then

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Speaker 3: other Prominent Tampa bay. Investors this is all reported By.

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Speaker 3: Sportico they are in advance discussions With Stu sternberg to

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Speaker 3: acquire The Tampa Bay rays for one point seven billion

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Speaker 3: dollars two hundred million in two thousand and four one

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Speaker 3: point seven billion in twenty twenty. Five so that tells

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Speaker 3: me if they're buying for one point seven they're going

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Speaker 3: to be pretty invested in making Sure Tampa Saint pete

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Speaker 3: is going to be a hub for baseball moving. FORWARD

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Speaker 3: i hope this is not An orlando. Thing i've read

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Speaker 3: too much about this Weird orlando. Thing horrible.

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Speaker 2: IDEA i as A, floridian horrible, idea.

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Speaker 3: Dude like that in a. Place bad. Idea, YEAH i,

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Speaker 3: mean they can pull in THE, Nba but Like orlando

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Speaker 3: in the, SUMMER i think we're. OKAY i do feel

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Speaker 3: really confident That Tampa Saint pete is going to work

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Speaker 3: if this ownership group does take hold of The.

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Speaker 2: Rays it's a great city and the MORE i, MEAN i,

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Speaker 2: know you just went out there right on the. Road,

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Speaker 2: yeah it's a cool.

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Speaker 3: PLACE i really liked.

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Speaker 2: IT i really like it out, there AND i do

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Speaker 2: think there's a lot of potential there and it's better

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Speaker 2: for baseball if The rays can you, know be somewhat

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Speaker 2: of a lightning adjacent franchise where of course you're looking

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Speaker 2: at a situation where there's just more of those smaller

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Speaker 2: market teams quote unquote are drawing more than you. Expect

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Speaker 2: So i'm happy that it's not a real location. Thing

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Speaker 2: it seems like in the short, term and hopefully this

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Speaker 2: new ownership group that's gonna be way more invested both

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Speaker 2: figuratively and, financially can potentially push this team where it

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Speaker 2: needs to be.

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Speaker 3: Pushed we're going to bounce around The All star first

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Speaker 3: he's nearly tripling Up Alejandro. Kirk but It's raleigh, One kirk,

429
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 3: Two Dylan dingler The tigers, three and The logan o'happy

430
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 3: is just at our two hundred thousand at, four With

431
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:30,880
Speaker 3: Austin wells finishing out the top. FIVE i appreciate where we're.

432
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 3: AT i would Say Carlos narvaya's being at. Nine on

433
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 3: the first ballot is a little, wild BUT i understand

434
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 3: the Red sox not flooding the ballot box right. Now

435
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 3: raleigh And, Kirk i'd be pretty happy with being the

436
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 3: catching tandem for The American.

437
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 2: League, YEAH i mean Between Kirk kirk JUST i think

438
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 2: has been a guy THAT i, mean which is, nuts

439
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 2: because if you look at What narvaias has, DONE i

440
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 2: think you could argue he's actually been, better which is.

441
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 2: Nuts BUT i Mean kirk the performance this year has

442
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 2: just been so, impressive and the fact that he's only

443
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: punching ten percent of the time while hitting three to

444
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 2: TEN i think is pretty. Remarkable SO i mean the

445
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 2: Cal rally side of, things it's just ridiculous how far

446
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 2: ahead he. Is do you know what the next most

447
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 2: homers is for a? Catcher Yet rally has twenty. Seven

448
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 2: raley as twenty. SEVEN i bet the next most IS

449
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 2: i Know Taylor ward is top ten in baseball with.

450
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 2: EIGHTEEN i bet the next most is fifteen Fourteen Logan

451
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 2: O hoppy And Hunter. Goodman, wow so he has almost

452
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 2: doubled up the next highest home run total at the.

453
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 2: Position AND i know that there's more to the position

454
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,199
Speaker 2: than home. Runs BUT i don't need to sell you

455
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 2: on and.

456
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 3: He does more at that, position Right, GLOVER.

457
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 2: I don't have to sell you on. That and on

458
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 2: top of, that he's playing and excuse, me he's playing

459
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 2: In seattle where it's not like the ball flies. There

460
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 2: it's not like it's a very easy place to hit

461
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,439
Speaker 2: relative to some other. Areas, SO i, mean this is

462
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 2: the BIGGEST i think gap at a position besides, moment

463
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,479
Speaker 2: we'll Talk, Aaron BUT i, MEAN i don't know if

464
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 2: there's a bigger runaway than Cal.

465
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 3: Rally a, CATCHER i don't think, so, Uh AND i

466
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 3: Like kirk at second first. Base in The American, League

467
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,959
Speaker 3: Paul goldschmid is the leading vote. Getter Vladimir Guerrero junior

468
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 3: just behind him in third right now Is Jonathan ronda

469
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 3: In Tampa bay and Then Spencer torkelsen is at. Four

470
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 3: Christian walker is in the five spot right now For.

471
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 3: Houston these are just big markets kind of taking hold

472
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 3: and shout Out tigers fans for really getting out there

473
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 3: and pushing their. Guys Dylan dingler at, Three tork at

474
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 3: four is. Crazy Noh ronda in The All Star game

475
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 3: would be. Criminal, yeah, guys.

476
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 2: This is a one sixty FOUR wrc PLUS i, mean.

477
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 3: And it leads al first baseman In war.

478
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 2: Two this is, peak not not, wrong just, early but

479
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: three twenty, three four, fourteen four ninety three slash and

480
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 2: the guy just hits and everybody who loved him because

481
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 2: you knew that the short porch and right with basically

482
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 2: having a scan Of Yankee stadium being your home ballpark

483
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 2: In tampa would. Help but that's not really what's helping

484
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 2: him this. Year he has eight, homers he's producing on

485
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 2: hard hit balls to all, fields to the fact that

486
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: he's actually just piling up singles and. Doubles he's in

487
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 2: three twenty, three so that part of it has been so.

488
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 2: IMPRESSIVE i will, say, THOUGH i think we're about to

489
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 2: see a little bit of a of A laddie heater

490
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 2: and you, know The toronto, fans the whole, country well

491
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: we'll start to show. Out BUT i do think it

492
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 2: should Be Jonathan ronda.

493
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 3: There, yeah anybody else like down the ballot that you

494
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 3: think needs more. VOTES i don't think. SO i think

495
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 3: it's pretty. Chalky, YEAH i.

496
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,719
Speaker 2: THINK i, MEAN i honestly Respect tork getting that that

497
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 2: love because he's got sixteen bombs in a stadium where

498
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 2: it's again very difficult to go. Deep but the rest,

499
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 2: NOW i think it's it's about right.

500
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 3: Cool second base as it stands right, now here's what

501
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 3: we're looking. At Labor torres is your leading vote get

502
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 3: at five hundred and thirty five. Thousand Jackson holiday is

503
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 3: number two at four forty, Nine jose l two f

504
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 3: right behind, him followed By Jazz chishom a good way,

505
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 3: down and Then Brandon lao Of Tampa bay is number.

506
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 3: Five Andre semenez And Willie castro are six and. Seven

507
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 3: this is a very bad position in The American. LEAGUE

508
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 3: i Guess Labor torres is the right. Pick he's second

509
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 3: among second basement in war only Behind Brandon. DONOVAN i don't,

510
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 3: know man like the top three in The American league

511
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 3: in war as it stands right now among second Basement Glabor,

512
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 3: Torres Brandon, lao And Daniel schneman In.

