1 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: Look to the folks at Farm Bureau Health Plans when 3 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: you need someone who understands the x's and oh's of 4 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: healthcare coverage. They've been protecting Tennessee in since nineteen forty seven. 5 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm Mike Keith, and I want to thank Amy Wells 6 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: for allowing me to do this because it gives me 7 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: a chance to do two things. First, share some great stories, 8 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: largely from coach Dave McGinnis. At second, to talk about 9 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: an organization that has made and is making a difference 10 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: in this world. I'm talking about the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society, 11 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: better known as l LS. The mission of LLS is 12 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: to cure leukemia, lymphoma, Hodgkin's disease, and my looma and 13 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: improve quality of life of patients and their families. LS 14 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: exists to find cures and ensure access to treatments for 15 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: blood cancer patients. That's quote. But taking it further, what 16 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: I've seen is even deeper, and that is it's working. 17 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: I lost a friend of leukemia in nineteen seventy four 18 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: when we were both in first grade. Today, with progress 19 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: that has been made, in the field, he would have 20 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: beaten it. Those are the advances that LS has helped 21 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: to make possible. We've won battles against blood cancer. Now 22 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: it's time to win the war. LS does various fundraising 23 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: events around their annual Man Woman of the Year competition, 24 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: and recently they asked coach Dave McGinnis and me to 25 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: join my friend Mickey Ryan for sports stories. The LS 26 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: folks and Amy Wells have given me permission to share 27 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: some of the audio for this OTP as we begin. 28 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: Two things. First, if you'd be so kind to donate, 29 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: go to bit dot l y slash l l s 30 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: live stream. That's bit b i dot l y slash 31 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: l l s live stream. And for the second part, 32 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: here's how we get started. Our conversation begins with Dave 33 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: McGinnis telling a story about getting hired by Mike Ditka 34 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: and the Chicago Bears in nineteen eighty six. My job 35 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: simply to set up coach Mac. All right, let me 36 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: set it up coaching. Then I want you to take it. Okay, So, 37 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: so coach Mac was a star player at Texas Christian TCU, 38 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: and then he goes into college coaching, and you worked 39 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: your way take us through where you were. I know 40 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: you were at Indiana State. Where were you first I started? 41 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: I started at TCU as a GA and then work 42 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: at the University of Missouri for three years and then 43 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: went then I went to Indiana State and then back 44 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: to TCU and then to Kansas State. Now pick it up, 45 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: all right, all right, so you're at Kansas State, you're 46 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: the secondary coach. Well, you know, I was kind of 47 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: a quasi defensive coordinator, but we didn't it's not what 48 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: like it is now in college staffs. We only had 49 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: six guys on the staff. So why coached you inside 50 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: and the outside linebackers? Did you think you were close 51 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: to being a college head coach at that point? I 52 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: had had some inquiries, Mike. I had had some inquiries, 53 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: and it was you know, that's I mean, I didn't 54 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: ever intend to be, but the way that I the 55 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: way that I advanced myself in college football to be, 56 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: you know, God's honest truth here with with everybody listening, 57 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: and I'll always be honest with you. I was a 58 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: really good recruiter, you know. I was a good recruiter 59 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: and could get good players to come. And you have 60 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: to be a good recruiter to get players to come 61 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: to Manhattan, Kansas, you know, and so I would, I would, 62 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: you know, And I recruited everywhere. They put me on 63 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: the they put me on the road, you know, all 64 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: of the universities did, and you know, and when they 65 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: got there, I mean, they absolutely loved it. But anyway, 66 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: so yes, I'd had some inquiries already. All right. So 67 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: you finished at nineteen eight, nineteen eighty five, at Kansas State. 68 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: The Chicago Bears are on their way to winning Super 69 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: Bowl twenty, the famous Super Bowl Shuffle Bears their only 70 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: Super Bowl championship. The first part of nineteen eighty six 71 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: comes around and you here from the Chicago Bears. Yeah. Well, 72 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: I had been recruiting in Dallas, and in fact, I 73 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: was recruiting in Dallas with Kevin Steele. You know, Kevin 74 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: Steele at the time was working at Oklahoma State, who's 75 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: now Kevin's now the defensive coordinator Auburn. So we're you know, 76 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: we're very good friends. And I was recruiting down there 77 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: and one night, you know, we were setting up some 78 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: places that we were getting ready to go. We had 79 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: different schools that we were going to in the phone 80 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: rings and it's it's Vince Tobin. Well, Vince Toben I 81 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: had worked with at the University of Missouri and he 82 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: had since he had been he had left Missouri as 83 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator, had gone to the BC Lions in Canada, 84 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: and then had worked as a defensive coordinator for three 85 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: seasons in the USFL for Jim Mora. Well, Jim Mora 86 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: had just gotten the head job at New Orleans after 87 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: you know, the Philadelphia slashed Baltimore Stars had won the 88 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: USFL championship, and so Vince Tobin was going down there 89 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: as a defensive coordinator to New Orleans with with you know, 90 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: he was gonna go down there. He was gonna go 91 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: down there and work U and he was going to 92 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: he was there in New Orleans. So when the phone 93 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: rang and it was Vince Tobin. Uh, Vic Fangio was 94 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: on Vince Toben's staff. Then you know a lot of 95 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: guys that have coached in the league for a long time. 96 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that staff with Jim Morra put out a 97 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: lot of coaches. But anyway, the phone rings and it's 98 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: it's it's Vince Tobin. He says, he said, Uh, what 99 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: are you doing? And I said, well, I'm in Dallas recruiting. 