1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: It is Monday of week four, and this is part 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: two of the Insiders podcast. We've got a QR code 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: up there in the left hand portion of the screen. 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: You can scan that to find us on YouTube. And 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: here's where you find us throughout the week. This is 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: podcast day Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, we're back on NFL Network. 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: Thursday you can find us on NFL plug. We can 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: find us in NFL Plus pretty much every day, the 9 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: NFL channel on YouTube. And then Friday back to get 10 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: you set for the weekend in the NFL on NFL 11 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: Network and right down there at the bottom wherever you 12 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: can find your podcast, this is where you can find 13 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 1: this here as well. Ian Rapaport back with me. Mike 14 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: Arra follow as we wrap up the front part of 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: the weekend. We still have Monday Night football to come 16 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: here in week four, but we wrap up a lot 17 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: of texts the weekend that was a lot of text 18 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: is a lot of news. So nom the metabk, the 19 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: Ravens defensive tackle. Again, I keep saying that like maybe 20 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: the casual, casual fan doesn't know who he is. 21 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: No, I know a lot of people do not know 22 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: who he is. 23 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: If you don't know, first of all, I made this 24 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: case on Good Morning Football the other day after they 25 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: lost to the Lions. He makes twenty four million dollars 26 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: a year and it's probably not enough. But this being said, 27 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: he does have any neck injury that is going to 28 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: knock him out for the rest of the season. John 29 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: Harball saying that today just an enormous loss there for 30 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: the Ravens because you saw the impact or the impact 31 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: of him not being there against Detroit and this past 32 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: weekend against Kansas City. So the Ravens maybe as they 33 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: get closer to the trade deadline, look for some help 34 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: at the defensive tackle position. We shall see, but there's 35 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: just no replacing that guy. Ian. Let's get to the 36 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: Giants here, because game one of the Jackson Dart era. 37 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: We talked about it last week. We expected him to 38 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: provide a spark to this team. He did just that. 39 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: I am now seeing the reaction to it, which was, 40 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: this is not sustainable. He's going to get hurt. He's 41 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: running too much. Look, the bottom line was, and we 42 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: mentioned this, his legs and being able to create with 43 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: his legs was a big part of their decision to 44 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: say we can go with him now because we don't 45 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: have to put him in spread formations and have him 46 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: throwing the ball down the field and throwing the ball 47 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: forty times a game. We knew this was going to 48 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: be part of it. He did that, and he did 49 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: a nice job in Game one to get the Giants 50 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: off to an upset victory. 51 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 2: A couple of things there. 52 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 3: First of all, you know, we were on air all 53 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: week talking about like, you know, the spark that the 54 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: Giants want and like the good you know, you were saying, 55 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 3: you know, there was like a lot. 56 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: Of juice in the locker room. That's cool for us 57 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: to say. You can really see it on the field, 58 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: Like that was all pretty real, you know, And I 59 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: thought that was cool. I mean, this is like, you know, 60 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: as a young dude running around like. 61 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: He's fast, he's a good athlete. 62 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: I thought that was, you know. 63 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: Sort of exactly the juice that the Giants were looking for. 64 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 3: The dance, I have some questions about maybe that's something 65 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 3: the kids do. I'm certainly older than Jackson Dart, so 66 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: maybe I'll ask my children about that dance and what 67 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: that was. 68 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: I don't think him running is a problem. Two things. 