1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stupidity, home of the greatest media mind ever 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: to walk the planet. Okay, sure, here's the deal. 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: He's a true icon in every sense of the word. 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: He's loved and feared more than any being to Grace's planet. 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: There's a bad with a voice that sounds like very 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: white and begot say hey, let do it, baby, God 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: himself would pay thirty nine ninety nine for a cameo. 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: Fact of the matter is you are about to embark 9 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: on a transcendent experience that can only be described as 10 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: psychological nudity. This iss and this is stupidity. 11 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: Here we go jump Holy Welcome into another episode of Stupotody, 12 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: the biggest podcast asked in the world. Thanks to you, 13 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: please subscribe, rate review, unsubscribe, resubscribe, rate re review. By 14 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: doing that, you have made us the biggest podcast in 15 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: the world. We appreciate it bigger than Oprah. Now do 16 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: it again. Do it for Rachel, Do it for my daughter, 17 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: who this past weekend became a national champion because her 18 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 2: Northwestern women's lacrosse team beat Boston College to just beat him, 19 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: They beat him down to win Northwestern's eighth national championship. Yes, 20 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: I will use my daughter's name, her story for you 21 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 2: to subscribe, rate review, because my shame knows no boundaries. 22 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: We're gonna hear from her coach, Kelly Amante Hiller, who 23 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: is the greatest coaching team sports. You may never heard 24 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: of her, you're about to hear from her, but she 25 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: has won eight count of eight national championships. That is 26 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: more than coach k That is more than Nick Saban, 27 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: that is more Super Bowls than Bill Belichick. She is 28 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: a fantastic coach and a fantastic person. To be there 29 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: this past weekend and to watch what that team achieved, 30 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: what Kelly achieved, and to see my daughter become a 31 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: national champion. To be able to sit there and experience 32 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: that with my wife, with my other daughter, Emma, with 33 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: my father, with my aunt, with my best friend, it 34 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 2: was such a great moment. And for those of you 35 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: who have followed our show over the many many years 36 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 2: we've been doing it, you know that me coaching Rachel 37 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: and Rachel's lacrosse career has been a big threat throughout 38 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: the show since she picked up a stick like ten 39 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 2: to eleven years ago. And so I think you guys 40 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: will really get a kick out of what you're about 41 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: to hear unless Billy blows it. But for me sitting there, 42 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: knowing the hard work, watching that whole thing unfold, knowing 43 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: the hard work that went into reaching the highest level 44 00:02:59,919 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: of her sport, because as you know, I coached her team, 45 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: so I had a front row seat to witness it all. 46 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: And it all washed over me. As the clock counted 47 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: down in Carry, North Carolina. It just brought back all 48 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: the memories, all the tournaments, all the travel, hearing the 49 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: ball pound against the outside wall of our house at 50 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 2: six am, me walking outside telling her a quiet down 51 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: because Dad needed to sleep, Me taking here to her 52 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: first Final Four in Philadelphia, and for her to say 53 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: to me right then and there, Dad, I want to 54 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: come back. I'm going to come back. I'm going to 55 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: come back and play in this thing. And then to 56 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: see her actually play in the thing was amazing. It 57 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: was amazing. It was a moment, a weekend memories that 58 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: me and my family will never forget. I told Rachel 59 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: before the game on Sunday, the National Championship Game, that 60 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: if you figure there are thirty to forty kids on 61 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: each team BC in Northwestern, that means there are only 62 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: seventy to eighty girls, still standing that the rest of 63 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: the lacrosse world was sitting at home watching them, and 64 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: she felt the moment she understood it was really cool. 65 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: And of course, as a dad, you want your daughter 66 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: to play, but she's a freshman. Rachel chose the Alabama 67 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: of Lacrosse programs, and so she knew with open eyes 68 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 2: going into it that there was going to be a 69 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: waiting period. She got three or four minutes to the 70 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 2: national semi final game, which was exactly three or four 71 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: minutes more than I thought she would get, and we 72 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: were super happy about that. But Rachel chose the hard 73 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 2: path because life has some adversity, and so she went 74 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: into it knowing she wouldn't play that much this year, 75 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: that her time is coming, that she'll get a lot 76 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: more time sophomore, junior, senior year, and she was okay 77 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: with that because three years playing at this school, two 78 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,119 Speaker 2: years playing at this school is better than four years 79 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 2: playing anywhere else. It really is when you have a 80 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: chance to go to the final four and win a 81 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: Natty every single year. But that's not what this weekend 82 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 2: was about. This weekend was about seeing your daughter truly happy, 83 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: truly accepted and seeing your child's dreamed come true. And 