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Speaker 1: We're here to break it all down. Yeah God, this

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Speaker 1: Brian Nook, former Penn State All American, Rich Hornberger, and

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Speaker 1: FSR betting analyst Jared Smith.

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Speaker 3: Oh, welcome in happy Saturday to you. Eight bowl games today,

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Speaker 3: three NFL games. The ball buffet is in full effect.

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Speaker 3: This is beautiful stuff over here. Good morning to you

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Speaker 3: guys and Jared. Of course, I'm just curious up to

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Speaker 3: this point, we've got four college football games that have

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Speaker 3: been played, right, the first round of the playoffs is

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Speaker 3: has come and gone. Any of the other bowl games,

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Speaker 3: anything that stood out to you the most, that you've

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Speaker 3: enjoyed the most.

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Speaker 4: Rich.

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Speaker 3: I know you were on the call of the Holiday

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Speaker 3: Bowl where Syracuse went crazy and scored over fifty points

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Speaker 3: against the Wazoo team that was basically not a Wazoo

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Speaker 3: team anymore because of opt outs in the portal. What

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Speaker 3: has stood out to you guys the most in Bull

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I'll start there with the Holiday Bowl. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I wasn't on the call this year. Our local station

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Speaker 4: didn't get the rights, so I got to watch the game.

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Speaker 3: I thought you told us you were on the call originally.

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Speaker 4: Originally I was. Yeah, And so, like many things during

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Speaker 4: bowl season, there was an opt out, you know, So

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Speaker 4: it was I mean, legitimately, I'm one of the victims

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Speaker 3: Now I'm kidding you did want to get hurt for countdown.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly right. I had to be here, you know,

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Speaker 4: so I couldn't injured the voice. I still actually probably

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Speaker 4: and having an awesome time. It ended up being a

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Speaker 4: really fun first half. Washington State showed some life, Syracuse

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Speaker 4: a day it was. It was a great bowl environment.

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Speaker 4: But there was this feeling in the second half when

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Speaker 4: the Cougar's kind of got dusted where I was thinking

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Speaker 4: to myself like, yeah, this is a little bit of

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Speaker 4: an example of what's happening across the country right now.

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Speaker 4: You know, if both teams aren't bit by the portal bug,

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Speaker 4: the name, image and likeness Fairry, then all of a

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Speaker 4: second half was a landslide, light interceptions, a lot of

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Speaker 4: it just you know, went bad afterwards. But listen, I

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest. This entire Bowl season has been fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's been electric.

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Speaker 5: And I actually last night, because I knew we were

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Speaker 5: gonna have a high level conversation about this, I went

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Speaker 2: So the average, So there's been.

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Speaker 5: Eighteen bowl games outside of the College Ball Playoff, right

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Speaker 5: twenty two if you count the four CFP games. Let's

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Speaker 4: agree with you. I thought it was a strange decision

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Speaker 4: You I mean, it's it's a bowl game. And I

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Speaker 5: There were some pit you know, super fans and reporters

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Speaker 5: I swear that was the narrative, like six weeks ago

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, but that's kind of how the Bowl game.

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Speaker 3: These games have been awesome.

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Speaker 2: I I really do think that.

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Speaker 5: And I know there's like, oh yeah, the nil and

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Speaker 2: Our entertainment value.

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Speaker 5: We want to watch the best players in these games,

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Speaker 5: but you're giving other people chances. And I think that's

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Speaker 5: this is our shot. What is the M and M song.

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Speaker 5: One shot, one opportunity, and they're going out there and

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Speaker 3: And eight.

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Speaker 5: We have eight Bowl games today, the most in a

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Speaker 2: So we are absolutely stacked today.

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Speaker 5: I think this is like the last real big Bowl

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Speaker 5: and it has been. It's been really fun to watch

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Speaker 5: I don't think there is one anymore.

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Speaker 3: Our trusted technical producer, Chris Purfetts, He's grazing us with

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Speaker 6: I mean not only that, Jared, but we are getting

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Speaker 6: the illustrious pop Tarts Bowl, which has become the pinnacle

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Speaker 6: of Bowl trophy technology.

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Speaker 3: Last year cooking a.

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Speaker 6: Mascot into a pop in to a like human sized

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Speaker 4: That's correct, Like they are.

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Speaker 6: We are seeing kitch never before seen in this country.

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Speaker 6: And that's really what ball season is about, is going

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Speaker 6: to small locals, you know, getting integrated with the community

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what the like the frosted sidelines, It

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Speaker 3: looks like sprinkles. That's a nice touch. That is a

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Speaker 3: nice touch for the Pop Tarts Bowl. I also think

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Speaker 3: the first round of the college football Playoff have really helped.

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Speaker 3: Like normally what you hear is who cares about these

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Speaker 3: it was just like, guys, so old Miss should have

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Speaker 4: You know. I think that's a bigger part of the conversation,

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Speaker 4: Because that's what bowl season has become about. It's just

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and we're kind of in the in the middle

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Speaker 5: Gambling and bowl games are like peanut butter and jelly

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Speaker 5: You know, I think that number closed like eighteen, somewhere

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Speaker 5: this is why we do what we do. Because for example,

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean this is what we have eight

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Speaker 3: So eight Bowl games on tap on this Saturday, and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you absolutely do, because coaches are going to take

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Speaker 4: He takes care of his players in bowl games. You know,

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Speaker 5: Totally agree. I mean, there's no other way of putting it. Besides,

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Speaker 5: the end of the day, it's an individual decision that

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Speaker 5: these kids are making, and I think you have to handicap.

435
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Speaker 5: You have to profile the player, profile the program. Yes,

436
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 5: profile the agent and who he's represented by. But in general,

437
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 5: it's it's case by case. It's situationally dependent. And we're

438
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 5: gonna have two very interesting data points to add to

439
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 5: the list today, how Colorado handles Sanders and Hunter and

440
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 5: how Miami handles can.

441
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Speaker 3: Ward absolutely and I love the prop bets that are

442
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 3: set at BETTMGM because it gives you at least a

443
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Speaker 3: bit of an idea of what we might see today.

444
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 3: For instance, Shadeur Sanders his passing yards prop is that

445
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 3: at three eighteen and a half. Wow, So that tells

446
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 3: you quite a bit. Like imagine if Shaduur played a

447
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 3: half and you're betting the over or better yet, if

448
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 3: you're one of these guys that says, I don't think

449
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 3: he's playing the whole game, I'm gonna hammer the under,

450
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 3: and a lot of people followed that. Bet MGM is

451
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 3: not gonna be dumb enough to expose themselves to that

452
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 3: type of setback. Meanwhile, the passing yardage prop right now

453
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 3: for cam Ward is nonexistent. It is not red right there, right,

454
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 3: And so you got to keep that in mind. If

455
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Speaker 3: you it's like, Okay, if cam Ward only plays a half,

456
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,479
Speaker 3: do you want to be caught with the Miami ticket

457
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 3: minus four and a half with Mario Christobal who's just

458
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 3: trying to recruit you know like that that could be

459
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 3: a rough situation to be in. And uh, maybe it's

460
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Speaker 3: time to pounce on Iowa State after they got just

461
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Speaker 3: rolled rolled by Arizona State and Scataboo. I think he's

462
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 3: still running, but it might be a good by low

463
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 3: spot for the Cyclones. It's something to keep in mind.

464
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's an interesting situation. Miami's had a couple

465
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 4: of opt outs on the offensive line, Iowa State has

466
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 4: had a couple of opt outs on their defensive line.

467
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Speaker 4: But yeah, when you make the comparison and you think

468
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 4: about it, like Beckt has played a very you know,

469
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Speaker 4: mediocre I guess compared to his freshman season to Ward

470
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 4: who's had a phenomenal season. But yeah, by low spot

471
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Speaker 4: for Iowa State, I could buy it because of the

472
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Speaker 4: topsy turvy nature of this of this environment we're in

473
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Speaker 4: bowl season. I mean I literally watched it last night

474
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Speaker 4: in San Diego at the Holiday Bowl. Just teams unloading

475
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 4: their playbook too. Like you have to also throw into

476
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 4: the jumbalaya here that these coaches are like, I mean,

477
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 4: we've got all these plays. It's not like we're gonna

478
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 4: save Like, let's just call whatever's left, and you know,

479
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 4: you'll see some fantastic stuff, you know, fourth down conversions

480
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 4: made on plays that you'll only see once. You know,

481
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four, because that was the only opportunity

482
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 4: they had left to run it, and so why not.

483
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 4: You know, I kind of love the looseness of bowl

484
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 4: season and also with a little bit of the pressure

485
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 4: off with an expanded postseason. Some of these coaches, obviously,

486
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 4: like always in the postseason, in bowl season, they're coaching

487
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 4: for their lives. Many of them are just trying to

488
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 4: make an impact on the recruits that they invited to

489
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 4: the game, the area recruits, or maybe the recruits who

490
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 4: are watching from home. Hey, turn on the Pop Tarts Bowl.

491
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 4: You're gonna see some fireworks offensively that receiver. Look at

492
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 4: this guy number blah blah blah. That's gonna be you

493
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 4: next year if you come out and play for the Hurricanes,

494
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 4: you play for the Cyclones, whatever it may be. You know, boom,

495
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 4: you start to show players who you're trying to you,

496
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 4: you know, you know, waft into your program what you

497
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 4: have to offer them by exposing more of your your playbook.

498
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 4: I kind of love that, I really do, because again,

499
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 4: it makes it so much more variable. And to Jared's

500
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 4: point earlier, this is where you can find an edge,

501
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 4: you know, this is where books can get a little

502
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 4: exposed and you can find yourself a nice little edge,

503
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 4: especially if you're close to one of these teams and

504
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 4: you've been following them all season long.

505
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Speaker 5: Oh, here's the best edge in these games. And we've

506
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 5: talked about it on this show before. We haven't done

507
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 5: it yet this year. Maybe today's day. The best edge

508
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 5: in these games the backup skill position players that get

509
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 5: a chance to start. Their prop numbers are wrong. They're wrong, Yeah,

510
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 5: because they've the books have not you know, had to

511
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 5: price them like starters the whole year, and now all

512
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 5: of a sudden they're getting starter reps because everyone else

513
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 5: is out like those and the UNC backs a great

514
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 5: example today. I forget the starter, who's who who opted out?

515
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 5: He's one of the best running backs mari and Hampton,

516
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 5: thank you the backup UNC running back today. If that guy,

517
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 5: like if UNC plays a normal game script where they're

518
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 5: favored in the game they're supposed to win, it's gonna

519
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 5: be a low scoring game.

520
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 3: They're gonna run the ball.

521
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 5: If UNC does that today and you con can't stop it,

522
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 5: that running back, I think it's like in the mid

523
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 5: eighties today.

524
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Speaker 3: That running back is gonna have a huge day.

525
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is a classic example and We also have

526
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 5: movement right now, Right now, I'm doing a crack right

527
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 5: now live movement in the Miami game.

528
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 3: Guess where the action's moving.

529
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 5: It ain't moving towards Miami, it's moving towards Iowa State.

530
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 3: You could tell you could glean.

531
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Speaker 5: About what is happening behind the scenes between Miami and

532
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Speaker 5: Iowa State. Why the number all of a sudden went

533
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 5: from four and a half to three and a half

534
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 5: in the last five minutes.

535
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 2: You can take a guess why.

536
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, and that having no cam Ward passing prop

537
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 3: bet posted is that's your indicator. Okay, that's telling me

538
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: something right there for sure. And that's crazy too, because

539
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 3: I think it's another reminder. It shouldn't be a lesson

540
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 3: that's just learned. But there are times where sometimes you

541
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: forget the stuff that you learned. Where if you think

542
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 3: about a team, Arkansas is a good example. Arkansas lost

543
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 3: a lot of starting talent a lot, and then last night,

544
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 3: to Jared's point, you have these random skill position guys

545
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: stepping up and all of a sudden, you're seeing like

546
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 3: these long touchdowns against Texas Tech, and you look at

547
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 3: some of the prop bets and you're like, wow, that

548
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: wasn't expected. The reminder is there seems to be a

549
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 3: knee jerk reaction of Team X has lost twenty five

550
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: dudes to opt outs in the portal, Wow fade them. Meanwhile,

551
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 3: it's not an automatic fade because some of these guys

552
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 3: that are waiting in the wings, they're actually pretty good

553
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 3: and they're super hungry because they've been waiting for an

554
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: opportunity like this. So it's not automatically this huge step

555
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 3: back in talent that it's perceived to be.

556
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, listen. All I did my whole life was

557
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 4: play on teams where I was constantly impressed with the

558
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 4: depth of our roster because there are a lot of

559
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 4: players who are gamers, you know, I practice because they're

560
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 4: on the scout team and they're looking at cards and

561
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 4: trying to feign the plays of the opponent that the

562
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 4: team is preparing for that week. You know, either a,

563
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 4: their effort isn't quite as high as it would be

564
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 4: on a game day where you're repping your school or

565
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 4: your the name on the back of your jersey or b.

566
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 4: It's difficult, right, you know, because you're being asked to

567
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 4: do things that are outside of your offensive parameters or

568
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 4: defensive parameters to give a good show team look to

569
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 4: your starting offense or defense. And then on game day,

570
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,479
Speaker 4: when you're actually running your offense or when you're actually

571
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 4: lining up as a defensive lineman against you know, posing

572
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 4: offensive tackles and saying, hey, seaball, get ball, all of

573
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 4: a sudden, special things happen because guess what, all of

574
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 4: those kids who are sitting backing up the stars on

575
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 4: the college roster, they were also their local superstars coming

576
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 4: out of high school ball. Or they were also the

577
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 4: transfer portal picks and selections who came into a program

578
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 4: and got narrowly edged out during the preseason, but continued

579
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 4: working on their skills or getting stronger in the weight room,

580
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 4: or doing all the things their coaches asked them to

581
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 4: do so that when they get their shot, they'll be

582
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 4: ready to play. This happens all the time at the

583
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 4: collegiate level. This happens all the time at the NFL level,

584
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 4: especially at certain positions tight end, running back, receiver. All

585
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 4: of a sudden, like Jared said, these props, I mean,

586
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 4: books have no idea because you're talking about the third

587
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 4: tight end from Iowa State, because you know whatever, Yeah,

588
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,959
Speaker 4: I mean, like if you are a Cyclone fan, you

589
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 4: may have the edge because you're like, well, remember that guy.

