WEBVTT - Week 3 Power Rankings with Spreadapedia (Ep 204)

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone, and welcome on into the Betting Pros Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host Thomas Piolin joining me as always none

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<v Speaker 1>other than the Oracle himself, Matt Friedman, and today to

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<v Speaker 1>help us break down the reactions to Week two, adjust

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<v Speaker 1>our power ratings, and see which teams truly are the

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<v Speaker 1>best and worst going into Week three, none other than

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<v Speaker 1>Spreadipedia himself Jason Weingarten. Jason, how are you doing today?

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty good?

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<v Speaker 3>Nice to talk to you again. I had had fun

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<v Speaker 3>last time last time I was on the show with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely it was great having you on, of course last time.

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<v Speaker 1>If people want to go back, Baseball season isn't quite

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<v Speaker 1>over yet. Amazingly, it's not over for the Mets. They

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<v Speaker 1>they just clinched the playoff spot. But on our last

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with Jason, we talked about the dangers of no

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<v Speaker 1>run first innings, how you should probably be betting the

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<v Speaker 1>yes instead, and a whole bunch of other great conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>But today, guys, we are talking all about the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>It was another wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Week of action.

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<v Speaker 1>Three different teams had ninety nine percent or higher win

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<v Speaker 1>percentage chances and manage to lose their games. Matt, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a nuts week. But before we get started on it,

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<v Speaker 1>let's shift into the forty nine er game here. How

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<v Speaker 1>far are the Niners going up or down your power

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<v Speaker 1>rankings based off of that Trey Lance injury. Jimmy g

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<v Speaker 1>obviously finished the game at quarterback. He's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback the rest of the season. Matt, where are

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<v Speaker 1>you looking with the forty nine ers? Because they're odds shortened,

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<v Speaker 1>they are now a more likely Super Bowl winner than

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<v Speaker 1>they were before Week two because of this injury here,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm inclined to push them up my power ratings as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I moved the Cowboys up pretty significantly. I moved

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<v Speaker 4>them up a point based on what we saw last week.

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<v Speaker 4>I maybe had downgraded them too much in the move

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<v Speaker 4>from Dak Prescott to Cooper Rush. And I should say, like, obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>like quarterback moves, those are really the only things that

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<v Speaker 4>should make you move your power ratings significantly weak over week.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, we have a quarterback change here in San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 4>and I've bumped the forty nine ers up point seventy

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<v Speaker 4>five points in my power ratings, and honestly, like I kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of don't know if it's enough.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like, you know, probably Jimmy g is like

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<v Speaker 4>at least a point better against the spread on a

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<v Speaker 4>neutral field relative to Trey Lance, who was highly unproven.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, say whatever you want about Jimmy Garoppolo

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<v Speaker 4>since he joined the forty nine ers. You know, twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 4>he was the number four quarterback in the league in

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<v Speaker 4>completion percentage over expectation and EPA combined. That's not like

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<v Speaker 4>a perfect metric, but it's a pretty good, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like number one is Patrick Mahomes, number two is Drew Brees,

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<v Speaker 4>number three is to Shaun Watson, and number five is

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<v Speaker 4>Aaron Rodgers. Like for Jimmy Garoppolo to be in that list,

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't mean like it's sort of like very clearly

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<v Speaker 4>like the which one of these guys is not like

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<v Speaker 4>the others. So it's not to say he's an elite quarterback,

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<v Speaker 4>but it is to say that within the confines of

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<v Speaker 4>what he is asked to do, within that Kyle Shanahan system,

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<v Speaker 4>he can do it pretty well. And so we have

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<v Speaker 4>a pretty large sample size of knowing what Garoppolo can

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<v Speaker 4>do within that offense and knowing what the offense can

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<v Speaker 4>do with Garoppolo as the starting quarterback, and it can

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<v Speaker 4>function pretty highly. So I have, I want to say,

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<v Speaker 4>like aggressively, but I've significantly moved up the forty nine

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<v Speaker 4>ers with the new quarterback situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Jason, how about you, how are you feeling about

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<v Speaker 1>this forty nine Ers team moving forward?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it probably helps them in the short term.

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<v Speaker 3>Lance was the guy they wanted to develop long term

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<v Speaker 3>and lead this team on a rookie contract. But they

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<v Speaker 3>made the right decision keeping Garoppolo and it paid off.

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<v Speaker 2>It paid off early.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the locker room is very happy that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Garoppolo is the guy, or at least there is a

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<v Speaker 3>certain faction of the locker room that probably preferred him

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<v Speaker 3>to be the starting quarterback to begin with, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're going to probably be a playoff contender

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<v Speaker 3>this season. Wouldn't surprise me to see him make a

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<v Speaker 3>run at the division.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, I'm with you. I think that all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>this team bumps up a lot because of this, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a hot take. It is pretty much the

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<v Speaker 1>consensus right now. It's been well documented that I am

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<v Speaker 1>not on the Trey Lance train. Obviously, we hope that

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<v Speaker 1>he has a speedy recovery and is back and right

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<v Speaker 1>at him next year. But from a pure football standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>this team is better with Jimmy g at the helm.

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<v Speaker 1>And now all of a sudden, I'm regretting my nine

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<v Speaker 1>er seven win ticket. But we still have plenty more

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<v Speaker 1>to get to here. Moving on to some other teams, Guys, again,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a topsy turvy week, and now we have

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<v Speaker 1>a two week sample size, we're starting to see, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what was a week one fluke? What might actually be

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<v Speaker 1>a trend or a pattern here? What were some of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest surprises for you out of these week two games?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean big surprises, you know, all the big

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<v Speaker 4>come from behind victories, the Jets winning outright. Your Jets

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<v Speaker 4>winning out right, by the way, congratulations on that long

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<v Speaker 4>suffering Jets fan. The Dolphins coming back from down twenty one,

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<v Speaker 4>Arizona coming back, Jacksonville winning outright and shutting out the

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<v Speaker 4>Colts while doing it. And then of course the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 4>My Cowboys beating the Bengals. That was very surprising. Although

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Mike McCarthy now six and two against the

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<v Speaker 4>spread as an underdog without Dak. You know, that's not

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<v Speaker 4>to say that Mike McCarthy is like a great coach,

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<v Speaker 4>because I believe he very much is not. But maybe

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<v Speaker 4>it is to say that Dak isn't as significant in

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<v Speaker 4>that offense as I would have expected him to be.

