1 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to you, 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: Hear from our studios at Lambeufield here to talk about 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: Packers Vikings. It will be a noon Central Time kickoff 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: on Sunday at Lambeufield. The Packers back at home. Work 7 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: wise for us, we're back in the noontime slot, which 8 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: just makes life a little bit easier and allows us 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: to get some more sleep. But all of that aside, West, 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: Let's talk about this Minnesota Vikings team in twenty twenty 11 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: three because there's a lot of personnel overhaul in the 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: off season, a very slow start where they were zero 13 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 1: and three out of the gate, but they've now won 14 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: three of their last four games to get to three 15 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: and four, and it's been an interesting progression because the 16 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: two wins of the season were against the Panthers and 17 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: against the Bears, and everybody was like, Okay, yeah, the 18 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: Vikings started zero to three, you know, lost a couple 19 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: of tough games, but they should probably beat the Panthers 20 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: and they should probably beat the Bears, so nobody, you know, 21 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: they weren't, you know, creating any ripples in the NFL landscape. Well, lo, 22 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: and behold Monday night, the San Francisco forty nine ers 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: come into US Bank Stadium in Minneapolis, and the Vikings 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: knocked them off. And not some kind of like a 25 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: fluke or a lucky bounce or anything. That was a 26 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: very strong performance by the Vikings on both sides of 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: the ball from start to finish in that game. And 28 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: the Vikings are starting to feel pretty good about themselves, 29 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: and for good reason. That was an impressive victory. And 30 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: now they're going to be looking to build on that 31 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: as they come into lambeau Field on Sunday. 32 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: Well, like I said to you a couple of weeks ago, 33 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: I mean, the Vikings had to figure out offensively, what 34 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: was the next step without justin Jefferson here. They certainly 35 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: did that. You could see how much stuff they drew 36 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: up for TJ. Hockinson, who now is dealing with the 37 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: foot injury. We'll have to see what's going to be 38 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: his situation this week. But in terms of the explosive plays, 39 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: Jordan Addison became that outlet for Kirk Cousins and they 40 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 2: made some great plays when they had to make them 41 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: in that game against San Francisco. I think what has 42 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: probably impressed me most about the Vikings so far though, 43 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: because you know what you're getting in Kirk Cousins. We'll 44 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: talk about in your second but he's a consistent, steady 45 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: force for them. But defensively there's been a huge uptick. 46 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: As much as the offense has had to rally without Jefferson, 47 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: what the defense has done without Marcus Davenport. The season 48 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: that Daniel Hunter is off to back to back weeks 49 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: where they win the NFC Defensive Player of the Week 50 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: award with Jordan Hicks after the Chicago game and then 51 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: Cameron buying them last this past week against the forty 52 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: nine ers. Guys are making plays and when you make plays, Mike, 53 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: you win in this league. 54 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. I want to touch on one thing with regard 55 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: to the offense, because you said it. Jordan Addison had 56 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: his true breakout game on the national stage Monday nights. 57 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: Evan catches one hundred and twenty three yards two touchdowns, 58 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: including that sixty yarder at the end of the first 59 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: half that where he stole the deep ball from Jimmy Ward. 60 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: It looked like an interception and then turned into a 61 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: sixty yard TD. Interestingly, though, the Vikings offense looked like 62 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: a really tough slog in its first game without Jefferson 63 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: because that game at Soldier Field in Chicago, they were searching, 64 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: they were trying to find something, and they probably don't 65 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: win that game in Chicago if not for Jordan hicks 66 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: defensive touchdown on the scoop and score, which is what 67 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: got him helped to get him the NFC Defensive Player 68 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: of the Week. But then from one week to the next, 69 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: when they're trying to figure out, Okay, what's this offense 70 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: going to look like without Justin Jefferson, then suddenly on 71 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: the Monday night, Jordan Addison goes off and has a 72 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: has a tremendous game for them Defensively. I wrote about this, 73 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: there's a story. I know. We've had issues with content 74 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: and when things have gotten there's a lot of stuff 75 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: on our website folks. 76 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: People thought I got let go on Instagram. 