590
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 4: He came out of the Iowa High school system and

591
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 4: and he caught for a thousand yards his senior season

592
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 4: and Montclair High, and well, guess what if you got

593
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 4: a couple of dollars, you know, maybe maybe put it

594
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 4: on the Montclair High tight end the stud that you

595
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 4: liked who was a four star recruit on rifles dot com,

596
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 4: Like it's that's where we're at, and that's that's where

597
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 4: ball season can be magical for people who want to

598
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 4: put a little scratch, you know, a couple of fun, fun,

599
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 4: fun coupons on on their favorite tight end. You know,

600
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 4: it's it's an interesting time to be alive and be

601
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 4: a sports fan or sports better because there's so much

602
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 4: more volatility than there ever has been, which I'm sure

603
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 4: you know when or if we speak to Seamus later on,

604
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,239
Speaker 4: he'll speak to bull season. I don't know how he

605
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 4: has hair left if he does, because I'm sure these

606
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 4: guys are pulling their hair out.

607
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: Davon Gallas, here you go. Here's your story.

608
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 5: First game, by the way, it starts at eight Pacific,

609
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 5: Like it's like in ninety minutes wed these ball games start.

610
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 5: Javion Dalls, freshman running back UNC three star recruit at

611
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 5: a shaman a Madonna Prep down in Hollywood. He's a

612
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 5: freshman last year who's playing high school football. He's been

613
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,719
Speaker 5: sitting behind this stud running back for UNC all season.

614
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 5: It's only had sixty two carries all year five yards

615
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,479
Speaker 5: per tote. Well, guess what his prop is today. It's

616
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 5: like eighty six five yards per tote. He's the guy

617
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 5: today if he gets fifteen to twenty carries at five

618
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 5: yards per tote right against Yukon. Yeah, eighty five and

619
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 5: a half yards is a discount. So again, you just

620
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 5: have to find these guys like you just have to

621
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 5: do the work. You gotta roll up your sleeves, you

622
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 5: gotta get into the roster. You gotta look at the second,

623
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 5: the third, the four string skill position guys, and you

624
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 5: got to figure out if there's a narrative or an

625
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 5: angle where one of these guys is gonna step up

626
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 5: today and play way above any number he has put

627
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 5: up at.

628
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: Any point during the regular season. And it happens a lot.

629
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 5: And then you at these star players like the Harold

630
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 5: Fan and the tight end of bowling green who's going

631
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 5: for a record?

632
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 3: Like those are the situations.

633
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 5: It's the sportsbooks literally handing you money the nine and

634
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 5: a half receptions prop on Harold.

635
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 3: Fan and it hit it half.

636
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 5: He had it by halftime, Like there was never a

637
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 5: moment in that game where that bet was losing unless

638
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 5: he got fluke injury at some point, like that was

639
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 5: the only scenario where they were not getting this. Dude

640
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 5: twelve catches in that game. And daveon gals, if Carolina

641
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 5: is running it today over Yukon left, right and center,

642
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 5: who do you think is gonna be getting it? This

643
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 5: freshman had Opallaca, Florida, who's you know, probably a pretty

644
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 5: good player in high school down there in Miami. So

645
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 5: you just have to remove what you saw during the

646
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 5: regular season and put yourself in the minds of these players.

647
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 5: Any what do you think Davion doesn't want to show

648
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 5: off for Bill Belichick, who's no doubt watching this game

649
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Speaker 5: on TV today, you think all those Carolina guys today

650
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Speaker 5: that are on the sidelines that want to have a

651
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Speaker 5: job next year are not going to be going.

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Speaker 3: Full speed for coach Belichick today. You're crazy, By the way,

653
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: funny story with Fannin because I had his over receiving

654
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 3: yards in that bowl game. And I was watching the game,

655
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 3: but I was doing other stuff and I was glancing up.

656
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 3: It was one of those things. So I had the

657
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Speaker 3: game on, but I wasn't glued to the game, and

658
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 3: I would see Fan and he would catch a pass

659
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 3: and he'd maybe gain eight nine yards and I'm like, man,

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00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 3: I don't know that's high. It was like one oh

661
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 3: three and a half was his yardage prop something like that,

662
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 3: and I'm like, a man, I don't know where we are.

663
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 3: And I glanced up and it was like one hundred

664
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Speaker 3: and five yards after the catch, and I'm like, oh

665
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 3: my gosh, we're there already in the first half.

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Speaker 4: He went bl so mad.

667
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Speaker 3: I didn't ladder that, Brian. It was such a missed opportunity.

668
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 3: Seventeen catches for two thirteen two thirteen. That's a tight end.

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Speaker 3: I had the touchdown on top. It was insane. We've

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Speaker 3: got Rich Ornberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith FSR

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Speaker 3: betting analyst. I'm Brian know, by the way, coming up

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Speaker 3: next the parlay platter with a special theme to it. Again,

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Speaker 3: let's get into this. We always love this theme. Tutty

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Speaker 3: time baby, that's right, that is your theme. We'll have

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Speaker 3: a selection each pull it together for a greater payout

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Speaker 3: that comes your way. Next, it is Fox Sports Radios

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Speaker 1: Check this out parlay flatter.

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Speaker 3: Ah, yes, the platter, as the streets called this segment.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: You know, we each have one selection for you. We

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Speaker 3: pull it together for a greater payout. Jared, we start

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Speaker 3: with you.

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Speaker 4: What do you like?

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Speaker 3: Well, you forgot the most important part for you. That's

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Speaker 3: right time, thunny time.

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Speaker 5: I mean, listen, we're gonna our technical producer Chris provets

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Speaker 5: that we've got to come out with some kind of

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Speaker 5: peanut butter jelly time tuddy time songs.

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Speaker 2: Because I've got my own audio.

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Speaker 5: That's my first ever audio drop on any radio show ever.

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Speaker 3: I'm very proud of that moment. It's tuddy tuddy tunny time.

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Speaker 3: It'syudy toundy time.

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Speaker 4: I love it, man, I love it.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 5: Let's go Courtland Sutton. We have three NFL games today.

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00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 5: Usually we don't get three on a Saturday. At three

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Speaker 5: NFL games today Broncos Bengals, huge playoff implications for both teams.

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Speaker 5: I think Courtland Sutton catches a touchdown. It's the highest

706
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 5: total of any NFL game today. I think it's actually

707
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 5: the highest total of the entire weekend in the NFL.

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00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 5: It's up there at fifty nineteen red zone targets this year.

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00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 5: He is the guy in the scoring area for the Broncos,

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00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 5: a forty three percent target share in the red zone.

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Speaker 5: If the Broncos throw one hundred passes in the red zone,

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00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 5: he's be targeted almost fifty percent of the time.

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Speaker 2: It is really impressive stuff. He's one of the big

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Speaker 2: bodies receivers in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: And the Bengals secondary bottom and passing yards allowed excuse me,

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Speaker 5: passing touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Allowed this year.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they're not great in passing yards.

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Speaker 5: Either, so we'll look Portland something plus money on Courtland

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Speaker 5: something today plus one twenty five.

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Speaker 3: I really like that bet.

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Speaker 4: It's been a heated race in the NFC West. You

723
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 4: have the Rams Cardinals coming up later today. Kyn Williams,

724
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 4: he's been kind of the rain maker in the low

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Speaker 4: red zone. In the red zone overall, he's he's stolen

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00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 4: fifteen touchdowns from the rest of his teammates. But Pukaakua

727
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 4: has been a little quiet in the end zone as

728
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Speaker 4: of late. I think it's time. I think he gets in.

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00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 4: Unless the Rams build an early lead, I think they're

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Speaker 4: gonna be chasing points a little bit. Like I said,

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Speaker 4: this has been kind of a race in the West,

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Speaker 4: So give me Pouka Nakua getting in the end zone

733
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 4: at some point during this game one of Stafford's favorite targets.

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Speaker 3: I just thought, Bruce Buffer, when you said it's time,

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Speaker 3: I heard in my head it's yeah, great, really well done.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Lejohonte Wester, the Colorado wide receiver today.

737
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 3: He's got ten touchdown catches on the season, so we

738
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Speaker 3: have decent odds that he gets in the paint. Anyway.

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00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 3: It's at minus one fifteen and then we get the

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Speaker 3: extra cherry on top, where what if Travis Hunter doesn't

741
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Speaker 3: play his normal allotment of plays as a wide receiver

742
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 3: today and it boosts Western's chances to get a touchdown here.

743
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 3: I think that's in play. So even if Travis Hunter

744
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: is there like he normally is as a wide receiver,

745
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 3: we still have a decent shot Wester scores. Our chances

746
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 3: are even better if you know Hunter's on a little

747
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 3: bit of a pitch count. So I'll go le jhonta

748
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 3: Wester for the Buffs to score a touchdown.

749
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you like it a lot.

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00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 5: I like this parlay a lot too. Actually, on hammering

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00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 5: this thing plus seven forty one, I bet mg on.

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00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 4: Ice that's a that's pretty good. That's okay.

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00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, this plus money guys in there that'll do that'll

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00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 5: that'll do it.

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Speaker 4: This Buffalo, This Buffalo a game where I should say

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00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 4: this Colorado Bufflo game. I I don't know what to

757
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 4: expect with Hunter, but I do know this. You could

758
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 4: also grottle how much potential damage a player takes by

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00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 4: not throwing it his way too, you know, so you

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Speaker 4: know if there's any question whether or not Sanders could

761
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 4: get him in trouble with a throw over the middle.

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00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 4: Maybe he goes to a different option. Maybe Western is

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Speaker 4: that option.

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Speaker 5: So I like that be a lot Niceah, And I

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Speaker 5: would not be betting Travis Hunter propts today.

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Speaker 3: I just know I would. I would stay away.

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00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 5: There's other better bets to be made to me in

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Speaker 5: on the board today, and especially in this Colorado game, Wester.

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Speaker 3: Being the guy. It's just only a little unfortunate due

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00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 3: to the Christmas Day NFL doubleheader, we can't add Lamar

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00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 3: Jackson to this three leg parla. You know, totally agree.

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00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 4: It's too bad.

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00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 3: That's a and he scored just salt the wounds, you know,

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00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 3: he scored very nice. I don't think he will be

775
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 3: I mean, you can make the argument it should be,

776
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 3: but I think it's gonna be. Josh Allen, I agree,

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00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: that's a fun combo. We can get into that. Yeah,

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00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: second hour coming up next, we'll get into a bit

779
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 3: of a big game preview double header on the way.

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Speaker 3: What's going on. We are one hour away from kickoff here.

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00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 3: Normally at this time of the show, we're two hours

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00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 3: no no, no, we got ball and one hour from now.

783
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Speaker 3: As Jared said, eight am West Coast start time. Huh,

784
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Speaker 3: let's get after it. I love got some ball during

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00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 3: the show, live updates and all that. It's gonna be fantastic. Listen,

786
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Speaker 3: I'm a little bit torn because I'm a here and

787
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 3: now type of dude, you know, and with eight bowl games,

788
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 3: it's a little bit hard for me to look beyond

789
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 3: the eight games that we have today. But listen, guys,

790
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 3: we're not gonna be together until after the second round

791
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: of the college football playoffs, right, so we got to

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00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: dive into these playoff matchups as well. And what better

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00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 3: way than to talk about your Nitney Lions.

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00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 4: Huh.

795
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 3: Penn State taken on Boise State. I looked it up

796
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 3: the other day. The rushing yardage prop for Ashton Genty

797
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 3: is one thirty five and a half and he needs

798
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty two yards to surpass Barry Sanders

799
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 3: for the most rushing yards in a single college season.

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00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 3: You know, it's wild. I also looked up Barry Sanders

801
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 3: in eighty eight and Ashton genty this season. They have

802
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 3: on the dot the same number of carries three forty four. Like,

803
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe you guys have heard, like, wow,

804
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 3: Barry Sanders, he did it in fewer games. It's the

805
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 3: same number of carries. Yeah, and genty is just one

806
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 3: thirty one behind Barry Sanders, So it's it's a remarkable

807
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 3: year that genty has said. Barry had thirty seven rushing

808
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 3: touchdowns back in eighty eight. Genty has twenty nine, which

809
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 3: is nothing to sneeze at genty. We know he's a

810
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 3: tremendous player. The question is he's going to get his

811
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 3: carries against Penn State. How effective is he going to

812
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 3: be when Penn State is like, that's the guy, that

813
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 3: is the guy, we have to slow down and not

814
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 3: let him beat us.

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Speaker 4: I had the great opportunity and privilege to call a

816
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 4: game that he played in and being on that broadcast,

817
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 4: what it can tell you is you're not going to

818
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 4: stop him. Your only hope is to slow him down.

819
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 4: And what I mean by that is Boise is still

820
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 4: going to possess the ball because they're going to get

821
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 4: first downs, They're going to march the field on you.

822
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 4: He is an unstoppable force. So you gotta find ways

823
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 4: to force turnovers and get them into longer yardage situations

824
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 4: if you want to steal possession from them where they

825
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 4: have to rely on throwing the football where it's difficult

826
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 4: even to defend that because as a play action, I mean, look,

827
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 4: they're not afraid to run it on third and long,

828
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 4: like you've seen throughout the season this year. So you

829
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 4: have to respect the line of scrimmage with a player

830
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 4: as dangerous as gent and in the passing game he's

831
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 4: not all that involved, but when he is, obviously you

832
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 4: get a playmaker of the ball in his hands. He's

833
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 4: a problem. So how do you win a game like that, Well,

834
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 4: you find a way to slow him down enough that

835
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 4: they're not in the end zone constantly, and then maximize

836
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 4: your possessions. But like I said, after watching this guy

837
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 4: live and by the way, at the point when I

838
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 4: got to broadcast that game, he was banged up and

839
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 4: he still nuked the Aztecs when he faced them. It

840
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 4: was it's just he's just that type of player. He

841
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 4: can take over a game himself. When a game plan

842
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 4: comes down to a single player, sometimes it makes life

843
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: a little bit easier. It's like, Okay, as a defensive coordinat,

844
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 4: what's the one thing we can't do well? We can't

845
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 4: allow that guy to beat beat us. So when you're

846
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 4: in the NFL and your opposing defense is one of

847
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 4: the thirty one teams that's gonna face the Ravens. Just

848
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 4: don't let Lamar Jackson beat you. It sounds simple, it's

849
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 4: not right, But it's the same thing going against the

850
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 4: Boise State Broncos. What's the one thing you can't have done?

851
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 4: Have estingenty go off for two hundred yards and four

852
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 4: rushing touchdowns. It's easier said than then, though.

853
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's almost impossible.

854
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 5: And I went back and watched the game against Oregon

855
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 5: and it Boise's game against Oregon, and it's.

856
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 2: Just what can you do?

857
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 5: I mean, you're watching a play and you know he

858
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 5: got one hundred ninety two yards and three touchdowns in

859
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 5: that game.

860
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 2: I mean, this is Oregon we're talking about here.

861
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 5: This is the twelve to zero best team in the country,

862
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 5: undisputed number one. Right now, who's a dog in their

863
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 5: first round game.

864
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 3: We'll get over there for quarter battle. Gay, We'll get

865
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 3: to that in a little bit. Yeah, but but but.

