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Speaker 1: Welcome one and all to the Hammer Territory Podcast. It

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Speaker 1: is so good to be with you once again. And

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Speaker 1: the best thing about it, Steven, for the second time

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Speaker 1: this season. It's a bit depressing to say that, but

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Speaker 1: you know what, We're going to keep the positivity flowing

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Speaker 1: all night, just like the offense was flowing for the Braves.

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Speaker 1: The Braves get their second victory of the season in

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Speaker 1: a game that had a little bit of playoff feel

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Speaker 1: to it. Steven tober But before we get into all that,

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Speaker 1: always a pleasure to speak with you, especially since we

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Speaker 1: get to speak covering our first win of the season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's up, buddy, it's you know, it wasn't looking good.

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Speaker 2: I thought we were gonna do another podcast where they

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Speaker 2: lost and we were gonna have to come on here

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Speaker 2: and talk about Chris Sale and you know, the offense

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Speaker 2: shutting down after scoring three runs early, and it wasn't

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Speaker 2: looking good. Zach Wheeler kind of got into a groove

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Speaker 2: credit to the offense. They just kept coming. I don't

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Speaker 2: We'll get to it here in a minute, but just

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Speaker 2: a really good win. Obviously, Phillies are a really good team. Braves,

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Speaker 2: so it's it's nice to be a good team after

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Speaker 2: they got their ass kicked by the Padres and the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: So but yeah, man, it's good to be back on

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Speaker 2: with you. Obviously we were both on vacation. You were

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Speaker 2: still working, I was. I was off for about four days.

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Speaker 2: So it's always good to be back on with you.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, of course, you know, being able to come up

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Speaker 1: was nice to see that victory, that dominant victory over

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Speaker 1: is a bit more of a satisfying victory. We talked

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Speaker 3: So coming into this game.

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Speaker 1: year's top two finishers in the Cy Young Race, you know,

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Speaker 1: a big game for the Braves obviously facing off against

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Speaker 1: you know, they're year in and year out rival in

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Speaker 1: more about Sean Murphy in just a moment, but then Stephen,

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Speaker 1: right after that, right after that, the Phillies come back,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, here we go again. The Braves

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Speaker 1: finally get an offensive outburst that we've been waiting for

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Speaker 1: claw back and were able to get the job done. Steven,

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Speaker 1: let's first just talk about that. I guess range of

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Speaker 1: as we work through the games, it felt like this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a weird feeling watching Braves games right

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Speaker 1: Absolutely that you hope that that's the case consistently, is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody in the line up had a hit tonight.

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Speaker 2: But listen, seven runs you know, against like you said,

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Speaker 2: But for tonight, it was a win. It was a

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Speaker 2: The offense carried the team. And that's good to see

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. And let's talk about, you know, a few instances

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the bottom of the owner got on bas eight

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Steven, so coming into tonight is it coming going

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Speaker 2: to say it. And I'm not worried yet, but I

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Speaker 2: am monitoring the fastball velocity. Obviously that's sometimes a precursor

432
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Speaker 2: to some sort of injury. After as many innings as

433
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Speaker 2: he threw last year. Kind of the same with Ronaldo.

434
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Speaker 2: You're kind of always on edge about is there gonna

435
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Speaker 2: be any sort of effects, you know, from all those

436
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Speaker 2: innings he threw last year, and so we're just kind

437
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Speaker 2: of holding our breath and hoping it's just kind of

438
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Speaker 2: an early season thing and it picks up as the

439
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Speaker 2: weather warms up. Yeah.

440
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Speaker 1: A couple of things that I'll say to that when

441
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Speaker 1: it comes to Chris Sale is that, you know, I

442
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Speaker 1: think that Sale is one of the most trustworthy pitchers.

443
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Speaker 1: He's one of the most I think, cerebral pitchers in baseball,

444
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Speaker 1: one of the most resourceable pitchers. In other words, he

445
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Speaker 1: can still find success to the level of putting you

446
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Speaker 1: in a position to win even if he doesn't have

447
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Speaker 1: his best stuff. I don't think anybody you know doubts

448
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Speaker 1: that about him. But I also think that we're we

449
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Speaker 1: were just so used to the consistent dominance last year,

450
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Speaker 1: and we were also so reliable on We also were

451
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Speaker 1: so used to the fact that Christale had to be

452
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Speaker 1: dominant to get the job done with you know, some

453
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Speaker 1: of the offense and struggles as of last year, We're

454
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Speaker 1: not used to seeing him get the type of run

455
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Speaker 1: support that he got. Now Chrisdale gets five runs a

456
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Speaker 1: night from the offense. I definitely am going to be

457
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Speaker 1: confident he's going to win, probably seventy five percent to

458
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Speaker 1: eighty percent of the time. But I agree with you,

459
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Speaker 1: especially with sales stuff. The slider in and of itself,

460
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Speaker 1: it was at seventy five seventy six seventy seven tonight

461
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Speaker 1: as well after being at seventy nine to eighty, and

462
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Speaker 1: let's be honest, he also he was in pretty hard

463
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Speaker 1: tonight against a very good Phillies lineup. So yes, I

464
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Speaker 1: do think that the quality of competition that he's faced

465
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Speaker 1: so far this year probably has made the numbers be

466
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Speaker 1: a little bit worse than you would usually see. But

467
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Speaker 1: also the concern is there a bit I think, not

468
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Speaker 1: necessarily concerned, but again, as you mentioned, something to monitor

469
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Speaker 1: when it comes to the vlosity, because we've already seen

470
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Speaker 1: as we transition out to the latest news in Rinaldo Lopez,

471
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Speaker 1: we've already seen, you know, some questions about Renaldo Lopez's

472
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Speaker 1: you know, inconsistency of velosity in spring training. We thought

473
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Speaker 1: that maybe he had worked through it because he was

474
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Speaker 1: throwing the ball pretty fast in his loan start this year.

