1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: Breakfast Club, Morning everybody, It's the j n V. 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 3: Just hilarious, Charlamagne the gud We are the Breakfast Club. 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 3: We got a special guest in the building, the Icon 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 3: living Dawn Stanley. 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: Welcome back. 7 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: How you feel? Thank you, thank you. Thank y'all usually 8 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 1: come back and I'm invited when we win the championship. 9 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: We lost this year. So thank y'all for you talking 10 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: about you. 11 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: Don't you start that You're always invited. Uncommon favorite is 12 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: out right now. Basketball in North Philly, My Mother and 13 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 3: the life lessons I learned from all three is out 14 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 3: right now. 15 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: How are you feeling. 16 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: I'm feeling great, Like I mean, my my friends have 17 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: received their books and they have nothing but like great 18 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: things like I am my cup running over. Yeah he did. 19 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta give you a shout out. And 20 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: you you sparked the conversation. So many people have asked 21 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: me to write a book, and I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 22 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: like yeah right, but it came from so many different people. 23 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: And then when I came on the show in twenty 24 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: twenty two, we talked about it, and you just you 25 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: kept the conversation going. You're real persistent with it, and 26 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: you know that's That's what I'm attracted to most, is 27 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: like somebody. 28 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 2: That actually is it persistent yet. 29 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: Persistent and know the process, Like you knew the process. 30 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: I don't know if you knew my story, so to speak, 31 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: but you knew enough to know that you know this, 32 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: this book will be received well. And I appreciate that well. 33 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: People like you don't come around too often. Don Like 34 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: you're a once in a generational just person, you know, 35 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: and you really learned that when you read the book, 36 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 2: not even just as a coach but as a basketball player, 37 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: but more so as a child of Philadelphia. 38 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: Man, I mean, it's it's I mean I had fun, 39 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: Like the process was fun. It's liberating. It is you know, 40 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: you don't really know how you're going to be received, 41 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: but every person like I'm actually waiting for a critic, 42 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: like somebody say what didn't go right in the book, 43 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: and then we have yet to get to that point. 44 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: And I just my one of my friends was, you know, listening, 45 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: had a long road trip, listened to the entire book 46 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: yesterday and she was like, I'm in tears. I'm laughing. 47 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: I get it. Like the leadership part of it, Like 48 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: I mean, the emotions that are in the book, and 49 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: it's it's me. So some of it is emotional me. 50 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: Some of it is just I'm able to just get 51 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: it out because I remembered most of it and I 52 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: had to call on my my siblings and kind of 53 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: fill in the gaps. But it's it's me, like it's 54 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: it's so me, it's so relatable, it's so just. It 55 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: was an easy process, so it was there was the 56 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: therapeutic at all to do it. No, it was just natural. 57 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: It wasn't like it was natural. And I think sharing 58 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: my story is just relatable to people. It's not like, 59 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think it's a you know, like 60 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: in we don't overdo it with the accolades. It's like 61 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: the accolades are intertwined and everybody's accolades won't be like 62 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: Olympian and actual champions, but on on a certain level, 63 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: like if you if you graduate high school, it's relatable, 64 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: if you graduate college is relatable. If you if you 65 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: can pull yourself out of the projects of any city, 66 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: it's it's relatable. And and there's no there's no wrong path, 67 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: like there's no like you can get off tilted, but 68 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: then you got to come back by like habits come 69 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: back by. You know. The the lessons in the book 70 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: are just just it relates to every single thing that 71 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: you would want to accomplish in life. And I'm not 72 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: just saying that the pumped the book, but it really 73 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: is like I'm only giving what other people are giving me, 74 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: the feedback they're giving me, and it's cool to hear 75 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: people just relate to the book. 76 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: The beautiful thing about Uncommon Favor is you get to 77 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: tell your own story. So when you're when you're writing 78 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: the book, what part of your story that you want 79 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: to tell because you think people misunderstood it are overlook it. 80 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: Well. One is when I when I when I speak 81 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: on things that are controversial, you know, racial things, like 82 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: it's it's it's my perspective. Like a lot of times 83 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: people can't see what you see because it's not their experience. 84 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: Their experience is only hearing you and commenting on how 85 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: you feel about certain things. When anybody can feel strongly 86 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: about certain things. I feel strongly about everything in this 87 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: book because it happened to me. Like it's personal and 88 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: it's my perspective, but it's it's not harmful, like allow 89 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: people to tell their stories without hurting your feelings. It's 90 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: it's it's personal to me. Now, you could be a 91 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: critic of the book, or you can enjoy the book, 92 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: and you can do all those things. But everything in 93 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: this book is is my story is a part of 94 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: who I him. It's allowed me to grow and learn 95 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: and and succeed and fail and and all those things 96 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: that happened to everybody you know sitting around this table, 97 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: and everybody that will we'll read it or not read it. 98 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: It's going to happen to you no matter what. So 99 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: I think you know some of the stuff. You know, 100 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: like you know the you know when when when I 101 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: sue the a d in Missouri, you got to get 102 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: the whole backstory, because if you only hear one side 103 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: of it, you only hear snippets of it, you'll think, oh, well, 104 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: why does she do that? Like or equal pay? You know, 105 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: why why would you you already make it a lot 106 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: of money, why would you want equal pay? Well, Well, 107 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: because I know my worth, like like, it's not it's 108 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: not hard to see. I think this book is very simple, 109 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: like very simple lessons that I'm hoping that people can 110 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: can take and utilize in their their daily lives. 111 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 3: I love it because you know, people know you from 112 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: different things, right, Some people know you as a player, 113 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,559 Speaker 3: some people know you as a coach. But with this book, 114 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 3: it starts from where you came from, which is North Philly, right. 115 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 3: And you talk around housing projects, and you talk about 116 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 3: you know, you said growing up in the projects was 117 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 3: the best decision your parents made. Explain that a little 118 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 3: bit and how that formed to the woman that you 119 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 3: are today. 120 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: It just imagine the people that that don't grow up 121 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: in the projects. What you think happens in the projects. 