1 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the first football Friday of the season. God 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Zach Kershman with me Bird Gang. For the third straight season, 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: the Cardinals open on the road. There'll be in New 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: Orleans on Sunday. We give our thoughts on the matchup, 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: plus get the thoughts of Mike Triplett as we venture 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: into enemy territory. Mike covers the Saints for New Orleans 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: dot Football. 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He's it again. 17 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: Some more Hurry magic whow here's Craigcriol. 18 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: So quick question, Zach before we dive into the matchup 19 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Yes, do you own an alarm clock? A 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: physical an alarm clock, not something on your phone? 21 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: Does my Alexa count as a physical alarm clock? 22 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah, in this day and age, sure I'll count 23 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: that as opposed to the old school, little little literal. 24 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 3: Clock, and they gives you anxiety. I mean it gives 25 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: me anxiety. Took just that sound, but that's that's well. 26 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: You can always change this when we. 27 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: Put it, when we put a couch here and we 28 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 3: have a therapy session, then I can in. 29 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: The TV studio that we can roll out for if 30 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: you need to get something off your chest. 31 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 3: Well, if the if the time comes, then I will 32 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: gladly glad to share, why. 33 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: Though, Craig, Why because I need to make sure that 34 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: you are up and listening to Cardinals Early Bird as 35 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: the airs on a Cardinals radio network. Pregame coverage begins 36 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: on Sunday at what time? Five thirty am? See that's 37 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: a little. 38 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: See if I went bird watching, I don't know what 39 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: time I would have to wake up because it's still 40 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: be a little bit dark outside. True, it's still gonna 41 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 3: be a little bit. 42 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: Dark outside probably, Okay. 43 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 3: So I'm not I mean, look, I will be up 44 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 3: because I have to listen to the amazing content that 45 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: my colleagues produce here. Uh Now, when you text me 46 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 3: and you see if I'm up, I might not be 47 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: as interested in responding. But look, it's gonna be game 48 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: day on Sunday, and and I know that there's gonna 49 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 3: be one bird I'm watching that is gonna be the 50 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: Cardinals on the field at the Supernome. 51 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: Just admitute, you'll be walking into your apartment ahead of 52 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: early bird after bird watching. 53 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 3: Of course, okay, of course, all right. I was gonna say, 54 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 3: why would I where else would I I be? 55 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: But or you just st up all night long. I 56 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: don't miss. 57 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 3: Balcony, so I might just look off on the balcony 58 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: and just out into the universe. 59 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: With Paul Calvic's voice in your ear. It's the talking 60 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: about the Cardinals and Saints. See, there's like a lullaby 61 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: that puts you to sleep. Paul's voice is gonna wake 62 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: me up. But I look the pool. I haven't made 63 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: able to go on the balcony because of all the hoboobs. 64 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: The pool is quite gross. 65 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 3: And I don't typically go in the pool anyway. But 66 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 3: at least it's nice to just look at from the balcony. 67 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 3: Now though, I get to sit out there, maybe with 68 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 3: a Duncan iced coffee, because I love me some ice 69 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: coffee and some Paul Calvic gat me ready for the 70 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 3: Cardinals versus Saints Week one, Craig, we're back. 71 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: It is an early starts on Sunday, five thirty am. 72 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: Ten am is when the Cardinals and Saints. We'll kick 73 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: it off. We'll dive more into the matchup here in 74 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: a moment with Mike. But first things first, on the 75 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: injury reports. This is kind of your thing, your baby, 76 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: something that you deal with every single day during the 77 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: regular season. And there was an interesting name that popped 78 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: up on Thursday's injury report, and that would be defensive 79 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: lineman Dante Steeles, who is dealing with a heel issue. 80 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: The good news is, according to head coach Jonathan, Dante 81 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: will be on the practice field Friday, so we will 82 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: see where he is on Sunday. 83 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: Full transparency, Craig and I were recording our interview with 84 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: Mike during that practice, so we were not out there 85 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: to not see Dante stills out there on Thursday. However, Friday, 86 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 3: when when asked to Jonathan again and he said that 87 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 3: he's all good, he'll be out there on the practice field. Now, 88 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 3: does that mean that he's going to be out on 89 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: the practice field ramping up to potentially play or is 90 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 3: he gonna fully be one hundred percent there. I'm expecting, 91 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 3: and we're recording this before Friday's practice, after Jonathan Gannon's 92 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 3: press conference. I'm expecting Dante Stills to land on the 93 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: injury report as limited and to be listed as questionable 94 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: going into Sunday's game. But the way that the head 95 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: coach spoke about it, there's a chance and it looks 96 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: like Dante would likely be playing. 97 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: Question now becomes on Saturday. What roster moves are made, 98 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: I e. Elevations to the practice from the practice squad. 99 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: That and all of a sudden, if you're concerned about 100 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: Dante's health, you're gonna address at least I would believe 101 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: you address and have six active defensive linemen. If there's 102 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: some uncertainty with Dante, do you have a seventh come 103 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: off the practice squad In the event that, for whatever reason, 104 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: Dante couldn't finish the game or that heel issue flares 105 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: up again, you got Elijah Simmons and Anthony Goodlow on 106 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: the practice squad. I could see one, not both, but 107 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: one being elevated on Saturday and then kind of see 108 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: how the weekend goes before kickoff. 