475
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Speaker 1: But unfortunately we got some updates on Renaldo Lopez. It's

476
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Speaker 1: not the best of news obviously. It was reported last

477
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Speaker 1: week that today wend A. Lopez would be undergoing arthros

478
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Speaker 1: copic surgery. It wound up being a clean up procedure. Basically,

479
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Speaker 1: the news that we received is that Ronaldo Lopez. They

480
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Speaker 1: didn't really find any structural damage. They did do a

481
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Speaker 1: clean up procedure. Ronaldo Lopez will not be throwing for

482
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Speaker 1: three months, basically twelve weeks.

483
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Speaker 3: That'll put his next time that he will start.

484
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Speaker 1: A throwing program, probably sometime in July, maybe around or

485
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Speaker 1: right after the All Star break. But of course, him

486
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Speaker 1: just starting a throwing program, that doesn't mean he's any

487
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Speaker 1: more close to being able to get back into major

488
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Speaker 1: league games. The Braves they consistent when they put him

489
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Speaker 1: on the IL about ten days or so ago, saying

490
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Speaker 1: or eight or so days ago saying that they hope

491
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Speaker 1: that he pitches sometime this year. I think the news

492
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Speaker 1: today could be a bit encouraging that he could return

493
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Speaker 1: at some point in time this season. Stephen. But the

494
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Speaker 1: point that we're getting at is that you basically put

495
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Speaker 1: him on the level of a Joe Jimenez. If you

496
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Speaker 1: get him back, great, that's a good thing. What version

497
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Speaker 1: of him are you going to get you don't know,

498
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Speaker 1: And again it could be very likely that you don't

499
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Speaker 1: get him back. The point of it is, unfortunately the

500
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Speaker 1: Braves have lost an arm they were looking to rely

501
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Speaker 1: on this season, and that's going to be an the

502
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Speaker 1: big hole for them to feel as we go along

503
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Speaker 1: this season.

504
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Speaker 2: Yeah, basically, for the second year in a row, they've

505
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Speaker 2: lost one of their starters for the season in early April.

506
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Speaker 2: Obviously last year it happened with Strider and now with Ronaldo.

507
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 2: And I know, technically he's not out for the year,

508
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: but like you said, he he can't even pick up

509
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 2: a baby, can't even throw for three months, and then

510
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Speaker 2: once he starts throwing, assuming he gets cleared, which is

511
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: not a guarantee, then he's got to basically start over

512
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Speaker 2: his throwing program from the offseason. So it's gonna be

513
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Speaker 2: six more weeks after that probably before he's even potentially

514
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Speaker 2: ready to be in a major league game. And by

515
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Speaker 2: that point, I mean, the season is basically over. You know.

516
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Speaker 2: I think the only chance he has of pitching again

517
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Speaker 2: is maybe as a reliever in September. You know, I

518
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Speaker 2: saw some people suggesting that, you know, if they bring

519
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Speaker 2: him back as a reliever, then maybe it wasn't won't

520
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Speaker 2: take as long to ramp back up once if he

521
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Speaker 2: gets ready. That that's potentially true. But you know, if

522
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Speaker 2: you're the Braves, you can't count on him. It's like

523
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 2: you just said, It's like Joejamenez. You if you get

524
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Speaker 2: him in September, then that's just a bonus. And you

525
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 2: know that stinks. And we knew, listen, we knew something

526
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 2: was wrong. I mean, we knew something was you know,

527
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: when they said he was having a shoulder surgery, just

528
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Speaker 2: to kind of look and see if there's anything wrong.

529
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Speaker 2: Once they once they cut up in your shoulder, you're

530
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Speaker 2: gonna be out for three months. I mean, there was

531
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Speaker 2: just when the best case scenario is three months, you're

532
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 2: you're not in a good spot. So we kind of

533
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 2: knew this was coming quite frankly, and the news today

534
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Speaker 2: just kind of confirmed it. I know, there'll be about

535
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Speaker 2: you know, people, you know, optimistic you might be back,

536
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 2: you know, mid late September, maybe for the playoffs. Of course,

537
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: the Braves have to have to actually make the make

538
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 2: the playoffs for that to matter. But yeah, it sucks,

539
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 2: and listen, that's a big hole. That's a big hole

540
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Speaker 2: in the rotation. You know, fans don't need us to

541
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Speaker 2: remind them that the Braves did not add anybody to

542
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Speaker 2: the rotation this offseason and now they're down Ronaldo for

543
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: pretty much the whole season. And so you know, They're

544
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 2: to a situation now where they need Strider like they

545
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 2: need Spencer Streider. It's not just a bonus to have him,

546
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Speaker 2: they absolutely need him, and they need Chris Sale, and

547
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Speaker 2: if anything happens to any of those guys, it's gonna

548
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 2: get dicey quickly. You know. Aj Smith Schalver still doesn't

549
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: look fully ready. I think Scott said on the last

550
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Speaker 2: show that he's probably best if he was in Triple A.