84 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 2: I hope every parent gets to experience, but we just 85 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: got to experience because it's pretty damn hard to beat. 86 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: And the reason we had that experience, the reason Rachel 87 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: had that experience, is because of the person you're about 88 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 2: to hear from, Kelly Amonte Hiller, who won her eighth 89 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: national championship. She's the head coach of the Northwestern women's 90 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: lacrosse team. She is going to join us. I told Billy, 91 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 2: and I am skeptical about this, and I am terrified 92 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: that Billy could ask any three questions he wants at 93 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: the end of this interview. Billy wanted to fire her 94 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: earlier this week for not playing my daughter. I don't 95 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: know what I'm doing. I'm terrified again. This lady is 96 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: in charge of my daughter. This coach, this person, this 97 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: wonderful human being, is in charge of my daughter for 98 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 2: the next three years. But I made a promise to Billy. 99 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to stick to it. Billy will get the 100 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: final three questions in and hopefully Rachel, we'll still have 101 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: a scholarship at Northwestern when we're done. But here it 102 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: is Kelly Amonte Hiller, who won her eighth national championship 103 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: this past weekend, the head coach of the Northwestern woman's 104 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: lacrosse program. You're going to enjoy this. On Sunday, she 105 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: won her eighth that is right, eighth national championship as 106 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,559 Speaker 2: the head coach of the Northwestern women's lacrosse team. Kelly 107 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: Amante Hiller joins us. Right now, let's start right there. 108 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: You won your eighth on Sunday. So what's the last 109 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: three to four days. What's the last seventy two hours 110 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 2: been like for you? 111 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: It's it's been awesome. Honestly, I'm just so happy for 112 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 3: this team. I'm happy for all the lums that really 113 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 3: contributed to this but maybe weren't necessarily still on the team, 114 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: and the coaches and administrators. You know, it was a 115 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: long journey back to this championship. When it feels good 116 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: to just kind of take a breath and and you know, 117 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: just reflect and enjoy it because this is something really 118 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: special that I know is it doesn't happen too often. 119 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: It was a very special weekend for anyone that was 120 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: involved that. Thank you for providing me, as a parent 121 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: of one of your players, with moments that I'll remember forever. 122 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 2: But Kelly, you mentioned like you waited eleven years for this, 123 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: So if you don't mind, like put us there as 124 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: the clock is winding down. You know, you have won 125 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: your eighth national championship, but first at eleven years, and 126 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 2: you've been waiting for a while, Like, what's going through 127 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: your mind towards the end of the game. 128 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: There, Well, I think, you know, honestly, last year we 129 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: kind of felt like we had it and we let 130 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: our foot off the gas pedal in the last ten 131 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 3: minutes of the game and ended up losing in the 132 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 3: semi final. And I think that, honestly, we were just 133 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: like so laser focused on just not letting up because 134 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: we didn't want that to happen. And even in the 135 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: waiting moments of the game when it was pretty secure, 136 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 3: it still never felt secure. So I just was I 137 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: was really in awe of all the people that came 138 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 3: to support us, and you know, just really I knew 139 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 3: what it was like to win a championship because of 140 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: all the ones before. But I really just try to 141 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: stay calm and take every second of it in and 142 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 3: just watch watch my student athletes celebrate together, watch them 143 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: go embrace their their families, you know, all the sacrifice, 144 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 3: all the hard work that goes into something like this, 145 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: and oftentimes it doesn't happen, and you still sacrifice to 146 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 3: actually have it happen is pretty special. So just really 147 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 3: really enjoyed that. 148 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: Moment, Kelly, with time to reflect, Like, when you look back, 149 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: why do you think you had a little bit of 150 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: a dip there? And most colleges, most programs would love 151 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 2: to have your dip, but you set the bar so high. 152 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: So when you look back to the last eleven years, 153 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: why do you think that you had a little dip 154 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 2: And why do you think it took you solf on 155 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: to accomplish what you did on Sunday. 156 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 3: Honestly, I think that when I came to Northwestern, you know, 157 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 3: I came off winning championships as a player, so that 158 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 3: was kind of my expectation. It was like, yeah, I 159 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: was young, almost naive to a fault, and I just said, 160 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 3: we're doing this, you know, and then we actually went 161 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 3: out did it, and then we kept doing it and 162 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 3: it was really a cool thing. But that became the expectation, 163 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 3: and you know, there was almost like an entitlement to winning. 164 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: And I think even even the kids in the program 165 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 3: had this entitlement to winning, and and that isn't necessarily 166 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: a good thing. The fans have an entitlement to us winning. 