WEBVTT - #21: Chiefs Super Bowl fatigue?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a brand new edition of NFL Power Rankings. Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Am and Eric head home with you, and it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a special edition for us. I'm usually in the

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<v Speaker 1>studio and this week I'm at the East West Rine Ball,

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<v Speaker 1>which will be able to catch on Thursday on NFL

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<v Speaker 1>Network at Eastern time.

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<v Speaker 2>And we know, Eric is that the Senior Bowl. Certainly

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<v Speaker 2>bumped up for that matchup to see some of.

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<v Speaker 1>The best college players in the entire country. But here's

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<v Speaker 1>the best part, Eric, draft a side college players aside.

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<v Speaker 1>We finally know the Super Bowl matchup and it's a rematch.

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<v Speaker 1>It too ridiculously talented teams.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to sprint to the finish, right, just like

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<v Speaker 2>my run through the airport. Yeah. No, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>great time of year, especially for the draft knicks out there.

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<v Speaker 2>They're starting to update their needs lists, their prospect lists,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll be watching a lot of them, you and

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<v Speaker 2>I between our two locations.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we will have everyone covered here, but if you're

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<v Speaker 1>checking out the show, you want to know the rankings.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not really a huge surprise to see who's

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<v Speaker 1>in that top spot six consecutive weeks. The Kansas Cheeps,

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<v Speaker 1>they just have to figure out ways to win football games,

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<v Speaker 1>and we might be talking about a history making team

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<v Speaker 1>with a third consecutive Super Bowl. The team they will

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<v Speaker 1>match up against moved up two spots, so that is

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<v Speaker 1>the Philadelphia Eagles, the Bills drop a spot, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Commanders fall into that fourth position. We'll talk about all

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<v Speaker 1>four of these teams, but had tip major respect, we

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<v Speaker 1>got to start with the number one squad. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>phrase that has been thrown out there on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen it done on shows when I'm checking in

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<v Speaker 1>on NFL coverage and they say Chiefs fatigue. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>a fair way to look at this squad? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>would argue it shouldn't be fatigue. We should be saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, this is pretty.

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<v Speaker 2>Special, Yeah, Mike. We experienced something pretty similar, I think

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<v Speaker 2>with New England a generation or two ago, and it

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<v Speaker 2>obviously got a little tiresome for fans to see the

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<v Speaker 2>same team in there every single year. We're watching the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest quarterback of his generation, even if the stats don't

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<v Speaker 2>always add up. He wasn't in the MVP conversation necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>this year, but Patrick Mahomes delivered a tremendous game against

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<v Speaker 2>the Bills defense that was shorthanded. He took it. He

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<v Speaker 2>got the three touchdowns that he needed, and his teammates

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<v Speaker 2>certainly helped him out too. Xavier are Worthy. What a

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<v Speaker 2>tremendous game he had too. So here's a new face,

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<v Speaker 2>right Here's a guy that we watched at the Combine

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<v Speaker 2>last year blow it up, and he's a new addition

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<v Speaker 2>to this team. So there are some new faces there.

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<v Speaker 2>And listen, like, I agree, greatness you appreciate it in

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<v Speaker 2>the moment that you try to at best, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>what we're witnessing right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I use the analogy all the time, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think the same can be said for and you made

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<v Speaker 1>a reference to the Patriots to you know, Tom Brady.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad I was an adult and understood what was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I was still a kid when Jordan's bulls were kind

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<v Speaker 1>of running through the NBA, but I understood what was

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<v Speaker 1>going on. I like to be able to say that

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen those guys play and I understand what greatness

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<v Speaker 1>really is. We're witnessing that right now. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a layer to this conversation. You know, for a

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo perspective, I asked you this question last week, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about the Bills in their downfall. But on

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<v Speaker 1>last week's show, I said, hey, is this team, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>is this their best chance? Is the best team that

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen Buffalo? Now they fall short. I'd ask you

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing about this Chief squad because the last

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<v Speaker 1>two Super Bowls, it does feel different to watch this