551
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: He just he still needs to fine tune his command

552
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 2: a little bit. But the Braves can't afford him to

553
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Speaker 2: be in triple A right now because they need him

554
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Speaker 2: in the rotation. And so, you know, I think Strider's

555
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Speaker 2: gonna Strider's making a one more rehab starting Gwinette on Thursday.

556
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Speaker 2: All in the Kichens are he's gonna be up after that,

557
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: which is fantastic news. But the Braves need Sale to

558
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: get right, they need Strider to stay healthy. They ed

559
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Speaker 2: swallenback to continue what he's doing because Ronaldo Lopez is

560
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: effectively done for the year, and I think even if

561
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Speaker 2: he does come back, it's not going to be as

562
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Speaker 2: a starter, at least not in twenty twenty five. And

563
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 2: that's a bummer not only on the field, but the

564
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: Braves gave Ronaldo Lopez an extension. You know, they bumped

565
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 2: up an extra year on his contract to save a

566
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Speaker 2: little money. So the Braves still owe him for three

567
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Speaker 2: more years at like thirty million bucks after this season.

568
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: So that's not good when the guy's already dealing with

569
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Speaker 2: shoulder stuff. So it was just, yeah, not great, not

570
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 2: good news. But we knew, we kind of knew it

571
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Speaker 2: was coming. It wasn't exactly a shock.

572
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Speaker 1: And as we've discussed, you know, with the fact that

573
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Speaker 1: the Braves you know, continue to you know, get this

574
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Speaker 1: news where you know, they lost Jerks and Profer obviously

575
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Speaker 1: for the first half of the year. They've now lost

576
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Speaker 1: Fernaldo Lopez. You know, one thing that could happen is

577
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Speaker 1: we could see a bit more frequent movement when it

578
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Speaker 1: came to adding to the roster as the season goes along.

579
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Speaker 1: That occurred on Tuesday when it came to the addition

580
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Speaker 1: of a notable reliever. We'll discuss that in just a moment.

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Speaker 3: After this word from our partners, AJ.

582
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Speaker 5: It is time for people to get some new clubs,

583
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Speaker 5: and to do that they need to go to their

584
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Speaker 5: local PXG for a fitting right.

585
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Speaker 6: No doubt. I was there today. I've been there before.

586
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Speaker 6: Last time I was there, they gave me this killer gapage.

587
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 6: Look at that sweet spot, Scott, it is worn out.

588
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 6: That is right in the sweet spot right there. So

589
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 6: I went and got new clubs today, new irons. But

590
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 6: more importantly, I got this bad boy. I got me

591
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Speaker 6: a new putter. This is my old putter.

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Speaker 1: It's on order.

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594
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Speaker 6: going to the Allen putter. They talked me into it

595
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Speaker 6: because I was draining some putts today. Bob, the guy

596
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 6: who helped me out. He helped me with my irons.

597
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Speaker 6: He got them teed up perfectly. But then we went

598
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Speaker 6: to the putt and green. I was draining them putts

599
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Speaker 6: because that's the most important part of golf.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the name that we are talking about when

608
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Speaker 1: it comes to the Braves again, we've seen many of

609
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Speaker 1: these veteran names be added by the Braves over the

610
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Speaker 1: past couple weeks as they kind of filled some depth

611
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Speaker 1: when it came to the roster. Well, the latest name

612
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: was a trade today between the Braves and the Astros.

613
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Speaker 1: You know, so much has been talked about the Braves

614
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Speaker 1: and the Angels making trades because param and Iason, a

615
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: former member of the Braves front office, is in Anaheim. Well,

616
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Speaker 1: Dana Brown, former member of the Braves front office, is

617
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Speaker 1: in Houston. The Braves today acquired veteran reliever Rafael Montero

618
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Speaker 1: from the Astros with cash for a player to be

619
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Speaker 1: named later. Now, when you look at Rafael Montero, you

620
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Speaker 1: look at his contract and you see eleven point five million,

621
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Speaker 1: you kind of think, Okay, why are the Braves adding

622
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Speaker 1: this expensive of a player in the season, especially one

623
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Speaker 1: that has struggled throughout his most recent contract. Why are

624
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Speaker 1: they adding that type of level of contract when they.

625
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Speaker 3: Seem to be limited in the offseason.

626
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Speaker 1: Well, then you get to realize and in the details,

627
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: the Astros are basically paying for the majority of his salary.

628
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Speaker 1: But Steven, I think that's what stands out. Rafiel Montero,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure, is a name that many fans in Braves

630
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: Country have heard before he came up with the Mets organization.

631
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Speaker 1: He had a pretty big year all the way back

632
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, led to a three year, basically

633
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: ten mil per year deal, but since then he has struggled.

