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Speaker 2: Gally, you can't.

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Speaker 2: We can eat your oats on the internet too. You said,

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Speaker 2: well you can get your oats on the internet.

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Speaker 3: You can't get your oats something you can do that,

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Speaker 3: get that on the internet too, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: Welcome in, everybody, Glad you're with us. Lots to catch

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Speaker 3: up on over the last week. Right now in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 3: the NFL Combine is underway, which means information is flying.

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Speaker 2: Around the NFL.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot going on across the board, whether it's

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Speaker 3: from a fron office standpoint, from a draft standpoint, scouting players, coaches,

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Speaker 3: all sorts of stuff is kind of happening all at

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Speaker 3: the same time in Indianapolis, and we're gonna break it

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Speaker 3: down for you as we go along here over this

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Speaker 3: next hour. But before we get into any of that,

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Speaker 3: the biggest news of the week after we were last

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Speaker 3: on the air, Zach Martin is expected to retire the

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Speaker 3: seven time first Team All Pro, time total All Pro,

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Speaker 2: I would like to say forward.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's been three Cowboys in franchise history that

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Speaker 3: have had seven first.

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Speaker 4: Team All Pro?

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Speaker 6: Who are they?

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Speaker 4: Comedies?

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Speaker 7: Randy White pretty Good, Bob Lily and Zach Martin, the Manster,

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Speaker 7: Mister Cowboy and the Gold There you go, and the

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Speaker 7: first two were what they were, first ballot Hall of Famers.

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Speaker 4: So next top Canton, Yeah, next top Canton.

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Speaker 3: For Zack Martin, it's just a matter of win, not

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Speaker 3: if his career comes to a close. We kind of

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Speaker 3: alluded to it a little bit last week, and there

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Speaker 3: was a feeling around the building that it was done.

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Speaker 3: Missed the final seven games due to injury, and it

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Speaker 3: kind of it felt like it was the right time

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Speaker 3: some depth that they can work with behind him. They

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Speaker 3: played well without him up front, not the same as

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Speaker 3: strengthened prime Zach Martin, but still it was a bummer

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Speaker 3: to see that his career is coming to an end

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Speaker 3: because it was a hell of a career to watch.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we've been talking about it for the large majority

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Speaker 7: of last season because you know, just more and more

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Speaker 7: as it went on, you saw what used to be

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Speaker 7: not so long ago that we could point at Zach

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Speaker 7: that he would be on the field, And just over

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Speaker 7: the past season plus, I'd say, his body just started

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Speaker 7: and his play suffered because of it. And unfortunately, we

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Speaker 7: saw a situation where you know, Zach went down with

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Speaker 7: was able to come in and stabilize things. But if

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Speaker 7: you're talking about losing Zach Martin and gaining stability. That

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Speaker 7: tells you where he was in the career. So incomparable career,

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Speaker 7: I cannot think Zach Martin enough for what he did

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Speaker 7: for this organization. I hate that it's another legend going

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Speaker 7: out without some jewelry, but it doesn't in fact, not

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Speaker 7: only in the Zach Martin era, but it ends that

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Speaker 7: it was time, most certainly. And like you said, Josh,

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Speaker 8: I mean when I think of Zach Martin, I always

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Speaker 6: I was at that draft party.

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Speaker 4: Were you really?

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Speaker 6: I was at that draft party.

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Speaker 8: And I remember the crowd at the time our pick

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Speaker 8: And Zach Martin's name was announced and there was a.

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Speaker 8: The room, being at and T Stadium was like who's that?

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Speaker 8: But ended up being one of the greatest Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 8: when we drafted him, feeling confident about like, Okay, we

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Speaker 8: like what we have here. Let's build behind a great

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Speaker 8: the legacy of Zach Martin, will I mean for that

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Speaker 8: to happen before I started working here, and then for

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Speaker 2: The his.

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Speaker 6: Legacy speaks for itself, it really does.

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Speaker 8: And seeing him out there each and every week knowing

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Speaker 8: he's going to play his ass off right us.

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Speaker 2: Another ridiculous stat you drive what is the stats? So

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Speaker 2: repeat it?

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Speaker 5: Repeat it?

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Speaker 3: For the number of first team All pros, I outlined

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Speaker 3: that earlier seven number of accepted holding penalties throughout his

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Speaker 3: what was it eleven year seven, the same amounts of

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Speaker 3: first team not just all pros. He actually had more

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Speaker 3: but first team All Pro nons He had the exact

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Speaker 2: Seven.

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Speaker 8: Insane and his legacy speaks for itself. Like I said,

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Speaker 8: next up Ken obviously, but it is interesting to see

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Speaker 9: I think that this most recent year was a transition

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Speaker 9: to go out, but honestly, I think it's more beneficial

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Speaker 9: and you guys already touched on everything. He's an amazing

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Speaker 9: For all these years, you always knew that you have

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Speaker 9: And whenever you can have somebody on your team that

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Speaker 9: he is that guy. He has been that guy for

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Speaker 9: the Dallas Cowboys and he will get rewarded for that.

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Speaker 9: And to ensure that everybody going forward, forever and ever

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Speaker 8: I'll just say I'll be the first to say, you know,

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Speaker 8: you're welcome on Talking Cowboys whenever you're ready to be

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Speaker 8: an official host.

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Speaker 7: Of Bigger Cheer, A bigger cheer A large human that's

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Speaker 2: Nate Newton.

