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Speaker 2: Welcome to. I said, no gifts.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. Real, How are you? I'm doing good,

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Speaker 3: This is our closet that my girlfriend converted into an office.

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Speaker 3: My girlfriend she works for a branding and marketing company.

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Speaker 2: Not you're kidding. Was she ashamed?

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Speaker 3: No, That's what's so funny about my mom is that

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Speaker 3: Not much. I mean, I feel like I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and she ran away, and I felt, oh my god, dude,

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Speaker 2: What a beautiful place to have this happen, though, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I truly did betray you. You're supposed to be able

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Speaker 3: And I to I said, I don't want to talk

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Speaker 3: And then I went. I showered, and then I went

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Speaker 2: It is so traumatic.

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Speaker 3: Oh and it's also because I I have I'm very

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Speaker 2: You know, everybody is well.

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Speaker 3: You know, when I go to the restroom, I play music.

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Speaker 3: I don't think farting around my girlfriend or around my

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Speaker 2: You're a polite person, Yeah, you need one of I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I am take a cue from well mannered People's

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Speaker 2: Yes, they're the most polite people on the planet, and

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean it was just it's it was bad.

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Speaker 3: It's just one of those things where like now when

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Speaker 3: hours before you go. You know, Oh it was was awful.

439
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just need to fast for a solid week

440
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 2: and then die of starvation on the trail.

441
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's a more honorable death.

442
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 2: Truly, hike up, see the Pacific and then just collapse,

443
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 2: just go and buries you. You're good to go.

444
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I told her, I said, you did the worst

445
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 3: thing than break up with me is that you were supportive.

446
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 3: I go. It would have been easier on me if

447
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 3: you had broken up with me and said you're disgusting,

448
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 3: I never want to see you again. But the fact

449
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 3: that you were so understanding is even worse.

450
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 2: Right. Also, she's got a nice clean exit there her

451
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 2: next boyfriend, the first stage she can She's like, I

452
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 2: can tell you exactly why I broke up with my

453
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 2: last boyfriend. It's such an easy clean exit for everybody,

454
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 2: rather than getting all of these emotional entanglements than years

455
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 2: of living together. No, she should have just gotten out.

456
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 2: But now you're stuck together with this horrifying secret.

457
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's awful. It's one of those things too, where

458
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 3: I think, for a long time, I've always thought, you know,

459
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 3: you want to be cool. You want to be the

460
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 3: cool guy for your girlfriend. You want to you want

461
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 3: to let her know that you're in control, that you're

462
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 3: always cool, that you know that the day that happened

463
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 3: is I said, drop this co cool bravado.

464
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 2: Right, there's no hiding it anymore. I mean you are

465
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 2: just now what you are to her. Yeah, yeah, a

466
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 2: sufferer of ibs. You will never be cool to your

467
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 2: girlfriend again.

468
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 3: Yes, that's exactly fine.

469
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 2: That's fine that. I feel like the sooner you drop

470
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 2: being cool to your partner, the better you can just

471
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: move on with your lives and both just live in shame.

472
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that's about right.

473
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 2: I mean, Chris, I don't want to, you know, get

474
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 2: off of this subject. But we were talking about politeness

475
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 2: and this sort of manners and this sort of thing,

476
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 2: and I mean, there's something I do want to talk

477
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 2: to you about. Out The podcast, of course, is called

478
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 2: I said no Gifts, and I host this show once

479
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 2: a week. It's you know, the title is right there.

480
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 2: It's essentially just a clear rule to my guests. And

481
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 2: last night I was sitting at home and I got

482
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 2: a text from you and it said I'm outside, and

483
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: I thought, what is Chris doing at my house? We're

484
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: in the middle of a pandemic. We didn't make these plans.

485
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I did know that we were having this

486
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: we would be recording today but I couldn't quite put

487
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: all these puzzle pieces together in my mind. Yet. I

488
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 2: come outside, put on a mask. I come out. You're

489
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 2: wearing a mask, and you hand me an envelope, correct,

490
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: which says to bridge your wineger from Chris Estrada, and

491
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: then in big letters it says the word gift. That

492
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: is true, and then you kind of just vanished into

493
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 2: the night, leaving me with this history. Chris, I have

494
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 2: to ask, I mean, I assume this is a gift

495
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 2: for me.

496
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 3: It is absolutely Okay, Okay.

497
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 2: Fine, whatever should I open the gift?

498
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 3: I would love for you to open the gift?

499
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to open this envelope and see what's

500
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 2: happening inside here. Okay, there's a piece of paper. I'm

501
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 2: going to open this, and now there's some Oh what's

502
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 2: going on here? Okay? So this is a very I mean,

503
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: it's a mysterious, very mysterious thing. There are two pieces

504
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: of paper that say quiet Mind, Mountain Retreat, and then

505
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 2: there's a twenty dollars bill. Chris, what's happening here?

506
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I wanted to give you the gift

507
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 3: of money. I wanted to give you the quiet Mind Retreat.

508
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 3: Is just a place that we me and my girlfriend

509
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: recently visited and I needed something to cover the money with.

510
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 3: It's not a list. Is not to go to Quiet

511
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 3: it's a lot more expensive than twenty dollars, but to

512
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 3: stay there.

513
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: But the worst retreat in the horse is okay. Well,

514
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 2: there are two two paths I want to go down here. First.

515
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: Let's first start with the Quiet Mind Mountain retreat, because

516
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: I am curious about this. What is that?

517
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 3: I did not mean to call attention to that. I

518
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 3: just needed something to hide the money.

519
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 2: Well I'm calling attention to it. We're putting the spotlight

520
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: on this retreat.

521
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. By all means. My girlfriend she wanted to get

522
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 3: away for the weekend, and she said, let's go to Julian,

523
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 3: which is a mountain town.

524
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 2: I've been to Julian.

525
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 3: You've been at Julian. It's very nice, it's very beautiful.

526
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 3: It's like two hours south of two and a half

527
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 3: hours south of Los Angeles.

528
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 2: Right a little bit north of San Diego.

