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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Chris Harry with you on Chargers Weekly. We're

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Speaker 1: back in Los Angeles. A bit later, Haley Ellwood and

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Speaker 1: Ricky Henny of Chargers dot Com will join me to

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Speaker 1: put a bow on the NFL scouting combine. But first,

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Speaker 1: my guys, Dan Hansas and Mark Sessler NFL dot Com

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Speaker 1: joined Chargers Weekly from Indianapolis, and a special guest crashed

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Speaker 1: the party too. Check it out. All right, I'm here

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Speaker 1: with the King of NFL podcasts around the NFL crew

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Speaker 1: What Dan, Mark? What's up? Guys. That's a tremendous intro.

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Speaker 1: I'm all in. I love this podcast. I agree with

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Speaker 1: the analysis right out of the gate that Chargers Weekly

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Speaker 1: five stars. What's this week like been for you? Guys? Um?

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Speaker 1: I mean to me, I feel like the combine. It's

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Speaker 1: it's a quick week. We're only here for Dan. I

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Speaker 1: think it's leaving to nighties. Here for forty eight hours.

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Speaker 1: For me, about two days. It's a rush of coaches

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Speaker 1: to try to get some level of information out of them.

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Speaker 1: And then a lot of alcohol. Yeah, a lot of alcohol.

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Speaker 1: Dan said, it's really more you get a sense because

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Speaker 1: for us especially, we're not around the teams. Yeah, very

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Speaker 1: If you get a sense for these coaches who they are,

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Speaker 1: It's a tweet from Ian Rapp report or Adam Schefter

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Speaker 1: It's a really good at saying very little. Yeah, there

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Speaker 1: don't I don't have that. That's it's got a gift. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: more advanced football expert. It's like myself, like Gruden will say,

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Speaker 1: Gruden's plan is. And and John Gruden I thought was

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Speaker 1: He felt he'd be in it. Mixes the Higg's bulletproof.

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Speaker 1: I thought. Um. I thought Kyle Shanahan came across great.

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Speaker 1: Matt Patricia, I know you liked him, Dan Appicure, some

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Speaker 1: the Bears, the whole NFC North which I've which has

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Speaker 1: really giving him thoughtful answers here, Like it's a little

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Speaker 1: this is like Game of Thrones because I introduce these

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Speaker 1: you know, wow, I don't think he's the popper. Not

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Speaker 1: this time of year, Not this time of year. We

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Speaker 1: that's that's true. That's not it's not nothing inaccurate about that.

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Speaker 1: It was seriously an hour. I guess, hey, Chargers, the seventeen. Though,

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Speaker 1: real quick, what do you think defense? You you go offense,

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Speaker 1: So who'd you get? You had? You had rap sheet yesterday? Right,

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Speaker 1: we had rap sheet yesterday. Chase Goodbread of our college

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Speaker 1: So we we are more like the pro guys, and

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Speaker 1: pretty much everyone I've talked to over the past couple

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Speaker 1: of months, just all the radical changes that are going

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Speaker 1: on in the division. You have a new coach in

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Speaker 1: Oakland and John Gruden, who spoke at the Combine a

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Speaker 1: lot of new coaches under advanced Joseph in Denver, and

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Speaker 1: then some of these pending trades in Kansas really going

432
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Speaker 1: to alter the landscape of their roster. Yet you look

433
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Speaker 1: at the Chargers, they were in this position last year

434
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Speaker 1: where they had a lot of change. This year, continuity

435
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Speaker 1: on the football field and in the front office and

436
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Speaker 1: coaching stuff. Absolutely, and that yeah, continuity stability, I forget.

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Speaker 1: I was asking one of my video guys, like who

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Speaker 1: which experts said the word stability of them. That was

439
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Speaker 1: a general takeaway. It remains a constant and that's super important.