513
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 2: Cleveland, yeah this position is. Terrible we should almost CAN

514
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 2: i want a petition to just do the double shortstop.

515
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 3: THING i, Mean i'm listen because like we're not doing

516
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 3: the center field. Thing Like Andy pages would be An

517
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 3: all star if we were doing center. Field, Ye but

518
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 3: like we should. Do we should just put a short,

519
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 3: stop pospecion.

520
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: Two middle infielders and call it a. Day it's IT'S

521
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: i understand that in a lot of years some really

522
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: good second basement would get squeezed out in that in that,

523
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 2: event but, MAN i think if if the next if

524
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: the number two short stop doubles up on second base,

525
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 2: votes he should just put him over at second. Base

526
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 2: it's it's a brutal. Position, YEAH i THINK i Think

527
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: labor's got to be the. Guy he's walking more than

528
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: he's striking. OUT i think a lot of people had

529
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: some doubts about, myself included about how he would Perform Ink.

530
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: America and it's getting on base at the three seventy five,

531
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 2: Clips SO i think it. Could it could vary easily

532
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 2: and probably should Be Glaber torrez for.

533
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 3: Sure third base in The American. League as it stands right,

534
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 3: Now Jose ramirez nearly has a million votes right. Now

535
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 3: he's at nine hundred and seventy. Thousand Alex bregman is

536
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 3: second at just a four hundred, thousand so he's doubling

537
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 3: up the next. Guy Addison barger is third for The

538
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 3: Toronto Blue. Jays zach McKinstry is Fourth, East Soak paredes is,

539
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 3: fifth With Junior kamenero in. Sixth right, NOW i was

540
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 3: thinking maybe a little bit more parades, Love BUT i

541
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 3: do kind of like how this is shaking out at the.

542
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 3: MOMENT i, think, No Jay ram And bregman would be

543
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 3: a little. WEIRD i Think barger's got to be the

544
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 3: number one. Guy, yeah it has. To it has.

545
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: To that walkoff home run was cold, though that was

546
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 2: that was. Nasty, Yeah, SO i, Mean Jay ram is

547
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: the guy and he should always be the, guy AND

548
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 2: i love seeing him get the love he. Deserves But

549
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: parretti's meant it's a it's a one FORTY wrc plus

550
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: it's fifteen. Homers it's doing a half war like with

551
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: the with The bregman, INJURY i think you could make

552
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 2: a case For parrettes to get THE nod over, him

553
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 2: as crazy as that, sounds just because, like, hey he's

554
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 2: out there doing it and and there's a chance that

555
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 2: depending On bregman's return, TIME i, mean you might have

556
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 2: an extra twenty games From Estock. Perettis SO i think

557
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 2: that is an interesting part of. It but If bregman

558
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: comes back and keeps doing what he was. DOING i

559
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: think you can make the case for him, to you,

560
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: know get that other, spot that backup. Spot but for,

561
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 2: NOW i think if if you have like a twenty

562
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: game difference and total games, played you might have to

563
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 2: lean Towards Esch, PERETTIS i would.

564
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 3: Hope so when is it too early to truly victory

565
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 3: Lap on East Ipe paratus it's now?

566
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 2: Right, well, well people are going to, say, well, yeah

567
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 2: he got put back in a spot where he can swing,

568
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: it and.

569
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 3: Yeah guess, what he doesn't control the team that he's employed. By.

570
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah but people are gonna, say, well we were.

571
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: Right he didn't play well In.

572
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: Chicago that was a hell of a forty, games, man

573
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 3: or fifty, games whatever it. Was, Yeah Junior CAMENARO i

574
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 3: thought was going to catapult his way into this, conversation

575
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 3: but that kind of died off pretty. Quickly hell of.

576
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 3: It two weeks, Though this is gonna be The caminaro

577
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 3: experience where two weeks he's the best hitter in, baseball

578
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 3: two weeks he's making you go gray and pull your hair,

579
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 3: out and then two weeks after that he's gonna be

580
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 3: the best hitter in baseball.

581
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: Again, yeah he's going to be like that for a,

582
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: WHILE i, Think and it's just because it's there's so

583
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: many moving parts of the. Swing he's so powerful, though

584
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: AND i think that's why you're going to see him

585
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: have those hot. Streaks but, yeah you're ALSO i, think

586
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: going to see some of those those valleys as. Well

587
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: but in his last twenty three, games he's gonna know

588
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: ps over one thousand and nine, homers so he couldn't

589
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: mash his. Way but it's more of The. GENO i

590
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: think he's more of The Geno suarez experience at this

591
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: point than he, is you, know the more well Rounded.

592
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: SUGRIN i think we'll get. There remember he's twenty, one

593
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: but at this point he is kind of At Gino

594
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: suarez experience two ninety eight on base, percentage but he's

595
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,719
Speaker 2: got the seventeen. Bombs it's just he's just not quite there.

596
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: YET i WOULD i would make a case for LIKE.

597
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: Mikel garcia honestly right now with the defense and everything

598
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: that he's doing in the stolen. Bases but that, SAID

599
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: i think you're Seeing comonero getting closer and closer to

600
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: where a couple of years from now will probably be

601
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: that guy that's. Challenging maybe A Jose ramirez or something

602
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: like that for the third base.

603
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 3: Spot, yeah last position on the infield in The American,

604
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 3: league it's. Shortstop Jacob wilson is the leading vote. Getter

605
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 3: he's about fifty thousand votes clear Of Bobby Witt. Junior

606
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 3: as it stands right, Now Jeremy pania is, Third Boba schett,

607
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 3: Fourth Anthony volpi, Fifth Zach netto in the sixth. Spot

608
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 3: AND i keep looking, DOWN i See Gunner henderson For

609
00:29:55,400 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 3: baltimore at. Seventh that's, crazy, man right, Though this, year, dude.

610
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: They got it.

611
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 3: Right this year is the true separator Between gunner And Bobby.

612
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: Wit, yeah, YEAH i think. SO i, mean Because bobby

613
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 2: it's not just the offensive side of. Things you could, say, oh,

614
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: Well gunner's a little bit. Cold he started the year.

615
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: Hurt if they're even comparable, offensively and they pretty much,

616
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 2: Are they're they're both at like a one to TWENTY.

617
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: Wrc plus the defense is just so much better From Bobby,

618
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: witt and and the speed that how much it impacts the,

619
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: game it's just so much more significant. THAT i, mean

620
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 2: both have, been to their standards disappointing this, year, right

621
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 2: and but you see the difference of what speed and

622
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: defense can do from a war, perspective they're both a

623
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 2: little bit below what you want to see from them

624
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: in THE wrc plus department at one twenty and that

625
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 2: is a three to six war in seventy three games

626
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: For Bobby witt versus a one to seven war For

627
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: Gunner henderson in sixty five. Games SO i, AGREE i

628
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: think this shows you the margin for error for A

629
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: bobby what junior offensively is just so much. Wider but

630
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: so this is where it gets interesting for. ME i

631
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: THINK i don't, WANT i never Want All star voting

632
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: to just turn into a war, competition because that's, silly.

633
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 2: Right But Jeremy paania And Jacob wilson is really fascinating Because,

634
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: PAYNIA i think you're getting a little bit more defensive.

