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Speaker 1: What is going on my People three and Out podcast,

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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff live from the Bay Area. Actually just got back,

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Speaker 1: went to forty nine and practice on this beautiful Monday morning.

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Speaker 1: It's actually Monday afternoon as I'm recording it, and uh,

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Speaker 1: football is in the air, and baby pads for every

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Speaker 1: single team in the NFL are now on. The first

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Speaker 1: padded practice for the forty Niners happened this morning. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: a ton of teams all over the country, whoever your

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Speaker 1: favorite team is in pads. We're going is July if

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Speaker 1: you're listening to this, it's July one. Football is officially back.

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Speaker 1: We gotta think we've got a game this weekend, the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game. Maybe that's next weekend. I don't

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Speaker 1: even know. But we we got football, football, and more

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Speaker 1: freaking football. Thank you Jesus, you're back. Uh fantasy football,

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Speaker 1: gambling on football for all my degenerates out there, I

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Speaker 1: can't freaking wait. Uh, but let's a lot going on,

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Speaker 1: an absolute lot going on. One. I I noticed something

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Speaker 1: at nine er practice the day and I think a

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Speaker 1: couple of teams the last couple of years gave a

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Speaker 1: blueprint of this, and I think it's kind of indicative

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Speaker 1: do away. A lot of teams are gonna kind of

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Speaker 1: build their squad moving forward. You know, some people hit

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Speaker 1: me up on the Middlecoff mail bag asking me to

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Speaker 1: kind of go through what happens at training camp, and

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Speaker 1: I can kind of dive into some of the nitty

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Speaker 1: gritty the things that happened just from a pro scout

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Speaker 1: to the GM to the way every day. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think we all see it on Hard Knocks, right

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Speaker 1: the staffs get together talking about players, talking about personnel,

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Speaker 1: watching the rest of the teams in the league. Um,

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Speaker 1: just give you some insight on that, because you know,

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Speaker 1: you don't really hear that many people talking about it.

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Speaker 1: And something I spent a couple of years. You just

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Speaker 1: spent all day every day for the month of August

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Speaker 1: just grinding and it's just kind of a unique time

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Speaker 1: a year, unlike really the rest of the season. Robert

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Speaker 1: kim DJ was cut from the Arizona Cardinals. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I got a theory on on underachieving five star guys

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Speaker 1: in the first round. It is a recipe for disaster.

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Speaker 1: And God Steve kim Is he missed on a lot

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Speaker 1: of first round picks. I'll go around the NFL. Just

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Speaker 1: some stories just kind of go rapid fire. Uh. Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: mail bag at John Middlecoff is my Instagram handle. I'm

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Speaker 1: doing a lot of Instagram videos a couple of day,

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Speaker 1: just on different things, different things. You guys hit me

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Speaker 1: up on talking a little bit about everything. You can

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Speaker 1: always hit me up in my d M s. I

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Speaker 1: think I've answered all of your questions, uh through d

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Speaker 1: M or either in the last Middlecoff mail back. So

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Speaker 1: you've got anything definitely anything uh pertinent like this's happening

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Speaker 1: now with your team, with a with a position group,

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Speaker 1: with a coaching staff, whatever, just slide up in those

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Speaker 1: d M s. John Middlecoff is my Instagram, same as

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Speaker 1: my Twitter, and I'll answer your questions on this thing.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes if I don't answer your question, the reason is

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Speaker 1: is because I've already answered your questions and when you

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Speaker 1: REDM me, it doesn't go to like the file where

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Speaker 1: I have to click on it just can get lost

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Speaker 1: in the shuffle. So I I'm not trying to not

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Speaker 1: answer your question if you resent that to me, but

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Speaker 1: just keep hitting me up. But I want to start

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Speaker 1: with this, and I think I take a lot of

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Speaker 1: ship on this because people like middlecoff. If you're just

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Speaker 1: a molliial, you're always talking about technology. Well, the reality

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Speaker 1: is with technology, I just said the middlecoff mail back

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Speaker 1: you guys, Basically you don't have my phone number, but

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Speaker 1: essentially you do when you hit me up at a

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Speaker 1: d M on my Instagram account and I either DM

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Speaker 1: you back or answer your question here, that's really no

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Speaker 1: different than someone sending me a text because the only

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Speaker 1: time I ever use Instagram is on my phone. So

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Speaker 1: I'm directly messaging with you on Instagram. That wasn't even possible. Hell,

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Speaker 1: when I was in high school text message I think

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Speaker 1: my first year text messages started like my senior year

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Speaker 1: in high school. That was two thousand two or two

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Speaker 1: obviously technology with Facebook, Twitter, whatever, just the technology. I'm

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Speaker 1: not I'm out of practice today and forever and ever.

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Speaker 1: In the history of football, there were ladders and the

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Speaker 1: film practice. Someone would have to climb up that ladder

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Speaker 1: and take practice and obviously that that terrible, you know,

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Speaker 1: awful day with Notre Dame when the wind blew the

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Speaker 1: guy over and he died. Well, now no humans, you know,

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Speaker 1: believe in people in middle just a millennial. It's always

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Speaker 1: been that way. I think change happens now faster than

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Speaker 1: it ever has, whether it's with people like forcing change

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Speaker 1: through social media, or whether it's with a sport. Because

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Speaker 1: you can communicate with lower levels, upper level so much easier,

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Speaker 1: like a college coach. Just the communication, the the the

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Speaker 1: access to film, the access all of you guys, if

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Speaker 1: you want to get and I highly recommend it. This

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Speaker 1: is a nonpaid plug, the NFL rewind. You have access

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Speaker 1: to every single game that includes all twenty two. You're

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Speaker 1: watching the all twenty two on a game no different

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Speaker 1: than Kyle Shanahan would. Now he might have a cowboy clicker,

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Speaker 1: but you have it in your hand with an iPad.