109 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,679 Speaker 3: I'm curious to know who you would think the second 110 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 3: elevation might be now we're just now, might not be one. 111 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: You might not, you might not, And that's because of 112 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: how solid this team and the way that they've been 113 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: able to configure this this fifty three man roster. Just 114 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: how solid this team is right now. The fact that 115 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 3: you had to make a handful of really tough cuts 116 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: is something that it's a testament to the roster building 117 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 3: that this team has had. It wouldn't surprise me if 118 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 3: either Elijah Simmons or Anthony Goodlow, the two defensive linement 119 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: that you have on your that you have in your 120 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 3: practice squad, it wouldn't surprise me if either of them 121 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 3: get elevated and they joined the team for Sunday's game. 122 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: Then again, though it depends on Dante Still's health, I 123 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised more if Anthony Goodlow got the elevation 124 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: because his body type is a little bit more similar 125 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: to Dante Stills and Elijah Simmons. Is that nose tackles 126 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: spot that's listed right behind Dalvin Tomlinson and PJ. Mustafer. 127 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: So either or though could with the way that the 128 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals utilize their defensive tackles and the way that 129 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: they're able to play everything from a zero tech all 130 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: the way out to a five tax of seven tech. 131 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 3: It's something that I think will allow this team to 132 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 3: be flexible with their roster building. 133 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: Comes Sunday, teams don't have to elevate anyone from the 134 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: practice squad. There are times last year when the Cardinals 135 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: didn't and it's because they're healthy. And the only reason 136 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: we bring it up this week is because of what 137 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: happened on Thursday and Dante Stills's name showing up on 138 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: that injury report. So just something pay attention to. If 139 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: there is an announcement, then yeah, someone gets elevated. And 140 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: sometimes we don't get that email, and of course you're 141 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: just waiting. It's like, okay, well by the late afternoon, 142 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: didn't get the email. No roster move. 143 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: Potentially, there's a chance that you're not You might not 144 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 3: be fully sure what you get out of BAM Night. 145 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 3: So maybe you bring in Michael Carter from the practice squad, 146 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: Maybe you elevate him. Maybe you want to add that 147 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 3: that big body receiver that could play special teams, so 148 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: you bring up Simmy Feijoko. There's a lot of different 149 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: options that the Cardinals. 150 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: Will have again, you can elevate and again a yeah, 151 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: you can elevate a player three times. If you want 152 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: them a fourth, then that you'd have to sign them 153 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: to the active roster. And that's where you get into 154 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: that roster gymnastics as far as okay, do you quote 155 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: unquote burn a roster elevation? And we know that you 156 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: have a set role on game day. If you're active, 157 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: you're going to play, whether that is offense, defense, or 158 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: special teams. So again we'll pay attention to that. On SAT. 159 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: Sunday is the game Cardinals at the Saints, and as 160 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: we mentioned off the top, this week, Zach and I 161 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: had the chance to speak with Mike Triplett. He covers 162 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: the Saints for New Orleans Dot Football. Let's get his 163 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: thoughts on Sunday's matchup. So it is always easy to 164 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: start these conversations talking about the quarterback. This week is 165 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: no exception, especially given the local connection with both Spencer 166 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: Ratler and Tyler Schuck. So, Mike, what made Spencer the 167 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: right choice? 168 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 4: Well, look, I mean it was twofold. I think he 169 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 4: won the battle either way. If it was just a 170 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 4: straight who looked better this summer, I think Rattler had 171 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 4: the edge. He looked like the guy who had a 172 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 4: year of experience under his belt. He started a little faster, 173 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 4: started a little more poised, comfortable, confident, all that kind 174 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 4: of stuff, you know, with six starts and seven games 175 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 4: played last year. And then the other thing is just 176 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 4: you know, they drafted Tyler Shuck in the second round 177 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 4: with the fortieth pick, and if this was one of 178 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 4: those circumstances where they had a veteran quarterback, where they 179 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 4: had their version of Jacobe Brissette or Brian Hoyer or 180 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 4: Andy Dalton, you know, or Russell Wilson or Kirk Cousins. 181 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 4: You know, a lot of times rookies, you you very 182 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 4: shrewdly want to give them time to get adjusted to 183 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 4: the league and not throw them right into the fire. 184 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 4: It actually rarely happens with second round picks. So so 185 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 4: I think Shuck would have had to look shockingly ready. 186 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 4: And you know, Shuck showed him outside, but he looked 187 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 4: like a guy who was in his first NFL training camp. 188 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 4: And and it's probably better to wait and let the 189 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 4: experienced guy go. The experienced guy in this case being 190 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 4: only slightly more experienced. 191 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 3: We've seen dating back to high school even throughout, you know, 192 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: college with that Spencer ratt Or his personality and the 193 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: confidence that you kind of discussed there has influenced his 194 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: game in the way that he takes command of a huddle. 195 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 3: And I feel like when you go owen six as 196 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: a starter, that that can either destroy your confidence going 197 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: through the offseason or motivate you in what ways. Have 198 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 3: you seen Rattler's approach change now going into his second season. 