WEBVTT - Talkin Cowboys_2_25.mp3 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:05.520 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:14.320 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys This He's Talking 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:16.880 Cowboys Screaming Live from. 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:18.440 The Dallas Cowboys World. 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:27.040 Tours at the Star in Frisco, sec Dot Tixon Touchdown 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:33.400 and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:43.239 and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:45.240 Welcome into Talking Cowboys by Black Rifle Coffee Company live 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:47.360 from the Star in Frisco, Texas and the. 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:49.640 S WBC Studios. 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:51.600 Baby, We've got the whole cast and crew ready for 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:56.080 you to rock today. Patrick Nocy, Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:56.560 stand back. 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:59.280 That is I Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:02.760 Gally, you can't. 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:04.480 I don't know if you can say that on air. 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:05.720 I can it. 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:08.600 We can eat your oats on the internet too. You said, 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:09.840 well you can get your oats on the internet. 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:11.680 You can't get your oats something you can do that, 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.200 get that on the internet too, no doubt about it. 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:17.319 Welcome in, everybody, Glad you're with us. Lots to catch 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:23.000 up on over the last week. Right now in Indianapolis, 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:30.480 the NFL Combine is underway, which means information is flying. 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:31.080 Around the NFL. 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:33.679 There's a lot going on across the board, whether it's 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:38.319 from a fron office standpoint, from a draft standpoint, scouting players, coaches, 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:41.640 all sorts of stuff is kind of happening all at 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:44.000 the same time in Indianapolis, and we're gonna break it 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.120 down for you as we go along here over this 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.640 next hour. But before we get into any of that, 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.200 the biggest news of the week after we were last 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:56.520 on the air, Zach Martin is expected to retire the 0:01:56.800 --> 0:02:01.800 seven time first Team All Pro, time total All Pro, 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:04.840 and first ballot Hall of Famer. 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:06.600 I would like to say forward. 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:12.000 I mean, there's been three Cowboys in franchise history that 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:13.640 have had seven first. 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:14.160 Team All Pro? 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:14.800 Who are they? 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:15.360 Comedies? 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:20.280 Randy White pretty Good, Bob Lily and Zach Martin, the Manster, 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:22.720 Mister Cowboy and the Gold There you go, and the 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:27.480 first two were what they were, first ballot Hall of Famers. 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:31.040 So next top Canton, Yeah, next top Canton. 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.160 For Zack Martin, it's just a matter of win, not 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:35.920 if his career comes to a close. We kind of 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.520 alluded to it a little bit last week, and there 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.440 was a feeling around the building that it was done. 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:44.959 Missed the final seven games due to injury, and it 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:48.040 kind of it felt like it was the right time 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.720 to ride off into the sunset. The offensive line has 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.040 some depth that they can work with behind him. They 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:57.320 played well without him up front, not the same as 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:02.280 strengthened prime Zach Martin, but still it was a bummer 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:04.000 to see that his career is coming to an end 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:05.560 because it was a hell of a career to watch. 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.760 Yeah, we've been talking about it for the large majority 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:11.560 of last season because you know, just more and more 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:13.680 as it went on, you saw what used to be 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.600 a resident iron man in Zach Martin. I mean, it's 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.000 not so long ago that we could point at Zach 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:22.079 Martin and know that every single snap, every single week, 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:24.079 that he would be on the field, And just over 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:27.040 the past season plus, I'd say, his body just started 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.600 to kind of not let that be the case anymore, 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:33.760 and his play suffered because of it. And unfortunately, we 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.840 saw a situation where you know, Zach went down with 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.680 the season ending ankle injury and brought Kaffman, to his credit, 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:41.720 was able to come in and stabilize things. But if 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:46.920 you're talking about losing Zach Martin and gaining stability. That 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:51.560 tells you where he was in the career. So incomparable career, 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.040 I cannot think Zach Martin enough for what he did 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.640 for this organization. I hate that it's another legend going 0:03:56.640 --> 0:04:00.480 out without some jewelry, but it doesn't in fact, not 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:03.360 only in the Zach Martin era, but it ends that 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:07.200 particular era when we're talking about Tyrone Smith, Zach Martin, 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:13.000 Travis Frederick, Frederick having retired to the GPS, GBS. So yeah, 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.599 it was time, most certainly. And like you said, Josh, 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:18.520 next stop is Canton for sure. 