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Speaker 6: First first dips on on Zach Martin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we called it. He's gonna be there's gonna be

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Speaker 3: don't see Zach as that type of personality. What do

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Speaker 2: He would.

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Speaker 3: I think it's more likely he would go into coaching

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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna just family, hang family, family, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think which is I think the testament to who

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Speaker 3: whatever he ends up doing next, h we certainly wish

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Speaker 3: And even though he's a what is it an exclusive

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Speaker 2: He's got a void year.

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Speaker 9: How does that work in regards to the cap? Do

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Speaker 9: you guys know when somebody retires, what does that do

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Speaker 9: to their contract? Because it's not like just cutting somebody.

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Speaker 3: Right, the rest of that guaranteed money is on your cap.

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Speaker 2: And spread out over those foid years.

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Speaker 7: I believe it would save you actually cap space because

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Speaker 7: it's treated like a pro rate. Yeah, so you don't

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Speaker 7: a one time so amateurize, right exactly, So.

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Speaker 3: Over time, Like like you said, there's but there will

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Speaker 4: Don't do it though, I'm not gonna do it.

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Speaker 3: Uh, there's a bleacher report not notification that Cowboys showed

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Speaker 3: ten time pro bowler, I mean and seven times first

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Speaker 4: Somebody's gonna do it. Don't click on it.

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Speaker 2: It's stupid. Don't click.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, shut like it, just don't.

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Speaker 2: Don't les procedural procedure part of it.

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Speaker 3: So with that being said, and Isaiah, you kind of

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Speaker 3: alluded to this earlier, what's.

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Speaker 4: Next for the Cowboys offensive line?

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Speaker 2: Where do you go?

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Speaker 2: Here? I mean, I think we've been hearing some murmurs.

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Speaker 9: You know, don't know anything until obviously these guys start

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Speaker 9: done and free agency kind of goes through. I don't

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Speaker 9: think you have a full understanding. But in regards to

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Speaker 9: who we currently have on this roster, it's sounding like, yeah,

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Speaker 9: I says, sounding like, sounding like, sounding like they like

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Speaker 9: what I'm hearing again, it's all rumors. We don't know

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Speaker 9: a ball snapped. But if they were to do that,

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Speaker 9: b B to play center and that's not his natural position.

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Speaker 9: Now obviously there's a void that was not there originally.

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Speaker 4: If Zach Martin it wasn't in the car.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't there before.

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Speaker 7: So I'll read to you guys, because Stephen Jones and

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Speaker 7: Tommy Yarsh is in Indie right now. He beat us

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Speaker 7: by a couple of days. He's doing sensational work. He

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Speaker 7: one Kansas State University. Which is what did Cooper BB? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, little apple, right, the little one right, And I quote.

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Speaker 7: I think one of the best things about Cooper BB

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Speaker 7: So as we have this conversation, Cooper BB is still

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Speaker 7: You might see brock Hoffman go over the center, but

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Speaker 7: heard it from Clayton Adams. You're hearing it echoed by

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Speaker 7: you know, no matter what, he's going to be here,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I love what fans have been warning for

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Speaker 8: I was genuinely curious before Zach Martin is not going

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Speaker 6: They would make it twelve. This is before all of

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Speaker 8: And now I'm like, okay, well, this kind of seems

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Speaker 4: For sure.

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Speaker 3: I think if the right player is there at twelve,

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Speaker 3: Let's build around bb and we'll have four guys up

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Speaker 2: The fitth spot.

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Speaker 3: I guess Terren Steele would probably be that odd man

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Speaker 3: this offensive line class, and we've talked about this a

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Speaker 3: couple times on the Draft Show. There's just something that's

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Speaker 3: not clicking for every one of these top offensive lineman.

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Speaker 3: Now there's a couple of them, but those couple of

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Speaker 2: But if it's a red.

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Speaker 2: Face man, We can.

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Speaker 3: Make that if it turns out that we need Kelvin

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Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be one or two offensive lineman

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Speaker 3: if you were to compare that to the twenty two

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Speaker 3: fourth fifth best offensive lineman in this class would probably

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Speaker 2: It's just this.

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Speaker 7: I'll make mine quick and I'll throw it back to you, guys.

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't go offensive line at number twelve. I just wouldn't.

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Speaker 7: And I don't think that the Zach News changes that

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Speaker 7: I go. You know, offensive line at twelve, No in

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Speaker 7: this situation, and Kyle lays it out perfectly. When it

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Speaker 4: I'm down for them.

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Speaker 6: We talked about that last week.

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Speaker 7: I think I would trade down, get more picks, and

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Speaker 7: twelve for oil. I'm reserving number twelve for an Ashton

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Speaker 2: You're going to lose that on that guy.

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Speaker 7: But offensive line, I think that because I've seen what

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Speaker 7: brock Hoffman can be, I'm comfortable enough to kind of.

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Speaker 2: Sit tight there.

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Speaker 7: So either it's a trade back situation or it's something

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Speaker 8: But I think it also lends itself to choosing the

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Speaker 6: For the Dallas Cowboys, J Stee's on YouTube says.

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Speaker 8: Leave bb alone, put him at center. He's got a

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Speaker 8: full season at center. Man, what are we doing often

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of in that camp.

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Speaker 9: But why speak on it, because I just think I

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Speaker 3: He was better than Hoffman at center, okay, and that's

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Speaker 3: So so then why swap is why?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 9: Why mess with I like Bebe's frame better for gard

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Speaker 9: I like him better at guard.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know that.

