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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites that podcast presented by BET three

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Speaker 1: sixty five. We are part of the Action Network. It

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Speaker 1: is officially NFL Acquisition season. That's because it is NFL

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Speaker 1: Combine Week in Indianapolis. D lineman and linebackers working out Thursday,

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Speaker 1: dbs and tight ends on Friday, the marquee positions Saturday

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Speaker 1: afternoon that's quarterbacks, running backs and receivers. And then for

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Speaker 1: the true football freaks, the hardcores O lineman working out Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Watch all the workouts NFL Network. I am Chad Mollman,

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Speaker 1: Chief Content Officer of the Action Network, and we are

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Speaker 1: going to get all the NFL goodness today with my

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Speaker 1: co host, my bff, my companion, Michaeh Padre professional at

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Speaker 1: her Simon Hunter. Hello, so I am it.

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Speaker 2: I've become by a week Chad brother.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned the combine. You mentioned the combine. We love

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Speaker 1: the combine. Uh. We need to give a shout out

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Speaker 1: to a very special someone. Many many moons ago, thirty

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Speaker 1: years ago, when I started my career out of college

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Speaker 1: at Sports Illustrated, I covered my first combine and normally

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Speaker 1: my job, Simon was fact checking the NFL Insider column

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Speaker 1: for Peter King, and for those who don't know who

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Speaker 1: Peter King is, a job that was a great It

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Speaker 1: was a great job. I literally got out of college

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Speaker 1: got a job at Sports Illustrated. It was late summer

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Speaker 1: and they assigned me to fact check Peter King, who

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Speaker 1: you don't know like Peter King, was Adam Schefter and

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Speaker 1: WOJ rolled into one for the NFL, and Sports Illustrated

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Speaker 1: in the mid nineties was bigger than an ESPN was

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Speaker 1: big but didn't do what s I was doing. There

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Speaker 1: was no Internet that people were competing with. It was

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Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated. It was Peter King's NFL column. He had

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Speaker 1: a Monday night football gig and I was his fact checker.

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Speaker 1: And right out of college, it was amazing. And he

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Speaker 1: is the sweetest, kindest, most thoughtful, gracious, encouraging, supportive mentor

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Speaker 1: anybody could have and anybody would say that. He loved

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Speaker 1: the combine so much. He was so ahead of everyone

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Speaker 1: on how to cover it, recognizing the value of the

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Speaker 1: all inclusive NFL experience. He couldn't go, so he sent

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Speaker 1: me and he looks at me and he goes, Chad,

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Speaker 1: He's got a really distinct way of speaking. I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to try to imitate it. Chad, you are going

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Speaker 1: to love it. Gms are going to whisper sweet nothings

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Speaker 1: in your ear over drinks. And the way he described it,

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Speaker 1: it was so romantic. It was like, if you can't

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Speaker 1: get into covering the NFL after hearing Peter King talk

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Speaker 1: to you about covering the NFL, then you're not meant

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Speaker 1: for this business. And I mentioned Peter King because he

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Speaker 1: announced his retirement yesterday. You know, for years he was

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Speaker 1: at Sports Illustrator. He started the Monday Morning Quarterback section

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Speaker 1: at Sports Illustrated based on his brilliant column Monday Morning Quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He then took it to NBC did Football Morning in

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Speaker 1: America at the column at nbcsports dot Com was on

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Speaker 1: Football Night in America for so long. He has officially

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Speaker 1: announced his retirement after forty years of covering the NFL.

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Speaker 1: So we will raise our glass to Peter King, my

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Speaker 1: first boss, a Hall of Famer who helped pioneer modern

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Speaker 1: day NFL coverage. Did you know that? Did you know

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Speaker 1: who Peter King was and his sort of import.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know your connection to him. I mean, Chad,

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Speaker 2: any name you can drop, I am shocked. And you

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Speaker 2: don't drop it earlier. So knowing that I never knew

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Speaker 2: that you worked for Peter King's pretty amazing for me.

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Speaker 2: He's I guess, he is a hero. He's someone I've

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Speaker 2: read since I was very young, and I'm with Chad,

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Speaker 2: like I just every Monday morning, whether my team would

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Speaker 2: win or lose, I'd read Peter's column. And you know,

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Speaker 2: as I've gotten older, I've seen Peter through a different light,

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Speaker 2: especially now getting in the media. I'm happy Peter kept

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Speaker 2: doing it because I know, I mean, I'm sure you

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Speaker 2: know the spine closed doors. I've heard he he doesn't

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Speaker 2: like sports betty. He's not a fan of sports betting.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't like how much it's in intertwined with football nowadays.

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Speaker 2: So I hope he keeps doing some type of work

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Speaker 2: with football because I love his view his viewpoint on stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's just he just takes me back to a different time, right.