529
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 3: Correct. And because she's really because she's better out a

530
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 3: lot of things than I am. She administers her money

531
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 3: really well. She racks up a lot of points through

532
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 3: her credit card and her points afforded her a three

533
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 3: nights stay at at this retreat in Julie.

534
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 2: God.

535
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 3: So it was really nice. I mean we went up there,

536
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 3: it was snowing, it was beautiful. It was a snowstorm.

537
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 3: It's quite it's sort of a kind of yoga you

538
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 3: have to kind of be quiet type of place. But

539
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 3: we were one of only two people that, like two

540
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 3: groups there, so it was great. Nobody was around, it

541
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: was beautiful.

542
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: Oh that sounds lovely. So everyone's just kind of meditating

543
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: and going about their business and.

544
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all it's meant to be there. It's like

545
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 3: a yoga studio where you can go do yoga. There's

546
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 3: like it's just funny that they find the need to

547
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 3: put peaceful imagery up like everywhere.

548
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: Like what is it like serene net like mountain scenes

549
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: and this kind of thing or.

550
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: That kind of stuff. Pictures of bamboo.

551
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: To me, bamboo is not that not that calming because

552
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: I know how quickly it grows. It kind of makes

553
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 2: me nervous because it's like the fastest growing plant and

554
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 2: that's all I can think about to bring me any

555
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 2: peace of mind. And then I think about pandas, which

556
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 2: are you know, an endangered species. It's just sending me

557
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: into all sorts of anxiety.

558
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 3: It's funny. I mean we had to end up fasting

559
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 3: because it was knowing so much that it was dangerous

560
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 3: to go pick up food. And no, they didn't have

561
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 3: any food. So are the retreat has no food on premises?

562
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 3: Just cereal? Okay, just cereal.

563
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 2: Cereal is a very loud food by the way.

564
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, just cereal. And then so we were just

565
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 3: stuck from like around I would say, three till the

566
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 3: next morning.

567
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: We had Oh no, just angry and hungry.

568
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 3: Nothing peaceful about this.

569
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 2: So what did you do for the three days you

570
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: were there? Just yoga?

571
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 3: No, they didn't offer any of those services because of COVID.

572
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 3: It was actually just a place to stay at. You

573
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 3: just went to an abandoned cabin. Yes, that's basically it.

574
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 3: There was no activities, the gym was closed, like the

575
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 3: only thing they let us use is they had an

576
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 3: infra red sauna.

577
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 2: Oh what is that? What does that mean? Now?

578
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 3: It's not a steam sauna. It's infra red light sauna

579
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 3: where it's it's basically dry heat in there instead.

580
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: Of the still right, it's like a like a fry heater, yes,

581
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: like at that restaurant. Yeah, is it is that relaxing?

582
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 3: It is? Yeah? I mean I do well with heat.

583
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 3: So like I was in there. It was about one

584
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty five degrees. I was in there for

585
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 3: ten minutes. I felt fine. I loved it. I loved it.

586
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: And then did you go out into the snow or

587
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: did you just slowly go back to a normal temperature.

588
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 3: We went out to the snow for a bit and

589
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: that was really fun. And then when we tried to

590
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: go get food, we drove out to the snow, but

591
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 3: there was a huge wreck, like a huge in front

592
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 3: of the shining Yeah, in front of this peaceful mine

593
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 3: retreat place.

594
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: There was a huge directly.

595
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 3: It was a mess. We had to turn around and

596
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 3: be like And then at one point my girlfriend said,

597
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 3: why don't I get out of the car and walk

598
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 3: to go get us food? I said, I go, You're

599
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: gonna freeze. It's snowing, like there's inches of snow out here.

600
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,959
Speaker 3: What's wrong with you?

601
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: Your girlfriend is a young Shelley Devall. She's hysterical. She's

602
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: running through a hedge maze. At this point, this is

603
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: a wild trip. Who would have thought.

604
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 3: It wasn't even that peaceful because there was a skylight

605
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 3: over the bedroom, so at like six in the morning,

606
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 3: the sun would rise over my face.

607
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: That's a horrible design.

608
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 3: It's awful. It was an awful room. It was a

609
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 3: beautiful place, in a beautiful room. But I would go

610
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: to sleep at like one or two in the morning

611
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: and then this light, just the sunrise, would wake me up.

612
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 2: It was just exhausted and starving, that's what it felt like.

613
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 3: It was pretty bad.

614
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: Oh boy, is this the first trip you've taken in

615
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: the pandemic.

616
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 3: It was the first trip that we took in the pandemic.

617
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 3: I have, Oh you gone anywhere?

618
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: So what a beautiful retreat? Yeah, yeah, Well, getting back

619
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 2: to twenty dollars, I want to understand why you gave

620
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: me twenty dollars.

621
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you why I gave you twenty dollars,

622
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 3: which is a lot of things come to mind. Which

623
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 3: is one thing that's particular that comes to mind from

624
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 3: my childhood is God bless my grandmother when she was alive,

625
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 3: my Abulita. When I was a young man in my

626
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 3: early twenties, I lived with her. I would often find

627
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: her in my room putting money into my wallet. Oh,

628
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 3: and then I would tell her. I would say, why

629
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 3: are you doing that? And she says, men are supposed

630
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: to have cash in their wallets. And then I would

631
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 3: show her my debit card or my credit I go,

632
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 3: this is money right here. And this is probably some

633
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 3: internalized misogyny. She would go, that is for women. Men

634
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 3: are supposed to carry cash. She hated the concept that

635
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 3: I relied on my debit card or a credit card.

636
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 3: She goes, no, you need to have cash on you.

637
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 3: That is it's a manly thing. It looks good in

638
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 3: front of women, like all this kind of stuff. So

639
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 3: anytime every few weeks she would sneak off and look

640
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 3: to see if there was any cash in my wallet,

641
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 3: and if there wasn't, she would put cash in there

642
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: and then just scold me on how men should have

643
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 3: money in their wallets.

644
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: This is like less of a grandmotherly instinct and more

645
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: of just like a I don't want my grandson to

646
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: be a I want him to be a real man.