77 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of stuff on our website folks that 78 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: has gone up in the last I would say, you know, 79 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: fifteen to sixteen hours because of a shutdown that was 80 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: beyond our Control on Wednesday, so some content is piled 81 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: up and there are some things worth checking out. One 82 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: of those is a story I wrote about the Vikings 83 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: defense and Brian Flores, the new defensive coordinator there. He 84 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 1: is playing an aggressive brand of defense. The Vikings have 85 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: a blitz rate, according to Pro Football Reference, of fifty 86 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: six percent, and a blitz being defined as sending more 87 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: than four pass rushers on a given pass play. The 88 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: number two team in the league in that category is 89 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: at forty two percent, so for them to be at 90 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: fifty six percent, it tells you how outside the norm 91 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: they are. A couple of interesting things about that, though. 92 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: It seems that the biggest beneficiary as far as the 93 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: pass rush goes with all of the blitzing has been 94 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: Daniel Hunter. I think the blitzing has created a lot 95 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: of one on ones for Daniel Hunter, and he's very 96 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: difficult to block one on one. The Vikings have nineteen 97 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: sacks this year, nine of them from Daniel Hunter. He 98 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: is the guy who is getting to the quarterback. And 99 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: I think it's Brian Flores, his style of defense that 100 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: is creating those opportunities for you. 101 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Hunter has to be pleased about this. Too, 102 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: because the way they're utilizing him, I mean he's lining 103 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: up over the center at times, you know, he's working 104 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: off the edges. I mean his I think more than 105 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 2: any and Mike Zimmer is a great defensive mind. But 106 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 2: the way they've sort of opened the box here on 107 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: Hunter and Mike, I'll be honest with you, I had 108 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: a lot of questions because when you hear you know, 109 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: five ten years ago, you hear next surgeries and things 110 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: of that nature, you really wonder, hey, what does that 111 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 2: mean for a player's long term prognosis and viability in 112 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: this league? And Daniel Hunter has come back and been 113 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: a force for them this year. They made some significant 114 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: changes with that defense. A Darius Smith goes down to 115 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns, they kind of said, hey, we're going 116 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: to bring in Marcus Davenport, but a lot of this 117 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: is going to be on Hunter to be our lead guy. 118 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 2: And he's done that. But you know, one of the 119 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: big reasons too. And I haven't been able to really 120 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: do anything with this yet this week, but it's just 121 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: from watching the Vikings this year. I think, as much 122 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: as they blitz and as much pressure as they bring, 123 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: how can you oftentimes get away with that. It's because 124 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 2: you're getting really good safety play. You have a guy 125 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 2: like Harrison Smith there who's been doing this now for 126 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 2: eleven years at a really high level. You look at 127 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: his stats this year at Loan Mike, you don't even 128 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: have to watch the film, force fumble, sacks, takeaways. The 129 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 2: guy just gets the job done. And then you have 130 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: a young guy like buying him now too that's making plays. 131 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 2: A fourth rowne pick from twenty twenty one, that was 132 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: a big hiccup here at the last stage of the 133 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: Mike zimomer eras they just I think they just they 134 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 2: lost a lot of their depth defensively. I think you've 135 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 2: slowly seen them build that back while still having some 136 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,119 Speaker 2: of those staples that we've known for so long. Yeah. 137 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think the I think what the Vikings, what 138 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: the Vikings have hit on with with cam bynam As 139 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: that partner at safety with Harrison Smith is really something 140 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: not you know, buying them actually, as you mentioned, gets 141 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: the NFC Defensive Player of the Week. He has the 142 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: interceptions too in the fourth quarter on San Francisco's two 143 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: possessions as they were trying to rally to to steal 144 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: that game back. Away from the Vikings. We saw it 145 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: a few years ago. The Vikings got a really good 146 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: season from Andrews Anddejo next to Harrison Smith, but then 147 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: he got a nice free agent contract elsewhere and off 148 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,239 Speaker 1: he went. And then the Vikings were looking for another 149 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: partner for Harrison Smith again. So they seem to have 150 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: coming back. 151 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: I think at that he ended up coming back, if. 152 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: I remember that, right, Yeah, you may you may be right. 153 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: But now they seem to have they seem to have 154 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,119 Speaker 1: found one with buying them. You know, we we talked 155 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: so much over the years about uh, you know Eric 156 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: Kendricks and Anthony barr as those two you know linebacker 157 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: mainstays for Minnesota. Well, now Jordan Hicks is the guy 158 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: who's who's getting a lot of attention and playing pretty well. 159 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: And it's all being combined with this, with this new 160 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: this new approach, the new style that that Brian Flores 161 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: has employed. Interestingly, though, when you look at when you 162 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: look at this the statistics overall, for as much as 163 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: the Vikings blitz, you know, nineteen sacks is a decent number. 