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Speaker 9: If I'm going to have a Brahma bull in this

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Speaker 2: I want broadcast center.

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Speaker 9: I want I want that mentality at center because that

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Speaker 2: That's just me.

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Speaker 3: If you're just talking about like glass eater aggressive mentality. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 3: you had that with Tyler Biadash and it didn't necessarily

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Speaker 2: He's working out somewhere else, true, but.

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Speaker 4: It didn't work out here.

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Speaker 6: A question though, what was Brock Coffin's worst game last year?

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Speaker 9: Listen, this coaching staff that we're now having place, these

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Speaker 7: Is the career for Cooper BB. Does it have a

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Speaker 2: So it's the way you view the set, it's the

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Speaker 7: If you think that his ceiling, being Cooper BB, is

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Speaker 7: leave brockoff in at guard.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the crux of what the argument is going.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna I'm gonna literally put the trust in this

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Speaker 2: I'm literally in considering who we're talking about, Connor Riley

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Speaker 9: I can have an opinion all day long, but I

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Speaker 3: So just going back to the conversation of Hoffman and

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Speaker 3: because we don't have the film in front of us

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Speaker 2: That was his worst graded game.

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Speaker 3: He gave up three pressures, he gave up one sack,

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Speaker 2: At right guard. Took it all at right guard.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Like I said, I'm looking forward to the coaching.

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Speaker 9: Like I really believe that most fans, Okay, this is

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Speaker 9: coach Settenheimer to have brought in two O line specialists,

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Speaker 2: Right, your officive coordinator and now your officive line coach.

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Speaker 9: That is their wheelhouse, like, that's where they feel most confident,

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Speaker 9: They're both gonna say coaching old lineman, that's awesome to

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Speaker 9: and look at what they've done. And if you have

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Speaker 9: which is what they're at. Every coach that's spoken on

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Speaker 9: He talked about the physicality. I'm just I'm talking about him.

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Speaker 9: I'm talking about the character of this an identity of

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Speaker 9: You want that he has that naturally or ornately has that?

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Speaker 9: Develop it now? Develop it?

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Speaker 9: You talk about people that people are ready to write

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Speaker 9: let's move on from Terryce Steell. We know Terry still

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Speaker 9: ain't no punk, right, ter Terres still ain't no punt.

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Speaker 2: That one thing we know.

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Speaker 4: About him that because he was maybe initially and know

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Speaker 9: Has never been a punt he Stilley always wanted to

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Speaker 9: smoke right, always want to I.

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Speaker 3: Think back to the one game against what was it

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Speaker 3: twenty one? Was it Washington where he got he was

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Speaker 3: he was kind of off to the side and somebody

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Speaker 3: got into him off It might have been Martin, It

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Speaker 3: might have been Zach Martin that got into him. I

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Speaker 3: don't have to go back and do my research, but

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Speaker 3: I'm going back to twenty one where it was a

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Speaker 3: rookie season, just kind of getting into it, trying to

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Speaker 3: work it, or that was the second year. Then he

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Speaker 3: he didn't let it happen again. At that point, sometimes

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Speaker 3: you got to talk him from Sometimes, yeah, you gotta.

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Speaker 2: Learn from there and move on.

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Speaker 9: Well, from that point, he never had any question marks

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Speaker 9: about his willingness and his dog mentality.

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Speaker 2: Develop them right.

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Speaker 9: I'm looking forward to seeing how these guys come along,

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Speaker 9: because where they're at now is not where they're going

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Speaker 9: to be when the season starts. If these coaches are

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Speaker 9: masters at developing players, the one aspect that you can't

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Speaker 9: control is a willingness. I can't control your will to

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Speaker 9: want to get better. If you have that work ethic

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Speaker 9: will determination mentality. If you have all that, now it's

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Speaker 9: on me to go ahead and help that flourish.

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Speaker 7: And now I was going to say, the question becomes,

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Speaker 7: that it could go when it comes to Cooper BB.

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Speaker 2: The beauty of Cooper BB is that he's.

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Speaker 7: Proven himself a starting center, even in year one after

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Speaker 7: a transition, He's proven that he can get better and

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Speaker 7: better and he can be probably.

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Speaker 2: A pro Bowl center in this league.

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Speaker 7: But he could probably be an all pro right guard,

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Speaker 7: which would make him a definitive successor to Zach Martin.

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Speaker 7: And if that's the case, you you don't really have

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Speaker 7: to sell me on moving him the right guard.

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Speaker 2: I'm finally even.

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Speaker 7: Him at center if that's what they choose to let

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Speaker 3: I might have been in the plans from the from

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Speaker 3: the beginning though. If this Cooper Bebe is our third

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Speaker 2: And then you put him at right guard if that's

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Speaker 7: But then I look at broad coffin and I say, okay,

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Speaker 7: early day two, pick very well, minor, and then there

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Speaker 6: I don't have any doubt that they will address offensive line.

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Speaker 2: It's just that that early.

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Speaker 7: That where they address, because where they address it will

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Speaker 7: on this.

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Speaker 4: Office and how they address it when we come back.

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Speaker 3: Stephen Jones had some choice words throughout his Combine week

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Speaker 3: ever NFL combine imy are Ash Thomas Indianapolis. Uh, he's

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Speaker 3: covering the combine for us this week. Doing a great

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Speaker 3: job out there. And he I mean he was just

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Speaker 4: Actually he was working before he was on the plane.