167 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 3: They just expect it. And it's just so hard to 168 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: be successful. And I think that, like I was putting 169 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: so much effort in and when we did it, when 170 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: then you lose a little bit of that confidence, a 171 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 3: little bit of your edge. And I was like, all right, well, 172 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 3: the thing that I know is work hard, so I'm 173 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: just going to work harder. And I think it it 174 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 3: the byproduct of that was almost like putting more pressure 175 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 3: on the program, and we started to do not as well. 176 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously still very successful, but you know, then 177 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 3: we weren't making the final four, and that was devastating. 178 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 3: And I honestly got to a point, you know, maybe 179 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: four years after the first time we lost, where I 180 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 3: was just like, oh my gosh, you know, I got 181 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 3: to hit the reset button because one, this isn't fun anymore, 182 00:11:54,120 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 3: and two I'm not doing anything that actually got me here, 183 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 3: and so I just hit the reset button. I brought 184 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 3: my staff in obviously, you know, my husband is a 185 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 3: big part of my staff, and you know, I really 186 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: had a heart to heart with him, and then the 187 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 3: others on my staff, and I just said that, like, 188 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 3: we gotta we gotta let go of all any and 189 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: all expectations on scoreboard winning results, Like we can't be 190 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 3: about that at all. We can't sell that in recruiting, 191 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 3: we can't we can't be about that. We need to 192 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 3: bring people in. I think when you win, a lot 193 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 3: of times people come and they want to get on 194 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 3: the wind train, and you know, it's just not that easy. 195 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: And and we had to make it very clear to 196 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 3: people that, you know, we want them to come in 197 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 3: and be about what we're about and have that same 198 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 3: value system and and really build back the belief because 199 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 3: that's what it's what I did in the beginning. It 200 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 3: wasn't about the score but it was just about building people, 201 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 3: getting them to believe in themselves, getting them to believe 202 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 3: in each other. And you know, then I got a 203 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 3: little spark and it started to become a little bit 204 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 3: more fun. And then it was like, Okay, I got 205 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: one kid to believe in me, all right, I'm gonna 206 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: try for two now. And it just started to the spiral. 207 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: And it wasn't all good, you know, and it wasn't quick. 208 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 3: But I think this particular team kicked it over the edge. 209 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 3: This team, this parent group. You know, they just believed, 210 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 3: they believed in us as a staff. And you know 211 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 3: when you feel that, it's you feel like you can 212 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 3: do anything. And then and then the kids start believing, 213 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 3: and then everybody feels like they can achieve anything. And 214 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 3: you know, I just said to the book them on 215 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 3: the bus ride home, I was like, I hope you 216 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 3: take this lesson with you forever. That like, when you 217 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 3: pour into something and you really really truly believe that 218 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 3: eventually you can do it, you can get it. And 219 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 3: it's not going to be easy. It might be rocky, 220 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 3: and you might want to quit at one point, but 221 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: you get yourself over that top and it's pretty special. 222 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 4: Coach in the down years, was your husband Scott ever 223 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 4: on the hot seat? Like, because it's like a situation 224 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 4: where we need to change things up a little and 225 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 4: it's him or me. 226 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: So I told you three questions need to make a change. 227 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 5: Scott's got to get out of here. 228 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 3: Okay, it's not just the down years that he's on 229 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 3: the hot seat. He's on the hot seat every damn day. 230 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's a fair question by Billy, like how 231 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: much like, if we're gonna pie chart this thing, Kelly, 232 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: how much percentage do we give to Scott. I mean, 233 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: let's be honest, come on. 234 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: You know, Scott and I are very different. We're very 235 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 3: different people, and you know, I do think it. It 236 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 3: sometimes is hard because I have a certain vision and 237 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: and maybe he doesn't, like, you know, connect with that vision. 238 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 3: But most of the time it's not intentional. I think 239 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 3: that for him, he really defers to me on the 240 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: mindset stuff. He knows that I'm really passionate about it, 241 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 3: I'm really good at it. And he loves the tactical piece. 