199 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 4: No, yeah, you're right. He's always been a very confident guy. 200 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 4: I think that helped him as a rookie. But you know, 201 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 4: I think I think there's confidence based in just attitude 202 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 4: and life experience. And obviously, you know, none of this 203 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 4: stuff is too big for him after all the attention 204 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 4: he got and playing at Oklahoma and and you know, 205 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 4: coming back the way he did a South Carolina. But 206 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 4: then there's the confidence that just comes with experience. I mean, 207 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 4: he was a two point conversion away from from beating 208 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 4: the Washington Commanders when they were the hottest team in 209 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 4: the league at a big halftime lead at Tampa Bay 210 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 4: in Week eighteen last year. I mean, he's he's played 211 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 4: in games against playoff winning teams and competed with them, 212 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 4: even when this Saints team was you know, he didn't 213 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 4: have any of his receivers and didn't have half his 214 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 4: offensive line last year. So him being out there with 215 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 4: the full starting eleven everyone healthy this year, I think 216 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 4: there's his natural confidence, but there's also the confidence that 217 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 4: you know, he can build off some of the promising 218 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 4: things he showed last year. 219 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of seeing it all, how about winning it all? 220 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: Because Kellen Moore did exactly that when he was the 221 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 3: offensive coordinator at the Philadelphia Eagles. But as much as 222 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 3: I think people can know about what Kellen Moore brings 223 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 3: to the table, it's very different once you put on 224 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 3: the headset as the head coach. I'm not sure about. 225 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: I know in training camp and preseason, teams don't show 226 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 3: terribly too much. How much of an unknown is there 227 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 3: still with Kellen Moore and his offense. 228 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm really looking forward to finding that out along 229 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 4: with y'all. Yeah, on Sunday, and I think that's going 230 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 4: to be his strength. I mean, Kellen Moore's obviously the 231 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 4: youngest head coach in the league right now. When he 232 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 4: speaks in press conferences, you know, he doesn't seem like 233 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 4: the next coming of Bill Parcells. But what he is 234 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 4: is a guy who loves the nose of this sport. 235 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 4: And there's a reason why he's, you know, been interviewing 236 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 4: for head coaching jobs the last three four years in 237 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 4: a row. And we could tell, we could tell when 238 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 4: we first saw him running ota run a training cam practice, 239 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 4: that that's his comfort zone. And I think game planning 240 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 4: for a specific opponent, and certainly one that he's had 241 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 4: months to think about his first NFL game plan as 242 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 4: a head coach, I'm really curious to see how inventive 243 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 4: it is. 244 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: Both Jonathan Gannon and Nick Ralis this week, Mike have 245 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: been very complimentary of Kellen Moore and their dealings their 246 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: past games against him as a play caller. I want 247 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: to go back to something you had said when we 248 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: were talking about Spencer Ratler and the health and a 249 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: full eleven healthy body, specifically with Chris Olave. I was 250 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: reading this week that he was only on the field 251 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: for two of Ratler's six starts last season. How much 252 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: of a difference do you think that will make here 253 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: this season? 254 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, one of them, I think he left in the 255 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 4: in the opening series, if I remember right. A huge difference. 256 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 4: I mean look, the Saints team deserves its current reputation, 257 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 4: everybody picking him to finish last in the league to 258 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 4: have the first pick in next year's draft. But they 259 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 4: are I think better than most teams in this situation 260 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 4: when when they've got all their starters on the field. 261 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 4: Last year, I mean, if you remember they were, they 262 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 4: were two and oh, scoring forty points a game. Uh, 263 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 4: and and really probably the most injuries I've ever seen. 264 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 4: I mean, they're they're Pro Bowl center Eric McCoy might 265 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 4: be their team MVP, Chris Olave and Rashid Shaheed. Uh, 266 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 4: you know they're corners, other offensive linemen Taysom Hill, like, 267 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 4: I mean, the team just uh, all the important players 268 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 4: seem to get hurt last year. But now they've got, 269 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 4: you know, for their projected starting offensive lineman, including McCoy 270 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 4: and their two first round picks that tackle, they've got 271 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 4: a lot of it. They've got Shaheed, They've added Brandon 272 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 4: Cooks into von Vley, so uh, you know he's going 273 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 4: to have as much you know, it's gonna be a 274 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 4: much different offense than what he led last year. Still 275 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 4: not a world beating offense, but one that can be 276 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 4: a lot more competitive than I think people will probably 277 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 4: immediately think of the Saints, and. 278 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 3: I know that they have a pretty solid running back 279 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 3: in Alvin Kamara. He was fifty yards shy of his 280 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: first one thousand yard season. I know that the injury 281 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: probably you never want an injury to happen. You never 282 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 3: want it to happen when you're so close to achieving 283 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: such a milestone like that one for him, just does 284 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 3: that add a? Does that put a chip on his 285 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 3: shoulder going into this upcoming season? And is there maybe 286 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 3: a concern of rust even considering though limited time in 287 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:39,479 Speaker 3: the preseason. 288 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I wouldn't worry about that with him. You know, 289 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 4: he's had a lot of limited preseasons. You know, his 290 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 4: September numbers have been phenomenal throughout his career, and you know, 291 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 4: I think he kind of wanted a thousand yard rushing 292 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 4: season last year, but that is obviously not a number 293 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 4: that defines Sam is six fifteen hundred yards from s 294 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 4: grimmage season. He's got you know, eighty catch seasons pretty routinely, 295 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 4: so he's you know, he's that type of back that 296 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 4: that a thousand yards rushing is just a little portion 297 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 4: of what he does. But yeah, look, I mean anything's 298 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 4: going to motivate him. It's it's he's a running back 299 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 4: and he turns thirty next year, and father time is 300 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 4: so cool to running backs. I think, I think, you know, 301 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 4: every year is precious for. 302 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: Him because Alvin is so dynamic, not only running but catching. 