866
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 5: But you watch the tape genty against Oregon, which is

867
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 5: the best data point you're gonna find if you're asking

868
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 5: the question, how will ash.

869
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 3: And gent fair against Penn State's defense.

870
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 5: And what I saw was, so there's eleven guys on

871
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 5: the field, right, last I checked, what there was eleven?

872
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the other.

873
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 5: Ten guys maybe you know, the other six seven guys

874
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 5: blocking for gent are.

875
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 3: Getting whipped, like absolutely whipped, like just.

876
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 5: Getting tossed aside by Oregon defenders, like blocks are being shedded.

877
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 5: And what's Genty doing? Like teflon, He's just bouncing off people.

878
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 5: He's superhuman. It's it's it's unbelievable. There was one play

879
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 5: in particular where literally the entire play got blown up,

880
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 5: like every single block was completely blown up.

881
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: Genty bounces off.

882
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 5: A completely open tackler in the hole and goes for

883
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 5: twenty five. Like my point being, I don't know if

884
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 5: there is a way to just say.

885
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna defend him.

886
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 5: You just have to let him get his Here's what

887
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 5: you can't do, though, You can't allow Maddox Madson to

888
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 5: beat you with the play action because that is what

889
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 5: they want. They want you to get those linebackers all

890
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 5: sucked in. They want to manipulate your eyes and then

891
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,919
Speaker 5: Maddox Madson is gonna hit you with a play action

892
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 5: over the top the quarterback for Boise State. You take

893
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 5: his play action numbers this year, pretty good, ten touchdowns,

894
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 5: one pick without play action. He has sixteen turnover where

895
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 5: he plays this year, fourteen of them are without play action.

896
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 5: If you can get pressure on him and you could

897
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 5: eliminate that play action advantage that Boise State has because

898
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 5: you're so focused on Genty, You're gonna win this football game,

899
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,479
Speaker 5: but Genty's gonna carry.

900
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,439
Speaker 3: It's like jump on his back.

901
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 5: Like what was that scene in the replacements, Like it's

902
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 5: almost impossible to bring this guy down with one tackler.

903
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 2: It really was impressive to watch.

904
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 3: That's one of the things I love most about sports

905
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: is when you know what's coming and you still can't

906
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 3: stop it. Yeah, still can't do it. I had just

907
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 3: had a Little league baseball flashback. Yeah, we're playing an

908
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 3: opposing team and one of these guys gets on first

909
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 3: base and he's like I'm stealing, and we still couldn't

910
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 3: stop them, you know what I mean? Like it was

911
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 3: just that good. But there's so many examples throughout sports.

912
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 3: Mariano Rivera. You know the cutter is about to be thrown,

913
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 3: you still can't hit it, and Boise State it's not

914
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 3: like they have this prolific passing attack to complement Genty.

915
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 3: You know it's gonna be a heavy, heavy dose thirty

916
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 3: plus carries for Ashton Genty. And when it's all said

917
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 3: and done, even against Penn State with NFL dudes, you

918
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 3: might look up and be like, this freaking guy's still

919
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 3: hit the over? How it could happen? I think the

920
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 3: question for this game for Boise State against Penn State

921
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 3: is how good is your secondary punch if you really

922
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 3: need it badly? Let's say Genty clearly is not gonna

923
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 3: be stopped, but let's say he's held in relative check.

924
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 3: How good is the secondary punch? Do you have one

925
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 3: think about Texas and Arizona State? That Texas defensive front

926
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 3: is deep and way more talented than anything Arizona State

927
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 3: has faced so far this season. What if Skataboo isn't

928
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 3: doing a whole lot, how good is that secondary punch

929
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: against a team like Texas? And so that's what I

930
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: have in mind for Boise State and Arizona State, both

931
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 3: heavy underdogs in their second round matchups. If their stud

932
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 3: running backs are slowed down, how effective are they with

933
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 3: their You know, if we're doing the pitching thing. Again,

934
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 3: Let's say Mariano Rivera's cutter isn't working very well. You know, like,

935
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 3: what then?

936
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: What then?

937
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 3: For Arizona State and Boise State.

938
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 4: I think that Boise State's I think that their passing

939
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 4: game isn't completely complimentary. Obviously Ashin gent has taken up

940
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 4: all the oxygen in the conversation for Boise State, but

941
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 4: they have weapons. I was impressed by their overall offense

942
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 4: over the course of the time studying Boise leading up

943
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 4: to the game that I was on the broadcast for,

944
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 4: because they've got a good quarterback and they have some

945
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 4: good talented receivers around that team. But they're not going

946
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 4: to get any publicity because of what Gentie's done this season,

947
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 4: and understandably so, like you said, when you're chasing heroes

948
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 4: of college football past, because your stud running back is

949
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 4: having that kind of season, you don't really there's not

950
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 4: enough room in the limelight for everybody. What I will

951
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 4: say is it comes down to Penn State. It's so

952
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 4: weird to talk about a team like Penn State who

953
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 4: has real national championship aspirations this way, but they really

954
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 4: are the team that cannot falter. They have to play

955
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 4: turnover free football. I mean, that's the only reason why

956
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 4: the Ducks a lot Boise State back in that game

957
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 4: is because they coughed up the football a couple of

958
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 4: times and that score got real close. And so if

959
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 4: you're going to have a chance, or I shouldn't say

960
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 4: a chance, but if you're gonna win this football game

961
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 4: and you're the Nittney Lions and you want to advance

962
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 4: from the quarterfinals, you gotta play mistake free ball. You

963
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 4: cannot give the Broncos extra opportunities. You cannot cough it up.

964
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,439
Speaker 4: You can't give them extra possessions. Because again, even if

965
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 4: you hold ash Gingentian relative check like you were talking about, Brian,

966
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 4: there's gonna be long drives. So Poise State's gonna shorten

967
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 4: this football game. The clock's gonna be running. And so

968
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 4: if you give them a second opportunity or a second

969
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 4: bite at the apple in the first half of the second,

970
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 4: that may be it. That may be curtains for you.

971
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 4: So when when we talk about the turnover battle in

972
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 4: these games, and we talk about how important it is

973
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 4: in certain games it's more important than others. It is

974
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 4: a good indicator. It's not a one hundred indicator. But

975
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 4: in this game, I promise you it will be If

976
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 4: Penn State turns the ball over more than once. I mean,

977
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 4: it is curtains for them, There's no question about it.

978
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, and we've seen this number, I would

979
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 5: say kind of be relatively stagnant around ten and a half.

980
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 5: I would see a few shops at eleven. Bet MGM

981
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 5: right now is at ten and a half. That's kind

982
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 5: of where the number's been. We haven't really seen much fluctuation.

983
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 5: It's gotten to as low as nine and a half

984
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 5: and then back up to ten and a half, but

985
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 5: that's not a huge move the secondary key number of ten.

986
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 5: So again, there hasn't been a lot of market decision

987
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 5: on this game yet. My guess is with the game

988
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 5: being played Tuesday night, you'll wake up Tuesday morning and

989
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 5: this number will move in one direction or the other.

990
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 5: My guess is it'll move back down, probably closing the

991
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 5: ten nine, nine and a half ten range. But I

992
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 5: don't foresee a huge move here. I think these teams

993
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 5: are priced correctly. I think we know what Penn State

994
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 5: is at this point. They're a team that their offense

995
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 5: might actually be better than their defense at this stage.

996
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 5: Like honestly, I honestly believe the Penn State defense, which

997
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 5: has been fantast all year. They have great players, taking

998
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 5: nothing away from it, but I think with Koto Niki

999
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 5: getting long time to prepare, with Drew Aller announcing he's

1000
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 5: coming back next year, with the running game getting healthier

1001
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 5: with Singleton, I think there is a lot of positives

1002
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 5: about the Penn State offense and their defense has been

1003
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 5: just kind of steady all year.

1004
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 2: They haven't they haven't had this elite I'd like the.

1005
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,439
Speaker 5: Numbers say they're elite, but I think when you watch

1006
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 5: the film, they don't have as many elite guys as

1007
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 5: they normally do up front. Although that Dennis Sutton guy,

1008
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 5: when he's healthy, you pair him and Carter together, that

1009
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 5: is a really good pass rush duo right there. So

1010
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 5: I think those are going to be the keys that

1011
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 5: defensive line, you know, setting the edge. We hear that

1012
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 5: all the time. It's really tough to set the edge

1013
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 5: on gent but on offense for Penn State, they could

1014
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 5: set the tempo in this game. This is not like

1015
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 5: the Penn State teams that I grew up watching when

1016
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 5: I was in college, which is you better play defense first,

1017
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 5: and then you have to hope it's a it's a

1018
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 5: twenty three to twenty game.

1019
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 3: Penn State proved against.

1020
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 5: Oregon they can win forty five to forty two, and

1021
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 5: that is not something that I want Ben State to

1022
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 5: do in this game as a fan, but it's nice

1023
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 5: to know that if this if we do get a

1024
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 5: little loosey goosey, well, the Nitdney Lions just showed against

1025
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 5: one of the best defenses in the country. They can

1026
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 5: go drop forty and that is a different vibe than

1027
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 5: what we've seen in years past with.

1028
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 3: The Snidney Lions team. I'm just curious. You know we're

1029
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 3: short on time, but give me the cliffs notes version.

1030
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 3: What you think about Drew Aller as a quarterback right, Like,

1031
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 3: maybe not necessarily in this game against Boise State, but

1032
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 3: let's say they move on to the next round and

1033
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 3: you need a good amount from Drew Aller. But do

1034
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 3: you feel confident Is it more a Drew Aller thing

1035
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 3: or a lack of weapons to throw too? Because I

1036
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 3: look at it now, I'm not saying Drew Aller as

1037
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,959
Speaker 3: a dud, but there are far too many times he'll

1038
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,240
Speaker 3: have an open receiver. I'm like, where was that throw?

1039
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 4: Dude?

1040
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 3: Where was that throw? I'm just curious what you guys

1041
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 3: think of the guy.

1042
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 4: My comp with Drew Aller is he's got some JJ

1043
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 4: McCarthy and him where he he's not, there's a ceiling.

1044
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 4: He's a little limited, but he's he's got moxie, and

1045
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 4: he's a gamer. When they absolutely need him, he finds

1046
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 4: a way. I'm not overly impressed with him from a

1047
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 4: standpoint of, like, you know the character profile and the ability,

1048
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 4: but there's a certain aspect killer instinct, if you will,

1049
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 4: that you need to have in a quarterback to close games,

1050
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 4: and I think he has it. I don't think he

1051
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 4: has it in spades, but there's some of that clutch

1052
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 4: factor and it showed up a few times when this

1053
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 4: team's needed him. Yeah.

1054
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,919
Speaker 3: And he's gonna get a third season to figure this out.

1055
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1056
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 5: And I think that's the key is he has improved.

1057
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 5: I think he has improved. I think he's improved his confidence.

1058
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 5: I think he's improved his decision making. And the numbers

1059
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 5: say he is really effective when Penn State can run

1060
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 5: the ball.

1061
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 3: When Penn State can run the ball and run play

1062
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 3: action off of it, he is very very dangerous.

1063
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 5: He's not one of those guys I would put him

1064
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 5: in the Shador Sanders category obviously, or the camp Ward category,

1065
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 5: but I think he can be just as dangerous throwing

1066
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 5: the ball when he has an effective running game and

1067
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 5: he trust his defense. Like I think Penn State is,

1068
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 5: of all the teams left in the Collegeable Playoff, one

1069
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 5: of the more like balanced teams. Like they can beat

1070
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 5: you forty three forty if they have to, but they

1071
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 5: can also win twenty one to twenty. Like They've shown

1072
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 5: you that they can win in multiple ways this year,

1073
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 5: and the Oregon game was the big indicator. Like, I

1074
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 5: did not think Penn State had that kind of output

1075
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,439
Speaker 5: in them, but if they do, they're a very different team.

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Speaker 3: Seamus Ball buffet is in full effect eight bowl games today.

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Speaker 3: I'm just curious if you look at not necessarily today,

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Speaker 3: maybe college football playoff games. It's probably a better question

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Speaker 3: for the opt out type bowl games and the portal

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Speaker 3: type bowl games. Is there a line where you're just like,

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Speaker 3: I have no idea, I have no idea it's the

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Speaker 3: better side to take based on all the variables here?

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Speaker 3: Is there a game like that for you?

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Speaker 7: Hey guy? It's great to be back, and I mean

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00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 7: I can pick a game out of a hat, I

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00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 7: probably and frueless as to what it is. These games

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00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 7: are so hard me cap you could really make an

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00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 7: argument for I think any sign on the boy today

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00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 7: in these bowl games.

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Speaker 3: That's right to pick.

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Speaker 7: Fight to pick one. This U n C minus two

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Speaker 7: and a half against UKNDA day up in Boston. I

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Speaker 7: mean a lot of important opt outs for you and

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Speaker 7: C on their offensive side, but there's still against a

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Speaker 7: UKON team that you have to think is really going

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Speaker 7: to try to win this game, So that one I

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Speaker 7: just have no idea where to go there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Again, it goes back to just if you feel like

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Speaker 5: you watch these teams very closely and you know the second, third,

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Speaker 5: fourth string guys.

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Speaker 2: And you know there may be a little bit underrated.

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Speaker 5: I think the prop market is especially a place people

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00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 5: like to gravitate towards with those angles. It just feels

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00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 5: like it feels like the beginning of college basketball season

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00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 5: for you shamers, where you're really scrambling just to figure

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00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 5: out what the best number is. And we see like

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00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 5: that's Syracus WWAZU game last night. I mean, what was

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00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 5: a thirteen to fourteen point move and you ended up

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00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 5: being right on the number where it was supposed to

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Speaker 5: be at the end. It's funny how that works out.

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Speaker 1: Huh yeah.

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Speaker 7: I mean it's just one of those things where you've

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00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 7: just got to trust the respected money that comes in

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00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 7: because at the end of the day, like there's so

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00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 7: many there's so many guys, a true rushman who are

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00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 7: getting their first snaps of the year playing today, Like

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00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 7: in this UNC game, Omar and Hankins out, so we

1147
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 7: have a true freshman going in today. So you really

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00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 7: just got to follow the money here, see what the

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Speaker 7: shops are saying, and then just got to do your best.

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00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 7: The same line with the sharp numbers.

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Speaker 4: We have all these sides and totals and bowl games

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00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 4: to distract us from the futures market. Is there any

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00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 4: value right now in taking a look at the national

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00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 4: Championship futures and throwing a little scratch there, like plus

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Speaker 4: five point.

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Speaker 3: Fifty for example of Penn State.

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Speaker 4: Yes or yes, Seamus, Yes or yes.

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Speaker 7: I'm with you guys. On Penn State. I still think

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00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 7: there's some value there. I mean, they should win against

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00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 7: boys and next week that should be gained. They win,

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Speaker 7: I think pretty handily, and they get the winner of

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Speaker 7: Ned Name, who I think is very similar to the

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00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 7: note Name's get a little beat up on the defensive side.