122 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: You you think probably only one thing, crime like bad 123 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: things like And for me, it was the foundation of 124 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: of giving me the scars I needed, the chinks and 125 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,239 Speaker 1: the armor I needed to succeed. Like there was unity 126 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: in the projects. There was discipline in the projects. There 127 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,799 Speaker 1: there was there was manicure lawns. There was my block 128 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: I grew up, never had trash in it, like it was. 129 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: It was captain in a way that would would compete 130 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: with any suburban lawn like on neighborhood. So it was 131 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: it was all those things things that help build you up. 132 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: Like I'm unbothered and unafraid to tackle on the most 133 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: challenging things in life because that's nothing compared to what 134 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: that's nothing like. So I think it gave me the 135 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: foundation I needed to just be able to, you know, 136 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: coach every day, like coach young people, like generations are 137 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: changing coaching, coaching talent and individuals and young people nowadays, 138 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: it's very, very challenging. 139 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: And I can imagine because you know, being a player, 140 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 3: I'm sure you gotta scream that crazy. But if you 141 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 3: dare talk to your girls like that, you can't. 142 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: You gotta office exactly. So if you're not able to pivot, 143 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: if you're not able to handle different challenges that you're 144 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: faced with, like I feel bad for coaches who are 145 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: who aren't like like I'm I'm a traditional coach, will 146 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: I like order? I like? You know, people call them rules. 147 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: People think I'm very strict and discipline. I am, I am, 148 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: But all of our rules are are just good character 149 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: things like good it's a good character. It's not like 150 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: be on time. That's that's not a rule. That's that's 151 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: a character trait. That's not that's not hard to do. 152 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: If there's something that you want to do, one of 153 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: the lessons. You have to do what you don't want 154 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: to do to get what you want. Like yeah, like 155 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: like you know, I mean you're you're a renowned comedian, 156 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: right like you know how many stand up shows you 157 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: have to do that? Maybe you you were you weren't 158 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: very good at at the beginning, like but you you 159 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: want to be where you are today. You just kept 160 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: at it and kept at it and kept at it. 161 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: It's no, it's no different than you know, a child 162 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: that that wants to grow up and be in the 163 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: w n b A or the NBA. I mean, how 164 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: much competitions out there. So you gotta work when nobody's working. 165 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: You gotta do. You gotta get up and work out 166 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: and sacrifice. I mean I sacrifice proms, I sacrifice all 167 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: these things, family reunions because I wanted to be the 168 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: best in my in my profession. And that's all. It's okay. 169 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to choose. You definitely gonna have to 170 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: choose certain things over over other things in order for 171 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: you to really be the best at it. 172 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 2: I love how you embrace your in a child, That's 173 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 2: what I love. This picture on the ask what's the 174 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: moment from your childhood that still shapes how you like 175 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: handle pressure today. 176 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: You know, there's a there's a story that I that 177 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: I share in the book about my father, who I mean, 178 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm I'm over fifty now, right, but when he I 179 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: don't know if I was twelve fourteen, maybe I got 180 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: a chance to I got invited to play on this 181 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: team and this competition outside of Philly, like it was 182 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: a road trip, and my father was like, no, you 183 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: can't go. Oh Like that hurt me, Like it really 184 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: hurt me. And I remembered it so vividly that that 185 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: for him to deny me that because it was one 186 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: of the first times. But I'm thirteen, fourteen years old, 187 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: whose parents gonna let them somebody else take their child 188 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: out of state? Like I wasn't thinking about that. I 189 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: was solely thinking about basketball. But it was one of 190 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: the one of the experiences that drove me, like didn't 191 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: I didn't like my father for that, Like I didn't 192 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: like him for the decision parental decision that he made. 193 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: But as I'm older now and reflecting on and writing 194 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: a book, it is I need conflict. I know that 195 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: about myself that I need conflict, Like everything can't be comfortable, 196 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: Like if I have you know, ten people supporting me, 197 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: you know here, I need about ten to twelve people 198 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: that hated like I need it. I mean, it helps me. 199 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: It drives me, Like it drives me that I don't 200 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: have a critic yet. I'm waiting for the book right now, right, 201 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 1: So it's that is the ability. Like, you know, we 202 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: lost the Yukon this year, Like you know, the critics 203 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: are saying I can't coach like that, that's what they say. 204 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: But I'm like, okay, well but but but again, everything 205 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: that I've needed in my life, you know, failure success 206 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: happens to me. It's uncommon. Like, but I know I 207 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: know our loss this year will somehow help us. It will. 208 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: It's just you know, I'm not just I'm not just 209 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: relying on it helping us. I'm gonna put put action 210 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: to it. So so it means something. 211 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: I love them. You said that in a post game conference. 212 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 2: You was like, I hope that they're crying. I hope 213 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: that my players are crying. I hope that it hurts. 214 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: That'll make them be better. 215 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the most growth takes place when you're 216 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: uncomfortable the moment. If you're comfortable all the time. And 217 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: I've said this as well, like parents really don't want 218 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: their kids to feel what they felt like pain, and 219 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, I want them to feel a little pain. 220 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: I want them to hurt. I want them to be uncomfortable, 221 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: and I love them enough to allow them to sit 222 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: in that space because not for long, but they need 223 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: to fight their way out of it, because nothing's going 224 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: to be given to me. I don't like that place. 225 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: I don't like to feel that, So I fight like 226 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: hell to try to not feel that, by reppering, by 227 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: doing everything I need to do to not feel that. 228 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: It's almost like when you grow up in the projects 229 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: and you grow up in poverty, you don't want that anymore. 230 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: Like you don't want that once you've lived and you've 231 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: you know you've earned a certain keep. You want to 232 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: keep that because you want to change generations in your 233 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: in your family, and I hope I'm able to do that. 234 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: Like, You've always been a natural born leader, like throughout 235 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 2: your whole life, even when you were the child. So 236 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: it made me wonder if coaching never entered your life, 237 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 2: where do you think your leadership would have shown up? 238 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: Oh? Man, that's a hard question, like I'm I'm competitive. 239 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: I probably would have been a losing gambler, but trying, 240 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: like like trying, like I don't know. I mean I do. 241 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: I love kids, so my work would have been with kids. 242 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: And I'm glad that coaching found me. Like I'm glad 243 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: somebody saw something in me that I didn't see in myself. 