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<v Speaker 1>year's Kansas City Chief squad than the one that we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen the last two campaigns.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they've mastered these close game victories and it's seemingly,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Andy Reid and Steve Spagnolo coming up with

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<v Speaker 2>great plans every single week and understanding, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be done to win this game. Right. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is again, I would say, a different version of

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<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs that we've seen, at least for most of

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<v Speaker 2>the year. And you're right, this team in particular has

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<v Speaker 2>had to overcome a lot the left tackle issues. Obviously

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<v Speaker 2>at times, the secondary was a little shorthanded, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the receiver injuries as well. So a lot of new

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<v Speaker 2>faces in these spots, and yet the same old consistency

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<v Speaker 2>Andy Reid, great game plans, Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelcey, all

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<v Speaker 2>those guys executing it. It's it's pretty brilliant stuff to

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<v Speaker 2>watch in real time. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, we're going to do a deep dive in a

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl preview next week here on power rankings. But

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<v Speaker 1>is there something that comes to mind as the secret

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<v Speaker 1>sauce for them to win a third consecutive after you've

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<v Speaker 1>now seen essentially a full season plus the postseason, with

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<v Speaker 1>just one game left for Casey.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, obviously you know they're gonna get Philly's best game, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, even though not everybody from that Eagles team

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<v Speaker 2>was there when they lost to the Chiefs in the

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl, a super Bowl, they probably felt they should

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<v Speaker 2>have won. But there's no doubt that the Eagles are

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<v Speaker 2>going to come in and say, all right, this time

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<v Speaker 2>we cannot be beaten. Right, we have to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to get a lead, hang on and don't give it up, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because when the Chiefs start dictating the flow of play,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when things get real scary. Obviously, Mahomes in the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth quarter, you can never count that guy out. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, whatever it takes to save the energy of

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<v Speaker 2>those pass rushers, make sure you rotate throughout the game

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<v Speaker 2>for the Eagles and get after him because boy, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>defending these guys for four quarters. Even if the offensive

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<v Speaker 2>numbers don't look all that mind blowing. By game's end,

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<v Speaker 2>they will have cut you at some point and dug deep.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what they often do. And Philly knows that

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<v Speaker 2>more than anybody. Nick Sirianni Jalen hurts everybody else who

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<v Speaker 2>went through it the last time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you see that image there of Patrick Mahomes kind

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<v Speaker 1>of holding up the Lombardi Trophy. You think about what

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<v Speaker 1>this guy has been able to accomplish. You mentioned the

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<v Speaker 1>greatness there, but it is about also some of the

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<v Speaker 1>pieces around him. You loved up, Andy Reid. I think

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<v Speaker 1>about a conversation I had with Brian Baldinger last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and I made reference to the fact that this is

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<v Speaker 1>a different KC team, right. I think about that first championship,

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<v Speaker 1>high flying, explosive place, Tyreek Hill running all over the

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<v Speaker 1>place last year. I think about this team's defense, and

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<v Speaker 1>Baldy made a really good point. He goes, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand how Spags is now on the sidelines, not as

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<v Speaker 1>a DC of this team, but as a head coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Had some interviews. According to a lot of our insiders,

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<v Speaker 1>are you surprised we're not talking about him, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>really leading the charge and kind of having the reigns

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<v Speaker 1>of his own team.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think everybody knew in that key spot, that

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<v Speaker 2>fourth down with just under two minutes to go, they

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<v Speaker 2>said Spags is going to bring a blitz. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Allen knew it too, but he wasn't able to

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<v Speaker 2>pick out exactly where the pressure was coming from. He

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<v Speaker 2>kind of drifted into it. You know, that's a cloud

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<v Speaker 2>six Spags call. We've seen enough big Chiefs games over

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<v Speaker 2>the last five, six, seven years to where we kind

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<v Speaker 2>of know this guy is going to bring it. He's

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<v Speaker 2>not going to go down without swinging, And it's just

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<v Speaker 2>sort of that instinct that makes you think this guy