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Speaker 3: He had an interview we'll talk about this draft, uh

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Speaker 3: He had an interview with Alfred Collins, the defensive tackle

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Speaker 2: Yeah it was.

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Speaker 6: It was a longhorn, to be fair.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So I think it's a little bias in little a

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Speaker 3: It's both bias and then a little bit of connection

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Speaker 3: were able to kind of through it, but it was people. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Tommy does know people, that is true. So one of

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Speaker 3: the big things that came out of yesterday, which of

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Speaker 2: I'll be there to morrow. Patrick, you had to do

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Speaker 2: talking cowboys in the morning, That's what okay?

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Speaker 3: So uh, anyways, exactly skipped responsibility. Combine starts for drills

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Speaker 3: on Thursday. But the entire league is out there except

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Speaker 5: Right now.

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Speaker 3: The thought process is now where this is where all

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Speaker 3: of the takeaways Patrick from Stephen Jones yesterday that kind of.

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Speaker 2: Perked the ears of Cowboys Nation. Well, let's see, should

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Speaker 2: I be selectively aggressive? And yeah, selectively? All right, let's let's.

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Speaker 4: Le's not gonna be all in this off season?

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Speaker 2: Unfortunate?

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Speaker 4: Is that going to be this freaking thing?

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Speaker 7: Based on how does the video reacted to it? So

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Speaker 7: I'll read it, go ahead, all right, So let me

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Speaker 7: this is uh Stephen Jones yesterday he was asked about

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Speaker 7: the approach this season. This offseason and he said enough, well,

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Speaker 7: we're going to look at everything we can. We're going

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Speaker 7: to be selectively aggressive. There are there are things in

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Speaker 7: they allow you to have. We'll look at that. But

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Speaker 7: we're going to improve this team. We're going to expect

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Speaker 7: to have success next year, which is this year. And

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Speaker 7: then of course, out of that Parson parceled everyone ran

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Speaker 7: with a selectively aggressive portion of it, which is unfortunately, Kyle,

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Speaker 7: that is going to be this year's all in version

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Speaker 7: of all. But you know, Stephen Jones when he talked

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Speaker 7: he also volunteered the thought process of a draft participal,

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Speaker 7: not draft, but potential trade. He was like trades. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: he brought that up unprovoked. So trade is going to

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Speaker 7: be a possibility for the Cowboys. What does that look like?

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Speaker 7: It does not look like Michael Parsons. Let me just

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Speaker 7: say that right now. What does that look like outside

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Speaker 7: of Michael Parsons?

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Mingo, you already trade?

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Speaker 4: Oh wait, yeah, we already.

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Speaker 2: Why would you bring up that?

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Speaker 7: Sorry, the fourth round pick is still trauma to be

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Speaker 7: like they did that huh, they did that.

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Speaker 2: You're not even on the draft show either, geez.

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Speaker 7: So what does that look like as far as the

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Speaker 7: potential trade getting someone in here? What assets might be

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Speaker 7: required to do that? Who are they looking at going

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Speaker 7: after an outside free agency? Will know that here. In

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Speaker 7: a couple of weeks or so, once legal tampering begins,

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Speaker 7: we'll see exactly how selectively aggressive the Cowboys are going

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Speaker 7: to be, because routinely they do not they're not players

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Speaker 7: in the first week of free agency. They try to

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Speaker 7: let those overpays pass and then get the tertiary rounds.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes they're not even acts. Yeah, we'll see if that.

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Speaker 6: If that changes, we'll seeing well about.

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Speaker 7: Dante's doing much better though they're both doing well. We'll

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Speaker 7: see if that changes. So the Cowboys are looking to

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Speaker 7: be more aggressive in free agency, be it selective or

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Speaker 7: however you want a word that they're going to talk

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Speaker 7: with Oh soo Diggi Zua his agent. That's one of

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Speaker 7: the biggest keeps. You got to figure out how to

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Speaker 7: keep Osa in the building. I don't think it's a

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Speaker 7: franchise tag situation, but I hear that transition tags not

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Speaker 7: off the table at eighteen million dollars.

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Speaker 2: We'll see, but the fact that they're it is hefty.

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Speaker 7: The fact that they're even entertaining that possibility lets me

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Speaker 7: know exactly how badly, lets me know how badly they

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Speaker 7: want to keep Agent double O nine to seven. In

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Speaker 7: the building they talked about Stephen Jones did talked about

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Speaker 7: definitely wanting to keep Jordan Lewis not breaking news. We

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Speaker 7: know that they want to keep Jordan Lewis, and they're

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Speaker 7: going to have conversations with the Marcus Lawrence's agents at

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Speaker 7: the Combine as well. So those top two defensive linemen,

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Speaker 7: as far as I'm the current roster, Cowboys are going

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Speaker 7: to start those talks. And Michael Parsons it sounds like

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Speaker 7: the Cowboys are as open to as he is to

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Speaker 7: trying to get a deal done sooner than later. Love

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Speaker 7: what Stephen Jones said about the difference between the Ceedy

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Speaker 7: Lamb negotiation, the Dak Prescott negotiation, and the Michael Parsons negotiation.

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Speaker 7: When you're negotiating with Dak Prescott, you were playing the market.

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Speaker 7: When you negotiate with Citie Lamb, you were playing the market.

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Speaker 7: You had Justin Jefferson out there. What does that look like?