244 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: I didn't see coaching. I didn't want to coach at all, 245 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: and and I don't know why, because I had great coaches. 246 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: I had great people in my life that that challenged me, 247 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: that were good at it. But when I when I 248 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: had coaching friends, the only thing they talked about where 249 00:13:54,480 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: they're you know, were their teams in basketball. And I'm like, yeah, 250 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: this is what I do every day. I do this 251 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: every day. Why would I want to talk about it 252 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: every day? Why would I want my life consume with it? 253 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: And here I am, twenty five years later, like loving it, 254 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: like it's I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. 255 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: Then when you when you're able to live out your passion, 256 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: it's the most beautiful, liberating and an incredible experience. Like 257 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: I know my players really get something out of our relationship. 258 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: They do, they get they build character, they navigate life. 259 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: But for me, it's I'm overjoyed when they graduate. I'm 260 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: overjoyed on draft night. I'm overjoyed when they're able to 261 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: see their hard work produce what they want, like like 262 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: what they want to like even if they don't make 263 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: it to the league. They're equipped, they're equipped with with 264 00:14:52,640 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: being successful with anything. Like seriously, that is that that 265 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: that does something to my heart when when young people 266 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: are able to get what they're supposed to get. 267 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 3: And how do you block out the noise? Or do 268 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: you like the noise? Because you said you like the haters, 269 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 3: you like the people that's doubting you, But do you 270 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: need to block that out when you're coaching, when you're 271 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 3: teaching your girls or teaching your women, Like how do 272 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 3: you deal with that? 273 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: I mean that that hate usually comes from like social media, 274 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: Like yeah, I read it, I see it all, you know, 275 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: and sometimes I dive into it. No, I mean I 276 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: look at it again and then I sometimes I'm like, okay, 277 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: ten nine eight seven, I gotta i gotta take a 278 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: ten count. Some people go like this and delete like 279 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: they right, and they delete. I'm like, I'll give them that, Like, 280 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: but my life is living proof that you're What you're 281 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: saying doesn't impact me in the way that it was 282 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: dealt out. It impacts me in a way of proving 283 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: you wrong. Like I'm an odds beater, like I beat 284 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: the odds, so the odds say I've already won. Okay, 285 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: this is really just icing on the cake. So it 286 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: it drives me for sure. 287 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: You know you talked about your players. You got a 288 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: lot of success stories from your time coaching at the 289 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: University of South Carolina, But in the book, you make 290 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 2: it no secret that Asia Wish is your favorite. Hmm. 291 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I mean, here's why, here's why, And 292 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: I don't I've coached a lot of great players, like 293 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: Asia was the very first player that was the number 294 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: one play in the country to decide she wanted to 295 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,119 Speaker 1: come play for us, and I know it's in her backyard, 296 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: but she had and we didn't. We didn't look like 297 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: a national championship team, Like we never won a national 298 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: we had never been to the final four. So for 299 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: her to trust us with that part of her career 300 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: meant that she believed in us. She trusted us, She 301 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: knew that we were going to get her to where 302 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: she needed to go as far as still being the 303 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: number one draft pick like four years later, like when 304 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: someone and it wasn't just her, it was her entire 305 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: family believed in it. And it took it took some 306 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: you know, it took us at times them thinking did 307 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: we make the right decision? Because she did. She started 308 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: her first game and then she was terrible, like scrub 309 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 1: like right, scrub like scrub like. So I was like, 310 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta take you out of start lineup. 311 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: But I ain't even taught her that. I told her 312 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: parents first, and her mom even was like, you're sure, 313 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: like you're gonna have to trust me on this one, 314 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: Like You're just gonna have to trust me, And she 315 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: was like all right. But at the end of her 316 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: freshman year, she was National Rookie of the Year, she 317 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: was first team All SEC, she was Rookie of the 318 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: Year in the ESSs, Like she got all the accolades 319 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: coming off the bench. And when someone believed, like when 320 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: someone as a coach and leader and mentor young people, 321 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: young people believe in you like they really do, when 322 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: that's reciprocated. Because I believed that I knew that she 323 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: was going to be the one that takes us to 324 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: that next level when when you're able to have the 325 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: same synergy. 326 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 2: Right. 327 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:36,479 Speaker 1: And you know, Asia was hell to deal with, right 328 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: because she's young, Like she with the private school for 329 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: like twelve years. All of her school he was a 330 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: private school, and so she needed to be roughened up 331 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: a little bit to get her ready for what she faces. 332 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: Like she faces the critics right now, but I know, 333 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: I know she can handle them because we took her 334 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: through all of that. Like she had this leg right 335 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: throughout her college career. And I'm like, okay, you're going 336 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: to read in front of the team every time we 337 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: have a game because we have a like a you know, 338 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: you know, we have a scripture reading and an inspirational 339 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: reading before every pregame meal and there's somebody that has 340 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: to read it. So I was like, you're gonna read. 341 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: It took her her senior year. Couldn't do it the 342 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: first second, the third her senior year, she read out loud, 343 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: and she had fun with it. She had y'all, this 344 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: is alone, y'all gonna have to bear with me. Like 345 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: it was that kind of liberation some when when she 346 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: gave her entire self to me, the good, the bad, 347 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: the ugly entire And you know that's why I just 348 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: have a really strong like relationship with her, Like she 349 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: could tell me anything, like I'm non judgmental, Like young 350 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: people won't want to tell you everything because they think 351 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna judge them, don't. I don't judge. Like there's 352 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: nothing that any one of my current former future players 353 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: can tell me that that's gonna rock me that I 354 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: haven't seen, like everybody's been through. Like there's no new problems, 355 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: it's the same old, recycled problems. So just give it 356 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: here so you're not dealing with it longer than you 357 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: need to. 358 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 2: What what's something about your relationship with Asia that the 359 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 2: fans and media don't see what it means the most 360 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: to you. 361 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: She gives me her darkest moments. Wow, like her darkest 362 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: Like you see a an incredibly like gift. I think 363 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: she's the best player in the world, right, she's the 364 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: best player in the world. I mean she she has 365 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: doubts at times, like whether she's going to perform at 366 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: this level, and she she gives me that, and I 367 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, yeah, there's a lot of pressure, 368 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: so you know, I've had experience with it because I 369 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: played with the best player in the world during my day, 370 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: Lisa Leslie. Same conversations I had with Lisa, like Okay, 371 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: it's time for you to be the best playing the world, 372 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: Like come championship time, come gold medal time, like I'm 373 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: used to giving them, I'm used to pumping them up. 374 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: And at the end of the conversation, thank you, coach. 