100 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: I said, what are you doing? He said, look, how 101 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: would you how would you like to interview for a 102 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: job with the Bears. Well, now think of this what 103 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: I just told you. He's supposed to be in New 104 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: Orleans because he's accepted the job to go to the 105 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints. And I said, Baylor. I said, I've 106 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: got a better job deal right here. I said, why 107 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: would I want to interview at Baylor? He said, no, 108 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bear. And I mean, I said, what are 109 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: you talking about? He said, I'll explain it to you. 110 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: When's the earliest you can get on an airplane? I 111 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: said about two hours ago. And so you know, I 112 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: flew up to O'Hare and they picked me up. And 113 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: the next thing I know, I'm sitting in Mike Ditka's office. 114 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: He had a linebacker job open. Buddy Ryan had left, 115 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: He and Jeff Fisher had left to go to the 116 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles after they had won the Super Bowl. And 117 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: so Buddy Ryan when he was there, he had been 118 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator and the linebacker coach. They only had 119 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: six coaches on the staff, all right, and so wow, 120 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: and so yeah, exactly. Wow. And so then Mike Ditka 121 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: had hired Vince Tobin to replace Buddy Ryant because he 122 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: loved the things that he did with Jim Mora. You know, 123 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: Vince Toben was very innovative. If any of our listeners 124 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: will remember the late great Jim Johnson, you know, the 125 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator for a long time there at the Eagles. 126 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: He got most of his stuff from Vince Toben, and 127 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: Vic Fangio was on that staff, so he's got a 128 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: pretty good defensive tree. But anyway, Mike Dicka hires him, 129 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: and I didn't know any of this. I mean, I'm 130 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: down in Dallas trying to recruit for the Kansas State Wildcats, 131 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: and so you know, he brings me in. He's bringing 132 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: five guys into the interview, and I'm the only one 133 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: that doesn't have any experience, you know, in the NFL. 134 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: And so I figured, well, this will be great experience 135 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: at least an interview with Mike Dicka and the world 136 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: champion Chicago Bears. And so, you know, I go in 137 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: there and not being smart enough, you know, to be 138 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: to be scared, you know, I go in and sit 139 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: down with Dicka and he starts to interview me, and 140 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: he says, just tell me, kid, why do you want 141 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: this job? And I said, well, I mean it's right now, 142 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: it's the it's the greatest team, you know, in the world. 143 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: I said, you're the world's champion. And I said, I 144 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: would just I said, I'm not saying that I'm going 145 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: to bring anything just magnificent as far as scheme wise, 146 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: but I'm willing to learn anything. But I just, I mean, 147 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: I just want to thank you, coach, for the opportunity 148 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: to be here. So we talked football a little bit 149 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: and talk philosophy, and I just, you know what, was 150 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: talking like I always do. You know, I was just 151 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: talking with him this and when he said, look, why 152 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: don't you go back and uh and and and spend 153 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: the night with you know, spend the night here because 154 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: you know it's late, and then uh, you know, I'll 155 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: talk to coach Toben and then you know, we'll make 156 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: We've got some other guys here and we'll make a decision. 157 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: And I thought, great, I mean, I just love the 158 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: chance to interview with him. Well, the next day, after breakfast, 159 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 1: you know, we come back to Bence Toban's office and 160 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: and uh, Mike dick as secretary comes to the door. 161 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: I think that she's bringing me my return flight, you know, 162 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: so that I can get out of there, because you know, 163 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: I'm here reviewed And I thought, you know, this was fun. 164 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: And she said, Coach Dickon would like to see you. 165 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: And I went okay. And so I go in there 166 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: and shut the door. And he said, kid, you want 167 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: this job? And I said yes, sir, he said, it's yours. 168 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: Remember remember this, You're the coach, they're the players. I'll 169 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: always have your back. Now go to work. That's it. 170 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: What does that job paid at that point, if you 171 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: don't mind, make five thousand dollars a year? Fifty five 172 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year I was making. I was making 173 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars a year at Kansas State. I was 174 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: want of the hi highest, one of the higher paid 175 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: assistant coaches there in the big aid there at the time. 176 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: You know, I was making fifty thousand dollars a year 177 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: there at Kansas State. And he said, how's fifty five 178 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: thousand sound? I said, perfect, you know, I mean, that's 179 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: exactly what I want to coach. You know that that's 180 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: exactly that's exactly what I wanted. And then he said, okay, 181 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: so you know, you guys need to put your playbook 182 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: and stuff together and he and then he said, oh, 183 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: by the way, we're getting ready to have you know, 184 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: as after the draft, we're going to have the Super 185 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: Bowl ring ceremony and I want you to be there. 186 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: And I said, well, thank you, coach. I'd love to 187 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: be there. I didn't have anything to do with that 188 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: Super Bowl team, but I'd love to be there. And 189 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: he said, I'll want you to hand the rings out 190 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: to the linebackers and I went, okay, I'll do that too. 191 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: It was it looked that was the beginning of a 192 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: camelot experience. Uh. Mike Dicka was one of the best 193 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: human beings in the world. I mean the persona that 194 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: people see out there. He had. He had the biggest 195 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: heart and still does it. Did so many things for 196 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: so many people. But there was a side to Mike 197 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: Dicka that you didn't want to get. On the other 198 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: side of Mike Dicka. I promise you that I'll give 199 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: you another story because at eighty six we go fourteen 200 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: and two break the records defensively that the that the 201 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: eighty five Bears had you know, those players were marvelous. 