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Speaker 1: And I think football is very symbolic of the world

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Speaker 1: And that's what makes football so fun. I'm a big believer.

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Speaker 1: Of the three major sports, football, basketball, and baseball, football

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Speaker 1: is by far the most cerebral, but it also is

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Speaker 1: it's not even close the most physical. It's the ultimate combination.

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Speaker 1: It's a physical and mental sport. It combines them both

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Speaker 1: like it's a thinking man sport, but it's also like

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Speaker 1: That's why we all love it. It's it's the best.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing like football, and it's the ultimate

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Speaker 1: and for the best, you have to protect the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, this is a business,

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Speaker 1: Why he's a really good player One because he's unique

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes did last year was unreal, but fifty touchdowns

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Speaker 1: But we can all say, like stats with football on

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Speaker 1: just we'll grow, will adapt, and we'll understand the numbers.

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Speaker 1: But I'm at practice today and I just watching the

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Speaker 1: paying Jalen Ramsey what he wants seventeen eighteen million dollars,

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Speaker 1: I would rather invest that money in a defensive lineman

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Speaker 1: in this league because the rules don't really dictate you

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Speaker 1: being able to be physical with the wide receiver. But

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Speaker 1: the one area on the field that is still the same.

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Speaker 1: Like talking about these new school values, technology has really

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Speaker 1: changed things. You could argue certain things still translate, right,

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Speaker 1: like being nice to people, shaking people's hands, looking them

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Speaker 1: do a deal with them. Well, dominating on the offensive

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Speaker 1: those late round picks that don't that aren't gonna make

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Speaker 1: the team are those guys that team wants to keep

430
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Speaker 1: on practice squad. You're highlighting all this stuff and somehow

431
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Speaker 1: keeping it in a folder. So you have this database

432
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Speaker 1: of information on every team in the league and every

433
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Speaker 1: unit in the league. And it's time consuming. You need

434
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Speaker 1: a lot of bodies, Like you're spending a lot of

435
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Speaker 1: your day doing this stuff. You get up early, you

436
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Speaker 1: eat breakfast, you go to practice, you come back, you

437
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Speaker 1: read the clips, go to lunch. Yeah, you usually meet

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Speaker 1: as a staff. Usually most staffs. Also besides doing all

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Speaker 1: that before the preseason games, you each, as a pro

440
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Speaker 1: scout typically get a position. So and of times the

441
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Speaker 1: college guys do this too, when they're in the when

442
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Speaker 1: they're in house for the or they're in the building,

443
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Speaker 1: you know, for a week or whatever before they go

444
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Speaker 1: out on the road, they get a position. So you know,

445
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Speaker 1: I got linebackers, the West Coast scout gets quarterbacks. One

446
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 1: pro scout gets defensive line and you evaluate that position.

447
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Speaker 1: And it actually is a good way for college scouts

448
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Speaker 1: to one know your team and just kind of get

449
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 1: a feel for what's playing in the league, what your

450
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Speaker 1: star player looks like, what your backup player looks like,

451
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Speaker 1: what your fringe guy looks like, and what the guy

452
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Speaker 1: that has no chance looks like. So it kind of

453
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Speaker 1: iron sharpens iron. So you spend a lot of time

454
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Speaker 1: evaluating your own team, evaluating the teams that are assigned

455
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Speaker 1: to you, and then just doing what other projects you

456
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Speaker 1: have to do. Now, here's the other thing. When you're

457
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Speaker 1: a pro scout this time of year, a lot of

458
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Speaker 1: players are getting cut every day. And I saw Bruce

459
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Speaker 1: Arian said yesterday or a couple of days ago, when

460
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Speaker 1: the pads came on, they had a lot of players

461
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Speaker 1: that quote unquote crapped their pants and the pads separate

462
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Speaker 1: guys in the NFL. If you're listening to this, you're

463
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Speaker 1: a football fan, you know that there's a big difference

464
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Speaker 1: between shwarts and a T shirt. I heard Kyle Shanahan

465
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Speaker 1: today say the first two days of training camp were

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Speaker 1: O T A s. Until you get pads on. That's

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Speaker 1: training camp. And he's right, you can't take much away,

468
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Speaker 1: but you start having players that get cut. Now here's

469
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Speaker 1: the thing in these next couple of weeks. When you

470
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Speaker 1: have an undrafted free agent get cut over the next week,

471
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Speaker 1: you don't have any game tape on them, so you

472
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Speaker 1: evaluate them and maybe you'll claim them. Maybe that was

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Speaker 1: a guy that you tried to sign as a free

474
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Speaker 1: agent after the draft that you couldn't get, or is

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Speaker 1: a guy that you had good draft grades on, so

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Speaker 1: you might claim that guy. And the claiming order as

477
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Speaker 1: of you know, the start of training camp up until

478
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Speaker 1: week four of the NFL season is based on the

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Speaker 1: draft order. So the Cardinals have anyone the Cardinals claim

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Speaker 1: if you're after you know, if you're the Patriots or

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs or the Seattle if they claim him, and

482
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Speaker 1: you claim them, they get them, and then so on. Now,

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Speaker 1: once preseason games start, you might see some veteran players

484
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Speaker 1: or guys that have been in the league get cut.

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Speaker 1: That's a little different. You might have a pro scout win.

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Speaker 1: Let's say, I'm just gonna try to use an example

487
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Speaker 1: from the day, like Jordan Matthews, who is probably gonna

488
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Speaker 1: make thet but he's a guy that's played on multiple teams,

489
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Speaker 1: whose former second round pick. He has NFL film. If

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Speaker 1: he is cut by the Niners after let's say the

491
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Speaker 1: second preseason game, now, I don't think he's gonna get cut.