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Speaker 1: And to your point, so much change happened with this

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Speaker 1: team a year ago, but to now keep what's been

442
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Speaker 1: going at a couple of pieces, lose a couple pieces, whatever,

443
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Speaker 1: even things out, it's a It bodes well for them

444
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Speaker 1: heading into two eighteen. You mentioned Annie cut pieces and

445
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Speaker 1: retaining cut pieces, and the Chargers are getting back up

446
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Speaker 1: a guy who's pretty talented, and that's Jason Verrett. He's

447
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Speaker 1: a little bit of an X factor because you know

448
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Speaker 1: he's missed a lot of times recently, but everyone knows

449
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Speaker 1: you need cover corners. The Chargers have arguably the best

450
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Speaker 1: in the league in Casey Hayward. They have a young

451
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Speaker 1: guy who continue to take those steps in development, and

452
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Speaker 1: Trevor Williams, and now all of a sudden you add

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Speaker 1: Jason Verrett, who's a pro bowler and has prove that

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Speaker 1: he is what he is. But if he's able to

455
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's an outstanding secondary. And going back to

456
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Speaker 1: the point about continuity, I think also that starts with

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Speaker 1: head coach Anthony Lynn. And I think one of the

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Speaker 1: biggest takeaways from him that I jotted down was in

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Speaker 1: his pressor he was asked what he learned about his

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Speaker 1: first year, and he said that everyone in the building

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Speaker 1: got the memo that I was the head coach except

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Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, And I was kind of stunned at

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Speaker 1: that statement. I mean, he said, you know, he needed

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Speaker 1: to not be a coordinator, he needed to not be

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Speaker 1: a position coach. He needed to let his guys do

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Speaker 1: that job and he be the head coach. And Adam

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Speaker 1: Kaplan had said in terms of retaining Gus Bradley and

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Speaker 1: Ken wizzen Hunt, having a year now where all these

469
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Speaker 1: guys work together, they worked the kinks out, they won

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Speaker 1: nine of the last twelve, got to nine and seven.

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Speaker 1: It can only get better. From here and everyone knows

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Speaker 1: the role and everyone knows how to kind of work

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Speaker 1: with each other, and that that'll be really great for

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Speaker 1: this team. You bring up Anthony Lynn. I talked to

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Speaker 1: him about his Hall of Fame coaching tree with Bill Walsh,

476
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Speaker 1: Bill Parcels, Mike Shanahan. I mean even even Rex Ryan

477
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Speaker 1: Rex Rand is not a Hall of Famer, but he

478
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Speaker 1: had a heck of a run in New York and

479
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Speaker 1: learning from all of these Hall of Fame coaches. To

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Speaker 1: your point, Haley, something clicked for him. I think maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe right after that Owen four start. He never wavered

482
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Speaker 1: and the guys right behind him hundred percent of the way.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say one other thing I learned from him,

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Speaker 1: the comment he's a rock star, like Anthony Lynn walks

485
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Speaker 1: into a room and people go to him. He like

486
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Speaker 1: people gravity towards Allen if they do. When he just

487
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Speaker 1: learned that that's a trademark. I know, but we see

488
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Speaker 1: it here all the time. So when you go someplace

489
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Speaker 1: else and you'll see especially the combine, Haley, because everybody's there,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have thirty two coaches and gms, you

491
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Speaker 1: have all the media there, and you're right that Thursday.

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Speaker 1: I believe it was when he spoke. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: a good morning football. I think all of us talk

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Speaker 1: to him in different forms, you know, whether it was

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Speaker 1: you know, video or podcast or text, and he looked relaxed.

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Speaker 1: To me, he looked like he's been there before and

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Speaker 1: he's really confident heading the eighteen. I think my favorite

498
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Speaker 1: moment of the combat with Anthony Lynn and just his

499
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Speaker 1: transition going forward about maybe some Chargers needs or big

500
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Speaker 1: questions like everyone want to know, is the Charger's going

501
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Speaker 1: to have a quarterback of the future afterwards And he's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think we may have that on the

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Speaker 1: roster right now. In Cardinal Jones, he was not afraid

504
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Speaker 1: to plant his flag down there and say, I am

505
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Speaker 1: not sure that this guy right now is not necessarily

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Speaker 1: our quarterback of the picture because he has some talent

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Speaker 1: and he has a skill set that you did not

508
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Speaker 1: see often around the league. I want to get into

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Speaker 1: quarterback before we do that. Just putting a bow on

510
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Speaker 1: Coach Lynn and to LESCo what we learned. We didn't

511
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Speaker 1: talk about Thomas Presser, but I know we all had

512
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Speaker 1: an opportunity to talk to him as well. What did