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<v Speaker 2>is an exceptional football coach. Now, his first go round

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<v Speaker 2>as a head coach did not go well, asked Saint

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<v Speaker 2>Louis Rams fans. They remember it all too unfondly, I

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<v Speaker 2>should say, But you know, it begs the question does

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<v Speaker 2>he deserve that second chance? This is somebody who's been

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<v Speaker 2>overlooked the last couple of cycles, even with a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of token interviews along the way. So you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>still believe the Hall of Fame should be open to

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<v Speaker 2>assistant coaches, guys like the Jimmy Great Jimmy Johnson from

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<v Speaker 2>Philadelphia and others who you know Monti Kiffen and these

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<v Speaker 2>great defensive coordinators. I would put Steve Spagnola in that

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<v Speaker 2>wing too, because I think he belongs. But let's not

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<v Speaker 2>end his chapter as just a coordinator and a one

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<v Speaker 2>time head coach. I still am holding out hope that

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<v Speaker 2>he can get a second opportunity. I think he deserves it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm with you one hundred percent from that perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe if they want another Super Bowl that eventually

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<v Speaker 1>come for him. And it's gonna be tough against the

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<v Speaker 1>number two ranked team and that is the Philadelphia Eagles

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<v Speaker 1>trying to redeem themselves from couple of seasons ago and

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<v Speaker 1>win a Super Bowl championship. We've spent a good stretch

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<v Speaker 1>of this season talking about who the MVP is and

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, Lamar Jackson is a Josh Allen. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a time where Saquon Barkley was in the mix.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh's criticism now really is hey can't beat Mahomes when

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<v Speaker 1>it counts the great players. And by the way, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I totally agree with that assertion, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what people are saying. I know, maybe the numbers bear

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<v Speaker 1>it out, and I do have to believe it, but

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<v Speaker 1>guys are delivering the best players in the NFL in

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<v Speaker 1>the game's biggest moments, and Saquon Barkley is doing that

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<v Speaker 1>right now. For as great as Mahomes is, Saquon is

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<v Speaker 1>just doing it differently in a different position and is

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<v Speaker 1>also fantastic. Is he enough to run this team to

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<v Speaker 1>a championship.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point? Who am I to doubt him? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we've sort of said this is not the

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<v Speaker 2>age of the running backs. It's a quarterback driven era.

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<v Speaker 2>But you've seen this slow shift and I think this

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<v Speaker 2>last free agent class with guys like Saquon Barkley and

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Jacobs and others who really thrived in new environments,

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<v Speaker 2>the run game is cycling back in and Saquon, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of holding the scepter right now. He is

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<v Speaker 2>the guy at the front of the line and can

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<v Speaker 2>make people miss, can make those big plays out of nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was a devastating rushing attack, right They had

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<v Speaker 2>no stop, They had no answers for that and no

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<v Speaker 2>way to stop it. So yeah, I mean, this might

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<v Speaker 2>be the one guy at that position right now who

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<v Speaker 2>I think has a chance to kind of out Mahomes

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<v Speaker 2>Mahomes a little bit. I'm not saying Jalen Hurts isn't

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<v Speaker 2>going to play his role, but Barkley is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be such a weapon. They haven't even used them that

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<v Speaker 2>much as a receiver too, so they've got that in

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<v Speaker 2>their back pocket. But what he does as the runner

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<v Speaker 2>is absolutely scentilating, and he's that good. He deserves to

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<v Speaker 2>be in that MVP conversation for good reason. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we can love up Saquon Barkley in two years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I think about Jalen Hurts, who, if I'm not mistake,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a runner up in that MVP vote.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's how talented he was and we actually thought,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Gez demonstrats you could have won that football game.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he still that same guy? And I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to make an argument that he's not just based

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<v Speaker 1>off of, you know, the three touchdown performance and getting

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<v Speaker 1>into that end zone and looking as good as he

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<v Speaker 1>did in the ground game, but it doesn't have the

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<v Speaker 1>same type of finger His fingerprints on the game aren't