635
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 2: Value you're definitely getting some more value with the, legs

636
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: and he's playing out of his mind this. Year it's

637
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: been so cool to. See But Jacob wilson's hitting three,

638
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: Sixty he's getting on base at a four hundred, clip

639
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: and assuming he doesn't slow, DOWN i think you just

640
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: got to give the guy the nod because it's gonna

641
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: Be bobby at the, top, Probably i'd assume, Right but.

642
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 3: Would you say the voting breakdown was again it Was

643
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 3: Jacob wilson at the, top and then it Was bobby,

644
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 3: Two paya?

645
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: Three was it Even bobby Versus is It bobby Versus

646
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: wilson in your mind or is It wilson Versus penia

647
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: for the second?

648
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 3: SPOT i think It's bobby Versus wilson because What Jacob

649
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: wilson has DONE i thought it was impossible two years.

650
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 3: Ago he made This sprando baseball sexy again and everybody loves.

651
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: It right. NOW i saw you beat the street tweets

652
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 3: like everybody's obsessed with Watching Jacob wilson go about his

653
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 3: business because he plays the game like everybody Plays road

654
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 3: to the. Show, yeah and it's really fun to. Watch it's,

655
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 3: speed there's defense there at short but, man if you hit,

656
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: everything people are gonna latch onto. That this team's in

657
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: Freaking sacramento And Jacob wilson is Beating Bobby Witt junior

658
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 3: in An All star. Vote.

659
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, well AND i think you've touched on the most

660
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: important point here is like somebody that's doing something that

661
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: nobody else at the position is, doing and really nobody

662
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: else in baseball for the most part is doing hitting

663
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: over the three point fifty and AND i think doing

664
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: that while not being a, player that doesn't add value beyond, that,

665
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: Right like it's not just being all hit, tool, right

666
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: the fact that he's playing a good shortstop every single

667
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: day and sneaking out eight. Homers he's also not a slap.

668
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 2: Hitter he's slugging five. Hundred SO i. DO i do

669
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: Think Jacob wilson should be the leading boat getter. Here

670
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: and you, know we'll, see of course slide edge For

671
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: Bobby white because of. War but that's Where i'm kind

672
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: of putting that in the rear view because you've got

673
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: a sixty point difference IN, obp you've got an eighty

674
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: point difference in batting, average And Jacob wilson's out Slugging

675
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: Bobby Wit. Junior because he's hitting the ball so. CONSISTENTLY

676
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: i think it's got to Be Jacob. WILSON i love

677
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: that the fans are all over this. Shit. Man it's.

678
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: Great, Yeah AND i think honestly like it's it's a

679
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 3: little antiquated to look, at but at the end of the,

680
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 3: Day Jacob wilson's hitting over three. Fifty to your, POINT.

681
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: I don't think that's. Antiquated when it's when you're doing, THAT.

682
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 3: I think fans will latch onto. That and that's why

683
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: they latched onto it last year With Steven, kuan Like,

684
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: kwan another guy that provided value beyond never swinging and

685
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,479
Speaker 3: missing and, oh by the, way he never swung and

686
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 3: swung and, missed and you, know all of a sudden

687
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 3: he was An All, star you know WHAT i?

688
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: Mean, Yep SO i agree that's.

689
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 3: Interesting all, Right let's go to the outfield and the

690
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 3: D h spot in The American. League right, now the

691
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 3: outfit in The American, league, Obviously Aaron judge is leading

692
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 3: the way by a country. Mile he is the leading

693
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 3: vote getter with one point five seven million. Votes next

694
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 3: Is Riley green to The tigers at six hundred and

695
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 3: seventy five, thousand so he's nearly tripling up the next

696
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: highest vote getter in The American league. Outfield but It's Aaron,

697
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 3: Judge Riley, Green Mike trout that are the top three

698
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 3: vote getters right. Now trout's obviously just going to be

699
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 3: there because He's. Trout Stephen kwant is, Four Javier baiaz is,

700
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 3: Five Cody bellinger is. Six after, that you've Got Kerry,

701
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 3: Carpenter George, Springer Jay, Rodd Jaren, Duran Trent, Grisham Dalton,

702
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 3: Varshow Byron buxton a little buston arasure by having him

703
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 3: in the thirteenth spot that needs to correct. Itself Javier

704
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 3: bias unfortunately needs to be. Outside but, Yeah buxton needs

705
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 3: to be An All.

706
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: Star that's exactly WHERE i was gonna. Go this guy's

707
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: playing every day AND i had doubts that he'd be

708
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 2: able to continue to do. It knock on times a.

709
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: MILLION i want to make sure THAT i Don't. Jenkson

710
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: he's been An All star once because of not because of,

711
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 2: ability because of just the. Injuries, Right he's never really

712
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 2: had an opportunity to endear himself to The All star.

713
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: Voters he was An All star in twenty twenty, two

714
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: played ninety two games a year and we had twenty

715
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 2: eight home. Runs but He's this has been the most

716
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 2: complete VERSION i think Of Byron buckson that we've seen

717
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: since what maybe twenty twenty, One but then, again he

718
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 2: only played sixty one. Games absurd by the, way in

719
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one he had five b war in sixty one.

720
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,959
Speaker 2: Games holy. Shit but this is him playing every day.

721
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: Defending it's he's not funneling through the. Dah he's playing center.

722
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 2: Field i'm just so happy for. Him it's got to

723
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 2: feel great just that he can go out on the

724
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: field and play every day and not feel like he's

725
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: micro managing every single thing he. Does but he's got to.

726
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 2: Be he's got to be out. There he's on pace

727
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: for nearly thirty. Thirty he's defending, well and he's hitting

728
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: for some maths bridge. Too he's not hitting two twenty

729
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: four like he did and when he was actually An

730
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: All star in twenty twenty, two two seventy. Three AND

731
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: i think that's the most encouraging. Parts SO i want

732
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 2: to See buxton with Another All, star you, know on

733
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 2: his resume there and AND i hope fans get that one.

734
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: Right who did you say was was? Second and? Third? Again?

735
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 3: Uh second and third Is Riley green and then third

736
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 3: Is Mike. Trout.

737
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: TROUT i Get Riley green's playing, well but he's also

738
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 2: striking out thirty one percent of the. Time i'm not

739
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 2: trying to take anything away from him from a production

740
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: and value standpoint like. That it's fine if you're if

741
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: you got a one thirty six OF rc, plus it's gonna.

742
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 2: Play but When i'm splitting hairs For All, STAR i don't.

743
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: KNOW I i. Gravitate Maybe All star voting makes me

744
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: an old. HEAD i GUESS i gravitate more towards The

745
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: Stephen kwans of the, world where he's gonna defend a

746
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: little bit. Better he's hitting three, hundred he's getting on

747
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: base at thirty point higher. CLIP i gravitate towards that

748
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: a little bit more for the third. Spot but people

749
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: might look At warre and, say what About Julio. Rodriguez,

750
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 2: NO i. REFUSE i refuse that guy needs to play.

751
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: BETTER i JUST i refuse for. Him but maybe that's not.

752
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: FAIR i JUST i just think if you're an, outfielder

753
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: no matter how good the glove, is, yeah if you're

754
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: gonna be An All star, starter it's got to be

755
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 2: better than a one FOURTEEN wrc.