242 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 3: He loves to be a technician, and and he's really 243 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 3: good at connecting with the student athletes. He were kind 244 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: of like Yin and Yang together, and so, you know, 245 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 3: I think it required a lot of strong communications. There 246 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 3: definitely was, you know, moments where I pushed, and you know, 247 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 3: he's really good at being patient and kind of understanding 248 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 3: and also just being respectful of me being a strong 249 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 3: female leader. He never wants to step on my toes 250 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 3: in that area. He wants to embrace, like what I 251 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 3: want to do, and he finds a great way to 252 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 3: kind of get his opinions across as well. So yeah, 253 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 3: I do think there was moments that it was tough 254 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: during that stretch where we weren't going to but I 255 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 3: think that was also part of the reset, is that 256 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 3: when we reset, we really made a pack, like we're 257 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 3: going to do this together. We got to trust each 258 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 3: other and you know, we gotta we gotta believe in 259 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 3: each other. And so I think it it it was 260 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: a building process as well, but I think it it 261 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: really came to fruition this year as well. 262 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: I'm teasing I love him. He deserves a lot of 263 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: the credit. I know that, and you deserve more. So 264 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: we're clear. Okay, I'm hesitant to this, Billy, I want 265 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: you to understand. Okay, the person that you are speaking to, 266 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: because I'm hesitant to let you ask another question. Go. 267 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: But the person that I am speaking to, right, you're 268 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: just realizing how great she is. 269 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 4: Well, no, I mean you have more national championship championships 270 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 4: that Nick Saban. I feel like you should see the 271 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 4: title of coach k because he only has five national championships. 272 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 2: So I love that. 273 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, like I know who I'm talking to. I have 274 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 4: a question and it's a little more personal and obviously 275 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 4: we can avoid if you want. But like, does that 276 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 4: is it hard to have like a spouse on your 277 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 4: coaching staff, Like how does that work at home? Like 278 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 4: does that change the dynamic at all? Or like if 279 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 4: there's like a question the boss, that's how it works. 280 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 3: Well. 281 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 5: No, Like if there's like a thing where it's like 282 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 5: what are we going to eat for dinner? 283 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 4: It's just like, look, I've made enough decisions during the day, Scott, 284 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 4: you figure it out. 285 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 5: I don't want to make any more decisions today, you know, 286 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 5: I do. 287 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 3: I do think it's a little hard. I think that 288 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 3: you know, we have to kind of we have to communicate, well, 289 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: we also have to set boundaries. I think it's hard 290 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 3: because like I'm very different than Scott, Like I'm more 291 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 3: of an introvert, so like I don't want to always 292 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 3: talk about things. And I have gotten to the point 293 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 3: with us coaching together for so long now where you know, 294 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 3: if he starts talking about something and I'm just not 295 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 3: prepared to have that discussion, I just I just say 296 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 3: like no, and he knows to respect that, he will 297 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 3: he will just say yeah, I totally get it. And 298 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 3: I think that like we kind of both can do 299 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 3: that and you know, we have to set boundaries. We 300 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 3: have to set times where you know, lacrosse doesn't it's 301 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 3: not doesn't dominate the conversation. We also have to separate 302 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 3: like the conversations from our kids because we don't want 303 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 3: them to be a part of every conversation that we 304 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 3: have with our program and everything. And you know, our daughter, 305 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 3: our older daughters that are very like impressionable age, so 306 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 3: you know, we have to make sure we're we're good 307 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 3: leaders in that realm too, And honestly, like being parents together, 308 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 3: I think we see some of the lessons from our 309 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 3: own kids and you know, some of the things that 310 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 3: like they go through that maybe like when we didn't 311 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 3: have kids at that age, we didn't understand as well 312 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 3: what parents go through when they send their kids off 313 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 3: to college and and uh, you know, you know, just 314 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 3: the emotional piece of that. So I think that, yeah, 315 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 3: it's all interconnected. I think boundaries are the key to 316 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 3: our success. But just like any relationship, it's not perfect. 317 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 3: And we really have a great level of respect for 318 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 3: each other and care for each other, and I think 319 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: that like that always wins the day. 320 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 2: Kelly, how do you feel about the nickname coach k 321 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: I think it's perfect. 322 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 3: I don't mind it. That's that's that's one of Scotti's 323 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 3: favorite favorite coaches because he coached at U mess right, Oh. 324 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 2: That's right, that is right. Okay, Well tell him there's 325 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: a new coach K in town. Okay, I have to. 326 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 3: I have to confess that at one point I like 327 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 3: to reach out to different coaches just blind lee and 328 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 3: see if Bill they'll contact me back. And I did 329 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 3: reach out to him at one point, tried to get him, 330 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 3: and he didn't contact me back. He wasn't as good 331 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 3: as Belichick. Belichick called me. 332 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 2: Right back, right, Okay, Well, you know, listen, I will 333 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: inform coach K because he will call me back. I 334 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 2: will tell him there's a new coach guy and it's 335 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: not him anymore. Okay, all right, I love that, Billy. 