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Speaker 7: When does that fall when it comes to Michael Parsons,

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Speaker 7: you you don't have that to contend with this year.

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Speaker 7: It's it's Michael Parson's world as far as that market is.

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Speaker 6: Those leaves don't need to fall.

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Speaker 2: Come on, all in leaves falling, come on, rama can

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Speaker 2: get route. So I don't know. I doubt that it

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Speaker 2: will happen before free agency is route ear Ruth, I'm like, God,

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Speaker 2: I rute, I hate you.

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Speaker 7: It's it's we would love for the Michael Parsons still

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Speaker 7: to happen before free agency so that cap money can

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Speaker 7: be freed up for spending.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what do you don't know that it's going to happen?

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Speaker 2: Yes or no? Is it going to happen Micah? Yes,

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Speaker 2: before free agency?

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Speaker 4: Before free agency?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: No no no yes, Now before training camp ask me

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Speaker 3: that before, Now ask me before training camp.

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Speaker 2: I think that's fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 14: That's right around where you would expect it both before

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Speaker 14: before training camp. I think it would be before practices

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Speaker 14: start a training camp. I mean I could see it

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Speaker 14: as I could see it as like a Trayvon thing

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Speaker 14: where like they get out to Oxnard and then they

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Speaker 14: sign it, like when they get their same kind of

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Speaker 14: thing where it was like very.

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Speaker 7: Start legal tampering. It is March tenth, then March fourteenth

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Speaker 7: is going to be sie fifteenth, fifteenth?

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Speaker 2: Will it?

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Speaker 9: Will Michael Parsons get his new contract before March fifteenth?

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Speaker 2: Yes? No? No? Yes?

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Speaker 4: What do you think?

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Speaker 2: I would like to say yes? But are you do

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Speaker 2: you know what? Okay?

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Speaker 9: Yes, They're going to be selectively be aggressive and signed

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Speaker 9: Michael Parsons before so that they know what they're dealing

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Speaker 9: with and what they can't can't go get.

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Speaker 7: I think they'll pull the other triggers that by them

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Speaker 7: time they'll pull the deck trigger restructure, they will pull

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Speaker 7: the CD trigger restructure to go ahead and get the

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Speaker 7: money on the books right then, which then allows them

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Speaker 7: the time to maybe go to O t A's early

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Speaker 7: summer negotiating this deal.

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Speaker 2: Because this be accomplished, I think they I think I

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Speaker 2: think it happened.

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Speaker 9: I don't feel great about it, but there's a number

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Speaker 9: of reasons why I believe that they It's advantageous for

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Speaker 9: the Cowboys to pull that trigger. Obviously, well not even

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Speaker 9: just the salary cap right obviously, understanding what money they're

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Speaker 9: going to have to play with going into free agency.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of big time free agents. There's a

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Speaker 2: lot of iraids for that.

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Speaker 4: Because it sets the table.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it allows you to do that.

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Speaker 4: Do I think it's going to happen?

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Speaker 9: Understood, But they also want him to be here for OTAs.

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Speaker 9: They also want him to be here for voluntary workouts,

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Speaker 9: all those.

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Speaker 2: Things you need, you want.

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Speaker 9: I don't want to say you have to, but you

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Speaker 9: would like to incentivize him to get there and put

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Speaker 9: him in a position.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, I got.

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Speaker 6: A bar real quick.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 8: Not only does it set the table, but it actually

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Speaker 8: gives you more food to invite more people. Yes, you

764
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Speaker 8: know what I'm saying. So yes, I think the quicker

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Speaker 8: you're able to get it done. Obviously you're going to

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Speaker 8: have you need folks to come in, free agents to

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Speaker 8: come in before training camp. We don't need to do

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Speaker 8: this whole rigamarole again.

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Speaker 9: Or if you have a brand new coach, you have

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Speaker 9: a the last thing you want to be dealing with

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Speaker 9: is his contract. Of the contract of the you know,

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Speaker 9: arguably the most dominant player at that position.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: The other guy is up for trades.

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Speaker 9: Right, So you started talking about why do we want

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Speaker 9: to start this offseason.

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Speaker 2: Do we want to start this off season with contract talks?

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Speaker 9: No, I don't want to start this season with contract talks.

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Speaker 9: Do I want to start this off season not knowing

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Speaker 9: how much money I have to go get be selectively aggressive?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 9: Do I want to start this off season not knowing

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Speaker 9: what our salary cap position is going to be. No,

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Speaker 9: these are all things that you can literally nix. You're

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Speaker 9: in control of your environment that you're creating for this

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Speaker 9: new coaching staff. Set them up, set this organization up

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Speaker 9: for success by knocking it out. You already said you're

788
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Speaker 9: not competing, You're not waiting on nobody. You're you are

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Speaker 9: in negotiations with that person individual. There's not waiting on

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Speaker 9: nobody else to set the market, go make it happen.

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Speaker 7: He's already told you, and he's made it public that

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Speaker 7: he is willing to take less to make sure that

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Speaker 7: this deal gets done and that there are more people

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Speaker 7: that can come to the table and eat.

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Speaker 2: So I love the way you put it.

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Speaker 7: You're competing against yourself right now, which should make for

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Speaker 7: much easier and more efficient.

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Speaker 2: It should grease the wheels, right So there's.

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Speaker 9: No reason to wait at this I guess what I'm

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Speaker 9: getting at Isak.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's no reason why you would wait.