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Speaker 7: Or Georgia team who doesn't have their starting quarterback and

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00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 7: this feels like a different Georgia than years past. I

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00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 7: think the path really, you know, tends to have some

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Speaker 7: value on Penn State here.

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Speaker 3: Man, can you imagin let me just throw this out

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Speaker 3: in the universe. I just as you said that, Seamus,

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Speaker 3: I thought of the nickname of small game, James. Imagine

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Speaker 3: if Penn State made it to the final like the

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Speaker 3: championship game and got rolled like it's a permanent nickname

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Speaker 3: if that's right, but or is at least a path

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Speaker 3: to that possibly happening? Uh, let me ask you though.

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Speaker 3: Of the four playoff games second round, here, is there

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Speaker 3: a line that you like the most on a side?

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Speaker 3: Anybody stand out to you?

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Speaker 7: First of all, I say Pencer gets the Championshi game,

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01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 7: it loses and gets routed. A damn shame because according

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Speaker 7: to ESPN, you won't ever be allowed back. So what

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01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 7: to deal with that for the for the coming year?

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01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 7: But yes, right the playoff game. I love the Irish

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01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 7: this week, either them or I show of Ohio State

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01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 7: minus two and a half. I think this Ohio State

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01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 7: team is better than Oregon. I would bet this up

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Speaker 7: to three and a half. Honestly, I think, God, I

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01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 7: think this team after that Michigan game, they're on a

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01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 7: They're just on a one way past the final. And

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Speaker 7: I really do like ner a name touching point and

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01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 7: a half here as a Nering fan for a while.

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01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 7: This team feels a lot different than the makeup of

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01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 7: a lot of other NERD etees I've been in the playoff.

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Speaker 7: This is the most confident I've been in the nerdn

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Speaker 7: ame teams to stand toe to toe with an SEC game.

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 5: I went back and watched the film on Indiana and

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01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 5: I was I was wildly impressed. With a lot of

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Speaker 5: the the interescase. I know, the score really pops out

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Speaker 5: at you in that Notre Dame game, and the Jeremiah

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01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 5: Love play really pops out of you. But some of

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Speaker 5: the nuance to what Notre Dame did in that game

1202
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 5: was really high level. And they might be they might

1203
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Speaker 5: be more equipped, better equipped than Georgia to make a

1204
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Speaker 5: run in this cultural playoff. And I agree with you

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Speaker 5: on Ohio State too, and the market, like this is

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01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 5: one of those examples, Like I call it a Vegas

1207
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 5: nose game. We've talked about this multiple times on the show.

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Speaker 5: Vegas Knows. You have the number one seed, undefeated, they

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01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 5: haven't lost the game all year, the Oregon Docs.

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Speaker 2: And they're an underdog in their first collgeet ball playoff game.

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Speaker 5: Like it just it just screams at you that the

1212
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 5: market is kind of sniffing out that Ohio State's the

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Speaker 5: better team here.

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Speaker 7: This Ohio State team you go by, you know, market ratings,

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Speaker 7: strength to schedule of justice. This has been by far

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Speaker 7: the highest the market spy on a team this year, uh,

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Speaker 7: you know, season all season long. So I think Ohio State,

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Speaker 7: I think this is I think that Michigan is a

1219
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Speaker 7: little bit of a wake up call for this team,

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Speaker 7: and now I think they're just really really interesting to

1221
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 7: make things right for leaving that game.

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Speaker 4: Yep, Seamus, you know this is more opinion based, less

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Speaker 4: about you know, the sportsbook, but maybe you could tie

1224
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Speaker 4: it in somehow. It's just a curiosity and we haven't

1225
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Speaker 4: discussed this yet. Bull burnout and what I mean by

1226
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Speaker 4: that For some of these teams who are going to

1227
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Speaker 4: make a deeper run into the postseason. As college football's

1228
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 4: postseason has been expanded all these bowls, they want to

1229
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Speaker 4: have their celebrations and events that they're inviting the players to.

1230
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 4: These coaches have to be protective of the fact that

1231
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Speaker 4: this isn't a vacation. They're on the path to a

1232
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Speaker 4: national championship, but also be respectful of the fact that

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01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 4: some of these bowl games that they're playing in have

1234
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 4: a lot of pomp and circumstance and a lot of

1235
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Speaker 4: traditions surrounding them. Do you think it's possible we're going

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01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 4: to see some of these games be affected by that,

1237
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 4: you know, some of these players tiring out from all

1238
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 4: the travel, the fact that they'll be on site at

1239
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 4: these bowl locations for longer than normal road trips. Could

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Speaker 4: that have an effect on the number in the end

1241
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 4: when you go to handicaps some of these games later on.

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Speaker 7: I think it more is a war of ATTRITIONI like,

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01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 7: you got Ohio State Oregon playing in the Rose Bowl

1244
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Speaker 7: like that is just an awesome game in an awesome setting,

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Speaker 7: and I feel like the players are going to be

1246
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Speaker 7: very aware of that moment. But this is I go

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01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 7: back to Penn State, whe It's like, Okay, you get

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Speaker 7: and at home, take care of business. Then your second

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01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 7: round game, you got Boise State should be taking care

1250
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Speaker 7: of business. I know with Fiesta Bowl and whatnot, but

1251
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Speaker 7: I think they're they're there to take care of business.

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Speaker 7: And then on the other side of the bracket you

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Speaker 7: have Oregon, Texas and Ohio State and you're just gonna

1254
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Speaker 7: watch them beat up on each other. Yeah, and that

1255
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Speaker 7: side of the bracket. And then the next game you

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Speaker 7: get a Georgia team that's a little banged up, a nerd,

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Speaker 7: a team that you can really go toe to toe with.

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Speaker 7: So I think the three you have to look at

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Speaker 7: more of the you know who's playing who going into that,

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Speaker 7: And I think it is a war attrition and you

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Speaker 7: see it in the FCS playoffs most years too.

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Speaker 3: Well, that might be a good segue too. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if you're going a couple of weeks, yeah, fbis,

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Speaker 3: where are you going with us today, Seamus.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna need a little bit of least share, guys. So,

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Speaker 7: Christmas and New Year's synonymous with Bowl season. You got

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Speaker 7: the Christmas a NFL games, you know, the end of

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Speaker 7: the NFL. But for me, Christmas and New Year synonymous

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Speaker 7: with the International Ice Hockey Federations Under twenty World Championships

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Speaker 7: BET are known as the World Juniors. For those who

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01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 7: weren't paying attention, last night, we just saw a lot

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Speaker 7: getting seven goals, a forty to one underdog take down Canada,

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Speaker 7: the whole life country, and a shootout forty to one

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Speaker 7: under And today they need to get backed up and

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Speaker 7: at three point thirty they have to play the tournament favorites, USA,

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Speaker 7: who have a day of rest. I spy with my

1277
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 7: little eye a USA minus five and a half over there,

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Speaker 7: A lot of places have six or six and a half.

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01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 7: I love USA minus five and a half. It's a

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Speaker 7: It is a tough team. Just wake up and it's like,

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Speaker 7: oh now we just gotta play USA again. I think

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01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 7: USA is really gonna I think it's gonna be allowed.

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01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 7: I think USA beats him pretty bad. It's a tough

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01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 7: it's a brutal spot for lot Via. But this is

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01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 7: a really good USA team with really good NHL prospects

1286
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 7: on them. I think they I think they win by

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Speaker 7: at least six or seven goals.

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Speaker 3: Man, I'll tell you what, you are a treasure day.

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Speaker 3: It's a brutal spot. That's the line of day.

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Speaker 7: And if you can't find that, if you can't find that,

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Speaker 7: just take Chris bearing this money Linepmphis.

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Speaker 5: There we go, lord spot for a lot There you go, Samus,

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01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 5: you're the best man.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate the time and enjoy the ball weekend and

1295
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 3: the hockey weekend too. Apparently, man, we'll catch you soon.

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Speaker 7: I have a good one guy there.

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Speaker 3: He is Seamous McGee, team lead of sports trading at

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01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 3: bet MGM. I did not foresee that one. That is

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Speaker 3: that is a call right there? Wow, lot Via fatom

1300
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 3: fadum against the US and hockey.

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Speaker 4: Little little puck talk here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're laying five and a half goals in a

1303
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Speaker 5: hockey game. I mean, I'll be honest, that is not

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01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 5: an easy bet to make. But I give Shamus a

1305
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 5: lot of credits, major onions.

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Speaker 3: He gave us a reason to pay attention to that game.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you that much. Okay, So now this this

1308
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 3: question might come from left field, but let me explain

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Speaker 3: a little bit. Let me take it to the NF

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01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 3: okay for a little while here. So the Seahawks beat

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01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 3: the Bears on Thursday night six to three, and I

1312
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 3: just started thinking about this with Caleb Williams. Where you're

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01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 3: at with Caleb Williams, the Bears quarterback among all the

1314
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 3: other rookie quarterbacks in the NFL and the second year

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01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 3: quarterbacks in the NFL. So here's the question. That's where

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01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 3: it came from, right, So I'm thinking with the rookies

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01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 3: and the second year NFL quarterbacks, we're looking at young,

1318
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 3: young NFL quarterbacks. How would you rank your top three

1319
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 3: in terms of who you think will turn out to

1320
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 3: be the best players over the course of their careers.

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01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 3: I think it's an interesting exercise because you look at

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01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 3: some of these first and second year guys. Who's your

1323
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 3: top three among Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, Drake May Pennix Junior.

1324
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 3: We haven't even seen JJ McCarthy, yet you've seen bo

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01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 3: Nicks and then second year guys Bryce Young CJ. Stroud.

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01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 3: If you're looking into your crystal ball and saying these

1327
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 3: are going to be the top three players from these

1328
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 3: two draft classes, what does your top three look like?

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01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 3: Rich will start with you. What does your top three

1330
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 3: look like in terms of first and second year quarterbacks

1331
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 3: who you think will be the best over the course

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Speaker 3: of their careers.

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Speaker 4: Are we including Jordan Love or does he get factored.

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01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 3: Out he's way after Yeah, yeah, just.

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01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 4: Making sure because it's his second year starting, but he's

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01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:29,719
Speaker 4: obviously been no longer. Okay, So with this list without him,

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01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 4: here's the way I go. I kind of break it

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01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:38,440
Speaker 4: into categories. So Jaden Daniels, bo Nicks very very impressed

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01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 4: with their progression, obviously with their immediate impact on the

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01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 4: squads they came to, and I think they're in good

1341
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:51,520
Speaker 4: situations right there on that list as well. CJ. Stroud obviously,

1342
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:55,799
Speaker 4: so I would say that rounds out my top three. CJ. Stroud.

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01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,919
Speaker 4: I had questions last year whether or not his sophomore

1344
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 4: performance could match his freshman and I think those doubts

1345
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 4: were warranted because we've seen a much different looking CJ.

1346
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 4: Stroud this season than last. Then I moved down the

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01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 4: list into like the bad situation group. That's where I

1348
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 4: put Kayleb Williams and Bryce Young. I think they inherited

1349
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 4: terrible situations. Bryce Young with the fluctuation at head coach

1350
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 4: front office and the perceived fluctuation at head coach front

1351
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:28,520
Speaker 4: office for the Bears coming up for Kayleb Williams, Will Levis,

1352
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 4: I mean not interested, bad decision maker, Anthony Richardson, Jamis

1353
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 4: Winston comp just a lot of talent, great arm strength, athlete,

1354
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 4: big guy but can't stay healthy, and poor decision maker.

1355
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 4: And Pennix Junior just not enough information. So I'm gonna

1356
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 4: say top of the list Jaden Daniels, Bo Nicks, and

1357
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 4: c J Stroud. C J. Stroud got lumped up in

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01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 4: his sophomore year. We'll see if he can finish strong.

1359
01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 2: All right, correct me if I'm wrong here.

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01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 5: This is the pool of names, because I'm just trying

1361
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 5: to frame this conversation. This is the pool of names

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01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 5: we're picking from Levis, Caleb Williams, Anthony Richardson, O'Connell, Bryce Young,

1363
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:15,799
Speaker 5: CJ's Drout, Dan Daniels, Nicks, Drake May, Pennix, Rattler, McCarthy. Obviously,

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01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 5: those last two are kind of on the caboos end.

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01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 5: That's the pool.

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01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:20,719
Speaker 2: I'm not missing anyone, right.

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01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, one of note knowing you know, like Hindon

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01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,759
Speaker 3: Hooker would be on that list, you know I would obviously,

1369
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 3: but yeah, he hasn't seen the field yet.

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01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:33,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do love jayde Daniels one. I'll go surprise

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01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 5: here too. I'm going Drake May too. Okay, I have

1372
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 5: been wildly impressed with what I've seen from Drake May.

1373
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 5: And the reason why I'm impressed is twofold a he

1374
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 5: has like Larry mow and Curly at receiver.

1375
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 3: Like it is, it is a disaster. It is a disaster.

1376
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 5: Skill position group for the Patriots arguably the best or

1377
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 5: excuse me, arguably the worst in the NFL.

1378
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 2: Secondly, his coach, who.

1379
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 5: Was supposed to be a defensive minded head coach, has

1380
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 5: forgotten how to coach defense. So already you have a

1381
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 5: rookie quarterback thrust into the spotlight, was not a starter

1382
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:16,480
Speaker 5: from day one, ascended to the starting job, has no receivers,

1383
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 5: has a good running game, no offensive line, and the

1384
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 5: defense is a bottom ten unit, and that quarterback has

1385
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 5: actually performed statistically better than most of other quarterbacks in

1386
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 5: the NFL since taking that starting job. More he's better

1387
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 5: than fifty percent of the other starting quarterback in the

1388
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 5: entire league, not just the rookies in the second year guys,

1389
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 5: the whole league. So that's why Drake May's number two

1390
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 5: on that list.

1391
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 2: For me, three is tough.

1392
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 3: Obviously CJ.

1393
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 2: Stroud deserves a lot.

1394
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 5: Of recognition, but he has fallen off the map completely,

1395
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 5: and I think it's a little bit of decision making,

1396
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 5: it's a lot of offensive line, and it's even more

1397
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 5: injuries and just sophomore slump like it like, it's all

1398
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 5: of those things combined. But I think because of the

1399
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 5: accolades that he was able to do one and where

1400
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 5: he's at now with his development, I still think he

1401
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 5: deserves to be in the top three. After that, it's

1402
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 5: a whole mess of nothing. I put Bryce Young on

1403
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,719
Speaker 5: the maybe list. I put Caleb Williams on the maybe list.