336 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: Keep in mind, Okay, the person you're speaking to is 337 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: in charge of my child for the next three years. Yeah, 338 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 2: tread lightly, Kelly. I want to get a little technical 339 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 2: with you for a second here, because I thought you 340 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 2: made two moves during the season that really really improved 341 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 2: your team. Uh. Sammy White is such a great kid 342 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 2: and a great player, but you kind of waffled between 343 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 2: midfield and D and then you just settled. You realized, hey, 344 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 2: I got a great defenseman here, and you stuck her 345 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 2: on defense full time. That plus moving Carly Mahoney from 346 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: midfield to d H for me, made your defense, which 347 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: already had Kendalyn Birk's there, but it made your defense 348 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 2: the best defense in the country. Is that fair? 349 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's absolutely fair. 350 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: You know. 351 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 3: I think that you know, Sammy had worked really hard 352 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 3: over the summer on her offensive game, and and uh, 353 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 3: you know, we weren't really we're never really sure how 354 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:49,239 Speaker 3: our team will shape up. And you know, with the lefties, uh, 355 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 3: they're they're a really important facet of our offense. And 356 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 3: you know, she's a strong lefty that actually has tremendous 357 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 3: offensive skills as well. But I think that uh, halfway 358 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 3: through that halfway through that Boston College first game in 359 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 3: the regular season in February, uh, you know, we we 360 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 3: ended up moving her two D and I think she 361 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 3: she wanted it. She wanted it in that moment. And 362 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 3: subsequent to that game, we satured, Me and Scott and 363 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 3: her sat down and had a conversation and you know, 364 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 3: just basically discussed that like we felt that for the 365 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 3: better event of a team that that that might be, 366 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 3: you know, the best move for us, and kind of 367 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 3: asked her how she felt about that, because we wanted 368 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 3: her to to buy into that concept, and and she 369 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 3: was all, she was all for it. And then you know, 370 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 3: in addition, I asked Carly mahoney and and uh, same 371 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 3: same type thing, sit down conversation. Hey, you know, we 372 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 3: think that you could really help us, you know, level 373 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 3: up our athleticism on the defensive end, and she was 374 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 3: just like, yeah, absolutely, anything that gets me on the 375 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 3: field on four. So those two moves, You're absolutely right, 376 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 3: were key. And then it was like, Okay, we got 377 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 3: the group, and then they started to gel together, and 378 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 3: then it was like, Okay, we're starting to not just 379 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 3: win games on offense, We're starting to make some games 380 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 3: on the defense. And I think we made tremendous games 381 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 3: the year before on the defensive end too, And I 382 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 3: think adding Blexis and Charlie to our staff as well 383 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: was huge for our defensive end. And you know, Scott 384 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 3: had kind of had the offense role in the year before, 385 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 3: so we really, you know, we really put a lot 386 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 3: of emphasis on the d right from the beginning of 387 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 3: the season in the fall. So those were key. And 388 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 3: I'm glad that you said that because I really feel, 389 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 3: you know, we didn't get a lot of attention defensively, 390 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 3: but I think that that was a big part of 391 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 3: our success. 392 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: Well, they were fantastic. And how about Molly your goalie, Like, 393 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: when you you plucked her out of the transfer portal, 394 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 2: did you think she'd be this good? Because what she 395 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: turned into Kelly was the best goalie in the country 396 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 2: in my opinion. 397 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know, it's kind of funny. I think it 398 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 3: was el Hanson's senior year in high school. I went 399 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 3: to one of her one of her playoff games. Obviously Jane, 400 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 3: her sister, was on the team as well. I wanted 401 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 3: to go and support them and see them play. And 402 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 3: who were they playing? None other than Newberry Port And 403 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 3: in the cage was Mollie. So I saw her and 404 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 3: I was like, Wow, this kid's unbelievable. So I went 405 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 3: and talked to the coaches after the game and she 406 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 3: had already kind of gone down that road with tough 407 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: and was pretty set. So I just always had it. 408 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 3: And then when you know, she got into the portal, 409 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 3: we were like Oh my gosh, this kid is this 410 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 3: kid is? I told Scott, you know, like, this kid's unbelievable. 