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<v Speaker 1>what we saw a couple of years ago when he

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<v Speaker 1>could have been the league MVP.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a fair question to ask. He may not

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<v Speaker 2>be quite as prolific as we see him in that

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<v Speaker 2>last Super Bowl against the Chiefs, bombing it out. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't see that quite as much. Obviously, it's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more of a ball control offense. Saquan certainly has

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<v Speaker 2>something to do with it, but I also think it

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<v Speaker 2>has to do with the fact that Hurts has kind

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<v Speaker 2>of taken a beating, right, but the fact that he

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<v Speaker 2>was able to come out and pretty much dispel those

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<v Speaker 2>injury questions after getting his leg bent backward pretty pretty far,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to the point where his availability was at

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<v Speaker 2>least in some doubt early in the week, that question

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of thrown out the window. And he really

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<v Speaker 2>played a terrific game in the NFC Championship game, did

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<v Speaker 2>what he needed to do to win. And yeah, he

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<v Speaker 2>may not be that superhero who is sort of matching

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<v Speaker 2>Mahomes play for play, but the rushing production is there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he found a groove with aj Brown again.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a huge development right there, and when they need to,

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<v Speaker 2>they can absolutely dial it up.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I asked you about the Kansas City Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>and how different this year looks compared to the last

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<v Speaker 1>two years. I also think that this team has got

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<v Speaker 1>This Eagles team has got some similarities to the one

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<v Speaker 1>that we saw two years ago because of the defense,

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<v Speaker 1>which took a hit last year, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why they weren't in the postseason. Is this

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<v Speaker 1>team better though, than the one that lost to the

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say this, you know, adding those two rookie

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<v Speaker 2>defensive backs Quinnon Mitchell at outside corner and Cooper to

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<v Speaker 2>Jean at the slot safety kind of a hybrid role

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<v Speaker 2>if you will, also helping out on special teams. And

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<v Speaker 2>then you add guys like Zach Bond who's had a

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<v Speaker 2>career year and you know you lose, you have injuries

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<v Speaker 2>at linebacker, Orton Burke steps up and has a terrific

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<v Speaker 2>NFC Championship game. You know it was other guys stepping

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<v Speaker 2>up up front too. So maybe they get Brandon Graham

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<v Speaker 2>back to for the Super Bowl, one extra body. You

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<v Speaker 2>know he'd love to, you know, either cap his career

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<v Speaker 2>or extend his career with the Super Bowl and one

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<v Speaker 2>chance to win another ring for Philly. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. It'd be fascinating to kind of put those

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<v Speaker 2>two defenses side by side and do an apples to

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<v Speaker 2>apples comparison. But as we've seen this group grow, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>starting to come around on the idea they might be

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<v Speaker 2>as good or possibly better than that devastating unit that

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<v Speaker 2>led the league in sacks a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, once again, I think it just looks a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit different. I'd still probably give the edge to that

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<v Speaker 1>team from two seasons ago. But here's the beauty of it, Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know this, it doesn't matter. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>brand new season. Just like we have the MVP conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Lamar Jackson's numbers are better than they were your ago,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's got to be the MVP. No, no, no, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not how it works. And it doesn't matter if the

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles defense might have been better two years ago. This

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<v Speaker 1>unit right now is very good and they're matching up

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<v Speaker 1>against a very talented Chiefs team. What happened to the

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo Bills. We thought that this was their best chance

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<v Speaker 1>to go and get over the hump in an AFC

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<v Speaker 1>championship game today, what are you thinking about what you

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<v Speaker 1>witnessed on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel for Bills fans, I really do. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they're an excellent team now. This year obviously it started

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<v Speaker 2>in for agency, having to kind of bleed the roster

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. Injuries did kind of hurt them late

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<v Speaker 2>and not having you know, Taylor Rapp and Christian Benford

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<v Speaker 2>for most of that game. So you know, you think

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<v Speaker 2>about things like that. But boy, Josh Allen had Look,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to say it, they had an MVP caliber season,

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<v Speaker 2>and they appeared to get that first down up one

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<v Speaker 2>point decent way through the fourth quarter with the game

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<v Speaker 2>kind of shifting in there in their favor. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>get the call. Chiefs get go down score. This is

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<v Speaker 2>where you could sort of see it coming if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a Bill span because you watch these games against the

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<v Speaker 2>Chiefs and other teams too, but certainly Kansas City the

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<v Speaker 2>main combatant that has sort of broken their heart what

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<v Speaker 2>four times now in the playoffs and a five year span.

