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Now your hosts, Nate Newton and Kevin Gray, 7 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to week number ten of the National Football League 8 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: at his Cowboys crosstalk live at the Cowboys Club at 9 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: the Star and Chris joining us on the Dallas Cowboys 10 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: Radio Network on your Home with the Cowboys one oh 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: five through the fan. Kevin Gray, with the six time 12 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: Pro Bowler, three times Super Bowl champion, my co host 13 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 1: every single week here at the Cowboys Club. He is 14 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: Nate Newton. Ate, what's going on? Good to see off 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: the Bible? You know you can add a Black College 16 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame ring the accolades. Just keep coming, stack up. 17 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: I know I got some more coming. I got some 18 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: people call me if the induct me into something else. 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: This thing is jumping, this thing is m ring out 20 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 1: of this week. I believe that looking forward to many 21 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: more Hall of Fame inductions for Nate Newton. Joining us 22 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: this week of Dallas Cowboys dot Com Proud Missouri Tiger 23 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: just like myself. Mickey Spagnolah Dallas Cowboys dot Com joints 24 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: this week good to see. How are you off to 25 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: buy week? Mad Missouri Tiger? After this week? I went 26 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: to the game Saturday, Oh did you okay? Against Kentucky? 27 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: Saw the weirdest play I think I've ever seen in 28 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: college football? Better than five downs stuff bringing up not 29 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: only five joining us this Remember the kick in the 30 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: end zone with the guy they were throwing the ball, 31 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: the guy from Nebraska, and he he flubbed it and 32 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: he was laying on the ground and he kicked it 33 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: up in the air and before it hit the ground 34 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: and somebody else caught it for the winning touchdown. How 35 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: about this one? Two minutes to go. Kentucky's punting from 36 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: their own forty one yard line and the deep snapper 37 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: sails it over the punter's head and it rolls all 38 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: the way to the three yard line. The punter goes back, 39 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: picks it up. The guy from Missouri on special teams 40 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: as tracking him down and he's going to tackle him, 41 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: and the guy tries to punt the ball and he 42 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: gets it off and they called roughing the punter thirty 43 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 1: eight yards behind the line of scrimmage. Yeah uh, And 44 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: and they said he was still in the tackle box. Interesting, 45 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: the tackle box went from Columbia to Saint Louis. Basically 46 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: it was the most up by the way. Joining us 47 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: this week our Cowboys legend nine, your NFL veteran all 48 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: of course with the Dallas Cabots from a running back 49 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: fullback member of the Black College Football Hall of Fame, 50 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: much like Nate Newton, right, that's right of Winstem Salem 51 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: State University, Timmy Newsom, joining us this week on Cowboy 52 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: Us this week. How are you? I'm doing well, Thank 53 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: you sir, Thank you for having me. I appreciate you 54 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: stopping down with us on this Wednesday night as we 55 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: get you ready for Cowboys Packers. Always a unique football 56 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: game when these two teams get together to Dallas Cowboys 57 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: coming off of their bye week at six and two, 58 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: second place in the NFC East by virtue of their 59 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: win over the New York Football Giants. Nate, I want 60 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: to start with you as a team comes off it's 61 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: bye week. What's the mindset. Are guys feeling refreshed, that 62 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: got their treatment, We're able to get away for a 63 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: little bit. What's that mindset going into that next week 64 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: coming off of that byeway? You know these guys, man, 65 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna lose. You know, you're ready to get back. 66 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: This is what you do, This is what you love doing. 67 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: The guys that they see the light, you know, they 68 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: starting to see the light. They're halfway there. You know 69 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: they can see the position and they see that they're 70 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: a good team. So everybody's feeling good. You hope everybody 71 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: done the right thing doing the off week and everybody 72 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 1: got back safe. We need to hear anything on the news. 73 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: Sound man, everybody's feeling good? Man? I mean I know 74 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: I used to feel good because those two days Jimmy 75 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: Jones used to give us all Saraday and Sunday. Yeah, 76 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: that was enough. It was on the two days for 77 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson Mickey for this team at six and two, 78 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: now the second half fully ahead of them, starting with 79 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and the green by Packers, not nearly the 80 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: same Packers team that we thought coming into this year. 81 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: How did the Cowboys in your mind approach this week? 82 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: Knowing how difficult things have been for the Packers and 83 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: what they have to do to ensure those things from 84 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: main difficult. Yeah, you can't. You can't think that way. 85 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: You gotta act like the Packers are eight, no. Or nine, 86 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: And no, they still have Aaron Rodgers. You know, he's 87 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: still difficult. It's a difficult place to play. The weather's 88 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: gonna get cold. Uh So, Yeah, you can't take anything 89 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: for granted in this in this league, they've got to 90 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: worry about themselves. They got to worry about the defense, 91 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: stopping the run, which they haven't done a very good 92 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: job of, and the offense even after the explosion and 93 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: against the Bears and ending up with forty nine points 94 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: thanks to seven with the defense. Now they got to 95 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: prove they're consistent. You know, before Dak got back, they 96 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: were averaging nineteen points a game and that average has 97 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: got to pick up to twenty five to thirty if 98 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: they think they're going to do something this year. Timmy, 99 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: when you look at this team and the Cowboys going 100 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: into this week against the Green Bay Packers, what was 101 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: the mindset for you as a player, knowing the task 102 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: in hand and what you had in front of you, 103 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: going up against a tough opponent that has been struggling 104 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: this year, and what you guys wanted to make sure 105 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: you did. I guess that opponent, Well, you try to 106 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: leave the record at the door, because if you don't, 107 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: you will get complacent. And so coach Lander always coached 108 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: us on not being complacent leading up to a game 109 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: like this. As Mickey said, Aaron Rodgers is still Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, 110 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: and he's a great quarterback. They've just had a lot 111 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: of injuries. I mean, they've been decimated by injury, and 112 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: so that adrenaline for them will get flowing because it 113 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: is the Dallas Cowboys coming into Green Bay, this team 114 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: speaking of inters, I'm