69 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 3: One, I'm not convinced that a quarterback sitting back in 70 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: the pocket is any safer than a quarterback running. The 71 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 3: argument being you get hit from the back or the 72 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 3: side versus seeing people coming and being able to prepare 73 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 3: for it. So I will argue that running quarterbacks are 74 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 3: just as much in danger or whatever then guys who 75 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 3: sit back and just drop back. But really, like him 76 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 3: opening up the entire offense for the Giants was so noticeable, 77 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: like Russ through the ball. Fine, you know obviously didn't 78 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: play well enough to not get benched, but this is 79 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: exactly what they needed in Yes, like losing the league, 80 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 3: neighbors hurts, and I saw you shaking your head when 81 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: I was talking about the potential positives to that. You 82 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: can argue with me if you want right now, but 83 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 3: there are some positives to forcing him to read the offense, 84 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: go through it, go through his progression, figure it out, 85 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: and whatever happens to the Giants this year, every many 86 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 3: wins they get, clearly had it in a better direction 87 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 3: now than they were last week. 88 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was in part one of the podcasts. You 89 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: were talking about how this may be better for Jackson 90 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: Dark because he's got to learn to run an offense 91 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: and not rely upon listen the Giants years ago traded 92 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: away Odell Beckham and tried to make the case this 93 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: is gonna make us. Remember you broke that, we're gonna 94 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: run We're gonna run our offense the way if you 95 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: broke that. 96 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: I remember you broke it, and I was so happy 97 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 2: for you, but also so mad because I wasn't included 98 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: in it because I went to go vote at a 99 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 2: local election and then you broke the trade while I 100 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: was voting for the local. 101 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: Voting in May. Your story doesn't check out. You vote November. 102 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: It it was in May primary. 103 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: No, it was March. It was traded in May. 104 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: May. I'm at March whatever. It's not November usually that's 105 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: where elections take place. But if it was a primary 106 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: or something, I get it. But I remember the story 107 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: coming out of it's gonna make us a better offense. 108 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to run it the way like we're 109 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: not just forcing the ball to one Jackson Dark could 110 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: use Molaie neighborsut there, because right now it's gonna be 111 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: Wondale Robinson. I got it Line Target and a friend 112 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: of yours that you met the Derby. You're gonna mention 113 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: it so I might as well do it before you 114 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: do it. Matter of fact, you sent a picture back 115 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: to me and were like, but you don't know who 116 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: this is? And I was like, that's Wandale Robinson and 117 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna get to see him a lot more Giants 118 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: fans and fans around the NFL because surely he'll be 119 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: thrust into a bigger role alongside Darius Slayton. Maybe you know, 120 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: is there a free agent option or a trade op? 121 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: Jalen Hyatt also a little more Jalen Hyatt. 122 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: All hi it too. The problem is that at this point, 123 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: if you're a free agent, I don't think we're still 124 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: despite winning yesterday, we're not expecting the Giants to go 125 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: to the playoffs? Like is this the team that you 126 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: want to go to or is it gonna be one 127 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: where you have a chance to win? And then would 128 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: the Giants make a trade for a guy in season 129 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: and use capital that they could use down the line 130 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: to build around him, Like there's a lot that goes 131 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: into it, but you want guys around Jackson Dart and 132 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: they still have talented, skilled players at the tight end 133 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: position and in the backfield as well. So we'll see 134 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: how that's going to go for the Giants. It was 135 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: a or sweet victory. It's the vibe got out of 136 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: there was kind of like why can't we have nice 137 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: things like we get this victory. 138 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: I would say that sums it up. 139 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And it's like and Elik Neighbors get towards ACL. 140 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: So the good news is there's no it doesn't sound 141 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: like there's any other damage in the knee. It's a 142 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: clean tear. So long term, f Elie Neighbors, he'll be 143 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: back to full strength. 144 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 2: The Eagles, I. 145 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: Want to get to them because it's all about style 146 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: points for them. And here's to make any sense, not 147 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: to me. And I did make the case and I 148 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: still believe this, and yesterday was part of it. That 149 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: the way their games have gone early in the season, 150 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts specifically has played the game and quarterback the 151 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: position and made decisions whether to throw or not throw footballs, 152 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: and he didn't throw any of them in the second 153 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: where they didn't complete anything the second half, I should 154 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: say zero passing yards whatever it was. That's the set 155 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: I was going for based on like what do we 156 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: have to do to win this game? And there was 157 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: a game in Kansas City. It was a tightly contested, 158 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: defensive game, and they said, we're not gonna make any 159 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: mistakes here. So he and they called it that way. 160 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: They needed to have a comeback against the Rams, needed 161 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: to start airing it out and throw some fifty to 162 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: fifty balls. He did that and they had a great comeback, 163 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: and they went again this game against Tampa yesterday. They 164 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: put enough points on the board in the first half 165 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: that in the second half it was almost back to 166 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: that let's not screw this up type thing. 