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<v Speaker 2>It has to be just absolutely awful to sit through

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<v Speaker 2>these games knowing that if we give them as beating

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<v Speaker 2>the Kansas City Chiefs, they are going to cut our throats.

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<v Speaker 2>So and that's what happened, and that's there's really no

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<v Speaker 2>other way to say it. But you look at Josh

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<v Speaker 2>and you look how well he played. He's in the

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<v Speaker 2>peak of his career, and they still can't find the

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<v Speaker 2>paths to the super Bowl. That's the hardest part for

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<v Speaker 2>them right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, you're at the Senior Bowl this week. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Atie Sweat Shrine Bowl, and that's to look ahead to

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<v Speaker 1>the draft. And I'm not asking who they should draft,

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<v Speaker 1>but in this offseason, what is the priority do you

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<v Speaker 1>think for Buffalo to sort of build this roster and

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<v Speaker 1>get over the hunk, Because at least on paper, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought this roster heading into the season wasn't as good

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<v Speaker 1>as the one that we saw last year, and yet

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the year, I thought they had

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<v Speaker 1>a chance. I thought they Hell, on game day preview,

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<v Speaker 1>I picked the Bills, I thought they were gonna win

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<v Speaker 1>that game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would be loading up on defensive depths, certainly.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean in the more impact players you can find,

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<v Speaker 2>the better. But you know, you saw when they had

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<v Speaker 2>to take Benford out and go to kyer Elam, who

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<v Speaker 2>was a first round pick a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>just unfortunately hasn't found a role there in Buffalo, and

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<v Speaker 2>as soon as he came into the game, they went

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<v Speaker 2>after him. So cornerback has to be a place. Cole

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<v Speaker 2>Bishop had somewhat of a tough game at safety. Still

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<v Speaker 2>a young guy, plenty of promise, but I would like

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<v Speaker 2>to feel a little bit better about my safety position,

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<v Speaker 2>even with guys like Taylor Rapp in the mix Tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>Hamlin coming back and playing well after his scary incident

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<v Speaker 2>in Cincinnati. But yeah, you have to find more pass

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<v Speaker 2>rush sources. You have to find. Really, I would argue

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<v Speaker 2>depth on all three levels of the defense, though I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think Brandon Bean's gonna go out there and use

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<v Speaker 2>every draft pick he has on that side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>That might be a little too short sided. They probably

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<v Speaker 2>need another receiver. There are other places where they could

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<v Speaker 2>bolster their depth, but the offense is in pretty good shape.

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<v Speaker 2>They can go by with minimal additions on that side. Defensively, though,

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<v Speaker 2>as von Miller gets up there and Matt Milano's injuries

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<v Speaker 2>keep piling up and things like that, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>just need a couple more difference makers. And look what

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<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs did a couple of years ago when they

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<v Speaker 2>drafted that slew of young defensive backs and they want

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<v Speaker 2>a Super Bowl the following year. That made a big difference.

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<v Speaker 2>So don't tell me that the draft can't have an impact.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously it has in Philly and other places as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's why I can't wait for the NFL Draft.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we got thirty teams that are thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>it right now, except for those two times playing in

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl. Speaking of the draft changing the fortunes

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<v Speaker 1>of a franchise, we saw that with the number four team,

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<v Speaker 1>the Commanders. They get Jaden Daniels and we say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>everything is going to be okay. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be the negative dude here, but you know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes we've seen some teams have some success and it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't guarantee success that following season. Why do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>so confident that Jaden Daniels can be better the next

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<v Speaker 1>season than he was this season.