sorry, speaking of injuries. So I 115 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: got this injury report and listing on here either did 116 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: not practice or limited for the Green Bay Packers. This 117 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: is how long the list is. There's sixteen names on 118 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: it and ten guys did not practice today. And one 119 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: of those was Aaron Rodgers with a thumb injury of 120 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: all things, right, a quarterback with a thumb injury. So yeah, 121 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: those injuries are still kind of haunting them. Yes, this 122 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: team in Dallas looking to continuous momentum. They continue a 123 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: string of four straight games against the NFC North, they 124 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: beat the Detroit Lions, were able to handle the business 125 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: against the Chicago Bears, and now take on an Aaron 126 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: Rodgers team that's struggling right now, losers of five straight 127 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: football games. Nate, I just have a hard time imagining 128 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,239 Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers left football team when he's healthy losing 129 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: six straight football games. But that's where they are right 130 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: now and staring down the barrel of and losing six 131 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: straight games. What have you noticed on tape about some 132 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: of the things that Aaron Rodgers let Packers are struggling 133 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,239 Speaker 1: with that the Cowboys can take advantage of on Sundays. 134 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: He's not He's not. He's not. Excuse me, He's not 135 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: a one of Cord with his wide receivers. Yeah. I 136 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: have never, Timmy, I have never seen an Aaron Rodgers 137 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: team this late in the season that where they even 138 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: when they've had rookie receivers, two year receivers in they 139 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: boy the fourth for fifth game, they're one of one 140 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: of Cord. And this thing I've never seen it. You 141 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: can see where he actually throwing the ball where it 142 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: should be and he's receivers somewhere else. They they normally 143 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: get very intelligent route and running receivers that can catch. 144 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: They're very inconsistent in catching the ball. They don't runs 145 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: besides routes. Now, he threw a few bad red zone 146 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: passes this past week. But I'm gonna tell you something, man, 147 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: when I look at Aaron Rodgers, I see one person. 148 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: And I don't know if you've ever seen in this movie, 149 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: but if you ever go see John Wick, if you 150 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: don't stomp the life out of him, he will rise 151 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: up and get you. And I'm telling you this is 152 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: John Wick. This man Aaron Rodgers, he gonna he's grown 153 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: in and crying, but he's gonna be throwing that ball 154 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: comes Sunday was a movie credit for sounds like, yeah, man, 155 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: you gotta get rid of the booget man, Timmy. When 156 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: you look at the Packers, what do you see and 157 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: what they're struggling with that you feel like the Cowboys 158 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: going in on Sunday can really make sure that they 159 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: are able to do well against that football team. Well, 160 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, I think said it best. He said, we 161 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: just need to get back to basics. They're trying to 162 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: be too fancied on offense. Simplified that too much movement, 163 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: and so I think it's confusing the young guys who 164 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: are trying to run those routes, and so the timing 165 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: is really off. And so he just won't say everybody 166 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: to settle down and just get back to basis. This 167 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: is a team in Dallas that's a four and a 168 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: half point favorite on the road against the Green Bay Packers. 169 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: Gonna be a little chilly on Sunday afternoon, that game, 170 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: the late game at three twenty five. Mickey, what's the 171 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: one thing that the Cowboys have to do on offense 172 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: to give a banged up Packers team missing Rashan Gary 173 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: Dumb for the year with the torn ACL that's gonna 174 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: give them the advantage on Sunday after Well number one, 175 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: continue to run the football the way they have the 176 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: last couple games, and protect dat And I think if 177 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: you do those two things, you know you have a 178 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: chance to win up there. And you know, one of 179 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: the things that I don't know if you guys are 180 00:09:54,160 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: aware of, but the Cowboys are at lambeau Field are 181 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: two and nine, two and nine, and both of those 182 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: wins one in two thousand and eight and one in 183 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, Dax rookie. That's right. Yeah, that's it. You guys, 184 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: did you win any games up there? Don't care pay tim, 185 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: I didn't care. Well, I'm too old because we played 186 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: at the Milwaukee County Stadium. When I played in Milwauke 187 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: County City, we whooped them. Yeah when when when we're 188 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: in the wrong stadium If I remember, right, weren't the 189 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: benches on the same players was on the same side. Yeah, yeah, 190 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: that's what I yea, yeah, I'm just saying. I mean, 191 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: I thought you were talking about the fans. I'm like 192 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: they went all on the same time. I'm sorry. This 193 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: is a past so it's kind of house of horrors 194 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: up there has been for the Cowboys. Yeah. Yeah. And 195 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: somebody asked Dak today, they go, what do you remember 196 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: about beating them your rookie year? He said, that was 197 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: the game I threw my first interception in the NFL. 198 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: And yeah, but he had three touchdowns. Be sure, did 199 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: the likes of Bryce Butler Cole Beasley catching touchdowns that day. 200 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: The Packers in the last seven games have won six 201 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: of the last seven versus the Dallas Cowboys, So the 202 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: Cowboys looking to break a little bit of this momentum 203 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: that the Packers have had over the last several meetings. Obviously, 204 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of conversation this week about the 205 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: idea of one Odell Beckham Junior possibly joining this football team. 206 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: We've heard reports that the Cowboys maybe having flirtations with 207 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior, obviously the top free agents in the NFL. 208 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: Nate does this wide receiver room need the likes of 209 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior to help them get better in that 210 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: wide receiver room? Oh you just opened the candle. Oh no, oh, no, 211 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: I have no comment. You ain't got nothing for me. 212 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: You know to me, you have to you have to 213 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: ramp him up. It's gonna be a ten. It's gonna 214 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: be a two game period. Well, he don't. He have 215 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: to practice, So we're gonna missed two games. When do 216 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: we bring him in? When do we start the two 217 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: game process? When do we really know? Can he come 218 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: in and out of routes because he's a route running 219 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: along with all that talent? When dude, when does he 220 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: really help us? And if and then you're telling me 221 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna help us in the playoffs? Is that is that? 222 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: When you is that when you want him, though, is 223 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: that when you want him to be at its most 224 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: effective by the time you get the playoffs? Second acl 225 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: on the same knee, y'all can have it. Oh yeah, 226 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: I don't. Don't not from the streets. I mean, I 227 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: mean the Cowboys haven't. But it's gil grow your receivers. 