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Speaker 1: I'm just using him as let's use this as a one.

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Speaker 1: Markis Goodwin, who run that who won that forty yard

494
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Speaker 1: dash race thing for all the NFL players. But I

495
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Speaker 1: think he's a guy that's on the roster bubble now

496
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Speaker 1: will probably make it, but he might not. Let's say

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Speaker 1: about week preseason game three, Pyle Shanahan's down on him.

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Speaker 1: They cut him, Well, every team in the league would

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Speaker 1: probably be interested on claiming him, right, so they would

500
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Speaker 1: go in and they would look at his previous film. Now,

501
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Speaker 1: some teams would have updated grades on him, some teams

502
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Speaker 1: might not, so When guys like that get cut, then

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Speaker 1: it creates. Then it's a different animal that has film.

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Speaker 1: So as you see, you're watching film on veterans as

505
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Speaker 1: they get cut, you're evaluating these undrafted free agents. These

506
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Speaker 1: get cut based on your draft grades because you don't

507
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Speaker 1: have any film to go off of. And then you

508
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Speaker 1: have a small group of players that are just like

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Speaker 1: out on the open right now, that are street free agents.

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Speaker 1: I saw a guy today someone worked out. I forget

511
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Speaker 1: the guy's name, but I saw he was working out

512
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Speaker 1: for a team. So right now you have some players.

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Speaker 1: I'll try to go back and find it. Uh. Alfred Morris,

514
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Speaker 1: for example, been in the league for a long period

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Speaker 1: of time. Certain teams have injuries, like the Saints. The

516
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Speaker 1: Saints brought in Alfred Morris for a visit Sunday and

517
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Speaker 1: probably worked him out to gauge how good a shape

518
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Speaker 1: he's in, to just maybe they've been interested in signing him,

519
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Speaker 1: maybe they haven't, but they just get he's on the street.

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Speaker 1: He's a free agent any team can sign. So sometimes

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Speaker 1: you bring two of three guys like Alfred Morrison and

522
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Speaker 1: you work him out. You just put them through a workout,

523
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Speaker 1: like when you turn on pro Days and you see

524
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Speaker 1: guys working out. That's what you do with these street

525
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Speaker 1: free agents that are veteran players, and if you have

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Speaker 1: an injury, sometimes you just do it even if you

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Speaker 1: don't need them, and you don't even sign them. Well

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Speaker 1: a week later, if you lose a running back boom,

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Speaker 1: you sign Alfred Morris. You're just constantly do doing your

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Speaker 1: due diligence. So between keeping eye on every team in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, keeping notes on them all, and then once

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Speaker 1: the preseason games start, that bubble list whoever was on

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Speaker 1: your bubble list, there was also on the teams that

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Speaker 1: if I had the a f C and NFC West,

535
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Speaker 1: I have to watch every single play that all those

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Speaker 1: guys on my list from fourth to undrafted free agents

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Speaker 1: and then the veterans all their game tape in the

538
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Speaker 1: preseason games, and after about two games I can put

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Speaker 1: somewhat of a grade on them. Ideally use three. So

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Speaker 1: by going into week four you kind of have an idea.

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Speaker 1: And then the top graded guys of you know, the four, fifth,

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Speaker 1: six seventh rounders that you think are gonna get caught,

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Speaker 1: you kind of siphon up to your general manager. All

544
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Speaker 1: while you know working out these guys, if any street

545
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Speaker 1: free agents are a better fit than that guy, all

546
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Speaker 1: while evaluating your own team, what guys make it, what

547
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Speaker 1: guys aren't gonna make it, what guys on your team

548
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Speaker 1: do you want as a practice squad guy? And if

549
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Speaker 1: another team is going to cut a player and wants

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Speaker 1: them on their practice squad, well, if you also like

551
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Speaker 1: that guy and want him on your practice squad, you

552
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Speaker 1: can kind of get a feel and target him and

553
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Speaker 1: then offer him more money than that team, Like you

554
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Speaker 1: can just guarantee his salary as a practice squad player,

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Speaker 1: all while the coaches are just getting the team ready

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Speaker 1: for the season. So the coaches are basically just one

557
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Speaker 1: million percent focused on that day, while the GM and

558
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Speaker 1: the front office is really more focused on the big cutdown,

559
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Speaker 1: you know, and and potential trade. So here's another thing.

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Speaker 1: If you're a team and let's say you need a linebacker, well,

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Speaker 1: the first thing I would do is I would go

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Speaker 1: to all seven or eight of the new staffs in

563
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Speaker 1: the league and look at holdover players that maybe they

564
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Speaker 1: don't want, that maybe doesn't fit their scheme. And then

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Speaker 1: that would be a player that maybe you could potentially

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Speaker 1: trade for. Look at the good examples the Chiefs. Now

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Speaker 1: this was before training camp, but did it with I

568
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Speaker 1: think it's Darren or Duran Duran Lee from the New

569
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Speaker 1: York Jets. Adam gates that that's a good example. So

570
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: you can isolate players that that team is gonna get

571
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Speaker 1: rid of because they have a new staff, and then

572
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Speaker 1: you can take advantage of it for kind of like

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Speaker 1: a late round flyer. Maybe you can trade them a

574
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Speaker 1: player that you don't want that maybe they want. So

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Speaker 1: you're constantly is a front office kind of worried about

576
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Speaker 1: week one, where the coaching staff, while they're worried about

577
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Speaker 1: week one, they're really worried right now, especially in early

578
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: or late July, early August, implementing the offense, implementing the defense,

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Speaker 1: coaching certain coaching points of the scheme, and just getting

580
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Speaker 1: guys better and trying to get guys to separate themselves

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Speaker 1: within their units and then within their groups on the team.