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:20.440 I mean when I think of Zach Martin, I always 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:23.320 think of the draft party that was at at and 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:24.040 T Stadium. 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:25.320 I was at that draft party. 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:26.040 Were you really? 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:27.479 I was at that draft party. 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:30.360 And I remember the crowd at the time our pick 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:33.839 was up. We were on the clock. Everyone's chanting not 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:40.280 Zach Martin, Johnny Football. And I was there like no, please, no, 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.560 And Zach Martin's name was announced and there was a. 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:46.080 Flutter around the room. 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:50.440 The room, being at and T Stadium was like who's that? 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.760 But ended up being one of the greatest Dallas Cowboys 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:57.440 ever of all time. I will never forget that moment 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:01.000 when we drafted him, feeling confident about like, Okay, we 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.279 like what we have here. Let's build behind a great 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:08.159 quarterback that we already have and protect him. To me, 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:11.160 the legacy of Zach Martin, will I mean for that 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.440 to happen before I started working here, and then for 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:16.000 my very first season to be the Zach Martin hold 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:19.800 out at camp time? You know, tis a flat circle, 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:21.919 at least personally for me, obviously. 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:22.840 The his. 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:26.559 Legacy speaks for itself, it really does. 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:28.800 And seeing him out there each and every week knowing 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:31.200 confidently he's not going to get a holding call and 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.760 he's going to play his ass off right us. 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:38.080 Another ridiculous stat you drive what is the stats? So 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:38.960 repeat it? 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:39.520 Repeat it? 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:42.680 For the number of first team All pros, I outlined 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:47.200 that earlier seven number of accepted holding penalties throughout his 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:53.640 what was it eleven year seven, the same amounts of 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.200 first team not just all pros. He actually had more 0:05:56.200 --> 0:06:00.600 All Pro nods than he did except hold hold penalties, 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:04.159 but first team All Pro nons He had the exact 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:04.760 same number. 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:05.360 Seven. 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:08.400 Insane and his legacy speaks for itself. Like I said, 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:12.640 next up Ken obviously, but it is interesting to see 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:15.600 how the offensive line is going to change now with 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:17.880 the with Zach Martin moving on. 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:21.440 I think that this most recent year was a transition 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:23.440 piece for them, and I think, you know, how he's 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:25.200 going out is obviously not the way that he wants 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:27.240 to go out, but honestly, I think it's more beneficial 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:29.920 for the Cowboys organization. But in terms of what he's 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:32.440 been to this organization, you guys have already hit on it, 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:34.680 and you guys already touched on everything. He's an amazing 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:38.560 human being, first and foremost great family man. You know 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:40.159 what he did on the field, what he did for 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:42.479 his teammates, and what he did for this offensive line. 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.680 For all these years, you always knew that you have 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:46.800 one solid piece that you never had to worry about. 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:50.560 And whenever you can have somebody on your team that 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:52.920 you don't have to be concerned about whether or not 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:54.880 they're going to come prepared, whether or not they're going 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:57.200 to come with their right mindset, and whether they are 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:01.000 going to deliver in terms of performance, is that you know, 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:03.279 he is that guy. He has been that guy for 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.920 the Dallas Cowboys and he will get rewarded for that. 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:09.240 And to ensure that everybody going forward, forever and ever 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:12.880 will always remember who he was in the league standard. 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:14.880 I'll just say I'll be the first to say, you know, 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:18.240 you're welcome on Talking Cowboys whenever you're ready to be 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:19.520 an official host. 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:24.640 Of Bigger Cheer, A bigger cheer A large human that's 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:25.960 this chair can fit. 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:26.880 Nate Newton. 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:30.480 First first dips on on Zach Martin. 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.520 Yeah, we called it. He's gonna be there's gonna be 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.720 an extra mind right here if he wants it. I 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:38.240 don't see Zach as that type of personality. What do 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:40.240 you mean, He's not Jason Kelsey's. 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:40.760 He would. 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.200 I think it's more likely he would go into coaching 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.480 than it would be broadcasting, and I don't think either 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:46.640 one of them is possible. 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:50.360 I think he's gonna just family, hang family, family, Yeah. 