167 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: I don't argument is this is Sirianni coaching to win 168 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: rather than him caring about what it looks like. 169 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: Is yes, right? 170 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: And I think yes, And I think it's one, let's 171 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: do what we have to do to win. Two, it's 172 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: still early in the season. And yes, we haven't had 173 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: to really other than the Rams second half put ourselves 174 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: in a positiation position where we have to be more 175 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: of an explosive offense. We're okay with that. There were 176 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: also some fumbled kickoffs against the Rams early in the 177 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: game where they were like, oh man, we're backed up. 178 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: Let's not get stupid here. There's a lot going on here. 179 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: The problem is in Philadelphia. They remember two thousand or 180 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three when they won a lot of games 181 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,559 Speaker 1: early in the season and it was like, this isn't 182 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: passing the eye test. Now, that was more of a. 183 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: Defensive thing hours where they collapsed at the end and. 184 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: They and they changed both coordinators and then they won 185 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in twenty four So that was more 186 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: of a defensive thing that year, and then all of 187 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: a sudden, everything kind of fell off a cliff at 188 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: the end of the year. Offensive end, defensive. This is 189 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: a little bit different. The defense has been for the 190 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: most part, other than chunks of that gaming stay really good. 191 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: And in this case, the offense needs to come around. 192 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: AJ Brown's posting stuff on social media, which I was 193 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: just about to mention there they don't need that. There's 194 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: the post down the bottom, they don't need that. Like 195 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: he's got to stay locked. 196 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 2: In What does that even mean? 197 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: So it was a Bible a Bible verse. 198 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: He's not appreciated enough. 199 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: Yes, it was a it was a It was a 200 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: Bible verse. And there's a fuller context for what he's 201 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: trying to say. And he may he may come in 202 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: on Wednesday or Thursday and say, but I had nothing 203 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: to do with football or the offense. Don't care. Can't 204 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: put that out that after a game like that. Got 205 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: to understand the contest. 206 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: He will not say that he might. 207 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: He might if you're not welcomed. So this is a 208 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: whole Uh, this is the whole thing in the Bible. 209 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: Don't go to the gentiles of the Samerians, but only 210 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: to the people of Israel. Guys. Never mind, that's what 211 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: we're going down a rabbit hole there. 212 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: But you know this podcast for Bible analysis. This would 213 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 2: be that this is your time, Yes, right now is 214 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: your time. 215 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: And I would say I would say that in the 216 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: replies to his post, we're a lot of people like 217 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: there was one with the lighten up Francis meme uh, 218 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: and there was other people saying like we're four and zero. 219 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: We don't need you right now, we will need you 220 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: at some point. Stay folk like the fans were not 221 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: as much in his corner, and like, because I know 222 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: that they're loves in their minds over this offense and 223 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: they want this thing to be high flying and they 224 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: want to be throwing the football. So I went to 225 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: the replies, I'm like, let's see what and a lot 226 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: of people are like a J man, chill, we're four 227 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: and out, so that that part of the surprises. 228 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I don't know that anybody loves the 229 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 3: receiver who goes, yeah, I know we won, but I 230 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 3: only had this many catches. It's like, ah, Like, at 231 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 3: some point, it gets very tiresome. 232 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: The thing with AJ Brown is he's so good. He's 233 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: so good and. 234 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 3: So like I feel like he gets a little leeway 235 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 3: because he's so good and he's like really like a 236 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: pretty likable, pretty likable guy, even though he can get 237 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 3: frustrated pretty quickly. It seems I just can't believe that 238 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 3: the Eagles of four and oh and it feels. 