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<v Speaker 2>Jaden may even take a step back. We obviously saw

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<v Speaker 2>that with CJ. Stroud this year, where he didn't you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we were sort of ready to elevate him into that

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<v Speaker 2>upper echelon of quarterbacks. That didn't happen this year wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>all his fault. But I also don't think he played

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<v Speaker 2>quite as well. He's going to get everybody's best shot

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<v Speaker 2>next year. There's no sneaking up on this guy. Defensive

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<v Speaker 2>coordinators who have the commanders on their schedule are going

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<v Speaker 2>to watch or over the tape and make sure they

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<v Speaker 2>can find any kind of cracks in the armor to

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<v Speaker 2>find out how do you beat this guy? So what's

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<v Speaker 2>the best way. Obviously you probably start with the Eagles

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<v Speaker 2>game and see what the shortcomings were there. They had

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<v Speaker 2>a three game losing streak as well. But that said

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<v Speaker 2>hard not to think that the sky is extremely high

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<v Speaker 2>for this guy and this team too. There were so

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<v Speaker 2>many holes in this roster. Mike. I think I had

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<v Speaker 2>him twenty sixth in my August ranking twenty eighth at

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<v Speaker 2>one point we had a graphic on that a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks ago, just to make sure everybody knew or

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<v Speaker 2>how low I had him. But I was sort of

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<v Speaker 2>a believer. I'm thinking, boy, this is a team that

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<v Speaker 2>could maybe surprise win seven or eight games. They did

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<v Speaker 2>far more than that. It also matters that Adam Peters

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<v Speaker 2>is making picks and signing for agents, that Dan Quinn

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<v Speaker 2>as the head coach. He did a tremendous job this year.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see if Cliff Kingsbury stays, but it looks like

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna you know, there's a decent chance he remains

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<v Speaker 2>as well. And you could just take this thing pretty far.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, they said the same thing about Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Burrow a few years ago and other young quarterbacks who've

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<v Speaker 2>had those those terrific moments early in their career. There

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<v Speaker 2>is no guarantee. As you pointed out.

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<v Speaker 1>I almost think the coolest thing about this story, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little different than teams that weren't expected to

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<v Speaker 1>do a much and then really surpass that expectation. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the coolest part about this is Washington not only

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<v Speaker 1>was not expected to do well, but they were sort

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<v Speaker 1>of left aside, right like for a couple of seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>we just said, hey, like do you really want to

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<v Speaker 1>be on that team? And now all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>I think guys are going to want to play with

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<v Speaker 1>Jaden Daniels. I think guys on the defensive side are

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<v Speaker 1>going to want to play for Dan Cole. We already

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<v Speaker 1>saw that. Bobby Wagner's a perfect example of that. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're going to get better, and I think all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden the Commanders are an attractive team for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of free agents potentially in the NFL. I

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<v Speaker 1>know we've sort of hinted at the NFL Draft with

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<v Speaker 1>you being at the Senior Bowl and me at the

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<v Speaker 1>East West Shrine game. Those games, by the way, on

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<v Speaker 1>NFL Network this week. Cannot wait for the matchups. But

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<v Speaker 1>there were some coaching news and how some of those

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<v Speaker 1>hires are going to affect what we see next season.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll examine that coming up next on Power Rankings. We'll

0:18:01.063 --> 0:18:04.023
<v Speaker 1>back here on power rankings. Always nice to see some

0:18:04.063 --> 0:18:07.223
<v Speaker 1>coaches get opportunities, and there's been so much made it

0:18:07.223 --> 0:18:10.663
<v Speaker 1>a been Johnson, Leam Cohen. We saw Brian Schottenheimer on

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<v Speaker 1>Monday get his the announcement from the Dallas Cowboys. But

0:18:15.263 --> 0:18:17.223
<v Speaker 1>when the Jets announced Aaron Glenn, there was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of excitement on social media from former Jets players, and

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<v Speaker 1>after seeing what Glenn had to say when he was introduced,

0:18:22.823 --> 0:18:24.623
<v Speaker 1>you can understand why to.