228 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: I feel better with Washington, who knows our system a 229 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: little bit. Better grow your receivers as they are. You know, 230 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: we had a chance before the deadline to do something 231 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: we didn't. Let's ribe on how we're gonna do it. 232 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: That's right, how we're gonna do it. That's you know, 233 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: there's there's too many questions that have to be answered 234 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: before everybody gets excited about signing Odell Beckham junior number one. 235 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: Just what Nate said, winds he ready to play? The 236 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: health is how long? You know, can he pass a physical? 237 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: We don't know that now, you know. And all this 238 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: source stuff, I'll tell you who the source is, his agent, 239 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: his agents putting that stuff out there. Interested in this guy? Right? Uh? 240 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: And you know they're supposed to be several teams. Okay, 241 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: the Cowboys aren't the only team that want them. So 242 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: the next question is how much they don't have an 243 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: endless amount of salary cap even right, And and does 244 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: he want to deal like the Rams? Because the Rams 245 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: signed him last year for one point two five millions, 246 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: all right, one point two five million, so it was 247 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: kind of a proven thing. And I heard he said 248 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: that he wants a long term deal. He's tired of 249 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: living out of a suitcase, and he wants a play 250 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: somewhere where we can buy a house and live for 251 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: four years. So that factors in, right, There's just so 252 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: many other things that are involved with this. Just then 253 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: saying okay, we want to sign him because how much 254 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: to me really dictates because what did Nate say, two 255 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: acls on the same knee in two year years old? 256 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: That's right? And he's thirty. So are you getting Odell 257 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: Beckham junior? That will you remember? Or Odell Beckham junior 258 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: that he is right now? And I think that's got 259 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: to be decided upon, Timmy before we go to break 260 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the possibility of Odell Beckham Junia. The 261 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: last time he saw him on a football field, he 262 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: looked like he was on his way to Seeer Bowl 263 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: MVP for the Los Angeles Rams. Well, you know, at 264 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: this late in the year. You get guys because someone 265 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: else got hurt and your receiving core is pretty healthy. 266 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: There's some guys that are little nicked up, but you 267 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: don't want to bring someone is just because you think 268 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: he's going to play at a level that he played 269 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: at the last time we played. And so that's a 270 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: very delicate balancing act when you do that. At SWBC, 271 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: customer solution for individuals and businesses are just a clickaway. 272 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: Visit SWBC dot com to learn more and start your 273 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: next adventure. We are live at the Cowboys Club at 274 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: the Start in Frisco to this Cowboys Cross Talk on 275 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. Kevin Gray, Nate Newton, and 276 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, Timmy Newsom our Cowboys legend joining us on 277 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: this Wednesday night. When we come back, gentlemen, let's get 278 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: into this Packers Cowboys game and let's start on the 279 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: offensive side. How does Dak Prescott in this wide receiver 280 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: corps get after this Packers secretary? We do that next 281 00:15:36,080 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: on the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. Oh Cowboys was Talk 282 00:17:03,720 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: Bars cow Cowboys Cowboys Cross Talk broadcasting live from the 283 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco live at the 284 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. It is number 285 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: ten of the National Football He gainst Cowboys Cross Talk 286 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: Kevi McGray with the six time Pro Bowl at three 287 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: times Super Bowl champion, member of the Black College Football 288 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, Nate Newton Jesse joins me every single 289 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: week Mickey Spagnola of Dallas Cowboys dot Com, longtime columnists 290 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: for Dallas Cowboys dot Com and our Cowboys Legend. This week, 291 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: Timmy Newsom joining us right here on the Dallas Cowboys 292 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: Radio netwhere he appreciate him stopping down with this on 293 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: this Wednesday night as we get you ready for Packers Cowboys. 294 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys coming off there by week at six and two 295 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: visit the three and six Green Bay Packers, losers of 296 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: five straight. Gentlemen, let's talk about this offense for the 297 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, an offense that last time we saw them 298 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: on the football field drop forty two points, got to 299 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: help from a Micah Parson's defensive touchdown forty nine points 300 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: in total. But Nate, looking at Dak Prescott and what 301 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: he was able to do along with that terrific running 302 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: game led by Tony Pollard, can we see more of 303 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: the same. Is that formula that you saw against Chicago, 304 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: the formula that you want to tinue to see when 305 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: they take on Green yesterday. Yes, it is the formal 306 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: I mean, and Dak is gonna and it's time gone. 307 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: Dak is going to throw a little bit more. They 308 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: got Clark, they got Preston Smith, they got uh Jared Reid, 309 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: they got some good dudes. Their defense there, the Green 310 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: Bay Packers defense is way better. And if they had 311 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: a team that could help them a littit, the Packers 312 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: will turn back into a blitzing, snunting getting out to 313 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: your team. But now they played more safe football because 314 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 1: the offense isn't it's dynamic as it's normally is. Sunday 315 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: will mark Prescott's first road game of the season. In 316 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: his career, Dak Prescott twenty four and eighteen on the 317 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: road and has twelve game when he drives away from 318 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: home and the second most and that's the second most 319 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: among quarterbacks since twenty sixteen. Mickey, what does this offense 320 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: have to look like from a wide receiver perspective to 321 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: get after this secondary that just added Jonathan Abram, the 322 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: former first round pick with the las Vega Gus Raiders. 323 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: Now he's a member of the Green Bay Packers going 324 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: into this and they've got some injuries in the in 325 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 1: their secondary too. Russol Douglas by the way, ended up 326 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: on the injury list with a calf. He's limited. And 327 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: Eric Stokes ankle knee and it sounds like it's a 328 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: high ankle, so he's probably out. That's probably why they 329 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: brought that guy in. Uh. They just have to be efficient. 