303 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: How much do you think at least for this first game, amye, 304 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: even the first month that offensively, the Saints rely on him. 305 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 4: Like the most, the maximum, as much as you can 306 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 4: any player, because yeah, look they want the best thing 307 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 4: this team can do is establish the run. Put Spencer 308 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 4: Rattler in second and four and second and five and 309 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 4: third and one and and eat some clock and keep 310 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 4: the other teams off the field. So that's all true. 311 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 4: They are going to want him as a runner to 312 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 4: be a huge part of this offense. But then obviously 313 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 4: if things are not going well and they're coming from 314 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 4: behind and they have to throw the ball. He's one 315 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 4: of the best past catching backs we've ever seen in 316 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 4: this league, and he'll be a huge part of that too. 317 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 4: So I expect him to be a huge, huge part 318 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 4: of this offense as he always been as much as ever. 319 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: Though, let's switch it over to the defense. There's another 320 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: local connection, Cameron Jordan, you're fifteen for him. Has he 321 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: shown any signs of slowing down? 322 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 4: He has. I mean, look, I mean reality has hit 323 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 4: him like it does for a lot of other guys. 324 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 4: He's because, you know, he used to be a one 325 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 4: of the great iron men in the league who never 326 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 4: took a snap off, and now he's become more of 327 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 4: a rotational backup. But obviously he's still got that special 328 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 4: talent for a rotational backup, and if Chase Young is 329 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 4: outer limited this week, he's going to need to be 330 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 4: more than that. So I imagine, Yeah, he is a guy. 331 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 4: Part of his motivation is so many cementing a trip 332 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 4: to the Hall of Fame possibly, you know, and he's 333 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 4: a guy who's gonna want to make the most of 334 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 4: every opportunity he gets this season, especially back in his 335 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 4: against his home state teams. 336 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 3: We know that Cardinals now second year defensive lineman Darius 337 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: Robinson has admired him from Afar and actually up close 338 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 3: during their time at the Sack Summit as well, So 339 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 3: he has the respect of many of those in the league. 340 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 3: That is, Cam Jordan. I want to ask about Brandon 341 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 3: Stalely though, it's not often until this year really feels 342 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 3: like where it seems like most defensive coordinators around the 343 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: league are former head coaches. How much of this has 344 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 3: been Brandon Staley saying, Kellen, you take over the offense. 345 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 3: I'll be the head coach of the defense. And in 346 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: what ways have you been able to see that defensive 347 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: style from his time in Los Angeles start to translate 348 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 3: over to New Orleans. 349 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 4: No, it's the exact same answer with him that I 350 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 4: gave you on Kellen Moore a few minutes ago. I mean, 351 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 4: obviously they do keep things pretty vanilla in the preseason, 352 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 4: but I think it's very apparent that brands Day is 353 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 4: one of these this this current generation, this younger generation 354 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 4: of really sophisticated game planning coaches. Him and Jonathan Gannon 355 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 4: are really close, and they, you know, around the same age, 356 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 4: have grown up and risen in this league together. Uh. 357 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 4: And I think he is going to be a guy 358 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 4: who loves the chess portion of this game. And I 359 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 4: am really excited to see what he shows us now 360 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 4: that it's not going to be vanilla. 361 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 3: And he's got a guy who likes chess. And Justin 362 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 3: Reid on that defense as well, so this so funny, 363 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 3: funny play on words there. I want to ask about 364 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 3: Alante Taylor also with Brandon Staley's scheme, and I know 365 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 3: as of this recording right now, he's still coming back 366 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 3: from the injury. Was limited during practice as of Wednesday. Uh, 367 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 3: Brandon Staley refers to his usage as the star position. 368 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 3: Is that mostly just a nickel cornerback spot. 369 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 4: Well, I mean primarily, I guess you could say, but 370 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 4: but I mean he is, He's going to be a 371 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 4: star in the sense of, you know, doing it all. 372 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 4: I mean, he will be an outside cornerback. In bas 373 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 4: downs when they only have two corners on the field, 374 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 4: there'll be a nickel when they moved to nickel and dive. 375 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 4: He will blitz a lot. It's funny. There was a 376 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 4: there was a tweet when Micah Parsons chose number one 377 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 4: that Alante Taylor actually has the most sacks in NFL 378 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 4: history by anyone wearing the number one. So you know, 379 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 4: maybe he can hang out of that lead at least 380 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 4: halfway through the season before Micah passes him up. But no, 381 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 4: he's gonna be one of those guys in look. He 382 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 4: you know, he's excited that that Brandon Staley has used 383 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 4: DB's like Jalen Ramsey and Derwin James in that type 384 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,239 Speaker 4: of role in the past. Is going to be really 385 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 4: important to what this defense does, and I'm curious how 386 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 4: much of that will be. He has to cover tight 387 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 4: ends like Trey McBride and George Kittle, who they have 388 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 4: on the schedule in weeks one and two, probably the 389 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 4: two toughest tight end matchups still have all season. 390 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: Another concern the Saints might have, at least particular this 391 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: week is the Cardinals run game. Numbers wise, the same 392 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: weren't great against the run. I know sometimes looking at 393 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: numbers from previous seasons when you have a coaching change 394 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: and a staff change, But what is the concern or 395 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: the heightened awareness of James Connor and Trey Benson and 396 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: that Cardinals rushing. 397 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 4: Attack well and Kyler Murray. I mean, I would say 398 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 4: I'd say that's been a downfall for the Saints. Even 399 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 4: in Dennis Allen's best years as their defensive coordinator and 400 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 4: head coach, they were struggling against some of the more 401 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 4: mobile quarterbacks in the league. And yeah, it's going to 402 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 4: be completely different now. I've said a number of times 403 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of areas where you can 404 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 4: knock the Saints and be concerned about the Saints. But 405 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 4: I think one area where they're actually going to be 406 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 4: vastly improved this year is their run defense. With Day 407 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 4: switching to a three four scheme, and then the first 408 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 4: move they made in March was to trade for Devon Gotschall, 409 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 4: one of the best nose tackles in the league, to 410 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 4: be kind of the centerpiece, the run stuffer of that 411 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 4: three to four scheme. The second move they made was 412 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 4: to go sign Justin Reid at safety of run stopping. 