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Speaker 2: He's just from a different area. He's a different type

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Speaker 2: of writer. So it's a sad day. It's sad. It's

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Speaker 2: sad and you lose someone like this. But I think

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Speaker 2: he's like a lot of these guys who stake a

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Speaker 2: year off, maybe they get the itch again me. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you read his last piece, but it

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Speaker 2: seemed like he just lost that itch. I hope he

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Speaker 2: just takes a little break and he comes back, just

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Speaker 2: because football is better when Peter King is involved in it.

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Speaker 1: So look, you're right about all of it. It is

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Speaker 1: And the most impressive thing is Peter is one of

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Speaker 1: those guys who sources loved, not because he was trying

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Speaker 1: to kiss their ass. He was a good guy who

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Speaker 1: was unbelievably fair. He would report what he knew. He

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Speaker 1: would be fair about letting you comment, He would be

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Speaker 1: fair about letting you know when it was coming. He

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Speaker 1: knew everybody, knew everything, worked harder than everybody, and treated

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Speaker 1: everybody with kindness, like just a class act all the way.

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Speaker 1: And I'm glad you. I'm glad you appreciate it and

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Speaker 1: recognized if Peter King. Actually, you know, back in New York,

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Speaker 1: you had to when you would buy an apartment. It

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Speaker 1: you needed reference letters and when my wife and I

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Speaker 1: bought our first apartment in a co op in New York.

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Speaker 1: Peter King wrote me the.

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Speaker 2: Reference letter good guy, just a good guy.

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Speaker 1: Good guy all the way around, one of the best,

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Speaker 1: one of the best to ever do it.

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Speaker 1: as I said, it's the beginning of acquisition season. We

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Speaker 1: got the run to the draft. But this week the

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Speaker 1: salary cap in the NFL is two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: five million dollars higher than it's ever been, thirty one

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Speaker 1: and things we're going to talk about today. Teams with

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Speaker 1: salary cap space, quarterback rankings for the draft, What in

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Speaker 1: the world is happening in New England. I want to

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Speaker 1: start with who do you trust versus who is closest?

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Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is, if you look

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Speaker 1: at the teams with the most salary cap space, Commanders

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Speaker 1: Who do we trust the most? Right now? Between the Bears,

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Speaker 2: None of them, but the Bears, I suppose, if that's

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Speaker 2: my choices. The Patriots, we have no idea what their

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Speaker 2: feature is about to be, Like, Like, they are truly

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Speaker 2: stepping into the unknown for the first time well over

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Speaker 2: twenty years, and it could be disastrous, right, Like, the

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Speaker 2: whole Patriots scenario could be a nightmare. Sam goes for

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Speaker 2: Washington and the new ownership they have, right, we have

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Speaker 2: no idea if this new ownership is going to be good.

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Speaker 2: They're putting the right people in place, you know, both

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Speaker 2: The Patriots aren't forced to make a decision where Washington is.

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Speaker 2: There's a big decision for them to make. Between Daniels

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Speaker 2: Bears are. It feels like ahead of all both those

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Speaker 2: you guys have some people to build around at least

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Speaker 2: this draft. If it breaks right, and if your GM's aggressive,

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Speaker 2: you could walk away with the number one quarterback and

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Speaker 2: another number one receiver. Like this is these top three

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Speaker 2: these mocks have any of these guys falling to you,

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Speaker 2: which is you go out you get a number one

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Speaker 2: a wattle, go get yourself to Dante Smith, you attack

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Speaker 2: these teams just because they have this pick because of

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Speaker 2: a trade Chad. So yeah, the GM has already proven

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Speaker 2: so I will let him keep making these picks. Solim

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Speaker 1: They did say they won't use the franchise tag and

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Speaker 1: Bears currently forty to one to win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Pats and Commanders, reflective of their status, one hundred and

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Speaker 2: it's Chicago Bears Chicago Bulls fans, right, the Chicago Bulls

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Speaker 1: What an interesting analogy which I have not heard anybody make,

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Speaker 2: I like it, Yeah, And just the whole thing about them,

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Speaker 2: So interesting days ahead for this Patriots organization.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about the AFC South for a second,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's exciting, But like you said, I feel like

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Speaker 2: like you just said it, a year later, every team

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Speaker 1: Well, you just made a good point about the money, right,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like the guy is lockdown confident who just makes

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Speaker 1: a sudden, you've got like legit edge rush, legit quarterback,

430
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: legit cornerback who is locking people down that team all

431
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: of a sudden has a window that is wide open

432
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: for four years. They got to they get they get

433
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 1: a great defensive back. That's a that's a tough team.

434
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think again they're going to break the

435
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 2: model because to me, they're a team that I expect

436
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 2: them to get smacked next year. They got a first

437
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 2: place schedule, which means they got to go play the Bills,

438
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 2: they gotta go play the Chiefs, they gotta go play

439
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 2: the Ravens. That's really tough. But like you just said,

440
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: they're the rare team that they got the money. They

441
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 2: can maybe make it, make manage it where they can

442
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: add the players and they can still be a great team.