756
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 3: Plus SO I i agree with. You BUT i was

757
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 3: also gonna Three Lawrence butler's, Name, Like i'm a little.

758
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 3: Surprised Lawrence butler is not in position right. Now and

759
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 3: guess where he's AT a one FOURTEEN wrc plus outside Of.

760
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 3: Judge The American league outfield is not that, good so

761
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 3: it becomes a battle of the fan. Bases and that's

762
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 3: why you Have Javier bayaz in position to make An

763
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: All star team right, now just At.

764
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: Buckston just please Get buxton in.

765
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 3: There please Get, Buston like would you want to? See

766
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 3: it's tough because Like soderstrom's getting votes because of the

767
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 3: start that he, had but he hasn't been.

768
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: Good Riley greenen deserves it Over soderstrom without a.

769
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 3: Doubt, Yeah LIKE i Like ley and.

770
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 2: Could be a. Reserve he's got fifteen. Homers that's what

771
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 2: gonna put him third among. Outfielders but, MAN I I

772
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: i just think it's gonna Be buston Behind judge and

773
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 2: then leave it wide. Open i'm open to. Whatever maybe

774
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: it could Be riley green BUT i Think kwan is

775
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 2: an interesting conversation.

776
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: Too i'm trying to shove other people in, Here like

777
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 3: could will your bray you be a? Conversation, no because

778
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 3: he's you, know hitting two forty five with an ops.

779
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 3: On someone's gonna get hot in the next, month and

780
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 3: someone's gonna get hot and become An All. Star.

781
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 2: Trout you're If trout's got twenty. Pumps he's at, eleven

782
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: he's put forty six. Games he's already swinging it well

783
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: since he's come, back and.

784
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: He's in line to be a, starter so you know,

785
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 3: what he's gonna take his. Spot So Riley green could

786
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 3: absolutely get leap prugged By Barron buxton over the course

787
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: of the next couple of weeks if people you, know

788
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 3: are paying. Attention last last position we got to go

789
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 3: over in The American league IS dh as it stands right,

790
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 3: Now ryan O'Hearn is the, leader now That Raffie devers is.

791
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 3: Gone Ben rice is, second and guess who's? Third you

792
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: won't yes FOR? Dh FOR dh in The American league

793
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 3: you're done is, fourth which is, hilarious doesn't be, played hasn't.

794
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 3: Played santaider is, fifth he's been. Terrible Mike talkman of

795
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 3: The Chicago White, sox is.

796
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:14,959
Speaker 2: Third shut.

797
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 3: Up he's third in an al all start voting FOR. Dh,

798
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 3: WHY i don't. Know maybe it's just a bit that

799
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy seven thousand people are in.

800
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 2: On they did it With, maldonado didn't they a few years?

801
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: BACK i think? So, Yeah so now it's. TALKMAN i

802
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 3: love THAT i love.

803
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: That, YEAH i mean that's that's. Awesome it's got to

804
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: BE i feel like it's got to Be. Rooker, No.

805
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 3: Rooker is seventh right, now it has to be. O'Hearn, Yeah,

806
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: well so.

807
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: O hearn's breakdown right, now what It's i'm trying to

808
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 2: look at. Starts, yeah twenty five starts AT. Dh that's, enough.

809
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: He's eligible AT. Dh so o'harn is going to be THE,

810
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 3: dh and then it Becomes rice Versus, Rooker rice Versus.

811
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 3: Rooker rice has been very bad over the last few.

812
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: Weeks, YEAH i think it's o'hearne And rooker that should

813
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: be the. Priority it's, there without a. Doubt O'Hearn one

814
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 2: fifty TWO wrc plus and he's playing a little bit of,

815
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 2: defense which is weird BECAUSE i almost want to bake

816
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 2: that into. It it's, like if you're THE, dh but

817
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 2: you're also playing some, POSITION i think that should help

818
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 2: you if. ANYTHING i Know rooker did a little bit

819
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 2: more this year than he did last, year BUT i

820
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 2: think O'Hearn's been the much more complete. Hitter and if

821
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 2: you're looking at it from this, perspective LIKE i know

822
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 2: That rooker's typically going to have the edge power wise

823
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 2: five more, homers but o'harn slugging three points. Higher when

824
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 2: you've got a batting average thirty point higher and AN

825
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: ovp thirty four points, HIGHER i think it's it should

826
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: absolutely be, o'hearne AND i love the guys that are

827
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: having those career. Years those are the guys that should

828
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 2: be The All stars because you don't know if they're

829
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: going to do it. Again the career year guys should be,

830
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 2: rewarded and O'Hearn is having a career.

831
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 3: Year and then some ohearn with our. Friends it Felt

832
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 3: territory said thank you To Craig breslow for Trading rafe

833
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 3: so he could be The All star starter AT. Dh

834
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: SO i appreciate the, awareness the self awareness From rhino. Hearn.

835
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: There let's jump to The National league in a moment.

836
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 3: Here before, that we'll take a quick. Break let's Talk National.

837
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 3: League this is a much more fun conversation in The National.

838
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 3: League THE nl is running circles around the al right,

839
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 3: NOW i view The National league in twenty twenty five

840
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 3: compared to The American league as like The Western conference

841
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 3: in THE. Nba when we were growing, up The Western

842
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: conference All stars were so much better than The Eastern

843
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 3: Conference All. Stars the thing, is The east always Had,

844
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 3: lebron And judge Is lebron in this, Exercise so, like

845
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 3: the best player is in The, east but The west

846
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: is the way better. League The National league is leaps

847
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 3: and bounds beyond The American, league but they've got the best, player.

848
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 2: Which is not how you AND i grew up though with.

849
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: IT i, mean growing, Up American league was just. Dominated oh,

850
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 2: yeah absolutely dominated every single. Year but, YEAH i mean

851
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 2: this is this is kind of. Wild i'm not used to,

852
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 2: it where you're seeing The National league side much. Stronger

853
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: what position are you starting? With the? Outfield?

854
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 3: Catcher?

855
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,959
Speaker 2: Catcher BECAUSE i, Say i'm looking at outfield right.

856
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 3: Now and the outfield breaks my. Brain it, IS i don't.

857
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: Know what to. Do another, Petition maybe just send some

858
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: guys over to The American league because they're so much

859
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: better in the. OUTFIELD i get.

860
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 3: There do you.

861
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 2: Remember catcher's easy here? Too on The national league? Side?

862
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 3: Right do you, remember like youth basketball or, soccer when

863
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 3: you were so much better than the other team that

864
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 3: they would give you like two. RINGERS i was gonna

865
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 3: make that.

866
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 2: JOKE i honestly we happened a couple of times in

867
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: like little league, baseball where like the other team maybe

868
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: was a player or too, short and you didn't want

869
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: to just totally forfeit the, game so we just send

870
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: a couple of players on their side as, well or

871
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 2: like did a couple of guys that were just so

872
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 2: brutal that we sent a couple of players that. Way

873
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: like it's almost that scenario you.

874
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 3: Want Hovey baias Or james. Would but we'll talk about right.