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<v Speaker 1>and how about you, what were some of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that you really weren't expecting to see through two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>of this NFL season.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first, you mentioned the Jets.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually didn't even know the Jets have won that

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<v Speaker 3>game until like probably two or three in the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 3>I was got to the Rams game at that point

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<v Speaker 3>and someone texted me, wow that the Browns were a

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<v Speaker 3>big pick and survivor and I was like, what are

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<v Speaker 3>you talking about the Browns?

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<v Speaker 2>One? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, so yeah, that was that was news to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Detroit obviously has been a story so far.

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<v Speaker 3>They look, you know, like they're they're on the up.

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<v Speaker 3>Philadelphia has has been impressive so far through the game

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<v Speaker 3>and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to watch them, and then Tampa.

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<v Speaker 3>I was really, really, really down on Tampa coming into

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<v Speaker 3>the season and they're two and zero and favorites in

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<v Speaker 3>Week three against Green Bay. So as usual, I've I've

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<v Speaker 3>been wrong about Tampa. You know, I've been wrong about

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Brady just about every every season.

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<v Speaker 2>I continue to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's so hard, he's forty five. At some point

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<v Speaker 1>you're just like, come on, he has to fall off.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it is this year now, Like, I'm a little

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<v Speaker 1>worried about this team moving forward with obviously no Godwin

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment. Now you have no Mike Evans next weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>viously decided to go into UFC against Marshall Lattimore there

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<v Speaker 1>and without the weapons. Does this team finally slow down?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a question that we're gonna have to ask. But

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that I'm surprised about neither of you brought

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<v Speaker 1>up the Bengals. I really did not have the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>being zero to two right now and just looking as

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<v Speaker 1>bad as they have. Matt, what do you think?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, it's it's a question, is too like

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<v Speaker 4>we all knew or I tell you know, we all knew,

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<v Speaker 4>but like there was this strong sentiment that the Bengals,

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't say they were due for regression, but that

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<v Speaker 4>they could struggle this year. And they have an especially hard,

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<v Speaker 4>hard schedule to open the year, you know, in weeks

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<v Speaker 4>two through eight, So you know after Week one right

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<v Speaker 4>weeks two through eight, they have a stretch four or

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<v Speaker 4>five games away, five of seven games away. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>some of their road games aren't all that bad, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like against the Jets, but it's still on the road.

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<v Speaker 4>And so everyone knew, like, hey, this could be a

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<v Speaker 4>team that even if they improve overall, they could still

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<v Speaker 4>not win as many games as they did last year.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's not just that they like, oh, they've improved

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<v Speaker 4>and had some tough luck. It's just that, like, they're

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<v Speaker 4>not looking better than they were last year, and their

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<v Speaker 4>offensive line, which should ultimately be better than last year's

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<v Speaker 4>unit was, it is taking a while for that unit

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<v Speaker 4>to coalesce. So it's I don't think it's a surprise

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<v Speaker 4>that they have started oh in two, but I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's a surprise in the way in which they have

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<v Speaker 4>started oh and two. You know, like losing against the Steelers, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>a divisional opponent in Week one. You know, anything can

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<v Speaker 4>kind of happen in that situation, and you think before

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<v Speaker 4>the season, okay, losing on the road to the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 4>you think, yeah, like you could see how they lose

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<v Speaker 4>that game. But you know, losing to Mitch Trubisky when

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<v Speaker 4>he looks horrible, and losing to Cooper Rush that doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>like jive with how it was that we imagine this

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<v Speaker 4>would go down.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm out here going now, Okay, they go into Week three,

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<v Speaker 1>They're playing the Jets in New York. I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pick this team for my Survivor this week, and all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, I'm looking over the shoulder, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think the Jets are gonna win two games in

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<v Speaker 1>a row. That's not a very Jets thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, are you thinking that maybe is

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<v Speaker 1>there a risk here? I'm probably not gonna play them

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<v Speaker 1>in Survivor, but could the Bengals start zero to three? Jason,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I bet the Jets this weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>I bet the Bengals missed the playoffs this week after

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<v Speaker 3>starting hing two.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're in a really bad spot.

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<v Speaker 3>Matt pointed out, they're unfavorable scheduling situations. That's something I

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<v Speaker 3>have circled as well. So like, this week is their

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<v Speaker 3>second of a back to back road road games, So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really happy to take the Jets as a dog

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<v Speaker 3>at home here.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing, what is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Burrow has been sacked like seven times a game,

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<v Speaker 3>both both games to start the season. That is a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of sacks. You extrapolate that over the entire season,

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<v Speaker 3>that would be over one hundred sacks. Not that that's

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<v Speaker 3>going to happen, because if he gets anywhere close to

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<v Speaker 3>that number, he's gonna be out injured because that's just

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<v Speaker 3>such an unsustainable amount of hits for a professional quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>to take. So there is a lot of stuff I

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<v Speaker 3>don't like going with Cincinnati. They're bad offensive line, the

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<v Speaker 3>unsustainability of the hits, Joe Burrows taking starting zero in two,

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<v Speaker 3>another back to back road trip coming up to Baltimore

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<v Speaker 3>and New Orleans. I think it is, you know, two

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<v Speaker 3>teams that aren't going to take it easy on them

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<v Speaker 3>on defense at all.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of negatives going for the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 3>Not to mention that Zach Zach what's the name, Zach

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<v Speaker 3>Taylor is the head coach. You know, maybe last year

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<v Speaker 3>just was a whole string of lucky. They got the

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<v Speaker 3>Raiders in the playoffs, they beat the Titans, and they

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<v Speaker 3>got really lucky against the Chiefs. You know that that

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<v Speaker 3>took a whole bunch of things and missed field goals

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<v Speaker 3>and whatnot to even get to the to the super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>So now they're coming off this this extended playoff run.