443
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 2: It's just gonna be really tough with that first place schedule. Uh.

444
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: You mentioned the Patriots potentially moving down getting McCarthy, Do

445
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: they take Drake May A lot of conversation about Marvin

446
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: Harrison Junior, who's not going to be running at the

447
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: at Pro Day. What are you hearing right now? This

448
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 1: is this is the window. Let me rephrase, this is

449
00:24:54,720 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: the window where all the speculation begins, where all of

450
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: the rationale of all the quarterback conversations we've had for

451
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: the past few years. You know, whether it was Oh

452
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: my god, I just forgot his name, the kid from

453
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 1: Alabama who's already washed out in New England.

454
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 2: Oh, Mac mac Jones, mac Jones.

455
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 1: Right, mac Jones going number three. We're like, that makes

456
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 1: no sense. He's not going to go number three. Or

457
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: last year when the Panthers decide they're taking Bryce Young

458
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: and we're like, this makes no sense. It's not pee

459
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: wee football. But what happens is people all of a

460
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: sudden get more and more excited about raw talent that

461
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: they see out of pads, and they forget what they're

462
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: seeing on film. JJ McCarthy, Jayden Daniels, Drake May, from

463
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 1: what you've seen so far, what you're hearing so far,

464
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: how do you think this lands?

465
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Speaker 2: And I'll start by saying this, I love this class

466
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: because all these guys have played it ton there's a

467
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: ton of film, and all these guys were last year

468
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: didn't really have that, especially Anthony Richardson. It's nice when

469
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: you get guys who play a ton of football, and

470
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: it's shocking. I went into this thinking Drake May was

471
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 2: gonna be my slam dunk number two. I loved him

472
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: coming into last season. I thought he played pretty well

473
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 2: for not that great of a team. But yeah, this

474
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels kid, he's just special, Like there's something about him,

475
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: especially seeing that he improved so much these last two seasons,

476
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 2: where clearly he can be coached, and that's a big

477
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 2: deal in football that people can be coached. And Drake

478
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 2: May is the better prospect right now, so I would

479
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 2: not be shocked to see him go number two at Washington.

480
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 2: But I think people are gonna see more and more

481
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: mocks and more people after this combine week talking about

482
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 2: Jaye and Daniels being the number two pick, and it stinks.

483
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: The books are already kind of ahead of it. Like

484
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 2: I've been looking around chat. I think plus one fifty

485
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: is the best thing I could find for him going

486
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 2: to Washington. The Jaden Daniels pick, which is still good,

487
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 2: but I thought it'd be a little better, just because

488
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 2: the Drake May hype was so insane all season. You know,

489
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,719
Speaker 2: looking at the future of the NFL, we've seen a shift.

490
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 2: We've seen a shift that they want to get quarterbacks

491
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: that can use their feet as a weapon. And if

492
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 2: you're a team in Washington that has a horrible offensive line,

493
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 2: do you want to get the Herbert type, which what

494
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 2: Drake That's exactly what Drake May is. I don't know

495
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 2: if I do. Like I know it's kind of lazy

496
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 2: because he went to LSU, but Daniels reminds me of

497
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow the way he moves and all that is

498
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: obviously different because he's such an athletic runner. But right now,

499
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 2: Daniel's biggest weakness, which is not like Joe Burrow, is

500
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 2: he's not great at being in the pocket, having pocket awareness.

501
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 2: So there are some red flags obviously with him. But

502
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 2: it's a big decision that Washington has to make here

503
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: because I just feel like one of these two are

504
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: going to work out, Like both of them have really

505
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 2: good upside if they get the right coaching. I could

506
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 2: see Drake workout, I could see Daniel's workout, like they

507
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: both are incredible prospects. You know, Drake May people talked

508
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: about it. He would probably be the Num. One pick

509
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: right if if there was no Williams. I don't know.

510
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: I think Daniels played well enough these last two years

511
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: where he could put himself in that position, So it's

512
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 2: interesting he's not thrown at the combine Daniels already said

513
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: he's not going to He's gonna wait for his pro day.

514
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: You know, maybe in his mind the information he's getting

515
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: is telling him he doesn't need to. You know, he

516
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 2: mentioned his name. I just don't want to jump around

517
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 2: too much. For Marvin Harris Junior. He passed on having

518
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 2: an agent. I believe Williams did as well. So it's

519
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 2: interesting where the combine is a big deal in the

520
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: football world. Like a lot of trades, A lot of

521
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: stuff happens this weekend. Like I think Fields if he

522
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: has trade, I think he'll be traded at this combine,

523
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: Like they'll set up a trade in place and that's

524
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: when the deal will get done. So yeah, this this

525
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: QB class is incredible. But JJ McCarthy again, we can

526
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: talk about it more as we go along here. I

527
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: really wanted to focus on the other two guys because

528
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 2: I do think they're the fight for the number two pick.