413 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 4: I think there is a huge emphasis on this team 414 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 4: being good at stopping the run after that has really 415 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 4: become one of the big downfalls of this team in 416 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 4: recent years. 417 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: Another area, and this is my last question for you here, Mike, 418 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: another area which the Saints have been very good at 419 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: Week one. I saw it in the game notes opening paragraph. 420 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: Saints have won six straight season opening games, longest active 421 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: streak in the NFL. How much is that just an 422 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: anomaly or should we read into anything in that? 423 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 4: Well, I mean that's yeah, tough to say. Obviously, with 424 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 4: a new quarterback and a new coach. How much carryover 425 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 4: you can get in that department. But I do think 426 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 4: for a team that's a six and a half point 427 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 4: underdog or a five and a half point underdog or 428 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 4: whatever it is currently at home, you know there's always 429 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 4: a great equalizer when when underdog's hit and weird things happened, 430 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 4: and you have a new head coach and a new 431 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 4: offensive play caller and a new defensive play caller that 432 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 4: people don't have a book on yet, you know, week 433 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 4: one maybe can be your equalizer. Yeah. 434 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: Week ones are always interesting, not only this season but 435 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 1: throughout the NFL. Mike great information. Looking forward to finally 436 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: having games that counts starting on Sunday when the Cardinals 437 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: visit the Saints. 438 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 4: No, I'm looking forward to it as well. 439 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: Good stuff for Mike there. Enjoyed our conversation. If you 440 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: want to follow Mike, especially this weekend and even on 441 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: game day, it's at Mike Triplett does a phenomenal job 442 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: covering the Saints. It was his Twitter page in which 443 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: I first noticed that Hey, Chase Young is not practicing 444 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: or showed up with a calf injury during Wednesday's practice, 445 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: did not practice on Thursday. Again, We'll see his status 446 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: as well as the status cornerback Alonte Taylor, who's still 447 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: coming back from m groin issue. And if they do 448 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: not have Alante Taylor, that's a big loss in that 449 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: Saint secondary because we did hear from Mike about not 450 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: just Marvin Harrison Junior, but the matchups that Taylor could 451 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: be on Trey mcbritt. He's that big body corner that 452 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: can really move around and cover multiple skilled players. 453 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 3: And as I asked as I asked Mike during the 454 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 3: call we had with him, it's that star position that 455 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 3: Brandon Staley utilizes and it's not really that nickel because 456 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 3: he has them following everybody out there. So it's going 457 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 3: to be something very interesting to keep an eye on 458 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 3: when the injury report comes out on Friday, and then 459 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 3: ultimately once the inactives come out. I'm pretty sure it's 460 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 3: ninety minutes before the game, so that's going to be 461 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 3: something that is going to be worth noting. But yes, 462 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 3: Mike Tripplett very solid, Nick Underhill as well. In New 463 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: Orleans off football, those two have been crushing it from 464 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 3: the content game. From an injury report perspective, we're always 465 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 3: trying to watch what the other local beat reporters who 466 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 3: have their finger on the pulse out there, what they're 467 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 3: putting out, and those two have been very on top 468 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 3: of it. So lucky to hear from those two guys. 469 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: Interesting nugget from Mike when we asked him about the 470 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: run game, because statistically, you look at this Saints defense 471 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: from a year ago and not good thirty first in 472 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: rushing yards per game, rushing yards per play. But Mike 473 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: pointed out, it's not so much the running backs but 474 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: the mobile quarterbacks that have given the Saints a lot 475 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: of trouble. But Brandon Staley runs a much different defense 476 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: and they've added pieces to that defense in which they 477 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: believe they are better capable of handling not only the 478 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: mobile quarterbacks, but running backs as well. But I do 479 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: think you're going to see a heavy dose of James 480 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: Connor Trey Benson. How do you balance those snaps those reps. 481 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: Is it really one A one B. Is it really 482 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: two RB ones or is that something we kind of 483 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: see over the course of several games several months this season. 484 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,959 Speaker 3: But I do think with the focus that is going 485 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 3: to be on James Connor and or Trey Benton, that 486 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 3: that does provide a great opportunity for Kyler Murray to 487 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,239 Speaker 3: utilize his legs, and it's something he has brought up 488 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 3: himself throughout the offseason about how he wants to be 489 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 3: more elusive, how he wants to showcase and utilize that 490 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 3: part of his game that he hasn't really shown in 491 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 3: the past handful of years, especially since his ACL injury. 492 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 3: With that being said, it would not surprise me to 493 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 3: see Kyler Murray having a big day on the ground 494 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 3: because as much as you could bring in the pieces 495 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 3: to have a four to five defensive line, when it 496 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 3: comes to a incredibly mobile quarterback that dual threat ability 497 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 3: like Kyler Murray possesses. We saw with the Los Angeles Rams. 498 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 3: They had the rookie of the year in Jared Vers 499 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 3: and they had the second runner up in Brady Fisk 500 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 3: out there on the defensive line, and they both struggled 501 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 3: to bring not Jalen Hurts. They just had him on 502 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 3: the screen. They both strug They did struggle to bring 503 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts down, but that was later on in the year. 504 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 3: They struggled to bring down Kyler Murray in the second 505 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 3: week of the season last year, and even when they 506 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 3: went there for Saturday Night Football. So definitely is going 507 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 3: to be something that I wouldn't surprise. I wouldn't be 508 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: surprised to see Kyler Murray. Can something happen? 