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<v Speaker 3>They have a bad offensive line, wouldn't even surprise me

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<v Speaker 3>my boldest pick. I just wrote about this this this

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<v Speaker 3>week for Viisen. Actually, I bet the Bengals to have

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<v Speaker 3>the worst record in the NFL at fifty to one.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's way too high, especially when you look

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<v Speaker 3>at the schedule. They got the Bills, they got Tampa Bay.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't have a lot of easy games in the pipeline,

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<v Speaker 3>so things go south in Cincinnati. They can go south quickly,

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<v Speaker 3>and the Bengals can be the bung Goals again, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>before we know it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's I mean, fifty to one for the Bengals

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<v Speaker 4>to have the worst record in the league. I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 4>so obviously like kind of wide range of outcomes with

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<v Speaker 4>how things could could unfold with this team. Wide range

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<v Speaker 4>may be skewed towards the downside with them. I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 4>how much you have adjusted your assumptions about the baseline

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<v Speaker 4>for this team so week over week I've bumped them

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<v Speaker 4>down zero point five points relative to where I had

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<v Speaker 4>them previously. Honestly, I was attempted to bump them down

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit more, but that just felt like I

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<v Speaker 4>would be too aggressive. But how how are you like

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<v Speaker 4>viewing this team in a vacuum.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, remember that they're fortunate in the fact that every

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<v Speaker 3>other team in their division right now is one and one,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, a win this week puts them, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>turn turns things around, you know, fairly quickly, at least

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of, you know, attempting to make the playoffs

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<v Speaker 3>and win the division.

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<v Speaker 2>And all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But you mentioned range of outcomes, and it's just if

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<v Speaker 3>they if they lose this week, their situation is not

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<v Speaker 3>great at zero to three. With Miami come into town,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's just a hard offense to defend against.

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<v Speaker 3>Then they go they have the back to back road

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<v Speaker 3>trip I mentioned Baltimore and New Orleans. They get a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit the easiest sort of chunk of their schedule

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<v Speaker 3>with with Atlanta and uh, what's it called the Browns

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<v Speaker 3>without Deshaun Watson, and they get Carolina. But after that

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<v Speaker 3>second half of the season's absolute bloodbath starts at after

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<v Speaker 3>the bye week, they they're at Pittsburgh at Tennessee, they

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<v Speaker 3>get Kansas City, Cleveland at home with Deshaun Watson, at

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<v Speaker 3>Tampa Bay at New England. Late in the season, Buffalo

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<v Speaker 3>and Baltimore. You know those are all, you know, not

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<v Speaker 3>not easy games, especially when you have a quarterback that's

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<v Speaker 3>getting smashed on a weekly basis.

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<v Speaker 2>So just range of outcomes, things go south. They go

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<v Speaker 2>south quickly. Here.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not even convinced Zach Taylor makes it through the

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<v Speaker 3>whole season if it if it goes as bad as

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<v Speaker 3>it could. If I was looking for a cheap first

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<v Speaker 3>coach fired, I would pick Zac Taylor at a big number.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see that today I was looking for it. Though.

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<v Speaker 1>It is worth remembering this team's only two years removed

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<v Speaker 1>from what another first overall pick or dam They.

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<v Speaker 3>Weren't very good, They got very good very quickly, and

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<v Speaker 3>then a lot of luck played into that. It just,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like this, This team lost to the Jets

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<v Speaker 3>as recently as last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't don't forget that.

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<v Speaker 3>They I like Joe Burrow a lot, but the unsustainability

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<v Speaker 3>of him continuing to get hit is a major thing.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's not really being talked about a lot right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Mike White. Now, guys, is the are

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals the team that is dropping the furthest in

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<v Speaker 1>your power rankings right now? Or is there someone that

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<v Speaker 1>you were looking at with an even more negative light

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<v Speaker 1>after two weeks of the season, Matt, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>There were a number of teams that I dropped down

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<v Speaker 4>this week, all point five points. The Rams don't look

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<v Speaker 4>like the Rams of last year, or maybe you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just say the Rams last year were very streaky,

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<v Speaker 4>and they you know, they put a good run of

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<v Speaker 4>games together. But you know, any any good team can

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<v Speaker 4>lose to the Bills. That's fine. Refusing to close out

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<v Speaker 4>the Falcons was pretty concerning. Also the Denver Broncos. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I think Russell Wilson is not the Russell Wilson of

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<v Speaker 4>five years ago. And the head coach that they have

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<v Speaker 4>is definitely not the head coach they want to have

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<v Speaker 4>next year. It's a really negative situation. I've also downgraded

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<v Speaker 4>the Colts, who I'm just sorry. Like the Jags, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe they're better than we thought they were, But if

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<v Speaker 4>all it takes is losing one wide receiver and one

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<v Speaker 4>mindbacker for you to get beat by twenty four points

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<v Speaker 4>by the Jags, you're not as good as everyone thought

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<v Speaker 4>you were. The Titans, that that's obvious. Uh, And then

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<v Speaker 4>the Steelers, you know, like I want to like this team.

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<v Speaker 4>They've got a lot of grit. Uh, They've got a

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<v Speaker 4>I think an underappreciated defense, but they have Mitch Trubisky

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<v Speaker 4>a quarterback, and I just I have to downgrade them. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>I thought this number should be three, you know, looking

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<v Speaker 4>ahead towards week three, uh Thursday night football. Uh, you

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<v Speaker 4>know with the Browns, I thought the number should have

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<v Speaker 4>been three. I think it was three in the look

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<v Speaker 4>ahead market. It's now I think like five. Uh So

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<v Speaker 4>I'm probably I'm probably still too high on the Steelers

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<v Speaker 4>to be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>I I personally think that the problem is losing TJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Watt because that that team is what zero to five

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<v Speaker 1>now in games where Watt doesn't play, that defense really

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<v Speaker 1>struggles to function once he's once he's out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then on the offensive side, like you said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>Mitch Trubisky is not the answer. And eventually you have

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<v Speaker 1>to think sooner rather than later, Kenny baby hands pick

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<v Speaker 1>it has to be getting the call to go to

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<v Speaker 1>get on the field and start playing more.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I don't think, I hope.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think Kenny Pickett's gonna play much this season.