647
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. It was a real like a Tim Allen's style man. Yeah.

648
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 3: She used to say, your grandfather always had money in

649
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 3: his wallet.

650
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: I guess, I mean, I feel like I have heard that,

651
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: like even in the last couple of years. I mean,

652
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: who what article could I have possibly been possibly been

653
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: reading that, like was suggesting that a man carry cash

654
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: in his wallet. But I feel like maybe somebody tweeted

655
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 2: or something. But I have heard that before, like men

656
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: carry cash. I mean, cash is not like a gender

657
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: specific form of currency. No, I mean, but I guess

658
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: if like old fashioned rules, I guess that makes sense

659
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: on some level, if you're a grandma or something.

660
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think old fashion in terms of like, I

661
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 3: don't know, it's like she goes. It just makes me

662
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 3: laugh because she goes, your grandfather always had cash and

663
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 3: I never met him, and I said, there was no

664
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: ATMs or debit cards when he was alive. It was

665
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 3: he had no choice with the carry cash.

666
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was this other option?

667
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I use iouser, you know, not or not have

668
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 3: money and beg for it, you know. But also I

669
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: think money means it's just one of those things where

670
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 3: Also one time, I remember somebody gave me a birthday

671
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 3: card and it was just a personalized note, and I said,

672
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 3: there's no money in here, and then I said, I

673
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: don't care how personalized this note is. It feels like

674
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 3: you're giving me something that says, hey, can you throw

675
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 3: this away from me?

676
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: Truly?

677
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, you know, because I have an aunt.

678
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 3: When she gives you a birthday card, she writes a

679
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 3: little personalized note in there, and then she puts a

680
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 3: lottery ticket in there, like a scratcher. It's great, it's great,

681
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 3: you know. I remember that one time. It was somebody

682
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 3: just gave me a It was a very generic personalized

683
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 3: note too, which was like you basically reiterated what was

684
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 3: on the card. It's already, so.

685
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: Why did you You're a plagiaristic Yeah, put some money

686
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: in there, right, I don't. I couldn't tell you the

687
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: last time I got just a blank I mean an

688
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: empty birthday card. Yeah, like that's something that like a

689
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: car dealership sends to you.

690
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 3: Or something like. Yeah, it feels like something like you

691
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 3: know when you get mail from your dentist. That's right,

692
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 3: your dentist, Happy New Year.

693
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: I hope that's what it felt, your chiropractor.

694
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it felt. Life. It was so also,

695
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 3: it just money means so many different things to me

696
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: because anytime it's my mom's birthday or Mother's Day or Christmas,

697
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 3: I go what do you want and she goes, give

698
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 3: me money, right, And then I go, are you sure?

699
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 3: She goes, yes, I'm gonna give you money, and you

700
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 3: give me money.

701
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: We will keep passing this back and forth. Yeah. It's

702
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: also one of those things too, where sometimes I don't

703
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 2: know what to get people.

704
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: Anymore, right, and then I go, what if I give

705
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 3: you money and you decide what to get with it?

706
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: It just seems to be so much. It's easy.

707
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: Oh, it's so nice. I mean, I still I don't know.

708
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just because there was such a long time

709
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: that I was just working crappy jobs and whatever, and

710
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: like every dollar was like, this is incredible, but still

711
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: like five dollars, like a five dollar bill to me,

712
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: I'm like that's big money. Oh yeah, like twenty dollars,

713
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: this is incredible. I like, It'll probably be six weeks

714
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 2: before I decide what I'm going to spend this on.

715
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know what's great about it, you might

716
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 3: forget about it and then find it in your pocket later, like.

717
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: In like the best feeling in the world.

718
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 3: It's the best feeling in the world. I feel like

719
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 3: then I'm regiving you read it's so easy. I just

720
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 3: think It's one of those things where it's like money

721
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: is such a great gift.

722
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 2: It doesn't even have to be a lot, No, of

723
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: course not. Yeah, I mean give me under five dollars.

724
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: It starts to be like, what's happening here? Yes, but

725
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: five dollars and above, I'm taking it. I'm thrilled.

726
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 3: Well, then you actually brought up something that is interesting.

727
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 3: Anything under five dollars is offensive.

728
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: Right, It's like, now, I mean you thought I needed

729
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: a dollar?

730
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, what is this? This is ridiculous. But we still

731
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 3: live in a world where you can do something with

732
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 3: five dollars.

733
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I could think of a million things to

734
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: do with five dollars. Yeah, you can still rent a

735
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: movie for five dollars.

736
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 3: Absolutely, It's so practical that you can can't beat.

737
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: It, right, You simply cannot be just a nice twenty

738
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 2: dollars bill.

739
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty dollars shirt.

740
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I can fill up my car with gas.

741
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: It like I can truly do whatever I want. I

742
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 2: can go out to dinner. Well I can't go out

743
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: to dinner right now, but order dinner.

744
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that twenty dollars. You can break it up four ways.

745
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 3: Now you have five dollars to section off like it's amazing.

746
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 3: It's really I sort of got I just I think

747
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 3: money is the most practical gift to give someone, and

748
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 3: nobody's ever offended, like, wow, you just gave me money.

749
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 2: Right, You couldn't think of something.

750
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 3: From it, didn't think of something.

751
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: No, everyone's happy to just have some extra money in

752
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: their bank account.

753
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 3: And also money. It's somehow it means so much to

754
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 3: everyone that it's like, Wow, you gave me some of.

755
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: Your money, right, the thing that you also want.

756
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 3: Yes, the thing that you also want, Yes, that's exactly it.

757
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: That's what I love about it. It's just it's like

758
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 3: it's nice to look at. I don't think it solves

759
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: the world's problems, but I think it solves small, immediate problems.

760
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: Right, And most of the time I just need to

761
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 2: solve immediate problems. I mean, if I can solve an

762
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: immediate problem and at least takes a little bit of

763
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 2: weight off of me for a minute, and I can

764
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 2: move on to my next problem.

765
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so much of what I love about Like

766
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 3: the gift of cash.

767
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: What was the last fun thing you bought for yourself?