875
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 3: Now the leading vote getter is over a million. Votes right,

876
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 3: now this is Very dodger, heavy understandably, so But Will

877
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 3: smith has been arguably the best. Catcher, actually, no not

878
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 3: arguably the best catcher in, baseball because That's. Raley he

879
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 3: has been inarguably the best catcher in The National. League

880
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 3: that's the way THAT i want to phrase. This Will

881
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 3: smith at one point one million. Votes Carson kelly is

882
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 3: next at four hundred thousand. Votes Will smith is more

883
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 3: than doubling Up Carson. Kelly Francisco alvarez is. Third shout

884
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: out The, Mets Real mutsola's, Fourth Hunter goodman is, Fifth

885
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 3: William contreras is. SIXTH i Appreciate Will. SMITH i love

886
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: the start of the year That Carson kelly has. Had

887
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 3: this is my petition to Get Hunter goodman to The

888
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 3: All Star. Game, wow he's bawling right. Now. Man he

889
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 3: Beat he swept The marlins pretty much by. Himself he

890
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 3: beat The nats pretty much by, himself swept The gnats

891
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 3: like or, not, swept taken two of the front three

892
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 3: Against washington pretty much by. Himself right. NOW i, mean,

893
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 3: dude he's Winning colorado, games and if you're winning The rockies,

894
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 3: GAMES i think you should go to The All Star.

895
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 2: Game. YEAH i mean what's fascinating, too is the defense

896
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 2: has gotten so much. Better you remember that the question

897
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 2: had always been like it when he was a, prospect

898
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: what's it going to be like behind the? Dish they

899
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: even were playing him in the. Outfield, yeah the last

900
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: couple of years they were not catching him at. All some,

901
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 2: circumstances of, course like you Expected Drew romo to potentially

902
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: be that guy for you behind the, dish he. Wasn't

903
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 2: Jacob stallings was magically good last. Year so there were

904
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: some other aspects of, it but a big part of

905
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 2: it WAS i don't think they Thought goodman would get

906
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: it to a point where he's a solid defender AND

907
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: i don't think he's ever going to be an asset back,

908
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: there but he's not a liability by any. Means and

909
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 2: if you're hitting thirty home, runs which he's on pace,

910
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 2: for you'll take that every day of the. Week and

911
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: that's a huge building block for The rockies, there and

912
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 2: it's been a little while since they've had a reliable.

913
00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: Backstop but what's interesting IS i Think Ivon, Herrera i'm

914
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: calling On cardinals fans. Man they didn't show up attendance

915
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 2: wise early in the year because it was a year

916
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 2: THAT i think most people expected to be kind of

917
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: a Puntier AND i get, that AND i get that

918
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 2: it's also cold. There but just for the best fans in,

919
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: baseball you'd expect them to show up a little bit.

920
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 2: More they're thirteenth in attendance this. Year, yeah and this

921
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: team's playing. WELL i get the optics weren't the best

922
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: going into the. Season The Saint Louis, cardinals the best

923
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: fans in, baseball can't be thirteenth in, attendance and your

924
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 2: breakout catcher with a one fifty NINE wrc Plus Von

925
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: herrera can't be outside of, what he's not even in

926
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 2: the top.

927
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 3: Seven that you may he's not in the top. Ten

928
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 3: here's the weird caveat he's seventh IN dh. VOTING i

929
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 3: don't understand why he's ill eligible THE dh. Spot he

930
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 3: should just be a. Catcher AND i think That herrera

931
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 3: could absolutely be the second catcher on the centl teas

932
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 3: he's ACTUALLY.

933
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: Dh more than he's, Caught SO i guess that's. CRAZY

934
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: i would have thought he's caught a little bit more this.

935
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: Year but all, right at, Least i'm glad that they've

936
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 2: got him in voting for him in THE dh. Spot

937
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: i'm glad he's getting votes because the guy's got a

938
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 2: one to fifty NINE wrc Plus cardinals. FANS i need

939
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: you guys to vote that guy up into the top,

940
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: five like it's it's. Crazy he's been so freaking. Good

941
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: But Will smith is the. RUNAWAY i guess the question, becomes,

942
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: yet who is the second place?

943
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: Guy?

944
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 2: If If herrera's A, dh it becomes very fascinating Because Carson,

945
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: KELLY i bet if you do the old since he was,

946
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: amazing he's been this. Bad, yeah probably wouldn't be great

947
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: numbers since he was amazing in the first month of the.

948
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 3: SEASON i think it should Be goodman Over Carson. Kelly

949
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 3: Who Hunter? GOODMAN i?

950
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 2: AGREE i. AGREE i THINK i think It's Hunter goodman

951
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: and they need a. Representative he would be their. Guy.

952
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 3: YEAH i mean it's it's gonna be kind of shitty

953
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: when Like Jake bird is the. REPRESENTATIVE i would prefer

954
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 3: to See goodman as the. REPRESENTATIVE i Think goodman's the

955
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 3: second best, GUY i. DO i agree with. That cool

956
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 3: first base in The National league as it stands right,

957
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 3: Now Freddie freeman the top vote get her at one

958
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 3: point one. Million Pete alonso is second at eight hundred

959
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 3: and ninety five. Thousand it's a total. Runaway Michael bush

960
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 3: is third at two hundred and eighty six, thousand but

961
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: still second place In alonzo is nearly tripling Up Michael,

962
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 3: Busch Bryce harper, Four Luisa rayes, Five olsen, Six naylor's.

963
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 3: Seven Wilson contreras is also there at. Eight but they

964
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 3: have it right those. Two Freddy, alonso no comments concerns from.

965
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 2: Me, NO i, mean that's That's clear's.

966
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 3: Day it's clear his. Day shout Out. Bush Michael bush

967
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 3: has been awesome throughout the. Entirety of His cubs. Career

968
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 3: but he's Not Freddy freeman Or pete A Lonzo.

969
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: No and then just to just to shine a light

970
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: For freeman had another swing last, night just the classic inside.

971
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 2: Out there's no point even. Shifting that guy's just playing straight.

972
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 2: Up he's gonna hit it wherever he, wants inside, out

973
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: shoots it the other. Way the ability to manipulate the

974
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 2: barrel is just. Insane three thirty, three four oh, four

975
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 2: five forty seven slash line with an ankle that's still

976
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 2: messing him up a little. Bit and then also of

977
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: course has been the guy and the fact that he's

978
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 2: got seventeen bombs already is absolutely. Awesome in that strikeout

979
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 2: rates all the way down to twenty one, percent it's

980
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: only one percent higher Than Freddy, freeman who's regarded as you,

981
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 2: know one of the more pure hitters we. Got so

982
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 2: those two have been, awesome and you almost wish that

983
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,959
Speaker 2: they could both share first base to the starting role because

984
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 2: they've been so.

985
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 3: Fantastic, yeah let's jump to second base. Here K Tell

986
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 3: marte the leading vote getter at eight hundred and fifty.

987
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 3: Thousand Tommy edmund is second at five hundred and ten,

988
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 3: Thousand Nico horner And Brendan donovan neck and. Neck cheff

989
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 3: McNeil is also a top five vote getter right, now

990
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 3: With scott coming in at sixth and second. Base But

991
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 3: marte And edmund the two guys in position to Be All,

992
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 3: Stars horner And donovan on the outside looking, In horner

993
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 3: And donovan should both be getting more votes Than Tommy,

994
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 3: edmund AND i Love Tommy.