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Speaker 1: And then kind of at the end of the month

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Speaker 1: it all comes together. You start using the coaching staff

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Speaker 1: maybe to evaluate some of the players that you may

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Speaker 1: want to claim to see if they think that guy's better,

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Speaker 1: you know, And some some teams don't even use their

587
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Speaker 1: coaching staff, they'll just claim a guy and that coaching

588
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: staff's gotta deal with them. But the good ones, it's

589
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Speaker 1: pretty that there's a lot of synergy between the two

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Speaker 1: that that's the ideal, you know, way to run an operation.

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Speaker 1: That's what makes Belichick so unique. He's dealing with all

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Speaker 1: this ship. Can you imagine how much he works over

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Speaker 1: this next month, because, don't get it twisted, he's watching

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Speaker 1: every team and every player in the league. I I

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Speaker 1: don't buy that he's not for a second. I don't

596
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Speaker 1: know how he has the time. Maybe he just doesn't sleep,

597
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: but you know, maybe not every player. But I think

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Speaker 1: he's pretty locked in. And I think most of the

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Speaker 1: good coaches are, especially as you get older and you

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Speaker 1: can kind of, you know, not micromanager as much you can.

601
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Speaker 1: You can allow your coaches to, you know, do what

602
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Speaker 1: they've been hired to do. And I think it's hard

603
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Speaker 1: when you're a younger coach. You try to have your

604
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Speaker 1: hand and a little bit of everything you do micro

605
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: manage probably too much, but in a perfect world, you

606
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Speaker 1: delegate and you can lock in. Like as especially the

607
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: good teams, you start knowing exactly what you're looking for,

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Speaker 1: like for example, the Chiefs, by about the third preseason game,

609
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Speaker 1: they're gonna know exactly what their major hole is. So

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Speaker 1: Andy and Beach and and their roster is relatively set,

611
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Speaker 1: they can start locking in on the groups of players

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Speaker 1: that their pro scouts have isolated or targeted that fit

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Speaker 1: that individual target. Now, like the draft, you evaluate everyone.

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Speaker 1: People always like, well, you don't need a quarterback. Well,

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Speaker 1: during the draft process, you might not spend quite as

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Speaker 1: much time on the quarterbacks, but you evaluate all the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks douse. You never know when that guy is gonna

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Speaker 1: become available for you. So as you can see, just

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Speaker 1: a ton of time is spent. Now you gotta keep

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Speaker 1: your house, so you gotta mix in the workout and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, try to get some sleep. But these days

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Speaker 1: as a as a scout are usually six thirty two

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Speaker 1: seven in the morning until pretty late at night. And

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Speaker 1: then you try to mix and have some scout bonding,

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Speaker 1: you know, go to group as a as a unit.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you know, get some beers once or twice, you know,

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00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: over the next couple of weeks, because once the games

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00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: start there there's really none of that. It's just full

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Speaker 1: speed ahead. And then that and then the night of

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Speaker 1: the big cutdowns. Is is kind of an all nighter,

631
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: but it's not as much of an all nighter if

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Speaker 1: you have done all the work over these next three

633
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: or four weeks, you were so far ahead of the game.

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00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: And this is you know, it's the last time of

635
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: the season. You know, the free agency, then the draft,

636
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: those are two places where you can add to your team.

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00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: And then this time of year because once the season starts,

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00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: for the most part, the occasional you know, trade deadline,

639
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: and we've seen more of those with we Uger GMS.

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Speaker 1: This is all she wrote, phillis, you know, the best

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00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: thing that's ever happened to me, and it actually has

642
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: happened to me twice in my life, was failing when

643
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: I got fired in the NFL and my contract not renewed,

644
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: and then when my radio show was canceled in the

645
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: Bay Area. Now did I take some pride it did?

646
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: Philly under Chip Kelly ended up kind of being a disaster. Sure,

647
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: did I take some pride that the person that they

648
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: replaced me with, you know, and the main reason I

649
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: was fired was you know, me and the Raiders. I

650
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: was with the Raider station. They wanted me gone. They

651
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: replaced me with the team employee. That show utterly failed,

652
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: lasted like nine months. But you know again, I'm not better.

653
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: You live and you learn the best. But it's the

654
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: best thing that ever happened to me. Twice one forced

655
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: the media career and this one forced a progressive media career.

656
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: I've gotten into podcasts. I've just gotten much more involved

657
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: in the internet, where the future is gone. Because if

658
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: I hadn't, I probably would still be on the radio.

659
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: I was pretty unhappy at the time, and again it's

660
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: it was forced upon me, but it really made me

661
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: grow professionally and personally. And I said this about Chip

662
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: Kelly when he got fired in San Francisco. The worst

663
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: thing that ever happened to him was the forty Niners

664
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: immediately hired him like three weeks later. Because when you're

665
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: when you fail and you don't have to look in

666
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: the mirror and be introspective at all, how do you grow?

667
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: And I think you see this a lot in the

668
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: draft when players, highly touted players go to big time

669
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: programs and either they underachieve or they get in trouble

670
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: and they fall in the draft the second, third, fourth

671
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: round whatever it usually serves at a motivating purpose, right

672
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: you you kind of failed. Now you quantify that failure internally.

673
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: But I think Honey Badger is a great example. He

674
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: was an All American guy, his life kind of spiral

675
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: out of control at l s U. He got kicked

676
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: off the team, he got drafted in the third round,

677
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: completely changed his career, and it's kind of the benchmark

678
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: for questionable character guys in college that completely turned their

679
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: life around and go down as like every team he's

680
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: been on, he's a team leader, team captain, just badass.