1404
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 5: If the Bears can hire a head coach who can

1405
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 5: you know, groom him and Michael Pennix, I think could

1406
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 5: take a giant step forward on Sunday Night if he

1407
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 5: can figure out a way to beat Washington or at

1408
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 5: least keep that game close. Obviously, bo Nicks needs to

1409
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 5: be on the list too, But I think my one

1410
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 5: two three is Daniels may Stroud.

1411
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1412
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 3: It's pretty crazy with with Stroud, where I'm just looking

1413
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 3: at his passer rating, his passer rating, he's looking up

1414
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:41,719
Speaker 3: at Cooper Rush. Yeah, he's looking up at Caleb Williams,

1415
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 3: who's a rookie. So it's he's absolutely regressed. And some

1416
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 3: of it's just lack of accuracy. That's what's so stunning.

1417
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 3: Where last year he was so accurate and this year

1418
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 3: you watch him on Christmas Day against the Ravens and

1419
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 3: you're like, the guy was wide open. What happened? You know,

1420
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 3: Like it's stunning to watch. Okay, So just to reset it.

1421
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 3: If you're joining us late, you're like, what are these

1422
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 3: guys talking about? So we're looking at first and second

1423
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 3: year quarterbacks. Okay, we're ranking who we think will be

1424
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 3: the top three in terms of the best players over

1425
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 3: the course of their careers. Okay, And so we're on

1426
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 3: the same page. As far as Jayden Daniels goes, I

1427
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 3: would have him number one on the list. His numbers

1428
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 3: are comparable to Josh Allen, the Bulls quarterback who is

1429
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 3: the favorite to win MVP. When you're a rookie and

1430
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 3: you're putting up numbers that rival the potential league MVP,

1431
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 3: you're a special player, and we've seen it from Jayden Daniels.

1432
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 3: He's a playmaker. I put Caleb Williams number two. The

1433
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 3: guy has all the ability in the world. He had

1434
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 3: Matt Eberflus a lame duck head coach. Now he's on

1435
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 3: an interim head coach. He doesn't have a great offensive line.

1436
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 3: You put Ben Johnson over there, get an offensive coach

1437
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 3: that helps him out quite a bit. Look at Sam

1438
01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:00,600
Speaker 3: Darnold and Minnesota right what coaching can do for you.

1439
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 3: I'm not selling Caleb Williams stock at all, and I'm

1440
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 3: not selling my CJ. Stroud stock at all either. Where

1441
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 3: he was so special last season. I don't think he's

1442
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 3: just forgotten how to play quarterback. I would put him

1443
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 3: number three. Would it shock me, Jared, if Drake may

1444
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 3: turns out to be one of the top three from

1445
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 3: these last two draft classes, not at all. Would it

1446
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 3: shock me if one of these guys that we've hardly

1447
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 3: seen at all breaks the top three. No, but as

1448
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 3: of right now, that's what I expect them most for.

1449
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 5: If you could pick one, you were drafting one today,

1450
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 5: you had a list of all of them, who would

1451
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 5: you pick?

1452
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 3: You picked Daniels, I would take Daniels, but I would

1453
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 3: be tempted with a couple of the other quarterbacks because

1454
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 3: we have such a small sample size, you know. But

1455
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 3: look at Stroud. He got off to a great start.

1456
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 3: Where is he now? RG three got off to an

1457
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 3: amazing start with and when Stroud.

1458
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 5: Thing is weird because he's like such a good, like

1459
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 5: accurate passer, and like the accuracy's just completely fallen off

1460
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 5: the map.

1461
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Speaker 3: FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian Nell coming up next. Ah, Yes,

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01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 3: the cool waters of prop it up Lake. Huh. We

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01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:33,839
Speaker 3: go to the prop bet market.

1474
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1475
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 3: We'll compare notes. Yeah, lot NFL college, lots to do here,

1476
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Speaker 3: All right, let's do.

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Speaker 1: This prop it up don't player plays?

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01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 3: Okay, we're looking at the prop bet market. Jared, We'll

1488
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 3: start with you.

1489
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 2: What do you like?

1490
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go to this Miami.

1491
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 5: Iowas thinking because I do think there are some bets

1492
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 5: to be made on the Miami side, even though we

1493
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 5: are a little bit uncertain about Cam Whart's status. And

1494
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 5: we know Xavier Verstreppo probably won't play. The tight end

1495
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 5: to Royal probably won't play either. That is two of

1496
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 5: Cam's biggest weapons, but it's still relatively high total in

1497
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 5: the game. And what do we know about Iowa State

1498
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 5: based off of what we watched in that Big twelve

1499
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 5: championship game. Well, they like to play that weird three

1500
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 5: three five defense, which usually allows the running game to

1501
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 5: be featured prominently.

1502
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 2: We saw Cam Scattaball run absolutely wild.

1503
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 3: So where am I going here?

1504
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 5: Damian Martinez, who's trying to improve his draft stock, is

1505
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 5: going to play in this game. He is the running

1506
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 5: back for Miami and he is a very reasonably price

1507
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 5: mine is won twenty five to score a touchdown in

1508
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 5: this game, So.

1509
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 3: Let's go Damian Martinez.

1510
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 5: Didn't put him in tunny time, but we'll put him

1511
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:10,719
Speaker 5: in profit up minus. Won twenty five on the touchdown

1512
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 5: prop today for the Canes against Iowa State.

1513
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 4: All right, I'm sending you to the NFL Chargers Patriots.

1514
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 4: Lad mcconkee favorite target of Justin Herbert for the Chargers

1515
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 4: rookie wide receiver. He's on pace to break a bunch

1516
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 4: of rookie records for wide receivers with the Los Angeles Chargers,

1517
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 4: and one of the streaks that he is now etched

1518
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:36,600
Speaker 4: himself in the record books is an eight game receiving

1519
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 4: streak where he is caught for over fifty plus yards.

1520
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:44,600
Speaker 4: He ties Odell Beckham Junior last week. I think he

1521
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 4: continues today against a weak Patriots passing defense. The numbers

1522
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 4: set at seventy three and a half yards. Give me

1523
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 4: the over there, lad McConkey, going over seventy three and

1524
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 4: a half receiving yards against a weak Patriots pass defense.

1525
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, like what you're thinking, I'm gonna go

1526
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:05,640
Speaker 3: back to college here. Let me go with this is

1527
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 3: the guy of the day for me. Man Colorado wide

1528
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 3: receiver Lejhonte Wester, I'm gonna take over seventy seven and

1529
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 3: a half receiving yards again. You go back to Shador Sanders.

1530
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 3: His passing prop is at three eighteen and a half, right,

1531
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 3: so he's expected to throw for a good amount of yards.

1532
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 3: And I'm just wondering with Travis Hunter if he is

1533
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 3: playing wide receiver throughout the entire game like he normally would,

1534
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 3: I don't know that he will be And so if

1535
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 3: he does, we still have a shot to get there

1536
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 3: with Wester. And if Hunter is on any sort of

1537
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 3: pitch count doesn't get his normal reps, that helps Wester

1538
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 3: even more so. Getting to seventy eight receiving yards absolutely

1539
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 3: in play for Wester. I like the over, give me

1540
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 3: over seventy seven and a half for Wester buffs receiver

1541
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 3: today against BYU, and this game starts in like five minutes.

1542
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 5: But I did bet the over on this UNC running

1543
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 5: backs prop today, the one I was talking about earlier.

1544
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 5: I forget his name on top of my head, but

1545
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 5: I did bet it. I pull it up right now

1546
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 5: for it. I honestly forgot it.

1547
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,440
Speaker 2: So I did a little I did a little mini SGP.

1548
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 5: Geist that's his name, Geiss over eighty six and a

1549
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 5: half rush yards paired with a touchdown. It was like

1550
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 5: plus one forty.

1551
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:23,560
Speaker 3: Okay, you go up on it starts is we're officially

1552
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 3: betting when we're like, I just took this, Gosh, I

1553
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 3: forget the guy's name, you know, yeah right now?

1554
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 5: So many games today, guys, I'm out the trouble keeping

1555
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 5: track is.

1556
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:38,919
Speaker 4: I knew exactly who you were talking about, Goss.

1557
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna need some pause after this, no doubt.

1558
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:46,639
Speaker 3: All right, coming up next? Is this a Vegas nose

1559
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:52,839
Speaker 3: game or a complete change of tune? Oh, welcome in here.

1560
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 3: The ball buffet in fall effect. Eight Bowl games today,

1561
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 3: three NFL games on a Saturday, and listen, we'll get

1562
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:06,759
Speaker 3: to some of the Sunday and Monday slate, some interesting

1563
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,719
Speaker 3: games as far as that goes. So a preview city

1564
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 3: here today on countdown. Let me throw a couple other

1565
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 3: college football playoff games at you, because look, we're not

1566
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 3: going to be on before these games and they're just

1567
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 3: a couple of days away. So I just want to

1568
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 3: throw Oregon and Ohio State at you because Jared mentioned

1569
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 3: this a little bit earlier. Ohio State favored by two

1570
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 3: and a half. The eight seed is favored over the

1571
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:37,599
Speaker 3: one seed by two and a half, and it's like, wow.

1572
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 3: The thing is, look, Ohio State might win the game,

1573
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 3: Ohio State might cover. But to me, it's just crazy

1574
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 3: how quickly things have changed in terms of how Ohio

1575
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 3: State has looked at It was just a couple of

1576
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 3: weeks ago Ohio State embarrassingly lost to Michigan. They're favored

1577
01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 3: by almost three touchdowns and they lost at home and

1578
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 3: all you heard was Ryan Day sucks. This Ohio State

1579
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 3: team sucks. What an underachieving bunch of dopes, that sort

1580
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 3: of thing. And they beat Tennessee and now they're favored

1581
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 3: against Oregon, a team they lost to. I'm like, what

1582
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 3: is happening again? Ohio State might be the right side,

1583
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 3: but the tune has completely done a one eighty for

1584
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 3: that Ohio State program. It's wild to me.

1585
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 4: That's why you have to ignore the narrative and you

1586
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 4: have to watch the football because it doesn't matter what

1587
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 4: the media thinks about Ryan Day or who needs to

1588
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 4: be fired and the loudest voices prevail in the media world.

1589
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 4: What prevails in football is logic and common sense and

1590
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 4: better players are better strategies or potentially where games are

1591
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 4: being played neutral site this time around instead of Audston Stadium. Okay,

1592
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 4: that game was that sixty three points scored in that game? Oregon.

1593
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:08,759
Speaker 4: They've been balky on defense against some of the better

1594
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 4: competition that they've faced over the course of the season.

1595
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 4: At least thirty one points scored against them by three

1596
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 4: of the teams remaining in the field Penn State, Boise State,

1597
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 4: and then obviously Ohio State. I mentioned it was a

1598
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 4: bit of a barn burner, and I'm expecting the same

1599
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 4: thing this time around. Now, I will say one edge

1600
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 4: that Oregon has developed since their last meeting with Ohio

1601
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:36,799
Speaker 4: State the fact that Dylan Gabriel has only gotten better,

1602
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 4: more confident, and comfortable at quarterback. But Ohio State also

1603
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 4: has built some confidence along the way too. I think

1604
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 4: the fact that this game is going to play be

1605
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 4: played on a neutral field. The spread and the side

1606
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 4: and which way the number is facing makes sense to

1607
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 4: me because it's tough to beat the same team twice,

1608
01:22:57,560 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 4: especially a team that went toe to toe with you

1609
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 4: in your home field. I like Ohio State in this one.

1610
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 4: Right now, we'll see how I feel as we got

1611
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 4: closer to kickoff.

1612
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, so the I went back and watched the Oregon

1613
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 5: Ohio State game this week.

1614
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:14,480
Speaker 3: A couple things stood out.

1615
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 5: And I don't want to make a lot out of

1616
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 5: that game because obviously both teams are different then, but

1617
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:25,800
Speaker 5: it's just it's just the defensive line for Ohio State

1618
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:27,919
Speaker 5: I think played a lot better than the final score indicates.

1619
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,680
Speaker 2: And this is a defensive line. This is a defense in.

1620
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 5: General that has dudes, and they played together upfront, and

1621
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 5: I think that is the scariest thing for an Oregon

1622
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:40,719
Speaker 5: offensive line that when I watch their games this year,

1623
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 5: when I turn on the tape against Penn State, the

1624
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 5: one thing I noticed about the Oregon offensive line is

1625
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 5: they're good at creating creases with their scheme, but they're

1626
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 5: not good at pushing people around.

1627
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 3: They're not the biggest, they're not the strongest, but their.

1628
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 5: Scheme is elite, and they get you to the edge

1629
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 5: and they crease you in and they cut it right

1630
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,879
Speaker 5: back up and they've got back and they've got accurate quarterback,

1631
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 5: and they've got receivers who can you know, make plays

1632
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 5: like they have all of the tools you need to

1633
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 5: be a good offense except bully ball. They are not

1634
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 5: gonna just line it up and smash mouth you. So

1635
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 5: the question is ken Ohio State, which I think their

1636
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 5: defense has besides that game against Oregon which.

1637
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 3: They got beat deep a few times.

1638
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 5: Tez Johnson, listen, he's a rockstar, guys. He's gonna make

1639
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 5: a lot of really good defenses in the NFL. One day,

1640
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 5: I think, look that foolish. But this Buck Guys defense,

1641
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:35,679
Speaker 5: I do think at their core that was a tough

1642
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 5: environment on the road at Austin. This will be a

1643
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 5: neutral in the Rose Bowl place they're very familiar with,

1644
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 5: very comfortable with. I think their defense is going to

1645
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 5: look wildly different in this game. And Caleb Downs like

1646
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 5: Caleb Downs in that game against Oregon. And again, I

1647
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 5: know Oregon scored thirty plus and they won the game,

1648
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:53,839
Speaker 5: but you turn on the tape and you watch Caleb Downs.

1649
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 3: This guy from the safety position is like.

1650
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 5: Running up like a heat seeking missile to the line

1651
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,600
Speaker 5: of scrimmage. Take it on three hundred pound lineman. The

1652
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 5: dude's like six ninety pounds. So I think that is

1653
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 5: where Ohio State has an edge in this game.

1654
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 3: I do think they.

1655
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 5: Are more physical than Oregon at the point of attack,

1656
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 5: and I think if they can shut down the run,

1657
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 5: this is going to be a tough game for Oregans offense.

1658
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 3: I think that football listen, there are just so many

1659
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 3: players and there are so many things to look at

1660
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 3: with just a particular team. Ohio State is a great

1661
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:34,759
Speaker 3: example where after a loss to Michigan you can focus

1662
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 3: on the negative things. After a win against Tennessee you

1663
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 3: can focus on the positive things, and you can make

1664
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 3: sense doing both. You know what I mean, but it

1665
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 3: can be an overreaction on either side, where like both

1666
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 3: things can be true at the same time and both

1667
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 3: can be a bit embellished at the same time. Where

1668
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 3: after Michigan is just like what the hell? And then

1669
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 3: after Tennessee it's wow, look at these wide receivers. Wow,

1670
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 3: look at this d line. Wow, look this talent every

1671
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 3: freaking wear on this Ohio State team. They could win

1672
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 3: it all. Like, it's amazing how the same team this

1673
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 3: is the course of two games, two games and the

1674
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 3: tune is completely flipped. And I'm not saying it's wrong.