164 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: As I said, nine of them by daneil Hunter, nineteen 165 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: sacks is tied for tenth in the league. But opposing 166 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are still completing seventy four percent of their passes 167 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: against the Vikings, and the overall passer rating for opposing 168 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: quarterbacks against Minnesota is around one hundred and two. So 169 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: it's not as though defensively the Vikings are just are 170 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: are dictating everything and dominating or whatever. Like, you know, 171 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: their blitzes have been beaten, they've taken they've taken some chances. 172 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: They paid the price in certain respects, but Brian Flores 173 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: is sticking with this style. This is this is who 174 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: the Vikings are. This is who they're going to be, 175 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: and they're going to you know, ride or die with it, 176 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: so to speak. It presents a really, really interesting challenge 177 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: for the Packers, not only because Jordan Love is a 178 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: first year starter at quarterback he hasn't really faced a 179 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: defense like this before, but the Packers up front with 180 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: their offensive line, the pass protection, I thought was maybe 181 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: the biggest strength of the offense through the first three 182 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: weeks of the season, even when things were you know, 183 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: went south for a while in the New Orleans game 184 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: in Week three, and then the Packers came back and 185 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: won those first three games. The Packers pass protection was 186 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: quite good. The next three games, the pass protection hasn't 187 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: been so good. And now here come the Vikings with 188 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: this blitz happy package. 189 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's really going to be. Where can the 190 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: Packers try to take advantage of that. It's the screen game, 191 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: it's some of the short games of the quick game stuff. 192 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 2: Getting to a rhythm, something that Jordan Love talked about, 193 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 2: you know, making sure that you find when the opportunities 194 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: are there and you're in a good spot, getting the 195 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: most yards out of those plays, explosive plays. It was 196 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 2: a big, you know, buzzword too in the locker room 197 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 2: on Wednesday. Guys just looking to make bigger things happen. 198 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 2: The thing that's interesting about the Vikings is that pretty 199 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 2: much they're they're fifteen across the board, like I mean, 200 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 2: they're just they're right there. Sacks, total yards, passing, everything's 201 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 2: just kind of right there, takeaways, all that right in 202 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 2: the middle. The Packers have to find a way to 203 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: get them on their heels the way in which they 204 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: were on their heels earlier this season. Maybe that doesn't happen. 205 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 2: Maybe enough young guys have stepped up. Maybe you have 206 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: a guy like Hicks in the middle of that defense, 207 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: who's kind of had a revitalization of his career. People 208 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: kind of forget like Arizona kind of shipped him out 209 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 2: at the end of that run there, and he resurfaces 210 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: with the Vikings has played really good ball for them 211 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: because the fix has been around for what probably eight 212 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 2: nine years already in the NFL. But at the end 213 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: of the day, Green needs to be able to maximize 214 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: the chances that they're presented with that blitz game, whether 215 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: that's getting the run game established or the screen game. 216 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: Just Jordan Lovefield like himself again. But Mike, you are 217 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: right the Packers offensive line, that was seen as one 218 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 2: of the big strengths of this unit going into the 219 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 2: year when you had David Baktiari and Elton Jenkins standing there. 220 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 2: You don't have that combination anymore. How is the adjustments 221 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: going to be made throughout the course of the season 222 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: to make sure that they talk about time and time 223 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 2: again the efforts there, but the execution is so pivotable, 224 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: not only to love but also with that run game. 225 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I want to get a little bit more 226 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: into Keys to Victory here in a minute, West, But 227 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: first I'll take care of some sponsor business. Serious XM 228 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: NFL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up to the 229 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: minute NFL news that true football fanatics need twenty four 230 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: to seven, three sixty five. 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They jump start the offense, they 241 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: get things going, they put the defense on its heels. 242 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: This strikes me from and just watching watching San Francisco 243 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: have so many fits and starts offensively against this Vikings defense. 