768
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 3: Wow? I'm trying to think well, this is really funny.

769
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 3: So my mom, for I want to say Christmas, gave

770
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 3: me one hundred dollars.

771
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 2: Ooh, that's a nice gift.

772
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 3: That's a nice gift. So and it's funny too because

773
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 3: I got some return on what I gave her, because

774
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 3: I gave her two hundred dollars.

775
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 2: Oh perfect, So you essentially got a fifty percent off

776
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: on her gift.

777
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 3: I got some money back. But we never look at

778
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 3: it that way, which is like I still look good

779
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,959
Speaker 3: because I gave her more money, right, and I still

780
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 3: got some money back.

781
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: It is weird, like the inflation rates between exchanged money gifts. Right,

782
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: It's like, well, now I have one hundred dollars despite

783
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: the fact that I gave away two hundred dollars.

784
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so with it. With the one hundred dollars.

785
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 3: In that time, I bought a book, I bought some food,

786
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 3: you know, so it was great. It was just like

787
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 3: it's enough that I could just it lasted me like

788
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 3: two weeks.

789
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 2: One hundred dollars is nice because yeah, it allows like

790
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 2: to buy maybe a little piece of media, book, movie, whatever.

791
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 2: And then also we're all just blowing money on food

792
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: at all times. Yeah, you can go out and get

793
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: a nice little dinner or something.

794
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 3: And then also at the retreat we were at, I

795
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 3: left money for the.

796
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 2: Cleaning lady, Oh bless you.

797
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 3: And that was from that money. That's a really nice

798
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 3: one hundred dollars spent. Yeah, it was good. Bought some

799
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 3: food when we were in Julian, bought a book when

800
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 3: I was here in La and then just other miscellaneous things,

801
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: just kind of I said, you know what, this is great?

802
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 3: What book did you buy? It's this book called Overstated.

803
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 3: It's by the comedian Colin Quinn. It's his okay, his

804
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 3: history on the fifty States and whatnot. So oh interesting.

805
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 3: Well I haven't even read it yet and I bought

806
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 3: it a month ago. But I'm gonna get to it.

807
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 2: You'll get around to it.

808
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 3: I'll get around to it. But what's great is that

809
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: I can look at it and go I didn't spend

810
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 3: my money on that. I spent my mom's money on that.

811
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: I cannot. I love it. I love giving me.

812
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 2: I'm now going to have to like really put this

813
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: will be my next project, is thinking of how to

814
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 2: spend this twenty dollars and then I'll update you. You

815
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: can make it lass I'm gonna really, I think I'm gonna,

816
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 2: like really figure out something good to buy with this

817
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 2: twenty dollars. So I'm not gonna just let it go

818
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 2: to coffee or whatever. It's going to be a physical

819
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: object that comes into mind. Maybe some physical media, right,

820
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 2: maybe I get a new I could get a video game.

821
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 2: I mean this, I mean, the mind reels with the possibilities.

822
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 3: You can buy yourself a nice shirt, right.

823
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 2: I was looking at a shirt this afternoon, and then

824
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: I ultimately said, twenty five dollars is too much, didn't

825
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 2: buy it. But now suddenly the shirt is within reach.

826
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 3: It's in reach. Put five dollars of your own plus

827
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 3: my twenty.

828
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 2: Right, I mean it's essentially a five dollars T shirt.

829
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: Who can beat that?

830
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 3: Yeah? And now what's great about that is when you

831
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 3: look at that shirt, you won't even think I bought

832
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 3: that shirt. You could be like, oh, I bought that

833
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 3: shirt with the money Chris gave me.

834
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 2: Right, I know it'll be I mean, it's it is

835
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 2: imbued with meaning. All of a sudden, it's the Chris

836
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: Estrada shirt.

837
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: Yeah that's yeah. I'm telling you you can't really fail.

838
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 3: I don't think there's ever been anybody who is like,

839
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 3: why do you give me money?

840
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 2: The only time somebody I think is upset about getting

841
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 2: money is if you know, you see this in movies,

842
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: somebody throwing money in someone's face, like this is all

843
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 2: you want? Yesny, which I would love to get to

844
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 2: a point in my life when someone's just saying that

845
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 2: to me and throwing money in my face, you know,

846
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 2: a jilted lover this kind of thing.

847
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 3: Yes, I would love that. But you know it's actually too.

848
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 3: It's better than a gift card too, because I know

849
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 3: I've gotten gift cards where I go, oh great, now

850
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 3: I have to go to this fucking place, right.

851
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: Gift cards are kind of a scam, especially like I mean,

852
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 2: I worked at best Buy right out of high school,

853
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 2: and they like basically said, get people to buy gift

854
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: cards because people forget about gift cards and then we

855
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: just get their money.

856
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 3: Yes, that's exactly.

857
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 2: Yes, you got to be very careful with that sort

858
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: of thing.

859
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 3: I remember I was given a gift card once to Target,

860
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 3: and I recently a few months ago, I found the

861
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 3: card and there was still money on it and a

862
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 3: beautiful feeling, Yeah, beautiful feeling, but also now I looked

863
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 3: at it and said, oh, great, now I have to

864
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 3: go to fucking Target. And then I go, now I

865
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 3: gotta go to Target. It's fucking COVID targets are usually

866
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people there. And then I went,

867
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 3: but what am I gonna do? Let this go to waste?

868
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 3: Now I feel like, but with money, you decide where

869
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 3: you to.

870
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: Go, right, I can do whatever I want. Well, you

871
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 2: have to just get on the top Target website. Well, see,

872
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: don't go into what.

873
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 3: I never thought about that. I'm still a person that

874
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 3: buys CDs, so the idea of going to the Target

875
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 3: website had never occurred to me. So now there's a

876
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 3: revelation for me.

877
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: Right now, I want you to use that money. Don't

878
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: let them just hold your money hostage. Go and buy

879
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 2: truly anything on their website. Get your return. Yeah I'm

880
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: going to do that. I want to know what you

881
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,919
Speaker 2: end up buying from Target. And yeah, these giant corporations

882
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 2: that we can't let them just hoard our money. It's ridiculous.