202 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: You know, I'll go over it. You know, in my 203 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: coaching career, think about this. In my coaching career, I've 204 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: should have been involved with eight NFL Hall of Famers. 205 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: Now in my NFL coaching career, eight of them, five 206 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: of them were off of that Bears team. Five of 207 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: them were off of that Bears team, all right, and 208 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: the other you know, and the other three you know, 209 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: we're Aeneas Williams and of course Kevin mawhy h and 210 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: Emmett Smith, all right, but the five were on that 211 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: Bears team. And the thing that is so important about that, 212 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: to know his is that the whole time we were 213 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: up there, you never even realized, you know how you 214 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: never realized what's something, how great something really is when 215 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: you're involved in it. And then the older you get, 216 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: when you step back and you look at it, you 217 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: say wow. Anyway, we go fourteen and two, get beat 218 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: by Washington in the in the first round of the playoffs, 219 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: which was it was devastated. Uh. You know Ron Rivera, 220 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: who was one of my linebackers coach for me, uh, 221 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, was playing. And Ron never likes for me 222 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: to tell this story, but he but he missed a 223 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: tackle on Darryl Green on a punt return that went 224 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: for a touchdown. H It didn't cause us to get beat, 225 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: but it was one of the warshion that was having 226 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: a hard time scoring on that defense. Anyway, So we're 227 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: getting ready the next year, and the Bears team is 228 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: even going to be better. And we start off four 229 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: and oh in nineteen eighty seven, and then the strike hits. 230 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: Then we have a strike. The strike hits, and so 231 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: now everybody's out. That great Bears team that started off 232 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: four and oh, we're out. We're on strike. And so 233 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: as coaches, you know, this is my second year in 234 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: the league, my first year in the league, mack in 235 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: for everybody watching, I thought, what's so hard about the 236 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: National Football League? I mean, we're the number one defense 237 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: in the league. We're fourteen to two. I mean, I'm 238 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: really a great coach. And that offseason, Look, I came 239 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: in there knowing zero squad. If everybody closes their eyes 240 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: and tell me what they see, that's how much NFL 241 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: football I knew going in there. After that, after that season, 242 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: I'm lecturing all over the country on linebacker play like 243 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: I'm some young guru. Now, okay, and it's all because 244 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: of the players that I had and that we had 245 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: on that team. So anyway, now we're wondering, Well, now 246 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: the league decides they're going to bring in replacement players 247 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: and they're going to play games that are going to 248 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: count on your record. All right, So we go through 249 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: the process now of putting together the spare Bears. All right, 250 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: So we start. We start with the spare Bears, and 251 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 1: with the spare Bears because I had just come from 252 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: college and had known a lot of these kids, you know, 253 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: because I'd recruited a lot of them plays, you know, 254 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: So I'm involved in trying to get some spare Bears 255 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: in there. You know, Bill Tobin's in charge of our personnel. 256 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: So we do a great job of bringing some players 257 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: in that might be able to do us some good. Okay, 258 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 1: long story short, we got three games to play. We 259 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: go two and one. We go two and one, and 260 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: so they've done a great job of maintaining the lead, 261 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: uh you know, in the in the NFC, uh you know, 262 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: for for our division. Then at the time, done a 263 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: great job. All right. The last game we played, we 264 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: play against New Orleans. They have a bunch of guys 265 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: crossed the line. They crossed the strike line. We had 266 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: a quarterback named Mike Hohensee. That was a smart dude 267 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: because he figured out when he saw how any New 268 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: Orleans defenders had crossed the line, he all of a 269 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: sudden developed a knee problem the day of the game. 270 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: The day of the game, okay, And so our quarterback 271 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: that played that game for us was Sean Payton. Pay 272 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: you know, Sean Payton played quarterback for us, you know 273 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: that day, all right, And so anyway we get we 274 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: get through with that of the strike. Then now the 275 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: strike's over. Now the players are coming back. There's a 276 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: lot of hard feelings around the league. They're certainly hard 277 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: feelings there, you know, with the Bears in Chicago, because 278 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: the Bears were the team, you know, and Mike could 279 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: ask him, look, if you guys will just you know, 280 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: say you're coming back in the rest of the league, 281 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: will follow your wealth. You know, they didn't do that. 282 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: So anyway, we have a team meeting, big team meeting. 283 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: Dickon gets up there and says, look, all right, no 284 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: hard feelings, everything's behind us. But there's something I want 285 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: you guys to do. We've got about four players that 286 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: played for us on these replacement teams that I think 287 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: can help us going forward. But in good faith, I 288 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: want you guys to vote on it, and I want 289 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: you guys to vote whether these four players can stay 290 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: with us this year. I'm going to leave the room. 291 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: The coaches are going to leave the room, all right, 292 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: Dan Hampton, you and Mike's Singletary come get us when 293 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: you're done. And so we go. The coaches we go 294 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: out of We're in the old House hall. The meeting's 295 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: rooms are in the basement. The coach's officers are upstairs. 