411 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 3: I've seen her in action and then obviously getting Division 412 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 3: three goal of the year two years in a row. 413 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 3: We felt that she could absolutely make the jump, and 414 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 3: I think it took a little convincing for her to 415 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 3: understand that she was good enough to make this jump. 416 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 3: But once she did, and once she got that confidence, 417 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 3: there was no stopping her and she was at her 418 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 3: best in the biggest moments, which I mean, that's exactly 419 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: what you want. 420 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: No doubt, Uh, you've want to I'll get you out 421 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 2: of here just a second. We appreciate it. You've won eight, 422 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 2: yet this one seemed to be the most satisfying. I 423 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 2: could be wrong and did see your reactions to the 424 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 2: other seven, but this eighth one sure seemed satisfying to you. 425 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: Am I wrong in reading that? Or yeah? 426 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 3: I told a few of my close friends that, like, 427 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 3: this eighth one almost felt like a new first, you know, 428 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 3: the first it's like, and it was a longer road 429 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 3: than the first one because we won our first in 430 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 3: our fourth year as a program, So you know, there 431 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 3: was a lot of patience, a lot of growth, a 432 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 3: lot of transformation. I had to, you know, adjust to 433 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 3: a whole new different style of student athlete, this generation 434 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 3: being you know, completely different than when I first started 435 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 3: coaching and just kind of adapt to that. And so 436 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 3: I was just really proud of all of the work 437 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 3: that myself, my staff, and all the people that have 438 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 3: been involved in the program had put in to kind 439 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 3: of get us to this point. So that's that's really 440 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 3: what made it that special for me, you know, much 441 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 3: much like that first championship. 442 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 2: That we won. 443 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 3: Uh. The only thing that would have made it better 444 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 3: was if my dad was here to see it, but 445 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,479 Speaker 3: I know he was looking down on us. 446 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: Listen, I am wondering here because I said it the 447 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 2: other day. Actually I said it today on our show, 448 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 2: Kelly that Isy Skied Busy Skate is the best lacrosse 449 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: player in the country and I'm not even certain that 450 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: there's a close second. And I'm not just talking about 451 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 2: the women's game. I'm talking about the men's game. She is, like, 452 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: just talk about it. I know she's up for Player 453 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: of the Year, so is Aaron, and they have such 454 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: great chemistry. But just talk about Izzy as a person 455 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 2: and a player, because she just she stands out in 456 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: a way that really no one else does. Kelly. 457 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we obviously have that close game 458 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 3: against Michigan in the first round, and after that, I 459 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 3: think she was just on another level. Her effort, her 460 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 3: mental approach. I think we've worked a lot on that 461 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 3: over the last number of years. Obviously losing her season 462 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 3: so the year before, so her gratitude for the opportunity 463 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 3: she was not going to be denied. The way that 464 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 3: she hustled on every play, It's just so beautiful to watch. 465 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 3: It's like magic. And you know, just just how she moves. 466 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 3: She's she's a big kid, and she moves just so incredibly. 467 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever had someone like that. We've 468 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 3: obviously had some tremendous people in our program, but the 469 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 3: sheer strength and ability to move her body on a dime, 470 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 3: it's pretty special. 471 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a really uh, she's a really special question. 472 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: We'll get to a really special player. We'll get to 473 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: Billy's three questions. I'm nervous about him in a second. 474 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: But but Kelly, I do have a question. I'm nervous 475 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 2: about this one. I went to every single game, only 476 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 2: a handful of parents can claim that even the dreadful 477 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 2: Marquete game. Kelly, Okay, I know you are so cold. 478 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 3: That one was freezing, and so I just was like 479 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 3: our indoor facility. 480 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: There's nothing like your indoor facility. It's the Ritz Carlon 481 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 2: of indoor facility. But I did go to the marquet 482 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: game and there was like five of us there, and 483 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 2: I feel like those five parents. Perhaps this is what 484 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 2: I'm asking. I'll be direct. Do you want my ring size? 485 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 2: Should I send it to you? What do you think? God? 486 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 3: Oh my god, absolutely send it over. Oh my god, 487 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 3: you earned it, you weren't it? John? 488 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you are too funny. 489 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 5: Does he annoy you with stuff like that all the 490 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 5: time one of your questions? 491 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 3: No, you know, honestly, he goes through my husband, so 492 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 3: he annoys him. 493 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: Wait, Billy, you have two more questions now. But Kelly, 494 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 2: what I love because you love to promote the sport. 495 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 2: This sport means so much to you. Women's sports in 496 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: general means so much to you. What I love about 497 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 2: is he skat and her story? Is it sent such 498 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 2: a great message about your program and the way you recruit. 499 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 2: It sends a great message to other kids. Hey, you 500 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 2: don't have to be from Maryland, you don't have to 501 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 2: be from Long Island. You could grow up in the 502 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 2: middle of Michigan and become the best lacrosse player in 503 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 2: the world. And I think that is such a strong 504 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 2: message to send to the rest of the country. 505 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, what a great family. I mean, they're just unbelievable. 