0:18:24.663 --> 0:18:28.463
<v Speaker 2>Any players that's here, now, put your seatbelts on and

0:18:28.463 --> 0:18:31.383
<v Speaker 2>get ready for the ride. Put your seatbelts on and

0:18:31.383 --> 0:18:33.423
<v Speaker 2>get ready for the ride. Listen. There are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be some challenges, but what challenges becomes opportunity gets opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's what I do know. We're the freaking New

0:18:41.623 --> 0:18:47.703
<v Speaker 2>York Jets, so we're built for the CAUH.

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<v Speaker 1>Get fired up. I hear something like that from Mary Glyn.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to go and play for this dude. How

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<v Speaker 1>can this guy change a culture of losing very quickly?

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<v Speaker 1>And much like we saw what Dan Campbell do with

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<v Speaker 1>the Lions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and obviously with Campbell, you know there was there

0:19:04.783 --> 0:19:07.623
<v Speaker 2>a stretch there where it was a slog, right, It

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<v Speaker 2>took really a year and a half before you start

0:19:09.783 --> 0:19:13.903
<v Speaker 2>to see any kind of tangible improvement. But it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>about establishing belief within your own locker room, right, making

0:19:16.943 --> 0:19:18.903
<v Speaker 2>sure you have a core of guys. You know, the

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<v Speaker 2>ones who were there at the beginning of the Campbell

0:19:21.303 --> 0:19:24.263
<v Speaker 2>Aira and Detroit, you know, the handful who were still

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<v Speaker 2>there at the end. Those are the ones who end

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<v Speaker 2>up being their your leaders. And so you know, look,

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<v Speaker 2>they have a player in Sauce Gardner's who's a tremendous talent,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have his best year. They'd need him get back

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<v Speaker 2>to where he was in his two to twenty twenty

0:19:36.023 --> 0:19:38.903
<v Speaker 2>three form. Aaron Glenn's probably the man for that. They've

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<v Speaker 2>got to find a quarterback. There is a laundry list

0:19:41.223 --> 0:19:43.583
<v Speaker 2>of things they need to do. So you talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the personnel and whatnot. I mean, we have some boxes

0:19:47.023 --> 0:19:50.143
<v Speaker 2>to check off here, but it's about identifying the players

0:19:50.223 --> 0:19:52.503
<v Speaker 2>in your locker room who can help you out. And

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<v Speaker 2>then also, if you want to use Washington as kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the blueprint, if you will make sure you have

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<v Speaker 2>that list of hungry veterans, young players who didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>a great chance in their first go round, bring them

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<v Speaker 2>in for depth. That's really what Adam Peters did. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was an underrated piece of what the commander's

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<v Speaker 2>approach was this offseason. Yeah, Daniels is a huge part

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<v Speaker 2>of it. So if they can get something close to

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<v Speaker 2>Jane Daniels, that would be a great start. But it

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<v Speaker 2>also has to do with all those other complimentary pieces

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<v Speaker 2>they bring in. And the Jets are gonna have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of new faces this year, there's no doubt about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's sort of weird to think about what the

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<v Speaker 1>identity of that team was with Robert solid a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago, and I obviously I know he was

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<v Speaker 1>there this season before getting relieved of his duties, but

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<v Speaker 1>defense to then offense. I got to think it might

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<v Speaker 1>with and go back to the defensive side. But clearly

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<v Speaker 1>a culture change there. They're going to have some questions

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<v Speaker 1>around QB one and who that guy is going to be,

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<v Speaker 1>but speaking culture changes and also questions z that quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>spot Pete Carroll, the guy in Vegas, let's take a listen.