296 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: About twenty minutes later, you know, Mike Singletary comes up says, coach, 297 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: we're ready. So all of us, all the coaches come down. 298 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: We've only got seven coaches on the staff, okay, seven 299 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: assistant coaches and Mike Dicka. So we come down and 300 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: we all sit down the rooms real quiet. Mike gets up, 301 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: he's got a big wooden podium that he's standing on 302 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: and says, all right, what's the verdict. And so Mike 303 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: Singletary stands up and says, coach, we voted, and we 304 00:15:54,000 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: all vote no, And so Dicker goes, okay, you vote know, 305 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: is that right? Dan? You know, Dan Hampton, is that right? Mongo, 306 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: Steve McMichael, is that right? You know, Jim McMahon, Is 307 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: that right? Walter? No, everybody nods her head. No, he said, Okay, 308 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: I understand. That's good, he said, and then as loud 309 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: as he could, well, I vote yes. He slams that podium, 310 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: cracks the wooden podium, and said, God, meet with your coaches. 311 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: Meeting over. Coach, I got one question, Coach Mack, tell 312 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: again what Mike did too used to call you in 313 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six kid? In twenty twenty, what is Mike 314 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: did could call you? Kid? Thank you? I'm gonna tell you. 315 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why. And I didn't know because 316 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: but you know, I was. I'm very close to that 317 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: Bears organization, the McCaskey family. I've got great respect for 318 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: and and and I asked one time, I said, I 319 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: asked somebody that had been there a long time with 320 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: the Bears, you know, I said, why does coach call kid? 321 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: He said, that's what George Hollis used to call him. 322 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: Nice and so most of the young I mean, look, 323 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: Mike Dicka, I owe so much to Mike Dickon. He 324 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: and his wife Diana were so good to me. I mean, 325 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: it launched my career. But I can tell I can 326 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: tell Mike Dickas stories forever and ever and ever, and 327 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: I will always be indebted to Mike Dicka, Bench Tobin 328 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: and the Chicago Bears for everything good that's happened to 329 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: Coach Mack in his coaching career. That was a great story, 330 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: but there were a lot more. Let's go to somebody 331 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: that Dave McGinnis and I have in common in our careers, 332 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: very important to both of us. I'm talking about Jeff Fisher. 333 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: I worked with Jeff for my first thirteen years with 334 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,239 Speaker 1: the Titans, from nineteen ninety eight through twenty ten. He 335 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: was incredibly good to me. Coach Mike spent eight years 336 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: with Jeff here in Nashville, and then they were together 337 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: for Jeff Fisher's entire tenure. With the rams between the 338 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: two of us, Coach Mack and I could do several 339 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: hours of Jeff Fisher's stories, but we settled on just 340 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: a few, all of them humorous in nature. We started 341 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: with one that was actually requested, a story about Jeff 342 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: Fisher and a coin flip that got everyone's attention. Well, 343 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: the one that I know about is the one that 344 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: coach Mack and he were involved in when they were 345 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: I guess you were still in Saint Louis at this point, Yes, 346 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: and you were playing against Washington, and you had traded 347 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: the number two pick in the draft to Washington so 348 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: they could select RG three, Robert Griffin the third. Yes, 349 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: and you got and you got four or five high 350 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 1: selections picks, say, okay, six picks in that and of 351 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: course RG three, I'm still in the league. He's in Baltimore, ironically, 352 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: and he's you know he I mean, guy's a pro. 353 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's done well, he's still in the NFL. 354 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: He did not turn out to be Washington savior like 355 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: they hoped he would be, and Washington sort of took 356 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: him grief after the fact for making this big trade. 357 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: And coach Fisher, who loves a good prank, loves a 358 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: good ruse, loves to kind of tweak, kind of picked 359 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: it up from there, didn't he, Coach. Yeah, it was 360 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: at Washington, which is a key element to this story. 361 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: It was at Washington, and so before the ballgame, you know, 362 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: of course, I've been with Jeff Fisher for a long 363 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: long time and ever since I've been with him, I've 364 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: been as assistant head coach. And so before the game, 365 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,959 Speaker 1: the head coach has a room by himself and then 366 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: the assistants are in the other room. But always before, 367 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: you know, before he would meet with the officials, he 368 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: would always call meets and Matt come on in here, 369 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: and you know, we'd go in there and discuss, you know, 370 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: the thing the things that he was going to discuss 371 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: with the officials. He already had all that out, you know, 372 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: and so you just you know kind of what we did. 373 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,479 Speaker 1: And so I come in the room and I think 374 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm getting ready to get you know, the officials talk 375 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: and what he's going to talk to him about or 376 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: you know, and he says, uh, what do you think 377 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: about this idea? Well, now you gotta understand this is 378 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: this is this is this is after we've come in 379 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: from pregame warm up. Okay, So I mean, you know, 380 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: so we're you know, I mean, he's had it. You know. 381 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: I think it's about the off what he had gone 382 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: on with the officials talk, because there were some things 383 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: we were going to do in that game scheme wise, 384 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: and so I thought, he's gonna tell me how the 385 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: officials talk. Went. Well, he says, what do you think 386 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: about this? That's what are you talking about? Fish? He said, uh, 387 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: you know, all those guys we got from that RG 388 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: three trade, they're all traveling. I said, oh I know. 389 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: I said yes. He said, how about if we send 390 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: all of them out as captains. I just tell the 391 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: other captains to steal in there with me on the bench. 