330 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: They don't have to be you know, dramatic or anything 331 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: like that. Just be efficient, run your routes, get open, 332 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: throw the ball, and basically adjust to probably a kickoff. 333 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: The temperature is going to be in the high thirties, 334 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: so it's a little bit different. Uh, the grass is 335 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: a little bit different there than other places they might 336 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: have played on grass. But just got to be efficient. 337 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: And I think you know, you guys can tell me 338 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: offensive guys. Uh, Timmy, you know about running the football, 339 00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 1: and you run the football, well, you lessen the distance 340 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: on third down and it's easier to have a passing game. Right, Oh, 341 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: no question. If they can just get positive yards, get 342 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: into that situation where it's second and five, second and four, 343 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: then now that puts pressure on the defense, and so 344 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: that's really what it's all about when you look at 345 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 1: these running backs. Timmy obviously Zeka Elli is still dealing 346 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: with a little bit of a knee injury, was limited 347 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: in practice today, said he wants to be able to 348 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: do more tomorrow as they get ready to take on 349 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: the Packers. If you're a Tony Pollard and you're talking 350 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: to him about what he needs to do going into Lambeau, 351 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: what are you advice are you giving him about the 352 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: mentality of making sure that you're running with power and 353 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: being able to have that kind of football game that 354 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: he had against Chicago the last time he saw him 355 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: on the field. Well, I would say to him, just 356 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: keep doing what you're doing. I mean, he's running hard, 357 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: he's doing the kinds of things that you need to 358 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: do to be positive in his thinking, and so just 359 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: keep doing what he's doing, and they think he would 360 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: be pretty successful at it. Nate, that offensive line against 361 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: Chicago was very very good, helping to Cowboys running tandem 362 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: to run for over two hundred yards in that football game. 363 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: What are you seeing in terms of the growth of 364 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: the Tyler Smiths of the world and this overall offensive line. 365 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: That gives you confidence that they can continue to build 366 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: on a performance like that. You know they've they've just 367 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: they're starting to play together. You seeing them start to jail, 368 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: they still want it every nine and then stick another 369 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: offensive lineman in there, you know, and I hope package, 370 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 1: I hate that. You know. McGovern is finding his way, 371 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: be honest, is finding his way. These are guys that 372 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: are average players that are playing above their self. You know, 373 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: don't don't don't stop that rhythm, don't stop that confidence. 374 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: And you see the left tackle is starting to grow 375 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: and be better. He's his pass sets is getting better 376 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 1: and better. And the run helps our write tackle like 377 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: you wouldn't believe if you know, our quarterback is the 378 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: play action pass quarterback, and I write tackle is definitely 379 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: a pay action pass tackle, you know, because if you 380 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: let him run, run, run, then let him block a 381 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: little bit on the pass, that's where he's at his best. 382 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: But if you ask him to do this six, seven, 383 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: eight times in a row, you can have some problem. 384 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: You know. That might be the most improved segment of 385 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: this team. Yes, the way the offensive line has come along, 386 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: just thinking where they were the start of the season, 387 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 1: having to move Tyler Smith out to left tackle when 388 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: he was at left guard the entire training camp, the 389 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: fact that McGovern's kind of growing into that left guard spot. Yes, 390 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: you see. And what people don't remember about Beadish is 391 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: last year was basically his first year starting in the league. 392 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: And you can correct me if I'm wrong, but Mark 393 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: Stepnowsky wasn't Mark Stepnowski his rookie year or a second 394 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: year that third year in ninety one. He really came 395 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: on as a center. Remember he had played guard in college. Yeah, yeah, 396 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: but you know, I don't don't do that. I'm not saying. 397 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: I'm not saying. I'm just saying it took a step 398 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: a while to become a step Yeah. Yeah, he before 399 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,719 Speaker 1: he was at all pro guy. Yeah, I understand, before 400 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: he was Stepnosky. Yeah, he was just that little step 401 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: when he first got in exactly. So this this offensive 402 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: line is starting to gel and they're playing better. And 403 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: you know you mentioned Terrence Steele the right town. Yes, 404 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: you know, this is his really first year. He earned 405 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: the starting job. You know, he had to start last 406 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: year because of injury suspensions, right with Layl Collins, And 407 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: you're seeing what Cincinnati's getting with him. So this kid 408 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: played better than him last year, and you know the 409 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: President's still the president. Yes, yes, Nate. I want to 410 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: ask you because for every player, it's different when that 411 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: thing clicks for them, when they start to understand in 412 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: the game starts to slow down for them. When you 413 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: look at Tyler Smith at what he's doing, thinking about 414 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: your experience, when did it click for you when the 415 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: game started to slow down and you understood what was 416 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: asked of you in terms of assignment, football and all 417 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: the things. When did that click for you? How could 418 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: that help a guy like Tyler Smith his growth and learner. 419 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: Let me tell yall something. The game slowed. And I 420 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: hate to say this because I love Coach Landry. I 421 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: grew up a Cowboy fan. But when they simplified the offense, 422 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm being honest. When they Timmy would tell you you 423 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: get moved two or three inches one way or another 424 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: and the whole play almost changed. Yeah, you had to 425 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: be one intelligent brother to play this game for Coach Landry. 