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<v Speaker 3>They've been They've been pretty public that he's gonna sit

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<v Speaker 3>on the bench and learn, and it would be very

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<v Speaker 3>un Steelers like for them to all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 3>change their mind and just throw them in, especially early

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<v Speaker 3>in the season. If things get away from them, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe he starts a couple of games late, but I

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<v Speaker 3>don't see them, you know, taking the team away from Trabitsky.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think, uh, this Week two game against the Patriots,

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<v Speaker 3>it was just a bad spot in general, coming off

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<v Speaker 3>the Week one overtime, so it didn't surprise me that

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<v Speaker 3>they came out flat there. I wouldn't write the Steelers

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<v Speaker 3>off just yet, though I bet them to win the

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<v Speaker 3>division at ten to one before the season.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the TJ.

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<v Speaker 3>Watt injury really sucks, though, but still earlier I don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I would just totally write off everything

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<v Speaker 3>they're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Give it, give it some more time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still holding out hope on my thirty three to

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<v Speaker 1>one Mike Tomlin Coach of the Year ticket. The hope

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<v Speaker 1>is not completely dead just yet, but it's it's on

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<v Speaker 1>life support. The flip side of it is, with all

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<v Speaker 1>these injuries, if they make it to the playoffs, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I have a great chance, they just have

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<v Speaker 1>to get there. But sorry, go, no, you go.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd say, I don't think Coach of the Year is

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<v Speaker 3>going to matter if the Bills go fifteen and two.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Sean McDermott, I actually bet some of that today.

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<v Speaker 3>But I agree with most of what Matt said about

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<v Speaker 3>the Rams. I've down downgraded them. I thought, even even

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<v Speaker 3>coming off that win against the Falcons, they easily could

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<v Speaker 3>have lost that game.

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<v Speaker 2>They got lucky, not only late in the game, but

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<v Speaker 2>they got lucky.

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<v Speaker 3>Early in the game that the first possession was a

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<v Speaker 3>turnover on turnover on downs or missed field goal or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>There were a lot of situations I think that the

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<v Speaker 3>Falcons could have taken advantage and scored more points in

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<v Speaker 3>that game early. Besides the Rams, though, I also have

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<v Speaker 3>downgraded the Titans a bit. Basically, all the O and

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<v Speaker 3>two teams a downgrade for me, but the Titans and

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<v Speaker 3>the Bengals, I think, you know, I could almost guarantee

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<v Speaker 3>you one of those two teams is not at the

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<v Speaker 3>playoffs this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think that's a pretty safe bet. I

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<v Speaker 1>was low on the Titans going into the season, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kicking myself right now because I did not pick

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<v Speaker 1>the Texans eighty to one. I talked about it, I

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<v Speaker 1>danced around it. I never took the Texans to win

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<v Speaker 1>that division at eighty to one, and I really really

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<v Speaker 1>wish I had. But man, the teams at the top there,

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<v Speaker 1>the Titans and the Colts both just look like garbage

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Matt already talked about it a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>with Okay, you lose Michael Pittman, you lose Shaquille Leonard,

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<v Speaker 1>But twenty four points to the Jags, especially when you

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<v Speaker 1>have that game marked on the calendar after what happened

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of last season. Is it time to panic?

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<v Speaker 1>Jason on the Colts? Are you writing them off completely?

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<v Speaker 1>And if so, can we just not give out a

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<v Speaker 1>division winner in the AFC South.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not writing them off completely, but I am unimpressed

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<v Speaker 3>with them.

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<v Speaker 2>I did have the Jaguars week two.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's it's not a terrible, terrible spot to

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<v Speaker 3>be in. I guess oh one and one is still

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<v Speaker 3>better than oh and two, especially in that division when

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<v Speaker 3>you know no one's gonna really run away with it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like the Texans very much, just because Lovey

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<v Speaker 3>Smith seems to kind of go into turtle mode late

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<v Speaker 3>in the games, and he's he's very very unaggressive. I

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<v Speaker 3>just like, like, I want I want him to be

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<v Speaker 3>more aggressive. And I understand, you know, maybe he feels

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<v Speaker 3>limited what he could do with Davis Mills or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, I'm not I'm not into this team

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<v Speaker 3>at all. UH division totally up for grabs. I like

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<v Speaker 3>the Jaguars, though, I think Trevor Lawrence's is what's up

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<v Speaker 3>in that division.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like a lot of people kind of forgot

0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:52.360
<v Speaker 1>about him after last year and are forgetting that, Hey,

0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:55.200
<v Speaker 1>urban Meyer was probably not the best guy to help

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<v Speaker 1>develop him. And also it's not like he didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>just such astounding college career. You know, this guy has

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<v Speaker 1>the talent, and now we're starting to see a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more of that come to fruition under Doug Peterson.

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<v Speaker 1>But one team we haven't talked about so far. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's because I know I was a little higher on

0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:15.480
<v Speaker 1>them than most and now they're dealing with a whole

0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:20.159
<v Speaker 1>host of problems. But the Saints, they obviously were a

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<v Speaker 1>mixed bag. You came out in Week one, you were okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and then in Week two against the Bucks, the offense

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<v Speaker 1>was a no show. Jamis was back to throwing his interceptions.

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<v Speaker 1>How concerned are you guys about this team, especially with

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that apparently Jamis Winston is playing with no

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<v Speaker 1>back right now, Matt, where do you have the Saints?

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<v Speaker 4>You know? I actually I bumped the Saints up a

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<v Speaker 4>little after their Week two performance. I thought they they

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<v Speaker 4>looked pretty good. You know, they might be frustrating, but

0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:54.560
<v Speaker 4>they hung with the Bucks. And the Bucks have a

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<v Speaker 4>great defense, maybe the best defense in the league, certainly

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<v Speaker 4>top three, and it was only after Lattimore was ejected

0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:05.320
<v Speaker 4>that the Bucks were able to do more on offense.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think that was really a pretty close game,

0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:13.399
<v Speaker 4>and given that the Saints were able to hang the

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<v Speaker 4>way that they were, I think that they're deserve an

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<v Speaker 4>upgrade after that. So I still have them as a,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a kind of like league average team on

0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:29.920
<v Speaker 4>a neutral field. But I don't know. The defense doesn't

0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:33.720
<v Speaker 4>doesn't worry me at all. It might be the inconsistency

0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:38.040
<v Speaker 4>with Jamis Winston in the back issues, but the inconsistency

0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:40.360
<v Speaker 4>gives them a really wide range of outcomes.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason, how about you? In the eights, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Tays from Hill is their best chance to be a

0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:48.000
<v Speaker 3>playoff contender at quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I really thought they should have put him

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<v Speaker 2>in more in that game.