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Speaker 9: There's no beneficial reason as to why you would wait

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Speaker 9: to get Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 6: Do we have all things to be aggressive about? Select this?

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Speaker 2: Please?

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Speaker 7: We've seen DeMarcus Lawrence Dak Prescott on multiple occasions held

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Speaker 7: DeMarcus loans and multiplications, and now CD Lamb on his

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Speaker 7: first occasion of a second contract negotiation where it was

809
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Speaker 7: always reactive, reactive, reactive, But then we saw them break

810
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Speaker 7: rank and get proactive with a guy like Trayvon Diggs.

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Speaker 7: Pull a Trayvon Diggs this time, break your usual and

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Speaker 7: make this happen fast.

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Speaker 3: Since we're setting the table and since we're since we're

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Speaker 3: serving some food for free agency, it's time to break bread.

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Speaker 2: Everybody, let's go, let's start.

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Speaker 3: Let's start breaking bread and breaking down the bread so

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Speaker 3: that way we can dish it out to Micah Parsons

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Speaker 3: and everywhere else across the board. All right, when we

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Speaker 3: come back, I want to hear about Isaiah's combine experience.

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Speaker 4: The former player in.

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Speaker 3: The room has a very interesting thought process when it

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Speaker 3: comes to the NFL combine. Plus, we've got some interesting

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Speaker 3: how about the intel after this from Isaiah's time at

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Speaker 3: Kyle Yellmans, and on this panel we have a Super

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Speaker 4: His name is I didn't want to stand back?

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Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, sorry, did neither did I? Uh?

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl Champion, Emmy Award Winner Isaiah Standback. Some would

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Speaker 3: say he's pretty intelligent when.

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Speaker 2: It comes to the game of football.

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Speaker 3: Times but you, uh, We've got something for you. When

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Speaker 3: up around.

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Speaker 2: That's a long time ago. Where are they now?

886
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 3: So two thousand and seven Isaiah's in Indianapolis.

887
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 4: He's hanging out. He's doing a bunch of things.

888
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 3: He's a lot of interviews, a lot of interviews, a

889
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 3: lot of medical checkups as well that you've talked about

890
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 3: extensively on this program before.

891
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 2: A lot of tests, a lot of tests.

892
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 3: Including one that's an IQ test. It's called the wonder Lick.

893
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 3: If you've never heard of it before. It's a test

894
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 3: that most teams. It's pretty standard across.

895
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: The base of the league.

896
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 3: It's given to these players, these draft prospects and then

897
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 3: handed out to each of the teams, and the scouts

898
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: then use it to kind of see where the general

899
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 3: cognitive ability is for these players in math, vocabulary, and

900
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 3: then reasoning. So they've got a couple different categories here.

901
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: It was used by the Navy during World War Two

902
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: to determine candidates for pilot training and navigation, and now

903
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 3: it's you used to determine who's good at football. So

904
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 3: some of the highest wonder Lake scores in NFL history,

905
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 3: how about pack Mick Mickinally it was this guy, the

906
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: pat that I'm talking about as a punter. Kevin Curtis

907
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 3: was one of the highest wide receivers he got a

908
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 3: forty eight. It's on a scale of fifty. By the way,

909
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 3: forgive me if I'm wrong. Byron Jones, did he not score?

910
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 3: Ryan Fitzpatrick quarterback was a forty eight the lead, bud,

911
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: Come on, man, varying the lead. What are you talking about?

912
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 5: Go to well to the very bottom, the very.

913
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 3: Bottom air force. That's sure average score. Oh yeah, I

914
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 3: was getting there, he said Patrick.

915
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: Uh So.

916
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 3: The lowest score was actually a former Cowboys draft pick,

917
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 3: Morris Claiborne, got a four.

918
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 4: And there's even an asterisk on there like it's it

919
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 4: could be.

920
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 2: He explained why.

921
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 3: He was later diagnosed with a learning disability, so that

922
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 3: that plays a factor into it. But there's some other

923
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: ones on there that were Darren Davis, Oscar Davenport, Frank Gore,

924
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 3: Vince Young. These are all guys that scored under a

925
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 3: six in that. So we for the first time are

926
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 3: going to divulge Isaiah Stamback wonder Licks scoring. He's never

927
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 3: heard the number, he doesn't know what it is, and

928
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: we're going to try.

929
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 4: And rank it against some of the others.

930
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 3: We're gonna see if it's above or below the average

931
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 3: Wonderlick score from some of these other individuals, both by

932
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 3: position and then by normal everyday job titles. So we've

933
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 3: got like engineer and cashier, bank teller, nurse, some of

934
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 3: these different things along the way. Beamer, Yes, sir, you

935
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 3: have the one bullet.

936
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 5: And it is a twenty three right in the middle.

937
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 4: You were wonderfully average.

938
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 5: Wow average, all right? Average for a quarterback?

939
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 4: Me okay, so bady okay.

940
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 3: So who's the average score by a quarterback is twenty six,

941
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 3: So you're three points below the average. But you played

942
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 3: a lot of wide receivers, saying, so you played wide out.

943
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 3: The average twenty for a wide out, so you're three

944
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 3: points above the average receiver.

945
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 4: How about right, let's compare you.

946
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 5: What can he do in life?

947
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 2: Life?

948
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 4: You are an electrician.

949
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 6: None wrong with that, wrong, nothing wrong with that's money

950
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 6: right there.