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.320 I think which is I think the testament to who 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.440 he is as a person and what he's done throughout 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.880 his career to kind of earn that that point. So yeah, 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:01.240 whatever he ends up doing next, h we certainly wish 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:02.920 him the best. And I think there's going to be 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.400 an official announcement at some point because all of this 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:07.680 is reports and that he had told the team, and 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:09.840 that was kind of the initial stuff. There will be 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.440 an official announcement. And another thing to keep in mind, 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:16.240 there will be a cut because his contract is still there. 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:19.160 And even though he's a what is it an exclusive 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:22.720 rights free agent or one of those, he's got void years. 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:23.360 He's got a void year. 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:25.800 How does that work in regards to the cap? Do 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.200 you guys know when somebody retires, what does that do 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:31.600 to their contract? Because it's not like just cutting somebody. 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:35.080 Right, the rest of that guaranteed money is on your cap. 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:36.920 And spread out over those foid years. 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:40.040 I believe it would save you actually cap space because 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:42.960 it's treated like a pro rate. Yeah, so you don't 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:46.040 take the entire the entirety of the remaining hit as 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:49.280 a one time so amateurize, right exactly, So. 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:53.240 Over time, Like like you said, there's but there will 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:55.480 be a cut first off, So don't be alarmed whenever 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:58.080 it says like it pops up and there's a bleacher. 0:08:57.920 --> 0:08:59.880 Don't do it though, I'm not gonna do it. 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:03.679 Uh, there's a bleacher report not notification that Cowboys showed 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.680 ten time pro bowler, I mean and seven times first 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:07.760 the door. 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:09.880 Somebody's gonna do it. Don't click on it. 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:11.040 It's stupid. Don't click. 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:13.679 Yeah, shut like it, just don't. 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.320 Don't les procedural procedure part of it. 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:19.319 So with that being said, and Isaiah, you kind of 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:20.880 alluded to this earlier, what's. 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:22.439 Next for the Cowboys offensive line? 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:22.920 Where do you go? 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:23.160 Pa? 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:25.120 Here? I mean, I think we've been hearing some murmurs. 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.000 You know, don't know anything until obviously these guys start 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.600 stepping on the field for OTAs and the draft is 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.120 done and free agency kind of goes through. I don't 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:35.440 think you have a full understanding. But in regards to 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:39.160 who we currently have on this roster, it's sounding like, yeah, 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:42.400 I says, sounding like, sounding like, sounding like they like 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.400 Hoffman potentially at the center position, and they're planning on 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:48.400 moving Cooper b B to the right guard position. That's 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:51.280 what I'm hearing again, it's all rumors. We don't know 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:52.880 until they step on the field and we see us 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:55.559 a ball snapped. But if they were to do that, 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:58.400 that makes sense because they were trying to teach Cooper 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.080 b B to play center and that's not his natural position. 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:05.320 Now obviously there's a void that was not there originally. 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:07.240 If Zach Martin it wasn't in the car. 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:08.520 It wasn't there before. 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:10.400 So now if he does walk away from the game 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:12.880 of football, now there's a large See what I did there, 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.280 There's a large void there at the right guard position. 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:18.600 So I can move now Cooper BB to his more 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:24.800 natural position, and I could put the Brahma bull with 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:25.840 his hand on the bar replay. 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.520 So I'll read to you guys, because Stephen Jones and 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:31.760 Tommy Yarsh is in Indie right now. He beat us 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:33.480 by a couple of days. He's doing sensational work. He 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:35.439 spoke with Stephen Jones and Stephen Jones. 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:36.560 Yeah man. 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:42.520 Stephen Jones basically echoed a sentiment that Connor Riley told 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:46.040 us in availability early last week. This is a quote 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.600 from Connor Riley, which if you don't remember, he is 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.880 now the former offensive coordinator and offensive line coach of 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:57.800 one Kansas State University. Which is what did Cooper BB? Yeah, 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.440 there you go, Manhattan, and we ain't talking about New York. 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:03.439 Yeah, little apple, right, the little one right, And I quote. 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:05.280 I think one of the best things about Cooper BB 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:08.720 is his versatility. He was a two time All American 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.480 at guard for Kansas State, started some games at tackle 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:15.160 and right guard dot dot dot. He gives us an 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:18.560 opportunity to find the best fit for everybody up front. 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:22.080 End quote, this is Connor Riley, your new offensive line coach, 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:26.079 previously an offensive line coach for Cooper BB, basically letting 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:29.280 you know that they're going into the OTAs and mini 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:32.760 camp and training camp looking for the best five up front. 