392 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: I went, I went, I went, Fish, Now, well, he said, no, 393 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: here's what I'm thinking of doing. I just what do 394 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: you think about this? I said, you mean, you're gonna 395 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: take those dudes and we got from that train here 396 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: in Washington, and you're gonna have each one of them 397 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: introduced as a captain while your regular captains are standing 398 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: there on the sideline. He said, oh yeah, I think 399 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: I think I like that. You know what, Fish? Yeah, 400 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: I love you. I said, I like that too. So 401 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: he did it? And who noticed it? Oh? Man, they 402 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: all noticed it. Look okay, I mean because they all 403 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: noticed it because they introduced him. I'm up there in 404 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: the box and you can I mean, come on, man, 405 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: I mean how do they I mean they got I mean, 406 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: they know what I mean. They're knowledgeable too. I mean, 407 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: you know, they know what was going on, and we 408 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: win the ball game. I mean, it's a but it 409 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: was that was so classic Fish. I mean, and he 410 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: didn't tell anybody. And as I said, I was, you know, 411 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: one of his closest confidence and I had no idea 412 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: that he would even I mean, who even thinks of that? 413 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: You know, Jeff Fisher with the joy in his eyes 414 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: when he was telling me what he wanted to do, 415 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: and he wasn't really asking me for affirmation. He would 416 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: just he could. It was inside him, it was, it 417 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: was he was about to bust out of him, so 418 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: he had to tell somebody before he Hey, and when 419 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: he told the team when we brought him up, when 420 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: they said two minute warning, when he told the team, 421 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: he said, okay, here's what we're gonna do. I mean, 422 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: they started cheering like we'd already won the game. I mean, 423 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: come on, guys. Was it that similar to the reaction 424 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: of the team when he told them in two thousand 425 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: or before we went to Indianapolis that we were gonna 426 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: on sidekick every time we scored. We were a bad team. Mike, Oh, 427 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: we had no corners. We were down to like corners 428 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: seven and eight at that Yeah, I mean we were, 429 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: we were pulling guys off the street that we would 430 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: have a hard time backpedaling at seven to eleven. I mean, 431 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: it was, it was, it was, I mean really, I 432 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: mean we you know, we were just out of people. 433 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: We were hurt, we were out of people. We went through, 434 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: We went through some times there, you know, before we 435 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: could build a thing back up, especially with the salary 436 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: cap purge that we had because of you know, all 437 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: of the every everything that was done, you know, to 438 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: be able to keep that Super Bowl team together. Well, 439 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: you know, sooner or later, you know, the salary cap 440 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: being what it was, and you didn't you didn't have 441 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: the great increases that we have now, and so we 442 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: got bumped up against it pretty bad. So we had 443 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: to purge a lot of great players. That was painful. 444 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: But anyway, so we got no secondary left and we're 445 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: going up there to play and of course Peyton Peyton 446 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: is rolling now. I mean Peyton Peyton, you know, is 447 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: throwing dimes every weekend that nobody can come. And plus 448 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: you know us, Jim Schwartz, I mean, we used to 449 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: have a we used to have a part of the playbook. 450 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: We'd have our playbook for the year, and then we'd 451 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: have an Indie playbook separate from the other playbook. It 452 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: was an Indianapolis Colts playbook that Jim Schwartz had gathered 453 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: all the information from all the years that he had 454 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: been you know, work going against Peyton Manning with Jeff 455 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: Fisher of some of the things that we could do, 456 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: because you had to have an entirely different game plan 457 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: against Indianapolis and Peyton Manne than you did any other 458 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: offense because it was different. It was like in college 459 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: when you played a lot of eye formation teams and 460 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, in one week you've got to 461 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: get ready for a wishball team. So in fact, we 462 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: would practice some of the Peyton Manning stuff during training 463 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: camp because you know, every now and then you know 464 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: the next you know, Keith Bullock was great because he'd say, well, 465 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: when when's the Peyton Manning day? You know, during training camp, 466 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: you know, because we would practice because we had some 467 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: different schemes that we would have to run. And I 468 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: mean we had we had a series of armed bands. 469 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: We'd change armed bands by quarters where we'd have to 470 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: call him by numbers because I mean, Peyton would dice 471 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: you up. So anyway, we're going into this game and 472 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: he knows going in Fish does. So he talks to 473 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: the staff meeting that we have on Monday night. He says, look, 474 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: here's what I'm thinking of doing. He said, you know, 475 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: no disrespect to anybody, but you know, they might score 476 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: a hundred, you know, he said, because Peyton, I mean, 477 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna you know, spin it up down the field, 478 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: he said, you know, And that's when we had Billy 479 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: Volick and he was still you know, he could spend 480 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: it too, but you know, he said, and they weren't 481 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: very good either on defense. Indy wasn't, he said, And 482 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: they may not be able to stop us, he said, 483 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: but we've got to maximize our possessions. He