426 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: They brought in Jim Murkin back and they say, coach Coach, 427 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: that's just simplify this. That's how five or six good 428 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 1: running players and Mike, and it took off of me 429 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: right then, Yeah, because I knew if that dude just 430 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: moved from over my head to right here, he was 431 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: still my guy. It took off of me, you know. 432 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: And I'm saying I'm being honest. That's when it took 433 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: off of me when jim kinback came in my second 434 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: year and gave me that opportunity to simplified the offense. Timmy, 435 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: the same question to you for a player, when does 436 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: that click for him about what he is understands what 437 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: he needs to do on the field week to week 438 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: and how that can help him. Well, it's game preparation, Yes, 439 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's really about game preparation. You've got to 440 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: know what plays you feel comfortable running and be honest 441 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: with the coach that say, coach, I like running these 442 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: plays in that situation because you're gonna get stunts, You're 443 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: gonna get guys that are going to play games and 444 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: that you know in the trenches, and so you've got 445 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: to feel comfortable to overcome those deficiencies and the things 446 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: that they are trying to do to counteract what you 447 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: want to do. Yes, this is a team switching to 448 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: the defensive side. Of the football that's say, top five 449 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: scoring defense in this league, leads the NFL in sacks. Mickey, 450 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: I want to start with you. When you're Micah Parsons 451 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: and Dan quinning this entire defense looking to get after 452 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. What's the one thing that you want to 453 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: see on Sunday that will give you confidence that this 454 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: defense is having success against Aaron Rodgers and this football team. Well, 455 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to what I where I started. 456 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: They got to be able to stop the run. The Packers, 457 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: beknownst to I think a lot of people have run 458 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: the ball awfully well, and I think it six of 459 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: nine games they've been over one hundred yards rushing the 460 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 1: ball point eight yards carry, and so they've done a 461 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: heck of a job. Now with Aaron Rodgers and the 462 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: Cowboys have found that out the last couple of times 463 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: they've played them, that you better keep him in the pocket. 464 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: You better not let him get out and start rolling 465 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: around and throwing up Hill Mary's and things like that. 466 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: You've got to get to him. And the thing I know, 467 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,719 Speaker 1: and you guys can correct me. With veteran quarterbacks, they 468 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: don't like defensive guys nipping at their feet right and 469 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: they want to stay clean right and you can hear it. 470 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: You may not sack them, but you'll irritate them if 471 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: you put pressure on them. And I think that's one 472 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: of the things that this defense has to do. You 473 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: better stop the run, get him in third and long, 474 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: and no one wants to be in third and long 475 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: against this defense because they know what's coming. Mike McCarthy 476 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: made mention of it a couple of times the last 477 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. He said, if I was an opposing 478 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, I don't want to throw against those guys 479 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: with that pass rush. So making sure you're not in 480 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: a lot of third and threes, third and fours, and 481 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: get him in third and long. But to do that, 482 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: you better stop the run. It's funny that you said it, 483 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: because as you were talking about that, the idea of 484 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: wanting to put Aaron Rodgers in knowing passive situations really 485 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: kind of boggles my mind, giving all the success he's 486 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: had in his career. But when you look at this 487 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: team now really being able to run the football, don't 488 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: have a lot of great pass catchers, it's amazing to 489 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: think that you want to get Aaron Rodgers in the 490 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: predictable third and long situation where he's got to be 491 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: forced to throw the football. Timmy, I'm interested to hear 492 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: this from you, because obviously Aaron Rodgers had a lot 493 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: of success against his capitalisty throughout his career. Who was 494 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback obviously being on the offensive side, but who 495 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: was a quarterback that you knew week over week. It's like, man, 496 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: when we face him, all of us got to be 497 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: ready because we know that he's going to have a 498 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: chance anytime he's in the game to make things happened Well, 499 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: during my time in the league, it was Joe Theisman. 500 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: He was really a very good tactician in terms of 501 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: how he orchestrated his offense, and so we tried to 502 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: counteract the things he did by putting a lot of 503 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: pressure on him up the middle, and we had some success, 504 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: but overall, they got two Super Bowl wins in the 505 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: right So it wasn't Burt Star Well that was before 506 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: my time, That's right, Nay, Who was that quarterback for 507 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: you that the regardless of who the opponent was, you 508 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: knew that when you played that quarterback that he was 509 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: going to have his team ready to play. And it 510 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: was two of them. Man I caught him sailing of 511 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: Joe Montana and and and then Steve Young. It wasn't 512 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: gonna be nothing nice. It was because not only were 513 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: they smart, they coaches changed from from from series the series. 514 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: And that's what Tony, that's what y'all faced a lot 515 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: in the NFC East when I first got with them, guys, 516 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: the Giants, the Eagles, they were the Eagles are dumb. 517 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: Don't even worry about them. But they ain't dumb. Not 518 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: the ain't du not. I'm sorry, they ain't dumb, not 519 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: back there. But the Giants and the Red them coaches 520 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: was smart and they was changing for series series giving you. 521 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: And that's what coach Manager had smart players because they 522 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: were able to aggest. Ye. Yeah. This Cowboys team has 523 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: been fun to watch on the defensive side of the 524 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: football this year. Dan Quinn now having a chance to 525 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: scheme things up against Aaron Rodgers and Matt Lafour and 526 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: his offense. Give me a player, Mickey on the defense 527 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: that you're looking for on Sunday to have a good game. 528 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: That's gonna help this team gonna win on Sunday? Is 529 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: that too easy for me to say, right? You can't 530 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: say Michael, Um, you know what Um, I'm gonna say, 531 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs. I think he's been playing at an awfully 532 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: high level. Uh. And you can play at a high 533 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: level at cornerback without getting interceptions. You can knock the 534 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: ball down, you can cover guys and then they can't 535 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: throw to that guy. And I think he's a much 536 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: better job of that, and he's done a much better 537 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: job when they've decided, well, we're gonna run at him. Well, 538 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: he didn't get to where he is today because he 539 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: was stopping the run, right, But at some point you 540 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: got to do that. Uh. And I just think he's 541 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: playing at a high level and if he can do 542 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: that again in this game, that's gonna make things tough 543 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers, who him, and what makes him so 544 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: special is that when netball gets in the air, he 545 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: is a receiver in his heart. Yeah, And that's what 546 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: makes him so tough. He's got he's got those skills 547 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: like Everson Walls. When the ball was in the air, 548 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: Everson thought it was his and he had the ability 549 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: number one track it at number two catch it's right. 