375 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: I mean, and it's not much, it's just boom, be 376 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: done with it, biest even in less than four right 377 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: when you say you have to do what you don't 378 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: want to do to get what you want, you weren't 379 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: even good with people at first. You said you could not. 380 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: You had a job that you had got through your 381 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: mom's cleaning. She would get your jobs through her cleaning company, 382 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: and you didn't even it wasn't a company. My mom 383 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: was a one woman show these jobs. And you did 384 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: not do good with greeting people because that means you 385 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: had to talk to people. That's not even what you 386 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: wanted to do. And then look at you now, like 387 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: that journey from there to there? How it like? How 388 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,239 Speaker 1: did you get there doing that you didn't even want 389 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: to do? Communicate with people. Well, when when you're when 390 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: you're the youngest of five, you don't really get to say, 391 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: I grew up in the household. I'm the youngest, Like 392 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: nobody gave me any credit. I couldn't speak, Like I 393 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: got an older brother who's like eight years older, my 394 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: my deceased next oldest brother seven years my sister's six 395 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: years older than me, and I got another brother that's 396 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: two years older than me. Like, you're not getting to 397 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: say in our household. So I was quiet, observant, listen, 398 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: really form discernment, you know, doing those during those times, 399 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: and then you grow, like you really grow. When I 400 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: went to college, I was still the same way, Like 401 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: I never talked, I was shy and then and then 402 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, things start happening to you, and you're like, 403 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: if I don't say anything, they're gonna start taking advantage 404 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: of me. So now you know, I think growing up 405 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: and seeing things and that's you know it, It's so 406 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: cool that you know how I explain myself in this book. 407 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: It lends itself to another lesson, which is look, sound feel. 408 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: If something looks, sounds or feels off, oh I'm addressing it. 409 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: I can't like it's in me to address it. If 410 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: it looks sounds or feels off, I mean off, I'm addressing. 411 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: If it looks sounds it feels good, I'm encouraging it. 412 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: Like it is. It is. It is that That's where 413 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: I found my voice when something just didn't seem right, 414 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: or something that really seemed right, that that I wanted 415 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: more of. 416 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 3: What accolade meant the most to you. 417 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: I would say, I'm so far from my plan days 418 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: that I don't even really count that. Probably when when 419 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: my players graduate, that's that's that's the best feeling, because 420 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: because we sit in the living rooms and we say 421 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: your child will graduate, and sometimes it's the first generational 422 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:06,239 Speaker 1: college graduate. Do you know what that means to the family, Like, 423 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: it's not it just doesn't impact that my player in 424 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: impacts everybody that comes after her or everybody in her 425 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: current family that that desires to get a higher education. 426 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: They'll they'll go out and do it because it's not 427 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: tangible in some homes, it's not it's not something that 428 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: someone has ever done in their household, and for that 429 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: to happen, their their generations will change from that. So 430 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: it's just the impact. 431 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 2: Of that, you know, it's interesting record. I was watching 432 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: you yesterday. You did Good Morning in America to view 433 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 2: Kobe all of that stuff like that. So you was working, 434 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 2: but I still know you're still the coach at the 435 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 2: University of South Carolina. But I was like, oh, you 436 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 2: know what, she'll be fine because she used to play 437 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 2: ball and coach at the same time, which I found 438 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 2: out about in the book. 439 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: That was insane six years. That's crazy six years. I 440 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 1: mean when I when I got into coaching, I was 441 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: like in my prime, so you know the ad at 442 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: the time. He kept asking me like he was persistent, 443 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: like I'm like, no, no, I'm not interested. I'm playing 444 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: in the WNBA and this is and then he just 445 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: kept asking. And then then I ended up having to 446 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: go meet with him because the final four was in Philly. 447 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: I'm from Philly. He knew I was going to be there. 448 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: So I went and sat down with him and he 449 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: asked me two questions. He was like, can you lead? 450 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,479 Speaker 1: Did you do your research? Like did you like And 451 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: I was like yeah, I basically was the captain on 452 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: every team that I played on, right, And then he 453 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: was like, can you turn Temple women's basketball program around? 454 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, is that a challenge? Like 455 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: is that really a challenge? Because I'm drawing the challenges 456 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: and I and I never looked at it that way, 457 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 1: and I never answered the question. I don't even think 458 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,959 Speaker 1: I answered the question. He was like, Hey, can you 459 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: just come down the hall and meet some people? So 460 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I'm here, and he took me 461 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: in this conference room, sat me at the head of 462 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: the table and they were like ten or twelve people 463 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: sitting around this table and they're asking me questions like 464 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: what do you see yourself in five years? I'm like 465 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: playing in the WNBA. And they were like, do you 466 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: haven't seen yourself coaching? And I'm like no, Like y'all 467 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: they were interviewing me. I was on a job interview 468 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: and I didn't know it because all my job interviews 469 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: were tryouts like basketball like physical tryouts. And needless to say, 470 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: I took the job two weeks later and they just 471 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: agreed to allow me to continue to play and coach. 472 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: So I was in like basketball utopia because I was 473 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: coaching and I'm actually still able to express myself on 474 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: the court because I wasn't ready to hang up my shoes. 