said, So 484 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to propose this to you now. And he 485 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: had already talked with Alan Lowry and you know, Alan 486 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: sitting there looking around, and he said, anytime we score, 487 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna onside kick. He said, does anybody have any 488 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: objections or does anybody have any reason why we shouldn't 489 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: we just kind of say, you know, the Schwartz you know, 490 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: when yeah, I'm for it, you know, I'm all for it, 491 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: you know, steal a possession. He had already talked to Alan. 492 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: So Alan had all of these all of these onside kicks, 493 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: different types of on side kicks set up and we 494 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 1: practiced and he told the team on Wednesday. He told 495 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: them and they all went yeah, hell yeah, hell yes, 496 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: so we get up there. I'll never forget it. You 497 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: know how Peyton always used to go out with those 498 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: receivers pregame Mike. You watched it for years, wash him 499 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: go through their tree and then watch him go down 500 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: to the end zone and go with Peyton knew that 501 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: we didn't have any dbs either, and Samari Roll was 502 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: our lone dude, but he was hurt and all week 503 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: he didn't practice, and then we were you know, he 504 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: was going to try to play, try to play, try 505 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: to play, and it was going to be one of 506 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 1: those workouts before and but I mean Samaria was hurt. 507 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: I mean he couldn't play, but he was our last dude, 508 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: and I you know, and I don't know if Peyton 509 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: Manning would ever verify this or not, but Peyton was 510 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: throwing his tree and Samaria Roll came out because we 511 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: always used to watch it as defensive coaches. We would 512 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: watch Peyton throw his tree just to watch it because 513 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: we knew, you know, and I mean he was precise 514 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: and it was beautiful to watch from a technical aspect 515 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: of it. And Samaria came to walk, come walking out 516 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: to stand with us in his street clothes. Peyton and 517 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: his receivers look over there and see see Samarian street clothes. 518 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: They just they said, throw a couple of what we're 519 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: going in. That's it, because these other dudes, they got 520 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: no chance to stop us. All right. So we get 521 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: into the ball game and here we go, and so 522 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: we score, we on side kick, don't get it, and 523 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: then we hold him and then they score. We get it. 524 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: We go down to score, Billy Bullick throws a bomb. Mike, 525 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: you remember all of this. We on side kick, get it. Okay, 526 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: we score again, We on side kick again. What was 527 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: the score, Mike, what's the score at halftime of that 528 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: ball game? Score at the end of the first quarter 529 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: was twenty four seventeen. At the end of the first quarter, Yes, 530 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: and whose faith us? Exactly? We're a head. We were 531 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: we were ahead twenty four to seventeen. And Mickey, they're 532 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: booing like crazy they're turning. They're turning around in the 533 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 1: Arca dome. But and I don't know, I mean, where 534 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: are you booing? You know? I mean it's like recover 535 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: the onside kick, you know, and that and that was 536 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: back when you could on side kick and scheme it up, 537 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: you know, right. And we I mean they were booing. 538 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: You're right, they were booing so hard. We're we're cheering 539 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: where everybody's feeling good now, we know. I mean, it's 540 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: like the little Dutch boy putting his finger in the 541 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: in the holes of the damn. We know it's not 542 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: gonna last forever. Okay, But I mean the guys are 543 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: rolling with it. We're loving it. I mean, it is, 544 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: it is, it is going, it is, It is going 545 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: so good. Now. The great part of it was is 546 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, then the colt started putting 547 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: out their hands team out there. Okay, all right, and 548 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: in your hands team you maybe used that once once 549 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: every eight weeks, once every nine weeks. Well, on their 550 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: hands team up front, they have their best hands guys. 551 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: And one of them on the end of the line 552 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: of scrimmage was Reggie Wayne. Okay, and so Reggie's standing 553 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: over there near our sideline, okay, And of course Fisher's 554 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: talking to him and this is about the fourth one 555 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: we've tried. And he said, Reggie, you ready for this kick? 556 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: And he he Reggie yeah, he looked, you know, smiling 557 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: at him, you know yeah, and Fishing, well, you better 558 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: get ready to block because we're kicking this one deep. 559 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: Now you see why Reggie Wayne was popping off during 560 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: the draft last year. He's still bitter about having a 561 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: block on a on a kick. Goll you gotta get 562 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: ready to block these dudes coming down because we're kicking 563 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: it deep. But the but the fellas loved it. Well 564 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: found out they ended up boat racing this what was 565 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: the final mike That's about what it should have been. Yeah, 566 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: well at halftime. If if we didn't have done that, 567 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: it might have I mean because the guys that we 568 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: had played in the secondary. The two thousand and four 569 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: team was the last team where we kept everybody together. 570 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: Floyd Reese, you know, sort of manipulated the salary cap 571 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: one more year and we got everybody hurt. That's the 572 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: most injuries we ever had in any season as the Titans. 