506 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 3: I can't remember. She came on her visit. After we 507 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 3: talked after a camp that she came to and her parents, 508 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 3: both her parents were there. We sat down, we left, 509 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 3: have talked for forty five minutes to an hour, and 510 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 3: at the end of it, they were like, oh, we 511 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 3: got to go get the kids in the car. 512 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 2: That's great. 513 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 3: It was just so tremendous. There are just an amazing group. 514 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 3: They've got two boys, two other boys that are ones 515 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 3: that at Penn and the other ones on his way 516 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 3: to play college across to like, just an honestly great family. 517 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 3: And that's that's what makes any special is that she 518 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 3: isn't just an athlete. She's she's an absolute competitor, great person, 519 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 3: and you know, she's so humble, she doesn't even want 520 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 3: the limelight. She's just she's just so awesome. 521 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 2: She's fantastic. All right, Billy, she's very busy. Okay, she 522 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 2: has places to go. 523 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 3: I'm good. 524 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: You have two more questions, Billy. I mean I've asked 525 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 2: you already as two, I've said three, and now you're 526 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: about to go in for three and four. 527 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 4: So well, I'm just curious kind of how John behaves 528 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 4: at these games because we've been told for years of 529 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 4: tales of him as a coach getting ejected from games 530 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 4: when he was coaching Rachel's team. So as a fan, 531 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 4: as a parent, is he on better behavior or do 532 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 4: you ever kind of look back and tell them to 533 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 4: pipe down. 534 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 3: I'm not less totally zeroed in on him, but I've 535 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 3: never heard anything bad about him. I think that as 536 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 3: a coach, when you are a coach, you actually have 537 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 3: more respect for other coaches and you know just the 538 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 3: process and you know how hard it is. And so 539 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 3: I think that John brings that to our program. He 540 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 3: has coached. He understands some of the challenges, he knows 541 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 3: what how to support, and he really, he really honestly 542 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 3: does an amazing job at that. 543 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 2: Oh thank you, all right, Bill, you have one more. 544 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 4: Well, this isn't so much of a question, it's more 545 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 4: of an apology Coach K. Because I was watching the 546 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 4: National Championship on ESPN and I was texting with John 547 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 4: at the time, and you know, I consider Rachel a 548 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 4: little sister I've never met before. And I was kind 549 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 4: of watching the game and you guys were up by 550 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 4: a lot of points, and I thought, you know what, 551 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 4: now's a great time to put Rachel in there, get 552 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 4: her some experience, get her out there, have her play in. 553 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 5: A national team four. Well, you know, I was watching 554 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 5: and I'm like, it's the it's the fourth quarter here, 555 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 5: we were up by ten. 556 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 2: What are we doing? 557 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 5: Let's get Rachel out there, you know what I mean? 558 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 4: And I told Stu Gotts, I told John, I said, 559 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 4: you know what, Like I don't want to say, but 560 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 4: I feel like Coach K should be on the hot seat. 561 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 5: What are we doing here? You know, we got to 562 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 5: put in your daughter, get her some playing time. 563 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 4: These seniors have been around long enough, they're not even 564 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 4: gonna be here next year. Like, let's get some team 565 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 4: morale built up here and get Rachel some playing time. 566 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 2: You know. 567 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 4: So, I guess I'm sorry about wanting you fired, But 568 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 4: is there a question that's just I was gonna be honest. 569 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 3: You you obviously never coached that's supposed to me. 570 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 5: Geez, I had more. I had more fraid of your 571 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 5: team that they weren't gonna blow it than you did. 572 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 5: You kept the starters in there the whole time. 573 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 3: Well, you know we were we were up by about 574 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 3: nine the year before with nine minutes left, and we 575 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 3: blew it. So oh wow, I was we weren't letting 576 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 3: our foot off that gas pedal, And honestly, uh, the 577 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 3: moment was just so so crazy. How solely as you're focused. 578 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 2: And I don't want you to answer this. You don't 579 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 2: need to answer to him. He shouldn't have fired you. 580 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 2: Now I have a hot seat after winning your eighth 581 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 2: national championship. What do you trying to say, Kelly? Is 582 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 2: they care about me. They care about my family. We're 583 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 2: a big family. I think Billy correct me if you're wrong. 584 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 2: You're keeping your eye in the situation. 585 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 5: I'll just watching. 