475 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: I was still very much a player, and I think 476 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: that allowed me to play a little bit longer than 477 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to, and that allowed me to keep staying 478 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: fresh with what was up with teaching young people because 479 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: they were more enthralled with me playing because that's what 480 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: they wanted, Like I was living their dream right before 481 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: their very eyes. And I think it just helped me 482 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,719 Speaker 1: be a better coach, be a more understanding coach, because 483 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: I was a player receiving information from a coach, and 484 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: then I just helped the dynamics of what I was doing. 485 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 2: And I guess we learned how to get you to 486 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: do things, be persistent, get a challenge, right. 487 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: Like as I think about it all and this is 488 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: not in the book, but everybody that I have in 489 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: my you know, you know, in my circle, Like I 490 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: got a financial guide. He pressed me for one for 491 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: a whole year when I was at South Carolina. He 492 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: would come and just visit, just checking, and then you know, 493 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: finally I gave all my money to him, like seventeen 494 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: years later, where he's still with me, and it's it's 495 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: the coolest thing to have someone just because you know, 496 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: like it pour in like I mean, you pour it 497 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,719 Speaker 1: into me. With this book, like you you understood it, 498 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: Like I didn't want to write a book, like I don't. 499 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I didn't want to write 500 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: a book. But then when when we won last year 501 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: in an undefeated way, like I'm like, this is this 502 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: is my my cut running through. This is uncommon favor, 503 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: and we we tried to we tried to come up 504 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: with different titles with the book, and it always came 505 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: back to this because this really explains my entire life, 506 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: Like if I had to describe my my, my life, 507 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: my career, my it's uncommon favor. 508 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: Like to the m degree, have you ever a question 509 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: whether you were too hard or not hard enough on 510 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 2: a play? 511 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah there was there was. I mean, it's 512 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: all teaching moments where I I wanted a freshman to 513 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: beat out a senior. When I kind of first my 514 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: first couple of years at South Carolina, we you know, 515 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: we recruited this young lady because I thought she would 516 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: be the best. I was like, this is the one 517 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: I want, so all of our coaching staff we zeroed 518 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: in on her. She committed, she came, and then I 519 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: was I was really hard on her, like like you 520 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: gotta do I tried to pour everything in because I 521 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: wanted her to beat the senior out. I couldn't just 522 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: give her. I couldn't just give her. I just I'm 523 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: not in it. You gotta earn it because you gotta 524 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: you gotta protect your locker room, because if you're just 525 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: giving out something and you lose trust. So I wanted 526 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: so I poured into her. I was hard on her, 527 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: and she cried at different times of the season, and 528 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: then I would talk to her like I thought everything 529 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: was good. You know, we were working towards it. Sometimes 530 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: they cried. Sometimes you know, they can they can take it. 531 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: And then at the end of the sea, like I 532 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: always do, I meet, I have our postseason meeting and 533 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: she says something I just didn't It didn't dawn on 534 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: me during the year, Like she was like, I wasn't ready. 535 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: And I never thought she wasn't ready. If she would 536 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: have said that to me like during the during the season, 537 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: I would have I would have backed off. But she 538 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: was just like I wasn't ready, and I'm like, I'm sorry. 539 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: So I do think that it strained our relationship. I 540 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: think she understands it now because she's a coach now, 541 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: so she kind of understands it. But I had to 542 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: change how I operated in that space because and I 543 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: ask our players to talk to me more like I 544 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: could be. I could be a better coach when you 545 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: talk to me. If not, I'm assuming that everything I'm 546 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: saying you're good with. So now it's like, how you 547 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: feel about this, how you want to play this, how 548 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: you want to do this, what do y'all think? I'm 549 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: more of a listener and I involved and more inclusive 550 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: with game planning, inclusive with how we handle problems that 551 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: come up on the team, between teammates, all of that. 552 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm just like, we talk it out. Like we talk 553 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: it out, I expect like it's not a rhetorical question, 554 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: it is an inclusive question. Hey, let's let's talk about this, 555 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: because I find that if you don't address it, it grows, 556 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: and then you're halfway through the season, and like y'all 557 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: still on that when a two minute conversation could resolve 558 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: it all. 559 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 3: I wanted to ask about your father, right. You mentioned 560 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 3: your father earlier in an interview and you said your 561 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 3: relationship wasn't that great, but you said it got better 562 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 3: over the years. Do you understand some of the things 563 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 3: that your father was trying to implementing you as a 564 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 3: young girl, because they said that your father looked at 565 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 3: women's basketball and felt there wasn't too many opportunities and 566 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 3: didn't know if you could sustain at that time. And 567 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 3: do you wish that you kind of put yourself in 568 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 3: his mentality back then as a child, because even with 569 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 3: the name of the book, it says basketball in North Philly, 570 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 3: my mother. 571 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: But you know, I think I think even the one 572 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: like family members that are that are closest to you, yes, 573 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: I thought, I, yes, I should have had a much 574 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: more mature outlook on that relationship now that you can 575 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: reflect on it now that you can see because I 576 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: held that and I you know, if you can hear that, 577 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: I still hold that instance. But when you when you're 578 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: coaching right and you come up, you know, with you 579 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: come into a situation where you hurt a player like 580 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: you heard that player that was like probably twelve years ago. 581 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: I heard that player, like, it drives me to not 582 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: hurt other players, right, And I wasn't mature enough or 583 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: savvy enough to handle that at twelve or thirteen. So 584 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: I do think it's helped me be a better coach. 585 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: It helps me be a better person to really like again, 586 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: I didn't talk about things I held that for my 587 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: father probably didn't, probably doesn't. He's been he's been dead 588 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: and gone since two thousand and one. Like I don't 589 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: even think he really knew how much that hurt me. 590 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: But also use that to navigate the nose, Like I 591 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: handle nose a lot better because of that. Because of that, 592 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: it wasn't like my mom. I was the baby girl, 593 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: the baby girl, so the baby girl holds a special place, 594 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: and you know with your mother. My father was a 595 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: tremendously like not high education like he didn't he but 596 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: he was worldly like he knew he was a carpenter, 597 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: he was a mechanic, he knew everything worldly from when 598 00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: I was younger until adulthood. And he really had a 599 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: stronger relationship with my other siblings because they were older 600 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: too that they could have a conversation with him about anything. 