509 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: You bring up Jalen Hurts and it's a great example 510 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 1: because it's not intentional. Not intentional. But follow me here, 511 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: because based off what we saw on Thursday Night Football, 512 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: for me, it's not so much the designed runs for Kyler, 513 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: the called runs, but okay, you're back to pass, you're 514 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: scanning the field, no one is open, and then you 515 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 1: decide to run. We saw that with Jalen last night 516 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: in the red zone, no one open and he runs 517 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: for a touchdown. That I think is where when we 518 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: talk about Kyler using his legs, maybe using more in 519 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: the red zone, because now, all of a sudden, you've 520 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: got a count for another weapon and another option inside 521 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: the twenty, and that becomes to your advantage and a 522 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: disadvantage for defenses. 523 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 3: You don't you like to see Kyler Murray rip it 524 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 3: and run when he has the fifty yard touchdown run 525 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 3: against the San Francisco forty nine ers and he puts 526 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 3: his finger up into the air at the with forty 527 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 3: five yards away from pay dirt and he throws his 528 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 3: arm up in the air. You like seeing them those 529 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,479 Speaker 3: kinds of plays, but it's as you said, there's no 530 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: more defeating feeling for a defensive back than when you're 531 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 3: locking up your wide receiver and you're keeping the quarterback. 532 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 3: He's still upright, but you know you're locking down his 533 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 3: options and then he breaks free for a first down 534 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 3: or it breaks free for a touchdown. There's no more 535 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 3: defeating feeling than that. And that's a skill set that 536 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts and maybe one or 537 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 3: two other quarterbacks in the league that you could rely 538 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 3: on being able to do that or that you have 539 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 3: to be mindful of that as you're going into your 540 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 3: game plan. If you do not have a spy on 541 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 3: a guy like Kyler Murray, that is going to cause 542 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 3: a lot of problems. I wouldn't be surprised to see 543 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 3: if the Mario Davis or somebody one of their middle 544 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 3: inside linebackers comes out and is a spy on Kyler 545 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 3: Murray throughout the game, because he does have that skill set. 546 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 3: And look, the coaches, the players, they all hear the 547 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 3: noise too, and there's been a lot of noise arounding 548 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray and his ability to run and why he 549 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 3: has done it, why he hasn't done it, when he has, 550 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 3: when he hasn't. I think this is something that the 551 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 3: Saints team is going to be very mindful of. 552 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: On the other side, when you talk about quarterbacks, Spencer Ratler, 553 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: what does he look like? Not only in year two, 554 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: got his feet wet last season. It wasn't a good 555 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: look as far as the numbers are concerned. As we 556 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: discussed with Mike six starts, six losses and now all 557 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: of a sudden, okay, year two, more comfortable, new play caller, 558 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, what does that look like? 559 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: And I thought it was a quick, great question by 560 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: you because you've noticed going all the way back when 561 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: Spencer was at Pinnacle High School, he got more comfortable 562 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: as he stayed within the same system. Now again, it's 563 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit of a tweak with Kellen 564 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: Moore coming in, but Saints unknown as far as what 565 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: it's going to look like. But the know now as 566 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: a second year quarterback, okay, I know what to expect. 567 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: Made a lot of mistakes. Can I correct those and 568 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: have things look a little bit better for us this 569 00:28:58,960 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: season talking about normal. 570 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, with Spencer Ratler too, even dating back to high school, 571 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 3: when he was on that quarterback Netflix series, you were 572 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 3: able to see his personality at the forefront and it 573 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 3: was a little bit polarizing. He had its moments. And 574 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 3: when he went to Oklahoma you saw that as well, 575 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 3: that he had his moments and then they had all 576 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 3: the quarterback situation with kil Williams and everything like that. 577 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 3: Then he goes on to South Carolina and you start 578 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 3: to see that fire come back to Spencer rat Where 579 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 3: he didn't see it nearly as much at Oklahoma, you 580 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 3: saw it a little bit more at South Carolina. Then 581 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 3: he goes gets drafted in either the fourth or fifth round, 582 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 3: and he was asked on a New Orleans Saints podcast 583 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 3: earlier this week he still feels like he was drafted 584 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 3: too weight, and he said, yeah, I feel like I 585 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 3: should have been drafted earlier on not that. I want 586 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 3: Spencer Rawerd to get his confidence in his swagger right 587 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 3: before he gets set to play the Arizon. It could 588 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 3: begin week two, but it could build right It could 589 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 3: build right now and then whatever happens afterwards. You know, 590 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 3: we wish the local kid the best. However, when a 591 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 3: quarterback gets their swagger back, it's something that ultimately does 592 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 3: propel them in the huddle. When they're in the huddle 593 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 3: and they're trying to take command of a team, you 594 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 3: want your ten other guys around you to have full confidence, 595 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 3: full buy in, and in the way that you speak 596 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 3: as a quarterback. That does make a difference. Kyler Murray 597 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 3: even talked about that a little bit when he was 598 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 3: growing up in the league, about how it was so 599 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 3: much tougher as a younger guy, when you were this 600 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 3: rookie in the league, the second year player in the league, 601 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 3: and you look at it, you see Larry Fitzgerald in 602 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 3: the huddle, and you see a lot of these other players, 603 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 3: it's tough to feel like you have full command of 604 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 3: the huddle. But based off of what Mike said, it 605 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 3: seems like he's starting to get that confidence. Kellen Moore 606 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 3: described him as calm smooth and calm, smooth and cool. 607 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 3: So hopefully that is on display come week two, not 608 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 3: week one. 609 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: That's what we describe you. 610 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 3: As, calm, smooth and cool. 611 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: That's what it says on your resume. 