239 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 2: Like they are zero in a million, and like there's 240 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: no other team that's like this. 241 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: Like when Kansas City starts out looking like not great 242 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: and then they get to two and two, everyone's like, ah, 243 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 3: Chiefs will be fine, Mahomes will do mahomes and they're 244 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 3: just gonna hang around and they'll be in the Super Bowl. 245 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 2: Eagles, It's like, man, that team is in trouble. 246 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: That offense they didn't get any passing yards in the 247 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 3: second half, and AJ's not and they are in trouble 248 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 3: and I'm like, they're four no, and physically they're about 249 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: as good as anyone. So you live and basically live 250 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 3: in that city, sort of you represent that city. 251 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: Certainly you can understand this better than I can. But man, 252 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 2: but I. 253 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: Stopped rooting for the team years ago when I entered 254 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: the media, and I just go back to I gotta 255 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: tell you, I would love a team that didn't have 256 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: the style points and was winning games over and over 257 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: when I was rooting for the Eagles in the early 258 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: nineties and close to the two thousands. So but now 259 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: you get a little spoiled. You got two Super Bowl 260 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: championships under your belt, you get a little bit spoiled 261 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: with it, and a lot of people are going to say, like, 262 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: this is the stuff that is going to come back 263 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: to bite you when you need it when you're playing 264 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: down the stretch, which is fine. I get that, but 265 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: it's also a time to figure out how do you 266 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: become that what are we not doing to get us 267 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: at that point? And I would also say, in this league, 268 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: you gotta win games a lot of different ways. Like 269 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: the Chiefs always have that game every so often where 270 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, we're just gonna run the ball for 271 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: two hundred yards like they did it in Buffalo one year, 272 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: think during the COVID year, and it was like the 273 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: Chiefs can just morph into that kind of team. The 274 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: Patriots for that kind of team week in week out, 275 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: drive in, drive out, they would show you a completely 276 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: different offense during the Josh McDaniels era and when they 277 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 1: were there were really coming. So I'm okay with winning 278 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: a game where you had to come from behind, winning 279 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: a game where you're holding on for dear life and 280 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: you got to make the decisions like these are the 281 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: kind of things that you need to do throughout the 282 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: course of the season to win some games. We shall 283 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: see if the Eagles turn it around, put enough points 284 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: on the board and enough yards in aj brown Stack 285 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: com to make everybody happy. 286 00:12:46,240 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 2: We'll be right back with more on the inside. 287 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Insiders uh the Monday of Week four, 288 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: as we continue to break down what happened in the NFL, 289 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: what we expect to happen in the NFL moving forward. 290 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: The Ravens now nom Di Matabike. We mentioned this the 291 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: latest news we knew he was on injury reserve. I mean, 292 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: this has been a slow trickle of he's not playing 293 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: this week, he's on IR he's out for the season. 294 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: You hope that's where it stops for a good young 295 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: player to make sure that he can come back and 296 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: play in the NFL once again and play for the Ravens. 297 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: But Kyle van Noy injured, Lamar Jackson was hurt. John 298 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: Harball not really providing much of an update in that regard. 299 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: Who'd I miss? They're they're they're they're, I mean, they're 300 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: they're really banged up at this point. You mentioned Marlon 301 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: Humphrey too, I believe as well Ian what he's dealing with. 302 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: You're one in three and it's like, okay, we knew 303 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: one of those teams after that game, Chiefs or Ravens 304 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: was going to be one and three. Uh, but it's 305 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: one in three and like, whoa, this is not right here, 306 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: This does not look right. There's a lot of injuries. 307 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: How much can they possibly overcome? Next week they have 308 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans at home, a team that really has 309 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: played them tough there before, they got the Rams at home, 310 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: and then a bye week, so this is a almost 311 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: got to go to and zero and get into the 312 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: bye week type of situation. I mean they could go 313 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: one on one. I'm not calling these must win games, 314 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: but you really want to hit that week seven by 315 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: because on the back side of that there are winnable games. 