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<v Speaker 3>And like Matt said, I mean, anytime you hold a

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<v Speaker 3>good NFL team to three points through three quarters, we're

0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:04.920
<v Speaker 3>doing something right. And uh, I mean the Bucks should

0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:09.359
<v Speaker 3>be more concerned through their first eight quarters. They didn't

0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:13.080
<v Speaker 3>look great against the Cowboys defense. They didn't look great

0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:17.920
<v Speaker 3>against the Saints defense. It wasn't until Marshaun Lattimore got

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<v Speaker 3>ejected that you know that the Saints kind of came

0:24:21.320 --> 0:24:23.880
<v Speaker 3>alive with a little bit of help from Jamis Winston,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, throwing some some easy interceptions to to the

0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:32.920
<v Speaker 3>Bucks defense as well. So all all around, I think

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 3>this is the same Saints team we've seen for the

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<v Speaker 3>last couple of years. It's it's got, you know, players

0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:43.119
<v Speaker 3>all across the board. They're strong, you know, Kamara, Michael

0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:46.879
<v Speaker 3>Thomas is back, they added uh, Chris Olave the wide

0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:48.679
<v Speaker 3>receiver rookie.

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<v Speaker 2>They got a lot going for them.

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<v Speaker 3>They got a strong defense, continuity with the coaching staff

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<v Speaker 3>more or less.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's the quarterback.

0:24:57.200 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 3>It's just Jameis Winston is not going to be the

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<v Speaker 3>cou It's gonna win you these games and until they

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<v Speaker 3>figure that out, and I don't know. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I think Taysom Hill is the answer. It's clear they

0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:13.800
<v Speaker 3>don't think he is. But I would love to see

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 3>him get a real shot at playing quarterback healthy, because

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:19.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, playing that sort of hybrid tight end running

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 3>quarterback thing and it just doesn't get him enough touches

0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 3>to use him the way he should be used. I

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:28.320
<v Speaker 3>think he needs to be full time starting quarterback and

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:30.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, see see how the team plays with him

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<v Speaker 3>in the lineup healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Payton is cheering on listening to this podcast in

0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:39.199
<v Speaker 1>his car right now. Matt. I don't know though that

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:41.920
<v Speaker 1>that's a take right there. They tried the storm and

0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Mormon a bit last year. Wasn't necessarily the most successful thing.

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:48.400
<v Speaker 1>But Matt, he was.

0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:51.439
<v Speaker 2>Real injured last year though, too. He wasn't one healthy.

0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:55.119
<v Speaker 1>That is true, Matt. What do you think? Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I respectfully disagree. I mean, I think the I

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 4>think the thing with Taysom Hill is that like as

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:06.120
<v Speaker 4>wide as wide as the jamis Winston range of outcomes is,

0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:10.000
<v Speaker 4>it's even wider with Taysom Hill. And so the fact

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 4>that he is a quarterback who is unconventional, means that

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:20.080
<v Speaker 4>like the defensive game planning is harder for him that week. Uh,

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 4>and so that could give the Saints an edge. But

0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:27.640
<v Speaker 4>I think that, uh he it would It wouldn't take

0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 4>long before in a sort of t Bowt esque type

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:33.639
<v Speaker 4>of fashion, he would be exposed.

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe I'm just wrong, you know, maybe I'm wrong, But

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:41.560
<v Speaker 4>I think Winston or like even Andy Dalton as the

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<v Speaker 4>number two. Like if Winston were injured and out, Dalton

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:48.160
<v Speaker 4>would be the guy to come in and not Taysom Hill.

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:53.080
<v Speaker 4>And I think Dalton probably has like the higher floor, Uh,

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 4>Taysom Hill probably. It feels so wrong to say Tasom

0:26:57.119 --> 0:27:00.000
<v Speaker 4>Hill probably has the higher ceiling relative to Dalton.

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<v Speaker 1>a change, I think you do try the Taysom Hill experiment,

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<v Speaker 1>but I personally think you give Jamis a little more time.

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I think the back injury is having a serious effect here,

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 1>and that's not the only injury that I'm worried about

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 1>going into this next week. Guys, what about the Chargers

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 1>because apparently now Justin Herbert is dealing with rib injury.

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<v Speaker 1>They say that he should be able to play, and

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<v Speaker 1>he should be okay, but I'm still scared, especially because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they fired that doctor from the

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<v Speaker 1>other season or not. Matt, how concerned you about Justin Herbert?

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<v Speaker 1>Not just potential threat of life, but ability to play football?

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 4>Whoever it was who injected Tara Taylor. That guy no

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<v Speaker 4>longer is with the team. Hopefully, certainly let's keep him

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<v Speaker 4>away from the ribs of Justin Herbert. I'm not as

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<v Speaker 4>worried about Justin Herbert maybe as I should be. I

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<v Speaker 4>think he plays in Week three, especially with the three

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<v Speaker 4>extra days of rest. Deepak Shona, who's our injury expert

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<v Speaker 4>at Fantasy pros, He suggested that this injury is more

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<v Speaker 4>about pain than about anything else, and that the pain

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<v Speaker 4>can be managed. You know, but this line it opened

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<v Speaker 4>at seven the look aheadline I believe was nine nine

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 4>and a half and in the regular season, sorry, in

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<v Speaker 4>the preseason market, this number was ten, and so having

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<v Speaker 4>it at seven just feels a little bit short. I

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<v Speaker 4>actually I project it for around nine, and so I

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<v Speaker 4>think that there's some value here. And maybe the reason

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<v Speaker 4>why it's seven has something to do with the Justin

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<v Speaker 4>Herbert injury. I think it also has to do with

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<v Speaker 4>maybe some Jags enthusiasm, and maybe the also the desire

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<v Speaker 4>not to trust Brandon Staley as much as we previously

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<v Speaker 4>had because he's just not going to be as aggressive

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:17.960
<v Speaker 4>and that would maybe mean just fewer points all around

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 4>for the team. So maybe you put all that together

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 4>and seven is a better number than the look ahead

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 4>we had at nine. But I'm just I'm not too

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<v Speaker 4>worried about the Justin Herbert ribs component of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason, I know you're a Rams fan, but what do

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 1>you think about the other team in LA I'm a.