681
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he's one of my favorite players in the league.

682
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: But most guys that like Honey Badger, they get drafted

683
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: in the first round, And to me, I've changed my

684
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: a philosophy. If I was drafting in the first round,

685
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: especially like after the top ten, I would not try

686
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: to hit home runs. I would not mess with the

687
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: Robert Kim DJs because more than likely the five star

688
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: recruits who underachieved in college, who then you draft in

689
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: the first round are gonna let you down. I would

690
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: take those guys in the mid rounds, in the in

691
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: the late second, third, fourth round, whatever, because maybe it

692
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: motivates them. But I'm not messing around with the with

693
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: drafting him in the first round, giving a four year

694
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: guaranteed contract, and giving him a bunch of money. And

695
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: I think that it's a good example. Robert hum Dj

696
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 1: was just cut for being fat and out of shape, Like,

697
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: how's that even? How's that possible? Of course he's fatten

698
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: out of shape. He's Robert hum Dj. He's always an underachiever.

699
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: He has shown you like he's established himself, big five

700
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: star recruit, goes to All Miss, not really that good,

701
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 1: just kind of goes through the motions. And then he

702
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: gets to the NFL. What does he do? Go through

703
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: the motions, Go through the motions, go through the motions.

704
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: Then I don't know if you guys saw that video

705
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: on TMZ he got pulled over because he had a

706
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: warrant and he had some cocaine on the center console.

707
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: Like the guy's just the ultimate slappy And I think

708
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard. I've read a lot about Chris Ballard. It

709
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: feels like over the last couple of months he wrote

710
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: that article for Peter King. The one reason I'm betting

711
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: the house on him because he doesn't go for flyers

712
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: like that. He's not necessarily looking to hit home runs.

713
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: Now you may end up hitting a home run. You

714
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: taking Darius Leonard whatever in the second round, But I

715
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: think Chris Ballard would tell you, I don't know if

716
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: I knew Darius Leonard was gonna be this good, but

717
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: I knew he wasn't gonna be bad like I didn't

718
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: know Quentin Else. I knew Quentin Nelson gonna be really good.

719
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: I drafted from the top ten, but I also knew

720
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: he had zero bus potential. I'm taking high character guys

721
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: who love football and they're tough and badasses. When you

722
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: mess with underachievers that you question their love of football,

723
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: you usually have problems. I would say the number one

724
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: way for a guy to bust in the NFL, Robin

725
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: kN Dj has the NFL talent. He's six five, three

726
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: hunder pounds can move like that. There are there's a

727
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: long list of those guys right. Didn't meet every physical requirement,

728
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: but the stuff you can't quantify, Like, bro, how much

729
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: do you like playing football? If you gave that player

730
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: truth serum, they would say, not that much. God just

731
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: gifted me with these physical attributes and I have to

732
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: do it. And I think you've seen a lot in

733
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: basketball too, especially with big guys like why have there

734
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: meant so many big guy bus in the NBA because

735
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: those guys don't like playing basketball that much. Where when

736
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: you draft guys maybe they're a little smaller, they really

737
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: like playing football. It's gonna work. Now, he might not

738
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: be a star, and their ceiling maybe cap because to

739
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: be a great NFL player you need special physical attributes.

740
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: But if you have the baseline of physical talent and

741
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: you have the love of the sport, I think you're

742
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 1: gonna be in pretty good shape. And when I saw

743
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: that Robert hm DJ was cut, I thought, you know what,

744
00:36:55,360 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: of course he was, because he was how was he

745
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: ever going to succeed in the NFL. Guys like that

746
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: just don't turn it around. And you know, I think

747
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: it's kind of an indictment of Steve Khin, a general

748
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,479
Speaker 1: manager that's now on his third coach who last year

749
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: had one of the most egregious errors of general manager

750
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: can have a d U I on the fourth of

751
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: July in Scottsdale, Arizona, like, I'm sorry, that cannot happen.

752
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: That cannot happen. He was suspended for you know, basically

753
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: a month, but then at the end of the year

754
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: they had to fire his one and done coach because

755
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: he was beyond awful. It was clear he was not

756
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: an NFL coach. And then you look at his drafting

757
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: record Jonathan Cooper swinging a miss, d J Humphries swinging

758
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: a miss, Robert Him, d J swinging a miss, Josh

759
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: Rosen he got rid of a year later. Now he

760
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: did draft Kyler Murray. That's because he had the number

761
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: one pick in the draft, and he had to hire

762
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury, who failed at Texas Tech. It's not like,

763
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: you know what, he went to college and he got

764
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: his Urban Meyer, he got his Peak Carroll, he got

765
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: his Jim harbaught. No, he had Cliff Kingsbury, who was

766
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: just fired at Texas Tech. I mean, I think when

767
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: you take a step back and there's a ton of

768
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: hype right now on Kyler Murray and what's going on,

769
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: I think the Arizona Cardinals are gonna be awful. I

770
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: think Steve Kain has done an abysmal job. I think

771
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: it's borderline insane that he got that, he kept his

772
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: job and he was allowed to hire this guy. I

773
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,479
Speaker 1: think it's got a chance to be an all time

774
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: train wreck. When is the last time a college head

775
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 1: coach who had coach in college for whatever five plus years,

776
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: had an under five record, whose teams played zero defense

777
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: and then just came to the NFL and had success

778
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: for a GM that has not drafted very well recently.