612 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 3: I did put that for myself. 613 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: As we completely get off scripts here on Cardinals Cover 614 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: two up. 615 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 3: We're just birdwatching this. 616 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: Play defensive coordinator for me, you're Nick Rowllis, what do 617 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: you do that first series? Do you give Spencer something 618 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: completely different? Or is it just straight up we're gonna 619 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: rush for and then if we have to, okay, we 620 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: can be exotic and do different things. I don't believe 621 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: in all right, we're not gonna show this because we're 622 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: waiting for Week three when we play our first division opponent. No, 623 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: you do whatever you're is needed to win that particular 624 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: week's game. But how do you how do you what 625 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: do you initially show Spencer Ratler? 626 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 3: Nick Rollis is a lot more methodical than I am. 627 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 3: I'm saying Cover zero all out blitz. I think you 628 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 3: bring it to the quarterback. You that offensive line right now, 629 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 3: while it is one of their strengths that Mike was 630 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 3: discussing a little bit there, Trevor Penning as of Thursday, 631 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 3: has been a DNP the last two practices. He's one 632 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 3: of your starting offensive linemen. That is big, especially with 633 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 3: this four to five defensive line that the Cardinals heavily 634 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 3: invents throughout the offseason. And then your edge rushers with 635 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 3: Josh Sweat and with Baron Browning and Zavin Collins, and 636 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 3: I'll have a story on Easycardinals dot com about the 637 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 3: pass rushers that you could check out on Saturday heading 638 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 3: into the game. Hopefully we will hear from Josh Sweat. 639 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 3: Haven't gone into the locker room yet to have the 640 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 3: chance to speak with him, but I did speak with 641 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 3: Baron Browning about it, and just the spotlight that's on 642 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 3: this group, I would not be surprised to see Nick 643 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 3: Rowlis throw the kitchen sink at Spencer Ratwerd try to 644 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 3: throw them off. You want to utilize your legs, do it, 645 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 3: but we're gonna make you have to utilize your life 646 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 3: because we're gonna bring the pressure. Is it gonna be 647 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 3: great if they could just send four and that's it, Sure, 648 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 3: But you want to have that happen later on in 649 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 3: the game when your edge rushers need a little bit 650 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 3: of a breather that they don't need to or you 651 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 3: don't need to have it all out blitzer Buddha coming 652 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,719 Speaker 3: from the top all the way down. But I do 653 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 3: think that first place should be an all out blitz 654 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 3: MANI assin Ford heavily invested in this group, let's show. 655 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 3: Let's show where the money went. 656 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: Now, if you're the Saints and you want to beat 657 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: a blitz is you run right at it. And if 658 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: the Saints can do a good job in pass protection 659 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: and run blocking, you've got someone and Alvin Kamara who 660 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: can maybe get twenty five to thirty touches and kind 661 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: of neutralize slow down that Cardinals defense. Obviously, if you 662 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: get off to a good start to score lead, if 663 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: you're the Cardinals and all of a sudden, you're forcing 664 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: the Saints into more pass plays than run plays. But 665 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: that's one way in which Okay, we're going to establish 666 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: the run game, and that's why you hear and you 667 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: hit it every week. But stop the run, well, that 668 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: might be more true this week than any other week. 669 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And the other thing I'll say too, 670 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 3: when when you ask if I put on my defensive 671 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 3: coordinator cap. You also can't be too overzalous when it 672 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 3: comes to the new pieces that you have. There's even 673 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 3: with the pieces that you had in the previous two years, 674 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 3: where on paper, the talent, the talent level is far 675 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 3: above and beyond this year's roster compared to the previous 676 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 3: two years since Jonathan Gannon came to town, don't there 677 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 3: was something that still was able to work for you 678 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 3: when you were Nick Rollis and you had the pieces 679 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 3: and the way that you were able to utilize your 680 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 3: disguises and your schemes and the way you're able to 681 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 3: deploy certain players. You don't want to get too cute. 682 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 3: That's always something that hurts a lot of new staffs 683 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 3: is when they're trying to figure out like what they 684 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 3: actually have out there. It's different when you're figuring out 685 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 3: year one versus year three. If Kellen Moore tries to 686 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 3: get a little bit too cute, that he has a 687 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 3: little bit more leeway, a little bit more grace period 688 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 3: because he's still trying to figure out the pieces that 689 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 3: he has here. Nick Rollis has a standard and a 690 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 3: scheme that has been very well regarded throughout the league 691 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 3: and has gotten a lot of praise. And Kellen Moore 692 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 3: talked about how it's a scheme that is is within 693 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 3: the rules, but it feels like it breaks rules still 694 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 3: and there's a lot of gray that's in between. Is 695 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 3: what Kellen Moore described. Nick Rollis a scheme as you 696 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 3: just don't want to get too cute and a little 697 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 3: bit too over zealous with your pieces. 