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.640 So as we have this conversation, Cooper BB is still 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:37.920 the center, but it does sound like to your point, Isaiah, 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:38.760 that could change. 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:40.040 It's a very fluid situation. 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:42.800 You might see brock Hoffman go over the center, but 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:45.520 it's also contingent upon what does or does not happen 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:47.640 in free agency, what does does not happen with the 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:51.360 NFL draft. But you love to hear this from Connor Riley, 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:53.400 heard it from Clayton Adams. You're hearing it echoed by 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:58.440 Stephen Jones. Cowboys are no longer going into this situation saying, well, 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.120 you know, no matter what, he's going to be here, 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:04.000 he's going to be here. I think the only places 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:07.160 I'll say plural, we had three places. No, Ter Steele 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:09.400 is at right tackle, yep, we know, Tyler Smith is 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:12.040 at left guard and I'll go ahead and say Tyler 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:15.439 Guidon is left tackle because Tyler Smith is right guard. 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:18.720 So as far as center versus right guard is concerned, 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:21.600 I think it's going to be a battle in Connor 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:23.360 Riley and Clayton Adams. They're going to figure out what 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:24.720 the best front five looks like. 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:27.960 I mean, I love what fans have been warning for 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:28.560 so long. 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:31.400 Sure, well, I alluded to the question last week, and honestly, 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.680 it wasn't because of the Zach Martin, the lingering Zach 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:35.520 Martin future that was not in the cards for me. 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:40.600 I was genuinely curious before Zach Martin is not going 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:46.720 to be here? Yeah, does twelve sound like a or 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:48.400 does offensive line sound like a pick? 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:50.800 They would make it twelve. This is before all of 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:51.400 this happened. 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.199 And now I'm like, okay, well, this kind of seems 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:57.720 like that is a clear indication to me that it's 0:12:57.760 --> 0:12:58.600 a spot you look at. 0:12:58.720 --> 0:12:59.160 For sure. 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.560 I think if the right player is there at twelve, 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:05.200 they'll take him there. But I don't know if there's 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:09.800 that right player in this draft. If any other draft 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:13.120 across the board, I think I would say Dallas in 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.000 this same scenario because I completely agree with you. I 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:17.960 think in this scenario, you would say, let's build for 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.280 the future. Let's build around Guid and let's build around Smith, 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.240 Let's build around bb and we'll have four guys up 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:25.439 front that we are very confident in, and then we'll 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:26.040 figure out. 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:26.480 The fitth spot. 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.319 I guess Terren Steele would probably be that odd man 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.560 out there in terms of value draft picks and value 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:37.679 of youth moving forward. Whereas this year, I'm looking at 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:39.559 this offensive line class, and we've talked about this a 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:43.600 couple times on the Draft Show. There's just something that's 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:46.600 not clicking for every one of these top offensive lineman. 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:48.440 Now there's a couple of them, but those couple of 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.719 them probably aren't gonna make it to twelve because they 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:52.320 don't have any red flags on them. 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:53.480 But if it's a red. 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.160 Flag from a medical or a size or a position 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.920 fit or whatever, it ends up being twelve might not 0:13:59.040 --> 0:13:59.640 be right. 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:01.480 Face man, We can. 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:05.040 Make that if it turns out that we need Kelvin 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:07.360 Banks or somebody Will Campbell or some of these other 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:11.720 guys whoever it ends up being up front. I think 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:15.040 there's ten in the top ten picks of this NFL draft. 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:16.920 I think there's gonna be one or two offensive lineman 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:18.880 and you're gonna have your pick of the third or 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:23.120 fourth fifth best offensive lineman in this draft class. But 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:24.840 if you were to compare that to the twenty two 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:28.040 to twenty three, twenty four draft class, I think your third, 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.640 fourth fifth best offensive lineman in this class would probably 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.320 be more like eight, nine ten in those other classes. 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:35.120 It's just this. 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.120 I'll make mine quick and I'll throw it back to you, guys. 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:42.280 I wouldn't go offensive line at number twelve. I just wouldn't. 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:44.960 And I don't think that the Zach News changes that 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:47.280 for me because that's where I was standing before Rick 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.480 was expected to retire, and now that he is expected 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.440 to retire, my needle doesn't move as far as would 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.440 I go. You know, offensive line at twelve, No in 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.480 this situation, and Kyle lays it out perfectly. When it 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.360 comes to this class, I would be much morefortable in 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.040 a trade back situation. If your hell bent on getting 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:03.880 an offensive. 