1675
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 3: I'm just saying it is very interesting that this is

1676
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 3: the case. And you can do that with a lot

1677
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 3: of football teams in the NFL or college football. You

1678
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 3: can focus on the good, you can focus on the

1679
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 3: bad of the team because most teams have both.

1680
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, listen, I think that I think that every

1681
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 4: team's gonna have their wards, you know what I mean.

1682
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 4: You're going to be able to draw back moments like

1683
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 4: Michigan for Ohio State, like Northern Illinois for Notre Dame,

1684
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 4: where you're going to have moments blips on the radar

1685
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 4: where you can say, yeah, but what about Dot dot dot.

1686
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1687
01:26:54,640 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 4: I mean, but the what abouts sometimes make up life

1688
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 4: fright or sometimes tell the whole story. And sometimes they're

1689
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 4: exactly the way I described them. They're just blips on

1690
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 4: the radar, especially in football, a sport where we know

1691
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 4: it doesn't make sense sometimes that Appalachia State could go

1692
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 4: into the big House and win, that Northern Illinois could

1693
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 4: take down a Notre Dame team that's vying for a

1694
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 4: national championship. But it happens, It happens, and it happens

1695
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 4: all the time in this sport. And so either you

1696
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 4: could get hung up on one data point, or you

1697
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 4: could look at the wider amount of information that you

1698
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 4: have and look at two teams more evenly. Again, the

1699
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 4: Michigan loss is closer in the rear view than, for example,

1700
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 4: the comparison I was making to Notre Dame. So I

1701
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 4: understand that taste hasn't been completely washed from the mouth.

1702
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 4: I get it. But this is the team today, or

1703
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 4: I should say, that will line up against Oregon is

1704
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 4: not the team that lined up against the Wolverines, is

1705
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 4: not the team that lined up against the Ducks all

1706
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 4: those weeks ago. It's a completely different team.

1707
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 5: I am just so glad. I'm not a head football

1708
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 5: coach at area.

1709
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 2: I mean what and.

1710
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 5: I've been told in life you ignore everything before the butt.

1711
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 5: Ryan Day is a great coach, but you know, he

1712
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 5: just struggles against Michigan and you know, or you could

1713
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 5: flip it.

1714
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 3: You could flip it.

1715
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 5: Ohio State's a great football team, but I don't trust

1716
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 5: Ryan Day, right, Like, which side of the argument are

1717
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 5: you on here? Because I've heard two very strong arguments

1718
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 5: over the last month. I've heard Ohio State is the

1719
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 5: best team in the country, but they have one.

1720
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 3: Of the worst coaches.

1721
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 2: All right, Well that that can't be.

1722
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:47,640
Speaker 3: True, right, or you flip it.

1723
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 5: Ryan Day is a terrible football coach, but his team

1724
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 5: is really talented.

1725
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 3: Well what am I ignoring here?

1726
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 5: Like both Like, both of those things maybe can be true,

1727
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 5: but the higher believe that we like to use it with,

1728
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:06,679
Speaker 5: I think is where we get twisted and recentcy bias.

1729
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 5: I say, this all is a hell of a drug.

1730
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 5: It is a hell of a drug. Ohio State looks

1731
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:14,679
Speaker 5: terrible against Michigan. The sky's falling. Ohio State looks great

1732
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:18,559
Speaker 5: against Tennessee. They're winning the national championship. The truth is

1733
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 5: probably somewhere in the middle, and maybe they do win

1734
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 5: the national championship, but they are not going to look

1735
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 5: that dominant like they did against Tennessee in this game

1736
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 5: against Oregon, and then the opposite is going to be true.

1737
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 5: They are not going to look as lifeless as they

1738
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:35,800
Speaker 5: did against Michigan against Oregon. You're never as good as

1739
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 5: your best data point, you're never as bad as your worst.

1740
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 5: But we've got to talk about something the next day

1741
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 5: on the morning talk shows, and we need to sell, right,

1742
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 5: We need.

1743
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 3: To sell newspapers, we need to sell records. Sex sells.

1744
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 5: Ryan Day having a bad game against Michigan doesn't sell

1745
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 5: Ryan Day being the worst coach that Ohio State's ever

1746
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 5: had sells a lot better for the for the narrative.

1747
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:59,639
Speaker 5: But the truth is they are an unbelievably talented team

1748
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 5: if an incredible amount of brain power in their coaching room.

1749
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 5: I mean, Chip Kelly was in his bag against Tennessee

1750
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 5: and maybe he was saving a little bit, maybe he knew,

1751
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 5: maybe he thought, hey, we could beat Michigan with one

1752
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 5: hand tie behind our back. We can't do that against Tennessee.

1753
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 5: We can't do that against Oregon. Let's save the good

1754
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 5: stuff for those games. And Will Howard was in his

1755
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 5: bag too. That's another part of this equation we haven't

1756
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 5: even mentioned yet. Will Howard playing like I mean, that

1757
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 5: was like the best game I've ever seen.

1758
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 2: Will Howard play right? Can he do that again in

1759
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl against Oregon?

1760
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 3: If he can?

1761
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 2: Man, I'll tell you what, Ohio State should be the

1762
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 2: favorite to win it all.

1763
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 3: We got a lot to get to. I'll tell you

1764
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:40,759
Speaker 3: what we'll We'll break early, will be all about clock

1765
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 3: integrity as good little hosts here on countdown. Huh. And

1766
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 3: then we'll come back and we'll talk about one certain

1767
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:50,920
Speaker 3: team where I might be rocking a T shirt of

1768
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:53,639
Speaker 3: this certain school from the town.

1769
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 4: You know, they have a.

1770
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 3: Game going on against they call him the dogs. You know,

1771
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 3: you know we gotta get that game for sure. We've

1772
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:04,960
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Speaker 3: There's a complete lack of respect for one squad, one squad,

1780
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:34,640
Speaker 3: I believe, and man another game. What a difference a

1781
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:37,760
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1782
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Speaker 3: if that bet loses. Okay, little team from South Bend

1794
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 3: named the Notre Dame Fighting Irish huh taken on Georgia.

1795
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:29,760
Speaker 3: First things first, I've heard people say, hey, after that

1796
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 3: loss against Northern Illinois, this has been the most dominant

1797
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 3: team in the country, and you can make that argument.

1798
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 3: There's data to back that up that they have been.

1799
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 3: This is the moment of freaking truth, especially if you're

1800
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 3: a better and you're saying something like that. They're facing

1801
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 3: Georgia who hasn't been all world and they've got their

1802
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 3: backup quarterback in their gunner Stockton. If you're like leading

1803
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:56,759
Speaker 3: the charge and saying this has been the most dominant team,

1804
01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 3: this is the time to bet Notre Dame. This is

1805
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 3: the moment of truth where you put your money where

1806
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:03,880
Speaker 3: your mouth is. And I'm curious how much we're going

1807
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:05,320
Speaker 3: to see as far as that goes. Now, a couple

1808
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:07,759
Speaker 3: of things he got to keep in mind. Riley Mills

1809
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 3: stud defensive lineman out. That's a big loss for Notre Dame,

1810
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:15,679
Speaker 3: and of course Carson Back being out for Georgia huge loss.

1811
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 3: This game could be an absolute rock fight. This could

1812
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 3: be a low, low scoring game. And I'll say this,

1813
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:28,680
Speaker 3: Riley Leonard has got to pick up some yards with

1814
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 3: his legs. He did hardly any running he didn't need

1815
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:34,599
Speaker 3: to against Indiana. That's not going to be the story

1816
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:37,559
Speaker 3: against Georgia. I think Riley Leonard, who's been good and

1817
01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 3: effective running the ball, I think he's got to be

1818
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:42,559
Speaker 3: able to do that against Georgia.

1819
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 4: So you look at the coaching comparison and you say

1820
01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 4: to yourself, Kirby Smart Marcus Freeman, and you know there's

1821
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:52,760
Speaker 4: an edge to Kirby Smart for obvious reasons. But at

1822
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 4: the same token, I think Marcus Freeman's a pretty good

1823
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 4: football coach. I think he's done some really good things

1824
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 4: since he's taken over that programs toughness with Notre Dame

1825
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 4: that has returned. And I really appreciate Riley Leonard and

1826
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:12,120
Speaker 4: his maturity as a quarterback. And I look at Georgia

1827
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 4: and I feel like there's more excuses being made for

1828
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 4: what's happening with the Dogs than what typically happens with

1829
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 4: other teams. Georgia, I know they have a defense that's

1830
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:29,200
Speaker 4: elite and can beat any offense in this country. I

1831
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 4: get it. You know, if they're playing well, they're tough.

1832
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 4: I know they have an offense that, when they're playing

1833
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 4: in sync, can beat just about any defense in the country.

1834
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 4: There's no question about that. But how much stock are

1835
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 4: we putting in gun or Stockton, like, we're just going

1836
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 4: to completely omit the fact that we have a come

1837
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 4: almost unproven, talented quarterback taking over where Carson Beck was

1838
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 4: haralded as a part of the reason, not the whole reason,

1839
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:01,639
Speaker 4: but a part of the reason why they were so

1840
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 4: successful during his tenure as quarterback. He's not available, and

1841
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 4: we're just gonna say, oh, yeah, but this guy could

1842
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 4: do it. It's like, really, I mean he he had

1843
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 4: a turnover that could could have and almost was the

1844
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 4: turning point of that game against Texas, and it's it

1845
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:20,640
Speaker 4: just feels like not enough attention is being paid to

1846
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:23,639
Speaker 4: that one data point that I think is insanely important

1847
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 4: in football. Great head coach, great quarterback equals greatness in

1848
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 4: the pros and at the college level. Now you look

1849
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 4: at this coaching comparison, fairly even slide edge to Georgia

1850
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:39,599
Speaker 4: in my opinion. You look at the quarterback comparison, and

1851
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:41,720
Speaker 4: I don't think it's much of a comparison. I think

1852
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:43,559
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a low scoring game. Like you said,

1853
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:46,639
Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a lot of it's

1854
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:48,439
Speaker 4: gonna feel like a lot of the early rounds of

1855
01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 4: a heavyweight fight where boxers are pawing at each other.

1856
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 4: And then I really, I really feel like Notre Dame

1857
01:35:55,479 --> 01:36:00,440
Speaker 4: has the edge here. I I do. I don't trust

1858
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:03,759
Speaker 4: what Georgia has at quarterback. Yeah.

1859
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 5: And by the way, we just got some uh we

1860
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 5: got some breaking news just now on on Carson Beck.

1861
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 2: He is going to declare for the draft. I don't

1862
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:11,879
Speaker 2: think there was any surprise there.

1863
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 5: But I just saw that that that was just posted

1864
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 5: on some of the Georgia on some of the Georgia

1865
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 5: Sports Illustrated sites that that cover the recruiting, and they

1866
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 5: do a really good job of it. So I would

1867
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 5: believe that, I would believe that report. And uh yeah,

1868
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:27,640
Speaker 5: Carson Beck's gonna move on. So here's the here's the

1869
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 5: contrast in this game. So Back, of course known for

1870
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 5: his three hundred thousand dollars Lamborghini that he drives around Athens.

1871
01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 5: The contrast in this game is Gunner stocked and drives

1872
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 5: around in nineteen eighty four to Ford f one fifty.

1873
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:43,639
Speaker 3: Like that's that's a true story. What color? No, I'm curious,

1874
01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

1875
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 5: Mark Mark Schlabat from USBN wrote wrote an article on

1876
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:52,559
Speaker 5: Gunner very you know, a long feature article this week,

1877
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 5: and and it was really intriguing to kind of read

1878
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 5: about him, and and and I've done some research on

1879
01:36:57,439 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 5: him behind the scenes, and he's he's a gamer. That's

1880
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 5: what That's what I've read, That's what I've understood. He's

1881
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 5: not the most talented guy in the room. But there

1882
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 5: was a time when he was participating in one of

1883
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:09,200
Speaker 5: these quarterback camps, and by the end of the camp,

1884
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:11,720
Speaker 5: all the other receivers and running backs all wanted to

1885
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:13,799
Speaker 5: be around him because he's just one of those magnet

1886
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:15,640
Speaker 5: you know, He's one of those personalities. He's one of

1887
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:18,800
Speaker 5: those guys with a big persona that can command a room.

1888
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:20,519
Speaker 5: And that's what you need to do to play quarterback

1889
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:23,200
Speaker 5: at Georgia. And I'll be honest if you were gonna

1890
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:25,680
Speaker 5: ask me what Georgia needs in this game. Do they

1891
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:28,479
Speaker 5: need the guy, the shiny, flashy quarterback with the big

1892
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 5: rocket arm and the draft prospect driving the three hundred

1893
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 5: k Lambeau or do they need the spicy, feisty gamer. Right,

1894
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 5: he's gonna make the right play in the right spot.

1895
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:40,479
Speaker 5: I would choose the latter in this spot. Brian, Yeah,

1896
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:42,679
Speaker 5: I hear what you're saying. It might be that type

1897
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 5: of game. You know, it's more of a rock fight

1898
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:49,960
Speaker 5: type game. So hey, maybe maybe for one game it's

1899
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 5: a blessing in disguise. It could be with you on

1900
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:58,679
Speaker 5: your backup that those could be the dumbest words ever mentioned,

1901
01:37:58,720 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 5: and I.

1902
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 3: Hope they are, I really they are. This comes back

1903
01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 3: to bite Georgia in a huge way. But it's an

1904
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 3: intriguing matchup, and I think what would stun me the most.

1905
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 3: It wouldn't be one side winning either way. I wouldn't

1906
01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 3: be stunned if George one or if Notre Dame one.

1907
01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 3: What would stun me if there are a lot of

1908
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 3: points in this game?

1909
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:19,679
Speaker 2: Agreed?

1910
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:24,240
Speaker 3: Because Notre Dame's defense is legit. Georgia's running game has

1911
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 3: never gotten on track this season, and now they have

1912
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:30,160
Speaker 3: their backup quarterback in their Notre Dame's passing game has

1913
01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:32,960
Speaker 3: never been anything to write home about this season, which

1914
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 3: is surprising to me. I thought it would be a

1915
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:37,720
Speaker 3: lot better with Riley Leonard and it just hasn't been.

1916
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:40,599
Speaker 3: It's been mediocre the whole time. I don't care what

1917
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:43,680
Speaker 3: anybody says. So the only thing that would surprise me

1918
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:45,880
Speaker 3: is if they are just points and you're like, Wow,

1919
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:48,880
Speaker 3: we got a shootout over here that would shock me.