513
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Speaker 1: you guys. Take from Thomas press conference. I mean, Tom's

514
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Speaker 1: are doing this and now this is his sixth time,

515
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Speaker 1: and he was open and honest. He was asked about

516
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Speaker 1: the kicking game, and obviously he knows that that has

517
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Speaker 1: to get better. And what I thought was really interesting

518
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Speaker 1: was his take on, you know, salary caps and how those,

519
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Speaker 1: like we mentioned earlier, some of these teams are going

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Speaker 1: to have a lot of money early on, so you

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Speaker 1: don't know how that shakes up. But Tom's always an

522
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Speaker 1: honest guy, as honest as you can be in this

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Speaker 1: kind of a situation at least. But he also mentioned that,

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Speaker 1: you know, Cardale, he's got some talent. And we did

525
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Speaker 1: not see much of Cardal Jones outside of the preseason game,

526
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Speaker 1: but you have to remember he came to this team,

527
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Speaker 1: what three weeks before that, but Tom and Lynn they

528
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Speaker 1: saw him every day I practice. Now, this they say

529
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Speaker 1: is going to be a major, major off season for him,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's a guy that all charges fans,

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Speaker 1: based on what Tom and Lynn both said, really need

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Speaker 1: to keep an eye on right now. Haley. I agree

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Speaker 1: with what Ricky says too, because I think with Cardale Jones,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of an unfair grade in preseason being that

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Speaker 1: he just stepped into the building. Yeah, you know, right

536
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Speaker 1: in a brand new situation. And you know, Phillispin under

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Speaker 1: center here hasn't missed the start since O six he

538
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Speaker 1: was thrown into the fire. And so, like to Ricky's point,

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Speaker 1: this will be a huge offseason for him because he'll

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Speaker 1: take what he learned in twenty seventeen and now apply

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Speaker 1: it to twenty eighteen with that offseason program. And it's

542
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Speaker 1: like you look at guys like Mike Williams, you look

543
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Speaker 1: at guys like Forest Lamp who also didn't get that opportunity. Really,

544
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Speaker 1: their growth this year will be very interesting and you know,

545
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Speaker 1: hopefully measured and trending in a positive direction. And then

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Speaker 1: one thing that both Tom and Lynn said when I

547
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Speaker 1: asked what this team needs to get better at, they

548
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Speaker 1: weren't afraid to say our linebackers need to play better.

549
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Speaker 1: They absolutely need to. So I think it's fair to

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Speaker 1: say they're looking at avenues to do that, whether it's

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Speaker 1: free agency, whether it's the draft, whether it's developing some

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Speaker 1: of these young guys, because there were a lot of

553
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Speaker 1: undrafted guys that the team brought in that they are

554
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Speaker 1: high on. But I think you guys need to open competition.

555
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Speaker 1: I think you're going to see in one way or

556
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Speaker 1: another some new guys added in, and that's one area

557
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Speaker 1: the Charges expect to get better in, and quite frankly,

558
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Speaker 1: they have to. Free agency is going to dictate a

559
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Speaker 1: lot of what happens in the draft, and that starts

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. You know, I talk to so many people

561
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Speaker 1: about Kirk Cousins and case Keenum and all these unrestricted

562
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Speaker 1: free agents that are quarterbacks. I also got a lot

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Speaker 1: of questions about our quarterback situations. I know you guys

564
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Speaker 1: did as well selecting a quarterback in the first round

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Speaker 1: of the second round. I think there's pros and cons

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Speaker 1: to each. I know a lot of people have varying opinions.

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Speaker 1: What did you take from that, Rickie? It's kind of

568
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Speaker 1: funny because I think universally, pundin sneak this is the time.