779
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: One to the personnel on the team is very questionable,

780
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: and look at the teams in the division. He has

781
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: to be. I don't know, Pete Carroll, you know a

782
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: top three or four head coach in the NFL, Sean

783
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: mcvagh and Kyle Shanahan kind of the apple of every

784
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: NFL GMS I as offensive coaches. How is he gonna

785
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: beat these guys? Like, is there a chance they go

786
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: ohen six in the division? Is there a chance that

787
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: he's worse than Steve Wilkes? As crazy as that sounds, now,

788
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: you'd be like meddle Coff. Their offense is surely to

789
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: be better. Well you think, I don't know that for

790
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: a fact. We we will see. I I just think

791
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, you know, Kim d J is just such

792
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: a great example of why you should not mess with underachiever,

793
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: underachieving five star guys. That's question and passion for the sport,

794
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: or question in the first round. I got no problem

795
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: taking him. DJ in the third round, you take flyers

796
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: like that. Hell, even the second round I can live with.

797
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: But the first round. I can't imagine how many busts

798
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: in the first round have been because the guy simply

799
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: does not like football for the most part. If you

800
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: probably looked over the last ten years of draft history,

801
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: most guys that get drafted in the first round have

802
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: the physical characteristics to be first round picks. I would

803
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: say the overwhelming majority are, Yeah, that guy's a first

804
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,479
Speaker 1: round body. Yeah that guy has first round speed. Yeah

805
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: that guy's first round power. But the guys that fail

806
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: not because of injuries, I would I would venture to say,

807
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: and maybe I need someone to do a deep dive

808
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: study on this the percentage of people, And it'd be

809
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: hard because you can't quantify it. Just don't like football.

810
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 1: Is like the guys that fail and we knew that,

811
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: Like that was the beat on this guy coming out,

812
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 1: and he still took him. Now, maybe it was because

813
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 1: they were feeling themselves up. The honey Badger and Bruce

814
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: arians thinks he can fix everyone, but you can't. Thinking

815
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: you can fix everyone gets coaches fired, you know, gets

816
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: creates first round bus Have you have a player that

817
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: gets pulled over in a chevron and has a line

818
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: of blow on a center console that that's what you get. Now,

819
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: you could argue some players that like football have a

820
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: line of blow. You know, in the history a lot

821
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: of players have been popped for drugs. That's true. But

822
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, if I'm

823
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: gonna swing and miss with a guy, Michael Irvin had

824
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: some issues. No one ever questioned his action and love

825
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: for the sport, right hell. Alden Smith had a ton

826
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: of issues. No one ever questioned how much he liked

827
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: playing football. And Alden has, I mean still has issues.

828
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: I mean he's gotten feels like five us in the

829
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: last five years. But like if I'm gonna miss on

830
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: Alden Smith, guy's a train wreck off the field. At

831
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: least when he's on the field, he tries like Cam

832
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 1: DJ didn't even try when he was on the field.

833
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: Steve Kim, it really is pretty wild and I kind

834
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: of had a conspiracy theory. One of the reasons so

835
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: many gms keep their jobs so much longer in coaches

836
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: because they're the one person that spends so much time

837
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: with the owners and kind of has the key to

838
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: their treasure chest of all the cash. Like they're the

839
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: one person that can kind of talk normally to an

840
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: owner about things that the owner can relate to money

841
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: paying players, paying coaches. Because let's call it what it is.

842
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 1: The general manager in the GM aren't diving too deep

843
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 1: on the depths of routes and the three four scheme

844
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: for the cornerbacks and how to play or three like,

845
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: that's not really what they're talking about. They're talking about

846
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: how much money to pay certain players, how much money

847
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 1: to allocate towards this what guys they like in the draft. Basically,

848
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: all the fun ship, the the in depths, nuts and

849
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: bolts stuff with football really comes from the coaching side.

850
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: The owner can't can only talk to the coach about

851
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: so much like have in depth conversations. Now, the higher level,

852
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: older coaches clearly can have those conversations like Pete Carroll

853
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: with Paul Allen, Andy Reid with with Clarke Hunt, you know,

854
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: the Tomlin with the Rooneys, like they're having those conversations.

855
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: But for the most part, when you see these one

856
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: and done situations, that coach never gets to develop probably

857
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: a good relationship with the owner one. They just don't

858
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: speak probably as much as you think, and too they're

859
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: not talking about things that they really can relate to.

860
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: So I think at the end of the day, the

861
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 1: overall takeaway from Candi getting fire or cut, it's pretty

862
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: crazy that Steve Kim still is a job. Let's go

863
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: around the league there, there's just a ton going on.

864
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 1: Gonna do this every podcast during training camp for sure,

865
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 1: just jot down things that I saw and things are interesting.

866
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: Hit on each one maybe a minute or less, and

867
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: again then they'll probably no Middlecoff mail bag this week.

868
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: Just I need more of your questions slide up in

869
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: those d M s at John Middlecoff and I'll answer

870
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: him on Friday's podcast. But for this one, it's just

871
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: we're just going around the league, and let's start with

872
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. This story today broke I think rap

873
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: sheet on Twitter the Miami Dolphins have fired their offensive

874
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,479
Speaker 1: line coach. How do you fire your offensive line coach?

875
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: On July twenty nine. Now, I get they had another

876
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: guy on staff, someone that uh that Brian Flores had

877
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: worked within New England. Who Belichick fired in New England,

878
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: And I think his name is gu yelmo. I can't

879
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: ever say his last name, but how can that happen?

880
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: I I I just my only response was just smh,

881
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: like what the hell? That makes no sense? Just feels

882
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: very Dolphins. Of course, the Miami Dolphins fired their offensive

883
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: line coach before August one, about three days into training camp.

884
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: What what a joke? I mean, what why did you

885
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: hire the guy in the first place. I didn't even look.

886
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: Was he a hold or whatever. I just that can't happen.