529
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: I don't think JJ, even if he had an incredible combine,

530
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if he can move ahead of those two,

531
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: just because we have so many of their throws on tape.

532
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: JJ did not throw the ball enough and Harbow's offense,

533
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: he just didn't. They were just were not that type

534
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: of team, so that that hurts him honestly, like he

535
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: could be a better prospect than both of them. I

536
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: just have so many more throws on film of those guys,

537
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: and I know exactly what they are, like, I really do.

538
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: Where that's rare coming out a lot of these guys

539
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: coming out because of COVID. They all played three four years,

540
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: So I have a lot of film and a lot

541
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: of these guys, which is rare for coming out of

542
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: college drafts.

543
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: Todd mcshae tweeted either yesterday or today that he has

544
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: two takeaways from his convos with teams in the past week. One,

545
00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: so much more love for Jaden Daniels amongst teams than

546
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: in the media. And this is when it's acquisition season.

547
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: It's also crazy season, right where everybody starts falling in

548
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: love and we all do it. You fall in love

549
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: with games, you fall in love with teams. You think

550
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: you're seeing something that nobody else can see, you blind

551
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: to all the negatives for whatever. But I could easily

552
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: see Jaden Daniels going number two as more and more.

553
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: Look we saw last year with Anthony Richardson right, Anthony

554
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: richardson Hype and you were ahead of this, Anthony richardson Hype,

555
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: Bill Bill Bill. All of a sudden, this guy who

556
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: had started basically one season in Florida became a top

557
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: five pick out of nowhere. Jadan Daniels obviously is not

558
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: coming out of nowhere, but the consensus has been Caleb

559
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: Williams and Drake May Jade and Daniels at number two

560
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: at plus one point fifty, take a piece of it.

561
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 2: I'm already there with you where I bet it where

562
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: we'll see, right, there's always there's always to be a shift,

563
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: or after the combine or after their pro day, we'll

564
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: really kind of know, right, that's when numbers really start shifting.

565
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: But like I feel like you're saying one exactly what

566
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: I'm thinking here. It's like, you know, I don't think

567
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: they're that far apart as the media is making them

568
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: out to me. I could easily see Daniels being minus

569
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: one fifty this time next week. So, like you said,

570
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get ahead of it. Obviously, can't

571
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: get that much money down on it, but happy to

572
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: grab the plus one twenty five plus one fifty if

573
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: you can find it.

574
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah NFL Network says the Commanders should take Drake

575
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: May number two. Merril Hodge, who famously said he wouldn't

576
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: even take Johnny Manziel I think in the first couple

577
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: of rounds, says he wouldn't take Drake May in the

578
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: first round. So that's where we are at this point.

579
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: That's aggressive no draft evaluation.

580
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: And Joe Klatt, who I really respect, he is very

581
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: high on Drake May and he talked about it there

582
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,479
Speaker 2: being a big gap between him and Daniels, and I

583
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: just have not seen it when I've broken down the

584
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: film where it's like Daniels clearly gets better when he

585
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: is good coaching, and that's what happened this past season.

586
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: He took a big step. So yeah, just for me,

587
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: I think he's a better fit for Washington because of

588
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: their offensive line struggles that I think he would have

589
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: a better time step in with Drake May. I could

590
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: just see him get eaten a lot of the NFC

591
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 2: East not being able to move around. I mean, he

592
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: does have wheels, but I've seen nothing close to Daniels.

593
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: Jadane Daniels number two plus one fifty Simon, can you

594
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: name the fastest growing ticketing app in the United.

595
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: States game Time.

596
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: That's right, it's game Time. I love Game Time for

597
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: two reasons. First, they still sponsor this show. Second, I

598
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: actually use game Time all the time. They have last amazing,

599
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: last minute deals for pro and college sports. Speaking of which,

600
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: I'm using the game Time app right now from my

601
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: house here in Connecticut. And guess what I can get

602
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: in to see the New York Nicrobockers tonight for less

603
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: than one hundred dollars at Madison Square Garden. And that's right.

604
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: No matter where you live, download the game Time app,

605
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: get out, have some phone this week. You deserve it.

606
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: You can redeem code favorites for twenty dollars off your

607
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: first purchase. Terms apply again. Just download the game Time

608
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: app and use code favorites for twenty dollars off your

609
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: first purchase. Last minute tickets, lowest prices. Gah Ron tied

610
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: all right. Franchise tagging not tagging has begun. No franchise

611
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: tags for a bevy of running backs. Saquon no franchise tag,

612
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs, no franchise tag, Tony Poler, no franchise tag,

613
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: Austin Eckler, no franchise tag, Derek Henry. No franchise tag.

614
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: The franchise tag that does make some noise. T Higgins

615
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: getting franchise tagged by Cincy. I'll make a statement right now, Simon.