883
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 3: Last I checked, I had like four dollars and fifty

884
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 3: two cents on that.

885
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 2: Oh that's a hard amount of money. That's like, what

886
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: am I going to buy?

887
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, what am I going to get? I feel like

888
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 3: i'd go. I would literally go and get em.

889
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: And m's like toothpaste.

890
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, do a toothpaste and just be like I really

891
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 3: stuck at the target. They're not going to get my

892
00:43:58,840 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 3: fucking money.

893
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: Oh beautiful? Oh man, I want to play a game. Yes,

894
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 2: I think we should play a game. We haven't played

895
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: this in a while. It's called gift Master. Okay, I

896
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 2: need a number between one and ten from you.

897
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 3: Let's go seven.

898
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I do some light calculating. You have the

899
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: microphone to promote something, recommend something, send a message to somebody,

900
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: whatever you want to do. I'll be right back.

901
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 3: Okay. During that time, I want to say that if

902
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 3: my girlfriend Katie is listening to this, I promise I

903
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: will get better at technology. And also I will eventually

904
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 3: see a doctor regarding my IBS issues. And also, you

905
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 3: know what, while you're listening, not my girlfriend, but people

906
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 3: who are listening, follow me on Twitter at Chris Estrada

907
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 3: eighty five. I love Twitter. I love writing jokes. Oh

908
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 3: this is what I'm gonna recommend. Don't buy people gift cards.

909
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 3: Really listen to what I'm saying is give people money,

910
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 3: even if it's twenty dollars, Just give it to them.

911
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 3: What are you going to do now they have to

912
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 3: drive somewhere, or they have to go on and then

913
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 3: order something to target. It's going to take long forever

914
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: to get there. Nah, money, money is the way to go.

915
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: Okay, I've done the calculating. I'm sorry that took so long,

916
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: but we have the tools we need to play the game. Now,

917
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 2: you got it, and that's what's important. This is how

918
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: the game works. I'm going to name three potential gifts

919
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: items that you can give away, and I'm going to

920
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,479
Speaker 2: tell you three celebrities. You have to tell me which

921
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: celebrity you're going to give which gift? And why does

922
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: that make sense?

923
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely all right.

924
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: The gifts we're playing with today are an astrological consultation,

925
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: so sending the person to an astrologist to you know,

926
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 2: consult on whatever their future they're past their present. Then

927
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: a box of gram Crackers. Everybody loves a gram Cracker.

928
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: And then finally, what is the final gift here? Oh,

929
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: it's a used Apple Watch, so it's not a new

930
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 2: Apple Watch. It's you know, maybe you found it. Maybe

931
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 2: you you know, it's just used to keep that in mind.

932
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 2: And the three people you have to give these two

933
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 2: are basketball player Lebron James, musical duo Daft Punk, and

934
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 2: oh another musician, Julian Casablancas of The Strokes. Are you

935
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: familiar with these three people?

936
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 3: Familiar? I'm familiar, right, take it away. I'm going to

937
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 3: give the gram Crackers to Daft Punk, okay, and I

938
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 3: will tell them you can have these Graham Crackers. You

939
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 3: have to eat them, but you cannot take your helmets off.

940
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 3: And I want to see them kind of lift them

941
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 3: up or sneak the gram cracker under their helmets into

942
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 3: their mouth. I want to see them have a hard time.

943
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 2: You want to see like crumbs falling down from the

944
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: thing as they're eating from the helmet.

945
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I want to say, not so fucking cool now, Huh.

946
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: Those do feel like in convenient things to have in

947
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 2: the middle of a concert. I don't know how you're

948
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 2: drinking or anything that feels troublesome.

949
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I would love to have that. I just

950
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: would want to, you know, there's so flick looking with

951
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,959
Speaker 3: their helmets and their costumes that just to have them

952
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 3: try to eat that while not taking off their helm.

953
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 3: I just love that. I love that.

954
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: And they're French, the French gram crackers. It's hard to say.

955
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: No, I don't know that they eat Graham crackers. Feels

956
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 3: feel very American, right, they feel very American. They feel

957
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 3: like a Biscotti people, even though I know Biscotti is

958
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 3: the Italians.

959
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 2: But right, but yeah, I can see the have Funk

960
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: eating a piscotti without the masks, but we want to

961
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: see them eating a gram cracker with the masks. Yeah, exactly,

962
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 2: in the middle of a concert, they're shoving a sheet

963
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 2: of crackers up the thing. Nobody knows what's.

964
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 3: Happening, nobody. They just see the crumbs all.

965
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: Over their word, right, all over their shiny suits.

966
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 3: That's right. And then I'm thinking for Lebron James, I

967
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 3: would I would give him the used Apple watch. Why, well,

968
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 3: this is a man I don't I don't believe he's

969
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 3: bought anything used ever, you know, I mean maybe in

970
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 3: his you maybe before he rich and famous, you know,

971
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 3: but I mean.

972
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 2: He's been rich and famous since he was like a teenager.

973
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I mean. So it's like, you know,

974
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 3: I would just love for him to have that I

975
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 3: think it would have ground him. I think I think

976
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: it would be like, here's this use watch. You have

977
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 3: to wear. Another person's sweat was on this. Yeah, it's

978
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 3: a humble I feel.

979
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 2: Like he like truly, despite the fact that it's an

980
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 2: Apple watch, the fact that it's used. I feel like

981
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 2: he wouldn't even be able to register what it is

982
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 2: as an object.

983
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wouldn't register it. He would just go, what

984
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 3: do I do with this? You know, I think I

985
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 3: think he'd be offended. I think he'd be like, I

986
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 3: could just buy a new one. Why don't you give

987
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 3: me cash? Yeah? Why didn't you give me cash? I

988
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 3: could have bought a new one with the cash, and

989
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 3: I said, no, you get you. And also, what I

990
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 3: love about that is you can guilt him into saying,

991
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 3: buy this to use one, because if not, this is

992
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 3: just going to become trash. Right, It's like this is

993
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 3: good for the environment. Like I recently cracked my cell

994
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 3: phone screen and I'm right, I don't have an iPhone.

