WEBVTT - S1 Bonus: Case Update - Arrest Made

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<v Speaker 1>School of Humans. Hello. Oh my god, dude, I'm digging

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<v Speaker 1>out my emergency pack of cigarettes right now. Oh jeez,

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<v Speaker 1>I am like on the edge of my seat, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is going on. I'm like I was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>go to tennis today. I'm walking around just like pacing

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<v Speaker 1>like a caged animal. Hey, guys, I know that we're

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of season three, but as many of

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<v Speaker 1>you may have already heard, after sixteen years, there has

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<v Speaker 1>finally been an arrest in connection with the murder of

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<v Speaker 1>Rebecca Gold. That's the case that we covered in season one.

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<v Speaker 1>For those of you who have been following the Hell

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<v Speaker 1>and Gone podcast, you'll remember that it all started in

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<v Speaker 1>a small town in the Ozarks just over two years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I was sitting in Mountain View, Arkansas, in the satellite

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<v Speaker 1>office of the Arkansas State Police investigator, who was at

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<v Speaker 1>that time in charge of Rebecca's case. I looked at

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<v Speaker 1>the shelf and saw the binder with Rebecca's name on it.

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<v Speaker 1>There was literal dust on that case file. Rebecca was

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two years old when she disappeared on September twenty, two,

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and four. A week later, her body was found.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been obsessed with this case for years. My dad

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<v Speaker 1>and sister live in the area, and because my sister

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<v Speaker 1>and Rebecca's sister are close friends, I heard about the

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<v Speaker 1>murder shortly after it happened. Years dragged on, the case

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<v Speaker 1>remained cold, and I never could get past the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that in such a small town, no one was ever convicted.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the case that led me to get my

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<v Speaker 1>PI license and began my true crime obsession and ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>the first season of Hele Gone. We're still waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>the Arkansas State Police to reveal more details, but in

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<v Speaker 1>the meantime, we wanted to share what we know so far.

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<v Speaker 1>On November seventh, twenty twenty, the Arkansas State Police announced

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<v Speaker 1>that forty four year old William Miller was arrested in

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<v Speaker 1>connection to the two thousand and four murder of Rebecca Gould.

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<v Speaker 1>Law enforcement have stated that William or Billy, as he's

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<v Speaker 1>commonly known, was arrested in Lane County, Oregon, after the

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<v Speaker 1>State Police special agent assigned to the case learned that

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<v Speaker 1>he'd returned to his home following an extended stay in

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<v Speaker 1>the Philippines. The Arkansas State Police news release read quote

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<v Speaker 1>a Texas man visiting Izard County in two thousand and four,

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<v Speaker 1>has been arrested and charged with murder first degree in

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<v Speaker 1>connection with the death of Rebecca Christian Gould, whose body

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<v Speaker 1>was discovered sixteen years ago on a hillside off Arkansas

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<v Speaker 1>Highway nine south of Melbourne End quote. So, who is

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Miller? The police announcement regarding the US describes Billy

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<v Speaker 1>as a Texas man visiting Izzard County, which kind of

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<v Speaker 1>makes it sound like he was just passing through town.

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<v Speaker 1>But we quickly discovered that he does have a connection

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<v Speaker 1>to the area. Billy is Casey's cousin. Casey was Rebecca's

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend at the time she went missing, and she was

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<v Speaker 1>staying at his house when she was murdered. His trailer

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<v Speaker 1>in a remote wooded area near Guyon was the crime scene.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had the chance to talk to some of Billy's

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<v Speaker 1>family members and coworkers and learned that around the time

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<v Speaker 1>of Rebecca's murder, he was living in Texas. He had

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<v Speaker 1>a family there and, according to reports, three children, but

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<v Speaker 1>Billy left the country shortly after Rebecca's murder. Several years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>He went to the Philippines, where he met a local woman,

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<v Speaker 1>got married and had a baby. On social media. There

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<v Speaker 1>are posts of him with his children. He appears to

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<v Speaker 1>have been living there ever since. For several years, he

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<v Speaker 1>worked on an offshore oil field platform off the coast

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<v Speaker 1>of Malay in Equatorial Guinea. Some of his coworkers and

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<v Speaker 1>family members have reached out to me. They said they

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<v Speaker 1>were shocked and I can't imagine what they must be

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<v Speaker 1>going through right now. Though some of his former coworkers

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<v Speaker 1>did describe him as odd. For example, he was caught

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<v Speaker 1>with a coworker's phone and, according to my source, was

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<v Speaker 1>allegedly going through their photos. It's the type of behavior

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<v Speaker 1>that can seem a little strange, but nothing that could

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<v Speaker 1>suggest the horror that would follow. We were told by

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<v Speaker 1>a source close to Billy that after COVID hit, the

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<v Speaker 1>borders to the Philippines shut down, so he came home

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<v Speaker 1>to where his mother lives in Cottage Grove, Oregon. He

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<v Speaker 1>is reportedly told co workers that he bought a ranch

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<v Speaker 1>in Oregon and that he wanted to move his wife

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<v Speaker 1>and family from the Philippines there. So maybe he thought

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<v Speaker 1>the case was over for good. When we started working

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<v Speaker 1>on Hell and Gone, our goal was always to try

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<v Speaker 1>to use the podcast as an investigative tool. We wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to help move the case forward in any way that

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<v Speaker 1>we could, and our only goal was to get justice

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<v Speaker 1>for Rebecca. As you know, the Arkansas State Police said

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<v Speaker 1>this was an open investigation, so we had zero access

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<v Speaker 1>to the case file. We had to create our own,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the beginning we had very little to go on.