316 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: So this is like, let's just get to that buy 317 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: in the right shape, moving in the right direction, and 318 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: maybe we could salvage this thing. 319 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of specifics on some of the injuries. 320 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 3: So first of all, it does seem like there's a 321 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 3: real chance. Lamar Jackson this is this week, got a 322 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: hamstring injury, John Harbaugh saying that he could not continue 323 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 3: in the game. Now, we didn't see him going into 324 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 3: the blue tents at all, but I mean, hamstring injury 325 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 3: could happen. Literally, any guy ran around a million times. 326 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 3: That could have happened at any moment, and I could 327 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 3: see him just sort of dealing with it, not acknowledging 328 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 3: it until at some point it was like, all. 329 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 2: It's too much. 330 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 3: Rokwan Smith, my understanding is going to miss time with 331 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 3: a Grade two hamstring strain. 332 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: Marlon Humphrey is going to be out a couple weeks 333 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: with the calf injury. Mattabuik you mentioned, is out for 334 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 2: the season, and we'll see. 335 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 3: It's a lot. It is a lot now for the Ravens. 336 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 3: I refuse to believe that any of this matters because 337 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 3: they are going to be good, and they're certainly too 338 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 3: good to not be a playoff team. So yes, could 339 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 3: they go one and one this next stretch? They could? 340 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: Could they go and too? They could? 341 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 3: I believe the Ravens are too talented and going to 342 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 3: be fine. Just got a sort of hang in there. 343 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 3: I'm interested in Zach Or, their defensive coordinator. He is 344 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 3: a little in battled. They've had to get him some 345 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: sort of older wiser help, not wiser, but older help, 346 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 3: recently in the form of DNPS. I wonder if maybe 347 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: during the bye week or something like, they make them 348 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 3: as there because this team is too talented to be 349 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: giving up guys who are just running free, and so I. 350 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 2: Think they're going to be okay because I love the roster. 351 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: But it is a weird time for the Ravens right now. 352 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, we ran down the list of injuries there. I 353 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: want to show you something because Ravens, I would look 354 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: internally for the motto that you need right now? What 355 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: does that say? 356 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 2: Nobody cares work harder? 357 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: Nobody cares work harder? If you're not watching us on video. 358 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: Here it is Lamar Jackson wearing it at a press conference. 359 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: That is a motto inside the Castle, which is what 360 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: they call their training facility there at in Owens Mills, Maryland. 361 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: Nobody cares. Work harder, Nobody cares that you're injured. A 362 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: lot of other teams are injured right now, doesn't matter. 363 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: You are the Ravens, You are well coached, You have 364 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: depth because of your ability to scout and put together 365 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: a fifty three man roster. You have got to find 366 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: a way to win these games. Now, look on the 367 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: back end. I talked about that bye week. Here's the 368 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: back end of it. Okay, And if you're fans of 369 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: any teams, or if you're players or coaches a person of it, 370 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: I'm not insulting you. I'm just saying, here's the back 371 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: end of it. Home against the Bears, at the Dolphins. 372 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: Two more row games after that at the Vikings, at 373 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: the Browns. These are not a lot of playoff teams 374 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: potentially that we're talking about Home against the Jets, Home 375 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: against the Bengals. I would assume that's still gonna be 376 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: without Joe Burrow. Get into December home against the Steelers 377 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: at the Bengals home against the Patriots at Packers at 378 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: Steelers close. There's winnable games, there's enough to get you 379 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: into the postseason. There nobody cares work harder Baltimore Ravens. 380 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: I mentioned the Steelers there at some point during that 381 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: schedule rip. They played the first NFL regular season game 382 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: in Dublin. An entertaining game for sure. Carson Wentz at 383 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: the end with a chance to pull some stuff out, 384 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: not quite able to make it happen. The Steelers were 385 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: able to put the ball in the air. We're able 386 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: to have big plays, explosive plays on offense, which is good. 387 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: That's why you've got DK Metcalf here did a nice 388 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: job without Jalen Warre. And they're starting running back Kenneth Gamewell. 