244 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can just drop back and 245 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: try to push the ball down the field against this 246 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: Vikings defense. With the way Bidam is playing at safety, 247 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna have Harrison Smith back there with the way 248 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 1: they blitz doesn't always allow for a lot of downfield 249 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: routes to develop. But the Vikings, because of their pressure scheme, 250 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: they put themselves in some vulnerable positions where if you 251 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: can break one tackle that might create an explosive game, 252 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: that might turn a six yard play into a twenty 253 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: six yard play because they're compromise based on how they 254 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: come after the quarterback. The San Francisco forty nine Ers 255 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: got back into that game on Monday night with a 256 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: quick little slip pass to Christian McCaffrey. They had two 257 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: guys that got blocked, one guy missed the tackle, and boom, 258 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: McCaffrey was gone for a thirty five yard touchdown, and 259 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: suddenly that game changed and the forty nine ers were 260 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: potentially on the verge of pulling off a comeback there. 261 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: I think the explosive plays, if the Packers are going 262 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: to get them, they're going to come from getting players 263 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: the ball in space and trying to make somebody miss, 264 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: not so much forcing the ball downfield against the defense 265 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: that I don't know if necessarily is going to allow 266 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: that very easily. 267 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: Well, and then that's where it kind of ties into 268 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 2: what my biggest key is going to be and I'm 269 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,479 Speaker 2: sure it's gonna be something we'll be talking about, hopefully 270 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: maybe not after Sunday if it works out the way 271 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 2: it does is taking the ball away and not being 272 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 2: the team that blinks first. Because you go back, you 273 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: think about that game against Denver. Packers played really clean 274 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: offensively until the final series. Denver Broncos never turned over 275 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: the football in that game. So while it is just 276 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: one interception late when they are trying to push the 277 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 2: ball down field, how much does that one turnover change 278 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: the course of a football game. Now, maybe they get 279 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: the ten yard pickup and then maybe they end up 280 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: not having any completion whatever. But if you're not going 281 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: to get the takeaways, you need to protect the football. 282 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 2: And for the Green Bay Packers, they need to get 283 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 2: more movement on those two sides of things. And I 284 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: think defensively for the Packers having as strong of a 285 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: showing as they did against Chicago. Now, mind you, Bears 286 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: are going through some big transition points in that Week 287 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: one game, but that was their only fumble recovery of 288 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: the season. In that game, two of the interceptions if 289 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: my memory serves correctly, and they only are sitting on 290 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 2: five takeaways at this point. Now going into week eight, they. 291 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: Have the only takeaways since week one are the two 292 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: Rudy Ford interceptions against the Lions and against the Raidings. 293 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 2: Actually the interception Quay had the interception and unfortunately Quay 294 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 2: dropped the one against the Falcons. 295 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and job miss went against the Falcons as well. 296 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: And then yeah, they've kind of not the opportunities haven't 297 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: been there. Yeah, So I mean you have to be 298 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: able to create yourselves opportunities. And for Agreement to start 299 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: the way they did, I would have never thought, you know, 300 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: sitting here in week eight now they'd be tied for 301 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: the bottom of the league right now in terms of 302 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: you know, where they're at and generating turnovers. 303 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's always that's always a tough one because obviously, 304 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: as the old saying goes, and Larry mccaerron said it 305 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: on our Three Things video that we shot on Wednesday, 306 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: that you know, turnovers can come in bunches, and that's 307 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: what happened for this defense last year. I mean that 308 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: four game winning streak at the end of the year 309 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: that that got the Packers back in the wild card hunt. 310 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: That was very much fueled by turnovers defensively opponent, the 311 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: Packers were taking the ball away, doing it on a 312 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: regular basis, and it it really provided the you know, 313 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: the rocket boost to what became a four game winning streak. 314 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: You always have to be careful though, right because because 315 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: if you're if you're trying to force the issue too 316 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: much with regard to turnovers, that's when tackles get missed. 