616
00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals consensus fourteen fifteen to one to win the

617
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. The Cincinnati Bengals are the biggest threat to

618
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs in the AFC and to their

619
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: dominance and to their chance to repeat in twenty twenty four.

620
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: Love it, love it at that number as well. So

621
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: we talked about it last week. They're just this is

622
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: this is this season for them. Everything everything is lined

623
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: up perfectly for them. They have the last place schedule,

624
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 2: they have all the players still as if you know,

625
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: Joe Brow hasn't been paid yet. Now they just got

626
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: a thirty million bump in the Caps. It's just it's

627
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: all lined up for this Bengals team. And we believe,

628
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: you know, even last year when they had a backup,

629
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: they still finished with a winning record. Like clearly they

630
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: have good coaching and despite tons of injuries, like you said,

631
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 2: to the defensive side, they still had a winning record.

632
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 2: So it's clearly a team that plays hard, knows how

633
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: to be coached up right, and you know the fact

634
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: that we're getting them in a little bit of a discount.

635
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: It feels like, right, if Joe didn't get hurt, and

636
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: if you want a playoff game, what would they be

637
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: nine to one, ten to one. So it goes a

638
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: we again, an extra plus five hundred year just because

639
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: Joe's coming off an injury, which you know, he says

640
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: he's good to go right now, like he's been working

641
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: out full bore, so he clearly bounced back from that injury.

642
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 2: They'd take him the whole off season.

643
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of doesn't make sense to me. We're

644
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: looking at the Chiefs obviously right behind the Niners. I'm

645
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: looking at it right now about six to one, Niners

646
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: five to one, Ravens nine to one, Bills ten to one,

647
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: and then the Bengals at fourteen to one, fifteen to one.

648
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: This is the same team that a season ago we

649
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: were talking about owning Patrick Mahomes, right, and they had

650
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: a defense with lou Anarumo that is clearly knows how

651
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: to match up with the Chiefs. It's the only defense

652
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: that has consistently been able to match up and confound

653
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and Joe Burrow is the quarterback who can

654
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: beat him. He does not blink in these and they

655
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: just had a down year. They all got hurt, and

656
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: there's such recency bias in the NFL that you kind

657
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: of forget about that, and all of a sudden, like

658
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: they're the team that's been dropping. That last play schedule

659
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: thing is a big deal, a really big deal when

660
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: you're playing when you're a team that could have won

661
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: the AFC North, which is the best division of football,

662
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you're playing the teams that

663
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: ended up the worst in football. That's a game changer

664
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: for me. They're going to be an interesting team to

665
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: make a lot of futures bets on as we get

666
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: closer to the year.

667
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it all works out as well, where like

668
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: you said, they match up really well against this Chiefs

669
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 2: team historically, like since Joe's coming to the league, he's

670
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: played him better than any other quarterback on football. And

671
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: you know, they're not scared of them. A lot of

672
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: teams in that division, especially the Conference AFC, they're scared

673
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: of that team, and this team is not. They have

674
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: the swagger for it. So yeah, the last play schedule chat,

675
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 2: like you said, it's a big deal when you get

676
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: to play New England and Tennessee rather than playing the

677
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: top tier teams. But I do think their odds chat

678
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: are low, lower than they should be just because of

679
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 2: their division, right, Like that's a They're in such a

680
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 2: hard division, that's why it is what it is. But

681
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 2: we saw these last couple of years. There was a

682
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: reason they were the first repeat team in forever in

683
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: this division. It's like they were really talented. We talked

684
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: last season, you need so much luck to win divisions

685
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: and football, right, just health is the biggest one, and

686
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: we saw it last year. There was no it was

687
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 2: all built in. The Bengals were a bad bet last

688
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 2: year just because their value was so high. You're exactly

689
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: right now now it's a nice by low spot, just

690
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: like the Rams were. Like both these teams played each

691
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 2: other in Super Bowl two years ago and last year

692
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: people left the Rams were dead, which was stupid, and

693
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: it feels like they're doing the same year with the Bengals.

694
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 2: So I'm in complete agreeens when they ever they opened

695
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 2: up the division odds. Finally, I'm definitely my first bets

696
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,959
Speaker 2: on MAKEU is the Bengals to win the North.

697
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the Bengals right now, and don't forget.

698
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: They beat the Seahawks, who at that time we're a

699
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: team that was on the make. They beat the Rams,

700
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: they beat the Bills, they beat the Niners, like they

701
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: barely lost to the Texans in a game they should

702
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: have won. They beat the Jags, they beat the Vikings,

703
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: they beat the Colts, like, come on.

704
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: No, they're a good team. And it's what we always

705
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: talk about. We're trying to buy a lot on teams

706
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: that people just aren't looking at anymore because they're not

707
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 2: the sexy team from last year. And that's what usually

708
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: people do, right They bet off what they remember happening

709
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: at the end of towards last season. So yeah, I

710
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: bet you buy September. This is probably down at twelve

711
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: to one.