389 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: Thanks Ian for suggesting I don't start. I picked them 390 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: up off the wire, pick them up, and I go 391 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: I should start Kenny Gamewell. This is the team that 392 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: runs the ball, and I liked what I saw from 393 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: him early in the season when he played in Spurts. 394 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: I should start. 395 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 2: Casting them playing really well. 396 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: Didn't do it. Went with Travon Henderson again, who actually 397 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: had one of his better games, but still nowhere near 398 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: the production So frankly, I'm going to be one in 399 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: three in fantasy boomy. Your thoughts, your thoughts in the 400 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: entire Dublin experience. Another successful international game for the NFL, 401 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: which has got a ton of them coming up here. 402 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: It does, that's right. 403 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 3: The Vikings are actually staying out there and go and 404 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 3: hang out in England playing the Cleveland Browns as a 405 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 3: matter of fact, next week. 406 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: So it seemed good. 407 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,239 Speaker 3: You know, people always ask like, well, you know, what 408 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 3: was the Dublin game, Like, I've never been to an 409 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 3: international game while working in NFL network, so I truly 410 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 3: have no idea. I just know it looked cool on TV, 411 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 3: which is the most important thing to me, Like it 412 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 3: looked awesome. Got to hear Greg Olsen talk about why 413 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 3: he tried Guinness and doesn't really like it very much. 414 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: I thought that was one of the best moments of 415 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: the game. 416 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 3: And that's fair because I also have tried Guinness and 417 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 3: drank other beers. Guinness is fine, it's just like really 418 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 3: just not for everyone. So I appreciated his take there. 419 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 3: It seems like the teams had a really good experience 420 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 3: being over there, so I don't know. 421 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: Seemed pretty good, right. 422 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: It did, yes, And I thought the crowd was into it, 423 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: and I you know, I covered the first of these. 424 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 3: By the way, definitely the most pro any team crowd 425 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 3: except for London and Jaguars. 426 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 2: Like that was a pro Steelers crowd. 427 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: Felt like I get that. Yeah, and I would agree 428 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: with that. It's a weird text. I would also say that. 429 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: And I covered the first international game in two thousand 430 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: and seven, Giants Dolphins, and it was a weird scene 431 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: and not a lot of folks into it. Jerseys from 432 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: all over first international game, Yeah, Giants Dolphins. Horrendous field 433 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: conditions at Wembley. It's another thing. The fields have gotten better. 434 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: We had to slip yesterday. Who slipped? Justin Jefferson? I 435 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: believe I was like, oh, otherwise, good footing the rest 436 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: of the game. So people have explained like a lot 437 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: of these stadiums are it's a different kind of grass 438 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: for soccer, and so it's more of a it's not 439 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: a plotting thing. It's more of a gliding surface, and 440 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: so when you try to play it beyond my understanding 441 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: of things. But I think they've done a nice job 442 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: with the surfaces. Internationally, and you haven't had those kinds 443 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: of issues where we said, hey, maybe we shouldn't be 444 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: playing the NFL games at Wembley where they're not used 445 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: to playing NFL games, where way beyond that, the quality 446 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: of the games has been excellent. You play a nine 447 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: thirty AM game and it's you're watching the night game 448 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: and you see highlights of that game, it's like, oh, 449 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: I remember that game. It feels like it happened like 450 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: three weeks ago. That's how long these days tend to be. 451 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: But it's nice to have NFL football in the morning. 452 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: Here your thoughts on the Steelers overall, because this is 453 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: a team that has not been shy about talking Super 454 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: Bowl and talking high expectations, and it's a team that 455 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: a lot of folks say they'll be good, they'll be 456 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: around nine to eight like they always are. Can they 457 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: put it all together? Can they get above that? 458 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: Yes? I feel fine about the Steelers. I thought. 459 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 3: I liked the game plan and Judy told us some 460 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 3: about this in pregame show, moving dk Metcalf around, featuring him, 461 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 3: putting him in different positions in the offense and getting 462 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 3: the balltim Millenium run. I liked that if they can 463 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 3: stop the run, as they did some yesterday. I think 464 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 3: they're going to be fine or more than fine, as 465 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 3: long as Aaron Rodgers stays healthy. 