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 3>Little worried about his ribs. I mean, he did not

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 3>look like he was throwing. You know, he was in

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 3>a lot of pain at the end of that game.

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 3>Getting us to cover there now, gotta thank.

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Him for that.

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 3>But I'm not super impressed with Brandon Staley's game management.

0:30:56.320 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 3>Haven't been since the Week seventeen overtime game that I

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:05.400
<v Speaker 3>still wish had ended in a tie for many, many reasons,

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 3>mostly financial. But you know, I think i've I just

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 3>haven't been impressed with the way he's managed end of

0:31:14.480 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 3>game situations.

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 2>And the Chargers tend.

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 3>To be one of those teams kind of like the Lions,

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 3>where I always joke, it doesn't matter what the score is,

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 3>just let me know who has the ball in the

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 3>final possession, because these games always come down to the end.

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<v Speaker 3>I really like their defense. I bet Khalil Mack to

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 3>have the most stacks. I bet him to win Defensive

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 3>Player of the Year. You know, I think he's it's

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:39.480
<v Speaker 3>like thirty one, so he's slightly on the wrong side

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 3>of the defensive player of your age curve. But I

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 3>like his situation and the fact that he can get

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 3>double digit sacks in this defense. But you know, I

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 3>think I think it's It's been popular the last couple

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:58.440
<v Speaker 3>of years to pick against Kansas City and try to

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 3>find reasons why they're not gonna sustain success, and through

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 3>two weeks they look as good as they they normally do,

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 3>and probably the only thing overshadowing them is the Buffalo Bills.

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 3>Otherwise we'd be saying Kansas City is the best team

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 3>in the AFC.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, and Matt, what do you think about Kansas City?

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 1>That's not necessarily where I was thinking of going next,

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 1>but it's a great point. There were people writing their

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:27.719
<v Speaker 1>demise with the loss of Tyreek Hill. Have you been

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 1>impressed with what this team has been able to do?

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Is it that they haven't had a truly challenging game yet?

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts on Kansas City? Where are they

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<v Speaker 1>in your rankings right now?

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 4>I mean they're number two. I totally agree with Jason,

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 4>and if you look at you know, some of the

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 4>the more advanced numbers, they're you know, top two, even

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 4>top one, top one, number one offense in the league,

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 4>and Patrick Mahomes is number one in EPA and completion

0:32:55.680 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 4>percentage over expectation, you know, composite metric. So I still

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 4>think that the Chiefs are it's hard to say that

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 4>they are the better team than the Bills like they are,

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:10.720
<v Speaker 4>they are not, but I still think that they are

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 4>right right there, and I do think that they are

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 4>still underappreciated within the market so very much with Spreadipedia

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 4>there on on the Chiefs. But yeah, I will say

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 4>that I still have them a tier below the Bills.

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:33.400
<v Speaker 4>Like I want to put the Chiefs up in that tier,

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 4>but like I still haven't been able to do it yet.

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Now, guys, this next team that I want to talk

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>about here, I had in the rundown from before last night,

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 1>and see if you can spot the issue with them. Now,

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 1>the Vikings. They looked fantastic in Week one against the Packers,

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 1>and then last night against the Eagles happened primetime Kirk

0:33:57.840 --> 0:34:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Cousins came back out and we were reminded of, oh, yeah,

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:05.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe this team does have some limitations here. To me,

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 1>after one week, I was ready to put them a

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 1>top three spot on my board, right behind as one

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:13.400
<v Speaker 1>of the best teams in the NFC and in the

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:17.240
<v Speaker 1>NFC in general. All of a sudden, now I'm actually

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 1>taking what happened last night and saying this impacts my

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>evaluation of the Packers more than the Vikings. I think

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:27.799
<v Speaker 1>the Vikings are still pretty good and they're gonna be

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 1>better games for Kirk Cousins than this one. But now

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking back at the Packers through two weeks and saying, Okay,

0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I think this team seriously does have some big issues still,

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:40.759
<v Speaker 1>especially in the passing game. Without Devonte Adams, even with

0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Allen Lazard back, what's striking to me. I don't think

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be able to move the football down the

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 1>field as quickly and efficiently as they used to. They

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 1>have to lean on that running game a lot more.

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 1>And I think it's gonna do fine when they're playing

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 1>teams like the Bears. I don't think that they're gonna

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:56.320
<v Speaker 1>do as well when they have to come up against

0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 1>some of these bigger offenses like a Chiefs, Bucks or Bills.

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Where are you guys going on the Packers right now?

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:05.399
<v Speaker 1>And then also the Vikings after that game?

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:09.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I would like to get to get Jason's

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 4>thoughts on the Packers here. I'm of the opinion that

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 4>what we saw in Week one had more to do

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:22.640
<v Speaker 4>with circumstances than with the Packers themselves or with the Vikings.

0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 4>You know, without their left tackle, without their right tackle,

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:30.320
<v Speaker 4>without their number one wide receiver, without their two top

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:33.800
<v Speaker 4>receivers from last season, and then their left guard suffers

0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:37.239
<v Speaker 4>a concussion in the middle of the game, and you know,

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 4>for whatever reason, they were playing a very suboptimal defense

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:46.239
<v Speaker 4>zone like soft zone against the Vikings, and so Justin

0:35:46.280 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 4>Jefferson was able to get a lot of whatever he

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:54.399
<v Speaker 4>wanted in that game. In week two, they got back

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:58.719
<v Speaker 4>Alan Wizzard, they got back right tackle Elston Jenkins, they

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 4>got back left guard John Running, and I think sooner

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 4>or later they're going to get back left tackle David Baktiari,

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 4>and that wide receiver unit is going to start to coalesce.

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:13.360
<v Speaker 4>I do agree with you. The offense will be different.

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:16.839
<v Speaker 4>They will be more run focused, and in the passing game,

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 4>I think they will focus more on the shorter passing game,

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 4>more passes to running backs, which, like that's not the

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 4>most efficient way to function, but I still think it

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:28.799
<v Speaker 4>will be a pretty good offense tom As you know,

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:32.560
<v Speaker 4>I was low on the Vikings entering the year, and

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:36.399
<v Speaker 4>so I did bump them up pretty significantly after week one,

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:39.680
<v Speaker 4>but I haven't adjusted them at all after week two

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:42.480
<v Speaker 4>because I was already low on them. So I viewed

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 4>them as being about a point better than average on

0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 4>a neutral field, and I am I'm fine with that.