887
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: That that that cannot happen. Dallas Zeke holding out in Mexico.

888
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: My feelings are are pretty well documented on this. I

889
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 1: do not think Zeke's getting very good advice. You don't

890
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: get to get in trouble and then dictate the terms.

891
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: I saw Jerry Jones said on a local news channel

892
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: or something that, Uh, listen, you know you don't need

893
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: a leading rusher to win a Super Bowl and that's

894
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 1: just a fact. So Zeke, he doesn't need you one two.

895
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: He just how do you do that to someone who

896
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: supported you? Just show up. He's gonna take care of you.

897
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: I think it's a massive slap in his face. I

898
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: get it's a business, but it was a business when

899
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 1: the Cowboys signed him for all that guaranteed money when

900
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: he was a rookie, had never played a game. It

901
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: was a business. When Jerry went to war with Royer

902
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 1: Goodell when he was getting suspended, like see, come on, man, Uh,

903
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: Carolina there trying to not limit McCaffrey's touches, but just

904
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: be careful about not giving him too much, which I

905
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 1: would agree in theory. But here's the problem. He's probably

906
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: their best offensive player at this point, with Cam Newton

907
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: coming off an injury. You need to give him between

908
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: catches and rushing attempts. I would target him in the

909
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: passing game probably a hundred forty times. I'd like to

910
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: get him over a hundred catches in the passing game.

911
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: I'd probably like to get him, you know, in a

912
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: sweet spot around nine hundred of you know, eleven hundred

913
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: yards somewhere in there. I think you could argue he's

914
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: first thousand yard rusher, a thousand yard receiver in a

915
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: long time. The Sake want to do that last year?

916
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: Maybe No, I don't think he did. But that's McCaffrey's

917
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: stud Phil eat Jordan Howard basically taking all the number

918
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 1: one reps. Uh. The kid they drafted from Penn State.

919
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: I would imagine gonna be the backup they signed Darren Sprawls.

920
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: Jordan Howards, a good player. You know, for whatever reason,

921
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: him and Naggie just didn't work. But I think the

922
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: Eagles for basically gave up nothing to get him. Now

923
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: he's going to be a free agent, and you know,

924
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: Roseman is not in the business of signing and you know,

925
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: running backs to long term contracts. Though, if he has

926
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: a good year, I can see them doing a team

927
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 1: friendly deal with him. You know, why why not? Running

928
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: backs come cheap? Where else is he getting information from? Okay, Cincinnati.

929
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: The worst news of the weekend A J Green torn

930
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: ligaments in his ankle. The backstory, the NFL wanted to

931
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: go to Dayton, Ohio, the original place a hundred years ago. Obviously,

932
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: you know, if you watch NFL Network, they're all wearing

933
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: those hundred collar shirts. A hundred years ago the first

934
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: ever NFL game or football game was played, their professional game.

935
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 1: But where they were gonna build there was an Indian

936
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 1: burial ground that I guess the local Indian tribe fought. Listen,

937
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: I'm always pro building if wherever I'm buried. Once upon

938
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully not for a while. You know, I'll

939
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: be thirty five here relatively soon, so hopefully I got,

940
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: you know, forty years left to keep now. I mean,

941
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: let's say forty five. Make it till, make it till eighty.

942
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: If I make it till, you've had a good run.

943
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: But if one day you can build over my grave,

944
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: you know, to benefit the community, go ahead and do it.

945
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: You know, I'm always pro growth and pro building. But

946
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: for some reason, the NFL didn't fight it. They instead

947
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: just went to this other field. The field turned out

948
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: to be terrible, and A J. Green was the end result.

949
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: Costs them their best player for you know, I would

950
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: say he's gonna miss definitely a couple of weeks of

951
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: the NFL season. That's that's a big loss for a

952
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna be a free agent and a guy

953
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: that's coming off a ton of injuries. I mean, you

954
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: just look at his injury history. I know, Warren Sharp

955
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: tweeted it out. He's had two or three major injuries,

956
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: and a lot of them have been lower legged foot injuries.

957
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: Not ideal. I like a J. Green, I would say

958
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: it's negative. He's a little built like a track athlete,

959
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: got to be close to a pent and when he's not,

960
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: he's kind of useless. And now he's definitely useless on

961
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: the sideline. Shitty deal all around for the Bengals. The

962
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders. They got Antonio Brown, who's now only practiced

963
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: like once of three or four practices, but we'll assume

964
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna be healthy. Tyrrell Williams, the deep threat they

965
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: signed from the Chargers, also having a good camp. Hunter Renfro,

966
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: I think is gonna be the starting slot receiver. Everything

967
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: you hear read and talk to people with the Raiders,

968
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 1: he's crushing in camp. Feels like John Gruden is dying

969
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 1: for a little white receiver to be like his Wes Welker,

970
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: and I think Hunter Renfro is gonna be that guy.

971
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: Hunter Renfro, if you've ever heard Dabbo talk about him,

972
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: says he looks like nothing and then all of a

973
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: sudden you put him on the field and he's just balls.

974
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: The kid can just play. So I think at the

975
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: end of the day, look for Hunter Renfro to not

976
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: just be a Raiders, you know, make the team, but

977
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have a role and a and

978
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: a relatively big role in this offense. What another receiver

979
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: that's kind of fascinating, same draft class. DK Metcalf. Word

980
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: was coming out of Seattle that they're in the two

981
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: wide receiver sets. Now, granted you look at the depth chart,

982
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: they don't have much. Obviously, Tyler Lockett is there one.