995
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 3: And then my girlfriend said, you have to buy an

996
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 3: iPhone now, no more that, and I'm gonna go buy one.

997
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna buy a new one. I'm gonna

998
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:23,919
Speaker 3: buy a used one.

999
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: No, that's a great idea, I think, Yeah, you can.

1000
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 2: I mean they're all essentially the same technology.

1001
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, you know what if I don't

1002
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 3: buy a used one, it's just gonna end up in

1003
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 3: the trash somewhere. I'm trying to be a decent person.

1004
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 3: You can guilt Lebron James into, even though you know

1005
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 3: it's funny. Is I feel bad saying this because he

1006
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 3: actually does seem like a good person.

1007
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: He seems like he tries to do well.

1008
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he tries to do well, but you know what,

1009
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 3: put a little more pressure on him. Why not?

1010
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: We can all, you know, we can all afford to

1011
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: do a little better in our lives. Lebron James not accepted.

1012
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And with that said, I would I would

1013
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 3: give the astrological reading to Julian cass Blank of The Strokes.

1014
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 3: I think he would be into that kind of thing, right, Yeah.

1015
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, he seems like somebody who's kind of into, you know,

1016
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 2: weird experiences.

1017
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's into a weird experience. He kind of strikes

1018
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 3: me a new agey, right, you know, I think he

1019
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 3: would like that. I think, you know, I think if

1020
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 3: anybody needs to know what's in store for their future.

1021
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 3: It's musicians. I mean, it's oh my god, well this

1022
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 3: next album do good? Yes, you know, like what going.

1023
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 2: Get the Strokes back together? Will I be a solo artist?

1024
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 2: Will I get into painting?

1025
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think that would be good for him. I

1026
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 3: think he would appreciate that.

1027
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, who knows what the future holds.

1028
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 3: For Julian yeah or the Strokes, right.

1029
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: I mean it feels like a real guessing game for

1030
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 2: the entire group at this point. So absolutely, maybe you

1031
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: could use a little direction.

1032
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too.

1033
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 2: Have you had an astrological consultation before?

1034
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 3: You know, I have not. I feel like every now

1035
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: and then I read my you know, my astrology, like

1036
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 3: whatever they put out, and I always go, yeah, I

1037
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 3: guess that makes sense, you know, I just never had one.

1038
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 3: I one time went to a fortune teller. Oh where Yeah,

1039
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 3: in close to downtown Los Angeles and Pico Union. This

1040
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 3: girl I was dating at the time said you should

1041
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 3: go see my aunt. She's a fortune teller. She can

1042
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 3: read poems. And then I was like, I really wanted

1043
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 3: to like keep this relationship going and I wanted to

1044
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 3: get and I said, I'll do whatever you want. So

1045
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 3: I went to her aunt and it cost me fifty

1046
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 3: bucks and she gave me she read my palms and

1047
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 3: read my cards and you know, and it's really funny.

1048
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 3: She was just like, I feel like, she just said,

1049
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 3: it feels like you're someone who is trying to do

1050
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 3: trying to please their partner. And I just remember being like,

1051
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 3: I'm here.

1052
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 2: You completely nailed it. This whole thing, this relationship hinges

1053
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: on me visiting a fortune telling aunt. Yeah.

1054
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 3: So I'm just like, I feel like you're just talking

1055
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 3: to your niece about what.

1056
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: That's incredible.

1057
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I did that. I mean, it was an experience.

1058
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 3: It was kind of interesting. I mean, there was something

1059
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 3: ominous about her aunt that I was just like, oh,

1060
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 3: I love that. I went, I don't know if you

1061
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 3: if I really believe you can do this, but I

1062
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 3: believe that you believe you can do this. Like she

1063
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 3: was convinced, like you know, like it didn't feel like

1064
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 3: an act, Like it didn't feel like she was some

1065
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 3: snake oil salesman. She believed this.

1066
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 2: That's incredible. Yeah. I feel like that's part of the

1067
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 2: thing that's missing from like psychic and astrology things right now,

1068
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: is just like this scary factor. I needed to feel like,

1069
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 2: you know, there needs to be a crystal ball this

1070
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 2: kind of thing. That's what I'm really looking for in

1071
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 2: my fortune telling experience.

1072
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to have, you know, I want to

1073
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 3: go into somebody's like into somebody's house where you go, oh, okay,

1074
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 3: you sectioned this part off of your living room or

1075
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 3: at your base.

1076
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: There's a lot of beads hanging and that kind of

1077
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 2: very dim lighting, although you have to be careful. I

1078
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: read about like this woman who got scammed by a

1079
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 2: fortune teller who made her buy like a ninety thousand

1080
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 2: dollars gold pyramid and all of these things, so you

1081
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 2: some people can really get led down a crazy pay

1082
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 2: that type of thing.

1083
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 3: I mean, I remember I knew people who were if

1084
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 3: you remember miss.

1085
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: Kleio, oh of course, yeah, forget and then she.

1086
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 3: Got into legal problems and whatnot. But I knew people

1087
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 3: who would call those type of lines.

1088
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Speaker 2: And they were like a like a dollar a minute

1089
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:37,959
Speaker 2: or something.

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00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was insane. You know that they foresee debt

1091
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 3: in your future, right.

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00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 2: How is that a relaxing phone call? I would just

1093
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 2: be sweating, thinking, yeah, I've got to get this over

1094
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: as quickly as possible. I need my fortune and I

1095
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 2: need to get off the phone.

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00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. I also feel like if somebody's going to tell

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00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 3: your fortune or not that I believe in it, but

1098
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 3: I feel like for it to be slight licam vincent

1099
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 3: in my mind is I have to be there because

1100
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 3: then I could then say, wow, she must be able

1101
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 3: to really read my energy, right, you know, I have

1102
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 3: to find ways to justify it in my mind. Where

1103
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 3: if it's just a phone call, I'm just like, what

1104
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 3: the fuck does she know?

1105
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: Or he?

1106
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 2: Right, if I'm dialing one nine hundred, I'm like, oh,

1107
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: this is not They don't know who I am.