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:55.440
<v Speaker 4>I do think that given given that they have Aaron Rodgers,

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 4>given the success that they've had. The Green Bay Packers

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 4>are still one of the top you know, eight, top

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:03.280
<v Speaker 4>six teams in the league.

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:08.279
<v Speaker 1>Jason, how about you? Where are you going on? First

0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:10.759
<v Speaker 1>the Packers and then the Vikings.

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Didn't really worry me week one. They did the same

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:14.319
<v Speaker 2>thing last year.

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, when when you have a veteran

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:20.839
<v Speaker 3>quarterback like Aaron Rodgers, you can throw out week run

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:24.800
<v Speaker 3>week one results. And like Matt said, they were missing

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 3>starting tackles, and you know, those are all big deals. Especially,

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:32.319
<v Speaker 3>I think we frequently don't pay attention to offensive line

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:34.840
<v Speaker 3>injuries as much as we should, you know, for handicap

0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 3>and purposes.

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:37.520
<v Speaker 2>I think especially that's something.

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 3>That that people people don't you know, amateur handicappers probably

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:46.000
<v Speaker 3>don't pay enough attention to It's something that could significantly

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:49.839
<v Speaker 3>help them long term. But you know, line linemen are

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:52.720
<v Speaker 3>a very important part of the game, even though they rarely,

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 3>if ever get mentioned or touched the ball. Not worried

0:37:57.520 --> 0:38:03.759
<v Speaker 3>about the Packers, I am less impressed with the the

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:07.279
<v Speaker 3>the Vikings after last night. You know, I think the

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 3>Justin Jefferson Offensive Player of the Year crowd got a

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 3>rude awakening last night. I bet Stephan Diggs actually Offensive

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:19.440
<v Speaker 3>Player of the Year after two weeks. I think I

0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 3>think that there's a lot of proxy value on the

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:26.320
<v Speaker 3>Bills via different awards at the moment other than m

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:31.319
<v Speaker 3>VP that was that was one of them. But I

0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:33.239
<v Speaker 3>think you know that there was a lot of talk

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:37.439
<v Speaker 3>about that them just the Rams offense, the coach coming

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 3>over and everything just clicking. But the reality is Kirk

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:43.799
<v Speaker 3>Cousins is Kirk Cousins, and he's another guy.

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:44.359
<v Speaker 2>He's like a.

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 3>Jamis Winston where he's just in that tier of quarterbacks.

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:51.839
<v Speaker 3>Like are you really excited to have a playoff run

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 3>with him? Do you really think he's gonna win you

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:56.800
<v Speaker 3>a super Bowl?

0:38:57.160 --> 0:38:58.439
<v Speaker 2>Like he might.

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:01.240
<v Speaker 3>Everything might click and you might a Bengals like run,

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:04.920
<v Speaker 3>but it's not happening. You know, Like I'm not I'm

0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:07.920
<v Speaker 3>a Packers fan, I'm not a Vikings fan, but you

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 3>know I can always look over at Minnesota and be like, haha,

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 3>you have Kirk Cousins and they got no defense. At

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 3>the end of the day, it's you know they would

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 3>might you know, anyone any Vikings fan who tells you

0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:22.240
<v Speaker 3>they wouldn't take Aaron Rodgers right now is bualt face liar.

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 1>The way I put it with Kirk Cousins, Kirk Cousins

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 1>is a bus driver. That is all he's going to

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:30.399
<v Speaker 1>be good at for you. You can trust him most

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:33.359
<v Speaker 1>of the time to get the kids to school, like

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:35.360
<v Speaker 1>you can trust him in charge of the school bus.

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 1>You're not handing him the keys to a NASCAR to

0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:41.399
<v Speaker 1>to a NASCAR ride and say go out and win

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 1>this race. He's not going to be on that level

0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:46.359
<v Speaker 1>for you. He's a game manager and you need a

0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 1>great team around him to make him the best that

0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:51.960
<v Speaker 1>he can be. And then even when you get that,

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 1>and yes, there were some problems last night. One of

0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 1>the interceptions not really his fault with with Justin Jefferson

0:39:58.200 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 1>running the wrong kind of route and then yed Irv

0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Smith dropping a touchdown. There were moments that weren't his fault,

0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 1>but it's not like he looked good and he especially

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:11.360
<v Speaker 1>imploded late and that gives me a lot of cause

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 1>for worry. Like you said, he's not going to be

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:16.560
<v Speaker 1>able to go up against the top teams and be

0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 1>the difference maker that you need him to, you know, Matt, Yeah,

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:20.200
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Matt.

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, absolutely, you know he's Kirk Cousins That basically says

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 4>it all.

0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 1>All right, guys, right now, if you were to be

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:32.200
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0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 1>wanted to put it on an NFL future, what would

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:43.360
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0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:45.440
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0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 4>I honestly don't know if I have one specific future

0:40:57.080 --> 0:40:59.880
<v Speaker 4>that I would be looking at, but I do know

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 4>that you know, MVP tends to be it's a quarterback award,

0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:10.560
<v Speaker 4>and it tends to be very correlated to passing efficiency stats.

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 4>And Patrick Mahomes is still the number one quarterback in

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 4>passing efficiency or based on a lot of the stats

0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:21.800
<v Speaker 4>that you could look at, and that Chiefs team still

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:25.080
<v Speaker 4>has a pretty good chance to finish as the number

0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:27.520
<v Speaker 4>one seed or the number two seed in the AFC.

0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 4>And I think there is a lot of heat for

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:34.920
<v Speaker 4>the Buffalo Bills, and like I understand it, I think

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 4>they are the superior team. But I do think that

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:43.400
<v Speaker 4>Patrick Mahomes will probably be discounted in the MVP market

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:47.399
<v Speaker 4>as long as we see as long as we see

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:50.440
<v Speaker 4>Josh Allen continue to perform at a pretty high level.