573 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: By the end of that year, Man, we were decimated 574 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: we were playing people you'd never heard of and didn't 575 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: hear of in two thousand and five. I'll tell you what, 576 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: the one of the best guys during crisis points during 577 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: the season was Jeff Fisher. Oh you know, we we went, 578 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: we went ten and oh and ended up thirteen and 579 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: three that one year. And then if you'll remember, the 580 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: next year, we lost some really close games early. We 581 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: start off oh and six. That's a death knail in 582 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: the National Football League, and six and we get we 583 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: go to New England and they hang They hang half 584 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: a hundred on us up there in New England before 585 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: the open date. That's the worst thing that could ever 586 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: happen to you as a football team. I remember coming 587 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: back on the plane, you know, Fish said, Mac, we're 588 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: gonna do something different. I said, okay. And so he 589 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: got back and talk to the players the next day 590 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,479 Speaker 1: and it was our open date, sent them home for 591 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: the whole week, the whole week. Then he got the 592 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: staff together and said, look, I want you to take 593 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: you everything down. You know that we've done. We're gonna 594 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: go through and start looking at this and we're gonna 595 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: recalibrate with the people that we have. And he said 596 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: see Waterson. I want you to get some signs made 597 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: up and put them on all the doors, and when 598 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:47,719 Speaker 1: they come back, the sign said, welcome Tennessee Titans on 599 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: the opening day of your season. And we won. We 600 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 1: won six out of our next date, you know, I 601 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,959 Speaker 1: mean we, I mean we want eight out of our 602 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: next ten, and we ended up eight. And we missed 603 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: the playoffs by one game, well one game. And so 604 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: that was the resiliency of Jeff Fisher. And he was 605 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: brilliant like that, he really was. But in times like that, 606 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: I mean, Jeff Fisher was at his best. This is 607 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. You can 608 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: tell that the LLS Sports Stories event was mostly coach 609 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: Mac spinning Yarns and Mickey Ryan and I laughing in 610 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: the background. That was perfect. I did get to tell 611 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: one Tennessee Titans story that actually pre dated Dave McGinnis 612 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: joining the team. It was about another pregame move that 613 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher made, and my friend Titans radios Larry Stone 614 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: and I were both pretty to it happening well before 615 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: it went down. Most Titans fans don't know this story, 616 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna share it, right here on the OTP 617 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: January eighth, two thousand, first playoff game, Everett Nissan Stadium, Titans, 618 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: Bill sixteen fifteen, Bill's lead, sixteen seconds to go, Music 619 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: City Miracle happens, Kevin Dyson goes seventy five yards, we 620 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: kicked the extra point. We win the game, twenty two 621 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: to sixteen. You know what happened over the next twenty 622 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: two days. Over the next twenty two days, we go 623 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: to Indianapolis, and when we go to Jacksonville and beat 624 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: them for the third time, we go to the Super Bowl, 625 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: super Bowl thirty four, if not the most exciting super 626 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: Bowl ever, one of the top two or three, you know, 627 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: just fantastic stuff, parade, an off season that was just 628 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: immeasurable record numbers of season tickets. So the NFL studies 629 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: the Music City Miracle play. NFL Films does a couple 630 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: of things with it, and they determine through some scientific 631 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: looks at still photography and everything that Frank i Checks 632 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: pass to Kevin Dyson did move backwards and was elateral. 633 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: It was legal. The ruling on the field was correct. 634 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: The only place in the world they don't believe that 635 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 1: is in Western New York that you know, they fired 636 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: their special teams coach afterwards. Wade Phillips is still not 637 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: over it if you listen to him. And so the 638 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: the NFL has a sense of human The schedules are 639 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: set for the most part years in advance based on rotations. 640 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: There are a couple of spots where you play places 641 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: based on where you finished in the division, and so 642 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: that does that does happen? Well, it just so happened 643 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: that the two thousand schedule. The Tennessee Titans opened the 644 00:34:55,120 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: two thousand season at Buffalo. Of course, so it's pretty 645 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: obvious this is gonna be a bloodletting. I mean that 646 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: Buffalo fans want it so badly that they can't even 647 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: see straight. And they they are, they are foaming at 648 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 1: the mouth to get the Tennessee Titans into Rich Stadium. 649 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 1: And Jeff Fisher knows this and he's prepared. And Buffalo 650 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: has a great defensive team. They have tremendous talent. You know, 651 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: they had been eleven and five the year before. Had 652 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: it not been for a kickoff return, they would have 653 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: advanced in the in the nineteen ninety nine playoffs. And 654 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: so they got a good club and so Jeff Fisher 655 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: knows we're we're walking in to the hornets nest. This 656 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: is the worst it could possibly be. And I've been 657 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: in a lot of stadiums, in a lot of sports 658 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: in my life, and I have never seen anything like 659 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 1: what this atmosphere was. I mean that they didn't want 660 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: to just win. They wanted to destroy us, put us away, 661 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: stomp on us, and then come back and stomp on 662 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: us some more. Jeff Fisher knew that was going to 663 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: be the case. So on Fridays, Larry Stone from Titan's 664 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 1: Radio and I would have production meetings with Coach Fisher. 