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<v Speaker 1>Based on the evidence, we developed a working theory that

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<v Speaker 1>the killer was someone with a connection to the house.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, this wasn't just the fact that the killer

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<v Speaker 1>would know where the trailer was. As we discovered in

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<v Speaker 1>season one, this was an extremely remote location. Whoever was

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<v Speaker 1>involved with killing Rebecca knew where the cleaning supplies were

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<v Speaker 1>and felt brave enough, possibly in broad daylight, to stick

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<v Speaker 1>around and clean up the crime scene. But possibly the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest clue to me was the fact that the bloody

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<v Speaker 1>sheets were found in the washing machine. We're waiting to

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<v Speaker 1>see if the police release any more information that could

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<v Speaker 1>explain what Billy's connection to the home could be. Because

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<v Speaker 1>of the timeline, which we explored in depth in season one,

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<v Speaker 1>we also believed that there could have been more than

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<v Speaker 1>one person involved in the cleanup. So if Billy did

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<v Speaker 1>kill Rebecca and or clean up or move her body.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did he do it? No information has been released

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<v Speaker 1>at this time about a potential motive. We know from

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<v Speaker 1>Rebecca's autopsy that she was struck once or possibly twice,

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<v Speaker 1>something that we always believed suggested that someone was in

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<v Speaker 1>a rage and that this murder was deeply personal. Since

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<v Speaker 1>the ASP have made no comment on Billy's connection to

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<v Speaker 1>the murder, We don't even know if Billy and Rebecca

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<v Speaker 1>knew each other, but he may have popped up in

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast and the fifth thatp was of season one.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked to a source who told us that they

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<v Speaker 1>had seen a man with olive skin or a tan

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<v Speaker 1>and black hair around on the weekend before Rebecca disappeared.

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<v Speaker 1>Our source told us that they saw the guy drive

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<v Speaker 1>up to Casey's property with a woman in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy then got out of the vehicle, which the

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<v Speaker 1>source described as a small blue car with Texas license plates,

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<v Speaker 1>and did some weed eating around the property. Our tipster

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<v Speaker 1>told us that Rebecca came out of the house and

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<v Speaker 1>briefly spoke to this unknown man, and that she seemed

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<v Speaker 1>fine and went back inside. We did try to locate

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<v Speaker 1>this person, and the general description did seem to match

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<v Speaker 1>Billy but it also matched several other people who knew Rebecca.

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<v Speaker 1>With nothing more to go on, we hit a dead end.

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<v Speaker 1>But now I wonder could the mystery man at the

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<v Speaker 1>trailer have been Billy. A new investigator has been assigned

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<v Speaker 1>to Rebecca's case, Mike McNeil of the Arkansas State Police.

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<v Speaker 1>Please contact Mike if you have any information about Rebecca's case.

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<v Speaker 1>He can be reached at Mike dot McNeil at ASP

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<v Speaker 1>dot Arkansas dot gov. That's m I k E dot

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<v Speaker 1>mc n e I l L at ASP dot Arkansas

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<v Speaker 1>dot gov. Since season one wrapped, we haven't stopped working

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<v Speaker 1>on this case, and there have been many others helping

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<v Speaker 1>with a fight to get justice for Rebecca, including local

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<v Speaker 1>journalists George Jared, who he worked with in season one

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<v Speaker 1>and who has been following and covering this case since

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<v Speaker 1>day one, and Jennifer Buckoltz, a private investigator who has

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<v Speaker 1>devoted countless hours to solving this case. So what happens next?

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<v Speaker 1>According to a local newspaper, The Baxter Bulletin, Billy is

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<v Speaker 1>fighting extradition to Arkansas. So now Arkansas officials need to

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<v Speaker 1>file a governor's warrant, also known as an extradition warrant

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<v Speaker 1>to facilitate his transfer back to Arkansas. This could take

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<v Speaker 1>some time, according to some estimates, between thirty and sixty days,

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<v Speaker 1>so once again we have to wait to see if

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<v Speaker 1>he eventually stands trial, to see what evidence the ASP have,

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<v Speaker 1>and to see if there will be more arrests. So

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<v Speaker 1>for now, me and the team, along with everyone else

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<v Speaker 1>including George, Jennifer and many other reporters who've worked on

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<v Speaker 1>this case, will continue to search for answers and work

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<v Speaker 1>together to reveal the full story. But until then, enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of season three and revisit season one if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to follow our complete investigation into Rebecca's murder

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<v Speaker 1>from the beginning School of Humans