550 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: And usually guys are cornerbacks because they can't catch. They 551 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: would have been a wide receiver right of course, right 552 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: around day a former wide receiver turn cornerback and was 553 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: doing his thing at Alabama and Nate Before we go 554 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: to break, who's a player that's jumping out on film 555 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: that you've been watching on because I know you've been 556 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: deep in your film study this week, that's jumped out 557 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: to you that says, hey, dude on Sunday could have 558 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: a chance to really get after Aaron Rodgers. I don't 559 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: know if if Sam would Sam be back Sam Williams, yes, 560 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: he will. Everybody should be back, except for maybe Anthony Bark. 561 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: My My thing is, I want to I want to 562 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: see us sustain sustained play from him. I want to. 563 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: I want to The coaches got to trust him soon 564 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: or later because he takes pressure now off of Parsons 565 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: when he's out there. He's that good and that much 566 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: potential and talent, So he takes pressure off of that. 567 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: So now you can't just turn to Parsons and beat 568 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: him up. So I want't see the same thing with 569 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: the Marcus Laws, right, I want to see somebody else 570 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: to worry. 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Gentleman, 597 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: as you will have the number one team of Kevin 598 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: Burkhardt and Greg Olsen on the call, along with Aaron 599 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 1: Andrews on the Fox broadcast. Mike McCarthy though a homecoming 600 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: from Mike McCarthy, a man who spent fourteen seasons, thirteen 601 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: of which as head coach Super Bowl Champion with Aaron Rodgers, 602 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 1: of course, winning that Super Bowl championship right here at 603 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 1: at and T Stadium when him and his Packers defeated 604 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. Mike McCarthy talking on Monday about the 605 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 1: emotions of returning to Green Bay and what that will 606 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: mean for him. Nate, start with you here, what do 607 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: you think is going through gonna be going through Mike's 608 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: mind as he steps onto lambeau Field as an opponent 609 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers for the first time in his career, 610 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: and how he's going to approach helping this football team 611 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: get a win against You know, Kevin, I wish I 612 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 1: wish I knew table was in my mind. I'm going 613 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: back to crush you. Yeah, when I when I leave 614 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 1: about it that when I when I wave at all, y'all, 615 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: I want you to be throwing stuff at me because 616 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna beat the brakes off you. That's how That's 617 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: how I would be looking at it now. I don't 618 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: know how coach with Carthon. I've never been on that 619 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: that would be my mindset. I ain't never been on 620 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: that level. You may have asked Timmy, but it's logic 621 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: here for that. You know, what do you think, Timmy? 622 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: I think his thing is coming in is trying to 623 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: defy history. I mean, the Cowboys have not historically done 624 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: well up in Green Bay. And he's a professional and 625 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: he's going to try to do everything in his power 626 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: to put his team in the best position to be 627 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: successful in a hostile environment. Mickey, what was the tone 628 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,399 Speaker 1: in the tenor obviously listening to Mike Reminiscent talk about 629 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: his time in Green Bay taking on Aaron Rodgers as 630 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: an opponent and how that will influence him this week, 631 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: especially knowing that these players, I'm sure want you to 632 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: get this win for him on Sunday afternoon, after all 633 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 1: the history he's had with green I thought. Michael Parsons 634 00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: answered it the best. I want to get the win 635 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: for myself, you know, and if that helps him out. 636 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: You know, they were asking Anthony Brown the same thing, 637 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: and he was saying, well, yeah, I'm sure you know 638 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,919 Speaker 1: it might mean something. But he goes, I'm not gonna 639 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: be on the field thinking, oh, I'm gonna try harder 640 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: because I gotta get Mike to win. He just wants 641 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 1: to win the game. They want to win if that 642 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: helps him feel better. And I don't think Mike's going 643 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 1: into this as this some sort of revenge, right you know, 644 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 1: you know, how does that affect guys? That doesn't affect 645 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 1: him in the game. You know, Anthony Brown was great. 646 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,359 Speaker 1: He goes, Yeah, if I'm out on the field and 647 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: I'm I'm playing, I'm not gonna sit there and go 648 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try harder now because I want Mike to win. 649 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: You do that by preparing during the week for the game. Yes, 650 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: I just don't. I think we make a bigger deal 651 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: out of that than you know. The only mention he 652 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: did on Monday was yeah, when I left, there was 653 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of a debt, right. That hurts to 654 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 1: get fired, right, and especially in that town when you 655 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: lived there for another year, because people know who you are. 656 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: He did take that year off, right, and I took 657 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: that year off. And so now that he's back, I mean, yeah, 658 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: I mean winning is always important, and I don't think 659 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 1: you put more importance on a game because if you did, 660 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: then what did you do the week before? You didn't 661 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: try as hard. So I thought he handled it awfully well. 662 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: Somebody asked him about will you take a stroll down 663 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 1: McCarthy Way, and he goes, yeah, I'm gonna go over 664 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: there and still if it's see, if it's still there, 665 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: they might have taken a sign down, right. So the 666 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: only time he got emotional is when he pointed out 667 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: that his wife grew up there, they met there, his 668 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,399 Speaker 1: kids grew up there. And then he had to kind 669 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: of catch himself because he was talking about family. But 670 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: he said, the thing that I'll think about is the 671 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: people that I met there, the people not just players 672 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: or coaches, but people in the community that he you know, 673 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: those were his friends. And he goes, that's what you know, 674 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: you would look for, But when you go play the game, 675 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,359 Speaker 1: it's the game. Uh. And you know, he said he's 676 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 1: got family and things that they grow and you know, 677 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do when you come here? And 678 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: it's like, well, I'm not coming in on Wednesday, right, 679 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, I'll get five o'clock on Saturday and I'm 680 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: leaving right after the game. This is business. So um, 681 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,839 Speaker 1: I thought he handled that part of it really well. 682 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 1: And you guys, I mean you never had to come 683 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: back and play against the Cowboys, right, No, did you 684 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: when you went to Carolina the year? No? No, man, 685 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 1: you know you know Mick I yea man who cares. 