634
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Speaker 1: To me, Steven, what this stands out for is this

635
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: is a name that has success in the past. Can

636
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Speaker 1: the Braves once again worked their magic and maybe help

637
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Speaker 1: him reclaim some value like they've done with so many

638
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: relievers during the alex and Popolos era.

639
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean when it came across the wire, that

640
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: was kind of the first thing I thought is I

641
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Speaker 2: knew he had signed that thirty million dollar contract, and

642
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Speaker 2: so the first thing I went and looked at was

643
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Speaker 2: how much money he's still owed. And then I was

644
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Speaker 2: trying to figure out how much the money the Astros

645
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Speaker 2: are paying down, because they had to be paying down

646
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Speaker 2: something as bad as he's been the last two years.

647
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Speaker 2: And yeah, it came out that they're paying most of

648
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Speaker 2: the money. So the Braves are not paying him eleven

649
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: million dollars this year. We don't have the exact number,

650
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: but it's probably like two million or something like that.

651
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: The Bridves are on the hook for. But listen, he's

652
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Speaker 2: a reliever. He's been a reliever Houston's organization in the

653
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Speaker 2: last few years. I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. The last

654
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: two years have not been good. You know. He's pitched

655
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 2: about about one hundred innings one hundred and five innings

656
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: out of Houston's bullpen in the last two years. His

657
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: era is around five, his FIP is around five. He

658
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: still throws very hard. He averages like ninety six miles

659
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: an hour in his fastball, so he can hit ninety eight.

660
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: He gives up a ton of homers. He gives up

661
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: so many homers, gives up a lot of barrels, like like,

662
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: it's obviously a fastball that hit her see pretty well.

663
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: So the Braves are, you know, he has kind of

664
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Speaker 2: introduced a splitter to his repertoire. I'm sure it's what

665
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: the Braves are interested in. They think they can probably

666
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Speaker 2: use that, you know, increase his production level. We'll see.

667
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: I mean, the Braves are, you know, again, I don't

668
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: have to remind fans that the Braves did not add

669
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Speaker 2: any notable relievers this offseason, so they've spent the early

670
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: part of the season just kind of rotating in random names, right,

671
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 2: Hector Nerris, Craig Krimble is gonna come up at some point.

672
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: You know, they've just added Zach Thompson, Jose Suarez, you know,

673
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Speaker 2: now Montero and so you know, the Braves are just

674
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Speaker 2: trying anything basically because they didn't do a lot in

675
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Speaker 2: the off season. I don't I mean, I don't understand

676
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: why they didn't do more in the off season. Everybody

677
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: kind of saw this coming that they you know, that

678
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: they were gonna need more relievers, and now they're here

679
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: at the first two weeks of the year and they're

680
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: already having to play musical chairs with the bullpen because

681
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 2: you know, they don't have enough production down there. But

682
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: that's what they're trying to do. They're just trying to

683
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: get it, you know, lightning in a bottle. That it's

684
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: not gonna cost them. You know, the Astros are paying

685
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Speaker 2: most of the salary. It's a player to be named later,

686
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Speaker 2: so it's probably not gonna be anybody significant out of

687
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: the system. It's just a guy they're hoping can you know,

688
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: rekindle some of his form from a few years ago

689
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: when he was a pretty good reliever. He's still not that.

690
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: I mean, he's thirty four, he's not it's not like

691
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 2: he's forty years old. Still throws hard, does have the

692
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Speaker 2: splitter now, which you can dream on a little bit.

693
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Speaker 2: So we'll see. The guys he's replacing aren't exactly great either.

694
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Speaker 2: So it's not like you're caught. You know, you're risking

695
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Speaker 2: a lot here, but it is a notable name. It's

696
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Speaker 2: a it's you know, a name that you're familiar with

697
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Speaker 2: at least, and we'll see. I'm guessing he's gonna be

698
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Speaker 2: on the roster pretty soon. He was on Houston's twenty

699
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Speaker 2: six man roster, so I'm guessing he's gonna be on

700
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Speaker 2: the Braves as well. Somebody would get dfaed or optioned,

701
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Speaker 2: and he'll probably be in the you know, on the

702
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Speaker 2: team either tomorrow or Thursday. But yeah, just a name,

703
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: just a name that they're trying out. And there'll probably

704
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Speaker 2: be a number of these guys throughout the summer until

705
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Speaker 2: we get closer to the trade deadline and some actual

706
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Speaker 2: like notable relievers can be traded for.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and you know, let's talk about the

708
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Speaker 1: bullpen of it, because the bullpen overall has Hector Harris

709
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Speaker 1: obviously had you know, his his struggles. Of course, I

710
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Speaker 1: still will say, right, so Iglesias, how Brian Snicker used

711
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Speaker 1: him in that last game of the Dodgers series, I

712
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Speaker 1: was perfectly fine with he just imploded. You know, you

713
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Speaker 1: can't plan for that if you're Brian Sticker.

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Speaker 3: Tonight he was fine.

715
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Speaker 1: But how about shouts out to this Braves bullpen, you know,

716
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Speaker 1: and Yo, Deylass has had some really good outings to

717
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Speaker 1: start off the year, Das Boil, Hernandez had a huge

718
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Speaker 1: performance tonight. He's had a decent start to the season.