601 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: And I still used to sit back, even as an adult, 602 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 1: sit back and kind of listen to them have these 603 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: conversations about prime ministers and presidency and politics. Like I 604 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: wish he was alive today to hear his perspective on 605 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: what what's happening in our world today, because he was 606 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: super up with everything. 607 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 2: I love to respect the power of habit chapter. And 608 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 2: in that chapter, you speak extremely highly of South Carolina's 609 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 2: own Malaysia for a while, and you even refer to 610 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 2: her as a younger, savvier version of you. You say, 611 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 2: and this is a quote I heard from so many 612 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 2: adults who gave their own parents hell, only to see 613 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 2: their teenagers return to favor. Now it's my turn in 614 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 2: the battle. So when I see you had when I 615 00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 2: read that, and I was like, she had so much 616 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 2: from Malaysia. What was your initial reaction when she decided 617 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,280 Speaker 2: to enter the portal? And was surprising you? 618 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: So surprising? No, I think, you know, being in this space, 619 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: you you you, you become you know, to expect the unexpected, right. 620 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: I still have much love for Mylisia, like much love, 621 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: Like I want her happy. She came in, said she 622 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: and a mom came in. She said, I think I'm 623 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,720 Speaker 1: going to get into the transfer portals. I'm like, okay, 624 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: well you think or you know, And she said I know, 625 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 1: And I said, well, I said, I only want you happy, 626 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 1: like I really do. Only want our players happy, whether 627 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: that's that's with us or somewhere else. Just be happy. 628 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 1: I told her, don't look back. I know it's probably 629 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: gonna be hard to not look back to see you know, 630 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 1: you leaving your hometown and all that. I said, don't 631 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: look back, like you know you made this decision. Just 632 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: go forward with it and don't look back. Uh, You're 633 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: always gonna be a game cock. You're always gonna be 634 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: welcomed here. I wish her the best. And when I 635 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: say that, people probably think, oh, but I do, like 636 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: I really do, like, cause I am. What's for us 637 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: is for us. What's not it was not Let's keep moving. 638 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: I don't stay in I don't stay in despair. I 639 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: don't stay in those spaces for very long. I'm like, Okay, 640 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: we got we gotta get we gotta get recruiting. We 641 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: gotta get back into this portal to see who we 642 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: can get, you know, to to help us. I think 643 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: she's gonna have a promising career. I do think she's 644 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,720 Speaker 1: a generational talent that will never leave. 645 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 2: Like. 646 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: She does things on the basketball court that I've never 647 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: seen a woman do, and she's she'll continue to do 648 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: that and will continue to be happy for her. Except 649 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,919 Speaker 1: the one or two times that we have to play 650 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: them like it's on, like it's this, She's gonna be 651 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: super competitive against us. We're gonna we're gonna want to win, 652 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a pride thing that comes with 653 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: just being, you know, a competitor. And we got much 654 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,280 Speaker 1: love for her in the family. 655 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 2: What do you feel like the transfer portal era forces 656 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 2: coaches to evolve faster when it comes to like player relationship. 657 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, well for me, I need that, like I need 658 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: to have a relationship with you. I need I need that, 659 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: like I'm not good and you know, one off, so 660 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm not good at at you know, transactional relationships, like 661 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 1: I'm not good. You know, I don't want to turn 662 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: my heart off, you know, like my heart is the 663 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 1: is the thing that leads me and I need that 664 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: type of connection and I'm never gonna I'm never gonna 665 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: go there with the transfer portal transactional mindset, it's it's 666 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: helped and it's hurt. Like I do think that I 667 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: do think that something needs to happen regarding how many 668 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 1: times you can transfer, like how many? Like how many 669 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: is how many? Like one I think is great, Like 670 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 1: you pick the wrong school, you find the right school transfer. Now, 671 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: I think when you're able to transfer two three, you 672 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: can be at four different schools in four years. And 673 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: does it create more opportunity for them to be wealthier? Yes, 674 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: it does. And I think us women are trying to 675 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: get all of that back because I think our game 676 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: has been held down for so long that now that 677 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: this space is open to us and we're thriving in it. 678 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 1: We're thriving in the name, image and likeness space. We're thriving. 679 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 1: But I don't want people to lose sight of what 680 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: team is. Like. My whole life is built around team. 681 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 1: My personal life. I got a team of people, team 682 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 1: of friends that come, hell of how water, We're gonna 683 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 1: stick together. Whether we agree or disagree, we're gonna do 684 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: it agreeably. And I just I want that for our game. 685 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want our game to lose 686 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 1: that part of it because it's the very thing that's 687 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: been attracting and magnetic to the fans. 688 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 3: Now this this has nothing to do with the boat, 689 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 3: but I wanted to ask this. Were talking about players. 690 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 3: You know, the w NBA has has taken a huge 691 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 3: jump in the last couple of years, and I love it. 692 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 3: My daughters love it, my sons love it. What do 693 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,879 Speaker 3: you think what's going on in the WNBA with it? 694 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 3: It seems like they're pitting, you know, Caitlin Clark against 695 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 3: Angel Reese, right, kind of what they did in the 696 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 3: NBA back in the day. But it was more teams, right, 697 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 3: I guess not maybe not teams. It was Magic Bird. 698 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 3: This one is that one, But this one, it just 699 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 3: seems like it seems very personable. So what are your thoughts, 700 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 3: like even the other day with that foul and they 701 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 3: called it a flagrant foul. I don't necessarily agree, but 702 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 3: what are your thoughts on it? 703 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: You don't think it was a flagrant foul. 704 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 3: I think it was just a foul from what I've 705 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 3: seen me playing basketball and me watching basketball. I think 706 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 3: if it would have been anybody else, it might have 707 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 3: just been a foul. I don't don't know if it's 708 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 3: a flairre So just asking your thought. 709 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: Well, I think the officiating has a has a hard job. 710 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: That's one the decipher whether or not that's a flavored 711 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 1: one or not. Hard job, hard job, And I do 712 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: think they understand the dynamics of Angel and Caitlin. I 713 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: do I think it's great for our game because it's like, yeah, 714 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: like it's a sport. Treat us like a sport. Don't 715 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,320 Speaker 1: treat us anything other than being a sport. It happens 716 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: in every sport, Soccer, basketball, football, it happens in every sport. 