712
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: Well, time to buy it now. Then it's not going

713
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: to get It's not going to get like longer. You know,

714
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: they're not going to go from fifteen to one to

715
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: twenty one. So if you like it, you might as

716
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: well buy it now. In fact, I'm going to today

717
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: exactly what I'm going to do. Last week we talked

718
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: a little bit about it. I feel like we're doing

719
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: exactly what I just said, which is all of a sudden,

720
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: we've convinced ourselves it's the Cincinnati Bengals are the Jaden

721
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: Daniels of the twenty twenty four NFL season, and we're

722
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: seeing something right now nobody else is seeing. We are

723
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: blind to any faults or any consequences. That's what we're doing.

724
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: I mean, pros have been talking about this. I think

725
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 2: a lot of pros. The first thing they look at

726
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: at what teams came in last place in their division. Honestly,

727
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: that's one of the first things I go to when

728
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 2: the regular season ends. It's like, how do we project

729
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 2: down and envision these teams next following season? Are we

730
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: getting good value? And you know, people remember I was

731
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 2: way too high on the Bears, but I was equally

732
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 2: way too high in the Rams, Like I was all

733
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: in on them just because I realized they were playing

734
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: a last place schedule and they had an incredible quarterback.

735
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: And we talk all the time of football, if you

736
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: get an easy schedule with the right quarterback's it really

737
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: is that simple sometimes, like it really is all about

738
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: the matchups, and that that's why the fourth place schedule

739
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 2: is such a big team because you're not playing against

740
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: these incredible stud quarterbacks. You're usually playing against journeymen or

741
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: first or second year qbs here. So we talk all

742
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 2: the time, what's the first things I look for that

743
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 2: it's the right there. I'm always looking for these teams

744
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 2: that came and fourth, that we know they have a

745
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 2: ton of talent, they just had a bunch of injuries

746
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 2: the year before. The Bengals jump right out. I mean,

747
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 2: rarely do I get to bet on a team that

748
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: came a fourth in the division that had a winning record.

749
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 2: This might be the first time ever. So yeah, definitely interesting.

750
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: We're saying we're buying loan a nine to eighteen.

751
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: It's almost unfair to call them the last place team,

752
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: to be honest, it really is. It's silly. Can any

753
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: of these running backs make a difference for anybody? Is

754
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: there any team right now that is a good running

755
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: game away, a consistent running game away from taking that

756
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: next step?

757
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I said, Houston would be great if they

758
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: got Barkley. But it's just we're not getting the McCaffrey

759
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: with you know, one of the greatest running back minds

760
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 2: in Shanahan. Like, it's just it's a devalued position. I

761
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 2: talk all the time about this that the smartest teams

762
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 2: who are ahead of the curve were the teams that

763
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: realized how devalued the running back position was and barely

764
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: put any money into the position. And those are the

765
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 2: teams that has really worked out for over the couple,

766
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: you know, ten to fifteen years. So I don't know,

767
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 2: chaed Like, I'm looking at these free agents and yeah,

768
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 2: they're all really talented, but you know, there's a couple

769
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 2: of guys come out of draft that are pretty good

770
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 2: as well, and you can pay them one fifth or

771
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 2: one one third of what these guys are going to

772
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: make top market. I mean, Barkley's gonna be out of

773
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: the sport how much he's going to ask for. So yeah,

774
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 2: if the team like Houston is all that extra money

775
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 2: laying around, I understand when they've gone and do it.

776
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: I just we just see a time and time again.

777
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: It's just there's so many talented guys out there you

778
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 2: really don't need to I mean, most are you know

779
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 2: who broke miami Is rushing touchdown record last year? You

780
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: could have got him for a couple of dollars. They

781
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: were trying to trade him before the season started. So

782
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: that's my issue. It's like there are front names that

783
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: all these guys have had excellent years, and no doubt

784
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: Barkley's still in his prime right now. He's still a

785
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: great running back. It's just my GM mindset and how

786
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 2: I manage money. I just would never pay him what

787
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: he's looking for. It's just not worth a ten any team.

788
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: But for any team he would be an up huge

789
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 2: upgrade too. Definitely Houston, like he's incredible out of the

790
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: back of what everything he does is so good. So yeah,

791
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 2: that's a fun idea. But no, no running backs even

792
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: like people are like, oh, don't you want the Eagles

793
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 2: to get Derrick Henry. He does nothing for him. My

794
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 2: offensive line can't block. The guy needs to get blockers

795
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: to get the legs moving. So yeah, this running back

796
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 2: classic really doesn't do much for me.

797
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: And even the teams that could potentially be looking for

798
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: a running back, say the Ravens right who had running

799
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: back by committee and don't.

800
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: Have no money.