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Speaker 1: Dylan Lee is nails as always. But now you start

720
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Speaker 1: to look at the fact that overall this bullpen's done

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Speaker 1: pretty well, and now you get into okay, maybe at

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Speaker 1: some point in the future, Stephen Ryce, so Iglesias, Pierce Johnson,

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Speaker 1: Dlus Santos, Days Ball, Hernandez, Raffia Montero, Craig Kimbrel.

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Speaker 3: You've got some good names there.

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Speaker 1: Again, probably some names that are past their primes, but

726
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Speaker 1: some notable names who have had success in recent years,

727
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: a bit better probably when it came to name value

728
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Speaker 1: than we thought it would be a few weeks ago.

729
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Speaker 1: But overall, this phrase bullpen has done pretty well so far,

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Speaker 1: I feel in the general scheme of things, and they've

731
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Speaker 1: got some reinforcements now again maybe not all they're reliable,

732
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Speaker 1: but some stuff to work with. I think the Brase

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Speaker 1: bullpen overall is in a pretty decent position considering where

734
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Speaker 1: we started off the season, as especially that first game

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Speaker 1: of the year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what was notable to me was

737
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Speaker 2: that in the big spot tonight. You know, Dylan Lee

738
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Speaker 2: came in and he got the first two outs. I

739
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Speaker 2: think he got Harper and Alex Baum after the Braves

740
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Speaker 2: had taken the lead, and and then he walked Shoreber

741
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Speaker 2: and there was a right hander coming up, and obviously

742
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Speaker 2: they took Dylan Lee out, and I was sure they

743
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Speaker 2: were bringing Pierce Johnson in, but that's not who they

744
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 2: brought in. They brought in days Bill Hernandez and das

745
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 2: Bell looked fantastic and he was throwing ninety eight ninety nine.

746
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Speaker 2: He was blowing guys away, and you know, I still

747
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 2: don't understand how Dasbell wasn't used on opening Day. How

748
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 2: Hector Nerris was given that opportunity when Pierce Johnson and

749
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Speaker 2: Dazebell were both available, I think it cost him a

750
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Speaker 2: win there probably you know, who knows how the season

751
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Speaker 2: goes if they if they win that first game and

752
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Speaker 2: get it out of the way, you know, the first

753
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: game of the year. But you know, we're not gonna

754
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 2: harp on that all year. But yeah, the fact that

755
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 2: Dazebell came in tonight in that big spot I gainst

756
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: alrighty was notable to me before period. I don't think

757
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 2: Peter Johnson pitched at all. So they have the potential,

758
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 2: they don't have a lot of proven I mean, you know,

759
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: the guys that they have that are the names you

760
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: know are probably past their prime. The guys that are

761
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Speaker 2: in their prime are probably the names you don't know.

762
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Speaker 2: And so you know, you're kind of dealing with uncertainty

763
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: on one end, or you're dealing with guys past their

764
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: prime on the other end. It can work. I mean, listen,

765
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 2: bullpens are so volatile it can work. Day's Bill tonight. Certainly,

766
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Speaker 2: look the part Dylan Lee is very good. Uh, Dla

767
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 2: Santos has been good. They're gonna They're gonna add Kimberl

768
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: at some point. Obviously they just traded from Montero. So,

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00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: you know, bullpens are weird, and I'm sure that I'm

770
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 2: sure our reliever will be on Alex's wishless you know,

771
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: as the season progresses. But you know, the reason they've

772
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: lost games so far has really been the offense. I mean,

773
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 2: let's be honest. So the bullpen, aside from Game one,

774
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Speaker 2: which is the one everybody remembers, the bullpen really hasn't

775
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: been that bad. There's been a you know, they blew

776
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: up that one game where Rossiel blew up, but that's

777
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 2: gonna happen. So yeah, I mean, you really, I'm not

778
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 2: expecting a lot from Montero. I'm not expecting a lot

779
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 2: from kimberrel but you know, relievers are weird. Bullpens are weird,

780
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 2: and anything can happen. Day's Bell tonight was the story

781
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: for me, the fact that he came in instead of

782
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 2: Pierce Johnson. I think they're finally starting to trust Day's

783
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: Bell on high leverage, which I don't think they were

784
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 2: willing to do an opening day. So that's good to

785
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 2: see because Daves Bell really does have really good stuff.

786
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: That fastball slider combo is nasty as hell, and you

787
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: know he looked awesome tonight, and that's big. That's a big,

788
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 2: big piece for the Braves.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, we're gonna talk about a couple of other pieces

790
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Speaker 1: when it comes to organizational death for the Braves. Plus

791
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Speaker 1: are looking further at the rest of the series against

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Speaker 1: the Phillies.

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Speaker 3: After our one last message from our partners, a.

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Speaker 2: Band watcher than not be eyes. I'm just gonna they have.

795
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Speaker 3: Through.

796
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Speaker 2: They know when it's a shame.

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Speaker 1: Streamer, Steven, that had a little that that gems a

798
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Speaker 1: little snazzy there, I'm showing my age, you know, show

799
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Speaker 1: them saying snazzy. I'll let the listeners decide. The viewers

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Speaker 1: decide which one of us was dancing during that latest ad.