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Speaker 1: I know Ian Rapperport came out when I was talking

570
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Speaker 1: to him and said, this is absolutely the time. But

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Speaker 1: what's funny is that while they say this is the

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Speaker 1: time to do it, they also said this is absolutely

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Speaker 1: not the time to transition away from Philip Rivers like

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Speaker 1: Phillips got two, three, four, like a good amount of

575
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Speaker 1: time left. He just came off of leading the league's

576
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Speaker 1: number one passing off And so while there is some

577
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Speaker 1: certainly some high caliber players in the first round, maybe

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Speaker 1: a guy in the second round that could be just

579
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Speaker 1: as good as those those first round guys like Mason Rudolph,

580
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Speaker 1: who actually worked out with Philip a couple of weeks ago. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, overall, they say this is the time to

582
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Speaker 1: do it, but it is not time anytime soon to

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Speaker 1: move on from Philip Rivers. Helly, do you think that

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Speaker 1: the fact that the Chargers went offense, offense, offense last

585
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Speaker 1: year in the first three rounds, two of those guys

586
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Speaker 1: didn't really contribute as much as huge just because they

587
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Speaker 1: were injured. Do you think that that gives the Chargers

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Speaker 1: some leeway to maybe think about a quarterback round. I

589
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Speaker 1: think it could. I think when we were talking, we

590
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,959
Speaker 1: were sitting there talking with their Vikings radio guys, and

591
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: they were talking to us, They're like, why don't you

592
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Speaker 1: guys take a quarterback? You know, kind of like the

593
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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport thing. For me, I look at it this way,

594
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Speaker 1: a pro is if you take a quarterback in the

595
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Speaker 1: first round, you're obviously building for your future. And it's

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Speaker 1: not a slight on Philip Rivers at all, because he's

597
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Speaker 1: the guy, he's quarterback, he's gonna be under center next year,

598
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Speaker 1: year after whatever. But this team picks at seventeen, and

599
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Speaker 1: it's like, how many of those guys, those big name

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Speaker 1: top five quarterbacks will be there at seventeen? Do you

601
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Speaker 1: risk mortgaging your future? Possibly if you want to move

602
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Speaker 1: up and get one of them. That's kind of a

603
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: thing that it's like a little bit of a twofold

604
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Speaker 1: thing unless there's a guy that you think is in

605
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Speaker 1: you know you can get in the second round or

606
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Speaker 1: later round. Daniel Jrmyin rattle off a couple names, but

607
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Speaker 1: it's kind of like a two part it's a two

608
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Speaker 1: part thing for me, it is and ricky for me too.

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Speaker 1: Let's say, as Haley said, let's see five quarterbacks go

610
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Speaker 1: in the first round. Let's say five quarterbacks go in

611
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Speaker 1: the top fifteen. You're pushing up so much talent at

612
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Speaker 1: premium positions that the Chargers can snatch up. Now, this

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Speaker 1: is my opinion on it, and I'm gonna say I

614
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Speaker 1: think this is the absolute right opinion on it. I'm

615
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: not afraid to say that. But if the Chargers do

616
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Speaker 1: take one at seventeen, if they do move up to

617
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Speaker 1: get one, it's because they love him. They have had

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Speaker 1: opportunities in the past to get one. And this one

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Speaker 1: quote from Anthony Lynn really resonated with me in which

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Speaker 1: he said, I plan on being here for the long

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Speaker 1: haul when he was asked if they were gonna want

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Speaker 1: to maybe use the first round pick. You know, I'm

623
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Speaker 1: gonna be here for the long haul, and if I

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Speaker 1: can get my future quarterback right now, you know, why

625
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Speaker 1: wouldn't I. I'm looking at the big picture here now. Personally,

626
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Speaker 1: I think Philip's playing outstanding level. I think you could

627
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Speaker 1: really capitalize on this window. And that's the playmakers around him,

628
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Speaker 1: which is why if the Chargers do choose to take

629
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Speaker 1: one early, it's because they really, really really believe in him.

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Speaker 1: Who did you guys like from this quarterback crop. You know,

631
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Speaker 1: obviously we had the Big five. Darnold didn't throw, Lamar

632
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Speaker 1: Jackson didn't run. So I think it was Rosen that

633
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Speaker 1: did everything. It was Baker Mayfield that did everything. It's

634
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen that did everything. Then there's some other guys

635
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Speaker 1: you mentioned, Mace Rudolph Kyle Laletta from Richmond, Luke Folk

636
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Speaker 1: from Washington State. When you looked at some of the

637
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks stuff that happened over the weekend, did anything stand out?