686 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 1: You know, Like I tell people, it is mostly for 687 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: talk radio, entertainment TV, these these stories. Yeah, so that 688 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: gives people an another story. Me, it's beat the breaks 689 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: off up. That's all I can think of. If coach 690 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: McCarthy want to feel good, beat them, because that's the 691 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: only way you're gonna feel good. That's the best way 692 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: I feel coming out of a Green Bay Timmy, this 693 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,399 Speaker 1: is a lot a lot of cowboy staff members. Joe 694 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 1: Witt Junior, Al Harris, Scott Tolzen. There's a lot of 695 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: staff members who were with Mike McCarthy in Green Bay. 696 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: From an overall team perspective, Nate speaking to obviously just 697 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,879 Speaker 1: going in and wanting to win the football game. How 698 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 1: do you guard against not trying to do too much 699 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,799 Speaker 1: when you're trying to play maybe for a little bit 700 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 1: of extra because you know you want to help your 701 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 1: coach get a win in that particular game. Just have 702 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 1: a certain element of professionalism. Yes, that's all it is, 703 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, you just look at it as another game. 704 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: Try not to have all the distractions that comes with 705 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 1: playing in a place that you're so familiar to you. 706 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: He even joked about having all the tickets that he 707 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: needed to purchase and hoping someone would help him pay 708 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, but that's the basic thing. And just 709 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,320 Speaker 1: try to stay professional through it all and didn't go 710 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 1: about your business and play football. See, all the tickets 711 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: should be gone to know later than tomorrow, all his 712 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 1: tickets should be going to tell his wife, Hey, you 713 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 1: handle that all the tickets should be gone. Yep, and 714 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: uh saying with Al, saying with Joe Wi all of them, 715 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: all the tickets should be gone. Yeah, I think. I 716 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: think Mike mentioned this week that there's ten people on 717 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 1: the staff that had had a connection with the Packers, 718 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 1: had either played forum coach there. Uh, that's a lot 719 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 1: of guys. It is m And you know, like I said, 720 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: if that makes them prepare you know, even harder this 721 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 1: week than so be it. But um again, once you 722 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 1: start playing that that stuff goes away. You just it 723 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,399 Speaker 1: doesn't enter your mind whatsoever. I mean, you went back 724 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,360 Speaker 1: to Florida to play games with the Cowboys right in 725 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: the Tampa. I don't know if it was Jacksonville or you. 726 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: Like Timmy said, you're just a professional. Yeah, you're a 727 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: professional and you prepare. And like I said, you know, 728 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 1: that's one thing I like about coach Johnson. It's right 729 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: you know you're going back home. He knew who was 730 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: going back home, and he would let her. Hey, man, 731 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: get your wife or whoever your ticket person you're handling, 732 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,839 Speaker 1: get these tickets need to be gone. About about when 733 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,359 Speaker 1: Thursday morning come, All tickets need to be gone, All 734 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: contact need to be gone because we're going we gotta 735 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: go do our jasiness trip. Yeah, let's take our last 736 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 1: break here on Cowboys Cross Talk. We are live at 737 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,720 Speaker 1: the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. Kevin Gray, Nayton, 738 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,839 Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, Timmy knew Something joining us this week right 739 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: here on the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. Coming up next, 740 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 1: let's catch up with Timmy News. Let's hear what he's 741 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: got going on these days and answer this question as well. 742 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 1: Is this the most important stretch for the Cowboys with 743 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 1: three games in twelve days. We'll talk about all that 744 00:45:38,880 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: next on the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. No Cowboys was 745 00:47:06,960 --> 00:48:46,439 Speaker 1: Boss cow Cowboys WBC mortgagees Cowboys Cross Talk broadcasting live 746 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 1: from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. 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Kevin Gray of one 751 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 1: oh five three, the fan, our six time Pro Bowl 752 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 1: the three time Super Bowl Champion, member of the Black 753 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 1: College Football Hall of Fame, my co host every single week, 754 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: Nate Newton joining us as always, Mickey Spagnola of Dallas 755 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com and our Cowboys legend as week, Timmy 756 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 1: Knew some nine year NFL vetch also member of the 757 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 1: Black College Football Hall of Fame. Proud Winston Salem States 758 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:28,240 Speaker 1: graduate is Timmy? Timmy, appreciate you joining us on this evening. 759 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 1: What have you been doing lately? It sounds like obviously 760 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,439 Speaker 1: you're keeping up with the game quite a bit as well. 761 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,399 Speaker 1: What's going on in mister Newsom's life these days. Well, 762 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,280 Speaker 1: I've had a technology company for the past thirty years, 763 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: so I celebrated that last year and I'm graduated my 764 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: thirty first year and having funds. That's amazing. Years. Got 765 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 1: the HBCU here representative. That's right, two proud HBCU members, 766 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,479 Speaker 1: members of the Black College Football You should have brought 767 00:49:54,480 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 1: your rings, you know, I'm not a ring guy, though, Man, 768 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do with yours? They at home? 769 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,319 Speaker 1: He said, It's interesting and I wanted to ask you 770 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 1: to me because we've seen, especially with the fanfare that 771 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: Dion Sanders is having with Jackson State and the emergence 772 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,919 Speaker 1: of that program there for you, what do you want 773 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 1: to continue to see him not just do specifically there, 774 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 1: but also lifting up the entire HBCU community when it 775 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 1: comes to how this program has been put in a 776 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,879 Speaker 1: national spotlight these days. Well, first of all, I think 777 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 1: he's a trend setter. Uh, he's a transformative figure within 778 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,400 Speaker 1: the black college community. And the thing that I admire 779 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 1: most about him is that he has the mental toughness 780 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 1: to overcome some of the past things that have been 781 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:50,280 Speaker 1: happening in black college sports. And so give you an example. Uh, 782 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 1: if they go on the road and play a Power 783 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 1: of five school, the disparity in terms of what they 784 00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:00,160 Speaker 1: get in terms of money is different. And he's trying 785 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 1: to bring that up to a level that is consistent 786 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: with what other schools are getting. And he's exactly right. 