801
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Speaker 1: When it came to Fandel, it was me. It was me, Stephen, Stephen,

802
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm you're a professional dancer, you know.

803
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Speaker 3: In in his off time.

804
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Speaker 1: But when it comes to the Braves again, make sure

805
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: you check out Fandel and all the great information on

806
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: how you can watch the Braves. But the big thing

807
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: about this team right now, Steven, is that as we're

808
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: continuing to see we talk about all these parts that

809
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: are coming, parts that could be added. It's very important

810
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Speaker 1: not to not only keep up with the Braves, but

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Speaker 1: also keep up with gett. You know, people were joking

812
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: that our Triple A team, the Gwenet Strippers, it could

813
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: be one of the better Triple A teams overall because

814
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: of quality with all these veterans, and and depth signing

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Speaker 1: that we had had towards the end of spring training,

816
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: and a couple of notable performances tonight in Gwinnette. Alex

817
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: Verdugo went deep for the Stripers. James McCann I believe

818
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: in his debut for the Stripers he had an RBI single.

819
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know how much McCann's going to contribute

820
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: with the fact that both Baldwin and Murphy are right

821
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: now in Atlanta. But Verdugo, it's good to see he

822
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: was able to take a breaking ball kind of very

823
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: much like Jared Kelnick took that breaking ball from Dylan

824
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: season the second game of the season and put it

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Speaker 1: into the right field bleachers, or Verdugo had a similar

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Speaker 1: at bat. The thing that stands out to me is

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Speaker 1: that you know, we talked about, you know, Kelnick Stephen

828
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Speaker 1: coming into you know, this series against Philadelphia, and how

829
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Speaker 1: if he really didn't pick it up, Verdugo's right there

830
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Speaker 1: as a sensible option to potentially replace him. But tonight,

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Speaker 1: hats off to Jared Kelnick. He had three walks. I

832
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Speaker 1: believe it was only the first second time that he

833
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: had had three walks in a game in his career.

834
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Speaker 1: But three walks for him, Alex Verdugo had a good night.

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Speaker 1: The thing that I'm getting at is you hinted at

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Speaker 1: this a few episodes that we did ago, I think

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Speaker 1: a week or so ago. The fact that we talked about, well,

838
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Speaker 1: Verdugo could be an option to come in and replace

839
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Speaker 1: Kelnick if he continued to struggle. But Brian de la

840
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: Cruz and Stuart Fairchild, it probably makes sense to have

841
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: more left handed right outfielders right now than right handed

842
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 1: hitting outfielders. It's not necessarily a foregone conclusion that Verdugo

843
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: could eventually replace dal la Cruz or Fairchild as well.

844
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Speaker 1: But the big key is it's good to see Verdugo

845
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Speaker 1: having success in Gwinnett.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, before profar is suspension, you know, we were trying

847
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Speaker 2: to figure out how Verdugo and Kelnick both fit on

848
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Speaker 2: the roster because they both you know, but they gave

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Speaker 2: Verdugo a major league deal in kel Nick's obviously on

850
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Speaker 2: the team already. Of course, now that Profar is out,

851
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Speaker 2: you can pretty easily just substitute Verdugo for a fair

852
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 2: Child or de la Cruz and probably be fine either way.

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing that's what they're gonna do. Before tonight, I

854
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 2: would have said Kelnick had a good chance of going down.

855
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 2: But to you know, Kelnick got his best game in

856
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 2: a long long time tonight. Three walks, a single, h

857
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 2: had a really good, uh sliding catch in the ninth,

858
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: just a really good game. He just looked like a

859
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 2: kind of the the athlete, the you know, the top

860
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: prospect that he was. Now he's got to keep doing it.

861
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 2: You know, one game is not gonna matter in this

862
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 2: scheme of things. But I still think Ardugo is gonna

863
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 2: come up pretty soon as soon as they feel he's ready.

864
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: To obviously hit a home run tonight for Colinette, so

865
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: that helps a lot, But they're just gonna want more options,

866
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 2: more depth. Day La Cruz hasn't really done much, you know.

867
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 2: Fairchild is a kind of a fifth, sixth outfielder type.

868
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: So and again they gave Ridugo a major league contract

869
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: and gave him real money, so I'm guessing he's gonna

870
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: come up pretty soon. McCann is just organizational depth.

871
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 5: You know.

872
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 2: Obviously Chad with Chadwick, Trump elected free agency when they

873
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 2: made the move for Murphy, so you know, they just

874
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 2: wanted more catching depth in the organization. And you know,

875
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: he could come up at some point if there's an

876
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 2: injury to Baldwin. I think Baldwin's gonna be up for

877
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 2: a while, so, which is good. I think that's how

878
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: it should be. But yeah, it's good. It's good to have.

879
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 2: I mean, like the Braves don't have a bunch of

880
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 2: top prospects at at triple A or double A, especially

881
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: position players, so you know, that's why it's kind of

882
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: good to have these guys. And I'm guessing Rdugo is

883
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: gonna be up pretty soon. But really, good night, we

884
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 2: need to give Jared kelnik his flowers. Really good night

885
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: from Jared Kellning more knights like that, And you know,

886
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: I feel bad because we kind of we kind of

887
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: crap on Kilninick a lot, but he's just been so

888
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 2: bad for so long, Like you know, it's we have

889
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 2: to be honest about it. We can't just sugarcoat it.