317 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: That's when you know, a short pass con rupt you 318 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: into into a big gain, that kind of thing. So 319 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: there's there's always there's always a fine line there, but 320 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: it really is about the entire the entire defense, because 321 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: turnovers are forced by pressuring the quarterback, by making him uncomfortable, 322 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: you know, all those things. So a lot of times 323 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: interceptions are as much the result of the pass rush 324 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: leading to a bad throw as the guy in the 325 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: back end, you know, making a great a great play 326 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: on his own. So it all goes hand in hand 327 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: and uh and teamwork wise, the Packers have to find 328 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: a way to start getting some takeaways because they have 329 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: been hard to come by. 330 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: The best example of this entire season is the Raiders game. 331 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: I mean, the Las Vegas Raiders did not chase anything 332 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: in that game, it was deflected passes turning interceptions. It 333 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 2: was a timely pick at the end of the game. 334 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: I mean that that's where these things come from. I'll 335 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: be honest with you, I'm actually still kind of shocked 336 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 2: the Packers haven't had a strip sack yet other than 337 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 2: Kenny's at the start of the season. Like that part 338 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: of it has really been surprising to me, just with 339 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: the way that Shaun Garry has rushed the passer and 340 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: the amount of force that he's been going into guys. 341 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 2: That's a credit to the quarterbacks to be able to 342 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: hold onto that thing. But yeah, it's right there for them, 343 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: and they have to make these things happen, especially against 344 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins. I mean, you and I have talked about 345 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: this all week long, Mike. He has one hundred and 346 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: five career passer rating against Green Bay. He's five and 347 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: five all time against them. You like that, one and five, 348 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: five and one. Sorry to get that correct. 349 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: There was the one tie in there. 350 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 2: But go back to what was the most probably dominant 351 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 2: performance green Bay had against him. It was last December. Yeah, 352 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: and it was their biggest win of that season while 353 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: the Vikings were basically getting ready for a playoff run. 354 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was. That was by far Kirk Cousins worst 355 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: game as a as a quarterback against the Packers. He had, 356 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: you know, through three interceptions. The Vikings offense never really 357 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: got going until the game was well out of hand. 358 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: Even his his statistics in that game were somewhat misleading 359 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: because until the Vikings you know got you know, got 360 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:11,239 Speaker 1: some some points late that didn't really matter. It was. 361 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: It was a really really awful day for Minnesota's offense. 362 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: I mean, can can the Packers somehow do that to 363 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 1: the Vikings offense again? We'll see. I mean Justin Jefferson's 364 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: not out there. Jordan Addison is going to be a 365 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: big part of this thing, and TJ. Hockinson is going 366 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: to be a big part of this thing too. Either. 367 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: There's some major challenges for green Bay even though Justin 368 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: Jefferson is on ir. 369 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 2: Yep, No, it's going to be a real challenge. And 370 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: that's why green Bay, like we said last week, going 371 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: into Denver, you cannot take any of these games for 372 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 2: granted at this point because Michael, it does not get 373 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: any easier than the stretch. You're getting three or four 374 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: at home, you're playing all these things at noon games, 375 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 2: and then on the other side of it, you're looking 376 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 2: at Detroit and Kansas City, so you have to be 377 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: able to get some wins here. 378 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you look at things from the Vikings perspective too, 379 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: they're like, you know, as we mentioned at the top 380 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: of the show, they started out zero to three at 381 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: this as, okay, we can come into lambeau Field. If 382 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: we can beat the Packers, get to four and four, 383 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: then it's almost like they're starting over. They get a 384 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: clean slate, they get back to five hundred. That's what 385 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: the Packers were hoping for with Denver. If the Packers 386 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: could have gotten the win in Denver, you're three and three, 387 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: you know, and kind of you throw everything out the 388 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: window and try to move forward, and then but you 389 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: don't get that victory, and now you're still you're still chasing, 390 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: you're still building. So the Packers are trying to do that. 391 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: The Packers are trying to prevent the Vikings from, you know, 392 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: from getting to that restart point at five hundred. Two teams, 393 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: you know, very for you know, what still counts as 394 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: an early season game. Two teams that are that are 395 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: still very much trying to find exactly what direction they're 396 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: going to go. 397 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: Here and what a victory does in the National Football League. 