466 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 2: And that's kind of what I mean. They looked like, honestly, 467 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: look like every Steelers team has for the last like 468 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 2: five years. It's just like, can they get good quarterback 469 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: plane if Rogers avoid some of the lower body injuries 470 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 2: that he had last year, like hamstring, ankle, like I 471 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 2: kill us before that, I think they are. 472 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 3: Going to be in the playoffs and a team that 473 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 3: you would not want to play. Are think gonna win games? 474 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: Like? 475 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think they will be a 476 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 3: team you do not want to play, which that is 477 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 3: for doing all the. 478 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 2: Things that did in the offseason. That is progress. 479 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: I want to get your take on the vikings and 480 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: the things j jjban officially ruled out. I mean, I 481 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: know we said it was unlikely he was going to play. 482 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's not officially no. 483 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it usually doesn't happen till Friday, but I 484 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: didn't know if Kevin O'Connell basically had said it. I 485 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: missed the postgame press conference yesterday. This felt like and 486 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: this is going to be a gotta have a game 487 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: against the Browns here on the second half of their 488 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: European tour here. They were favored in this game against 489 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: the Steelers, to which I actually said to you, I 490 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: don't understand why they're considered favorites in this game. I 491 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: feel like it would be more of a toss up. 492 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: Not that I'm ever right about this stuff, but it 493 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: just so happened in this case the Vikings and Carson 494 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: Wentz and the long term plan for JJ McCarthy. I mean, 495 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: I guess you don't necessarily like you want your backup 496 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: to play well, but in this case, it's like you 497 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: didn't want him to play. 498 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: Play too well. 499 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: They'd never say that you don't want to play too 500 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: well because you've got to get JJ McCarthy back in there, 501 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: got to get him feeling good once he's healthy and 502 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: moving in the right direction. Because this this injury, and 503 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: there is an injury. I know some people are skeptical 504 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: there is an injury. Has given him a chance to 505 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: hit the pause button and to basically reset and come 506 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: back and hopefully play better. In this case for the 507 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: Vikings down the stretch on the other end of the game, 508 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: the Browns. Time for a quarterback change for the Browns. 509 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: Here it is. This is the promo Vikings Browns Sunday, 510 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: ninth thirty Eastern. Tune in at seven am Eastern for 511 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,479 Speaker 1: Pacific to see us on NFL Game Day kickoff. But 512 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: the Browns at some point got to make a quarterback change, 513 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: maybe right? 514 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 3: Maybe yeah. I mean it feels like it's time, and 515 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 3: that's fine. I mean, you know, I think Dylan Gabriel 516 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 3: would make sense. I think everybody would like to see it, 517 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 3: and I think the season is not gone like you'd want. 518 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 3: So we'll see on that one coick thing for the Vikings. 519 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 3: You know, Kevin O'Connor was asked like, hey, could you 520 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 3: know Carson Wentz keeps starting if he plays well? And 521 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 3: he's like, I don't have to answer that question essentially, 522 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 3: And he's right, like it'll play out like it plays 523 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: out like it's j jimccarthy's job. I think it's clear. 524 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 3: You hope that the injury has forced him to step 525 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 3: back and watch and learn, and you hope that when 526 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 3: he comes back he's a better version than he was 527 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 3: the first time around. 528 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: But we will see last time. Ian Rappaport said it's 529 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: time to make a quarterback change was last week and 530 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: the Giants did make the quarterback change they did. If 531 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: the Browns wind up doing it here, you heard it 532 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: here first from Ian Rapaport. I mean really, but we're 533 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: going to say that. 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Hey, Judy, we promote 544 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: it to now you gotta be on it. But she 545 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: is hustling all over Europe. She is spending another week 546 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: out there. She will be in London for that Vikings 547 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: Browns game, providing all the coverage out there, and we 548 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: will have all the coverage wrapping up Week four into 549 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: Week five. As we get through the week on the Insiders. 550 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for joining us for ein rapport, 551 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: Tom Pelsero, Janeis Slater and Judy wherever she may be. 552 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: This has been the Insiders podcast. Thank you,