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Speaker 1: I think one of the guys whose name had come

639
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Speaker 1: up like early last year was Josh Allen and then

640
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,479
Speaker 1: he kind of fell by the wayside because you had

641
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: the LA kids kind of come in, kind of hot

642
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: and all that. But he, I mean, he threw what

643
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: like a sixty yard past seventy yard pass or something

644
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,959
Speaker 1: like it. I don't know one hundred who knows. He

645
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: had a really great arm. And I think one of

646
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: the things that I read, I think it was Pete

647
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: Prisco on CBS dot Com said, um CBS Sports said

648
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: that he was so impressive with his knowledge of the league,

649
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: but he was impressive as a as a person. And look,

650
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: these guys, some may come in and start right away,

651
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: Others may come in and get the opportunity to sit.

652
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: But whoever is vying for a quarterback position in the NFL,

653
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: you're leading a team, so you better be as good

654
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: of a person and as good of a leader as

655
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: you are in your skills and as a player. You know,

656
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: Ricky sometimes we get caught up in the combine and

657
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: that clouds a lot of opinions that people had before

658
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: the combine. I remember talking to Adam Schefter last year

659
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: and he said, I think it was an NFL high

660
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: ranking official said that Josh Allen is gonna be the No.

661
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: One overall pick in twenty eighteen. Obviously, his year didn't

662
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: go as planned. He played against competition that wasn't as

663
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: great as a Rosen or Darnold, but that talent was

664
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Speaker 1: awfully hard to ignore this weekend. And there's one thing

665
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: in particular, and that's one thing you really can't teach,

666
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: and his arm is special, I mean special. But at

667
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: the same time, what was disappointing to people this past

668
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: year was his accuracy wasn't there. He completed a very

669
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: small percentage of his passes, but you know, in comparison

670
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Speaker 1: to what the league average is. So you have to

671
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: kind of balance those two things, because you can have

672
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: a canon, but if you can't put it on the

673
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: right spot, well, you know, look at Kyle Boehler, look

674
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: at JaMarcus Russell. These are guys who do the same

675
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: thing that Josh Allen did. And the important thing for

676
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,479
Speaker 1: him is to prove that you were more than just

677
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: that rocket arm kind of guy. I think there are,

678
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: like we've mentioned it, some really top tier quarterbacks. Each

679
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: has maybe one or two things that they need to

680
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: kind of prove they could do in addition, and I

681
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: think that's what Josh Allen's gonna need to really show

682
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: during his other workouts. Can you teach accuracy though, that's

683
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: the big thing. I don't know if you can teach accurates.

684
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: I don't know either. I mean some people like to

685
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: point out that maybe the people that he throw it

686
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: through to didn't have you know, the skill set is

687
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: some other teams. But the way I personally look at it,

688
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: if you are that kind of special quarterback, you elevate

689
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: those kind of players. What's the biggest need for this team?

690
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: We talk about quarterback. We got a pro bowler, we

691
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: got a future Hall of Famer here under center. We're

692
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: gonna be fine here for the next couple of years

693
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: at least. But when you look at this roster and

694
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: where they may be a little bit deficient, Hailey, what

695
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: do you think I would say? And we talked a

696
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: little bit about the linebacker position. The linebacker like an

697
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: interior d lineman, someone to help the thrush defense. That

698
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: was the one sort of achilles heel in this defense

699
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: all season, as good as they were, would they give

700
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: a four point nine guards per carry? I mean that's

701
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: a lot. You don't want to do that. So if

702
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: you can get a guy like just a plug and

703
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: play guy, a guy who did it in college, who

704
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: can translate to the NFL, I think that can really

705
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: really help this defense and take it to another level.

706
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: I do agree. And there are a couple top tier

707
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: linebacker prospects that I think people think would help the

708
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: Chargers right off the bat. And that's this nineteen year

709
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: old freak of an athlete who was super like six

710
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: foot four, Tremaine Edmonds at a Virginia Tech. And then

711
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: there's someone like, you know, obviously the kid at a

712
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: Georgia Quan Smith, absolutely like, but will they be there

713
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: at seventeen? Well, I don't know if Tremaine Edmonds is

714
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: gonna be there. He's like six five, he's an incredible

715
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: batte Bone said, there's no comp form unless you're talking

716
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: like Brian or Lacker. So his size and just his

717
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: just sheer athletic ability. You don't know if like that's

718
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: going to be there at top ten. Roquan Smith is

719
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: a guy who just put up impressive numbers in twenty seventeen.