787 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,399 Speaker 1: He says we need to come together be able to 788 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 1: go out and say we need to get one point 789 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 1: five million, just like another university has. And that's the 790 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 1: thing that I think he's going to make a change 791 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 1: on it. Yeah, because there's other apple I call him 792 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 1: ankle biters that get paid much more than that to 793 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 1: go get sacrificed on a road game. That's exactly right. 794 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:34,279 Speaker 1: Those schools should deserve that and that would increase their facilities, right, 795 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,279 Speaker 1: which is always a big part of it. I don't 796 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,840 Speaker 1: know how the guy has had when you were in school. Uh, 797 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,839 Speaker 1: And if I remember right, you started off it was 798 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 1: was it division two? Division two? And then did it 799 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 1: move up to one double edged state Division two? Yes? 800 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 1: And you were and you were you were kicking butt 801 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 1: as a running back, right yes. Um, you know, uh, 802 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 1: we had a really good coach and coach Bill Hayes, 803 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,040 Speaker 1: and so we lack the basic necessities. Didn't have a 804 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 1: locker room, didn't have a weight room, and all of 805 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,359 Speaker 1: these things, and so we had to win to get it. 806 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 1: But you know, Dion recognized when he got there he 807 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 1: in solicit Corporate America to build a facility that was 808 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:21,240 Speaker 1: consistent with excellence. If you play good, you feel good, 809 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,400 Speaker 1: and you win. And he understands that and that's the 810 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 1: thing that he's bringing to the table that is so unique. 811 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,800 Speaker 1: I just hope he doesn't go anywhere else and stay 812 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,920 Speaker 1: and make sure he sees this through fruition and make 813 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:39,080 Speaker 1: sure that he elevates that conference in a way that 814 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,319 Speaker 1: has never been done before. And Kevin, I don't know, 815 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 1: you may know this better than me. But the last 816 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 1: time ESPN Game Day would have been at an HBCU school. Yeah, 817 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 1: I mean they go to Jackson State. I mean that 818 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 1: was big time jack State. Yeah, southern than Jackson State 819 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 1: for Deon taking on the Southern Jaguars, Nate real quick. 820 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 1: How proud of you Dean and what he's doing down there. 821 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 1: I just left this past week hanging out with him 822 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 1: and watching the new that they built, you know, and uh, 823 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just proud of him, and uh, I 824 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,200 Speaker 1: don't you know, I don't you know, I just go 825 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 1: and enjoy, you know. Uh. I went out to practice 826 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 1: and watching them practice, and then I left him and 827 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 1: went on down to family and got that ring and stuff. 828 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 1: So I'm excited. I'm excited for Dion and uh, me 829 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:32,399 Speaker 1: and Timmy talked doing the Canton Hall of Fame deal 830 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,920 Speaker 1: with the ad for the Black colleges and uh and 831 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 1: just trying to share with him some of the things 832 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 1: that he's conquered, you know, and you know it's not fair, 833 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,240 Speaker 1: but it's it's great. It's magnificent. You know. I worked 834 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 1: in Jackson, so I was pretty close to uh some 835 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 1: of those schools Sack and UH, you know the facility. 836 00:53:49,600 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 1: You ain't swacked me. I was a bit out of place, yeah, 837 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 1: you know. And this was when Jerry Rice was you know, 838 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 1: the man is there, Donald Driver? Yeah, the man. And 839 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,120 Speaker 1: you know one of the reasons Jerry Rice kind of 840 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 1: fell in the draft. They didn't like his forty time. Well, 841 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 1: he didn't have a track to run forty on. They 842 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 1: said he had to run it on a field. No, 843 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 1: it was a dirty right, And so the facilities back 844 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 1: then were, you know, just the trocus. Hopefully they've gotten better. 845 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 1: But I had a question for him when I was 846 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: looking up his years. One thing, you tell me if 847 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 1: it was true. So you know, this guy's got a 848 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 1: run behind Tony Dorset. When he gets there, he's either 849 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 1: the fullback running in front of him, or if Tony 850 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,120 Speaker 1: got hurt, he's the running back. And then Tony starts 851 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 1: to fade and they bring in herschel walker right, and 852 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,839 Speaker 1: then he had to deal with him. But one thing 853 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 1: said that at one point all three you were on 854 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,200 Speaker 1: the field at the same time. Was that true? Like 855 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 1: full house backfield. In fact, when we started opening day 856 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty six against the Giants, we started with 857 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 1: the full house backfield. No way, I don't remember that. Yes, 858 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,959 Speaker 1: Herschel played the wing and I was a fullback in Tona. 859 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,719 Speaker 1: Doorset was a tailback, so it was like going back 860 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 1: to Oklahoma, yet as a star, steted backfield before we go. 861 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 1: Got about a minute left here, Cowboys Packers. The Cowboys 862 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 1: start a stretch of three games in twelve days. I 863 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,799 Speaker 1: know Nate not gonna give me a prediction because he 864 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 1: always believes that the Cowboys gonna win, so I'm not 865 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,160 Speaker 1: gonna ask him. Give me a quick pick. In about 866 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 1: fifteen seconds, how did the Cowboys? And what's the score 867 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,919 Speaker 1: gonna be? Cowboys Packers on side. I think they got 868 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 1: this offense ready to go. Everybody keeps worrying about the 869 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,680 Speaker 1: passing game. What we forget as Dak has only played 870 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 1: basically two games right the opener. Okay, we get rid 871 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 1: of that. He's played a game and a half since 872 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 1: he got his feet underground. I think this offense will 873 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,839 Speaker 1: be too much for the Packers defense. Well, it's all 874 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,719 Speaker 1: about defense for the cow Boys. They are going to 875 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,120 Speaker 1: lock down the pack of offense, and I think they're 876 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,719 Speaker 1: gonna play very well even in Green Bay. And so 877 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna come out with the wind. Okay Cowboys looking 878 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:15,279 Speaker 1: to move. What do you got. I'm gonna take the 879 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 1: cowb roll with Nate. I'm gonna roll with name, take 880 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,399 Speaker 1: the Cowboy. I'm a little scared Rod, but I'm gonna 881 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 1: take the Cowboys. On Sunday, Cowboys looking to move the 882 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,720 Speaker 1: seven and two as they visit the Green Bay Packers 883 00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,800 Speaker 1: on the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. We appreciate our Cowboys 884 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,719 Speaker 1: legend Timmy Knews I'm joining us this week. Thank you 885 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 1: so much, sir. I really appreciate it. Here at the 886 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys Club Club at the Star in Frisco. Mickey Spacknol 887 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 1: Das Cowboys dot Com. Thank you so much, sir for 888 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,560 Speaker 1: your time this week. Nate always good to see you man. 889 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 1: I'll see you next week. This has been a production 890 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.