717 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 1: So let it be. I'm gonna I'm gonna take the 718 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 1: lead of Angel and Caitlin, and that lead is they 719 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: said it was a it was a file. The officials 720 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: got it right. We're moving on. That's what I'm saying. I' 721 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 1: gonna take their lead. Okay, I think it's I think 722 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 1: it's it. It pulls people in, people in. I do 723 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: think there are new fans that haven't watched our game 724 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: and they really don't know, so they only they're only 725 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: singlely focused on Kate one, right, right, So when you're 726 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: that and that's that's that's that's their idol, that's who 727 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 1: attracts them. But I just hope that they'll open their 728 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 1: eyes to the rest of the talent that that is there. 729 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: Like the product. The product is incredible, like and it's 730 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: in high demand. We played Caitlyn in the National Championship 731 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 1: last year, right twenty twenty million A topped off at 732 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: whatever it topped off at the most right. I know, 733 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: I know they saw us like I know they saw us. 734 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: I know they saw us have an undefeated season. I 735 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: know they saw Camilla Cardozo. I know they saw Ashland Waxase. 736 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: I know they saw Tessa Johnson have an incredible care 737 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: career or day. I know they saw my Lasier do 738 00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: some incredible things like so, so open your eyes up 739 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: to seeing you know, out outside of Caitlin, well not 740 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 1: even outside included because she's a part of a part 741 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 1: of it all. So you know, I'm looking forward to 742 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,720 Speaker 1: the next time they play too, I'm gonna be glueden 743 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 1: just like everybody else. 744 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 2: Yes, the wrong call in that scenario, Waston getting called 745 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 2: for a text. 746 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: Exactly she didn't even know until after the game. But 747 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: do you feel like she tight with her Money's like 748 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: she she wants somebody to pay her fine. 749 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 3: You feel like they let the players play because I 750 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 3: know it's not just w n b A but NBA too. 751 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 3: It just seems like they're taking too much control and 752 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,439 Speaker 3: not letting the players play. 753 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: Again. Officiating hard hard because you want them to just play, 754 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: But you also know that they can escalate and and 755 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: we know when things escalate, whether it's basketball, whether it's policing. 756 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,800 Speaker 1: We know when they escalate. We gotta we got to 757 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 1: learn how to de escalate and then allowed the players 758 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 1: to do what they do. The game, The game itself 759 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 1: is going to lend itself to whatever, whether it's really physical, 760 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: whether it's you know, free flowing, it's gonna it's gonna 761 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 1: lend itself to whatever it is. I just think that 762 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 1: officiating is a tough, tough job, not even not even that, 763 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,359 Speaker 1: Like coaches are like on your on your butt all 764 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: the time, like I'm include in me, like like it's 765 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,359 Speaker 1: it's it's it's they get I mean they get paid 766 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 1: a whole lot of money too to take that. But 767 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 1: they're they're the they're the best in our game. Like 768 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,280 Speaker 1: they're the best. If there were better people to officiate 769 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 1: the games, they would already be in the game. 770 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 3: Last question about that's the replay feature. 771 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: Like it? 772 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 2: I hate it? 773 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: I like it. I like it because officials make mistakes, right, 774 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 1: I mean, it allows you, it allows them to be 775 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: directed because because they're they're wrong. Like I would say this, 776 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: we we have officiating conversations every year when we go 777 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 1: to our spring meetings. Then it's it's if they have 778 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: a like a ninety correct call rate. 779 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 3: That's excellent, that's amazing. 780 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 1: Well what about the ten percent? Does the games really exactly? 781 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 1: What about the ten percent? Like what what's done to 782 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:37,800 Speaker 1: them for being for calling something incorrectly ten percent of 783 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: the time? That has implications up for US N Cuba seating, right, 784 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 1: like for you know, for the NBA. You know, like 785 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 1: like every game matters, right, So, I mean, you're they're 786 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 1: never going to get that part right. But it's part 787 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 1: of the game. Is it's part of the dynamics of 788 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: the game. That again is conversation, and it's we should 789 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 1: have conversation. Like I don't think the officials want us 790 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 1: to have conversation about this, but you're a part of it. 791 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: You know, you don't get you know, if I'm gonna 792 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 1: get criticized for losing, you should get criticized, but not 793 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: making a correct call. 794 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 2: I got a few more questions. I want to go 795 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 2: back to that that that chapter respect the power of 796 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 2: habits right, because when you talk about Malaysia, it is 797 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 2: with such reference. How do you balance disappointment as a coach, 798 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 2: which support for somebody like her who just wanted to 799 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 2: make a decision for usself. 800 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,840 Speaker 1: Like like if if a young person is going to 801 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 1: speak on what what what they deem is good for them? Uh, 802 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 1: that's that's half the battle. Like half the battle is 803 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 1: to be able to speak up. And you know how 804 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: hard it was for her to do that, like really hard, 805 00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:01,760 Speaker 1: really hard. So I understand that dynamics of her decision making. 806 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 1: And then it's like, okay, well what do you do 807 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 1: with it? Like if she was my player and you know, 808 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 1: there was there was a chance for her to want 809 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 1: to come back, or if she decided that this is 810 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 1: that that's not what she wanted to do. I was 811 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: going to talk to her about why why did it? 812 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: Why did it come to that? What makes you think 813 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 1: this isn't a place for you? 814 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 2: What? 815 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 1: And for whatever she said, we would we would go 816 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:35,280 Speaker 1: from there. I thought Malaysia, Malaysia was was getting better, 817 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: Like I really I saw a whole lot of growth 818 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 1: on and off the court to where like unless she 819 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: was gonna get the best of her now, like we 820 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: went through the you know, we went through the hard 821 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 1: part of just kind of smoothing some rough edges and 822 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: getting her to create good habits, Like like I do 823 00:46:55,200 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: think habits are the thing that that allows you to elevate, right, 824 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 1: I do you know? So? I think I think what 825 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: we've given her and what she's given us will will 826 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: allow her to to have much better days, much more 827 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 1: consistent days than she had with us. 828 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 2: At her next stop, did she know you felt that 829 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 2: way about her? She's gonna read the book and be like, damn, 830 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 2: you know. 831 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 1: And I want to clarify the book was written already 832 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,319 Speaker 1: before she made a decision. The book was written, you know, 833 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 1: months ago. I'm sure I share my feelings like I don't. 834 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 1: I don't have I don't. I don't hide anything. I 835 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 1: wear my heart on my shoulder. I do think my 836 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 1: Lasier really knows how I felt about her. I know 837 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 1: her mother knows. I know, you know, regardless of why 838 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 1: she came to that conclusion of of wanting to leave, 839 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,800 Speaker 1: I know she she knows she felt our love. Now, 840 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 1: you know, the playing time, the whatever, the you know, 841 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,879 Speaker 1: for us, maybe taking her out of the game when 842 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,919 Speaker 1: she felt like she wanted to just kind of keep 843 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 1: playing through some things. Now she probably questions that part 844 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 1: of it, And I'm okay with that. A lot of 845 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,840 Speaker 1: a lot of players leave because here playing time, a 846 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,799 Speaker 1: lot of people leave. It's not for it's not for 847 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 1: all the other stuff, because we treat them like royalty, 848 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 1: like royalty, like we're probably enablers when it comes to 849 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: the treatment that we give our players. 