951
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 2: That's a solid job.

952
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 3: That's a really good a dispatcher, like a like a

953
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 3: police and EMT dispatcher.

954
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 7: And good under stress like you're just after those guys

955
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 7: on those solar panels, see that right there.

956
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, you're just a tad underqualified to be a secretary.

957
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 6: Could have been charger money.

958
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

959
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 5: The librarian was twenty seven seven.

960
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 4: Librarian they read a lot part of it.

961
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 3: It was a okay, you're also even with nurse, you

962
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 3: could probably be a nurse.

963
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: That's good.

964
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 4: Twenty three is the average score from a nurse.

965
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 3: Some of the ones that are below all the time

966
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: bank teller, cashier, firefighter, mechanist, those are all below you. Firefighters, Yeah,

967
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: above you are teacher, reporter, yeah, executive accountant, programmer. And

968
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 3: then the highest at least that's on this list is

969
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 3: like a systems analyst, and that's a thirty two. So

970
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 3: that's that's like the highest everyday person they score.

971
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: I'm glad that I'm average twenty three.

972
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 5: The source text me. He goes, he must have been cheating.

973
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:48,720
Speaker 3: He got a twenty selected average.

974
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: Bro, I don't even remember those tests.

975
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 3: You don't remember like any of your questions or anything

976
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 3: you remember like taking them.

977
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 2: I do. What was the process, Like, oh, bro, I

978
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: don't remember that specific one. I mean we did a

979
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: lot of brain analyzation. Uh.

980
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 9: They tested us on everything. It felt like you were

981
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 9: doing SAT times ten. It was just it was one

982
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 9: of those things where you were going through it. You're

983
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 9: like like for what, like why right? You know what

984
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 9: I'm saying, Like like you don't remember, which is why

985
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 9: you don't remember taking it again because I'm not a

986
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 9: test taker at that I mean, I stressed out about tests,

987
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 9: so like I even got a twenty three.

988
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that whole process was weird. I mean

989
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: you that leading up.

990
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 9: To the actual physical aspect of the combine that's at

991
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 9: the end of your week.

992
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, like everything else is really a blur. It really is.

993
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 9: Like all the test taking, it was a lot, man,

994
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 9: It's a lot of stuff that you had to do.

995
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 9: The medical for me at that point in time was

996
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 9: really where my mind and emphasis was at because I

997
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 9: couldn't do a lot of the physical stuff. I was

998
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 9: coming off of surgery that to remove screws out of

999
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 9: my foot, so by uh doctor's orders, I wasn't supposed

1000
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 9: to do any physical activity.

1001
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 2: I was literally still my foot was still swollen.

1002
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 9: So getting you know, poked and prodded on by doctors

1003
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 9: and you know, imagine being in the middle of all

1004
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 9: room at a hotel and you know, they have a

1005
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 9: table and literally all the doctors they come out. You

1006
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 9: walk out there and they announce your name and like

1007
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 9: all right, Isaiah stand bag you know, boom boom quarterback.

1008
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 9: You know, University of Washington and all right, have Adam

1009
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 9: and literally all these doctors get up from their tables

1010
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 9: and they walk out there and they all start like

1011
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 9: poking and grabbing on you and any injury that showed

1012
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 9: up on your on your list. They're literally trying to,

1013
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 9: you know, get you to show pain. Does this hurt?

1014
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 9: Does this hurt?

1015
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 2: No? Does this bother you? And I'm like, I just

1016
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 2: got out of.

1017
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 9: Surgery, bro bro it all hurts, But like you can't

1018
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 9: show that, right, So, like you're trying not to show

1019
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 9: any sign of weakness while they're analyzing you, because anything

1020
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 9: can hurt you if you WinCE, if you blink, if

1021
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 9: you like anything, right, like, they're gonna get you for it.

1022
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 9: So that portion sucked standing out there, you know, in

1023
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 9: your toonies, in front of a bunch of people with clipboards.

1024
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 9: You know, it's sitting in bleachers that doesn't not necessarily

1025
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 9: the most comfortable thing in the world, sitting in the

1026
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 9: pod little pod you know for body fat analysis, putting

1027
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 9: a little scoop of scoopa hat on. There's a lot

1028
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 9: of things like that, but a lot of the conversations

1029
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 9: that you have behind the scenes that that was the

1030
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 9: stuff that you remember, you know the jokes, and you

1031
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 9: know youre trying to make fun of the situation. It's

1032
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 9: a high stress situation that you really have no control over.

1033
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 3: If you have any friends that you still like talk

1034
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 3: to from combine times, I know what happens.

1035
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 4: It's like a it's like a weekend at camp.

1036
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 6: Right, the people you were hanging out with.

1037
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean we I mean I was in the

1038
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 9: quarterbacks room for the most part, right, So, I mean

1039
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 9: we had myself, John Beck, Troy Smith, Brady Quinn in

1040
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 9: no way wow quick.

1041
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1042
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 9: So, I mean there's a lot of conversations going on,

1043
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 9: and then you get to the physical aspect, and I

1044
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 9: couldn't do a lot of the things that I wanted

1045
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 9: to do because I was coming off with surgery. The

1046
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 9: fact that I was even invited to the combine after

1047
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 9: having played just six games of my senior series.

1048
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So.

1049
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 4: It's trying to make you feel I feel like it

1050
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 4: was twenty nine.

1051
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 2: I was frustrated because I wanted to do the forty.