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 4>But like I could see Patrick Mahomes basically stocking Josh

0:41:54.640 --> 0:41:57.319
<v Speaker 4>Allen for a lot of the season and then all

0:41:57.360 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 4>it takes is one bad Josh Allen performance in prime

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:03.359
<v Speaker 4>time and then all of a sudden, Patrick Mahomes looks

0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:07.320
<v Speaker 4>like the clear MVP. So I do think that Patrick

0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 4>Mahomes right now relative to Josh Allen offers value.

0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:13.759
<v Speaker 1>This is Joe Flacco erasure, but I guess I'll let

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:16.880
<v Speaker 1>it stand. Jason, how about you, Is there a future

0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 1>that you have your eye on?

0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:22.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I think Matt's right with with Mahomes. I've

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:25.960
<v Speaker 3>tended to bet a little bit on Mahomes every week

0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:29.040
<v Speaker 3>of the season the last couple of years. You know,

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:32.400
<v Speaker 3>it's always kind of one of those things. He is

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 3>so good on a regular basis, I think we take

0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:38.759
<v Speaker 3>for granted how good he actually is. You know, we're

0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:41.320
<v Speaker 3>just kind of immune to the greatness. After a while

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:46.719
<v Speaker 3>Mahomes is just top tier. He's one of the best

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 3>quarterbacks I've ever seen, So yeah, you get value there.

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:51.600
<v Speaker 3>And the thing is with a lot of these these

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 3>awards markets. You know, in baseball, you know there's there's

0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:57.440
<v Speaker 3>ten pictures at the beginning of the year you can

0:42:57.480 --> 0:43:00.840
<v Speaker 3>make cases for. There's plenty of players to make arguments

0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 3>for for MVP or Rookie.

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:02.879
<v Speaker 2>Of the Year.

0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:06.799
<v Speaker 3>In the NFL, the pool kind of thins itself out

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 3>pretty quickly, and it's it's not like you have to

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:11.439
<v Speaker 3>really go down deep and say, oh, well, I found

0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:13.120
<v Speaker 3>one hundred and one long shot. I found a two

0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:15.920
<v Speaker 3>hundred and one long shot. There aren't any long shots.

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:19.719
<v Speaker 3>There's there's no price discovery, there's no you know, the

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:25.080
<v Speaker 3>market's pretty pretty shaped with the futures. So you know

0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:27.680
<v Speaker 3>you're not getting value on Jalen Hurts at eight to one.

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:31.080
<v Speaker 3>You're not getting value on too at eighteen to one

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 3>or whatever.

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:34.200
<v Speaker 2>Probably right on my homes.

0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:35.879
<v Speaker 3>But I would if I was using a free bet,

0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:38.040
<v Speaker 3>I'd want something a bigger odds. I'd look maybe at

0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:40.400
<v Speaker 3>the Bengals, like I mentioned, to have the worst record.

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 3>If you can get you know, ninety to now, sorry,

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:44.759
<v Speaker 3>fifty to one is what it was. You know, I

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:47.400
<v Speaker 3>always like using a free bet for something at big

0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:51.920
<v Speaker 3>odds offensive Player of the Year. I mentioned Stefan Diggs.

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:56.440
<v Speaker 3>I think getting getting exposure to the Bills. You know,

0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:58.080
<v Speaker 3>you're not going to get a good price on them

0:43:58.120 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 3>to win the AFC or the Super Bowl point, but

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 3>offensive player of the Year on a guy like Diggs

0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:08.160
<v Speaker 3>who's currently leading in the league and touchdown catches, you

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:10.080
<v Speaker 3>know you can get him like seven to one most

0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 3>touchdown catches as well. I think that's not a terrible

0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 3>bet with the amount of times he's going to be

0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:19.279
<v Speaker 3>targeted in that offense. So you know, if you want

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:21.320
<v Speaker 3>Bill's exposure, I think that's the way to go. Or

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 3>Sean McDermott Coach of the Year, those are all sort

0:44:25.080 --> 0:44:28.000
<v Speaker 3>of proxies for Bill's being best team in the league

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:28.480
<v Speaker 3>right now.

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:31.799
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I like the idea. I like the idea of

0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:35.719
<v Speaker 4>Stefan Diggs as Offensive Player of the Year plus eight

0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:37.920
<v Speaker 4>point fifty right now at bet mgm.

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:39.239
<v Speaker 2>B.

0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a pretty good number. I might be placing

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:45.840
<v Speaker 1>that right after this. I had him anytime touchdown score

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 1>last night and now I so wish that those compounded

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:50.160
<v Speaker 1>How great would that be if you get paid out

0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:51.600
<v Speaker 1>three times on a hat trick like that?

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:56.319
<v Speaker 3>Well you could bet him to score three touchdowns.

0:44:55.840 --> 0:44:57.839
<v Speaker 1>You could, but I didn't really want to do that

0:44:57.880 --> 0:45:00.120
<v Speaker 1>because I wasn't expecting him to be I wasn't expecting

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 1>that amazing of her performance. But still I will to

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:06.880
<v Speaker 1>happily take my winnings there, and guys, I will happily

0:45:06.960 --> 0:45:09.960
<v Speaker 1>say that it has been a great episode. Jason, thank

0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:11.799
<v Speaker 1>you so much for coming on with us. Where can

0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:13.960
<v Speaker 1>people find the great work you're doing around the internet?

0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Find me on Viison, you know mon Gill Show usually

0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Wednesdays and Friday mornings, have a podcast comes out a

0:45:20.960 --> 0:45:23.799
<v Speaker 3>couple a couple days a week. I do a podcast

0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:28.120
<v Speaker 3>on Fridays with Pat Mao doing touchdown props for the weekend,

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<v Speaker 3>so all.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorts of stuff. You can find me anywhere. Just follow

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<v Speaker 2>me on Twitter basically.

0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:36.920
<v Speaker 1>And of course you can find him on Twitter. At Spreadipedia,

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:39.319
<v Speaker 1>you can find Matt at Matt f The Oracle, and

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:41.719
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<v Speaker 1>That is gonna do it for us here. Thank you

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:55.359
<v Speaker 1>again so much for being with us. We'll be back

0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:59.640
<v Speaker 1>on Thursday to break down the weekend slate of NFL action,

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<v Speaker 1>But for now, I'm Tom, He's Matt, and he's Jason,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's cash some tickets, guys,