665 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: And in the production meetings we would go over a 666 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: few things. He would make us aware of a few 667 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: things that might happen. We would tape his pregame interview 668 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 1: and they were always very insightful that Coach Fisher would 669 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: always have the same meal every week. He would have 670 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: some tortilla chips, a certain number, a certain number of meatballs, 671 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: and he might have a little bit of chili. According 672 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: I mean, it was always the same thing, and he 673 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: would always say the same things to us. Because Coach 674 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 1: Fisher very superstitious, we would leave it with he would say, 675 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: I hope you win and we would say back to him, 676 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: I hope you win to It was always the same 677 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: thing every single week. Well, in the course of this meeting, 678 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: Coach Fisher tells us of a plan that we need 679 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: to watch for in pregame. And as you know, in 680 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: NFL games, the home team introduces either the starting offense 681 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: or the starting defense. At that time, the visiting team 682 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 1: would introduce either their starting offense or defense. Eventually they 683 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 1: just did away with that and now the opposing team 684 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: just comes running on the field. Right, So Coach Fisher says, Hey, 685 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: on Sunday night, and it's a Sunday night football back 686 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: when it was on ESPN, Mike Patrick, Joe Thiseman, and 687 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: Frank McGuire, not Frank McGuire, but Paul McGuire, Paul McGuire. 688 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: And so he says, we're not going to introduce offense 689 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: and we're not going to introduce defense. We're going to 690 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: introduce our special team. And the last three guys that 691 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna introduce are gonna be Lorenz O'Neill, Frank Whichik, 692 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: and Kevin Dyson. Larry Stone and I both look at 693 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: each other and I don't and I don't remember who 694 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: said it. But we're like, uh, coach, you think that's 695 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: a good idea. This was his responsition. Oh, it'll be great. 696 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:38,320 Speaker 1: So we have we set up the whole pregame show 697 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: so we can be in commercial break while this happens, 698 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: because we all want to sit and watch it. It's 699 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:53,760 Speaker 1: sure enough. Here's Aldel grec Opian introduced. Here Terry Kellings, 700 00:38:54,400 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 1: here's Terry Phoenix. And at this point, at this point, 701 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,720 Speaker 1: they don't get it. Okay, they're just booing us because 702 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: they hate our guts. We pulled the Music City Miracle 703 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,879 Speaker 1: on them. It's just it's just been and then there's 704 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: a number forty one Lorenzo knew. But then they start 705 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:25,240 Speaker 1: to get it. The Buffalo crowds like, oh that's said 706 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: guy about that time was like at Frank white Check, 707 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: Oh I mean And of course our buddy Jeff Jared, 708 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: who was wrestling it for WCW at that point, had 709 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: gone up the week after I guess the Monday after 710 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 1: they were doing Monday Nitro after the Music City Miracle, 711 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: and he had warned his white Check jersey in Buffalo 712 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: on Monday night day. So they see white Check and 713 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: they start going just appoplectic. They are loosing their minds. 714 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,240 Speaker 1: And then here's the night this man in the world, 715 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,280 Speaker 1: Kevin Dice, and I know that he throws his arms 716 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: up in the air and I mean, they're like pounding 717 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: on our windows. I mean, I'm thinking, we're not getting 718 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: out of here, somebody. I mean, we are not. I mean, 719 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,720 Speaker 1: it's like Oakland only times ten, because they are just 720 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: absolutely ragings. Oh it's It's the worst scene I've ever 721 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: seen in terms of fan reaction and the best scene. 722 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 1: And I looked at his tissirt he has to turn 723 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: away because he has so gotten them. But you know, 724 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: and we lost the game that night. We should have 725 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 1: won the game. Lost the game that night. Blew it 726 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: team ended up going thirteen and three and Buffalo you know, 727 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: until last year, they really hadn't been the same since. 728 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: But the thing Fisher did, and this was the part 729 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: that was always so great about Fisher, is that crowd 730 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: blew themselves out at that moment. They were they were 731 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: never a factor in the game. We didn't lose because 732 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: of the crowd. They used up all of their energy 733 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: right at the start when they saw Kevin Dyson, and 734 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,919 Speaker 1: at that part they were just like, well, I don't 735 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: they saw it, and I think there were these two things. 736 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 1: There's the Music City Miracle flashback, and then there's also 737 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: this disbelief can they really be doing this? I mean, 738 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: speaking of wrestling moves, this is the greatest heel pop 739 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my entire That's the greatest heel 740 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 1: move ever. And only Fisher would have had the sense 741 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: of humor to do it. But he also had something 742 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 1: behind it. He knew, let's get it all out of 743 00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: the way, and so great, so great, so great. The 744 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,800 Speaker 1: funny thing is, I don't know if I don't know 745 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 1: if Rabel will ever do anything like that, but he's 746 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 1: got some of that in him. You know, you think, yeah, 747 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: he's got some of that sense of humor. I mean, 748 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: list face. I mean, you need to use it all 749 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: while we're here, right, I mean, I have some fun. 750 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: You already saw Mike Rabel do the whole punts penalty punk. Yeah, 751 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 1: he's got some of that in him. Yeah, I mean 752 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: where he belichicked Belichick, I mean it was and the 753 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: look on his face. I picked up Ret Brad's binoculars 754 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: because I just wanted to see what he was doing. 755 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: Oh so good. That was about half of the night 756 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,800 Speaker 1: of Sports stories that coach Dave McGinnis and I teamed 757 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: up to do for the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society. If 758 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: you'd like to help them by making a donation, it 759 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 1: would be much appreciated. Go to bit dot l y 760 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:15,760 Speaker 1: slash l LS live stream. That's bit b I dot 761 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: l y slash l l S live stream. Thank you 762 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: to Mickey Ryan, Christina Ryan, and all of the folks 763 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 1: at LS and Amy Wells for allowing me to share 764 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,280 Speaker 1: some of this event with you. Most of all, thanks 765 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 1: to Dave McGinnis for his friendship, his partnership, and his 766 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 1: willingness to always help. Coach Mackie's from Texas and as 767 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 1: you can tell, he's got a heart as big as 768 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 1: all of Texas. 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