983
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,919
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf is there too. Right now now, I think

984
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: the question on DK Metcalf was he was kind of

985
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: a one trick pony. He could go straight, but he

986
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: couldn't do anything else, couldn't cut all of his you know,

987
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: short shuttle stuff at Combine and at the Pro Days

988
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: was terrible. It was like historically bad. I mean, it's

989
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: like Tom Brady level movement. But that's why you pay

990
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: your wide receiver coach three four or five thousand dollars,

991
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: why you pay your offensive coordinator a million dollars. It's

992
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: why you pay your coaches so much. Coach this guy up.

993
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: It's why you pay your strength and conditioning coaches so much,

994
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: so much. Get this guy more flexible? Now? Can you

995
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: get more flexible? Time will tell, But one thing's clear.

996
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf isn't just gonna play for Seattle. He's gonna

997
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: be kind of like a key component for them. Now

998
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: is he good enough? I don't know, we'll see. But

999
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: you could also say, who are the corners in in

1000
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: the NFC West. The Niners have one Richard Sherman, and

1001
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: then they don't really have another one. Jason Barrett Verrette

1002
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: is just I mean, he's played in one game in

1003
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: three years, so I can't count on him. Yet you

1004
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 1: look at the like, who are the Rams corners? Talib

1005
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: you know, he's a shell of himself. Marcus Peters, He's

1006
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 1: just he's an off you know, he can't really run.

1007
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: He can make plays on the ball, but he's a

1008
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: pretty flawed player. The Cardinals they got They got Patrick Peterson.

1009
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: That's about it. Patrick Peterson is a good player. But

1010
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: all those like Patrick Peterson, Richard Sherman, they got an

1011
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: account for, uh Tyler Lockett the Washington Redskins. This just

1012
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: shows you how high of a level this guy is.

1013
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: His career is over. Alex Smith, after his leg basically

1014
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: snapped last year, he's still attending quarterback meetings helping those

1015
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,919
Speaker 1: guys out. I mean, just what a high level guy?

1016
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: Could you argue that Alex Smith is the most appreciated

1017
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: NFL player of the last decade. Yeah, he's not Tom

1018
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: Brady or Ben Roethlisberger Rodgers. But if you had a

1019
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: good team and he was your quarterback, you were gonna win,

1020
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: and you were gonna win relatively big, like you were

1021
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: gonna win your division. You know. When his first year

1022
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 1: starting with Harbaugh, they were the number one seed. Obviously

1023
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: with Andy Reid they had several years of making the playoffs. Now, again,

1024
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: he is flawed because of his arm strength, but he

1025
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: was a winning player. Now, your team had to be good,

1026
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: but you could win, and you could win relatively big.

1027
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: Like to me, winning eleven, twelve, thirteen games is winning

1028
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: big in the NFL playoffs. Yeah, I mean, he he

1029
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: was what he was. But I think Alexmi is gonna

1030
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: go down. It's one of the more underappreciated players of

1031
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: just I don't know the last decade the Jets. Sam

1032
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: Donald one, he's just got impeccable hair. That the flow

1033
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: on Sam Donald's head is unreal too. I'm just such

1034
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: a Sam Donald fan. Every time he talks, you just

1035
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: think yourself, you know what, that's a high level guy.

1036
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: I've been rooting for Sam Donald since he was a

1037
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 1: freshman at usc I guess he was a retyird freshman

1038
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: when he came in. He replaced Max Brown the rest

1039
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: of history. Now he's got to work on the turnovers.

1040
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: But add Levian Bell adding an offensive coach. I'm expecting, Say,

1041
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: do you know what game I'm actually looking forward to

1042
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: here in late July Week one? Jets Bills? Who's not

1043
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 1: looking forward to? Sam Donald, Verst, Josh Allen. I'm actually

1044
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: just I'm getting fired up in a little bit just

1045
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: thinking about it. Here's a crazy stat in Peter King's

1046
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: Monday Morning Quarterback. I think they might call it something different,

1047
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: but Dan Quinn is the first head coach to fire

1048
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,959
Speaker 1: all three coordinators O C, d C and special teams

1049
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: coordinator and keep his job since nineteen eight nine. Think

1050
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: how one heard of that is. I'm not a math major,

1051
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: but nine two thousand, nineteen that's thirty years. That's unheard of.

1052
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: We see a lot of coordinators get fired one at

1053
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: a time here and there, but all three coordinators in

1054
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: the same season and the guy keeps his job. I

1055
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 1: just thought that was an incredible stat. I don't really

1056
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: have a take beside, I read that and then I

1057
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: had to read it again. I'm like that is insane.

1058
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: That's pretty wild. Now, if you've been listening to me,

1059
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: you know I'm pretty high on the Falcons. Matt Ryan

1060
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 1: and their offense was awesome last year, was their defense

1061
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Speaker 1: was debaccle. Whether their defense are getting all the players back,

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Speaker 1: how are they not going to be better? But they

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Speaker 1: are bringing in three new coordinators now one I mean

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Speaker 1: Dirk Cutter, he's been there before and he's working Matt Ryan.

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Speaker 1: So that's a little unique. But think about that, the

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Speaker 1: first time for something to happen with NFL coaches in

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Speaker 1: terms of firing since nine. That tells you something. So

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Speaker 1: I I not that I'm not as high as the

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Speaker 1: on the Falcons, but when I see that, I'm like God,

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Speaker 1: there is a lot of pressure on these three new

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Speaker 1: coaches in the three units here in a brand new

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Speaker 1: voice because a lot of carry over with the same players, right,

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Speaker 1: but they're getting three new voices. And we know sometimes

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Speaker 1: whether it's offense, whether it's defense, there's just some just

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Speaker 1: takes a minute. It just takes a minute. Now, offense

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Speaker 1: for them should take a little less, but defense, for sure.

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Speaker 1: and I'll see you a little later this week.