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<v Speaker 3>Took us a few years to get to the very

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<v Speaker 3>top of the last couple programs. I was with, we're

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<v Speaker 3>starting right now, going forward immediately. We're not. We don't

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<v Speaker 3>have some time and we got to make it five

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<v Speaker 3>or six years down the road. That's not what we're thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to start right now to go after it

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<v Speaker 3>and build his team as quickly as we can. As

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<v Speaker 3>Johnson saw Max back there, Max send the message, man,

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<v Speaker 3>we're coming after you. We're gonna come find you guys

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<v Speaker 3>and get this thing rolling as soon as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Max seems to find everyone who happens to be a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>When he's out on the football field, He's always in

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<v Speaker 1>go mode. When I heard the news, I was a

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<v Speaker 1>little surprised, and then the more I thought about it,

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<v Speaker 1>the more I was like, I actually really like this

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<v Speaker 1>fit for the Raiders, do you Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it brings professionality, you know, professionalism to the

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<v Speaker 2>operation here, right, And the Raiders have obviously been a

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<v Speaker 2>you know, off the tracks and haven't really found their

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<v Speaker 2>groove and haven't had any kind of consistency. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>fascinating that Tom Brady seemingly has an increasing sort of

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<v Speaker 2>imprint on this team and a voice in the front

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<v Speaker 2>office and is obviously pulling a lot of strings behind

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<v Speaker 2>the scenes. So you know the fact that he would

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<v Speaker 2>he would would recommend Carol, I'm sure as part of

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<v Speaker 2>the deal. And you know knows how tough is win

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<v Speaker 2>up against him in a classic Super Bowl of your

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<v Speaker 2>and we know how that one ended, obviously Brady on top.

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<v Speaker 2>But now he's bringing on Carol, and I think that

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<v Speaker 2>the plan will be, Hey, have somebody you're developing as

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<v Speaker 2>your young lieutenant, the guy who's going to eventually replace you.

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<v Speaker 2>But Pete has the energy of a guy fifteen twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years younger than he is. He's an incredible man who

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<v Speaker 2>probably doesn't sleep that much, is always dreaming and thinking football.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you have a guy like Max Crosberry already

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<v Speaker 2>there a tone center. Yes, I know Max has only

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<v Speaker 2>been able to do so much. But I think Pete

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<v Speaker 2>and him together, you know, that's sort of a match

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<v Speaker 2>made in heaven. Again, like the Jets still need a quarterback,

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<v Speaker 2>still have a ton of issues to sort out, offensive

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<v Speaker 2>line whatnot. Even the defense has plenty of holes and

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<v Speaker 2>Pete's gonna want to get on that part too. But

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to see where this goes. I know

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<v Speaker 2>we get excited about the young coordinators, but what about

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<v Speaker 2>the guys who are going to end up in Canton

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<v Speaker 2>and the ones who are going to be the most

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<v Speaker 2>celebrated coaches that are generation I'd like that guy on

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<v Speaker 2>my sideline, no question.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're right, that energy and that vibe, the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of preaching competition all the time, that's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>important on those sidelines. I was texting with Steve which

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<v Speaker 1>about this because we were both saying how much we

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<v Speaker 1>liked it, and then I said, hey, it almost doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter if it's Pete Carroll or Bill Belichick or insert

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<v Speaker 1>any other name of any other coach. If they don't

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<v Speaker 1>figure out QB one, there's going to be a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's Russ Through all Gino's I know Russ has

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<v Speaker 1>been sort of linked there because of his contract and

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<v Speaker 1>his time in relationship with Pete Carroll. But they got

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<v Speaker 1>to figure that out. They try to figure it out

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<v Speaker 1>in the draft. They drafted brock Bauers instead because they

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get that quarterback. Maybe this year in the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's a guy that I see at the East

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<v Speaker 1>West Shrine Bowl. Maybe it's a guy that you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to see at the Senior Bowl. But nonetheless, some major

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<v Speaker 1>decisions for Pete Carroll and that front office. Needless to say,

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<v Speaker 1>we get to do a Super Bowl preview next week

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<v Speaker 1>on Power Rankings, Eric, you're the best man. Enjoy watching

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<v Speaker 1>some of these college kids, I know I will, and

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to doing it again next week