698 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: Cardinals and Saints ten am on Sunday five thirty. Pre 699 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: game coverage begins. Anything else, Zach, as far as this 700 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: matchup that you want to touch on, discuss, or think 701 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: is important, As far as right Cardinals do this, they 702 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: get the w. 703 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 3: I think it. I asked Johnathan Gannon about earlier in 704 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 3: the season or earlier in the week, rather about starting 705 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 3: the season on the road every year since he's been 706 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 3: here and what he has learned so far, a guy 707 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 3: who spends a lot of time in the offseason evaluating 708 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 3: his process, and he said that, yes, there's not really 709 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 3: much to it. It's a road game. However, it comes 710 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 3: down when you're on the road, it comes down to 711 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 3: the team that makes the least amount of mistakes, and 712 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 3: that mostly stems from pre snap penalties, selfish penalties, things 713 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 3: of that nature. And I was talking with center Yel 714 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,240 Speaker 3: Defrohold about it and about how to use a silent 715 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 3: count and the cadence that this Cardinals team has to 716 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 3: prepare themselves for. And something that Yeld said that actually 717 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 3: surprised me was that some guys on the offensive line 718 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 3: actually prefer the silent count because it lets them have 719 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,720 Speaker 3: a better beat off the football because it's going based 720 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 3: off of him and they're all kind of one in 721 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 3: sync together. But he was saying, look, it's going to 722 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 3: be a loud environment. It's something that we've been preparing for. 723 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 3: They practice the silent count daily here at Cardinals headquarters. 724 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 3: I'm going to be very interested to see when it 725 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 3: comes to those pre snap penalties how the Cardinals are 726 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 3: able to limit it because the offensive line to the 727 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 3: collective five, they've only started two games together. 728 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: Cardinals were the least penalized team last season as far 729 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: as total penalties, they had the second fewest accepted penalties. 730 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: They had these second fewest pre snap penalties, second fewest 731 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: false start penalties. So that discipline that you're talking about, 732 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: hopefully again carries over from last year to this year 733 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: as far as making sure as you're an offensive lineman, 734 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: don't move into the ball as snap. The worst thing 735 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: is a third and three becomes a third and eight. 736 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, your playbook shrinks and the 737 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: defense has a better idea of what you're going to do. 738 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: And those those would be the non negotiable mistakes that 739 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: Jonathan Gennon likes to talk about not going to play 740 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: a perfect game, but there are certain mistakes that are 741 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: not accepted, and the pre snap post nap are penalties 742 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: that you cannot afford to do. 743 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 3: One hundred percent. When I asked Drew Petsying about utilizing 744 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 3: this snap count and if it's something that's based off 745 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 3: of discipline or off of fundamentals, and he said that 746 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 3: they practice it every single day. But the one thing 747 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 3: that you cannot replicate during practice is the adrenaline that 748 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 3: a player will have come game day. And in Week one, 749 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,240 Speaker 3: the energy is definitely gonna be a little bit higher. 750 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,240 Speaker 3: You could already sense it the way that Jonathan Gannon 751 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 3: barged into the press conference room on Friday. He said, 752 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 3: we're burning daylight. 753 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: Let's go. 754 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 3: What are your questions even before he sat down, and 755 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 3: then when he sat down he said, not kidding, like so, 756 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 3: so we we have to that this team has their 757 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 3: I feel like the urgency is there, and I know 758 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 3: in Darren Urban's article on Azycardinals dot Com, Kalays Campbell 759 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 3: discussed about the urgency and said, you have to be 760 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 3: urgent when you're on the customs. Something that's something that 761 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 3: I think is starting to seem a little bit more 762 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 3: real as we approach now the forty eight hour mark 763 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 3: till game day. 764 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,439 Speaker 1: Good stuff. Look forward to your article on Saturday about 765 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: the pass rush because that is something that we have 766 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: not really seen, especially have not seen any of Josh 767 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: Sweat on the field outside of practice. But your high 768 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: price free agent, what does he look like within this defense? 769 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 3: And I will give a preview into the article regardless 770 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 3: if I get the chance to speak with Josh Josh Sweat, 771 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 3: his fingerprints are all over this game. In terms of 772 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 3: his previous successes in the NFL, his first two sack 773 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 3: game came in twenty twenty with the Jaunt again I'm 774 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 3: pretty sure as the defense coordinator at that point, and 775 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 3: his first two sack game came against the Saints. His 776 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 3: one in lone interception that he has during his Now 777 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 3: you know, Illustria or how many years has he been 778 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 3: in the league? 779 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 4: Now? 780 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,439 Speaker 3: Seven? Eight? This is your eight? This is year number eight, right. 781 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 3: His only interception so far has been against the Dallas 782 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 3: Cowboys with Kellen Moore as the offensive coordinator, and of 783 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,760 Speaker 3: course we know his last game as a Photodelphy Eagle 784 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 3: came inside that Supernome as a Super Bowl champion when 785 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 3: he had two and a half sacks. So it's gonna 786 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 3: be something that I think. There's a lot of signs 787 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 3: pointing to a successful first NFL Cardinal's debut with Josh Sweat. 788 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 3: I'm eager to see it. 789 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: Look at you connecting the dots. 790 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 3: I try. 791 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:24,919 Speaker 1: That was pretty good. 792 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 3: I try look forward to that article. 793 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 1: Also enjoy the bird watching this weekend. 794 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 3: I will very much enjoy it. Alarm will be set. 795 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: And on that note, and it'd better be set because 796 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: you are going to get a text at five thirty 797 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: in the morning to make sure you're up. 798 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,439 Speaker 3: I know I do. This is just so the Bird 799 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 3: gang knows. When Craig makes these comments. It's it's not 800 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 3: just like for everyone's you know, it's entertaining. I get 801 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 3: the text message very real. 802 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 4: It's very real. 803 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: Make sure everyone is up at five thirty. Here, Paul 804 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: the bets early bird. 805 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 3: We expect the best from one another. 806 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,839 Speaker 1: On that note, we will put a lit on this edition. 807 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two presented by Hundai, proud partner of the 808 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. As always special thanks to our executive producer 809 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 1: Jim amhundro Our associate producer Coddy Fincher for Zach Kershman, 810 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm Craig Rayelu. We'll talk to you next time here 811 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: on Cardinals Cover two.