850 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 2: So I'm sure she would have started this year her junior. 851 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 1: Right, I mean who else was gonna hold her down? Like? So, yeah, 852 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't. I don't think it was. I 853 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: don't think it came down to starting, I really don't. 854 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: I think it came down to her wanting to play 855 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 1: free and do you know what what she wanted to 856 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 1: do in and who's to say she wouldn't have been 857 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 1: able to do that, you know, in her her junior year. 858 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 2: So what's the relationship with coaches? If coach Kim Lsu 859 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 2: calls you and ask for some tips on how to 860 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,360 Speaker 2: coach relaysia for a while, you give. 861 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 1: Any on your own? Wrong? Yeah, like it ain't. I 862 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:12,880 Speaker 1: ain't gonna help you help her beat us? Nah. The 863 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:18,360 Speaker 1: thing about your book like that, your stories and your experiences, baby, 864 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: this basketball texture? What was that conversation like that? What 865 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 1: was it? Because I know this you wanted to do this, 866 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,319 Speaker 1: But did they say did they give you push? Back 867 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: on it, like no, we're not able to we don't 868 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 1: know or just see just you see a woman sees 869 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,359 Speaker 1: all that that that is that's a strategic part of Yeah. 870 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: They we got the cover back right, and it was 871 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: just a smooth surface like that, like the front of it. 872 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, this would be cool if it could feel 873 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 1: like a basketball, like I mean the color, like like 874 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 1: this would be really cool. 875 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 2: Now. 876 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 1: This was really late in the process, like really late. 877 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,759 Speaker 1: They were like, oh, I don't we don't think. We 878 00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 1: don't think we could do that. And when and I 879 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 1: didn't know they were working on I didn't I didn't 880 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 1: know that they were actually got it done until I 881 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 1: got my first copy and I was like whoat, Oh wow, yes, yes, 882 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 1: like I didn't want that, liket, this is so created. 883 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 2: Yes, congratulations on your statue in Columbia, South Carolina. You 884 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 2: and Asia Wilson got statues in Columbia. What would it 885 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 2: take for a player to get a statue at the 886 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 2: University of South Carolina? Because I know they coming they 887 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 2: be like, damn, Asia got one, what can I do 888 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 2: to get that? 889 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 1: I mean Boston Ali Boston had a incredible career, Like 890 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 1: she did some things that Asia didn't do like she 891 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 1: she really did did some things that Asia didn't do. 892 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,760 Speaker 1: I think when it when it comes in her impact, 893 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 1: like I think Asia the total person of proximity to 894 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:57,280 Speaker 1: South Carolina really helped her calls, you know. But Alia 895 00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 1: from a basketball perspective, from a community like she is 896 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,439 Speaker 1: all about community and what she stands for. Like she's 897 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 1: a young lady. That's really I mean if she was 898 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,360 Speaker 1: from South Carolina, there will already be a statue like 899 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 1: already and you know the trajectory of her career, her 900 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 1: impact that she'll have in the w n B A 901 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:28,480 Speaker 1: I do think she's an Olympian. I I I'll start 902 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 1: the campaign of getting Aliyah. I mean Asia's and my 903 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 1: statue are like two blocks from each other. You know, 904 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 1: why not go two more blocks and you can hear 905 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,319 Speaker 1: all the statues for Aaliyah, all the statues in in 906 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:42,839 Speaker 1: one pot. 907 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,640 Speaker 2: But'll win more championships. 908 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: So we we we? Yeah? I willing yes. 909 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 2: Final question, Charlotte Sting, why can't we bring them back 910 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:54,800 Speaker 2: to the Carolina. 911 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get I get this question, and I get 912 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 1: this question about Philly too, because Philly, Philly wants to 913 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 1: wants a w NBA team. I do think the Hornets 914 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,479 Speaker 1: and the Sixers got to do better. They gotta do better. 915 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 1: They gotta do better, you know, Like it's I think 916 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 1: it's great when when the NBA team is doing great, 917 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,799 Speaker 1: it helps with the whole conroderie. But I do think 918 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 1: I will say this, Sorry Philly, Sorry Philly, but I 919 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 1: do think Charlotte's more ready for w NBA team just 920 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 1: from a fan perspective, like we draw like we are. 921 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:39,799 Speaker 1: We we draw were the highest attended games in the 922 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,720 Speaker 1: country at South Carolina like for the for the past 923 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 1: ten years. Like no one's outdrawing us over the past 924 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 1: ten years. So I do think I do think we're 925 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 1: ready from that perspective. But it's it's more than fan support, 926 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's a business. It's resources. Who's going to 927 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 1: pour in to the team. If the team doesn't do 928 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,320 Speaker 1: well in the first year or two, which is highly likely, 929 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:09,760 Speaker 1: will there be enough you know, resources pour poured into 930 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: a team. 931 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:12,879 Speaker 2: We can put together the right investment group. 932 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 1: I think so too. I'm down because people want me 933 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 1: to coach in the w I don't. I don't want 934 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 1: to coach in I want to own. I want I 935 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 1: want ownership there. 936 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,080 Speaker 2: You have it. I would invest. I got a little dollars. 937 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 2: I got a couple of dollars. Well, thank you, Don. 938 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 2: New book Uncommon Favor of Basketball in North Philly, my 939 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,879 Speaker 2: mother in the life Lessons I learned from all three 940 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 2: is available everywhere you buy books. Now go get it. 941 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,439 Speaker 2: You are guaranteed to learn something. You are a living Don. 942 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,879 Speaker 2: We appreciate your presence on this earth. We thank God 943 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 2: for you. 944 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. 945 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,960 Speaker 2: And listen. I want everybody to remember that today Don 946 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 2: Staley will be at the Barnes and Noble Fifth Avenue 947 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,479 Speaker 2: in New York City. If you're in New York City, 948 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 2: you can go see Don Staley at Barns and Noble 949 00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,200 Speaker 2: one pm today, five five five Fifth Avenue in New York. 950 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,319 Speaker 2: Go get a copy of Uncommon Favor, signed Don. Thank 951 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 2: you again. It's the Breakfast Club. 952 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 1: Good morning, Wake that ass up in the morning. 953 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club