801
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: They don't have the money, Cowboys don't have the money,

802
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: The Chargers don't have the money. Like teams that are

803
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: theoretically close have almost no cap space from less than

804
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: ten million to negative twenty five million on the Chargers. Like,

805
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: it's a really interesting spot for some of these guys.

806
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: They're not going to find a market that is hospitable

807
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 1: to paying them what they think they're worth.

808
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like and if we're playing mad and yeah, Barkley

809
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 2: to the Ravens is really fun, great idea. In real life,

810
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: it'd be really stupid for them. They've had one of

811
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: the best running back groups for years with guys like

812
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: the Gus bus Like Gus Edwards, they made him do

813
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: a good running back like they don't They're just a

814
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 2: team that doesn't really need to do that. So yeah,

815
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 2: the Ravens, they're about that to pay a bunch of

816
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: guys on their defensive side. They don't have the money

817
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 2: really be spending at their running back position. So yeah,

818
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: they're in a tough spot the Ravens at that Barkley

819
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: would be if they did it, would that would be

820
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: really fun him and Lamar sharing a backfield together. I

821
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: would love that, But money wise, I don't see how

822
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 2: they make it work.

823
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: By the way, maybe if the Ravens had given Gus

824
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: ed Was the ball two more times, they might have

825
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: advanced in the playoffs instead of going home early and

826
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: being disappointed and ruining Lamar Jackson's MVP season. And also

827
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: we would have won our Lamar Jackson over forty one

828
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: and a half rushing yards in that game.

829
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gudge. If they're paying Bartley fifteen million dollars

830
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 2: and he gets three touches in the AFC Championship game,

831
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 2: I think people would be losing their.

832
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: Minds, losing their minds. We were losing our minds when

833
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: Gus Edwards wasn't getting the ball a second time and

834
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: we had over forty and a half rushing yards or

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00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:44,000
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Speaker 1: we're talking a little bit about betting draft markets here.

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Speaker 1: We talked about Jayden Daniels at plus one fifty. Give

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Speaker 1: me your take right now I'm betting the draft and

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Speaker 1: how it's changed in recent years. Are there more markets,

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Speaker 1: are they more operators the stuff available earlier? Give me

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Speaker 1: your take on how it's all changed as betting has exploded.

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Speaker 2: Definitely gotten easier about on the draft because there's so

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00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: many more books taking money on the draft. But usually

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00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: you know, the only thing they're gonna let you bet

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Speaker 2: on in December, January, February, Like now is the quarterback position,

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Speaker 2: Like the first couple picks, there's a couple of quarterbacks though.

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Speaker 2: They're happy to take money on that stuff because people

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00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: like betting quarterbacks and it's fun. You know that year

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00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 2: we had with Kenny Pickett and all those guys, you know, Ritter, Like,

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00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: the books weren't taking anything on the draft, it felt

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Speaker 2: like at all until February, and that was because you know,

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Speaker 2: I think Aiden Hutchinson was the guy that was really

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Speaker 2: being bet to be the number one pick and yet

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Speaker 2: not even being the number one pick. So yeah, the

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00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: books just don't want a ton of exposure. Yeah, the draft,

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Speaker 2: not that I think it's ever going to die out,

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Speaker 2: but I always think will be what it is now,

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Speaker 2: which is they're just not going to take a lot

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00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: of bets. Like for me to get a ton of

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00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: money down, I had to bet almost every day at

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Speaker 2: multiple different books just to get a nice amount down

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Speaker 2: on the draft. So that's what I'll bet Now, I'll

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Speaker 2: bet rumors I'm here and try to get ahead of

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Speaker 2: the general public and the books without bringing too much

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00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: attention to myself. So you know, that's that's one of

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00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: the harder things to do at this time here. You

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Speaker 2: just don't want the book to know that you have

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Speaker 2: an edge and get caught in a bet. But yeah,

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00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 2: for right now, I can't really do much other than

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00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 2: betting the quarterbacks what we talked about. So, yeah, Daniels,

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00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 2: I've taken a position on him to be the number

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00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: two quarterback. Could have that on my face in a

893
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: week from now, where you know, Drake may test out

894
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 2: and he incredible in shorts. Teams can talk to themselves

895
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: into that stuff. So that's that's the fun thing about

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00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 2: this draft is I do think, you know, more and

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00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 2: more people are gonna start coming around on Daniels as

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00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 2: we get closer to the draft because the things I've

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00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: seen from Drake may like guys they talked to scout's

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00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 2: in the league, they think he has a slow release

901
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: and that he's got to change his release. That's a

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00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 2: big deal. Like those guys I know he's working with.

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00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: I believe Philip Rivers and a couple other guys right

904
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: now who have unique styles of throwing. Right, remember how

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00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers had that weird throw. Yeah, he had a quick,

906
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 2: gass release. Though, like it was just a along gate.

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00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 2: It took him a long time to get there, but

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00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: once he got his arm up, it was a quick release.