720
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: Was really a star during the playoffs too. You wondered

721
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: about him at seventeen. I don't know if he's gonna

722
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: be there exactly. I don't think they are. So if

723
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: the Chargers look at at these top players and I've

724
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: to see their draft wards, nobody knows what that's gonna be.

725
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: I think you need to have various ways. They're on

726
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: record of saying it needs to get better. You need

727
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: to have various avenues of which to do that. And

728
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: there are some guys, depth players that are out there.

729
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you know the field good story

730
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: of the draft wasishi Kim Griffin and he's a linebacker.

731
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: How about that. There's no words for it, no words.

732
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's unbelievable. And I think the funny thing

733
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: was he was a guy whose invitation came late, so

734
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: he was charted to the party, but he showed out.

735
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's that's I think, not speaking from

736
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: an experience because I will never intend to combat in

737
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: my life, but I think that's what you want as

738
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: a player. You want to be that guy to go

739
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: out there and check all the boxes. And he did.

740
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: Beat the odds and beat the odds. Beat the odds

741
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: because at the Senior Bowl he was invited to the

742
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Phil Savage, who does a great job at

743
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl every year, said he's a special team's demon.

744
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: I think he said that at the beginning of the

745
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: week he got overall practice player of the Week at

746
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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. That combined invitation that you mentioned here,

747
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: like came on January thirtieth, he ran the fastest forty

748
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: time a linebacker has ever run since two thousand and three.

749
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: He put up twenty reps on bench press without a

750
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: left hand. That's I mean, that is unbelievable. And you

751
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: mentioned it, guys, linebacker is a need. This guy is

752
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: catapulting up draft boards right now and it's inspiring to see.

753
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: And I've seen players from other teams tweet about him

754
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: and just be like, I want this guy on my

755
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: team because he's an inspiration. Let me ask you a question,

756
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: where would you draft him? I think it's hard not

757
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: to legitimately see him as like a Day two pick,

758
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: Like I think he might like around like a round

759
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: three pick. I don't I don't know, what do you

760
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: guys think. I think that he came in here as

761
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: someone who has the talent and the ability to you know,

762
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: he is going to help you on special teams, and

763
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: that's invaluable. The Chargers do need to improve the special teams.

764
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: They did a good job in coverage unit, but obviously

765
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: need to get better there and he's someone who could

766
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: help in that area. But what he also did, I

767
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: think he may have moved himself into the discussion of

768
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: day two and considering what he's overcome that I don't know, honestly,

769
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm being honestly. It's maybe a little bit of hyperbole,

770
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: but I don't know if there has been or ever

771
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: will be as inspirational combined story as what we just saw.

772
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Look at his tape. Look at

773
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: his tape from the Peach Bawl against Alburn. He was

774
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: a defensive player of the game. Plus he has NFL

775
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: bloodlines his brother, he can play football, He could play football.

776
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it's I was just really happy to see

777
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: him do what he did at the Combine because it's

778
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: he did the exact same thing as the Senior Bowl

779
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: and it's just it's really cool to see those types

780
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: of stories one hundred percent. And I think, like Ricky said,

781
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: he may have moved his you know, his name and

782
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 1: him up a day or two in the draft and whatnot.

783
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 1: And that's I think, like talking about what I said earlier,

784
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: that's what you want to do. You want to go

785
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: in and you want to do whatever you can to

786
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: improve your draft stock and make sure that you're you know,

787
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: you're a guy that you want teams to come after you.

788
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: And I think he did that. It's a nice segue

789
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: into this next question because I think we're all agreement

790
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: made the most impressive prospect was Shaken Griffin. Yeah, I

791
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: think we're in agreement there. Besides Griffin, who impressed you most, Ricky,

792
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: regardless of position? I mean it wasn't Orlando Brown. I

793
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: mean he put forward one he had he had a

794
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: tough combine. Because Orlando Brown was regarded as a first

795
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: round pick going into this, I think he still should

796
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: be simply because well, yeah, I mean the combine is

797
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: one thing, but how often do you need to see

798
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: a you know, offensive lineman run that kind of Fordy

799
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: His bench price was obviously will get looked at. But

800
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: I look at what Baker Mayfield said, and when he