1920
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:51,360
Speaker 3: It just does not set up to be that type

1921
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 3: of game.

1922
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, when I said Edge Notre Dame. It's a

1923
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:58,800
Speaker 4: slight one, but it's still there. And when I talk,

1924
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 4: I don't want to they talk bad. But when I

1925
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 4: have questions about Stockton, it's not because he could improve

1926
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:10,400
Speaker 4: us all wrong, but but there is a feeling and

1927
01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 4: I know you guys probably feel it too. When you're

1928
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:15,560
Speaker 4: looking at the NFL and some of these college quarterbacks

1929
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:18,400
Speaker 4: who are coming out with only one year of starting

1930
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:22,120
Speaker 4: experience at the collegiate level, like Trubisky or Lance, they

1931
01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:25,400
Speaker 4: really are flum mixed by the systems they walk into

1932
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:28,800
Speaker 4: because they're less experienced, you know. And then you look

1933
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 4: at guys like Jaden Daniels, who played five years of

1934
01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:36,280
Speaker 4: college football, some at ASU, some at LSU, Heisman winner,

1935
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 4: walks into the pros and he's he's got some real talent.

1936
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:42,400
Speaker 4: He's got some capability because he's seen a lot, he's

1937
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:45,800
Speaker 4: done a lot, he's felt blitz packages, he understands how

1938
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 4: to read a defense. He's a little bit further along

1939
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:52,000
Speaker 4: in the evolution process that quarterbacks have to go through

1940
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 4: to gain experiencing become better players. You know, same thing

1941
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 4: with Drake May who's had success with the New England Patriots,

1942
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 4: who are a bad offensive football team in roster construction,

1943
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:05,559
Speaker 4: but he's elevated them since he's stepped in and he's

1944
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:09,280
Speaker 4: had a lot of college playing experience. So less experienced

1945
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:13,040
Speaker 4: players make more mistakes than experienced players, or they should

1946
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:16,479
Speaker 4: because they just haven't seen as much. And so when

1947
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 4: when football games with tight margins like this one, I

1948
01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:23,400
Speaker 4: think lines up to be between Georgia and Notre Dame

1949
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:27,240
Speaker 4: come down to making mistakes or not. Who are you

1950
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Speaker 4: gonna trust more, Leonard or Stockton. I think there's a

1951
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:36,200
Speaker 4: little bit to what Jared said. Sometimes, you know, emotion

1952
01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 4: and maybe the ethos of a player can can captivate

1953
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Speaker 4: a team and really help push them over the top.

1954
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:52,040
Speaker 4: That only goes so far, though, because the steeper the competition,

1955
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:57,240
Speaker 4: the harder it becomes to just let emotion carry you.

1956
01:40:57,240 --> 01:41:00,080
Speaker 4: You know, experience needs to carry you. And I I

1957
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 4: think Notre Dame has more at a more important position

1958
01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 4: than Georgia does.

1959
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Speaker 5: That I agree with, And I think the SEC title

1960
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 5: game was kind of that in a nutshell, it was

1961
01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:11,479
Speaker 5: kind of you know, gunnerstocked and kind of willed them

1962
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:14,760
Speaker 5: back into that game after person Beck got heard, and

1963
01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:17,559
Speaker 5: it was, you know, first time coming off cold, never

1964
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 5: played before. You're in overtime against the sc you know,

1965
01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 5: in the SEC championship game, and you're leading a game

1966
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:25,519
Speaker 5: winning drive, and it was actually ironic that Carson bec

1967
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:27,759
Speaker 5: came in for the final handoff in that game.

1968
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Speaker 2: But still, that was.

1969
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:34,080
Speaker 5: A lot of heart and hustle and will and determination

1970
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 5: when I watched. So I went back and watched the

1971
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:39,719
Speaker 5: Indiana Notre Dame game again this week. Besides Kurt Signetti

1972
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:43,320
Speaker 5: having like the worst game plan imaginable to face Notre

1973
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 5: Dame's defense, who, by the way, Notre Dame plays man defense.

1974
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 5: That's what they do, you know, going into the game,

1975
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:51,320
Speaker 5: Notre Dame's playing man.

1976
01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:52,839
Speaker 3: That is like one hundred percent certainty.

1977
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:55,160
Speaker 5: So Kurt Signetti's like, yeah, instead of you know, running

1978
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:58,439
Speaker 5: man beaters and rubs and drags, let's just go slant

1979
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:01,160
Speaker 5: and fade route and just hope that our receivers, who

1980
01:42:01,160 --> 01:42:05,240
Speaker 5: are you know, mid major upgrades, are gonna beat.

1981
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:06,840
Speaker 2: Notre Dame's defense one on one.

1982
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Speaker 5: Yet that that ain't gonna work, or maybe instead of

1983
01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 5: doing game day before the game, you should you should

1984
01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:13,960
Speaker 5: plan some better offensive schemes there, but Notre Dame.

1985
01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:14,920
Speaker 2: Is such a smart team.

1986
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 3: There were so.

1987
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:20,560
Speaker 5: Many moments in that game where receivers are motioning.

1988
01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:22,320
Speaker 2: To Riley Leonard, Hey, we're in man here.

1989
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:24,680
Speaker 5: Let's let let's get into the right call, like that

1990
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:27,760
Speaker 5: Jeremiah loved long touchdown run that was set up by

1991
01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:31,120
Speaker 5: Jaden Thomas, who on the play side realized he was

1992
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:33,680
Speaker 5: in man cover, the corners were in man coverage on

1993
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:37,400
Speaker 5: the other side, motioned back to the other side of

1994
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:39,960
Speaker 5: the field, the opposite side from where the play was called,

1995
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 5: and it opened up that lane which allowed Jeremiah to

1996
01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:45,320
Speaker 5: kind of run around the corner there hit that Now.

1997
01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 5: Obviously the explosive after burners helped him finish that play,

1998
01:42:49,120 --> 01:42:52,400
Speaker 5: but the crease was set up by Jayden Thomas motioning

1999
01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:54,720
Speaker 5: to the opposite play, to the opposite side of the

2000
01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:56,599
Speaker 5: where the play wasn't called.

2001
01:42:56,640 --> 01:42:59,559
Speaker 3: It was just a really sharp, savvy move.

2002
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 5: And I think that these might be two of the

2003
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:04,559
Speaker 5: best coach two of the smartest teams in the country.

2004
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:06,960
Speaker 5: And I think that's why the adjustments leans me to

2005
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:09,240
Speaker 5: more of a defensive mind. A game it's like a

2006
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:12,120
Speaker 5: prize fight. It's gonna be a real slow moving match,

2007
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:14,160
Speaker 5: and in that one knockout.

2008
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:15,400
Speaker 2: Blow will probably come in the second half.

2009
01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 5: But I do think this is going to be a really,

2010
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:19,440
Speaker 5: really nip and tuck game between Georgia.

2011
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Speaker 4: And Notre Dame.

2012
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 3: I do like you referring to the Irish as smart

2013
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:23,479
Speaker 3: and savvy they are.

2014
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 5: That was smart jan Thomas Man. By the way, it's

2015
01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:28,240
Speaker 5: from Georgia too, iron.

2016
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Speaker 3: Okay, let's move to the NFL. Here it is Fox

2017
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Speaker 3: Sports Radio's Countdown to Kickoff presented by BETMGM. Couple of

2018
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:37,559
Speaker 3: games that I think stand out in Week seventeen. Here,

2019
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:43,799
Speaker 3: the first one is Packers at the Vikings, and listen, earlier,

2020
01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:47,880
Speaker 3: Minnesota was a home dog. The line is flipped. Now

2021
01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:51,200
Speaker 3: Minnesota is minus a point and a half at home.

2022
01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 3: But for a little bit of time they were a

2023
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 3: home underdog, and I'm like, what what what like Minnesota?

2024
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:03,080
Speaker 3: Look at their record. This team is thirteen and two,

2025
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:06,360
Speaker 3: and for a little while they were a home underdog

2026
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:08,720
Speaker 3: against the Packers. I realized the Packers are a very

2027
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:12,160
Speaker 3: good team, understand that, But I just think it's still

2028
01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:15,519
Speaker 3: a lack of respect for the Vikings. Where you can't

2029
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:18,639
Speaker 3: just luck your way to thirteen wins. Sam Darnold hasn't

2030
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:21,559
Speaker 3: lucked his way to a really good season. He's had

2031
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:24,839
Speaker 3: a good year. If you look at him, He's fourth

2032
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:28,559
Speaker 3: in passer rating this season, fourth in the NFL. He's

2033
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:34,880
Speaker 3: had a very good thirty two touchdown passes and eleven interceptions. Yeah, yeah,

2034
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:39,640
Speaker 3: and again home underdog. That's insane to me. Maybe this

2035
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 3: Jared to your this is another one of those Vegas

2036
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:46,479
Speaker 3: nose type situations. If Green Bay won, Okay, I get it.

2037
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:49,800
Speaker 3: But the complete lack of respect for Minnesota being a

2038
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:53,800
Speaker 3: thirteen win team, and there has been some buyback on them,

2039
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:55,680
Speaker 3: Like I said, they're just minus a point and a

2040
01:44:55,720 --> 01:44:58,800
Speaker 3: half right now, but man for them to be on

2041
01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 3: the wrong side of the spread at home as a

2042
01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 3: thirteen win team, that is that's wild to me.

2043
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:08,880
Speaker 4: Here's some notes on Sam Darnold and the Minnesota Vikings.

2044
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:12,120
Speaker 4: So Donald is looking to become the first quarterback in

2045
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:16,160
Speaker 4: NFL history to win fourteen games in his first season

2046
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:17,440
Speaker 4: with a new team.

2047
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:20,040
Speaker 3: Okay, how about this Detroit.

2048
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:23,519
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, Detroit being toppled as the one

2049
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 4: seed is in play. If the Vikings sweep the Packers. Reminder,

2050
01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:33,960
Speaker 4: the Vikings already beat the Packers, so they beat him again.

2051
01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:37,599
Speaker 4: This is gonna be the first time. And who knows

2052
01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 4: how many years that brand new quarterback starting for the

2053
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:44,599
Speaker 4: Vikings has done that to Green Bay. It's I mean

2054
01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 4: the Packers, they went from Farv to Rogers to Love.

2055
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:55,360
Speaker 4: Now the Vikings went from Cousins to JJ to Donald.

2056
01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 4: I mean, like over the shorter period of time I realized,

2057
01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:00,800
Speaker 4: but like, you look at the Vikings and it's been

2058
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 4: kind of it's been kind of a rough ride in

2059
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:05,599
Speaker 4: terms of how they've gotten here, but they've it's been

2060
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:09,679
Speaker 4: smooth sailing. Outside of the mid season downturn that Donald

2061
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:12,120
Speaker 4: had where he was turning the ball over a little bit,

2062
01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 4: He's recovered well. Over the last six games. He has

2063
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:20,960
Speaker 4: fifteen touchdowns to one interception. He's playing like an MVP,

2064
01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:24,479
Speaker 4: and nobody wants him to win the award because there's

2065
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:27,880
Speaker 4: a player like Josh Allen running around like a moose

2066
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:32,040
Speaker 4: and shoulder pads. If it weren't for him, though, that's great.

2067
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:35,000
Speaker 4: If it weren't, I mean, a guy's at all weather player.

2068
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:36,960
Speaker 4: But if it weren't for him, I mean, I do

2069
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 4: think there would be more hype around Donald because he's

2070
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 4: recovered so well this season. I really love the way

2071
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:45,720
Speaker 4: he's playing. I love the way Kevin O'Connell coaches. His

2072
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:49,599
Speaker 4: third year now in Minnesota, he has he has made

2073
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 4: believers out of that locker room. They have a ton

2074
01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:55,919
Speaker 4: to play for in this one. I love the Vikings.

2075
01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:57,640
Speaker 4: I love the way Donald's playing.

2076
01:46:58,640 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 5: Moose valuable Player or most valuable Moose. I mean, there's

2077
01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:05,720
Speaker 5: so many ways you could take that one.

2078
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2079
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:08,960
Speaker 5: So the Vikings are definitely coming off of a Gayzy win,

2080
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:12,559
Speaker 5: There's no doubt about that. Usually when you lose the

2081
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:15,639
Speaker 5: yards per play battle six point zero to four point eight,

2082
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:18,720
Speaker 5: you're against Seattle, you don't win the football game. When

2083
01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:20,799
Speaker 5: you lose the yards per play battle in the NFL

2084
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:24,000
Speaker 5: by more than a yard per play. Think about how

2085
01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:26,600
Speaker 5: many plays there are in a football game. It just

2086
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:29,120
Speaker 5: it usually doesn't end well for your team. But that's

2087
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 5: that's the magic of Minnesota. Remember we saw this a

2088
01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:33,519
Speaker 5: couple of years ago. I think it was in twenty two,

2089
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:36,799
Speaker 5: the year that they lost to the Giants the Daniel

2090
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 5: Jones game in the playoffs, and it just I don't

2091
01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:44,559
Speaker 5: know how it's gonna end for Minnesota. But yeah, a

2092
01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:48,600
Speaker 5: thirteen win team that is hosting a divisional game to

2093
01:47:48,680 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 5: a team below them in the standings. Typically those teams

2094
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:55,360
Speaker 5: are favored by a field goal or more. Especially Minnesota's

2095
01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:58,080
Speaker 5: got a great home field advantage. But it goes to

2096
01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 5: show you where the ratings and when I say the ratings,

2097
01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 5: I mean you know the professional people who bet this

2098
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 5: every day. It shows you how high they view the Packers.

2099
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:09,960
Speaker 5: And I think there's a lot of people I talk

2100
01:48:10,040 --> 01:48:11,720
Speaker 5: to and work with here in town that if you

2101
01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:14,160
Speaker 5: were to line up the three teams in the NFC

2102
01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:18,439
Speaker 5: North Packers lines and Vikings, they might have green Bay's

2103
01:48:18,439 --> 01:48:20,280
Speaker 5: the number one team on their list, and they're not

2104
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:22,479
Speaker 5: number one in the standings. And guess what, they ain't

2105
01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:25,879
Speaker 5: number two either. So it just shows you maybe recency

2106
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 5: bias a little bit with green Bay.

2107
01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:28,320
Speaker 3: They've looked better lately.

2108
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:32,559
Speaker 5: But I think overall, big picture, the number the market,

2109
01:48:32,640 --> 01:48:34,320
Speaker 5: they tend to trust Jordan.

2110
01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:36,479
Speaker 3: Love and la Floor a little bit more than O'Connell

2111
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:39,759
Speaker 3: and Darnold. Yeah, no, it's it's pretty wild.