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00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: That's why they never made him change it. No way

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Speaker 2: in the NFL with a team ever allow another Philip Rivers.

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00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: No one had ever let someone to throw the ball

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00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 2: the way he threw it that style. It's all become

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00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 2: very robotic. So yeah, if he works with the guy

914
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 2: this offseason, they fix it before his Pro Day, or

915
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: him thrown the combine this week, he could easily lock

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00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: him into be the number two thing. But the Washington

917
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 2: I think I think they might. There's a path for them.

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00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 2: Fun in love with Daniels and that's why we've seen

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00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: this number come down so much. Jed. So, Yeah, this

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00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: this draft is really fun just because we do have

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00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: so many quarterbacks to talk about. Like you even like

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00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: the JJ McCarthy thing. He's a huge sleeper that the

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00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 2: Patriots could take him at number three and I wouldn't

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00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 2: all be that shocked just because people do love him.

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00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: He just doesn't have that many throws on tape. So

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Speaker 2: that's what makes these drafts so fun is when we

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00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 2: have quarterback drafts like this, like the worst drafts ever,

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00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 2: or when we're talking about Aden Hutchinson for two months

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Speaker 2: Jed So, I love this. I love breaking down film,

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Speaker 2: especially a class like this where you got guys who

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00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: have played, you know, fifty games in college, which is

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00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: very rare nowadays. It's just been really fun breaking all

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00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 2: these guys down.

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Speaker 1: How do we manage for the next couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: until free agency comes? Between now and then, what should

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00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: we be doing right now? What should people listening be

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00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: doing right now to take advantage? Are we betting rumors?

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00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: Is it small tastes? How do we manage these next

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00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: two weeks?

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Speaker 2: You can, like I said, combine is when we really

941
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: start getting ramped up here. Me personally, I will do

942
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 2: all the same things you guys can all do, which

943
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 2: is listen to all the different podcasts, listen to all

944
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 2: their draft people, you do trust, break things down, you

945
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: know ESPN. I'm not here at Badmouth, and I like

946
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 2: mel I really like Todd McShay, and Todd's moved on.

947
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: I believe he's doing stuff now with Ryan Rissillo. That's

948
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 2: a guy who I'm gonna be loyal to, and I'll

949
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: probably move with him. I will keep listening Todd McShay

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00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 2: because I do trust Todd mcshay's context. I think people

951
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: in media he is really good at what he does.

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00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 2: So that's something to be wary of of. There are

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00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 2: some people who are just storytellers and they're just having

954
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: fun in media talking about the draft, and there's other

955
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 2: guys who really do put in the legwork, make the calls,

956
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 2: and they're finding out what these teams are gonna do.

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00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: That is a big advantage. So yeah, for everyone, I

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00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 2: just say be a sponge and if you're addicted to

959
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 2: this stuff, like I love the draft and all the

960
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 2: numbers and stuff, just soak it all in and then

961
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: at the end of the day you are forming your

962
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 2: own opinion. Right, I'm not always gonna be right. I

963
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 2: was way wrong on my opinion on Bryce Young. I

964
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: just never saw him being the first pick overall. That

965
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 2: was just me having a different view of clearly the

966
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: owner of the Carolina Panthers. So that's something always be

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00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 2: wary of of. Just because you think Drake may is

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00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: by far the best court there is a better quarterback

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00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 2: than Daniels, doesn't mean the Washington A lot of other

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00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 2: scouts like myself are going to agree with that. So

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00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: that is something where you can't just be so defined

972
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 2: in your own opinion. Something I regret from last year

973
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,479
Speaker 2: I which I wasn't so dug in on my Bryce

974
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: Young opinion. I should have been more flexible. So this year,

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00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 2: I do love Daniels, but it's not so much I'm indifferent.

976
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 2: If they take May great if they take Daniels. I

977
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 2: don't think Washington can make a wrong decision here, but

978
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 2: in five years from now, we'll judge them as if

979
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,479
Speaker 2: they did make a wrong decision. That's that's the tough part.

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00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: So when we were at the Super Bowl, there was

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00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: a dinner one and I was like, I don't know,

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00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty people and it was very It

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00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: was a small room, like it was an intimate thing,

984
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: and David Tepper happened to be there, and you know,

985
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: I was within the way the crowd was set up.

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00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 1: You could easily go up to anybody, talk to anybody

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00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: at any time. It was a lot of floating and

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00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: like my table happened to be one table over from his,

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00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: And all I want to do is say grace. You know, really,

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00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: that's that's what you're taking your franchise on. I didn't

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00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: do it. I didn't feel like the time now.

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00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 2: With a cycle like that, he would have probably grabbed

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Speaker 2: you by the neck in front of everyone, the guys exactly.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to make a scene, yeah, Simon, I

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00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: was just happy to be there. I didn't want to

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Speaker 1: be the guy getting kicked out and not came invited again.

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