1108
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, they have no idea.

1109
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: That all that they literally all they know about me

1110
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 2: is that I make poor decisions and I'm desperate. Yes, yes, clearly. Well,

1111
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: I think you played the game perfectly there. I think

1112
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: all of those gifts are well well thought out and

1113
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 2: everybody would be happy with those I Now we need

1114
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 2: to move on to the final segment. This is called

1115
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,439
Speaker 2: I said no emails. People are writing into I said

1116
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: no gifts at gmail dot com. Let's answer a question

1117
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 2: or two to it. This first one says hello Bridger

1118
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 2: and disobeying guest into they're obviously talking about you. Yeah,

1119
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 2: my husband and I got married in October, but had

1120
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 2: to move our wedding to June eighteenth, twenty twenty one

1121
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 2: because of obviously the pandemic. We had so many nice

1122
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 2: friends and family members bias gifts off the registry last

1123
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 2: year that when we officially got married. Oh, this is interesting,

1124
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 2: what a great question for this podcast. Actually, and our

1125
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 2: registry is now empty. I've had a few people mention

1126
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: slash complain to me about this, but I really can't

1127
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 2: think of any more registry items that we still need.

1128
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 2: Is it taki to basically ask for money and not

1129
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 2: add more kitchen or house items to the registry. By

1130
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 2: the way, you're absolutely invited to the wedding if you

1131
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 2: care to venture to North Carolina when the world opens

1132
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 2: up again. Invitation accepted. Chris and I will be coming.

1133
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 2: That's sincerely, Sam. So, basically, they got everything they needed

1134
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 2: off this registry, and apparently they have the most generous

1135
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 2: friends and family in the world. Is it okay to

1136
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: ask them for money? What do you think I will

1137
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 2: say this. I think it is taki, but I think

1138
00:55:53,800 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 2: it's perfectly okay. I think you can get absolutely taky, but.

1139
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 3: Absolutely to just say you don't ask for money, you

1140
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 3: are given money. But with that said, I do believe

1141
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 3: money is a great practical gift. So people should be like,

1142
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 3: it is tacky, but you are doing them a favor

1143
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 3: in that they go great. I don't fucking have to

1144
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 3: think about what to get them, right, and you know

1145
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 3: I can just send them fifty dollars or one hundred

1146
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 3: dollars or twenty dollars. You know, well, you know I

1147
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 3: wouldn't send a couple who just got engaged twenty dollars.

1148
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 2: Right the wedding twenty dollars doesn't feel quite appropriate.

1149
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 3: Fifty is a fifty.

1150
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 2: Dollars is the wedding amount. I think it's probably like

1151
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 2: the Lewest universally agreed wedding amount.

1152
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, go from there. I mean, I definitely

1153
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 3: wouldn't asked for money. A little tacky, but you know, you, Sam,

1154
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 3: go for it. Don't have shame in.

1155
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 2: Your I say, go for it. I've seen wedding invitations

1156
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: that say that will be like give us money essentially,

1157
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,280
Speaker 2: like here's a link to a website to give us money.

1158
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: I don't think. I mean, at this point, I think

1159
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:07,720
Speaker 2: anything goes, we're all living in a tacky world. Everything's tacky.

1160
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: Just go for it.

1161
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's really funny. I don't know if

1162
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 3: this is just a Mexican tradition, and a lot of

1163
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 3: the Mexican weddings I would go to. There's a tradition

1164
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 3: where there's a part where you pin money, where you

1165
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 3: dance with the with the bride or the groom and

1166
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 3: you pin money on them. They give you little pin

1167
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 3: needles and you.

1168
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: Oh, that's great. Yeah, so why is that not a

1169
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 2: tradition to every wedding. That's incredible. So it's really funny.

1170
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 3: So then by the time you're done dancing this part

1171
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 3: of the ceremony is over, the bride will have money

1172
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 3: pinned all over her and the groom will have money

1173
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,959
Speaker 3: pinned all over him. I love that. Yeah. So it's

1174
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 3: like so she can kind of look at it like

1175
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 3: this and be like, hey, there's an aspect of Mexican culture.

1176
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 3: We really like we're there.

1177
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: And now she whether she's Mexican or not, she could say,

1178
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 2: Chris told me to do this at my wedding. It's

1179
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 2: now an element of the wedding. Everyone money to me, Yeah.

1180
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 3: Pin money on her pin money on her or the groom. Yeah. Absolutely,

1181
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 3: I love yeah, because then you can hide tackiness in

1182
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 3: the guise of tradition, right.

1183
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 2: I mean, most traditions are kind of tacky. They've just

1184
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 2: been around a long time. I think that's the definition

1185
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 2: of a tradition, something that started out tacky than people

1186
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 2: kept doing.

1187
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, what a great question. I mean that totally

1188
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 3: fell in line.

1189
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 2: That's so bizarre that the game. Oh, let's you know

1190
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 2: what I have. I have literally fifty nine pages of questions.

1191
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 2: Let's answer one more. I feel like I've got to

1192
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 2: be more on top of this. We'll do this one quickly.

1193
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 2: And it says high Bridger. My mom doesn't have hobbies,

1194
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 2: and in this global pandemic, it seems risky to get

1195
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 2: her tickets to a concert or event.

1196
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 3: I agree.

1197
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 2: For her last birthday, I got her some candy and

1198
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 2: made a donation to a local a local beagle rescue

1199
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 2: in honor of our late family dog, Ginger. She seems

1200
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 2: to enjoy those gifts, but I don't want to give

1201
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: repeating gifts any ideas. That's from Kathy and California, So

1202
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 2: it sounds like the mom I mean, from all I

1203
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 2: can tell here is the mom likes dogs, and obviously

1204
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 2: we can't be sending moms out into the pandemic right.

1205
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 3: Now, No, we cannot.

1206
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 2: What do you get this person?

1207
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 3: So she doesn't like gifts and she likes to donate

1208
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 3: money on.

1209
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 2: Her behalf, right, I mean, I mean it can be

1210
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 2: a gift. She just doesn't want to give a repeating gift.