801
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 1: was on the field against some of the best competition

802
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: in the league, he didn't allow a sack, So I

803
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: mean you can't obviously. I think his follow up workouts

804
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: his pro day is going to be really telling. I

805
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: would expect and hope a guy like that would would

806
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: do better, and I think he will. But to get

807
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: back to what you said, it's kind of a low

808
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: hanging fruit here, but it's a quant Barkley. Yeah, I

809
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: mean that was I mean who I talked to LT

810
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: on Saturday and he said Barkley is being considered him

811
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: one overall. When Bart, when you have Ladanian Tomilton say

812
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 1: this guy maybe the best running back prospects I've seen.

813
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: That to me speaks volume is more than anything else.

814
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: He could say, Yeah, that's a that's a mic dropper

815
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. And I think

816
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: the one thing with Orlando Brown too, And and you

817
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: know this, this kind of goes with the the Darnold

818
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: and whatnot. You get the guys at their pro days

819
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: and you hope for maybe better results in certain areas.

820
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: I don't think you know, I think sometimes we read

821
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: too much into the combine. But um, yeah, but yeah,

822
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: And speaking of say quonbar claiming my God, like I

823
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: just there are no words. That guy is out of control.

824
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: This running back group, I think it's quite deep. And

825
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: we talked a little bit earlier about maybe positions the

826
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: Chargers may look at. I I'm telling you, I think

827
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: the Chargers could very well add a running back in

828
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: here if it's deep. H people were saying guys like

829
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: Rashot Penny out of STSU would be a good fit.

830
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: And there look Melvin Gordon. It was funny just to

831
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: touch back on what we learned from Tom and Lane

832
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: and most people were like, you know, Gordon's your bell cow, Like,

833
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: how do you want to maybe limit his workload? And

834
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: He's like, I want to see him go more. I

835
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: mean he got you know, we want to run the

836
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: ball even more. But you need somebody who could emulate

837
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: his skill sets. So if you get someone in who

838
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: could you know really when when Melvin needs to there

839
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: not lose a beat and then you have that change

840
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: of pace back in Eckler. I think running back is

841
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: an area that is deep in this draft and could

842
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: really add that another dynamic to a great offense to

843
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: really help the Chargers take that next step in twenty eighteen.

844
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: I think a guy that we talked about during Chargers

845
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: Live over the draft was Royce Freeman out of Oregon.

846
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: That's right. He's an Imperial guy, and I talked I

847
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: saw him when he played in high school. But looking

848
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: at what he ran, he ran, I mean, he's five

849
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: eleven two twenty nine. He ran a four point five

850
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: four forty solid and people are saying, like his draft

851
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: stock is kind of rising. He's a little more of

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Speaker 1: that bruising, like thick kind of back. But but interesting

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Speaker 1: to see, you know, somewhat of a formal local guy

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Speaker 1: who went up to Oregon and now is you know,

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00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: kind of trying to make it. And I was pleased

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Speaker 1: having watched him in high school. See like, Okay, he's

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Speaker 1: on the up swing, and that's good. That's good. I

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Speaker 1: pose this question. I pose this question to Matt Bowen,

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Speaker 1: and I'll pose it to you guys too. How tempted

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Speaker 1: would you be, not only if you're the Chargers, but

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Speaker 1: any NFL team to select a running back in the

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Speaker 1: second or third round based on the depth that we

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00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: have in this draft class. I am a firm believer

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Speaker 1: in taking the best player available, which is why I

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Speaker 1: think Quon Barkley very well could go first over all

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Speaker 1: of the Browns who have that fourth pick where they

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Speaker 1: could add a quarterback or maybe one in free agency

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Speaker 1: or a trade from the Chargers. And you have the

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00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: ability to add somebody that could help your offense, you

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Speaker 1: take them. And I'd be very happy with that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I agree with that. And look that happened last year

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00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: in the second and third rounds where they took two

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00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: offensive linemen. They knew they had to bolster that unit.

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Speaker 1: They did it, so why not do it again if

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Speaker 1: you feel that you can do that with another position?

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Speaker 1: And Rick, Yeah, I think too. It goes even beyond

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Speaker 1: emulating Gordon because you look at the multiple types of

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Speaker 1: running backs that