1052
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 9: Like I had ran track and became the fastest quarterback

1053
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 9: in the nation, so I wanted to show that and

1054
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 9: I couldn't. Right, I would have I actually text my

1055
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 9: track coach this morning. I was like, hey, coach, with

1056
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 9: my one hundred time, you know what would I have

1057
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 9: ran in the forty?

1058
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 2: He was like, you know, mid four threes? I said,

1059
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: all right, that'd have been nice to Yeah, that had

1060
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 2: been nice to have run. But you know, I threw.

1061
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 9: I wasn't supposed to against doctor's orders because I was like,

1062
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 9: there's no way that I'm going to be on this

1063
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 9: platform and not show something.

1064
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 2: So we need to dig up some old throwing footage.

1065
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: I'm on it. Yeah that should be fun, but no

1066
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: great experience all in all. But it's fast. It's a

1067
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 2: fast week, man. It's in the meetings.

1068
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 9: I mean they try to tire you out your meetings

1069
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 9: until over, you know, past midnight.

1070
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: Depending on who you are.

1071
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 9: You have a lanyard that on the back of the

1072
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 9: lanyard that has every day and then at a certain

1073
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 9: time what you're done with all your testing for the day,

1074
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 9: after you have dinner, it's like, Okay, you got to

1075
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 9: meet with this team at this time, this team at

1076
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 9: this time.

1077
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 2: And you're literally going room to room meeting with all.

1078
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 9: These teams and coaches and front office execs, and it's stressful.

1079
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 4: Man, do you remember your bench You remember how you benched?

1080
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 9: Yes, I didn't hit it enough. I was frustrated. That

1081
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 9: was a whole situation.

1082
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 4: Would you guess over or under?

1083
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: His wonders? Oh, you know it already. What do you know?

1084
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 2: What are you over look over under?

1085
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 4: The twenty three of the Wonderlick score for his bench press.

1086
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 6: Four forty five is right there, buddy, he said he

1087
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 6: was frustrated.

1088
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, I was very frustrated. I should hit more.

1089
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: I'm still going to say over.

1090
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 3: Another quarterback beat him though it was it was under.

1091
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 3: It was twenty two give you, but it was close.

1092
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 3: It was a close one. The uh beamer, you said,

1093
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 3: another quarterback, and he's pretty mad about it.

1094
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 4: We talked about it this morning.

1095
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 5: Brady Quinn twenty four?

1096
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 4: What Brady Quinn beat you in the bench?

1097
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 9: G I Joe bro That's what I literally call him.

1098
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 9: He's a walking g I Joe figuring.

1099
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 3: No, I'm done, He's a walking He's a specimen.

1100
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 2: He's a physical specimen. For sure.

1101
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 4: He was damn for you in the end.

1102
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 7: Yes, by the way, Melvin in the chant said that

1103
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 7: you were a beast on matten and kick return.

1104
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Speaker 14: Yeah, that's there's that four to three speed.

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Speaker 4: We know and love Matt and knew, Yeah, Mad and New.

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Speaker 2: It's funny. I did.

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Speaker 5: I did do some research here. I got buried churches.

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Speaker 16: If you guys want any of the wonder lick, I

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Speaker 16: don't have his wonderleg score. I do have forty time though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what was it?

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Speaker 4: Four sixty nine?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 16: He was nineteen reps on the bench, nineteen on Bitch Baby,

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Speaker 16: thirty six vert and ten to one broad she waited

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Speaker 16: sleek two, twenty two lean.

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Speaker 9: I mean, hey, listen, anything over fifteen on bench presses.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that's legit.

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00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: That's legit.

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Speaker 4: So what Josh does on a regular basis, bro, that's legit.

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Speaker 6: I told him I was like four forty five, do

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Speaker 6: like four of them?

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Speaker 2: Four solid? After it? I like it?

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Speaker 16: All right?

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Speaker 2: We got it.

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Speaker 9: Larry Elliott I had one hundred and was it like

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Speaker 9: seventy three or someone crazy like times twelve?

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Speaker 7: Larry Allen? I mean did he hit on bench at

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Speaker 7: one point? His doing it with one hand because he

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Speaker 7: was like, what am I even here for?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 16: Actually, we talked about this with Chris Hall the other

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Speaker 16: day and he said his his combine wasn't great because

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Speaker 16: he was coming off a peck injury, I believe.

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Speaker 6: So it was that great.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 5: The Pro Bowl he like shattered it.

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Speaker 2: It was like forty three times. Yeah, insentive, stupid.

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Speaker 3: All right, that does it for us here on Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 3: Hope you had some fun. We'll be back. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: break down what happens in the drills on the combine.

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Speaker 3: Does it affect how the Cowboys are gonna draft? At

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Speaker 3: twelve and there after that? Uh Isaiah's WONDERLA scores at

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Speaker 3: twenty three is interested twenty two his forty was a

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Speaker 3: four six nine.

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Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no.

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00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 4: What is that insulting to say that?

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00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 2: It's about four to three? Guys?

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Speaker 4: What are you saying here?

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Speaker 2: Don't you put that on me? What are you saying?

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Speaker 2: Very charged? He wasn't a speed guy. He was a hitter.

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Speaker 3: Stand back for Josh Rodriguez, for Patrick Nosey Walker, Chris

1152
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 3: Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman, saying so long,

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Speaker 3: we'll see you next time.

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Speaker 4: On Talking Cowboys.

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