1211
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 2: I mean, Kathy, it would have been nice to know

1212
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 2: what some of the past gifts are outside of the

1213
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 2: beagle rescue, but you know, we can only do what

1214
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 2: we can. The first thing off the top of my head,

1215
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 2: and this is an actual gift, I'm just realizing this.

1216
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 2: I've known this artist, Katie Kimmel does these like ceramic

1217
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: pet You send her like a picture of your pet,

1218
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 2: and she'll do like a ceramic vase of your pet.

1219
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 2: That's just I rarely give good gift advice on this podcast,

1220
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 2: and the fact that that came up out of my head,

1221
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 2: that's something to think about.

1222
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 3: That's great. I like that. That's better than I was

1223
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 3: going to say, which was, why don't you just rescue

1224
00:59:58,800 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 3: a beagle?

1225
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 2: That's not a bad I mean, it sounds like the

1226
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 2: dog is out of the picture, right now let's get

1227
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 2: another animal. And there are dogs all over the place.

1228
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 3: Let's get another one. Let's you know, let's properly mourn

1229
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 3: your past dog, Ginger and keep her in our memories

1230
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 3: and keep you know, you're going to always keep her

1231
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 3: in her memories. But you know, get a new dog.

1232
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 3: Maybe that that's a great idea. I think that might

1233
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 3: be a good idea.

1234
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 2: There are so many, you know, homeless dogs, and I

1235
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 2: mean my dogs rescue, fantastic animal, the most valuable thing

1236
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 2: in our house.

1237
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you have a dog? I do not. Well,

1238
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 3: we have a family dog. I don't live at home,

1239
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 3: but I do consider it our dog.

1240
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 2: All right, what's its name?

1241
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 3: Her name is Sophie. Oh cute, she's fourteen years old.

1242
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 3: I love her to death. She's a grandmother. She's hard

1243
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 3: of hearing. Now, that's just kind of wants to lay

1244
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 3: down all the time and the sun doesn't really well.

1245
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 3: Play for maybe like two minutes and then go yeah,

1246
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 3: I'm done with this and then you'll go to sleep.

1247
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's our dog. But me and my girlfriend

1248
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 3: do have a cat.

1249
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 2: Oh, you have a cat? What's a cat's name?

1250
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 3: The cat? Beget beget buget. Yeah.

1251
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 2: Oh, that's great.

1252
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, we take it's a really good cat. We take

1253
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 3: it out for walks.

1254
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 2: Oh what on a leash?

1255
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, a harness and a leash, and it does it well.

1256
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,959
Speaker 3: It's not like walking a dog and where a dog

1257
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 3: will walk wherever you go. Cat want to have a

1258
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 3: miner of their own, so they're just like you. Basically,

1259
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 3: we take it out into the parking lot and we

1260
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 3: just walk with it as it hunts crickets and kills crickets.

1261
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 2: Oh that's great.

1262
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1263
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 2: Oh so you just have to have a different attitude

1264
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 2: about walking a cat. Yeah, you're not walking it around

1265
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 2: the block. You're following it.

1266
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 3: You're following it. You realize, oh, this cat's walking me

1267
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 3: while it hunts people, while it hunts crickets and other bugs.

1268
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 3: You know, you have to put your ego aside and

1269
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 3: go this fucking cat owns me. I don't own it.

1270
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 2: That feels like a good character building exercise.

1271
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not bad. I enjoy it.

1272
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 2: Okay, Kathy, you know we've we actually just gave two

1273
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 2: just solid gift recommendations. I mean, Kathy, bless you, but

1274
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 2: you gave us very little to work with here, So

1275
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 2: take what you can get.

1276
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think we did good by you.

1277
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean we've done a stunning job. Nobody can

1278
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 2: say we didn't do that, Chris. That's all we need

1279
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 2: to do there, We've done our work. Look, I now

1280
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 2: I'm twenty dollars richer. This is incredible. Who would have

1281
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 2: thought that I'd sit down and make twenty dollars on

1282
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 2: this podcast.

1283
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 3: Now I feel good about myself. I also felt like,

1284
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 3: I feel good about that I gave you twenty dollars.

1285
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,919
Speaker 3: I also feel good that I helped Kathy. I helped,

1286
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 3: you know, and then I helped the I gave some

1287
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 3: self awareness that she is TACKI for asking for money.

1288
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 3: But it's okay, you know, I think I feel great.

1289
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 2: This podcast is essentially community service. At this potent, you

1290
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 2: just get on here and do good for the world.

1291
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, this podcast was a gift to me.

1292
01:02:56,440 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 2: It absolutely Yeah, Chris, thank you so much for here.

1293
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 2: This has just been a wonderful time.

1294
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you.

1295
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,479
Speaker 2: I'll keep you updated on what I end up buying

1296
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 2: with the twenty dollars. Let me know, it could be

1297
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 2: years before I decide, but I will make the perfect choice.

1298
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 3: With this cred it out let.

1299
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 2: It bring you joy, everyone, this is the end of

1300
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 2: the podcast. I have twenty dollars and you don't. You're

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Speaker 2: going to have to find out how to make your

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Speaker 2: own money, so that's your responsibility for the rest of

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Speaker 2: the day. Move on, goodbye. I said, No Gifts is

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Speaker 2: an exactly right production. It's engineered by our dear friend

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Speaker 2: Analise Nelson and the theme song is by miracle worker

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Speaker 2: Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram at

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Speaker 2: I said No Gifts, that's where you're going to see

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Speaker 2: pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. Listen and

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Speaker 2: subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you found me.

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Speaker 2: And why not leave a review while you're there. It's

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Speaker 2: really the least you could do. And if you're interested

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Speaker 2: in advertising on the show, go to midroll dot com

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Speaker 2: slash ads.

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Speaker 1: But I invited you here thought I made myself perfectly clear.

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Speaker 3: But you're a.

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Speaker 1: Guess to my home. You gotta come to me empty,

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Speaker 1: and I said, no, guess. Your presences presents enough that

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Speaker 1: I already had too much stuff, So how do you

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Speaker 1: dare to surbey me?