995
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 2: Edman this might be an even more fair time to

996
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: call On cardinals fans Like Brandon donovan is absolutely racking

997
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 2: up the war but he's also hitting three twenty, three

998
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: three eighty, eight four point fifty. ONE i, mean, like

999
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: this guy's doing everything and he's moving all over the,

1000
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: diamond WHICH i do put value. To he's got to

1001
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 2: be a sign in a specific. Position we don't have

1002
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 2: a utility, spot but the fact that he's a second,

1003
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 2: baseman a position that you, KNOW i think we just

1004
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 2: talked about how lighted is on The american, Side American league,

1005
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 2: side and he's playing all over the diamond and giving

1006
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: you value all over the diamond is absolutely, Huge AND

1007
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: i think you could make a push for For Kateel

1008
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: marte as, well because it's got a one sixty W rc.

1009
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: Plus but he's played TWENTY LUs, games SO i think

1010
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 2: availability does matter to a. DEGREE i look at What horner's,

1011
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 2: DOING i just Think Brandon donovan's doing all of, that but. Better.

1012
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 2: BETTER i, mean maybe he's not as elite of a,

1013
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: defender but it's still plenty of value. There my vote

1014
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 2: would Go donovan and then Kateell marte and Again. Cardinals

1015
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 2: best fans in sports or best fans in, baseball act like.

1016
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 3: It show, up, man just show up third base right.

1017
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 3: Now cardinal fans not showing up For arnato are not

1018
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 3: always been better than it was last. Year But arnatto

1019
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 3: is ninth right. Now Manny machado the leading vote getting

1020
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 3: at nine hundred and fifty five. Thousand Max munsey is

1021
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 3: second at four hundred and fifteen. Thousand Gino suarez is.

1022
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 3: Third you flip Flop suarez And munsi And i'm a happy.

1023
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 2: Camper yeah, YEAH i, mean he's just just a better

1024
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: version of.

1025
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 3: Of what you're getting from way.

1026
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 2: BETTER i Understand munsy's more three true outcome, ish but

1027
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 2: he's got more than double the homers this. ONE i

1028
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 2: Respect cardinals fans for being. OBJECTIVE i Love aeronatto it's

1029
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 2: better this, year but not Guy. Man it's just he's

1030
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 2: just not in the in the same realm as these other.

1031
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 2: Guys machado is Just i'm really buying Into he's been

1032
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 2: hurt the last couple of years and now he's finally

1033
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: healthy and the fact that he's hitting three sixteen as,

1034
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 2: well you know he's gonna. Slug he's defending better as.

1035
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 2: WELL i Think chapman would have a strong case if

1036
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 2: he didn't get, hurt and we'll see how he comes

1037
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 2: back from the, injury AND i mean he could definitely

1038
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 2: make a. PUSH i think these tools separate themselves with

1039
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 2: the way they play over the next. Month BUT i

1040
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: think what Maure otto's doing right now on that team

1041
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: and kind of the revolving door some of the injuries you,

1042
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 2: Had merrill hurt, back, unfortunately hurt, Again tatis outrageously good

1043
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: and then he's kind of hit a. Wall now he's

1044
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: coming alive, again but he had hit a wall for

1045
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: a little. Bit machado's been that key cog for them

1046
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 2: and been a mainstay for. THEM i will say you

1047
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 2: can make a similar argument though For Matt, chapman who

1048
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 2: right next to him is their big. Money shortstop is

1049
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: not ton, shit And chapman's been that main force in

1050
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 2: that offense, Too so you can make a case for

1051
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 2: both those, guys AND i think they should comfortably be

1052
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 2: one and.

1053
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 3: Two chapman because of the, injury is all the way

1054
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 3: down at. Eighth BUT i, mean it's, funny like how

1055
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 3: voting just falls off a, cliff or just how it

1056
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 3: flat out talent it falls off a. Cliff right, Now

1057
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 3: Machado Muncy suarez is, one two, Three Matt shaw is,

1058
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 3: Fourth Alec boem is. Fifth like it's just crazy to, me.

1059
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 3: Boy oh, well a couple more positions Here Shortstop Francisco

1060
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 3: lindor the only guy over a million votes right now At,

1061
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 3: Shortstop Mookie betts is just under six hundred. Thousand then

1062
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 3: you go To Trey turner at three hundred and fifty,

1063
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 3: thousand he's, Third elie de La cruz, Fourth Dames By swanson,

1064
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 3: Fifth Heraldo perdomo fewer than one hundred thousand. Votes for,

1065
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 3: reference that's fewer votes Than arenado. Has it's fewer votes

1066
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:23,919
Speaker 3: Than Jake croninworth. Has Heraldo, perdomo but this is stacked right.

1067
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 3: Now i'm not pro in The National league moving a

1068
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 3: shortstop over to second. Base But, Lindor, Mooki, turner And

1069
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 3: ellie are all deserving Of All star knots right.

1070
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 2: Now turner might be more of the more UNDERRATED i

1071
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: might be having one of the more underrated seasons right,

1072
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: now because everyone loves to shoot on the, defense And

1073
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 2: i'm Sure i've been guilty of, it and he'luck he's.

1074
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 2: NOT i don't think He's Ozzie smith out, there but

1075
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: he's definitely made himself not a liability this. YEAR i,

1076
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: mean if you look at what he's doing, defensively it's

1077
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 2: negative four defensive run, saved but it's three outs above.

1078
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 2: AVERAGE i don't think he's had a positive outs above

1079
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: average since twenty. Nineteen. Wow so the fact that he's

1080
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 2: gotten himself to a point where it was negative four

1081
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 2: defensive run save or negative fourteen defensive run saved last

1082
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 2: year negative three out's above. Average so defending a little

1083
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: bit better but absolutely breaking threeh eight three sixty six

1084
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 2: four sixty six slash. LINE i understand When door is

1085
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: one of the best defenders in the sport at his

1086
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 2: respective position And lindor is slugging a little bit, more

1087
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: but there's a pretty decent gap in the slash. Line

1088
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: what's funny is then you end up because of the

1089
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 2: stadiums side of. Things look AT wrc plus and it's

1090
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: only three points in the favor Of. Turner SO i Lean,

1091
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 2: Lindor BUT i think If turner just keeps, mashing it's

1092
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 2: hard to ignore the slash line of three oho, eight

1093
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: three sixty, six four sixty six compared to two seventy

1094
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 2: five three forty, nine four to sixty. Eight but it's

1095
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: a fun.

1096
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 3: Conversation it is a fun. CONVERSATION i maybe a little

1097
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 3: bit of bias BECAUSE i do love Watching Trey turner right,

1098
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 3: Now Like i'm two games into a four game set

1099
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 3: with Watching turner play, shortstop And i'm obsessed with. It

1100
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 3: in terms of offensively what he does, defensively it's it's

1101
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 3: somehow smooth but bad at the same. Time and that's

1102
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 3: been the case for the last five. Years like it's

1103
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 3: not it doesn't great out well literally, ever but he looks.

1104
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 3: Smooth Tray turner is one of the smoothest looking players

1105
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 3: In Major League, baseball no, Doubt AND i see him

1106
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 3: like he ripped in one hundred and nine mile an

1107
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 3: hour homer to dead center on the second pitch of

1108
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 3: the game On, monday and then went seat hunting down

1109
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 3: the left field line, yesterday like when he gets into. It,

1110
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 3: dude it's really fun to Watch. Turner But ellie de

1111
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 3: La cruz is turning it on now. Too this IS

1112
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 3: i was gonna, Say.