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:04.040 I'm down for them. 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:05.200 We talked about that last week. 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.440 I think I would trade down, get more picks, and 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.120 then go oil. I wouldn't just go outright at number 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:14.520 twelve for oil. I'm reserving number twelve for an Ashton 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:17.360 Genty if he's there, or a top shelf wide receiver 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:19.000 if he's there, and you just know that if you 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:19.520 move back. 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:20.480 You're going to lose that on that guy. 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:23.760 But offensive line, I think that because I've seen what 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:28.440 brock Hoffman can be, I'm comfortable enough to kind of. 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:29.320 Sit tight there. 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:31.760 So either it's a trade back situation or it's something 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:33.080 that you address in the second round. 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.280 But I think it also lends itself to choosing the 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:39.680 best player available at twelve regardless, because there are positions, 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:42.160 There are positions in need all over the board, across 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:42.480 the board. 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:47.320 For the Dallas Cowboys, J Stee's on YouTube says. 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:50.040 Leave bb alone, put him at center. He's got a 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:52.320 full season at center. Man, what are we doing often 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:53.240 is a good backup? 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:54.920 I'm kind of in that camp. 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:59.320 But why speak on it, because I just think I 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:01.200 don't believe that a natural position for him at the 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:01.760 center position. 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.560 He was better than Hoffman at center, okay, and that's 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:07.160 where I'm at. Okay, he was better than haff Minute, 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:09.160 So so then why swap is why? 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:09.440 So? 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.600 Why mess with I like Bebe's frame better for gard 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:14.360 I like him better at guard. 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:16.840 I don't. I don't know that. 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:22.120 If I'm going to have a Brahma bull in this 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:25.440 kitchen right five office alignment, I want him at center. 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:27.200 I want broadcast center. 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.240 I want I want that mentality at center because that 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:33.360 person touches the ball every single play. That person is 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.040 going to be the point on every single play. Versus 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.640 having that person offset to one side or the other. 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:39.560 That's just me. 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:44.280 If you're just talking about like glass eater aggressive mentality. Yes, okay, 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:46.640 you had that with Tyler Biadash and it didn't necessarily 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:47.040 work out. 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:50.600 He's working out somewhere else, true, but. 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:51.600 It didn't work out here. 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:55.440 A question though, what was Brock Coffin's worst game last year? 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:57.960 I would have to go back, I wanted to. 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:01.200 I want to say it was the Philadelphia probably probably, 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:03.480 And you would have put him at the center against 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:05.000 a team like that twice a year. 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.840 Listen, this coaching staff that we're now having place, these 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:10.800 guys are supposed to be jedis when it comes to 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:12.520 the old question would be this, and this is the 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.480 question the Cowboys would have to answer in this scenario 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:18.720 is the career And they had to answer this for 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:19.320 Tyler Smith. 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:23.280 Is the career for Cooper BB. Does it have a 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:27.680 higher ceiling at guard than at center? Because if it's 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.119 at guard, then I'm with you putting him at guard, 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:32.879 and then maybe you draft your center if brought Koffman, 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:34.040 if you need an upgrade over. 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.000 So it's the way you view the set, it's the 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:36.960 way you view that. 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:41.040 If you think that his ceiling, being Cooper BB, is 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:43.240 higher at center, then you leave him there and you 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:44.320 leave brockoff in at guard. 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:46.040 I think that's the crux of what the argument is going. 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:48.399 I'm gonna I'm gonna literally put the trust in this 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:49.280 on these coaches. 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:52.240 I'm literally in considering who we're talking about, Connor Riley 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:55.560 and Clayton Adams. I'm let's let them cook. Listen. 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:56.960 I can have an opinion all day long, but I 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:59.120 think those guys have a good idea. If they're coming 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:01.359 in and it sounds like they're moving Cooper BB to 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:03.800 right guard, then I have full confidence that that's the 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:06.639 most advantageous position for him and the offensive line. 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:09.800