398 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: I mean, this is kind of a topic that I 399 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 2: know Aaron Rodgers touched on with Pat McAfee this week. 400 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 2: One win changes everything. I mean, you look at the 401 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings, even what I wrote on Monday originally for 402 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 2: our Insider Inbox column, and then they come out and 403 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 2: they play the way they did against San Francisco the 404 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: New York Jets. I mean, now you're listening to some 405 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 2: of these things this week with the Broncos talking about 406 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: how they want to end their losing streak to the 407 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs that's been sixteen in a row or 408 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 2: whatever like that. Yeah, one win, It's crazy, man, This 409 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: is a crazy, crazy league. 410 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: A couple other games I want to mention, just because 411 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: it's a very curious schedule in the NFL this week. 412 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: In Week eight, there were two two what you call 413 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: the cross conference games that kind of caught my eye. 414 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: One is Cleveland is at Seattle and the other one 415 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: is Cincinnati is at San Francisco. I think both of 416 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: these are really intriguing games in terms of teams that 417 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: obviously don't face each other very often. Cleveland's still going 418 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: with PJ. Walker at quarterback. Deshaun Watson won't be able 419 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: to play, you know, don't look now, but the Seattle 420 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: Seahawks are four and two and now have a home 421 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: game with a chance to a chance to get to 422 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: five and two. And then the Bengals they you know, 423 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: they got themselves back to even they're at that three 424 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: and three point where they're going to try to jump 425 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: start and move forward, but they have to go to 426 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: San Francisco and play a Niners team now that has 427 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: suddenly lost two straight after a five and zero start. 428 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: You know exactly where our things with San Francisco and 429 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: the offense, with the injuries they're dealing with with Deebo 430 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: Samuels and Trent Williams and guys like that, those two 431 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: games just really intriguing to me in terms of sort 432 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: of that uncommon opponent type stuff. 433 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: And just to give credit again to the Vikings, I 434 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 2: mean they they responded better without their top wide out 435 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 2: than the forty nine ers did. Now. I know Samuel 436 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 2: is not the same type of receiver. They'll use him 437 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: in sixty different ways, but that offense really struggled without him. 438 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: There I thought that was sort of the running made 439 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: to Christian McCaffrey, and they just they lost something without 440 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: him on the field with that shoulder injury. But yeah, 441 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: this whole week, Mike, I mean, look at all these 442 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: matchups when you talk about it. You know, the Rams 443 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: going up against the Cowboys, that's a huge game for 444 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 2: both of those teams. CJ. Stroud taking on Bryce Young, 445 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 2: the Jaguars and the Steelers. I mean, for whatever reason, 446 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 2: there's no buys this week. I didn't understand that. 447 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: Oh really, I don't know how to. 448 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 2: I can't figure out, for the life of me, the 449 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: algorithm the NFL is using with bye weeks. Last year 450 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 2: there wasn't Week five bye weeks, and this year Week 451 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 2: four bye weeks, and this year there was, and now 452 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: there's no Week eight bye weeks. That maybe we're observing 453 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 2: Halloween or something. I'm not sure, but that seems very 454 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 2: odd to me. But getting back to the original crux 455 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 2: of this thing, you have teams like the Browns in 456 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 2: the Seahawks, those are very incomplete teams. The Browns are 457 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: winning these things with one of the best defenses we've 458 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: seen in this era, but they have really crazy questions, 459 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 2: right now yet their quarterback position the Seahawks. You know, 460 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker, the third is dealing with a calf injury 461 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 2: right now. How's that gonn affect him? They need him going. 462 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: Tyler Lockett is not doing anything like That's what makes 463 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: this league so interesting on a week to week basis 464 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: is you have teams that are rising in full and 465 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 2: it really seems to swing by the quarter and it'll 466 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 2: be very interesting to see where it goes. But the 467 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 2: message of that that I want to today and the 468 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: point I want to make with that is it does 469 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: show you what the power of one win can do, 470 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 2: especially in a Green Bay Packers case where they're looking 471 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: to end this three game losing streak. 472 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, that's what the Packers are after. It's get 473 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: a win and then try to move forward from there. 474 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: And it's about time that the Packers get one. So 475 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: with that, we will call it a rap on this 476 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of 477 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: our coverage of the team and everything from Sunday's game 478 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: at lambeau Field. We will have it all for you 479 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: on Packers dot Com. For Wes, I'm Mike. Thank you 480 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: for tuning in. Everybody, we will see you next time.