586 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 3: I think I think that your reaction is the typical 587 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 3: reaction of every ordinary parent. And I think that what 588 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 3: made this team special is that all the parents, all 589 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 3: the student athletes, they really embrace their role and they 590 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,439 Speaker 3: understand that they had to give up sometimes a little 591 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 3: bit of self too for the greater goods so that 592 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 3: we could achieve. And you know, honestly like that that 593 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 3: this group was so special because of that. And there 594 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 3: is so much of what you just hit me with, 595 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 3: uh in sports today, and it's truly unfortunate. But being 596 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 3: part of something bigger than you yourself and actually achieving it, 597 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 3: no one can ever take that away from you. And uh, 598 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 3: it's it's really a cool thing. And I hope that 599 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 3: you know, every kid on this team learned that lesson, 600 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 3: and I hope we can continue to teach that lesson 601 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 3: because it's it's a transformative thing and in your life, 602 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 3: you're not always gonna, you know, be that first one 603 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 3: that goes in or have all the attention on you, 604 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 3: and you might need to play the role that no 605 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 3: one talks about, and that's in a very important role. 606 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 3: And what Rachel did and some of the other kids 607 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 3: that you didn't see on that field did for this team, 608 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 3: it was a game changer for us. 609 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're going to ask another one, Billy, I texted 610 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 2: you back when you were texting me at the game. 611 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 2: She's not playing today, nor should Yeah. 612 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 4: Well, I'm protective, as I said, well, no, you mentioned 613 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 4: giving up. But did John mention he's going to give 614 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 4: you guys a generous gift for winning the national championship 615 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 4: your program? 616 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,959 Speaker 3: He did not, but we'll accept that with open arms. 617 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 2: Oh god, Kelly, this has been this has been fantastic. Listen. 618 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 2: The TV ratings were up, the numbers were through the roof. 619 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 2: It's a great time for women's sports. But I watch 620 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 2: you just on the way out here quickly, if you 621 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 2: don't mind, talk about the state of women's lacrosse where 622 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,720 Speaker 2: you want to see it go, your what your vision 623 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 2: for is it moving forward? Your coaching team USA, which 624 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 2: is exciting. You care about this thing more than most, 625 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 2: more than anyone I've met, to be honest with you. 626 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 2: So just talk about it and promote it the way 627 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 2: you want to talk about it and promote it. Yeah. 628 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean I think that the sport is absolutely booming. 629 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 3: It's growing so much from coast to coast, and you know, 630 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 3: you can drive down the street and see lacrosse nets 631 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 3: on front yards and it's it's truly, it's truly awesome. 632 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 3: The women's game is one of the most exciting sports 633 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 3: I think to watch. What great athleticism these kids possess, 634 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 3: you know, with the addition of the shot clock a 635 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 3: number of years ago, it's it's really really fun to watch. 636 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 3: You know, there's so much scoring. You can get up to, 637 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 3: you know, twenty goals in a game. So from a 638 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 3: fan perspective, it's really really an exciting, fast athletic game. 639 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 3: And I really hope that, you know, the the TV 640 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 3: networks will continue to push the coverage. I think we're 641 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 3: still behind softball at some some level in terms of 642 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 3: just the share amount of coverage, but I hope that, 643 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 3: you know, we can continue to push it forward because 644 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,760 Speaker 3: it is a really really special sport and most people 645 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 3: that that are exposed to it never go back. They 646 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 3: they they they become loyal followers of the sport, and 647 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 3: we've transformed a lot of people here in the Illinois area. 648 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 3: But I hope that that continues to go and where 649 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 3: my involvement in the USA program, like my vision is 650 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 3: just hopefully I can help it grow and potentially help 651 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 3: it get into the Olympics at some point. I think 652 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 3: that would be amazing for our sport from an international perspective, 653 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 3: but USA is the leaders in terms of just how 654 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 3: much involvement we have in the game right. 655 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 2: Now, all right, Kelly, I am. I'm so happy for you. 656 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 2: I'm so happy for Scott, your entire family, your entire staff, 657 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 2: and of course that wonderful team that you put together. 658 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 2: I don't care about any of the stuff Billy asked. 659 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 2: All I care about is in a single year, me 660 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 2: and my wife have both seen a more confident kid, 661 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 2: a more mature kid, and a better kid. And you're 662 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 2: the reason for that. And that's all I care about. 663 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 3: I appreciate that. That is a great perspective. And you know, 664 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 3: we thank you and and all the families and and 665 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 3: uh people involved in the program for the level of 666 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 3: support that we receive received. I knew, I knew before 667 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 3: the game we had them when when uh the crowd 668 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 3: roared uh double double the level of of what our 669 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 3: opponent was doing. So it's pretty exciting. 670 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 2: Great, great bunch of parents, and you're a great coach 671 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 2: and a great parent yourself. Kelly, thank you so much. 672 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 2: Congratulations eight national championships. There's a new coach guy in 673 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 2: town and it's not Mike Shuzewski. Okay, thank you, Kelly, 674 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 2: thank you so much. 675 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 3: Take cokat