890
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 2: He's been bad, but tonight he was great, and I

891
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: would love to see more nights like that, more patience.

892
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 2: He took some really close pitches against Zach Wheeler, one

893
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 2: of the best pitches on the planet. Like, do more

894
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 2: of that, Give me more of that, and I'll stop

895
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 2: talking about Alex Radugo and left field and all the problems.

896
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: Like it was just a great game for him tonight

897
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: and it helped a lot, you know, So it's good

898
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 2: to see. I still think Dugo is gonna come up

899
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 2: at some point and they're probably gonna split time. But yeah,

900
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: it's good to have depth. It's good to have.

901
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: Options, absolutely, and it's going to be very interesting to

902
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: see kind of how that positions itself, especially as we

903
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: get closer to Ronald Acunie Junior eventually returning probably sometime

904
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: I would say, within the next thirty to forty five days.

905
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: One note from discussion prior in the podcast that we

906
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: do want to cover. It looks like that more is

907
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: coming out about the Rafael Monteriro trade. It seems as

908
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: if the Astros are going to send around seven point

909
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: six seven point seven million in the deal. That would

910
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: put the Braves basically at about three million that they'll

911
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: oh Montero. So of the around eleven point two or

912
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: so mean that's left to pay Montero this season, seven

913
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: point seven coming from the Astros, probably around three men

914
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: and maybe a little bit more coming from the Braves.

915
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: So that's kind of how the split will happen when

916
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: it comes to what Rafael Montero is owed for the

917
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: rest of the season. But Stephen again, you know, the

918
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: fun of the early season, especially when you struggle, is

919
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: that one game can change the perspectable things into, you know,

920
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: going from kind of you know, the doldrums, you know,

921
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 1: kind of be in depressing to a bit more encouraging.

922
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: And I want to you know, put the spotlight on

923
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: that as we wrap this edition in the Hammer Territory podcast. So,

924
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: you just had Chris sil versus Zach Wheeler, you just

925
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: had the best arm you were gonna face of the

926
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: Phillies this series and you won that game. Tomorrow you've

927
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: got Grant Holmes versus Tylan Walker. I think that those

928
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: are pretty you know, on pretty much on the same basis.

929
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: I think the Braves can find success against Walker, and

930
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: then on Thursday you've got Spencer Swellenbach, who's looked like

931
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: one of the best pitchers in baseball so far this

932
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: year against Hayesus Lozzardo, who in his own right has

933
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: looked like a great acquisition from the Phillies. But I

934
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 1: think if through the Braves you could easily commit to yourself,

935
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: you have to feel pretty good about the starting pitching matchups.

936
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: Where each of these for next two games and you've

937
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: already won game one, Stephen, the Braves are in a

938
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: very good position to get this series win against the Phillies,

939
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: and then after that you've got four straight series against

940
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: teams that on paper you probably are better than the Braves.

941
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: Though again, need to take it one game at a time,

942
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: but it cannot go understated, especially backing sail to night

943
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: where he didn't have his best stuff, how huge this

944
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: win was and how good of a position it puts

945
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: the Braves in, not only for this series but this

946
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: week as well.

947
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, on paper, you feel good, right, Wheeler

948
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: is the best pitcher they haven't. You're missing Aaron Nola,

949
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 2: You're missing Sanchez. You know, you get Lozardo and you

950
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: get Taylan Walker the next two nights. The problem is

951
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 2: the Braves offense has disappeared against bad pitching this year,

952
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: and I don't know why. So you know, I don't

953
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 2: want to count my chickens, but you're in a good spot.

954
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 2: You need to win this series. You haven't won a

955
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: series yet this season. You need to win the series.

956
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 2: You need to win tomorrow and then go for the sweep.

957
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 2: It's still early enough for the Braves don't have to, like,

958
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 2: you know, they don't have to start sweeping everybody to

959
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 2: get back in this if they just win series. I

960
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 2: mean every series you win, you're one game over five

961
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 2: hundred for that series, obviously, and if it's a four

962
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 2: game series, in your two games over five hundred so

963
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: or three games over five hundred. So every series that

964
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 2: you win you can take. You can kind of take

965
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: a chunk out of this deficit that you've built yourself.

966
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: And if you keep doing that, by like May, you'll

967
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 2: be back to five hundred and then you can keep

968
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: going from there. So the Braves don't have to roll

969
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: off like fifteen straight wins to get back in this thing.

970
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: They can just win series and be fine. But the

971
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 2: offense has got to stay consistent. It can't go to

972
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: sleep against bad pitching like it did against Cal Quantrell

973
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 2: on Saturday against the Marlins where they got shut out.

974
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: I'veter scoring ten runs the night before. That's the stuff

975
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: that drives people crazy. So, yeah, you beat Zach Wheeler great.