1113
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: Ellie might with a strong, month just put himself into this.

1114
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 2: Conversation last thirty games ops over one, thousand and ALL

1115
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 2: i hear about Is elie De lacruz. Strikeouts Eli delacruz

1116
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 2: strikeouts twenty one percent strikeout rate in that. Span he's

1117
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 2: striking out barely north for twenty five percent of the

1118
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 2: time this. Year if he goes continues to go nuclear

1119
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 2: for another few, weeks he's gonna eclipse them in. War

1120
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 2: and then you're gonna look at the counting stats and, say,

1121
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 2: oh he's got thirty, bags he's got twe and all

1122
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 2: of a, SUDDEN i think we're talking about la De

1123
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: lacruz is the guy that could be that. STARTER i

1124
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 2: don't think that's. Crazy all.

1125
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 3: Right going to the, outfield this is the most stacked

1126
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 3: situation you could possibly find The National league. Outfield it

1127
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,919
Speaker 3: has to be as good as it's been in ten,

1128
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 3: years fifteen. YEARS i don't know the top vote getter right.

1129
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 3: Now the only guy over a million votes is who

1130
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 3: else But Pete Crow armstrong at The Chicago. Cubs he's

1131
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 3: at one point one million votes right. Now Kyle tucker is,

1132
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 3: second Ta Oscar hernandez is, Third Juan soto, Fourth Corbyn carrol,

1133
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 3: Fifth Ronald Acuna junior is. Sixth you assume six guys

1134
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 3: make The All star team right, now so it'd Be, Pca,

1135
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 3: Tucker Tao, Soto Carol acunya on the outside looking In

1136
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 3: Andy pahes who has been amazing this, Year Fernando Tatis,

1137
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 3: Junior James wood And Brandon. Nimo they're nine deep right

1138
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 3: now in The National.

1139
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 2: LEAGUE i don't. KNOW i don't know what to.

1140
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 3: DO i Don't and here's the THING i would, say

1141
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 3: Because akunya missed a whole bunch of, time leave A kunya.

1142
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 3: Out you can't leave A couna out right.

1143
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 2: Now he's the best player on the planet right. Now,

1144
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 2: Yeah so like if he extrapolates this over, what, well

1145
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 2: it'll probably be about forty. Games the numbers might just

1146
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 2: be Too. Gaudi like he's eleventh In National league outfield. War,

1147
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 2: yeah already he's seeing three ninety two with seven homers

1148
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 2: in twenty two, games and he's defending he made nice

1149
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 2: play the other. DAY i don't. KNOW i don't, know

1150
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 2: because we just talked about, like, oh, yeah you got

1151
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 2: to give the value to the guys that are playing,

1152
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 2: more but we weren't comparing any of those guys to

1153
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 2: somebody that's hitting almost four hundred with a home run

1154
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 2: every third. Game if he keeps this, up he's gonna

1155
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 2: catapult himself into the. Conversation but, like there can't be

1156
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 2: a scenario Where Corbyn carroll doesn't doesn't get in because

1157
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 2: just the fan base is smaller and they don't. Vote to,

1158
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 2: me he has twenty. Homers, yeah he's ten stolen bases

1159
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 2: to go with. It he's Also i'd, IMAGINE i don't

1160
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 2: have it in front of. Me let, me let me

1161
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 2: dial it up right. Now, YEAH i. Assume so he

1162
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 2: leaves the league in triples at. EIGHT i just don't

1163
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 2: know how we could leave him. Out AND i think

1164
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 2: there's a real scenario where like he somehow gets squeezed

1165
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 2: out of the starting situation because of A pca and

1166
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 2: A Kyle. Tucker but also look At James wood's, like

1167
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 2: we got to make sure that guy gets in there.

1168
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 2: Too Is Andy paie is just going to be a

1169
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 2: casualty someday.

1170
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 3: He will And woo might be a. Casualty there's gonna

1171
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 3: be two guys that are really freaking, good maybe three

1172
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 3: guys that are really freaking good that are going to

1173
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 3: be casualties. Here to be, Honest soto should be one

1174
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 3: of those guys left on the chopping block if he's

1175
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 3: not in the top. THREE i can see a world

1176
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 3: Where soto doesn't make, It but Also soto's trending closer

1177
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 3: and closer to that nine hundred oh. Ps that would

1178
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 3: just be an auto All star bid for. Him m.

1179
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 2: Hm that's the crazy, part is like if it's if

1180
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 2: the numbers are off the charts like, THAT i don't

1181
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 2: know how you how you omit him.

1182
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 3: So hard as it's So give me six of these

1183
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 3: of these guys right? Now SO i give you. Nine

1184
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 3: do you have it in front of? You P C,

1185
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 3: a P C. A, tucker Tioscar, Hernandez, Soto Carol, Acuna Paes.

1186
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 3: Tatis would those your nine give me? Six give you

1187
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 3: six of? Them, YEAH i can go in p C.

1188
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 2: A Corn Tasias tucker would this is where it gets.

1189
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 3: Tough this is where it gets so now you're, picking

1190
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 3: you're picking one more at A Tioscar, Hernandez Juan, Soto

1191
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 3: Ronald Acuna junior And Andy. Paies it's, LIKE i.

1192
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 2: Want to Go, PAES i do and Again. Ronald if

1193
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 2: he keeps doing, this Then i'll change. It But i'm

1194
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 2: gonna go with the guy that's playing center field at

1195
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 2: a at a high level and it's just just doing

1196
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 2: it on the and also he's doing in big. Games

1197
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 2: he's just he's just had this edge to. Him he

1198
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 2: just deserves to be in That All Star. Game it's

1199
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: crazy squeezing Out Juan, soto but we're comparing those two.

1200
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 2: Guys Pa hayes has almost been as good from a

1201
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 2: slash line, perspective has one more home run and is

1202
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 2: playing center. Field Gres, soto he's just brutal to.

1203
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 3: Watch by, defense he's too horrible to, watch and he

1204
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 3: was brutal to watch run the bases On tuesday In.

1205
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 3: Atlantayah he doesn't give you value there.

1206
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: Either it's.

1207
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 3: Tough so where do you? Go you? Go pahes with

1208
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 3: the six, YEP i go Pa. Haes, Okay i'm going

1209
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 3: A kunya with the six right, now and Pa haes

1210
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 3: is Just Mike, conley like really really good but never

1211
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 3: making An All star. Team so nature of The beast right. Now,

1212
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 3: okay one more position that we got to go over

1213
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 3: here as THE dh drum, roll please Show hey is the.

1214
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 3: Leader Chohio tani the leading vote getter in The National.

1215
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 3: League he's two thousand shy of one point four million.

1216
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 3: Votes Rafi devers is a clear cut. Second now all

1217
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 3: of his votes in The American league transferred over to

1218
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 3: The National, league and then you've Got Seya suzuki, Third

1219
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 3: Kyle schwerber, Fourth Starling marte is. FIFTH i would love

1220
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 3: to See schwarber get to The All Star. GAME i

1221
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 3: understand why, not, though now that you Have devers in

1222
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 3: The National, league If otani And devs Aren't All, STARS

1223
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 3: i will be. SHOCKED i think both those guys are slam. Ducks,

1224
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 3: Well otani clearly is, there But, devers LIKE i, hope

1225
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 3: is a slam.

1226
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 2: Duck, yeah, YEAH i mean it's it's It's, otani no.