2112
01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:40,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2113
01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 3: A lot of it comes back to comfort. Do you

2114
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:47,040
Speaker 3: feel comfortable backing a Sam Donald led team or do

2115
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:50,120
Speaker 3: you feel more comfortable backing a Jordan Love led team.

2116
01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:53,200
Speaker 3: More people would side with the Packers there, And I

2117
01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:55,200
Speaker 3: get it. That doesn't mean it's gonna be the right side,

2118
01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:57,439
Speaker 3: you know. So it's something that you have to keep

2119
01:48:57,479 --> 01:49:00,160
Speaker 3: in mind. One other game that caught my attention and

2120
01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:04,040
Speaker 3: Monday night football, the Lions at the forty nine Ers.

2121
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:05,960
Speaker 3: And you might say this is not a great match

2122
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:07,640
Speaker 3: of the Niners are six and nine and out of

2123
01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 3: the playoffs. It's interesting to me from this perspective, what

2124
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:15,160
Speaker 3: a difference one year makes. Think about this. This was

2125
01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:20,760
Speaker 3: last season the NFC Championship game matchup, and the Lions

2126
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:25,360
Speaker 3: were leading and then Dan Campbell went Dan one, eight

2127
01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:28,760
Speaker 3: hundred gambler Campbell and it didn't work out right, a

2128
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:31,080
Speaker 3: couple of let's not kick the field goal, let's go

2129
01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:32,920
Speaker 3: for it. It didn't work out for the Lions, but it

2130
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:36,439
Speaker 3: was a close ballgame could have gone either way. And

2131
01:49:36,520 --> 01:49:39,400
Speaker 3: now look at these teams. Look at the Lions, who

2132
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:43,479
Speaker 3: most people feel are probably the best team in football,

2133
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:46,920
Speaker 3: the injuries. If not for the injuries, I think it

2134
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:50,160
Speaker 3: would be a consensus the Lions have the best roster.

2135
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:52,679
Speaker 3: They're probably the team to beat, certainly in the NFC,

2136
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Speaker 3: maybe the entire NFL. The injuries changed the equation. But

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01:49:58,880 --> 01:50:02,879
Speaker 3: look at where the nine one year where the Niners

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Speaker 3: were on the doorstep of winning a Super Bowl, had

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Speaker 3: a lead in the overtime of the Super Bowl against Mahomes,

2140
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:12,320
Speaker 3: couldn't get it done. And now they're three games under

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Speaker 3: five hundred, while the Lions are thirteen and two. It's

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Speaker 3: amazing that's where these two teams are one year later.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, you know, Detroit, they play this game with

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01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:26,360
Speaker 4: a fully healthy offensive line unit. So while they've been

2145
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:30,719
Speaker 4: banged up in some other spots, they're getting healthier in others.

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01:50:31,439 --> 01:50:34,880
Speaker 4: I look at that being as a key to their

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Speaker 4: success and foundational to their success throughout this rebuild in

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Speaker 4: Detroit is strong play in the trenches. And so if

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Speaker 4: they get healthier in the right spots, and I think

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Speaker 4: that's one of the most major spots. There are some

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01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:53,680
Speaker 4: lofty expectations on this unit up front, but they I

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01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:56,559
Speaker 4: think have done a great job in the run game,

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01:50:57,040 --> 01:51:00,320
Speaker 4: less so in pass protection. Goff had gone through trough

2154
01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:02,280
Speaker 4: during the season where he's getting hit too much. He's

2155
01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:05,360
Speaker 4: been hit too much this season, So this unit could

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01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:07,960
Speaker 4: do a better job there, and you look at the

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Speaker 4: forty nine ers. It it's been such a haphazard season

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Speaker 4: for them because all of a sudden, Brock Purdy has

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Speaker 4: really been tested. And I think you look at him

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01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:23,920
Speaker 4: and you say, did he pass the test? And the

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01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:26,800
Speaker 4: answer is no. I mean, I hate to say it

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01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:29,439
Speaker 4: because I like the guy. I mean, I don't know him.

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01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:33,160
Speaker 4: I don't know him personally, but from a personality standpoint,

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01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:36,280
Speaker 4: everything I've seen, the way he talks, the way he prepares,

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Speaker 4: the type of person he is, I love him. But

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Speaker 4: I hate that he showed up this season where it

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01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:46,920
Speaker 4: wasn't perfect, where I U keld out and his left

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Speaker 4: tackle held out, and there were personal issues across the

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Speaker 4: entire team from Ricky Pearson and the injury he faced

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Speaker 4: this offseason with the gunshot wound, and the time that

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01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:02,880
Speaker 4: several key playmakers have had a takeaway from the team

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01:52:03,200 --> 01:52:07,240
Speaker 4: because of family situations that were awful, and and really,

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01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:10,200
Speaker 4: when you're a great quarterback, you booie a roster with

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Speaker 4: your talent. That has not been the case with the

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Speaker 4: forty nine ers. So I think this is going to

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01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:19,799
Speaker 4: be a season that raises more question marks than answers

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Speaker 4: questions for them in terms of their future roster construction.

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Speaker 4: And and you know, I mean, if there's a side

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Speaker 4: to like in this game, it's Detroit because they're playing

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01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:32,680
Speaker 4: for everything. The Niners, I really think, have failed to

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01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:35,920
Speaker 4: meet all expectations this season, and especially at the most

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Speaker 4: important position on the football field.

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Speaker 3: So we usually do tuddy time.

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Speaker 5: Here's trivia time timead trivia time. The last team to

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01:52:48,760 --> 01:52:51,880
Speaker 5: make the Super Bowl, lose the Super Bowl, super Bowl

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01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:55,439
Speaker 5: runner up, and then miss the playoffs the following year.

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Speaker 5: Any you guys know that answer? Okay, so runner up,

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01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:01,960
Speaker 5: super Bowl runner up, and then the next year they

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01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:06,559
Speaker 5: missed the playoffs completely. This year's Niners are that. I

2190
01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:08,280
Speaker 5: don't know, you remember the last time I did it.

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Speaker 3: I would imagine Carolina, remember, like they lost to the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: But I would imagine We've had a couple of teams

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01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:15,320
Speaker 3: since then.

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01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:20,080
Speaker 4: Atlanta Atlanta after they lost the Super Bowl the Patriots.

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01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:20,960
Speaker 3: So those teams might have done it.

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Speaker 5: But more recently, the twenty twenty nine Ers after they

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Speaker 5: lost to the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, So.

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Speaker 5: That's the second straight cycle where we've seen a Super

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01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:35,240
Speaker 5: Bowl runner up. It has happened prior times before that.

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Speaker 5: You guys might be right. I haven't looked at those,

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01:53:37,280 --> 01:53:40,800
Speaker 5: but the last time it happened was the Niners again,

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01:53:40,960 --> 01:53:42,000
Speaker 5: So it's just history.

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01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:46,960
Speaker 3: Forget history, you're doom to repeat it. Wow, briefly kind

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Speaker 3: of interesting. What both teams do the games that we

2206
01:53:49,400 --> 01:53:52,200
Speaker 3: mentioned at quarterback? What do the Vikings do with Sam Darnold?

2207
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:54,840
Speaker 3: What do you do extend? What do the Niners do

2208
01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:57,280
Speaker 3: with Purty? You back up the brinks truck after what

2209
01:53:57,360 --> 01:54:00,160
Speaker 3: you saw this season down a couple of weapons. That's

2210
01:54:00,160 --> 01:54:03,080
Speaker 3: gonna happen when you have to skim. Yeah, you pay

2211
01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:05,799
Speaker 3: him that much. You pay him fifty five million. That's

2212
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:09,280
Speaker 3: what he's gonna be surrounded by. You gotta skimp. So

2213
01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:12,000
Speaker 3: good luck with that as all I have to.

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01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:14,280
Speaker 4: Hey, well tell him you'll pay for the toyotas he

2215
01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:15,639
Speaker 4: gifted to the offensive line.

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01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:16,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then there you go.

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Speaker 4: Help to stick around.

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Speaker 3: of the year shout out to Elijah who's helped us

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Speaker 3: as well, Right, Jared, so shout out to him up

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Speaker 3: out of Plexico, Burris. They've got you covered in less

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Speaker 3: than ten minutes. All right, we've got some picks to make.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Rapid fire.

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Speaker 3: All right, Sjared, we start with you.

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Speaker 4: What do you like?

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01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:07,600
Speaker 5: Well, you're gonna have to wait a few days for these,

2252
01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:09,040
Speaker 5: but I'm giving you picks for the CFP.

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01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:09,400
Speaker 4: I want.

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01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:11,800
Speaker 5: I want to get myself out there with these opinions.

2255
01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:14,200
Speaker 5: And let's be honest, a lot of these bowl games

2256
01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:17,080
Speaker 5: they're crapshoots. Let's get you the main course. We'll start

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01:56:17,080 --> 01:56:18,960
Speaker 5: with the Fiesta Bowl. I'm going over fifty two and

2258
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:21,520
Speaker 5: a half penn State and Boise Drew Aller only needed

2259
01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:25,120
Speaker 5: twenty two passing attempts against SMU. Multiple pick six is

2260
01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:27,600
Speaker 5: obviously helped in that game. Andy Kolta, Niki the offensive

2261
01:56:27,640 --> 01:56:31,480
Speaker 5: coordinator got to keep the top shelf calls in the bag.

2262
01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:33,800
Speaker 5: He put him on ice for New Years and now

2263
01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:35,120
Speaker 5: we're gonna whip him out in this game.

2264
01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:36,680
Speaker 3: And let's be honest, you're gonna watch this game.

2265
01:56:36,720 --> 01:56:39,400
Speaker 5: And you're gonna think it's junior varsity against the varsity

2266
01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:42,280
Speaker 5: against the jv sometimes with Ashton Genty, he's gonna get

2267
01:56:42,280 --> 01:56:44,200
Speaker 5: his in his game, and I think Penn State's offense

2268
01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:46,520
Speaker 5: is gonna roll as well. Over fifty two and a half.

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01:56:46,640 --> 01:56:48,720
Speaker 5: I'm going Ohio State minus two and a half. In

2270
01:56:48,760 --> 01:56:51,040
Speaker 5: the Rose Bowl against Oregon, obviously the revenge game from

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01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:51,840
Speaker 5: earlier this year.

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01:56:52,040 --> 01:56:54,400
Speaker 2: If Drew Aller with subpar weapons can throw three.

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01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:57,440
Speaker 5: Touchdowns against this Oregon secondary, what do you think Will

2274
01:56:57,480 --> 01:56:59,920
Speaker 5: Howard can do with Jeremiah Smith and Agbucha and Tate

2275
01:57:00,360 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 5: and the number one seed, the undefeated organ Ducks are

2276
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:05,240
Speaker 5: an underdog in this game. The market is screaming at

2277
01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:07,480
Speaker 5: you to bet the buck, guys, So I will do it.

2278
01:57:07,560 --> 01:57:09,280
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna go under forty four and a half.

2279
01:57:09,320 --> 01:57:11,240
Speaker 5: In the Sugar Bowl between Notre Dame and Georgia, this

2280
01:57:11,320 --> 01:57:14,040
Speaker 5: is a tempo game. I do think Rythy Mills injury

2281
01:57:14,200 --> 01:57:16,280
Speaker 5: is big, but if anything, that means George is gonna

2282
01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:17,600
Speaker 5: lean more on the run.

2283
01:57:17,680 --> 01:57:19,720
Speaker 2: And I think you're gonna see a lot.

2284
01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:22,640
Speaker 5: Of heavyweight knockout blows in the first half. And we're

2285
01:57:22,680 --> 01:57:24,520
Speaker 5: gonna see a lot of running in this game, so

2286
01:57:24,680 --> 01:57:26,520
Speaker 5: under forty four and a half Notre Dame, Georgia.

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01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:30,280
Speaker 4: In true countdown to kickoff fashion, I'm counting down to

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01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:33,320
Speaker 4: kickoffs in the NFL. So here we go. We have

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01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:36,200
Speaker 4: a Saturday slate. We have three games. I'm taking aside

2290
01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:38,760
Speaker 4: in each one of these. Foxbrough used to be a

2291
01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:42,520
Speaker 4: tough place to play. It isn't anymore. The Patriots have

2292
01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:46,000
Speaker 4: a one in five home record. The Chargers are on

2293
01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:48,680
Speaker 4: the road in New England. I'm laying the point six

2294
01:57:48,760 --> 01:57:55,720
Speaker 4: points on the Chargers side. Denver visiting Cincinnati Broncos plus

2295
01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:59,200
Speaker 4: three and a half. I'll take it. Yeah, I mean

2296
01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:03,400
Speaker 4: I like them better. I think that Bengals defense is horrific.

2297
01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:06,760
Speaker 4: If it weren't for Jayden Daniels, then it would be

2298
01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:10,480
Speaker 4: bon Nick's Rookie of the Year. So give me the Broncos.

2299
01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:12,800
Speaker 4: They are like the spot for them. And then the

2300
01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:16,560
Speaker 4: Arizona Cardinals. They're getting six and a half. I'm taking

2301
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:19,440
Speaker 4: the six and a half against the Rams. They're in LA,

2302
01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:23,320
Speaker 4: not a difficult place to play. Cardinals just got knocked

2303
01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:27,280
Speaker 4: out of playoff contention by whom the Panthers in overtime

2304
01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:31,080
Speaker 4: last last weekend not great. But here's the thing. The

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01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:34,040
Speaker 4: Cardinals beat the cheese out of the Rams. They could

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01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:37,160
Speaker 4: get the series sweep against them, and I think they

2307
01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:39,880
Speaker 4: potentially can. They're gonna give them all they can handle.

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01:58:40,040 --> 01:58:42,000
Speaker 4: I got the Cardinals. I'll take the six and a

2309
01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 4: half points.

2310
01:58:42,680 --> 01:58:45,560
Speaker 3: All right, you gas bags, I got ten seconds thanks

2311
01:58:45,520 --> 01:58:45,760
Speaker 3: to you.

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01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:48,440
Speaker 4: Guess year. I didn't go that. Sorry.

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01:58:48,760 --> 01:58:51,800
Speaker 3: Give me a Notre Dame Georgia. I'll take under twenty

2314
01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:54,400
Speaker 3: one and a half in the first half. Got a

2315
01:58:54,400 --> 01:58:58,200
Speaker 3: backup quarterback. I think it's gonna be a very low

2316
01:58:58,240 --> 01:59:01,200
Speaker 3: scoring first half. Hopefully not games leading twenty one nothing,

2317
01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:04,560
Speaker 3: that'd be perfect. Give me over in the Ohio State

2318
01:59:04,640 --> 01:59:06,800
Speaker 3: Oregon game. Give me over fifty five and a half

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01:59:07,560 --> 01:59:13,040
Speaker 3: and let's triple down legohnta wester box receiver. Touchdown, touchdown.

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Speaker 4: Whoa