976
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: Now come out tomorrow against a much less pitcher, a

977
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 2: much worse pitcher, and do the same thing. Put up

978
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: good at bats, don't beat yourself, don't swing it junk

979
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: and allow them to get you know, through five innings

980
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 2: on sixty pitches and no runs. That's the kind of

981
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 2: crap that the Braves have done the last eighteen months

982
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 2: that are so frustrating. So just keep doing it. Keep

983
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 2: doing what you did night good at bats and for

984
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: good at bats. You know, the Braves didn't even you know,

985
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 2: they were three for thirteen with runners in score position.

986
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 2: It's not like they crushed it with runners in scorpises,

987
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 2: but they just gave themselves so many opportunities. Eleven hits,

988
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 2: six walks. You know, you don't have to be great

989
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 2: with the runners in score position if you give yourself

990
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: multiple chances every inning, and so that's what they need

991
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: to do. Just keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going,

992
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: build some momentum. You know, Strider's gonna come back soon.

993
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: Acunya is gonna come back soon. There are reinforcements coming.

994
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: But build on this big, big win tonight, come back

995
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 2: win against one of the best pictures on the planet.

996
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 2: And but you don't want to have happened is just

997
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: a huge letdown tomorrow where you get shut out by

998
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 2: a terrible picture. All due respect to Taylan Walker, he's

999
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 2: been terrible since he signed that big contract with the

1000
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 2: Phillies the Braves. The Braves need to beat up on

1001
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: him tomorrow. And you know their their offense, the Phillies

1002
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: offense is very good. They're probably gonna score on Grand

1003
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: Homes a little bit. So the offense needs to show

1004
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: up tomorrow and go win a game and then give

1005
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 2: Schwallenbach at chance to sweep them on Thursday. That's that's

1006
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 2: the game plan. And I just want the offense to

1007
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 2: show up tomorrow two games in a row. We haven't

1008
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: seen that yet. Two games in a row of really good,

1009
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: consistent at bats, good offense, and then go from there.

1010
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 1: Absolutely and hey, once we get that third win, once

1011
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: we get that fourth win, hey, those those teams who

1012
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: have had those certain starts in MLB history. You start

1013
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 1: to exponentially see those team, our playoff chances start to increase.

1014
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 1: But no, the big thing for this team. You know again,

1015
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: I could sit here and talk about you know how.

1016
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: You know, another win puts us in a better position,

1017
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: another one in a better position. Just take it one

1018
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: game at a time. You just beat Zach Wheeler. You

1019
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: were able to do it without Chris Sell having his

1020
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: best s up, and you were able to do it

1021
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: with the complete offensive performance. Put together back to back

1022
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: games like that. See what the results will be and

1023
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: that could really be the boost that you need to

1024
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: kind of start turning this season around. Steven, anything else

1025
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: that you have for us as we wrap up this

1026
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 1: edition on the Hammer Territory podcast.

1027
00:48:58,680 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: No, it's good to be back. It's good to be

1028
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 2: back in the saddle. Listen. College basketball is over. It

1029
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 2: is officially. It's nothing but baseball for a long time,

1030
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 2: and so we are all baseball all the time, and

1031
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 2: it would help us a lot if the Braves would

1032
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 2: start winning some games and getting some excitement and energy

1033
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 2: back in the fan base, so it's not all doom

1034
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: and gloom all the time. That stuff gets so old.

1035
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 2: We do not like doing negative podcast. I was so

1036
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 2: excited that I got to do a win yeah podcast

1037
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 2: after a win tonight. That was awesome. More of that,

1038
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 2: more and more wins, more fun exciting games, and we

1039
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 2: can get this ball rolling and get into the summer

1040
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: months with some fun baseball.

1041
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 1: Absolutely and also want to spin send a special shout

1042
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: out to our listeners, to our viewers as well, some

1043
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: great overall participation when it came to the Attorney bracket

1044
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: that we did with Hammer Territory. A lot of really

1045
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: smart people had some awesome showings when it came to

1046
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: the Turney bracket. Wonder Congrats the SEC for having a

1047
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: national title come to the conference. I'm not going to

1048
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: mention the team that word, but hey, you know what,

1049
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: congratulations to them their fan base and you know who

1050
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: are also Brais fans. But all joking aside, it was

1051
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: awesome to see the participation in that. Again, congrats to

1052
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: all of the top performers when it came to the

1053
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: Attorney for the Hammer Territory Tourney bracket. But speaking of

1054
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: Hammer Territory, make sure you follow myself at Stat's sac

1055
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 1: on Twitter as well as Brad Roland Scott Coleman, Steven

1056
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: Talbert at b Underscore, outliers on Twitter as well, Hammer

1057
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: Territory across all forms of social network the part of

1058
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: the Foul Territory family of podcasts.

1059
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 3: Listen.

1060
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 1: You can get the perspective of us from this win

1061
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: for the Braids. You can get this perspective from the

1062
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: Phillies coverage from the Phillies show, from their perspective on

1063
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 1: this game as well. So many great shows to be

1064
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: able to watch, to watch and listen to under the

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Speaker 1: umbrella of the Foul Territory Network. Make sure you check

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Speaker 1: it all out. For Steven Toboro, my name is Sean Coleman.

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Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure as always. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: again soon. Go Braids, We'll talk to you again soon

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Speaker 1: here on the Hammer Territory podcast