1227
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 2: Brainer it is crazy, though if you go BY dhs

1228
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 2: with minimum forty games, played that Ivon herrera is second

1229
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 2: IN wrc. Plus that is, Cool but as A, dh

1230
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 2: you can't ignore the home run output eight homers versus twenty.

1231
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 2: TWO i understand that her aramis some, time but, Yeah

1232
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 2: Koash schweber with twenty two pumps is just gonna is

1233
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 2: gonna make a statement as A dh. Candidate but It's

1234
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 2: otani and you can just he can just kind of

1235
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 2: run away with.

1236
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 3: That, yeah real. Quick one last, thing If Randy rodriguez

1237
01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 3: is not An All star in The National, league we right.

1238
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 3: It that's my one. Pitcher, Note Randy rodriguez has to

1239
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 3: be An All.

1240
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 2: Star, YEAH i MEAN i think he's got to be a. Guarantee.

1241
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 3: Right they reward, saves the reward saves all the.

1242
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 2: Time, yeah that is, true BUT i hope we get

1243
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 2: away from, that like the, State like that's just that.

1244
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 2: Circumstance the guy could only pitch the ending that you

1245
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 2: give him the opportunity to. Pitch, Right if he's the

1246
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 2: best in that inning every single, time he should he

1247
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 2: should get the. Vote.

1248
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Randy rodriguez third among relievers in F war right,

1249
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 3: now only Behind Robert suarez And Cad. Smith Randy rodriguez

1250
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 3: has one. Save Kid smith has three And suarez Leads

1251
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 3: Major League baseball with twenty. One so that's what you

1252
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 3: got right. Now but that's our. Program that's The All

1253
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 3: Star balloting. Update you got anything? Else? Oh, Yeah Connor,

1254
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 3: griffin tell me About Conor griffin piece you.

1255
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 2: Wrote, yeah so it's linked in the episode. Description But

1256
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 2: i've just been so floored by how good this kid.

1257
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 2: Is and he's guess kid just turned nineteen years. Old

1258
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 2: pirates first round pick took up ninth, overall and he

1259
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 2: was sixteenth in our top one hundred. Update at that,

1260
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 2: point he was still playing in LOW, a and you,

1261
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 2: know there was some underlying whiff in the early. Going

1262
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 2: and remember the only reason why he probably wasn't a

1263
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 2: top three pick was there was some hit tool. Concern

1264
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 2: if you go and watch the amateur, video like the

1265
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 2: swing was, rough AND i highlight that in the. Piece

1266
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 2: but he before he even made his pro, debut had

1267
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 2: success or made swing adjustments legitimately before he faced any,

1268
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 2: adversity WHICH i think says a. Lot so for a

1269
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 2: first round, pick top ten pick to make those swing

1270
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 2: adjustments before ever struggling, PROFESSIONALLY i think says a lot

1271
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 2: about the makeup and for those adjustments to be successful for,

1272
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 2: HIM i think says a lot as. Well and through

1273
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 2: his first twenty three, games yes he was, productive but

1274
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 2: he really did struggle with. Secondaries and then he started

1275
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 2: to settle in more and more and, more and he

1276
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 2: started to see those swing adjustments chine through more and

1277
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 2: more and. More the first twenty three game non fastballs

1278
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 2: he hit won fifty against with AN ops below five.

1279
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 2: Hundred since, then which is thirty four, games and that

1280
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 2: includes seven games at HIGH. A now he is hitting

1281
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 2: against non fastballs for twenty four to forty eight six.

1282
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 2: Seventeen the contact rate has jumped from fifty four percent

1283
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,439
Speaker 2: to twenty four percent against non. Fastballs but now let's

1284
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 2: just talk about how quick this guy has been.

1285
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 3: Waiting contact rate has jumped from fifty four to twenty

1286
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 3: four fifty.

1287
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 2: Sorry by fifty four to seventy, four by twenty, percent thank,

1288
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 2: you good. Catch the other side of things that's so

1289
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 2: fascinating is he just continues to get better and better

1290
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 2: as he racks up more. Reps so thirty three games since,

1291
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 2: THEN i just read you the numbers against. Secondaries here's

1292
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 2: the overall numbers four seventeen four to seventy one six

1293
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 2: twenty six slash. Line it's one, thousand ninety seven. Ops

1294
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 2: and in that span he has struck out fourteen percent

1295
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 2: of the. Time so he is slashing the swing and

1296
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 2: miss significantly because of the ability to. Hit secondary is

1297
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,919
Speaker 2: that contact rate jumping by twenty percent to seventy four,

1298
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 2: percent but also just the overall contact rate, jumping the

1299
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 2: swing decisions, improving and by the, way he's playing a great.

1300
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 2: Shortstop AND i would have, said it's kind of silly

1301
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 2: to think about the big league situation when you're developing

1302
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 2: an eighteen slash nineteen year old. PROSPECT i liked him

1303
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 2: out of the draft as a plus plus center, fielder

1304
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 2: though he did have the potential to be an above average.

1305
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 2: Shortstop NOW i see a guy that could be a plus.

1306
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 2: Shortstop and now with the way that he's, performing you

1307
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 2: can start, TO i, think really start to believe that

1308
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 2: he could debut by twenty twenty six at some. Point

1309
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 2: and if you're thinking about it from that perspective of, like,

1310
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,919
Speaker 2: hey this guy could be the latest to fly through

1311
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 2: the minor leagues like the latest high school guy that

1312
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 2: it's just so damn good that you just push him like.

1313
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 2: Crazy AND i don't want to compare him To bobby

1314
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 2: with but like that kind of fly through the minor

1315
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 2: league type of. Situation, yeah that you have to start

1316
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 2: thinking about that because maybe the only position that is

1317
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 2: solidified In pittsburgh a center, field, right and so having

1318
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 2: that solidified, there with O'Neil cruz really developing into a

1319
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 2: solid defender, THERE i think you've got to look At

1320
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 2: Connor griffin and, say let's keep giving him the reps at.

1321
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 2: Shortop he looks great in center, field but he also

1322
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 2: looks great at. Shortstop and that's been the area that's

1323
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 2: really floored. Me IS i thought there'd be a big

1324
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 2: gap where it'd Be, okay he's a gazelle looking like

1325
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 2: a seventy defender potentially in center and maybe an above average.

1326
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 2: Shortstop he looks like he'd be a plus shortstop. Too

1327
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 2: it's becoming almost impossible to poke a hole in this guy's,

1328
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 2: game and the piece is basically making an argument that

1329
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 2: he could be the number one overall prospect in baseball before.

1330
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 3: Long, wow you can print the posters right now With,

1331
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 3: griffin it's short cruise and center and hammer And Henry

1332
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 3: davis behind the. Plate that's really exciting.

1333
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 2: Stuff and That's skeens, guys all, Right.

1334
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 3: That skeens guy's. Fine, yeah But Hank davis is the

1335
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 3: thing really brings all ball, park all, right that's our.

1336
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 3: Program Connor griffin possible future number one prospect in the

1337
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 3: base in baseball and all start voting is pretty good right.

1338
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 3: Now there are some notable, emissions but so, far so.

1339
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 3: Good every link need is in the episode, description including

1340
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 3: arms right up On Connor. Griffin, hey with, that we

1341
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 3: will talk to you guys tomorrow